What brand of computer are you using? And what about your OS(s)?
I myself am on an emachines (AKA Gateway), running XP Home Edition.
(BTW, not sure if this should be moved to the games forum...sorry if I'm wrong...)
Two computers run WinXP, one runs Win2k. I also run Linux (Ubuntu 7.04) on my main computer.
I built them myself, so they're no particular brand.
Got two Amigas which run AmigaOS3.1.
Main computer (Gateway) running Ubuntu 6.06 and my backup (Compaq) is running Win2k.
I only have my acer laptop (all I need) running Ubuntu edgy 6.10
Woohoo! Bless you Bella for creating such a thread! ^v^
Lesse....
Primary: Acer AMD 64-bit X2 desktop with dual-boot Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 (soon to be Feisty Fawn) and Windows XPMCE. Also use it to test-bed for stable distros, like Sabayon.
Secondary: Old HP I rescued from being trashed, w/1.4ghz processor, 512MB RAM (originally 256) and 8GB hard drive (actually an older one I had lying around, after the original HD died). Used to run SUSELinux, then Xubuntu for a while, now runs eComStation 1.2 and is also a test bed for unstable OSes (such as AROS).
Tertiary: my old HP ze1210 laptop, still with Windows XP SP1 though occasionally will use Puppy Linux. Rarely carry it around anymore, so now used as the dining room terminal and guest computer.
Quadirary(sp?): my old and immortal VPR Matrix, still running Windows XP SP1 for legacy purposes. Used to be an active guest computer, especially for the kids or any of my friends who like RTSes. Now pretty much displaced by the Wii as far as gaming is concerned. Recently updated its graphics card to keep it a little up to speed with the latest games. -v-
Um.... 5thiary?: Lenovo laptop from work is extaordinarily fast (and quiet), but must run an ultra-draconian version of Windows XP SP2. Normally wouldn't list it here, but I use it at home and abroad extensively.
If Apple makes my Tablet Mac, then we'll have six. -v-
But despite all this.....
QuoteTwo computers run WinXP, one runs Win2k. I also run Linux (Ubuntu 6.06) on my main computer.
I built them myself, so they're no particular brand.
Oh, and my two Amigas run AmigaOS 3.1.
There just is no comparison to a man who builds his own computer AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND....
...has two Miggies.
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We're talking serious demi-god of computing here. ^___^
BTW, my emachines is a laptop...although, with it's speed, memory, features...and weight...I consider it a 7-pound desktop XD Also, I have an old win98 Compaq desktop (that isn't running but I plan to fix up), and my family's HP laptop (that I do a lot of work on), running XP.
I currently run a Compaq desktop with (pirated) Windows XP SP2 as only OS. That's soon to be changed, though, as I'm giving the thing a serious upgrade (or rebuild, haven't decided yet), an all-inclusive with HDD, motherboard, memory, processor and graphics card; and also since Ubuntu is just about to release Feisty Fawn.
current specs:
Intel Pentium 4 2.53 ghz, 768 mb RAM, total of 160 gb HDD space, 256 mb graphics.
I have two computers in my room
the main computer that i use is a Windows-Xp (hehehe XD)
the second computer have a Windows 2k.
sometimes if I think about it, that i really have my " Anime 3D Live Creator Device"(like in my manga) would be cool !
I could revive Xp-tan from my PC! XD (and many other characters!)
for example: Suigintou, Suiseiseki, Lelouch, Euphemia (before Lelouch use the geass), C.C, Alucard, Alexander Anderson, Creazy Major, etc etc.
My main comp is my mac which is running, fairly obviously, OSX.
My old comp, which I still occasionally fire up for windows related stuff, is a midrange Toshiba laptop with decent processing and memory but a prohibitively small hard drive (for my uses anyway). It runs on XP and works great as a backup comp :D
Oooh! Nifty Thread!
Let's see...
Primary: Mac Mini
1.83GHz Intel Core Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM
SuperDrive 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Dual Boot between OS X 10.4.9 and Xubuntu 6.10
Secondary: Power Mac
533 MHz Dual PPC
1.5 GB 133 DDR SDRAM
Sony CD-RW CRX140E
Multi-boot [OS X Server 10.4.9, Ubuntu Server 6.10, Fedora 6]
Tertiary: Same as Secondary, minus the Dual Processors. These two are my home/testing servers ^__^
Quaternary: Dell Latitude CPi
300 MHz Intel Pentium II
128 MB RAM
Dell 24X CD-ROM module
Windows 2000 SP 4
Used for work (Since I can't find an Open-source solution for Lotus Approach T_T)
Quinary: AmbrA SU000081
33MHz Intel 486
8 KB RAM
Teac FD-55gfr 5.25in Floppy Drive
Compaq 3.5 in Floppy Drive
Windows 3.1 and a dysfunctional OS/2 2.01 HD
Mostly just for fun ^-^
And, I guess I can count my new work server, since I will be setting it up at home ^o^
Senary: Mac Pro
Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
16GB DDR2 SDRAM
SuperDrive 16x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Quad-channel 4Gb Fibre Channel PCI Express card
Mac OS X Server 10.4.9 (Obviously ^^)
Septenary: All the other old boxes I have lying around, most of which are too old to run the new OS's ^^'
Oooooooooooooooooooh.......... so close.............. -v-
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All that inredible wealth of computing power is remarkable....!
But if only you had at least one Amiga-sama, or comparable Amigoid (MorphOS or AROS), then you would've had a chance at trouncing the heavyweight champion, AmigaBob. -.-
But keep at it,... you'll get there someday. You're definitely off to a good start with all those Linuces and Macs and that one old OS/2. ^___^
Oh, and "Quaternary" and "Quinary', eh? 'v'
*takes down notes*
And then you wonder why I wonder why you self-depracate. -.-
Meh, it's not all that much, seeing as I don't even own the flagship Mac, but it suits my purposes (and then some, most of the time)
I think my dad once owned an Amiga, for testing purposes. Unfortunately, I wasn't allowed to use it, and I think he sold it soon afterwards.
Still, I wish I did have at least one...
Yeah, I wish that OS/2 disk would work, but it really hates my audio card/CD drive combo. "Preview '96" wasn't exactly the most stable version, either ^^'
QuoteOh, and "Quaternary" and "Quinary', eh? 'v'
*takes down notes*
And then you wonder why I wonder why you self-depracate. -.-
Absolutely. When one flagrantly flaunts a trivial point, it may often be assumed that one is merely compensating for lack of useful knowledge.
Let me look here, since I do a bit of Virtualization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualization) as a side hobby using VMware Workstation.
Main (Host) Computer: Dell XPS running on Windows XP Professional
Guest OSes: Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me (Luckly it did not crash inside VMware Workstation), and Windows 2000
Running via DOSbox: Windows 3.1 (with Calmira II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calmira))
On reserved/Not installed: Kubuntu (I'm supprised they dont have a Kubuntu-tan.)
Primary:
2 GHz AMD 64, 512 MB RAM, OS: Linux (Gentoo), The HURD, Syllable from live CD
Secondary:
450 MHz AMD K6 II, 256 MB RAM, OS: SuSE Linux, Plan 9 (planned)
Tertiary:
4.77 MHz Intel 8086(???), 1 MB RAM, OS: MS DOS
Desktop:
CPU: Intel Celeron 2,80 ghz
GPU: Geforce 6600 256 mb ram
RAM: 1536 mb
HDD1: 250 gb (2 partitions (1: 20 gb, 2: 230 gb)) IDE
HDD2: 60 gb IDE
HDD3: (planned) at least 100 gb IDE
OS: XP Pro SP2 and (planned) Ubuntu 7.04
Screen: ViewSonic 21" LCD
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Laptop:
HP Pavillion dv60000
CPU: AMD Turion 64 x2 2,7 ghz
GPU: Geforce 7000 mobile 128 mb ram
RAM: 1024 mb
HDD: 100 gb (3 partitions (HP standard partition table)) SATA
OS: XP MCE 2005 (I think, or was it 2006?)
Screen 15,4" tft
A rather pitiful PC compared to all of yours, no particular brand:
CPU: Intel Core Duo 2.80 Ghz
GPU: GeForce 5500 256mb
RAM: 756 mb
HDD: One 80gb SATA with two partitions, and another 160gb.
OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2
Display: 17" CRT
Uhh... My main computer is a 400 MHz PowerMacG3 with 256 MB of RAM, 2 hard drives, one with about 2.5 GB and the other inexplicably ranges from 700 MB to zero KB! (also sometimes X11, which is needed to run Inkscape, acts strangely.) Runs Mac OS 10.3.9 and 9.2.2
But I also sometimes use my dad's Mac Mini (G4 processor, 1.42 GHz, I think. Runs 10.4 and I think has 512 MB RAM and a 160 GB hard drive). This (and my brother's PowerMacG4) is/are the only computer(s) in the house that act(s) normally.
But sometimes use my mom's PC (it's some sort of Dell running XP Home)
I also have a Powerbook 1400cs with a Power PC 603e processor @ 117 MHz, running OS 8.1 and has a battery life of 15 minutes and the CD drive inexplicably stopped working altogether and also have a Powerbook 540c with a 68040LC processor @ 33 MHz running System 7.5 but sadly it is falling apart and barely works :(
Quote from: "Laevatein"A rather pitiful PC compared to all of yours, no particular brand:
CPU: Intel Core Duo 2.80 Ghz
GPU: GeForce 5500 256mb
RAM: 756 mb
HDD: One 80gb SATA with two partitions, and another 160gb.
OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2
Display: 17" CRT
Better than mine! Well, except for the inferior OS :p
QuoteUhh... My main computer is a 400 MHz PowerMacG3 with 256 MB of RAM, 2 hard drives, one with about 2.5 GB and the other inexplicably ranges from 700 MB to zero KB! (also sometimes X11, which is needed to run Inkscape, acts strangely.) Runs Mac OS 10.3.9 and 9.2.2
But I also sometimes use my dad's Mac Mini (G4 processor, 1.42 GHz, I think. Runs 10.4 and I think has 512 MB RAM and a 160 GB hard drive). This (and my brother's PowerMacG4) is/are the only computer(s) in the house that act(s) normally.
But sometimes use my mom's PC (it's some sort of Dell running XP Home)
I also have a Powerbook 1400cs with a Power PC 603e processor @ 117 MHz, running OS 8.1 and has a battery life of 15 minutes and the CD drive inexplicably stopped working altogether and also have a Powerbook 540c with a 68040LC processor @ 33 MHz running System 7.5 but sadly it is falling apart and barely works
Oooh-hoohoo.... spare PowerPC's aplenty.... ^.^
You know, you could probably test out MorphOS-tan for me.... ^v^
*squeals with delight* ^.^
hehe ok heres the long story....
CPU:Atholon 64 X2 4800+ Dulecore 2.6
GPU: x1900CF edition & X1900xTx (crossfired)
Ram: 4gigs (why do i need so much.....oh yeah 3d graphics editing...)
HDD:umm....lots, boot off of raid 0 150raptors (300 gigs) with 5 other HDDs to total over 2 terrabites of space most of it filled with programs and anime......
OS: Triboot-Windows XP Corporate SP2, Ubuntu 6.06, and Win 98 for my older games lol thinking of adding OSX to that but dont really need it since i already have all the adobe stuff..... oh well....
Display: 26" Widescreen 720i HDTV (yes this is my tv as well)
Raid 0?!?! Someone likes living dangerously!
so is this thread like.. compairing e-penis size or what?
My PCs are crap by todays standards, so it doesn't end up being very long. ;137
Having the Amigas helps quite a bit tho. :smoke:
Quote from: "Kami-Tux"Raid 0?!?! Someone likes living dangerously!
raid 0 isnt dangerous. not with the up to date bios, its actually faster and more reliable than raid 5
Raid 0 has a risk which is n times higher than one hard disk where n is the amount of hrddisks in the raid-array.
Quoteraid 0 isnt dangerous. not with the up to date bios, its actually faster and more reliable than raid 5
Faster? Absolutely. More Reliable? Umm... not really. Because RAID 0 utilizes no redundancy, it has no fault tolerance (unless, of course, you are some sort of data recovery specialist). Failure of any drive results in loss of all data. If you're not backing up frequently, you really must not care for that data! ^^'
Quoteso is this thread like.. compairing e-penis size or what?
QuoteMy PCs are crap by todays standards, so it doesn't end up being very long.
Having the Amigas helps quite a bit tho.
Damn straight!! ^v^
If the Captain's foolishness is true, then AmigaBob,... for the sole fact of having two Miggies at home,... is practically a sex GAWD!! ^v^
So all you scrubs step aside... sex god coming through.... no autographs please..... -v-
*starts shoving posters to make way for AmigaBob*
BTW, don't remember what Raid is in this context, so I'll just politely nod my head. ^^'
RAID - Redundant Array of Inexpensive Drives
Basically uses software or hardware to treat multiple drive as one. it can be used to increase data integrity, fault-tolerance, throughput and/or capacity.
I only know because I use RAID 0+1 for my webserver ^^'
Quotef the Captain's foolishness is true, then AmigaBob,... for the sole fact of having two Miggies at home,... is practically a sex GAWD!! ^v^
Well at least we know he can please the fanpigs with it.
I don't like e-Penis comparisms... I always finish rather low: a slow-ish PC (too few RAM!), a crappy connection and normally, I am not even torrenting stuff.
o_o what.. did you want to have a large e-penis?
I would like to brag about something PC related (or at least not need to restart inkscape regularily during drawing because it doesn't free all malloced memory). I know the derogative term sounds awkward for a Tux but well... that is the fault of the language! :p
It's not about how good your PC is, it's what you use it for... Or at least that's what they tell ya. ;144
Main computer is running is a Vaio and the OS is an XP pro... I think.
I upgraded into Ubuntu Feisty Fawn (7.04) a few days ago, everything is so much shinier now. I love it!
Wow! A lot of people here are running Ubuntu! I would consider trying it if I wasn't so cozy with all of my programs, etc, on XP...
Well, dual-buuto is alwayssu an optionssu... -w-
More than 20 computers here...
Athlon 2500 FSB 400
Laptop Acer Aspire 3003
Celeron 600
Pegasos PPC G3 600
Amiga 4000 (Motorola 68040 25 MHz)
Pentium 200 MMX (the one I use to talk with you folks...)
A 1200 (+ another broken) with Motorola 68EC020 at 14 MHz
2 x A2000 with Motorola 68000 at 7Mhz
A 500 (+ another broken, same CPU as A2000)
Laptop Amstrad with 80286
2 x C64 (6510 -or it was 6502) at 1 MHz
C64 Executive
2 x VIC20
HP Pentium 160 Mhz found in trash
2 x 80486 DX2 66 (one mine + another found in trash)
And other 7 computers also found in trash ranging from 80486 to Pentium III
+ some spare motherboards...
o_o Over 20! Do you use them all?
When I have some time...
I collect them... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...
And I thought that one was enough.
The more, the merrier!
You can never have to many computers... or Operating Systems. I have 3 computers (with me at college and 1 more at home).
Comp one
Named: Sakura
made: myself
Processor: Athlon XP 2200+
Ram: 1 gig
Graphics: eVGA GeForce 5700 Ultra
HDD: 250gig Samsung
OSes: Ubuntu 7.04, SourceMage, Lunar-Linux and LFS
Comp two (laptop 1)
Named: Aoi
made by: Cyberpower (don't by from them)
Processor: Athlon 64 3000+
Ram: 1 gig corsair
Graphics: ATI Radeon 9600 (according to lspci)
HDD: 60gig
OSes: Ubuntu 7.04, Fedora 7, Windows XP
Comp 3 (laptop 3)
made by: Dell (Latitiude LS)
Processor: Pentium 2 400mhz
Ram: 128mb
HDD: about 5gig
OS: Debian 4.0
WOW! Raffaele, you have a collection!
And I thought I was doing well with my three...
QuoteWow! A lot of people here are running Ubuntu! I would consider trying it if I wasn't so cozy with all of my programs, etc, on XP...
Yep, and tally up another Ubuntu-based disto on the list! ^v^
As an update to my collection, I've stripped my laptop of XP (it wasn't being used much by guests anymore, thanks to the Wii) and installed Minty-fresh Linux on it (actually name is "Linux Mint"). The OS is so beautiful, it's become my new darling-child. ^v^
Must.... convert..... more...... machines. XvX
Oh yes, and naturally Raffaele-san has Miggies galore, plus some VICchans, PANchans, and of course that beautiful Pegasos running MOSchan, and I'm sure one of his x86's is running AROS-chan.
Don't have the heart to strip AmigaBob of his title, so I'll just have the two share the title. ^_____^
BTW, Alpha-Cluster requires a definitive Honorable Mention! ^.^
*salutes fellow Linux enthusiast*
Nope...
No AROS installed...
I run it from Live CD...
Also i left only two installed Linux OS. Both are on my Celeron 600...
I just prefer to run Knoppix Linux from Live CD...
Next time I will use memory sticks that gain more speed than a CD...
And also I forgot to mention I have also an Intellevision console.
QuoteYep, and tally up another Ubuntu-based disto on the list! ^v^
Linux Mint...nice.... ;010
I would like to point out my stats on Sakura change weekly or so and so its normally K/Ubuntu and then 3-4 other random distros.
I *might* try running a somewhat small, easy distro on my old Win98...if...it still runs XD
My Machine
Name: Alex
Manufacturer: Dell
Model: OptilPlex GX260
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 1.8 GHz
RAM 256MB (Plus 2GB of VRAM)
OS: Windows XP SP2
New Machine
Manufacturer: Yamaha
Model: CX5M
Processor: Zilog Z80A
RAM: 32 kb (up to 64 kb)(plus 16K VRAM
OS: MSX-DOS
Cool! Another named system. Mine is Shadows K8 (pronounced like Kate), which is actually the model name it came with, oh well. My dad's we simply call the D.Y. (not so long story...look at the HP symbol upside-down...) Sometimes I call it Pokey, though XD
Mine are also named. Jenjitux is my primary one, Miranda or slowtux is the name for my slow one and Francesco the name for my historic one.
Hehe...my computer's just named NeoN-ALPHA...and i think i'm gonna name the new building one NeoN-DELTA, skipping BETA since that's my iPod...^_^
I like to keep things slightly systematical, i guess
Oh! CPU Names I forgot to include those.
The Mac mini is named Sazaki
The first Power Mac is named NERV, plus it's disks are Melchior, Balthazar and Casper ^^'
The second Power Mac is named Pyrrho (Points for whomever can guess what problems I've been having with it ^-^)
The Laptop is "Da Lappy" (For obvious reasons ^__^)
The AmbrA is Tama-chan (long story behind that one ^^')
And... I don't think I'll start into my old mac lab, as most of them were named on a whim by a friend ^^'
My Tower is named Minawa,
Laptop is named Nichole (bouns points for anyone that gets that refereence)
My PSP is called Chachamaru
and mye DS is named Chachazero
QuoteThe second Power Mac is named Pyrrho (Points for whomever can guess what problems I've been having with it ^-^)
If it was a laptop, I'd say fire (Sounds like pyro to me...)
Hah!
*stands proudly*
I do proclaim that MY computers have VERY original names! ^___^
Kubuntu machine: Kubuntu-tan
eComstation machine: eComstation-tan
Linux Mint machine: Mint-tan
XP machine: Saseko
XP-running Work Laptop: Knoppix bait
Yep yep yep... *sighs* I'm good..... -v-
I presume i have the permission to summon crossover sighs of Kyon in this thread? If so...
Kyon sighs at this.
...
Just kidding! Simple is good, deshou?
Well since were talking about computer names I think that I should say that my computer is name 'Gummi'. Keep it simple! As Nejin said.
Case:
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Name: EPICCOMP1 (network name)
OS: Win XP Pro w/ Service Pack 2
PSU: 600W Power-Up
Motherboard:EVGA nForce 680i SLI A1
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E6700 @ 2.67 GHz
RAM: 2 GB Corsair PC 6400 (DDR2 800 MHz)
HDD: 320GB Seagate 7600 RPM (SATA)
Sound: SB X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Edition
GPU: BFG GeForce 8800 GTS OC w/ 640MB GDDR3 VRAM (Factory overclocked: 550 MHz GPU, 1600MHz VRAM)
Haels! That compy's not epic for nothing...Busty! -w-
Acer brand laptop with winXP
Let me save this laptop's soul! *waddles to it, installation-CD in wings* :)
Forget the laptop and come save my Acer Desktop. Having it 64-bit is a pain in the rear, and I think it comes with a very cheap NIC cause it has trouble accessing a network in any OS. @o@
(ordered an Intel ethernet card to see if it makes a difference)
Oh, and planning to shrink it's XPME partition even further, since I want to squeeze in MEPIS 64-bit for testing against Kubuntu. ^__^
*squaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwk* *waddles to the laptop and installs furiously to save the computer's soul*
Traitor,... -v-
All for that, I'm gonna unleash the most annoying thing you can say to a Linux user.... -.-
[whining] I'M GONNA GO BACK TO WINDOZE!!!!! ^0^
*offers wad of cash and prison shackles to M$*
...Works every time. -v-
*/me now saves the soul of C-Chan's computer as well...* I hoped you waddled over to the Linux thread and gave more info, you know...
It does not matter what OS you are using...
(http://sos-dan.com/img/src/1147381991407.jpg)
*nod nod*
*starry eyed*
Never mind, Oh Great Penguin God.... ^___^
*heaves*
I'M GONNA GO BACK TO COMMODORE!!!!! ^V^
*chases after NejinOniwa*
Self Built Desktop with XP Pro SP2.
Quote from: "C-Chan"*starry eyed*
Never mind, Oh Great Penguin God.... ^___^
*heaves*
I'M GONNA GO BACK TO COMMODORE!!!!! ^V^
*chases after NejinOniwa*
Amiga has no O(1)-scheduler, has it?
Ummm,....... *hogs make-believe Amiga protectively*
...Probably not... at least not the older ones.... ¬¬'
But..... um,........ uh............ ano......... <_< >_>
...
OH RIGHT! @o@
*stands proudly*
But at least WE have our own SCO GROUP now! ^___^
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39362
Yep yep yep.... Try not to be too jealous.... ^.^
...
(FYI, if anything needs it's soul saved from proprietary restrictions, its AmigaOS.... -.-)
Ehem... 98se in a multi-changued PC from I don't remember what place (Original HDD and CD-burner was burned -Is true T.T, We at house loose a lot of data-), I not remember all features but is still very powerful ^.^...
And XP home SP1 running an Acer (This is my favorite ^o^, because I re-configure a lot of system -Is partially japanese ^x^'-)...
mine's some custom made NOTEBOOK
brand: unknown
CPU: Intel Celeron 2GHz
GPU: ATI RADEON 9600
RAM: 512mb
HDD: 80Gb SATA, external:250GB
OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2
Alienware
Intel Core 2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66 GHZ
nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX
AEGA PhysX AG 1011 Physics Processor
1 GB RAM
500 GB HDD
Windows XP Media Center Edition, Service Pack 2
i am running a Sony VIAO laptop with Windows XP Home
We have had good times ... bad times ... loving times ... but one day i will save my money and replace you ...
With what, something with that horrendous Vista on it? o_o
Too bad it's a lappy, otherwise you could've just upgraded it successively and still keep yo' pervy yaoi-loving OS in place. For the moment i think you'd better stay low and keep the one ya have until glorious Kubuntu lappies for sale! ^-^
Well I hear Dell is already selling 'glorious' unbuntu laptops.
I didn't know they sold laptops too...
Oh well then ^^
You learn something new everyday huh.
No wai!
What cave have you been living in, Neji-san? 'v'
Oh right,... sorry,... Dell seems to only be limiting these sales to the States for the time being, apart from advertising it in a hole-in-the-wall webpage on their site, so it's really no surprise you haven't heard of it. ^^'
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Plus other shady things going on with their Linux deal (like being indecisive about tech support and only making the PCs cost $50USD less than Windows machines)....
I'm still suspicious that they're setting up this deal to fail. The only thing that could save us is if some other known manufacturer sells Linux machines cheaper (and hopefully better built).
Maybe that's why they're so afraid of the emerging Chinese computer manufacturers, as they might have the means to manufacture $200 Linux laptops with more than enough bells and whistles to raise eyebrows. -v-'
I'm not living in a cave! I just thought they were desktop only...
Fufu,... surprisingly, Dell didn't limit Linux to desktops only, although if they did then that would really have been sabotage. -v-
Also, in case you want a sorta-cheap laptop running preinstalled Linux from a misc. vendor:
http://store.madtux.org/index.php?cPath=57
Cheapest way to do it, though, is to just get any old laptop, and simply refurbish it to run Linux. ^^
The day someone makes a Flash Linux Laptop for cheap (something like the OLPC laptop, but more modern) is the day the OS will really take off, I bet. ^__^
My friend bought one of them really expensive Dell XPS desktop replacement laptops some time back. He paid like the equivalent of $2500 for it, but he hardly ever uses it. His 2 year old kid likes to play with it, meaning it's pretty beat up now. :p
I feel kinda a sorry for your friend and the computer.
Poor computer! I fear it even uses an unfree OS :(
Yes! Sins must be corrected as soon as possible!
Gentoo to the rescue!
YEAH! Wait what! Bah, whatever floats your boat
well. in Gentoo you can format partitions fastest because you do not need to waddle through an installer. so you need Gentoo if you assume he'll take the laptop out of your wings.
Well if he's more of an eyecandy buff, would you still recommend at least Gentoo-based Sabayon? ^___^'
http://www.sabayonlinux.org/
That one has an installer?!?! HERESY!
Seriously, I never tried it. I wouldn't use it because it contains unfree software but if you do not mind that, it is surely neat.
Well now that you mention it, I wouldn't recommend it either. ^^'
Because of said non-free software, the installer automatically loads (without an obvious option to do otherwise) ATI's proprietary fglrx driver during the LiveDVD session, which on my AMD64 computer has the nasty habit of blanking the screen and disabling keyboard support (so no CTRL-ALT-F1 or CTRL-ALT-DEL).
Hence I've yet to see Sabayon's GOBS of eyecandy yet, and by now I'm too busy with other distros to care.... Curse you ATI and your schizophrenic Linux support,.... -v-
Added after 1 minutes:
Oh, and touching back on the concept of cheap flash laptops....
TADA...!!! ^v^
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9292516116.html
The future is coming...! ^___^
YATTAI! Finally! I think we have a prophet amongst us...
My home has two computers. The family computer is a 98SE, which is the only computer with Internet and hardly functions anymore, and my personal computer is an XP MCE.
*protecticly covers his dell XPS M1710 special edition red* dont listen to them.. the kid cant get you baby... shushh...
He talks to his... computer? How strange is that.
Na, Violin-kun?
Well, I like to talk to the hand.
Anyhoo... The guy doesn't seem to mind spending a fortune on something and then just grow tired of it right afterwards. He just bought and sold his second car this past year.
Been meaning to get a cheap laptop of my own, just gotta find one that has the best specs for the least moolah.
In that case you should check out Acer laptops. They're way cheap compared to specs.
QuoteBeen meaning to get a cheap laptop of my own, just gotta find one that has the best specs for the least moolah.
I'd say HP. They're reasonably priced, well equipped, and have very good hardware. DY, my family's HP laptop, is two years old and hasn't had even ONE problem hardware (or software)-wise. Whereas K8, my eMachines, had gone though an A/C adapter, motherboad, and a set of hinges before the age of two!
My friend also has an HP laptop, a higher-end one w/ a built in camera (a la Mac XD), media center software, BluRay DVD player, it's very thin and light, and he loves it.
The only thing I dislike about HP is their software suite, they often ship TONS of game and program trials...but I've only seen lots of trial software on desktop models, for some reason...so with a laptop, you wouldn't have much of a problem (not that it's much of a problem, just have to do a lot of deleting).
Yep, buying from the big computer manufacturers will inevitably invite a lot of initial crapware into your system, but it's certainly nothing that can't be purged. Certainly not a problem for a Miggy user, who knows the meaning of the word "persistence" more than any other computer owner. ^___^
I hate to offer a plug for HP given I have other reasons for not liking them,... but admittedly, my own HP laptop is running on 5 years now and is still alive and well.
The only flukes have been a dead battery (which I've replaced), a CD/DVD drive that only wants to read when it wants to (not as important in today's world of LAN and USB sticks) and a squeamishness for memory upgrades past 512MB (a problem with that particular model range apparently).
There was a terrible case of inoperable keys under XP (5,7,9,0,.-,[ and others), but interestingly-enough this has alleviated tremendously after installing PCLinuxOS. ^^
In any event, that's my plug for those "old-school" laptops. -v-
Going forward, I will not recommend anything else but this bold new direction.... ^.^
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/114773/asus-stuns-computex-with-100-laptop.html
I believe the proper wording here should be "Flash-based storage, FTW!". ^v^
I'm using Toshiba Sattelite A-15....old but reliable Laptop.
It have Intel Pentium 4 M 2,2 Mhz, 512 MB of RAM, and it runs more faster than my friend's new Acer Laptop (well, mine have higher RAM and Processor clock though).
BUt since its age is more than 4 years....it possess several problem....nearly dead battery, high temperature when using heavy programs, and the DVD-Rom now only able to read CD.
BUt i still love my laptop....and i have no plan to replace it until it really die.....
Hmm...fo OS, i'm using Windows XP Professional Sp1....Great OS but really memory consumig...it consume almost half of my RAM when active....
Yah allssu! We just got back our old media compy from the shop - the HDD had burst up in flames, literally, so it had to be fixed for a while. Well, now it's back and we've installed Moseko on it, so it'll be perfect for goin' round with our TV. It's got kartloads of disk space too so we won't be running out of that for a while... ^-^
There's also my Compaq Presario, circa 1998, running Windows 98, and on liveCD, Puppy Linux, and sometimes Zenwalk.
Aa sou,... so my Gateway isn't older than your Compaq,... but just for the sake of being Gateway (and a low profile one at that), it shaves off 3 years from its operational status.
BTW, Redrackham, nice to see you around these neck of the woods. ^^
@C-Chan
Well....i've gone MIA for several month because i'm busy with laboratory practicing and several accident....
And now, i'm back.....
Several... aCcIdEnTs....? O__o
Sounds brutal, but at least happy your back. ^^
@C-chan
Nah...it not as brutal as you think.
Only one motorcycle accident and one lab accident (the lab accident took me one month to heal my right palm.....)......-__-
Anyway.....i actually a little confused, my laptop seems to be able to play A LOT OF media file type (with the help of codecs ).....but my friend's computer can't play several media file type even with the same codec pack as i have.....
Just tell'im ta dl VLC and all will be finessu. -w-
Oh and also, labs are dangeroussu ssuyou, kiotsukenasaissune -w-
Im on Windows XP Home on 2 computers now, but my main one used to be Pro untill the upgrade and offical version of Windows :-P
I am also using XP on my laptop which im posting from now in the middle of our town centre (stolen wireless signal).
I also use the Knoppix version of Linux for diagnostics and other stuff with the computer because it is bootable from a CD and reads all sorts of formats like NTFS, FAT32 and even has USB support...
Quote from: "Alex-kun"(stolen wireless signal)
HAH! Now THAT's some kaizoku spirit for you, alex-kun! Gokurou!
Wow! Long time no see! ^__^
Kudos to your use of Knoppix -- best rescue CD in existence..... -v-
(http://www.205lan.com/catalog/images/knoppix-logo.png.gif)
Aissu! Just a most temporary thing, but I'm currently using a tiny lil' CE-tan HTC ppc, and connecting straight from my summer villa in the middle of nowhere. Subarashii-ssu, and the beach is like OVERsized with some straight half a mile or something. *brag*
Sore ja! ^_^ *scurry off to beachland*
Oooh,... don't forget to take picturessu. ^___^
(including the CE handheldssu) -v-
I have a rather old system (about *gasp!* 4 years...) An E-machines I got for under $300 with a Celeron D processor. It has had one hard drive crash, which was a bear, but their tech support's good. I did upgrade the memory to 512 MB, and will do it again to 2 gig soon. I also added another 80 gig hard drive, identical to the one that came with it. The master drive loads Ubuntu 7.04 in order to have GRUB take all the dual-boot stuff withotu messing with the Windows bootloader, and the slave drive runs Windows XP, with a lot of freeware (Comodo Firewall, AVG anti-virus, Defender, etc.). XP, mercifully, has no idea the Linux drive even exists, so she hasn't had a nervous breakdown over my betrayal yet. If XP-Tan ever finds out her drive has been moved to 'slave' status in favor of an Open-source, I expect anime-tears.
My computer's cheap, and keeps getting more stuff stuck in and on it but it WORKS, and can read just about any file type there is except Mac, so I'm not complaining. My first computer was a Coleco ADAM. The one that when you first booted, started in TYPEWRITER mode. Proprietary tape-type drive that you couldn't find anywhere. Loudest Daisy Wheel printer ever made.
And I've still got it in the workshop somewhere.
4 years old?!! @o@
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ;^V^;
Well if you owned an Adam it can't be youth talking (my first computer was an old Atari 8-bit, btw), so I reckon that's just pure old-fashioned sarcasm directed at people who think "two weeks ago" is ancient history. ^___^
Currently nursing an 8-year old Gateway back to full health, and Bella-san is doing the same for a 10-year old Compaq. -v-
And then that's not mentioning the true hardcore computer collectors, like the grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat AmigaBob who still maintains and uses two darling Miggies (aka, "Amiga" computers), bless his heart. ^___^
Then there's Raffaele-san who maintains roughly 25 computers -- half of which date from the 80's -- plus a kickass Pegasos system running the legendary MorphOS (known as "MOSchan" as endearment). ^.^
Admin Tsubashi-san still has an old Macintosh somewhere, as well as a 1st generation OS/2 machine (before the Warp years), and Admin Pitkin-san managed to rescue two PAN-chans (aka, Commodore 64's) shortly after I met him, and I believe still has them for nostalgia's sake.
So yes, as far as old computers go, you're very much among friends. ^___^
(unless it's to get a greener machine, I'm not in any hurry to update to a bleeding edge system, certainly not those pimped to the point you need a liquid cooling mechanism.... -v-;)
Oh, and kudos to your decision to add Ubuntu to your eMachine. ^___^
Even though eMachines are legendarily cheap, Linux will definitely give your more mileage for the hardware (for instance, EXT 2 filesystems doesn't rip up your hard drive as much as NTFS.... ^^;)
Unless software is installed for that purpose, Windows will never be able to detect Linux drives unless they're installed in FAT systems (obviously not a very good idea), so XP will never realize Ubuntu-san is there (aside from wondering why she has less hard drive space all of a sudden...)
I did have one time where XP stole my boot load-up, but believe it or not that was PCLOS' fault for adding the "makedefault" tab or something like that to the Windows bootloader section in GRUB. That essentially transferred the boot flag to the Windows partition, making XP boot and bypassing GRUB altogether (cause XP doesn't like sharing... ^___^')
Without the ability to read Ext2 drives from Windows, the Puppy-chan LiveCD had to come to the rescue to fix this mess.... -v-;
That's why I got the spare hard drive. I didn't actually want XP to change at all, it DOES work for what I want it for. This way, if I ever just want it back how it was, I swap one cable and move a jumper down one. No change, since the master drive boots first, I could get away with leaving the XP untouched. And the spare hard drive is always a boost. I heard about RAD arrays where a file's in multiple spots for backup. I do the same thing, on my two drives. File swamps between them is done with a thumb drive, which makes it VERY easy!
I personally LOVE e-machines, because it does what I need. To be honest, aside from the lack of a dual-core, there's almost no difference between my old system and the new ones, so once I upgrade my memory, I'll still be fine for a while to come. Nothing I do is a processor hog, just a memory hog. Though I did avoid loading Norton's 2007. My mom's computer is just about identical except for the lack of a linux-drive. Norton's REALLY slows her's down. I moved to AVG and Comodo from Norton's 2006 when it expired, and I'm happy with it so far.
You're right, by the way, Linux-mode is MUCH faster on my hardware, even after stripping out Norton's. I was amazed. It was like getting a brand-new computer for the price of the spare drive. And you have to admire an OS where 'copy as many times as you want and give them away to friends' is not piracy, it's considered a legal distribution channel.
Now that you mention it, I have been meaning to get a small cheap extra hard drive form my AMD64. Not really for media storage, but rather more to store my virtual desktops (it's recommended that the VM images not be in the same device as the master OS). Otherwise, I'm okay with chopping up my HD into partitions, especially since I really want to start weening off the old hard disk model.
I do declare that solid-state storage is the future,.....! ^____^
http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4452
(admittedly, it will be a long while before 300GB flash drives become feasible.... ^^:)
You're not missing much by not having a dual-core. True, Linux does make a little more use of it, but if the software doesn't take advantage of the extra processing power, it might end up being more hinderance than a help. *recalls bad memories with Windows MCE and certain games* -v-
And good call on Norton. I myself once fell victim to their shinanigans, but fortunately saw the light before I was coerced to renew my license. ^__^
Initially I transitioned to a cheaper but better subscription antivirus and ZoneAlarm (before they were sold off to shady people). Some freeware experiments later, I coincedentally ended up with AVG and Comodo as well. ^___^
Course now it's Firestarter and KlamAV, but that's another story. -v-
I keep holding onto the suspicion that once the major PAID antivirus companies are out of the picture, we'll see a mysterious drop in virus prevalence.... Call it "vested interest" if you will..... ¬___¬'
QuoteYou're right, by the way, Linux-mode is MUCH faster on my hardware, even after stripping out Norton's. I was amazed. It was like getting a brand-new computer for the price of the spare drive. And you have to admire an OS where 'copy as many times as you want and give them away to friends' is not piracy, it's considered a legal distribution channel.
Deshou... fufu.... ^___^
And THAT's just with nice ol' heavy Ubuntu + Gnome Desktop. ^v^
Try a lighter or more optimized distros still, and that thing will act like a quad-processor! @o@
Linux writers generally have no vested interest in hardware manufacturers, so there's no reason for them to bloat their software in order to require more and more hardware requirements. Ubuntu can give you a Vista-quality experience with the same hardware that was good enough for Windows XP vanilla. It's all a matter of programming efficiency. ^__^
(that's also the reason why XP, when stripped of all its internal "unnecessaries", occupies less than a GB of hard disk space and boots up in like 5 seconds.... ^.^)
And yes, the free distribution is a thing to be admired. Even if one isn't planning to use it seriously, credit should at least be given to Canonical for not only allowing the distribution to be dispersed freely, but also for offering to MAIL free copies of the CD to those that don't have internet. (and lest we forget that cute thing with the Freedom Toasters.... http://www.freedomtoaster.org/ )
At the very least, those LiveCDs are always handy to help troubleshoot a defunct Windows installation (although there are other LiveCDs better suited to that kind of troubleshooting).
QuoteI have a rather old system (about *gasp!* 4 years...) An E-machines I got for under $300 with a Celeron D processor. It has had one hard drive crash, which was a bear, but their tech support's good.
Hey! A brother-in-eMachines :D
QuoteI personally LOVE e-machines, because it does what I need.
My thoughts about eMachines exactly! My laptop, K8, runs great. She's had lots of hardware problems though, but the (100-some-dollar) warranty has covered it ALL. The software/OS has been nothing short of amazingly stable.
Quote(that's also the reason why XP, when stripped of all its internal "unnecessaries", occupies less than a GB of hard disk space and boots up in like 5 seconds.... ^.^)
My computer's used HD space is a (kinda) whopping 23 GB and it still boots up in a good 20 or so seconds...
It seems that everyone has that...the E-machines has one big breakdown, they fix it cheap,and then it runs forever.
I'm not the worst of the e-machines crowd. My church and friend both have Windows 98 systems.
QuoteHey! A brother-in-eMachines
Y'all like that brand a lot, I see. -v-
Thanks to Linux, though, I'm no longer terribly critical about the hardware anymore since I'm more inclined to "tinker" with it, warranty be damned (I never had faith in those anyway). But that's just me, so the majority of my disdain is really aimed at companies that have had a history of being consumer traps (specifically Compaq, HP, Gateway, [yes] eMachines, Sony, etc.), be it not supplying recovery CDs or preinstalling abusive amounts of crapware, or inserting an intentionally poor powerbox, or faulty RAM, or an overclocked CPU, etc, etc,... in the hopes that your average computer user wouldn't know the difference.
That's why I miss the old VPR Matrix brand, because THAT was truly hardware for the masses,... Cheap yet surprisingly-well built, stable, pretty in a no-frills, no-nonsense kinda way, and with enough expansion to last for years (mine is still running strong). They were SO good in fact, that the aforementioned companies fought tooth and nail to get rid of any trace of the legendary VPRMs. ^__^
*sigh*
*prays*
ASUS,... you're my only hope. ^.^
QuoteMy computer's used HD space is a (kinda) whopping 23 GB and it still boots up in a good 20 or so seconds...
Well hard drive space itself doesn't determine how fast a bootup goes. It's a combination of CPU, RAM, drivers, startup programs, prefetch commands, harddrive fragmentation, and [if you're not careful] possible malware. That's the reason why a fresh OEM XP install loads up relatively snappy, while one a year later that has taken a lot of abuse in gaming, internet surfing and shareware downloading, will inevitably perform sluggish. Naturally, the less you use it for extreme tasks, the less problems you'll encounter and the longer the hardware will last (it's all about "wear and tear", baby). ^___^
QuoteIt seems that everyone has that...the E-machines has one big breakdown, they fix it cheap,and then it runs forever.
Yep, going back to the whole consumer trap thing. ^__^
After all,... if these machines were reliable from the get go,... then they would never be able to sell warranties. ^.^
To say nothing of the hardware manufacturers on the sidelines itching to sell the replacement parts. ^v^
QuoteI'm not the worst of the e-machines crowd. My church and friend both have Windows 98 systems.
Aha! More Hacchans! ^__^
Seems they're more prevalent than we thought. ^.^
Sadly, I think you're right on the crapware. The FIRST thing I do, with any new computer is GET RID of all the bloat, which can take HOURS, and three or four restarts. The E-mach I have, for example, actually had to have part of the bloat removed BECAUSE it caused a conflict with another part (in this case, McAfee and Norton's anti-viruses on the SAME computer!). And then, if you have to do a restore, it puts it all BACK. I've ditched Microsoft Word, Money, AOL, 'service connection', and a LOT more.
That's why I'm, from now on, keeping a couple Live-CD's of Linux handy, now that I know how to use it. If the hard drive crashes (which seems to be the only thing that ever goes wrong for me) I will just replace the drive, re-load, and go, perhaps installing the restore of my already-licensed Windows in a VM. The only thing I have trouble with in Ubuntu is printing, it HATES my Lexmark Z715.
I know what you mean about linux and printer problems. I've a number that either won't print, or print nonsense when I connect them to my Xubuntu computer. Luckily Sazaki-chan seems to like all my peripherals, so she typically ends up running a lot across my network ^v^
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As for bloat-ware, I've never had to deal with it, since when I did use Windows as a viable OS, I build everything from scratch. No preinstalled anything, thank goodness ^__^
Hmmm,... now that you mention it, I've never tried printing off my machine before..... '__'
(I don't do much printing period,... it's an eco-friendly thing, ya know... -v-')
QuoteSadly, I think you're right on the crapware. The FIRST thing I do, with any new computer is GET RID of all the bloat, which can take HOURS, and three or four restarts. The E-mach I have, for example, actually had to have part of the bloat removed BECAUSE it caused a conflict with another part (in this case, McAfee and Norton's anti-viruses on the SAME computer!). And then, if you have to do a restore, it puts it all BACK. I've ditched Microsoft Word, Money, AOL, 'service connection', and a LOT more.
The crapware is sad but inevitable,... in some cases, it's what helps keep the price of the computer low and/or the "Microsoft Tax" well hidden (cause like it or not, that copy of preinstalled Windows on your machine ain't free.... ^____^). That's why I'm curious to know if the new Dell Ubuntu PCs have bloatware or not,.... cause,... ya know.... where would they get Linux-compatible bloatware from ? ^v^;
Since you ditch word, btw, I reckon you're using something like OpenOffice perhaps? ^___^
QuoteThat's why I'm, from now on, keeping a couple Live-CD's of Linux handy, now that I know how to use it. If the hard drive crashes (which seems to be the only thing that ever goes wrong for me) I will just replace the drive, re-load, and go, perhaps installing the restore of my already-licensed Windows in a VM. The only thing I have trouble with in Ubuntu is printing, it HATES my Lexmark Z715.
I like the cut of your jib! ^v^
All for that brilliant statement, I grant thee access to our special avatar repository, so you can put one underneath your name..... ^___^
http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/Avatar_Gallery
I have heard that Linux and printers don't always mix, although in fairness (like most other peripheral problems) the problem also has a lot to do with the fact that many manufacturers assume you're running Windows. They'll laugh at you if you declare yourself a Mac user, and they'll look at you strangely if you say you use Linux (had that happen to me during the weekend in fact). [And don't even try mentioning BSD, Solaris, QNX or Amiga, cause that's a one-way ticket to the nut house.... ^^;]
Ergo, a particular mouse, keyboard, scanner, or graphics card may not work because it wasn't designed to be universal. And naturally there may not be a proper Linux driver available cause reverse-engineered driver writing is essentially a voluntary task. So you either go ahead and try to write it yourself (to then distribute to the community), or you donate your stubborn hardware to someone who can write it for you and doesn't have the money and/or interest to buy it. ^^;
As you well know, with THOUSANDS of printers released annually, it's only natural the best support is consolidated only among the better known and/or least problematic hardware. The situation is infinitely better than what it was not but 5 years ago, but until Linux gets more desktop market share, it will continue to be a problem and sites like these will continue to be necessary:
http://www.linux.org/hardware/
http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatibility.html
Thanks for the links, those will actually be useful (the avatars AND the hardware!). I've GOT to print, though, for both normal letters to relatives with no PC's, or for Grad school.
My current set-up:
Linux works out what needs to be done. The page is exported to PDF or saved in Word format.
XP wakes up one day to find her inbox full and a post-it saying 'print this.' She curses the day she lost her place as 'master' drive on this system.
And I didn't remove Word, I actually installed it in Windows (2003). What IO removed was Works. I have a PDA I synch under Windows with Documents to Go. I don't know why, but Works really goofed up my files, and since I also write short stories and novels, that was unacceptable. I replaced it with Open Office, so I now have OO and Word on the SAME XP load. It actually works very well. Though OO is very slow to start up in Windows. In Linux it's faster then Word. In either case I have the defaults set to .doc so as to have no compatibility issues.
Quote from: "Bella"
QuoteI personally LOVE e-machines, because it does what I need.
My thoughts about eMachines exactly! My laptop, K8, runs great. She's had lots of hardware problems though, but the (100-some-dollar) warranty has covered it ALL. The software/OS has been nothing short of amazingly stable.
My XP MCE computer is from e-Machines and I must say it's a great machine! If only I could say that to my 98SE that I'm using now ;_;
*whispers*
It's okay 98SE-tan... Viru-tan, Adware-tan, and Spyware-tan will leave you soon. *pets*
QuoteMy XP MCE computer is from e-Machines and I must say it's a great machine!
Woohoo!
*salutes sister-in-eMachines*
QuoteSadly, I think you're right on the crapware. The FIRST thing I do, with any new computer is GET RID of all the bloat, which can take HOURS, and three or four restarts. The E-mach I have, for example, actually had to have part of the bloat removed BECAUSE it caused a conflict with another part (in this case, McAfee and Norton's anti-viruses on the SAME computer!). And then, if you have to do a restore, it puts it all BACK. I've ditched Microsoft Word, Money, AOL, 'service connection', and a LOT more.
I don't know if this is coincidence or not, but it seems that laptops have less crapware than desktops. My eMachines had very few trials, which I promptly got rid of; my family's HP had more; but my friend's HP desktop was positively CRAWLING with junk software.
QuoteThat's why I'm curious to know if the new Dell Ubuntu PCs have bloatware or not,.... cause,... ya know.... where would they get Linux-compatible bloatware from ? ^v^;
I want to know if the Ubuntu machines will be $200 less than the Vista machines (cause Vista...you know...costs a couple hundred bucks XD)
A $200 discount would be great, but from what I see on their site, it's not that good, perhaps because of the lack of trials and such. That's what made me get a $50 hard drive and download a 7.04 Live-CD file. The only difference, like I said, between my old one and the new ones is I lack a dual-core and a DVD-burner. I can add the burner later and I don't need the dual-core, the Celeron D seems to work fine.
I wish the Ubuntu machines had been cheaper, I'd have grabbed one for college.
QuoteI don't know if this is coincidence or not, but it seems that laptops have less crapware than desktops. My eMachines had very few trials, which I promptly got rid of; my family's HP had more; but my friend's HP desktop was positively CRAWLING with junk software.
I think that's the case cause laptops are already pretty expensive. ^^'
BTW, the whole CRAWLING with junk software thing takes me back to the late 90's, when the whole "free dial-up internet' and "free computer" fad was in full force... ^__^
And I'm not talking "free" as in OSS, but just plain ol' free computers with Windows and livable hardware and stuff. As with the free internet, the catch was that your entire computer was not only filled to the brimmed with crapware, but also had advertisements EVERYWHERE. On bootup, on your desktop, on your taskbar, while you're accessing file manager, with pop-ups or sidebars interfering with game sessions, and naturally all over your browser,....
Not sure if a computer was worth that humiliation, but I knew at least one friend with enough computer savvy [and a magnet] who cleaned out the hard drive and reinstalled vanilla Windows on it (or maybe an early Linux distros, I forget....).
Voila! Free computer, period. ^____^;
QuoteI want to know if the Ubuntu machines will be $200 less than the Vista machines (cause Vista...you know...costs a couple hundred bucks XD)
QuoteA $200 discount would be great, but from what I see on their site, it's not that good, perhaps because of the lack of trials and such. That's what made me get a $50 hard drive and download a 7.04 Live-CD file. The only difference, like I said, between my old one and the new ones is I lack a dual-core and a DVD-burner. I can add the burner later and I don't need the dual-core, the Celeron D seems to work fine.
One of the reasons I was (or rather continue to be) suspicious of Dell is that they really don't seem interested in making the ubuntu Dell thing work. Orders have easily outstripped supply, meaning they didn't bother to stock enough units (probably cause they didn't expect this to work out). Furthermore it sounds like Ubuntu isn't physically preinstalled into the machines (they make you do it), and the hardware + drivers aren't guaranteed to work (so what the hell's the point of buying it from you?! as opposed to, say, Tuxmachines.org?).
And yes, there's the cost issue too,... and although there is generally a $50 USD difference, clearly it should be less given the equivalent hardware. So they're either:
a) Pricing these conservatively so as to maintain a substantial profit in the event of consumer run-off from Vista.
b) They can't add any bloatware/crapware to discount the price like in the Vista machines (the trial copy of that horrible Office 2007 alone probably brings the price down an additional $50USD).
c) They're trying hard to make these as unattractive as possible, so as to declare the Ubuntu Dell a failure and use this to shut up the IdeaStorm crowd for good.
Truth be told, there might've also been resistance "from the top" so to speak, and no matter how much market potential can be tapped by selling cheap Linux machines, they don't feel it prudent to risk having all their XP/Vista licenses pulled in retaliation, not when they still need to compete with HP, Gateway, Sony and Lenovo.
It's a sad state of affairs, however....
QuoteI wish the Ubuntu machines had been cheaper, I'd have grabbed one for college.
...hope is on the horizon from unexpected sources. Aside from that $189USD ASUS laptop I mentioned in another thread, other manufacturers are starting to push towards cheaper, lighter, greener, solid-state (or online) storage solutions that are for the most part Linux-based. Since these machines already offer enough computing power and ultra portability to suit the needs of students (especially poor college students), but at prices that would make these major US computer manufacturers gag, there's a strong chance these will fly off the shelves.
If monkey see is forced to monkey do, expect Dell THEN to give Linux machines the respect they deserve (and yes, that means your $200USD discount).... ^___^
Added after 10 minutes: QuoteLinux works out what needs to be done. The page is exported to PDF or saved in Word format.
XP wakes up one day to find her inbox full and a post-it saying 'print this.' She curses the day she lost her place as 'master' drive on this system.
Wait a sec,... is that "inbox" in the symbolic sense, or are you emailing your files to yourself to cross the system barrier? ^^;
I mean that can work too (Linus himself prefers to store his files online for the entire world to back them up), but there are ways to get them across internally of course. ^^'
(a separate FAT32 partition or a USB stick for example)
QuoteAnd I didn't remove Word, I actually installed it in Windows (2003). What IO removed was Works. I have a PDA I synch under Windows with Documents to Go. I don't know why, but Works really goofed up my files, and since I also write short stories and novels, that was unacceptable. I replaced it with Open Office, so I now have OO and Word on the SAME XP load. It actually works very well. Though OO is very slow to start up in Windows. In Linux it's faster then Word. In either case I have the defaults set to .doc so as to have no compatibility issues.
Coincentally, I just finished installing OO on my friends laptop that he'll be shipping over to his father. It's such a great program, I consider the speed thing the necessary trade-off to all "free" stuff. -v-
The slow speed has to do with the Java programming leftover from back in the StarOffice days. The current OpenOffice developers have done an excellent job in cleaning up the code and improving the speed and performance of the office suite A LOT (trust me, StarOffice was abyssmally SLOOOOOOOOOW). X__X
However, we're talking millions of lines of code and not as many developers as there should be (mostly from Sun still), so unfortunately it will be a while before its speed can be competitive with Microsoft Office.
KOffice applications and the old GnomeOffice remnants (Abiword and Gnumeric), on the other hand, can run rings around the M$ equivalents. But, like Krita, they're far from prolevel. -v-
;hi Guess I'm the new guy here.
;025 Okay, time for me to blurt about my rig;
* Athlon 64 Venice 2.2GHz (Got it for $40 at www.newegg.com)
* Biostar K8T800-A7A motherboard (I got it with Athlon 64 CPU purchase as a combo - for $80.)
* two sticks of A-Data 512 MB DDR400 RAMs (Just want to make my Athlon 64 happy)
* BFGTech GeForce 7600GS 512MB AGP 8x video card
* c**ppy 20GB hard drive (planning to get 250GB ones, though...)
* two DVD burners, one is Sony and, other is Lite-On brands
* Ultra 450 Watts power supply
* Zip-250 EIDE drive
*Windows 2000 - SP4 (With AMD PowerNow! applet installed)
- I modified my case, as to shear those fan-choking grilles, put in glowy fans and, put in a blue LED for power light... You could notice that it has some decript hardwares - I mainly recycle the parts I ripped out of the computers that were in trash.
;020 Not too perfect, though. Because in Montana, I get poor easily - I wouldn't take a toilet job even if it's for money...
Oh and, I liked Me-tan, she's a hilarious girl... And a weird one too!
ur from montana eh?? Where at?
;001 Yeah, in East Helena.
But, as I said, there are nohing good about the jobs.
(Sorry, Montanans... but it's that way.)
And, I still use Windows 2000 because it's more stable than
Vista (until at least it get Service Pack 1) and, way back to Windows 1.0.
I was born and raised for a time in helena :P My mom and my dads side of the family is still over there and I take trips out there on a regular basis. Heck, if you shop at the wallmart youve probobly been checked out by her before.
;020 Thought so. Although I don't really go to Wal-Mart too often.
;001 And, by the way, I might move to Tokyo - since my friends over there really wanted me there. ;124 Guess I'm sort of a fun guy for them; Lemme say you, I used to be some sort of a class clown.
Quote from: "Bella"QuoteMy XP MCE computer is from e-Machines and I must say it's a great machine!
Woohoo!
*salutes sister-in-eMachines*
QuoteSadly, I think you're right on the crapware. The FIRST thing I do, with any new computer is GET RID of all the bloat, which can take HOURS, and three or four restarts. The E-mach I have, for example, actually had to have part of the bloat removed BECAUSE it caused a conflict with another part (in this case, McAfee and Norton's anti-viruses on the SAME computer!). And then, if you have to do a restore, it puts it all BACK. I've ditched Microsoft Word, Money, AOL, 'service connection', and a LOT more.
I don't know if this is coincidence or not, but it seems that laptops have less crapware than desktops. My eMachines had very few trials, which I promptly got rid of; my family's HP had more; but my friend's HP desktop was positively CRAWLING with junk software.
Laptops don't carry much junk software? That's good to know! My dad is thinking about buying a laptop to replace our 98SE desktop computer so this info would great to pass on to him. When we bought the 98SE in '99 (Holy crap, it was that long ago?! O_O; ), the computer was jam packed with junk software. It wasn't until last year my mother clean out the junk software because:
a) we never EVER used it and
b) our computer was slowing down
When my parents bought me my XP MCE in November, my computer was again filled with junk software but not as much as the 98SE. Maybe it's a Dell thing to pack tons of junk software? o_O;
Don't forget to Reuse/Refurbish/Recycle that old 98SE desktop computer, Lilly-san. ^.^
But I reckon I'm preaching to the choir.... -v-
Speaking of junk software, what do you do when you have something like McAfee on an old computer that's LONG since expired, you're using AVG or the like, but McAfee has no uninstaller? I've disconnected its auto-starts on startup to make AG work, but it's still cluttering up disk space, and I have no idea what to do about it.
It's a Win98SE if that means anything.
And if decide to just attack it with a stack of Live-CD's till the exorcism is complete, what's a good Linux distro that'll run on an old Win98 machine with ~80Mg ram?
QuoteAnd if decide to just attack it with a stack of Live-CD's till the exorcism is complete, what's a good Linux distro that'll run on an old Win98 machine with ~80Mg ram?
Puppy Linux?
I dunno, I've only ran it on a machine w/ a swap partition.
Quote from: "C-Chan"Don't forget to Reuse/Refurbish/Recycle that old 98SE desktop computer, Lilly-san. ^.^
But I reckon I'm preaching to the choir.... -v-
Don't worry. I won't! :3
QuoteSpeaking of junk software, what do you do when you have something like McAfee on an old computer that's LONG since expired, you're using AVG or the like, but McAfee has no uninstaller? I've disconnected its auto-starts on startup to make AG work, but it's still cluttering up disk space, and I have no idea what to do about it.
It's a Win98SE if that means anything.
Sou sou,.. it seems kinda odd that it doesn't have an uninstaller. '__'
Oh well, there's more than one way to put skin back onto a cat. ^__^
(wait, is that how that goes...?)
Best thing to do is to pay a visit to your Win98 Program Files folder and look for the folder that reads McAfee something. Then just physically delete the whole thing. -v-
Registry stuff may still remain (nothing that System Mechanic couldn't handle), but at least you won't have to worry about the used up hard disk space. ^^
QuoteAnd if decide to just attack it with a stack of Live-CD's till the exorcism is complete, what's a good Linux distro that'll run on an old Win98 machine with ~80Mg ram?
Attack? I only know of a way to clean-up a Windows install through Knoppix, but not sure what you mean per se. ^^;
As for which LiveCDs could work well on your old rig, glad you asked. ^V^
As Bella-san touched on, there are plenty of famous distros that can function quite well (even stretch their legs) on computer specs such as yours.
Puppy-chan for one,... I managed to run her on 64megs only, even though 128MB of RAM is recommended (the first thing I did was set up a large swap file).
Damn Small Linux, on the other hand, really only need 64megs tops, so that could be a good alternative. ^__^
Naturally, we also have Feather Linux, Zenwalk, Vector Linux (not the newest one), Fluxbuntu,....
And if you're feeling particularly adventurous, feel free to try out to new initiates:
1) LinuxConsole, which presumably works with as little as 16MB of RAM!!
and
2) AntiX, which is a barebones version of MEPIS designed for older systems.
Xubuntu might be a bit top-heavy, but I've heard success stories with it on old machines, so why not eh? ^__^
Bottom Line is: you can toss a ball into a hall filled with Linux Distros-tans and hit 20 or 30 of them that can turn your old machine into a modern 21st century system. ^___^
(though adding some extra RAM and an ethernet card helps a lot.... -.-)
QuoteDon't worry. I won't! :3
Bless you, Lilly-san. ^___^
Now then, have you heard it's good luck to give free peach juice to a pig? ^.^
*extends empty glass*
*wags tail in expectation* ^___^
Quote from: "C-Chan"
QuoteDon't worry. I won't! :3
Bless you, Lilly-san. ^___^
Now then, have you heard it's good luck to give free peach juice to a pig? ^.^
*extends empty glass*
*wags tail in expectation* ^___^
No I didn't! That sounds cool ^o^
I'm kinda having some computer problems with my XP MCE. It's having a hard time shuting down and something keeps crashing and I having no idea of what it is. I don't know if the problem is still there since a) I'm nervous to turn it back on and b) it's insanely hot upstairs and the outside is just as bad. I'll let you guys know if anything happens.
QuoteI'm kinda having some computer problems with my XP MCE. It's having a hard time shuting down and something keeps crashing and I having no idea of what it is. I don't know if the problem is still there since a) I'm nervous to turn it back on and b) it's insanely hot upstairs and the outside is just as bad. I'll let you guys know if anything happens.
Try to think if anything happened recently, or if you did anything that might have messed up something. When my computer's acting up, I try to figure what caused if because then it might give a clue as to how it should be fixed.
If you do decide to turn it on, the first thing I'd do is a PARTIAL system restore. This won't erase any of your data; it'll just return XP to the last known good setting of your choosing. A few days back, after getting my computer back from the Best Buy repair shop, it was hanging when starting Firefox. So, I did a restore.
Start>Help and support>system restore>restore to an earlier time> and follow the dialogue.
I once had a problem like that a few years back. K8 (my laptop running XP home) blue screened of death, and I shut it down real quick and was afraid to put it back on for NINE DAYS XD See, I was still pretty new to XP and I thought I caught a virus or something that would crash my HD.
Finally, I wanted to go on my computer so bad I said to heck with it and turned it on. On startup it said the system had encountered a serious error (or something like that) and asked if I wished to proceed or restore to last good known settings. I picked the later and K8's been fine ever since (that was the last time she BSOD'd I believe :D )
Quote from: "Bella"QuoteI'm kinda having some computer problems with my XP MCE. It's having a hard time shuting down and something keeps crashing and I having no idea of what it is. I don't know if the problem is still there since a) I'm nervous to turn it back on and b) it's insanely hot upstairs and the outside is just as bad. I'll let you guys know if anything happens.
Try to think if anything happened recently, or if you did anything that might have messed up something. When my computer's acting up, I try to figure what caused if because then it might give a clue as to how it should be fixed.
If you do decide to turn it on, the first thing I'd do is a PARTIAL system restore. This won't erase any of your data; it'll just return XP to the last known good setting of your choosing. A few days back, after getting my computer back from the Best Buy repair shop, it was hanging when starting Firefox. So, I did a restore.
Start>Help and support>system restore>restore to an earlier time> and follow the dialogue.
I once had a problem like that a few years back. K8 (my laptop running XP home) blue screened of death, and I shut it down real quick and was afraid to put it back on for NINE DAYS XD See, I was still pretty new to XP and I thought I caught a virus or something that would crash my HD.
Finally, I wanted to go on my computer so bad I said to heck with it and turned it on. On startup it said the system had encountered a serious error (or something like that) and asked if I wished to proceed or restore to last good known settings. I picked the later and K8's been fine ever since (that was the last time she BSOD'd I believe :D )
The last thing I remember doing was making wallpapers with Photoshop and that's what started the whole thing.
I'll see what I can do! Hopefully, I won't get the blue screen of death XD I can't stop having nightmares about them ;o;
QuoteNo I didn't! That sounds cool ^o^
Mmmmm-hmmmmm,... Yep yep, it does sound very cool. ^__^
*waves glass*
I forgot that brand I picked up at Dominick's while I was in Toronto. The peach juice was bright orange, and the label was white with green labeling and (naturally) bilingual. ^.^
But not having that, I could easily accept some of that Allen's brand juice. ^__^
*waves glass again*
QuoteI'm kinda having some computer problems with my XP MCE. It's having a hard time shuting down and something keeps crashing and I having no idea of what it is. I don't know if the problem is still there since a) I'm nervous to turn it back on and b) it's insanely hot upstairs and the outside is just as bad. I'll let you guys know if anything happens.
Ahh, you too. ^__^
My XP MCE sucked as well, although I just sorta/kinda got rid of it. -v-;
Yeah, do as Bella-san, and if for any reason you have to go into safe mode, I think pressing F8 at the beginning of boot-up still works for MCE.
I fixed something similar on a friend's computer (which actually did involve a virus messing things up at boot), although then I cheated since I had my own laptop on hand to help do research. It was a bit hard though since I had to use special recovery disks to get some kind of temporary rescue system or command prompt going (this was before I knew about Linux LiveCDs).
In any event, fear not young Lilly-san, as there are plenty of ways to repair your system nowadays. ^__^
Especially when you have the luxury of owning multiple computers. ^v^
Added after 50 seconds: And yes, I don't miss those BSODs either. If it's true that knowledge is power, perhaps one day you too will probably just laugh at them. ^.^
Quote from: "C-Chan"
QuoteI'm kinda having some computer problems with my XP MCE. It's having a hard time shuting down and something keeps crashing and I having no idea of what it is. I don't know if the problem is still there since a) I'm nervous to turn it back on and b) it's insanely hot upstairs and the outside is just as bad. I'll let you guys know if anything happens.
Ahh, you too. ^__^
My XP MCE sucked as well, although I just sorta/kinda got rid of it. -v-;
Yeah, do as Bella-san, and if for any reason you have to go into safe mode, I think pressing F8 at the beginning of boot-up still works for MCE.
I fixed something similar on a friend's computer (which actually did involve a virus messing things up at boot), although then I cheated since I had my own laptop on hand to help do research. It was a bit hard though since I had to use special recovery disks to get some kind of temporary rescue system or command prompt going (this was before I knew about Linux LiveCDs).
In any event, fear not young Lilly-san, as there are plenty of ways to repair your system nowadays. ^__^
Especially when you have the luxury of owning multiple computers. ^v^
Added after 50 seconds:
And yes, I don't miss those BSODs either. If it's true that knowledge is power, perhaps one day you too will probably just laugh at them. ^.^
I just hope I can figure out what the hell is up with my machine! @_@ I mean, I just got it! And it doesn't even have internet! My 98SE is the only computer with the internet.
The BSOD appear a lot on my 98SE. When it crashes, it loves to put up the "System is busy" BSOD. I swear, I think the're after me. ;o; *is very paranoid*
Patience patience, young Lilly-san. ^___^
All preinstalled machines from known vendors come with little "modifications" that make them break down and you cry in case you didn't purchase warranty. ^^
In this case, it probably triggered earlier than hoped for (companies hate it when computer problems occur within manufacturer's warranty).
The fact that you didn't have it hooked up to the internet (am i reading that right?) does strike me as odd, given that a lot of the things which COULD mess up your Windows come from the internet. I'm guessing it could be defective RAM chips or eminent hard-drive failure then, although I doubt it. In the case of defective RAM, a prime symptom is that your entire system (including audio) freezes up. In the case of HD failure, the OS may occasionally refuse to boot.
Just outta curiousity..... Does your Secchan (=98SE) machine come with a CD burner (and for that matter, is your Net connection relatively fast)? ^___^
Also outta curiousity,... do you have access to another relatively modern computer aside from Secchan?
Added after 56 seconds:
Oh, and when we fix this (assuming you don't opt to simply have it repaired/replaced), don't forget the peach juice. ^.^
*taps glass*
Quote from: "C-Chan"Patience patience, young Lilly-san. ^___^
All preinstalled machines from known vendors come with little "modifications" that make them break down and you cry in case you didn't purchase warranty. ^^
In this case, it probably triggered earlier than hoped for (companies hate it when computer problems occur within manufacturer's warranty).
The fact that you didn't have it hooked up to the internet (am i reading that right?) does strike me as odd, given that a lot of the things which COULD mess up your Windows come from the internet. I'm guessing it could be defective RAM chips or eminent hard-drive failure then, although I doubt it. In the case of defective RAM, a prime symptom is that your entire system (including audio) freezes up. In the case of HD failure, the OS may occasionally refuse to boot.
Just outta curiousity..... Does your Secchan (=98SE) machine come with a CD burner (and for that matter, is your Net connection relatively fast)? ^___^
Also outta curiousity,... do you have access to another relatively modern computer aside from Secchan?
Added after 56 seconds:
Oh, and when we fix this (assuming you don't opt to simply have it repaired/replaced), don't forget the peach juice. ^.^
*taps glass*
Why yes, It does have a CD burner! But... Oh no.. Could it be I transfered a virus?! O_O; HELP ME MCAFEE-TAN!!!! ;______;
I don't have acess to any other computer. XP MCE and 98SE are the only computers in the house. Before my XP MCE, 98SE was my modern PC because my computer was 3.1.
I won't forget peach juice X3
Oh, my net connection is not fast. I'm using dial-up internet ;o;
Hmmm,... dial-up does complicate things a bit. It's not impossible (I've downloaded 60-180MB programs before on dial-up just by leaving it on while I did other stuff), but it just makes things a little slower than they have to. ^__^
But in any event, that's fairly last resort if we ever have to download a new OS. -v-
First things first,... some questions about your MCE.... ^.^
1) How long have you owned MCE and CAN you still get it covered by warranty? We can do this and that to fix it, but if it nulls your warranty I'd rather forget about it and take full advantage of the money you spent (cause quite frankly, you don't deserve a computer that breaks down so quickly) . ^.^'
2) What brand is it again? Oh never mind, you said before it was an eMachine. ^^;
*glances at Bella-san* ¬v¬
3) Can you still boot into MCE? That is, do these crashes occur once your inside Windows or during boot-up? More importantly, do you have time to install stuff on your MCE before it crashes? If so, then ta heck with that treacherous McAfee.... We'll rely on your new friend Avast or AVG to find out any potential viruses you may have. ^__^
(Ad-aware, Comodo and Firefox probably not yet, since you're not connected online yet.)
4) Did you install a lot of software or have a lot of files trapped in your hard drive? A non-destructive System Restore as Bella-san suggested can help, but if it doesn't then it may be worth trying a full reinstallation (depending on whether or not eMachines supplied you with decent Recovery disks or just a crappy HD recovery partition). T__T'
Naturally, if you don't have much stuff on it, then by all means that's a good last resort. ^____^
On the other hand, if you do have a lot of stuff that you can't bare to lose AND you can't boot back into Windows MCE....
Then......
We revisit that whole plan involving your dial-up and a CD burner. ^.^
5) Oh, and almost forgot....
Do you have USB flash sticks? And if so, what size? ^^
I'm gonna make sure I earn that delicious Peach Juice.... ^__^
[sing-song]
Oh Canadian Peach Juice... I - Stand - on - Guard - for - Thee! ^v^
C-Chan... You won't believe what just happened....
XP-TAN IS WORKING.
I'm not joking. I went to recharge Ipod-tan (because the battery was VERY low) and when I was done, it just shut it itself down! Just like I asked it to! Now, I don't know for a fact that it's entirely fixed. Maybe it's just being nice. I'll let you know if anything changes. ^__^
You mean MCE-tan is working. She's an entirely different OS-tan and all... ^^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10622/normal_1157282629214.png)
Okey-dokey, that sounds like good news, but I won't pop the champagne till 48 hours pass without any other issue. If it works okay and not intermittently, that could just prove my worst fears that this could be hardware-related. -.-
In any event, stand-by and consider points 3, 4 and 5 while you're still able to log into your system. ^^
We want to make sure you have an escape plan ready for your valuable data. -v-
(you DO have valuable data in there, dontcha? `v')
Quote from: "C-Chan"You mean MCE-tan is working. She's an entirely different OS-tan and all... ^^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10622/normal_1157282629214.png)
Okey-dokey, that sounds like good news, but I won't pop the champagne till 48 hours pass without any other issue. If it works okay and not intermittently, that could just prove my worst fears that this could be hardware-related. -.-
In any event, stand-by and consider points 3, 4 and 5 while you're still able to log into your system. ^^
We want to make sure you have an escape plan ready for your valuable data. -v-
(you DO have valuable data in there, dontcha? `v')
I forgot to add the letters MCE didn't I? XD
I haven't checked my computer yet but maybe I can actually USE my computer now that it usn't so overly hot and humid today. And yes, I do have data I would never want to lose! ;o;
QuoteI haven't checked my computer yet but maybe I can actually USE my computer now that it usn't so overly hot and humid today. And yes, I do have data I would never want to lose! ;o;
Excellent! That's what I want to hear! ^___^
After living through the pain of losing data to a messed up Compaq w/ Windows 98, and not knowing what to do or how to get it out and eventually having to say goodbye to it all.... *sigh.... just don't want you to experience my pain,... not in this day and age. -v-
So we'll be designing some measures you can take to keep your XP safe and your files secured and mobile. ^___^
In the meantime, after this little scare, it's probably a good idea to make a CD backup now of your valuables, if you haven't done so already. Prior to going online with the thing, let me know and I'll hook you up with nice FREE programs that will protect your programs. ^.^
(ironically, non-free programs such as Norton and McAfee tend to do the opposite). -v-;
In this exact moment...Ubuntu :P
I feel dirty >_<
A friend of mine gave me an Ubuntu Live CD, so I'm testing it right now.
Interesting, not bad at all. The robots game is fun :D. Windows should implement that nifty function of 2 desktops...
But It's just the Live CD, going back to XP (and soon, Vista). Must play Halo 2 now that I got it for PC :D
Wow, and just in time for the Ubuntu banner too! ^.^
*hugs Darknight*
That's okay! Just as long as you tested it and like it, you're my new favorite friend! ^__^
*ponders*
Well,... actually, you were my new favorite friend when you drew OS/2-sama, but now you're my NEWER favorite friend! ^0^
Too bad Ubuntu doesn't have Beryl available in the LiveCD,... otherwise that could've really knocked your socks off. ^___^
In any event, that CD will come in handy when you're traveling or need to do computer diagnostics (although naturally there are other distros better suited to that role, such as Puppy or Knoppix).
And if you are a h4rdc0r3 g4m3r, then maybe this distros might interest you:
http://live.linux-gamers.net/
A Live-DVD filled with nothing BUT games (mostly multiplayer ones, though... not really my cup o' tea).
Odd...
I try SAM around the time the SAM/PCLOS banners show up, Darknight_88 tries Ubuntu around the time their banners show up...
*creepy X-files music starts playing*
There's nothing wrong with a Live-CD. hat and a thumb drive to save my stuff was how I used Ubuntu for almost six months, till I finally got a second HD to install on. Reason being, I didn't want any undue risk to my heavily-overhauled XP setup. I spent quite a while getting rid of junk, finding and installing some good freeware that MASSIVELY sped up my system (thank you AVG and Foxitt reader!) and now I just have to find a decent alternative to Defender...
Of course, I've also started running most of my internet through Ubuntu...I figure if I crash the whole thing, I can restore from one CD.
Quote from: "C-Chan"QuoteI haven't checked my computer yet but maybe I can actually USE my computer now that it usn't so overly hot and humid today. And yes, I do have data I would never want to lose! ;o;
Excellent! That's what I want to hear! ^___^
After living through the pain of losing data to a messed up Compaq w/ Windows 98, and not knowing what to do or how to get it out and eventually having to say goodbye to it all.... *sigh.... just don't want you to experience my pain,... not in this day and age. -v-
So we'll be designing some measures you can take to keep your XP safe and your files secured and mobile. ^___^
In the meantime, after this little scare, it's probably a good idea to make a CD backup now of your valuables, if you haven't done so already. Prior to going online with the thing, let me know and I'll hook you up with nice FREE programs that will protect your programs. ^.^
(ironically, non-free programs such as Norton and McAfee tend to do the opposite). -v-;
Done and done! ^_^
And so far, it looks like XP-MCE-tan is running fine! I guess it was just a little minor thing. But it's best to take caution! Right C-Chan? ^-^
But now I'm having problems with my internet. ;_; It's MUCH slower then usual. Sometimes it takes so long that the pages just loses its connection! O_O
*sadness befalls C-chan*
I haven't used dial-up in quite some time, so don't remember how to troubleshoot it.... ;___;
Generally if Hacchan is accessing the internet fine, but (at the same time) MCE-tan is slow as hell, then I wonder if it's hardware or software related.... -.-
Oh no! MCE-tan doesn't have internet! I'm not allowed to have internet my computer. ;_; Hacchan is the only one with AOL-tan but FireFox-tan is the one I'm using right now.
I hope you understood that ^^;
Aa sou,... in that case I'm relieved. Probably just a problem with your service then (hopefully a temporary one). Maybe if it were "COL" instead of "AOL" it'd be a lot more reliable... Fufufu..... ^.^
XDDDDD
I hope so too. But I also get those No Page to Display messages popping up everytime I try to load a page on AOL. >_< I hope that can be fixed because I'm at the point where I can't look at my screen anymore without swearing at it XD
BTW, if you don't mind me asking, how come you can't (or aren't allowed) to use internet on your MCE machine? '__'
I'm asking cause, with better resources, accessing the Net on the faster machine should decrease the probability of you swearing.... ^___^
i was thinking of switching os.
what should i do? keep myself with Xp (since i dun wanna use vista yet) or change to OS x tiger or just make a dual boot?
I'm very glad to hear you're changing OSes and considering alternatives. ^.^
As for which one and what you plan to do, that depends on how many machines you have. ^__^
Do you have one or two or more? Are they relatively modern or dated? Do you have any server or mobility needs? Is money a concern or do usually light your fireplace with it? ^____^;
Switching to Mac will provide you with the best legacy support, since lots of apps and now more and more games are being supplied for OSX, in addition that you can still either dual-boot to XP (via Boot Camp) or virtualize it on your desktop using Parallels (I can vouch that Parallels for Mac ROCKS!). ^v^
The drawback, aside from the initial culture shock, is that this option can end up being the most expensive and nearly everything is GUI-based.
If you opt for a high-end Linux distros like PClinuxOS, Kubuntu, Mandriva, Fedora, Sabayon, or the half-million other distros, this will certainly be the cheapest option (=free) and furthermore you needn't buy new hardware since these will usually run quite well on the stuff you have now. Even if you fear missing out on Aero, the Beryl windows decorator can give you all the 3D eye candy you need even on hardware designed for Windows XP SP1 (or even Windows ME)!
A few years ago, the major drawback would've been that Linux is not beginner-friendly. And although some advanced computer knowledge is required to get the most out of your system, a lot of these distributions have done a good job in improving the usability, to the point it's now easier to install Kubuntu than it is to install XP even (e.g., no more driver hunting).... ^^
It'll be harder to run legacy applications (some of this requires that "advanced computer knowledge" I mentioned), but not impossible. You could run most Windows apps and games on Wine, Crossover or Cedega, or through parallelization software (VMWare, QEMU, VirtualBox or Parallels even).
And certainly it makes it easy for you to dual-boot, triple-boot or quadruple boot your system.
I for example still have XP installed in one of my primary machine's partitions, although I hardly use it except for playing some of the more cutting-edge games (C&C3) and only because I don't have much time to mess around with Wine.... ^___^'
*smiles*
...and you accuse
me of having overly detailed posts? ^__^
Anyways, my opinion of the matter would depend on whether you are buying new hardware, or just swapping OSes. If new hardware is involved,
I would buy a Mac, since the intel switch now gives you compatibility with both Windows and most Linux distros. With a little know-how, it is quite easy to make a dual/triple/etc. boot Mac, Plus with a little knowledge of hardware, one is able to upgrade components as time progresses. OS X itself is quite user-friendly also, and now with the kernel switch, it is quite technician friendly too!
Then again, I have worked with Macs since... well, a long time, so naturally, my hardware tendencies are not quite.... balanced ^.^
Quote...and nearly everything is GUI-based.
Anno...
I am inclined to disagree. I would say it is true, everything
can be GUI-based, but it also stands to reason that everything (and a bit more) can also be done via Terminal or Single-User mode. ^__^
If you just want a new OS, however, Senpai is right: Linux is the way to go! It is much more user friendly nowadays, and is entirely free. There are enough projects out there for running Legacy apps, that it usually isn't a problem (Wine works uber-well, most of the time). It's ultra-minimal system requirements allow you to expand the lifespan of computers exponentially!
Being able to use LiveCDs to 'test drive' an OS before installing it is another great feature.
So, the answer is... Do all of them ^v^
Quote(I can vouch that Parallels for Mac ROCKS!). ^v^
Agreed! I myself own a copy for work. Useful little thing, ne?
I like Q better, though (QEMU for Mac), simply because I can run it on my PPCs too! ^-^
Quote from: "C-Chan"BTW, if you don't mind me asking, how come you can't (or aren't allowed) to use internet on your MCE machine? '__'
I'm asking cause, with better resources, accessing the Net on the faster machine should decrease the probability of you swearing.... ^___^
My reasons for not having internet on MCE-tan:
1)I really don't want to deal with viruses and all that even if I do the best in virus protection. (This was my choic. (I'm too tired to care if I spelled that right.))
2)There is no phone jack near my computer.
3)My parents told me so. Without reason.
Hope that helps you ^^
Quote*smiles*
...and you accuse me of having overly detailed posts? ^__^
*tsk tsk tsk*
Oh Tsubashi-dono, Tsubashi-dono... *sighs*... you're just not thinking 4th-dimensionally.... -v-
When C-chan rambles ad nauseum, it's inherently GOOOOOOOOOD. ^________^
When Tsubashi-san speaks more than a single word, it's interently BAAAAAAAAD. ^_______________^
Sorry, didn't write the rules,... I'm afraid it's just the way things are.... -.-
*pats Tsubashi on back with consolation*
QuoteAnno...
I am inclined to disagree. I would say it is true, everything can be GUI-based, but it also stands to reason that everything (and a bit more) can also be done via Terminal or Single-User mode. ^__^
Sou sou, should've mentioned the Terminal. Perhaps I'm coming down with the case of Kamiitis.... ^_____^;
QuoteSo, the answer is... Do all of them ^v^
If you do have the money to splurge, definitely this is the ultimate solution to your problems. Having mastered all major Operating Systems, you will be like a Demi-God among mortals. ^.^
*dows preemptive bow and grovel before Acher*
QuoteAgreed! I myself own a copy for work. Useful little thing, ne?
I like Q better, though (QEMU for Mac), simply because I can run it on my PPCs too! ^-^
I didn't actually get to try much 3D stuff in Parallels, but it's advertised as being one of the few virtualizaiton solutions on the market that offer much better-than-average 3D acceleration emulation. I always wondered why that was so hard to port into a virtual machine, especially considering how powerful most desktop/workstation machines are these days. ^^
QuoteMy reasons for not having internet on MCE-tan:
1)I really don't want to deal with viruses and all that even if I do the best in virus protection. (This was my choic. (I'm too tired to care if I spelled that right.))
2)There is no phone jack near my computer.
3)My parents told me so. Without reason.
Hope that helps you ^^
Kinda.... and I kinda suspected #3, but was surprised with #1 and #2. ^^'
This does reinforce my theory that, all things being equal (meaning you don't need a high-end computer for your own personal use), perhaps it would be better if you and your folks swapped machines. MCE becomes the one to access the Net, and you stay with Hacchan. ^__^
After all, Windows 98 has long since stopped being supported, so it's technically more of a virus/worm/trojan trap than XP and derivatives. '_'
As for the individual reasons...
It is true that virus protection can be expensive and/or difficult to set up properly, which is a contributing factor to people considering Mac and Linux as alternatives since they are inherently safer and more secure. Aside from a slight "protection through obscurity" (both own only about 95% of the known computer market), both systems are inherently better built (Linux more so perhaps due to being open source).
While running without any virus protection or firewall is risky in itself, the risk is certainly signifcantly less (and some systems already come with preinstalled firewall, such as Ubuntu).
For #2, aside from the (in my opinion) unreliable wireless option, that issue can also be remedied through a very LONG extension cable (or a series of extension cables/couplers). Since I don't trust wireless myself, my own house is wired all over with ethernet cables and switches (cleverly-disguised, of course). ^__^
#3, however, is the hardest and there's really nothing I can or will say on the matter. I'll trust their judgement on this, especially since they are still letting you access the Web somehow (supervised, I'm assuming). While having history's largest encyclopedia is an educational asset, the Web is naturally filled with dangers that may not be readily apparent. During my dumber days, I nearly got conned into forfeiting sensitive financial information on more than one occasion, and if not for my old hacker friend (who loved to play tricks on those losers) who knows what problems I could've gotten myself into. ^___^
Given the number of people using, I've always considered it a shame that M$ has not embedded any free parental control software into their OSes. Mac has, or at least will with OSX Leopard, include that functionality.
But even before that, a lot of concerned users have responded to this need by releasing Linux distros with preinstalled parental control software that's both free and effective. Ubuntu Christian Edition is a well-known example, and while the name is a bit exclusive, it's certainly nice to know that parents took it upon themselves to create a safe and secure operating system. -v-
Ow... ;__;
My brain hurts from reading all that. Now I really know for a fact I need to get some sleep! -_-'
Switching computers was an idea I already had. But the software I use for my schooling doesn't work with Hacchan. So that kinda threw it out the window since I use my MCE for my schooling (and other personal uses but mostly schooling). That's the whole reason why my parents bought me that computer in the first place.
My dad wants get high-speed which means replacing Hacchan because... well, she's finished. If you saw this, you probably would of said the same thing. My parents just don't have the money to be purchasing anything at the monment ;_;
Two last questions if you don't mind.... ^__^
1) What exactly are Hacchan's system specs?
(CPU, memory, HD space, etc.)
2) Is the software you need for school common (like Office 2003) or a custom-built thing they gave you?
I too am short on money to allot for fancy new hardware (like Macs), so I know how you (or rather they) feel.
But with the right knowledge and strategy, you can do a whole lot more just by switching your system (operating system) instead. And best of all is that it doesn't have to cost you a single loonie, but rather can potentially salvage Hacchan so you can get maybe another 2-3 more years out of her. ^__^
Don't worry, I don't mind ^_^
Hacchan has 12.7 GB, 256 MB of RAM, and 2 USB ports. And don't laugh but I don't know what a CPU is... ;_; It has an external CD and DVD burner. We don't use the DVD burner anymore because of the USB speed. The sound is dead. Pure dead. No sound goes in or out of Hacchan. Hacchan lost its MIDI sound back in 2003 and then the rest of its sound in December 2005. It crashes more often then ME-tan. It has probelms saving in .rtf and also the BSOD shows more often then it should be. I know there's more but I can't think of it at the moment.
Actually, both of the computers don't really carry the software from my school but XP MCE makes it MUCH easier to do my school work since I don't have to worry about it crashing when dealing with Rich Text Files (rtf). My school carries WordPerfect and a bunch of other Microsoft programs that the computers doesn't carry.
I hope that helps! ^-^
EDIT: I forgot to write down... I've had Hacchan since December 1999. ^^
Quote1)I really don't want to deal with viruses and all that even if I do the best in virus protection. (This was my choic. (I'm too tired to care if I spelled that right.))
2)There is no phone jack near my computer.
3)My parents told me so. Without reason.
Nothing you can do about the no permission/no phone jack, but as for viruses my family has never had a virus/malware problem with our XPs. Mostly because I *try* not to download from anything-but-reputable sites, I don't open unknown emails, I'm sorta paranoid when it comes to torrent downloads, I use firefox, I keep my antivirus/Windows updates up-to-date, etc.
I did have a malware problem at one time, when I used IE 6 and didn't know about the Windows updates yet...
I have a friend who's XP was absolutely crawling with malware. She never installed any updates or antivirus. But a with a little time and common sense viruses can be kept to a minimum.
QuoteHacchan has 12.7 GB, 256 MB of RAM, and 2 USB ports. And don't laugh but I don't know what a CPU is... ;_; It has an external CD and DVD burner. We don't use the DVD burner anymore because of the USB speed. The sound is dead. Pure dead. No sound goes in or out of Hacchan. Hacchan lost its MIDI sound back in 2003 and then the rest of its sound in December 2005. It crashes more often then ME-tan. It has probelms saving in .rtf and also the BSOD shows more often then it should be. I know there's more but I can't think of it at the moment.
Let me start off by saying.... SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGOIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @v@
I know you're trying to make her sound terrible (having been built in 1999 and all), but honestly those specs are magnificent given the year she was released!! ^v^
As a frame of reference, Bella-san's old Compaq (only a year older than yours and also running Hacchan) has only a measly 64MB of RAM, and before I updated the old crappy Gateway I received from a friend (built in 2000), it too had only 64megs of RAM (and ran Windows ME -- which was SLOOOOOOOOW).... ^.^
Even if you don't know your CPU speed, honestly with 256megs of RAM your set for life as far as Linux operating systems go, which I'll admit is where I'm trying to lead you here. ^__^'
See, Linux distributions are free operating system that also generally have far fewer hardware requirements. So with only a 300mhz processor and 128MB of RAM, you already have enough to run Enlightenment or Xfce at blazing speeds, or Gnome or KDE at adequate speeds,.. and all of them come equipped with modern software, all the drivers you may ever need, support for DVDs, network internet, wireless internet, multi-language support, server applications, etc etc etc.
And by free, I literally do mean "free as in beer", and you can read more about Free and Open Source Software so you know I'm not going crazy.... ^__^
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
This also means that 99% of the software that comes with it is also Free/Open Source, so if you ever wanted to try your hand at 3D editing, sound editing, image editing, CAD drawing, web development, DVD ripping, or music composition, Linux can offer solutions for all of these for free. ^__^
That's why I asked you what software your school gave you to use. Cause if all you have to deal with are RTF files and WPD files, than Open Office can handle these file formats and then some...
http://www.openoffice.org/
I'm not sure if the sound problem is due to software or hardware, and same for all the crashing, but if you are interested in trying a new and exciting Operating System (especially on a computer you said you're eventually getting rid of), it would be a good test to see if maybe Linux can make your old Hacchan very useful and stable again. ^___^
The only problem is that you have dial-up, and all the best distributions tend to be standard CD sizes (700MB downloads).
Nothing a single overnight download with a trusty download-manager couldn't handle, but I won't ask you to do that. ^^'
Instead, we can check out some alternatives...
For example, you can request a free Ubuntu Linux CD straight from Canonical, and while slow they will honor your request: ^__^
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
If you're interested, we can talk more about it later. ^.^
Wow! This Linux stuff seems exciting!! ^_^ But this stuff is all up to my parents since Hacchan is the family computer and therefore they use this machine as much as I do. My dad is interested in buying a Mac for our next computer since viruses are often written for PC. But my mother wants to stick with Windows only because she needs it. As you can see, there's a big conflict over who wants what ^^;
I always thought my sound problem was the viruses because it was around at the time were adware and spyware were getting into our computer. I still remember the all those toolbars and programs... They scare me ;o;
I would like to know more about this Linux you speak of! I think my friend has a Linux of his own lying about somewhere! ^^;
Fufufu... no problemo. ^__^
Anything I could say about it will pale in comparison compared to all the documentation written for it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
http://distrowatch.com/
BUt bottom line is this....
Linux is an operating system created by people for people. There are literally THOUSANDS of Linux distributions written by individuals, communities, corporations, governments, institutions, scientists, and educational groups. The majority are mainly copies of popular distributions, with extra software, languages or features added to be relevant to their specific purpose. But nearly all of them are free to use, distribute and make copies of forever.
Moreover, this is open source software and actively maintained and grown by users themselves. This means that there is no profit-motive in building the OS, so people can focus on making it as stable, useable and secure as possible with as little hardware and strings-attached as possible. In essence, Linux is an Operating System built upon the dreams and aspirations of the user, and is only limited by the time, knowledge and creativity of the people that can develop for it.
(http://www.linuxfortravelers.com/files/images/screen3.preview.png)
A standard consumer would much rather have a powerful image editing program like Photoshop prebundled and available for free on their OS, which is why nearly all distros come prepackaged with GIMP, Krita, GNUPaint or any number of alternative image editors.
In contrast, Windows has an "I scratch your back, you scratch mine" relationship with major 3rd party software developers -- meaning they'll never develop anything as powerful as Photoshop so that the user is coaxed into buying it from Adobe, and Adobe in term promises to focus its primary development on Windows. This also holds true for hardware,... Windows will never be light and fast ever again, because it's already obliged to make money for the hard drive, memory and graphics card manufacturers.
In such a partnership, everyone wins except the consumer, who must continuously shell out more and more money to stay current and virus-free.
Traditionally, Linux and Free/Open Source software has never been a threat to them because it used to be very difficult to use and patchy,.. in other words, it was software for hobbyists and geeks only. But now a usability gap has been crossed where Linux can be AS easy and sometimes even easier to use (and certainly prettier) than its paid competition.
That's the reason why, although you may not know it, these past couple of months has seen Microsoft use every available resource it has to try to frighten, derail, armstrong and cut off the spread of interest in Linux and FOSS. They act tough, but in reality their terrified that consumers may realize they could get something better, faster, cheaper and prettier that also guarantees them full freedom to use their machines however they want to. It's no small wonder they've quietly diversified into other products, such as the XBOX and the Zune, although since they lack Apple's creativity success has been somewhat limited.
Personally that kind of greed and gawl makes me sick, so I've done everything I can as a user and a concerned citizen to counteract the actions of this multi-billion dollar cornered rat. -___-
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Wow! This Linux stuff seems exciting!! But this stuff is all up to my parents since Hacchan is the family computer and therefore they use this machine as much as I do. My dad is interested in buying a Mac for our next computer since viruses are often written for PC. But my mother wants to stick with Windows only because she needs it. As you can see, there's a big conflict over who wants what ^^;
In any event, I'm glad you're showing interest in Linux, but I understand your concern since, after all, that is their machine and perahps you're not to keen on doing anything to your brand new one yet (and nor would I suggest that anyway). Fortunately, it's because others users have had this same concern as you do that they invented this fabulous new mechanism for previewing a Linux distribution without installing it on their machine...
The Linux Live-CD. ^___^
Just about every single Linux distros in existence at the moment has the ability to run entirely off of RAM-disk, meaning you can simply pop in the CD in Hacchan upon boot-up, watch it load a temporary OS on your machine, and use it as if you were installing the real thing. There is a slight performance decrease since of course nothing beats having your files stored in physical HD space, but at least all the drivers load properly, all the applications you'll need are made available, and above all you can still access drives on your hard drive (which makes it very useful for troubleshooting). And naturally, should you choose to install, an Install button is usually clearly visible and can be accessed at any time. Nevertheless, even if you don't choose to install, a lot of LiveCDs (such as Knoppix and Puppy) embrace this technology and are designed to run this way entirely without ever having to be installed on the hard drive. You could theoretically use Linux on Hacchan for years without ever touching your Windows 98 installation.... ^__^
You can read more about this techonology here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_cd
Personally a Mac would be a nice addition to your family, but my goal at the moment is to salvage that awesome machine you have, which, unfortunately, is kept down by an OS which refuses to show you its true power. ^____^
The only problem, therefore, continues to be how to retrieve a copy. Not sure what distros your friend may have, but we want to make sure you get only the latest and greatest (since an older distribution can set off the wrong impression).
Gah! You beat me to posting
again Senpai!
Oh well, might as well post what I wrote, ne?
Quite Right, Lilly-san, Linux is exciting! It's taken a while to gather speed, but is nigh on unstoppable now. Methinks, one day, there will be no more proprietary software. Corporations will open their code, or die. It would be really
really nifty to see Apple open up OS X! ^o^
As I've said before, when buying new hardware, I would recommend buying Apple. They have, in my opinion, the best prebuilt specs. Plus, if you buy a Mactel you can install most any OS you want. For windows compatibility, you dual-boot, use Parallels, or Darwine.
Since OS X is built upon the Xnu kernel, it has the benefits of both a monolithic and microkernel. Mach makes it great for virtualizing other operating systems, and adds security, while it's BSD components help streamline things.
If the sound problem was caused by viruses, then it's entirely possible to repair. Reinstalling the Os, or running a LiveCD would instantly clear things up!
As for learning more about linux, I would recommend just jumping in and trying it. I sure you have heard Senpai and I, plus many others, sing it praises, but you cannot truly understand until you have tried it. There are a lot of user-friendly distros out there now, so basic use is really self-explanatory. If you are new to *nix type systems, it may take some time to get used to how it works, but it's well worth it.
Added after 6 minutes: QuoteThat's the reason why, although you may not know it, these past couple of months has seen Microsoft use every available resource it has to try to frighten, derail, armstrong and cut off the spread of interest in Linux and FOSS.
Ah! That reminds me. Back when I was still well connected within IBM, there was a memo sent around, which purportedly came from a Microsoft analyst. The basic premise of it was that it wasn't worth it to try and destroy the open source movements, since there was no monetary motive, they doubted that it would ever interest enough developers to rival their software. The analyst did include a note, however, that if Open source were ever to gain followers, it would be the single largest threat to the Microsoft empire, and should be eliminated at all costs.
This was some years ago, but it's interesting to see that he was right ^__^
Wow! O_O;
I'm really starting to like this Linux! *is getting all excited*
@Tsubashi- My mother has re-installed Hacchan MANY times in the past and the sound never came back. ;_; This was only because Hacchan wouldn't boot up and kept saying it couldn't find a certain file that I'm guessing it uses when booting up. But no worries, that happened two years ago and hasn't happened since! ^_^
Also, I've been on Wikipedia all morning and afternoon reasearching and learning about the different viruses there are. Yes, I have no life XD
QuoteWow! O_O;
I'm really starting to like this Linux! *is getting all excited*
*fans flames of excitement* ^V^
QuoteAlso, I've been on Wikipedia all morning and afternoon reasearching and learning about the different viruses there are. Yes, I have no life XD
No prob, no prob.... ^.^
Researching is not a thing for losers. ^v^
Besides,... the more you're exposed to Wiki,... the more tempted you become to read the Wiki links I posted above. ^___^
Added after 5 minutes: QuoteQuite Right, Lilly-san, Linux is exciting! It's taken a while to gather speed, but is nigh on unstoppable now. Methinks, one day, there will be no more proprietary software. Corporations will open their code, or die. It would be really really nifty to see Apple open up OS X! ^o^
Darknight wouldn't believe me when I mentioned the whole Open Source Windows thing. But judging from their recent actions (with Novell, Xandros and Linspire), the suspicion holds that they do at least want their cut into this open source future. Unfortunately they still want to go about it the good ol' fashioned "mafioso" way, and certainly if I were a small business or consumer I'd think twice of purchasing from a company that may threaten to pull a "SCO Group" on me.... ^__^'
If they do go the way of IBM and pull a near-complete 360 on Open Source, then it goes to reason that even an Open Source Windows 3.1-sama would be a BIG thing.
Course,... if Apple beats them to it.... Fufufu..... ^.^
*salivates at thought of OSSX* ^v^
QuoteThis was some years ago, but it's interesting to see that he was right ^__^
And how!! ^v^
Best thing about it is that we're just gettin' started.... ^__^
Wait till more developers in emerging markets start taking up the torch, and development may very well skyrocket to the point where no proprietary company could possibly keep up.... ^__^
That's why I kinda hasten the arrival of low-cost, low-footprint, portable Linux computing solutions.... ^__^
*writes letter to Asus to hurry-the-hell-up on the 3ePC* ^v^
QuoteWow! This Linux stuff seems exciting!! But this stuff is all up to my parents since Hacchan is the family computer and therefore they use this machine as much as I do. My dad is interested in buying a Mac for our next computer since viruses are often written for PC. But my mother wants to stick with Windows only because she needs it. As you can see, there's a big conflict over who wants what ^^;
Heehee...the classic family OS conflict...
We seem to have similar situations. Since last winter, when I really started to research the different distros and such, I wanted to give Linux a try but could never seem to find the right "venue". That's why this spring I started to work with Linux on my compaq running 98.
To be honest, K8 was largely funded by my folks, and while I had permission to do any/everything to the old Windows 98, I was little more worried about my Windows-hugging kin's response to my dabbling with Linux on K8. So upon trying out SAM Linux (secretly XD) I knew this was far to awesome to keep under wraps. So I told my XP loving family the best way I could...
"wanna see something awesome!?"
It's still kinda treated as some sort of parlor oddity, (when I get SAM on a HD/flash drive and can configure Wifi, then it'll be on equal footing with XP) by my family, but even that's better than "wtf is Linux?!"
My dad is quite the Windows XP (he hates Vista) zealot, but he's starting to broaden his horizons. He has taken quite a interest in Linux, providing such classics as "I can run this (live CD) on my computer?!" and "This isn't even Microsoft!" ;)
Not to mention he's absolutely sure (surer than I am *eyes dart back and fourth between Thinkpad, top-of-the-line HP, and MacBook*) my next computer's going to be a Mac.
QuoteIt would be really really nifty to see Apple open up OS X! ^o^
I think it will be a frosty day in hell when we see Apple and M$ open their OS's : |
I think with the growing popularity of OS X, Apple open sourcing it would be crazy (not so crazy if they were still running on PPC and only Apples and a handful of others could run it, but with their Intel chips, wouldn't that mean any computer could run it?). With M$, I think they'll still explore the "let's go Unix-like, no, not VMS "Unix-like", the real thing" route to gain back users before giving up and opening Windows...
QuoteIt's still kinda treated as some sort of parlor oddity, (when I get SAM on a HD/flash drive and can configure Wifi, then it'll be on equal footing with XP) by my family, but even that's better than "wtf is Linux?!"
Fufu... fortunately you'll have plenty of time to figure the whole wifi thing out. I know it's possible, just not necessarily intuitive depending on your Wifi card. ^^'
But indeed, that's progress. Certainly once they catch the Beryl Bug, the infectious interest won't subside, but will spread and spread until the day comes that they beg to........... play with the cube.... Fufu.... ^v^
QuoteMy dad is quite the Windows XP (he hates Vista) zealot, but he's starting to broaden his horizons. He has taken quite a interest in Linux, providing such classics as "I can run this (live CD) on my computer?!" and "This isn't even Microsoft!"
Tell him he rocks on my behalf please. ^v^
*frames comments alongside the New Hampshire license plate with the word "UNIX" on it*
QuoteNot to mention he's absolutely sure (surer than I am *eyes dart back and fourth between Thinkpad, top-of-the-line HP, and MacBook*) my next computer's going to be a Mac.
Not sure where that came from, but........... okay. ^__^
Now can triple boot! ^v^
QuoteI think it will be a frosty day in hell when we see Apple and M$ open their OS's : |
I think with the growing popularity of OS X, Apple open sourcing it would be crazy (not so crazy if they were still running on PPC and only Apples and a handful of others could run it, but with their Intel chips, wouldn't that mean any computer could run it?). With M$, I think they'll still explore the "let's go Unix-like, no, not VMS "Unix-like", the real thing" route to gain back users before giving up and opening Windows...
Okay okay, forget Apple and M$ then...
How about we just open source Amiga and OS/2 then? I'll settle for that any day... ^___^
I WANT MY MIGGY!! I WANT MY MIGGY!! I WANT MY MIGGY!!
I'M LOVE-STARVED AND I DEMAND MY MIGGY!!!! ^o^
QuoteFufu... fortunately you'll have plenty of time to figure the whole wifi thing out. I know it's possible, just not necessarily intuitive depending on your Wifi card. ^^'
But indeed, that's progress. Certainly once they catch the Beryl Bug, the infectious interest won't subside, but will spread and spread until the day comes that they beg to........... play with the cube.... Fufu.... ^v^
Gah! That sounds like my bro upon seeing Skydome...
"Lemme try spinning it!"
Me: "Don't you want to hear about this OS's 31-year Unix heritage...?"
As for the wifi, it give exact directions to finding the correct drivers. I just can't quite figure out how to get it to install or whatever...
Sometime I may have to use either a Hughes (satellite internet) dish or cell phone company provided wireless broadband...I wonder if they have any drivers to configure those (but that a
whole other topic...)
QuoteOkay okay, forget Apple and M$ then...
How about we just open source Amiga and OS/2 then? I'll settle for that any day... ^___^
I WANT MY MIGGY!! I WANT MY MIGGY!! I WANT MY MIGGY!!
I'M LOVE-STARVED AND I DEMAND MY MIGGY!!!! ^o^
I want open source OS/2!
(cause she'd be as good as open source Windows XD)
QuoteGah! That sounds like my bro upon seeing Skydome...
"Lemme try spinning it!"
Me: "Don't you want to hear about this OS's 31-year Unix heritage...?"
Fufu... well,... whatever it takes, I always say. ^__^
Certainly a good way to dampen Vista curiosity once they figure out there is no cube in Vista (there is sort of one in OSX, but it doesn't show up often).
QuoteAs for the wifi, it give exact directions to finding the correct drivers. I just can't quite figure out how to get it to install or whatever...
Sometime I may have to use either a Hughes (satellite internet) dish or cell phone company provided wireless broadband...I wonder if they have any drivers to configure those (but that a whole other topic...)
Next time I see you, give me the instructions. Hopefully by then I can figure it out for you. ^__^
As for the satellite/cellphone internet access, those I'm not too worried with. Satellite internet operates like any ol' connection, and all your computer has to do is worry about receiving the signal from the corresponding modem or router.
The phone is a similar story, in that it really appears as a modem to the computer. Naturally, though, some issues may arise if the device in question is a bit onthe Windows-centric side. ^^;
On the other hand, my RAZR V3 can't charge in my Windows machine without looking high and low for a driver, yet charges like a charm in Linux for some reason. ^.^
QuoteI want open source OS/2!
(cause she'd be as good as open source Windows XD)
Now you're cookin' with FIYA!! ^V^
Quotethere is sort of one in OSX, but it doesn't show up often
Wha? The mysterious cube of OS X?
I thought they only had expose...
QuoteAs for the satellite/cellphone internet access, those I'm not too worried with. Satellite internet operates like any ol' connection, and all your computer has to do is worry about receiving the signal from the corresponding modem or router.
The phone is a similar story, in that it really appears as a modem to the computer. Naturally, though, some issues may arise if the device in question is a bit onthe Windows-centric side. ^^;
On the other hand, my RAZR V3 can't charge in my Windows machine without looking high and low for a driver, yet charges like a charm in Linux for some reason. ^.^
That's good :)
WAAAH!!! Bella-san is gone! ;^0^;
However,....
I too am curious about OSX cube, as I've only seen it during installation and while using Parallels. Hopefully a long-running Mac user.... ^___^
*stares at Tsubashi-dono*
*glances at Aurora-sama*
...can shed some light on this. -v-
Anno...
To tell the truth, I'm not entirely certain what you are talking about ^^'
I know that I use a separate app which is sorta a mix between Beryl and Leopard's Spaces, but that's hardly standard. There is the fast user switching (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/fastuserswitching) effect, if that's what you are thinking of...
Though, looking at what apple has patented somewhat recently, it would appear that they intend to allow for multiple dashboard areas, allowing for tabbed manipulation or geometrical (aka, cubes)
Dashboard on a cube? Interesting indeed. ^.^
Sou sou,... it's something like that user switching thingie....
I know that when I'm switching to full-screen mode in Parallels, it pulls the cube on me in order to transition to the other OS. ^___^
I take it all that other stuff you mentioned is for Leopard-chan. ^v^
Any mention at all of perhaps,... say,.... tablet functionality? ^.^'
Ah, yes. All for leopard-chan ^-^
QuoteAny mention at all of perhaps,... say,.... tablet functionality? ^.^'
Well, Apple has a a patent for a tablet Mac since May 10th, 2005. (US Design Patent No. D504,899, specifically) but obviously hasn't done much with it. Till they do, there is always Modbooks (http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ModBook), I guess ^^'
*pouts* Meeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh..... it's just not the same..... -____________-
*enthusiasm deflates*
Mo... .I'll never get my Tablet Mac at this rate.... -.-
Might as well just get an OpenMoko, although it sounds like something unhygienic in spanish.... -____________-
[sigh] I want a Mac too...
What do you use in the meantime, Tux #2? ^__^
Okay... I'm back with more problems for you guys. Hope nobody minds. ^^;
My scanner has been wacked out for the last year and I can't figure out why. I click on the program that gets the scanner working and it gives me a message saying it can't start it. I was hoping to keeling re-installing the program a last resort. Any ideas before doing so would help. ^^
Would that be on Hacchan or MEchan? ^^;
BTW, everything in Windows claims to resolve itself with reinstallation (especially if it's just TWAIN scanner drivers and such....), so don't see why that would be a problem.... ^.^
(I'd be more worried about it NOT working.... ^___^;)
Sorry, I don't have a ME. But sometimes, it feels like I do. XD
I see. I just wanted to make sure. I always keep re-installing as a last resort just to see if there are any other options to choose from. I'll get my mom to re-install it for me since I have no clue where the hell she put the install CD. ^^;
BTW, is 98SE Hacchan or Secchan? I tend to get the two confused. ^^;
Sorry, meant to write "MCE". ^^;
And I guess it'd be more obvious if I called the bottle opener wielder "98SEcchan" rather than "Secchan". ^.~
Rather certain 98SE is Secchan (SEcchan, maybe) but I'm not sure. I get them confused too ^^'
Anyways, I'll assume you have tried restarting the application, tested an alternate program, and rebooted, correct?
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Oh, nevermind. Senpai beat me to it.
Quote from: "C-Chan"Sorry, meant to write "MCE". ^^;
And I guess it'd be more obvious if I called the bottle opener wielder "98SEcchan" rather than "Secchan". ^.~
No worries. ^.^
Ah, I see. I never actually noticed that in her name!
Well, to make thing easy,
(http://www.l33tsig.net/sig/1/Ragenule.png)
I actually have 3 more HDDs, but I had limited space so..
I have a triboot with WinXP home, Win2k, and FedoreCore 7.
I also have a Virtual PC installation of 98 and 3.1. >w<
P.S.: My XP pro's bootscreen!: Here (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41290880/?qo=9&q=XP+tan&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5)
I installed Vistan 64-bit to check it out, but I was less than impressed because she won't play games properly. They run, but really slow sometimes. So I won't be using that anytime soon. Back to XP-tan for the time being.
QuoteI actually have 3 more HDDs, but I had limited space so..
I have a triboot with WinXP home, Win2k, and FedoreCore 7.
I also have a Virtual PC installation of 98 and 3.1. >w<
Ma Brother From Another Mother!! ^v^
*hugs Ragenule*
That tears it,... I'm gonna make my Distro of the Evening Fedora Core and I'm gonna love it....! ^0^
*starts downloading ISO*
QuoteI installed Vistan 64-bit to check it out, but I was less than impressed because she won't play games properly. They run, but really slow sometimes. So I won't be using that anytime soon. Back to my Miggies and XP-tan for the time being.
Had to correct a spelling mistake there for you, ol' buddy..... ^___^
Don't worry, happens to the best of us! ^v^
C-chan, and silentbob - you have the point.
Anyways, Vista really did boot up on my system fine, but one thing I hate about Vista; my GeForce 7x driver kept crashing. So I had to use s***ty driver - it was sucky - but I still was able to run Aero. (it still has aliases around the 3D Windows Flip - you can access the Windows Flip by pressing Ctrl+Win+Tab - or was it Alt+Win+Tab?)
And, it kept sucking my RAM dry, which was the reason I had to put 1GB DDR400 on my motherboard as soon as it arrived. (I used Vista on Athlon XP before I bought Athlon 64.)
Now... I'm currently using Windows 2000 SP4. (But I'm developing my own homemade OS, GreenOmega OS. It's being mentioned by my own thread, "If you could design an OS....")
Fufu,... You do realize, of course, that the abbreviated name of your OS would be "GOOS", right.......? ^___^
(http://www.freenaturepictures.com/assets/images/lores/whitegoose.jpg)
it kinda occurred to me just now.... ^.^
Yeah. But I'm still using Windows 2000. Anyways, I like 200-tan, she looked so nice and professional, not to mention her naughty side...
*sigh*
Just a joke really,... or more an implicit recommendation for a mascot for Green Omega OS. -v-
Just like Linux has a penguin, GreenOmega would have a goose? ^__^
Yes? No? Maybe?
Okay, I'll shut up now.... -v-
Quote from: "C-Chan"
Had to correct a spelling mistake there for you, ol' buddy..... ^___^
Don't worry, happens to the best of us! ^v^
Yeah, how could I forget. ;107
I'll have to blame it on the hangover.
Nah, I don't care. It would be funny if it was Donald duck. Or a happy wombat, eh? (look at my avatar - a happy wombat!)
User: Thrmin
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
> Manufacturer : Hewlett-Packard (Model Pavilion)
> Chipset : ATI Radeon RS480
> Processor : AMD Athlon 64 3500+ @ 2200 MHz
> Physical Memory : 1024 MB (2 x 512 DDR-SDRAM )
> Video Card : ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X300 Series <---- Not good
> Hard Disk : ST3200822AS (200 GB)
> Hard Disk : SEAGATE (250 GB)
> DVD-Rom Drive : HP DVD Writer 640b
> DVD-Rom Drive : IDE-DVD ROM 6116
> Monitor Type : Hewlett Packard hp f1723 - 17 inches
> Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter
> Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
> DirectX : Version 9.0c
> Processor Temperature : 38 °C
> Mainboard Temperature : 34 °C
> Power/Aux Temperature : 39 °C
> Hard Disk Temperature ST3200822AS : 32 °C
;026
Well, Thrmin - Your CPU's temerature doesn't seem healthy, either. Mine too. But anyways, I'm planning to get better peltier so I could keep it icy cold. And, It's soon time for me to buy an Antec 900 series case (the one with 200mm fan in the top of case) and better heatsink for peltier!
- If you didn't know my tech spec for my computer;
here it is...
* AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2GHz (Socket 754)
* Biostar K8T800-A7A motherboard
* BFGTech GeForce 7600GS 512MB DDR2 (AGP video card - with
PCI-Express bridge chipset)
* two of 512MB DDR400 A-Data RAM
* 20GB IDE hard drive (T-T it sux T-T)
* two DVD burners (Sony and Lite-On)
* one ZIP250 drive
* Ultra 450 watts power supply
* EIGHT FANS!!! (It didn't help that much in the summer heat 8-S)
You should get a new hard drive....
Processor's temperature is normal if it doesn't go over 60°c(intel) and 50°c (amd)
And BTW, im getting a new case... Antec 900 + a new chipset cooler... (temperature over 120°c!!!) ;026
Yeah, I know. But, damn - the SATA hard drives are too expensive - I have limited stipend, because I still have to pay for the stupid rents (my family are so annoying - I could be moving soon!)
Anyways, if I could move to Tokyo, I could be able to get top-notch job and get a nice 1TB hard drive!!
Currently (temporarily, of course, what the hell did you think!?) on a machine with some 1 gig ram, 2.8 processor and Vista Home Basic. It already creeps me out, the paranoid shitwreck of an OS...
I know, Vista's big mess. And GUESS WHAT... NT has hit a limit here. Vista's sh*tty, is just plainly because of NT's already-hidden limit.
(shrugs) |-(
I would wonder, if Microsoft in the future, would end up using GreenOmega OS' kernel (no surprise, several of my project would be open-source.) - I would be surprised that Vienna, or its successor would act much better than Vista and previous version of OS.
Added after 2 minutes:
(In another word, the NT will be totally useless soon enough. You have already witnessed the NT's uselessness in Vista. I meant it.)
Well I wouldn't put it past M$ to try and steal from GOOS. ^^
Just make sure they don't try to slip a software patent on you (that is, unless you live outside the US). ^>^
As far as computers go, I finally found a good home for the old Gateway and HP I refurbished and 'Nixified. ^.^
Aside from helping a few fine citizens who still have never used a computer, I'm also making room for smaller more portable systems. ^___^
First wave shall be.... -v-
(http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/Asus_Eee_701.jpg)
Well, GO-OS may have some open-source software, so you could write any sh*t with the source codes. And, I already knew that µsoft will want something from me, to replace that dying NT, though (I found out that Windows NT 1.0 was made in 1986 - followed by Windows 1.01 so NT's very old than MS-DOS based ones.) - And, I'm ready. Although, the patent's very hard to get - I could see that µsoft COULD have hard time slipping me any patent, because of GNU laws "the Freedom Software" - I wasn't sure about that law, but I was sure that it protected Linux since earlier 90's.
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And, C-Chan, cheer! Cheer for smaller portable computer! I like the idea of a PDA with USB port support and, YEAH!!! Faster cellular networking!
Amen to that, brother!! ^v^
And the Asus EEE PC isn't gonna be alone, as there's already in the works TONS of other cheap ultraportable laptops that'll be released before/after the OLPC. The Chinese and Indian models are of particular interest, since they promise to be even cheaper (currently ~$47 USD for India's so-called "$10 laptop"):
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199203891
As for a PDA with USB support and cellular-style networking (or perhaps even Skype via WiFi),....
Fufufu,... sounds to me like the OpenMoko. ^.^
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UPDATE: I'm currently spending the last few minutes with Gateway-chan and HP-chan.... *sniff*
I thought I wouldn't miss them, but guess I just got attached to my beloved junk computers.... ;^___^;
*sniff sniff*
*sobs*
Gateway-chan isn't quite ready yet, as I still have to load more kid-friendly Linux apps. But the PCLOS-equipped HP-chan is so packed with software, I know she'll make me proud. ;^___^;
C-Chan, you got it right! I'm going to look in OpenMoko. It sound like "interesting", so I'm going to look at.
<_< <_> >_> (Looking for new member, donning on X-ray scope mask) Nah, only cats... T_T No new member yet...
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....BTW, Where can I find a online store that I could buy one? T_T
What, an OpenMoko? Or an X-ray Scope? Or a cat? ^^;
OpenMoko:
http://www.openmoko.com/
X-ray scope
http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Super-Metroid/dp/B00002SVFV
Cats:
http://www.terrific-cats.com/for-sale/
Thank... I needed Openmoko website... =P
@____@ Yet, no new member... T_T
I never really told anyone but.....
....
I'm still using 3.1-tan in my basement.
I think Windows will have to go Unix-like (And not VMS "I can't believe it's not Unix-like" either XD) someday...
I think NT is still useful, see, it's being useful in my XP machine right now ;) . I think Vista would be a fine OS, if, they didn't make it so restrictive and all.
Speaking of Vista, and on a totally unrelated note, MAD magazine (yes I read it XD) had a list of reasons you'll love Windows Vista and they included:
You current OS is running too well (That's XP, baby!)
You long to recapture that feeling of now knowing what the hell you're doing that you had with your first computer.
And last, but not least...
It'll put you closer to converting to Linux!
QuoteI never really told anyone but.....
....
I'm still using 3.1-tan in my basement.
WAAAAAAAAH!!! Withholding information!! ^0^
You're too cruel, iceLilly-san.... I'm gonna have to call in my Peach Juice loan now.... ^___^
*opens mouth in expectation of delicious, cold, refreshing Canadian peach juice* ^0^
QuoteI think Windows will have to go Unix-like (And not VMS "I can't believe it's not Unix-like" either XD) someday...
Whelp,... I hate repeating myself but....
http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/default.mspx
I should also point out that they're pacts with Novell, Xandros and Linspire heightens the possibility of a Windows/Linux-hybrid... thingie. -v-
And I think I'll go read a MAD magazine now.... ^>^
Quote from: "C-Chan"QuoteI never really told anyone but.....
....
I'm still using 3.1-tan in my basement.
WAAAAAAAAH!!! Withholding information!! ^0^
You're too cruel, iceLilly-san.... I'm gonna have to call in my Peach Juice loan now.... ^___^
*opens mouth in expectation of delicious, cold, refreshing Canadian peach juice* ^0^
*pours in juice*
Better? ^__^
3.1....cool!
I wish I had a vintage OS lying around XD
Here I am with 98 as my family's first OS...
Added after 45 minutes: QuoteI should also point out that they're pacts with Novell, Xandros and Linspire heightens the possibility of a Windows/Linux-hybrid... thingie. -v-
If it was open source, and Unix-like, I'd adopt that...thingy...
Even if it was a Monster XD
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Lindows
Quote from: "Bella"3.1....cool!
I wish I had a vintage OS lying around XD
Here I am with 98 as my family's first OS...
My family's first computer was actually a Mac! ^.^ My parents told me I was always on it XD Then, my parents bought 3.1-tan in '94. I was about 3 years old. X3 Broke the floppy drive when I was 7 when I shoved a Pokemon card in it. That was a stupid idea. XD
Quote*pours in juice*
Better? ^__^
Suffice to say, I'm in heaven!!!!!!! ^V^
*floats off, singing 'Memories'*
QuoteIf it was open source, and Unix-like, I'd adopt that...thingy...
Even if it was a Monster XD
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Lindows
OMG, that was twisted... ^____^;
I especially like the parade of Commie Tuxes.... ^^;
QuoteMy family's first computer was actually a Mac! ^.^ My parents told me I was always on it XD Then, my parents bought 3.1-tan in '94. I was about 3 years old. X3 Broke the floppy drive when I was 7 when I shoved a Pokemon card in it. That was a stupid idea. XD
Tsk tsk tsk... ^.^
On the other hand, maybe you were clairvoyant enough to know that, in the not so distant future, floppy drives would be next to useless..... ^___^
In any event, my first computer (not really mine though) was an Atari 8-bit, but I do have fond memories of the old Macs. I can still taste the Oregon Trail..... ^__________^
*sigh*
^ I used to play the Oregon Trail on Hacchan. I'd always die before the end, XD
Icelilly, awesome your family's first computer was a Mac!
And, 3.1-tan was always nice to play around with. Yeah, I ran it in Pentium 3 1.4GHz PC - it ran pretty good!! Except for graphic driver - it was annoying so I had to make device driver out of Win98 graphic driver - after all, it's still wonderful to play with vintage OS! ;001
Quote from: "C-Chan"QuoteMy family's first computer was actually a Mac! ^.^ My parents told me I was always on it XD Then, my parents bought 3.1-tan in '94. I was about 3 years old. X3 Broke the floppy drive when I was 7 when I shoved a Pokemon card in it. That was a stupid idea. XD
Tsk tsk tsk... ^.^
On the other hand, maybe you were clairvoyant enough to know that, in the not so distant future, floppy drives would be next to useless..... ^___^
I never knew much as a child about computers. I used to think they were toys. XD Hell, I didn't even know what a floppy drive was until my mother told me!
I ran Windows 3.0 with on a 286 @ 10 MHz with 640kb RAM. Didn't run all to bad, but I had no real use for it tho. Most of the stuff I used ran in DOS anyways.
(Is there a 3.0-tan by the way, I don't think I ever saw one).
There will be,... although it's just gonna be a genkier 3.1-sama in a much younger form. ^^;
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11364/3.1-tan_crarh.jpg)
Hey, come to think of it why is there no 3.0-tan?
: /
Microsoft had to delay it, though... T_T It wasn't until 1992 when they released this OS... <_<
>_> Devo-style 3.0-sama? <_<
Anyways, Devo was popular in Japan (I wasn't sure, though - but for their bizaree personalities...)
Quote from: "Bella"Hey, come to think of it why is there no 3.0-tan?
: /
Don't laugh but...
I've never heard of Windows 3.0...
A question for C-Chan...
Would Win 3.0-tan be a separate -tan from 3.1? And would she be a Vintage-tan :D
I'm sure Senpai has a much better answer to that, but I know the idea has been bopped around, since the two are essentially entirely different OSes.
Plus, since Senpai just barely said 'there will be,' I'd bet that they are seperate ^-^
Just a guess
Yes, both are different OS. -_-
3.0-tan has no network supports, while 3.1 does.
And, 3.0-tan has only fewer programs and somewhat flaky i386 CPU controller (the one that manage RAM sizes - I found that it can use up to 2GB as long as CPU's chugging at 32-bit mode - it crashes on Long Mode...)
while 3.1 has better softwares.
QuoteDon't laugh but...
I've never heard of Windows 3.0...
No problem, few people have heard the history of Windows past 3.1-sama. It's actually intentional,....
...Cause before 3.1-sama, there are a whole bunch of other systems and little inconvenient details that the Big M doesn't want you to remember. ^_________^;
Hence the reason I claim their silence to be quite conspiratory. ^.^
QuoteWould Win 3.0-tan be a separate -tan from 3.1? And would she be a Vintage-tan
I'm actually in the process of drawing her with 2.0-chan as we speak (well not really, cause there's other commissions work on.) ^^;
I definitely will NOT make her a separate OS-tan, as I stand firm on my decision to just make her a younger version (circa 5 years old) of 3.1-sama (separating 3.2-tan is okay since she's just 3.1-sama's cute Chinese alter ego). ^.^
However, although it's too late now given the impossibility of me working on a manga, I did intend her to be alomst like a completely different character. 3.0-tan would be her as a happy, vibrant, bubbly, playful and hopeful young girl, with a loving family who she adored beyond imagining. However, she would've also been very susceptible to suggestions, never questioning any dirt Father may have given her about OS/2-neechan and always taking to heart any praise of her own superiority. Encouraged to be naive and loyal, she would work hard to make Father proud, even if it meant committing to some "reeducation" and ultimately turning a blind eye, a deaf ear and shut tongue to the dissolution of her family. In that sense, I sorta wanted to create a rhyme and reason as to why she's so emotionless now, given what she's tried to hide for well over 15 years.
I also wanted to make it understandable why she and 2.0-chan can never appear together comfo
rtably at this time, since it would lead to a very awkward and sad confrontation. If you feel daring enough to bring a comparison of Anakin and Darth Vader, you wouldn't be 100% wrong (although I would definitely recommend a better analogy... ^^; ).
You got the point, C-Chan. (Good pig! *pat on head*)
Quote from: "C-Chan"QuoteDon't laugh but...
I've never heard of Windows 3.0...
No problem, few people have heard the history of Windows past 3.1-sama. It's actually intentional,....
...Cause before 3.1-sama, there are a whole bunch of other systems and little inconvenient details that the Big M doesn't want you to remember. ^_________^;
Hence the reason I claim their silence to be quite conspiratory. ^.^
Ah, I see. So it was intentional. I was little at the time so I really don't really remember anything before 3.1-tan (Except for the DOS).
Well, I haven't seen Windows 3.1 until I was 12 years old.. ;_;
I now have a copy of Windows 3.1 on my computer - zipped up nicely.
And, as for me, I could remember OS/2 when I was 1 years old. (it was 1989 when my family had the first computer - it was sucky, it had Intel 386SX.)
Quote from: "Dr. Mario"Well, I haven't seen Windows 3.1 until I was 12 years old.. ;_;
I now have a copy of Windows 3.1 on my computer - zipped up nicely.
And, as for me, I could remember OS/2 when I was 1 years old. (it was 1989 when my family had the first computer - it was sucky, it had Intel 386SX.)
I still have the floppy disk for installing 3.1-tan. XD
Hmm... That might of been the computer my parents bought in 80s. Of course, I'm not too sure about the actual year since i wasn't born until 1991. ^^; Too bad my parents got rid of it. I would of loved to see it. ;-;
I do have a copy, ya know. ^__^
I just have to use DOSBox or VirtualBox to make sure it works... -v-
While I'm at it, I might even trying using 2.0-chan. ^.^
I know. I ran into several problems, though. I will try and install 2.0-Chan onto ZIP disk (which I will boot fro floppy disk.) soon enough.
Primary Computer: HP running Windows XP Pro & Linux Fedora & Linux Ubuntu
Secondary Computer: Compaq running Windows ME
Tertiary Computer: Random computer running Windows 95 & MS-DOS
Quaternary: Olidata running Windows 3.1
Quinary: Random computer not running
I also had an Amiga... I think it's still working...
Then you should indeed investigate the possibility of resurrecting that Amiga. :p
I'm in the need of some help you guys. ;_;
I just re-installed the Epson Scan program that gets the scanner to work. But even though I re-installed it, it still won't work! Am I doing something wrong?
QuoteI also had an Amiga... I think it's still working...
AMIGA-SAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11498/mini463.jpg)(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11498/mini464.jpg)(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11498/mini466.jpg)(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11498/mini467.jpg)(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11498/mini459.jpg)
YES YES YES!!!!!!!! REVIVE REVIVE REVIVE HER!!!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!! ;^V^;
NEED MONEY? HERE!! ^0^
*tosses â,¬1,000,000 in K****ij's direction*
Lilly-san, you know what that means? Time to make an Amiga-tan stamp too!! ^0^
QuoteI just re-installed the Epson Scan program that gets the scanner to work. But even though I re-installed it, it still won't work! Am I doing something wrong?
Oh wait, you have a problem that impairs creation of an Amiga-tan stamp... ;___;
No problemo.... ^__^
Let's get that silly scanner working so you can resume your masterful Amiga Stamp Processing unhindered! ^.^
*starts researching*
Added after 3 minutes: Actually, should've asked for model number of that Epson scanner and stuff.... ^__^'
And also, is that for your Hacchan computer or your Moseko (MCE) one? ^^
I'm thinking that CD is not properly installing your TWAIN driver, so I think we'll need to manually install the latest one.
Can't verify due to this fiendish company firewall, but consider this download for an Epson TWAIN USB Scanner driver specifically designed for Windows 98:
http://www.download.com/Epson-TWAIN-USB-Scanner-Driver/3000-2118_4-906909.html
YIPPE FOR AMIGA-TAN!!! -V- (caw)
I never have used AMIGA PC, though.
I heard it had most stable OS
(64 bit version AROS is floating around too) *_*
I do say, you've got great tastes Doc! ^___^
Oh, and glad you reminded me of AROS-chan,... I have to get a rendition of her alongside MorphOS-chan done soon.... ^.^;
*trots off to draw*
Yess, Draw! Draw to conquer the world!!!!!
(1.0-tan - in the shadow) Hee... You're weird, Doc!
Huh?
(1.0-tan) ;018 Huh? What....
.... uh-oh.
(1.0-tan) Work! Work!
T_T I have nothing to work...
(1.0-tan) Say hello to C-chan for me, hee.. *walks off*
Whew...
Quote from: "C-Chan"QuoteI just re-installed the Epson Scan program that gets the scanner to work. But even though I re-installed it, it still won't work! Am I doing something wrong?
Oh wait, you have a problem that impairs creation of an Amiga-tan stamp... ;___;
No problemo.... ^__^
Let's get that silly scanner working so you can resume your masterful Amiga Stamp Processing unhindered! ^.^
*starts researching*
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Actually, should've asked for model number of that Epson scanner and stuff.... ^__^'
And also, is that for your Hacchan computer or your Moseko (MCE) one? ^^
I'm thinking that CD is not properly installing your TWAIN driver, so I think we'll need to manually install the latest one.
Can't verify due to this fiendish company firewall, but consider this download for an Epson TWAIN USB Scanner driver specifically designed for Windows 98:
http://www.download.com/Epson-TWAIN-USB-Scanner-Driver/3000-2118_4-906909.html
Hehe... Never mind. It turns out that all I needed to do was restart my computer. That's the one thing I forgot to do after the re-installation. ^^;
Awesome Blossom! ^^
10-4! All clear for Amiga-tan Stamp creation!!! ^v^
FUN TRIVIA: FYI, about 1% of all transactions in Linux require a restart (and usually that's just restarting the graphics server, not the whole machine itself). ^.^
Quote(1.0-tan) Say hello to C-chan for me, hee.. *walks off*
Oooh,... would that be Windows 1.0 or Mac System 1.0? ^__^
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=756
yeah, I now gots one of those. Very bad ass. Ive already loaded a few useful apps on it..like google maps, opera, a new media player, and stuff of the sort.. now i saw a link online that would let me load it with palm os but that would just be nutty.
Quote from: "Kshitij"Primary Computer: HP running Windows XP Pro & Linux Fedora & Linux Ubuntu
Secondary Computer: Compaq running Windows ME
Tertiary Computer: Random computer running Windows 95 & MS-DOS
Quaternary: Olidata running Windows 3.1
Quinary: Random computer not running
I also had an Amiga... I think it's still working...
Ué Paisà ...
Quote from: "Dr. Mario"
YIPPE FOR AMIGA-TAN!!! -V- (caw)
I never have used AMIGA PC, though.
I heard it had most stable OS
(64 bit version AROS is floating around too) *_*
Nope... ;014
It is stable as long as other OSes.
It is beautiful because it requires only a few system files to run (almost only 40), so you can check at a sight, if there are malware running.
It runs with few resources, so leaves almost all CPU % idle free, and almost all RAM memory free...
A typical AmigaOS or MorphOS installation picks up 17 to 24 megabyte on your hard disk (MEGA-byte not GIGA-Byte)...
You can backup entire system by simply issuing a file by file COPY "all" command from the text based interface, starting from one partition to another partition.
It has an emebdded script language AREXX (As OS/2 Rexx), which is capable to parse data from one program to anoher program...
For example you can pick up an image from screen memory of DeluxePaint program, and thru arexx you can pass it to ImageFx, which has Filters capabilities... turn the entire image in EMBOSS filter, and turn it back to DeLuxe Paint...
Or even you can use ARexx and pass visual data from a paint program which don't saves TIFF or JPEG to another program which saves it in all formats...
Also thru ARexx you can explore and list a directory of files, apply filter transformations to it all, and save it again all renamed, or queue renamed file001, file002, file003, etc.
Or finally for example you can join a list of image or text files and compose an Animation, or a book all using ARexx... ;012 ;010
Again it has another wonderful feature:
To see new standard files, for example vector SVG, or Windows AVI, you can just add new DATATYPES, svg.datatype, or avi.datatype, and all system will be capable to see, run, and modify these new kind of filetypes...
Two are major flaws of AmigaOS:
1) It lacks of multiuser capabilites (all people can see your data and run your programs)...
2) It lacks of memory protection (if a program allocates its data in memory occupied by data from another program, or even overwrite memory allocated by another program itself, then the system crashes) ;026
Actually AmigaOS 4.0 had gained virtualization and Memory protection, but you can't use it, due to old programs of Amiga (many are still used) don't support it.
So the next version of AmigaOS will introduce a sandbox, in which old programs will run, with their address space.
Then if old programs will overwrite memory and crash, then it will crash only the sandbox, and not the entire system.
Again Amiga it is beautiful because it has multitasking preemptive capabilities (round-robin algorythm), with message passing without made use of MMU (it not existed MMU when AmigaOS was created), full 32bit design.
If unluckily a program crashes and take down the machine, it reboots in lesser than 5/10 seconds.
It has not secrets, and does not spies you user, as Windows with Windows media Player...
Does not run unwanted services hidden in Kernel space...
It requires no degree in Computer Science as Linux.
(you will learn how AmigaOS works in lesser than 2 or three hours.
You can made first modifies in the sequence of boot, and change its aspect and structure in less than a week.
And in less than 1 month, if you study it well, you are ready to do dirty tricks to the OS.)
it can be completerly personalized in the GUI interface, in the text interface (keyboard driven text interface DOS, or visual GUI interface Workbench are both inter-depending each other), or you can even choice an alternative GUI (Directory Opus, Scalos (http://scalos.noname.fr/)
Directory Opus evolved from being a lister window, with programmable buttons:
http://amiga.emucamp.com/diropus4_2.gif
To a complete environment in which you controls all the aspect of the OS,
http://wfmh.org.pl/projects/pl/img/galeria/dopus5.gif
And with DirOpus you could even use remote directories to copy files better than FTP...
The remote directories on internet are seen as they were remote peripherals...
http://amikit.amiga.sk/image/screenshot/amikit_10.jpg
See the assign window on the left of this image:
Into that window are listed assigned directories.
Into Amiga any directory could be assigned to became a virtual device, so, for example, you could assign yourdata directory to became yourdata: where colon ":" indicates that entire system will locate absolute your directory and introduced it into the load or save file requester of any program as it were a real hardware device.)
And mainly and finally... it is you that control the AmigaOS and say it to do what you want to...
...And it is not the opposite, that you are forced to accomplish what the OS wants from YOU, as happens into Windows.
Now, say me that this is too much lesser features for your tastes...
Quote from: "Raffaele the Amigan"
Ué Paisà ...
Saluti da Verona!!!
I know, that was why the Amiga OS was being disassembly, to perform coding surgery (to correct those heart-stopping problems - they even put in Long Mode coding) - I wasn't 100% sure until I try it on my Athlon 64 system (I do have a spare hard drive.)
I finally found my floppy disk for installing 3.1-sama. I just want to drop by at my school (when school starts again) and install Windows 3.1 on one of their Windows 98 computers and see what happens. But chances are, I probably won't do it. >_<
Try it on a home computer first. Nevertheless, it's a cool idea. Fear the reverse installing!
Quote from: "NewYinzer"Try it on a home computer first. Nevertheless, it's a cool idea. Fear the reverse installing!
*puts up "Fear the Reverse Installing" banner*
I probably won't do it since they say that they moniter what the students do. But they certainly don't do a good job of it. >_< If that was true, then they would know that their Windows 98 computers were filled adware and spyware. *sigh*
Just installed 3.0 under Dosbox again. :P
I'm scrounging around for 3.1-sama, not sure if I still have her. Though maybe some of my friends do.
*reads Raffaele's LONG description about Amiga*
I - LOVE - YOU - MIGGY-SAN!!!!!!!! ^V^
Soooo...... like, when are we going to rescue her from the EVIL clutches of those Amiga, Inc. bastards, and GPL her? ^__^
QuoteI know, that was why the Amiga OS was being disassembly, to perform coding surgery (to correct those heart-stopping problems - they even put in Long Mode coding) - I wasn't 100% sure until I try it on my Athlon 64 system (I do have a spare hard drive.)
It's no wonder they call you Doc, Doc. ^^;
Quote
I probably won't do it since they say that they moniter what the students do. But they certainly don't do a good job of it. >_< If that was true, then they would know that their Windows 98 computers were filled adware and spyware. *sigh*
Oh, that's common place for Windows 98, so they probably assume that's just a feature.... *chortle chortle* ^__________^
But yes, as AmigaBob said, consider downloading DOSBox instead:
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1
Like with Virtualbox, you can try out all those old programs (or in this case OSes) without fear of blowing up your computer (and within the relative safety of your MCE-tan). ^^
BTW, with Virtualbox, you can do the same but with modern OSes (e.g., Linux). ^.^
Quote from: "C-Chan"Quote
I probably won't do it since they say that they moniter what the students do. But they certainly don't do a good job of it. >_< If that was true, then they would know that their Windows 98 computers were filled adware and spyware. *sigh*
Oh, that's common place for Windows 98, so they probably assume that's just a feature.... *chortle chortle* ^__________^
Lets hope not! But really, I think my school should replace their 98s. I think they have all done their time. But what's really funny is that their 98s log on faster then Saseko-sama does. XD
I'm using a Toshiba Satellite L35 notebook with a dual boot of Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 1.4 Gnarly Gnome and Windows XP Home Edition. I also sometimes run Damn Small Linux from a flash drive.
Just got my new laptop (Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo 1526), and even though I didn't really want it with an OS, it came with XP Media Center.
Aw sweet, a new home for AROS-chan. ^__^
QuoteJust got my new laptop (Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo 1526), and even though I didn't really want it with an OS, it came with XP Media Center.
Ahhhh, how I love the smell of a new computer *sighs*
Speaking about which, i just finished racking up the orders for my new DELTA, and it's gonna be landing on about 3500-4000 SEK (which, i believe, is somewhere around 500$, i believe) excluding the processor, which I foolishly enough bought this spring; if I'd just waited a few months I'd had a Q6600 or something...instead of that E6400 i'll have to settle with now. Ah well, I guess i'll just have to wait for the Nehalem processor ranges to come out next year, and buy a glorious TRUE quad-core processor. ^^
Unless i change something in my lineup of components, here's what DELTA is going to land around...
Intel "Conroe" E6400 2.13GHz CPU
2GB Corsair DDR2 PC6400 RAM
Radeon X1550 512MB GPU
ECS NForce650i SLIT-A Motherboard
Samsung T166 SATA-II 500GB HDD
plus some old stuff that i already have like optical units and wireless card. Good thing, the Conroes are VERY overclock-friendly, and the ECS motherboard I've chosen is cheap as a brick but still good at it.
*rant*
Oh, and also...
I'm helping my big brother out with setting up a new hard drive on his PC, and things have gone a bit wrong. Meaningly, the hard drive with the XP he was using on died just when he got it for his B'day, and the motherboard is protesting like a flagman in the mud. Meaning, nothing works the way it should. Neither of the optical units work to load an OS disc through, and it's just going REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT all the time. Frankly, we're getting quite tired of it all, and while my bro had some work to do I'm still home to fix it all. We figured it SHOULD work to set up the other old IDE drive into my computer, and then install some sort of rescue OS through it, like puppy (he did, amazingly enough, give in to using linuces for this after some pressure from me. windows fanboy, that guy) and use that to partition and install XP on the computer, but I'd never trust myself on that, so to say...
therefore, i cry "Halp plz!" and turn to ye, just to check what capital fails i've done before i start screwing with parts.
QuoteOh, and also...
I'm helping my big brother out with setting up a new hard drive on his PC, and things have gone a bit wrong. Meaningly, the hard drive with the XP he was using on died just when he got it for his B'day, and the motherboard is protesting like a flagman in the mud. Meaning, nothing works the way it should. Neither of the optical units work to load an OS disc through, and it's just going REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT all the time. Frankly, we're getting quite tired of it all, and while my bro had some work to do I'm still home to fix it all. We figured it SHOULD work to set up the other old IDE drive into my computer, and then install some sort of rescue OS through it, like puppy (he did, amazingly enough, give in to using linuces for this after some pressure from me. windows fanboy, that guy) and use that to partition and install XP on the computer, but I'd never trust myself on that, so to say...
therefore, i cry "Halp plz!" and turn to ye, just to check what capital fails i've done before i start screwing with parts.
Was this a self-built machine?
Yes. And the old IDE drive that died with Saseko in its hands was on 12-something gigs, in case you wanted to know.
*rushes right in*
I think you're asking for help right? ^^;
Yeah, that scenario sounds a lot like what I went through with my bro this weekend (small world, eh?), only his old HD was still functional to an extent.
In any case, let me review the game plan in case I'm understanding this correctly.... ^^
1 - You extract the dead/dying IDE drive from your bro's old computer and insert it into your computer. You already have a Primary IDE drive, so this one would act like a slave. Conversely, you can buy an external hard drive ENCLOSURE for pennies on the dollar and stick it in there, if you want to play it safe (although in fairness, XP may not want to install to an external HD,... not sure). ^__^
2 - You use a Linux LiveCD (preferrably Puppy to backup any data he has in the HD. Fortunately since it's only 12 gigs, these days its feasible to just copy the whole darn thing and then sort it out later in a nice safe stable environment.
3 - PRAY the data is actually retrievable. If Puppy or Knoppix can't do it, it may just be dead forever. There are tools designed to recover data from dead HDs, but I've never used them myself. ^^
Here's where I think I've lost you....
4a - you either use GParted to reformat the HD and stick it back into his old machine to see if it works, or
4b - you get a new IDE drive, reformat it, install XP on it from your machine, then transplant it back to your bro's machine. Not sure how portable Windows is when grafted into a new hardware setup (generally Linux has no problem with this), but sounds like it could work.
5 - when all else fails, maybe it's time for a new MOBO? ^^;
Hmmm~
Sorry, C-Chan, seems i skipped a bit of parts. ^^
1: Dead drive is IDE 12 gb and DEAD. Like, BURNT dead. So no recovering.
2: The new primary drive is a (somewhat risky setup, if you ask me) SATA drive on 250 gb, but since my brother's comp doesn't have any SATA ports he's wired a cable from the master IDE port to a PCI port and has a card simulating the SATA port. The old 150 gb IDE drive is the slave.
So we're hoping to get the OS on the new drive...'n stuff.
I've got a question for you guys....
Is it true that Vista is filled with bugs and problems? My friend told me that BETA version of Vista functions better the official copy of Vista.
Weeeeeell...it all depends on what we mean with "bugs and problems", but if your idea of those include, say, driver problems, program incompatibility, DRM CRAP RAM HOGGING, and random BSOD's, I'd say that, yeah, it is.
Stay away from it, is my advice.
Paradoxically enough, I'm going to cosplay as Vis-kun on the upcoming UppCon:08...
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Weeeeeell...it all depends on what we mean with "bugs and problems", but if your idea of those include, say, driver problems, program incompatibility, DRM CRAP RAM HOGGING, and random BSOD's, I'd say that, yeah, it is.
Stay away from it, is my advice.
Paradoxically enough, I'm going to cosplay as Vis-kun on the upcoming UppCon:08...
Wow... O_O; Good thing I didn't get my free copy of Vista! Then I would of had two computers that I would have to fight with!
QuoteIs it true that Vista is filled with bugs and problems? My friend told me that BETA version of Vista functions better the official copy of Vista.
I've heard similar things. But since Beta versions of Vista are probably a bit hard to come by, I think yes, Vista is filled with problems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_Vista
That said, my catchphrase has become "I'd rather use an abacus than Windows Vista"
XD
That said, there's absolutely no doubt that nothing else M$ than XP-64bit is going on DELTA when it gets done.
QuoteWow... O_O; Good thing I didn't get my free copy of Vista! Then I would of had two computers that I would have to fight with!
Thank goodness!!!
XP may not be as pretty or as "secure" as Vista, but with the right care it works damn well, considering (at least for me it does).
Vista's schizophrenic operation aside, I wouldn't ever use/buy/pirate/game on/play with Vista on principal alone. I wouldn't use it for free; I wouldn't use it if I was payed to. It shows just how much one company can screw up a perfectly fine OS (NT), and (try) to make unholy amounts of money off of it.
Quote from: "Bella"QuoteIs it true that Vista is filled with bugs and problems? My friend told me that BETA version of Vista functions better the official copy of Vista.
I've heard similar things. But since Beta versions of Vista are probably a bit hard to come by, I think yes, Vista is filled with problems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_Vista
Hmm... It says that Vista could be short-lived like ME did... Could that be possible?
Anyways, I think I'll stick to my XP MCE. It functions and does what I want. So, I'm happy. ^__^
MCE? Ah, ah well. Yes, Moseko is definitely going to do a heapload of better work than a scary Vistan on your machines, that's for sure. And they haven't scheduled Vienna/Blackcomb until 2009, but...who knows?
Windows Vienna? I haven't heard of this one before! ^^; Lets hope it won't be as buggy as Vista is.
Windows Vienna, formerly known as Blackcomb, was intended to be the actual next operating system after XP, with Vista/Longhorn only being a small modified fix or update thingie of the latest NT technology.
Learning new stuff every day! ^^
Hmm... Interesting... Makes me wonder if my tech teacher knows about this. ^^
QuoteWindows Vienna, formerly known as Blackcomb, was intended to be the actual next operating system after XP, with Vista/Longhorn only being a small modified fix or update thingie of the latest NT technology.
Learning new stuff every day! ^^
QuoteHmm... Interesting... Makes me wonder if my tech teacher knows about this. ^^
Some have even speculated that Windows 7 (AKA Vienna, FKA Blackcomb ;) ) may use a different, better, kernel than NT (although, IMHO, I don't see it happening...I'm sure the OS is already half designed by now). But a better OS/kernel is nothing if it has bad features that make the good ones useless : |
Still, a possible Unix-like Windows interests the part of me that's a Windows fan, and disconcerts me an a Linux fan. Makes me a little annoyed as an NT fan.
Quote1: Dead drive is IDE 12 gb and DEAD. Like, BURNT dead. So no recovering.
GAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! >V<
*collapses*
Quote2: The new primary drive is a (somewhat risky setup, if you ask me) SATA drive on 250 gb, but since my brother's comp doesn't have any SATA ports he's wired a cable from the master IDE port to a PCI port and has a card simulating the SATA port. The old 150 gb IDE drive is the slave.
So we're hoping to get the OS on the new drive...'n stuff.
GYAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! >V<
*collapses hard*
I'm not even sure if THAT will work, but oh well hope the 250 Gig SATA drive was cheap. ^^'
Well,.... if you plug it in and its visible in yoru BIOS screen, guess it works. I think the worse that can happen to it is that is just won't register in your BIOS startup. -v-
If successful, just sit back and let Puppy-chan take care of the rest. -.-;
Don't forget that if you want Net access, you have to activate it first through the Connect shortcut. (and then you can use Dillo)
QuoteIs it true that Vista is filled with bugs and problems? My friend told me that BETA version of Vista functions better the official copy of Vista.
Oh yeah. ^^
In fact recently, it gave a lot of people quite a number of scares and/or headaches:
http://vista.blorge.com/2007/08/25/wga-server-outage-labels-copies-of-microsoft-windows-xp-and-vista-non-genuine/
QuoteWeeeeeell...it all depends on what we mean with "bugs and problems", but if your idea of those include, say, driver problems, program incompatibility, DRM CRAP RAM HOGGING, and random BSOD's, I'd say that, yeah, it is.
Yeah, that basically sums it up. ^__^
In case you want to read more about the problems with Digital Rights Management (DRM):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sony_BMG_CD_copy_protection_scandal
QuoteWow... O_O; Good thing I didn't get my free copy of Vista! Then I would of had two computers that I would have to fight with!
Windows stuff is never free,... they always insert a hidden cost somewhere. ^.^
QuoteI've heard similar things. But since Beta versions of Vista are probably a bit hard to come by, I think yes, Vista is filled with problems.
*snicker snicker chortle chortle* ^.^
Hard to find.... right.... ^____^
*pats Bella-san's head* ^v^
QuoteXP may not be as pretty or as "secure" as Vista, but with the right care it works damn well, considering (at least for me it does).
Correction, you can make XP look IDENTICAL to Vista right down to the spinning Windows feature.
(forget where the links are, but they're buried somewhere in the Post your Desktop thread).
And I'd venture to guess that it's even MORE secure than Vista, at least the non-SP2's, only because you have less things spying on you (and hence, less security holes open).
QuoteVista's schizophrenic operation aside, I wouldn't ever use/buy/pirate/game on/play with Vista on principal alone. I wouldn't use it for free; I wouldn't use it if I was payed to. It shows just how much one company can screw up a perfectly fine OS (NT), and (try) to make unholy amounts of money off of it.
I think it's about time we nominated Bella-sama to be Governor of NH. ^___^
"Live Bella-like or Die" will be the new state motto! ^.^
QuoteHmm... It says that Vista could be short-lived like ME did... Could that be possible?
Well consider this,... Dell once agreed to drop XP from all its products, but then not long ago demanded to sell it on their machines again.
And Dell of course is a HUGE computer manufacturing company that has a lot of sway, so you know things are bad for Vista if their biggest buyers are that uncomfortable with it. After all, Vista is only selling well because of all the OEM licenses -- that is, manufacturers by the Vista licenses in the millions, then install it on their machines in the hopes of selling it to some hapless consumer. M$ still technically has a Vista "purchase", but that in no way means that the Vista computer actually gets sold...... ^^;
QuoteWindows Vienna? I haven't heard of this one before! ^^; Lets hope it won't be as buggy as Vista is.
Search the gallery for Blackcomb-tan and you'll come across a really cool OS-tan. ^.^
QuoteStill, a possible Unix-like Windows interests the part of me that's a Windows fan, and disconcerts me an a Linux fan. Makes me a little annoyed as an NT fan.
Yes unfortunately, given their cooperative efforts with Novell and Xandros within the past few weeks, the future does seem to paint a picture of some kind of Windows/Linux hybrid thingie. I wonder if SUSE-tan and Xandros-tan will feel the same way as VMS-san when they're over with this. -.-;
Windows XP
Emachine T1120...
Using it, Not by choice. My other comp is out of order because I need a new graphics card for it... but... Its integrated into the Motherboard... -_-
So...yeah... stuck with this one...
QuoteCorrection, you can make XP look IDENTICAL to Vista right down to the spinning Windows feature.
(forget where the links are, but they're buried somewhere in the Post your Desktop thread).
Yes, I could do that but the my XP pride prevents me from doing so. I'll take XP's slightly cheesy GUI (though it's much cooler with a glassy theme like Royale or Zune), thank you ;051
Nah, really, I just don't want to screw with the system files and stuff.
QuoteAnd I'd venture to guess that it's even MORE secure than Vista, at least the non-SP2's, only because you have less things spying on you (and hence, less security holes open).
Waaaa....I have SP2....
(I think I heard they're going to make an XP SP3...I guess I should steer clear...)
QuoteI think it's about time we nominated Bella-sama to be Governor of NH. ^___^
"Live Bella-like or Die" will be the new state motto! ^.^
Funny thing today, we were at an electronics store...my dad walked up to this pretty HP all-in-one (AKA, iMac ripoff) desktop, and he was dotting about how cool it looked and all..."Hey, maybe this'll be my next computer!"
Then I woke it from the screensaver, pointed to the Vista login, and he hurried away XD
(that's the most contact I'll have with Vista...)
QuoteSearch the gallery for Blackcomb-tan and you'll come across a really cool OS-tan. ^.^
Oh, I've seen that one! There's been some talk on Wakachan lately about a Windows 7 design...
QuoteYes unfortunately, given their cooperative efforts with Novell and Xandros within the past few weeks, the future does seem to paint a picture of some kind of Windows/Linux hybrid thingie. I wonder if SUSE-tan and Xandros-tan will feel the same way as VMS-san when they're over with this. -.-;
Again, I'm both really hoping that Windows will someday be Unix-like, but hoping they won't, because they may only prove how much they can mess up a perfectly fine kernel or OS : |
QuoteWindows XP
Emachine T1120...
Using it, Not by choice. My other comp is out of order because I need a new graphics card for it... but... Its integrated into the Motherboard... -_-
So...yeah... stuck with this one...
*Salutes*
I feel I have to salute every emachines owner...hehe...emcahines aren't as bad as most people make them out to be ;)
Quote from: "C-Chan"QuoteWow... O_O; Good thing I didn't get my free copy of Vista! Then I would of had two computers that I would have to fight with!
Windows stuff is never free,... they always insert a hidden cost somewhere. ^.^
Well... When I bought my computer, E-machines was giving out free copies of Vista to anyone who bought their computers. But it was only valid up to a certain date. Which I missed. XD I didn't know what Vista looked liked at the the time so I didn't want to take any chances since if I didn't like it, I wouldn't be able to go back to XP since it was pre-loaded into the machine. Meaning, I have no XP installation CD.
QuoteAnd I'd venture to guess that it's even MORE secure than Vista, at least the non-SP2's, only because you have less things spying on you (and hence, less security holes open).
I'd dare to say that, using the same cautious measures that any intelligent user would take when using a Windows OS, Vista is at least AS SECURE as XP.
Using a firewall, a good antivirus and an anti-spyware program should keep any computer safe enough.
-_-
Quote(though it's much cooler with a glassy theme like Royale or Zune)
oh, Royale...that theme kicks ass.
I never liked Zune, though. Royale Noir looks better :D
Luna it's just too cheesy >_>
Quote from: "Slaven152"Windows XP
Emachine T1120...
Using it, Not by choice. My other comp is out of order because I need a new graphics card for it... but... Its integrated into the Motherboard... -_-
So...yeah... stuck with this one...
Integrated graphic cards suck. I'm using one right now =/
....
Don't know If I posted this before, but...
Right now using a Gateway MX6945M Laptop
- 2GB Ram
- Intel Core2Duo @ 1.6ghz
- 160 GB HDD
- Intel 945GM Integrated Graphics chipset =/
- Windows Vista Home Premium.
0 BSOD, 0 Crashes and 0 compatibility problems until now. No sign of DRM or "calling home".
RAM used by "default" at Startup: 450mb. Win XP eats 350mb in my old 1GB pc. And yes, I disabled any other programs aside Windows services in both XP and Vista.
So, yar point? Vista works perfectly when it comes as the default OS on a new PC. Though, I wouldn't recommend installing it in an old computer, since there may be some problems with the drivers.
QuoteIn fact recently, it gave a lot of people quite a number of scares and/or headaches:
You people really hate Vista. XP had the same problems. Blame them both in that case. -_-
QuoteI never liked Zune, though. Royale Noir looks better
Royale Noir was an aftermarket theme, though, so I never used it...
Yes, complete wuss when it comes to UXTheme patching >__<
QuoteYou people really hate Vista. XP had the same problems. Blame them both in that case. -_-
As for XP's problems vs. Vista, I don't think I've ever seen the kind of bad press against one OS. I mean in XP's case, there's technical articles here and there but with Vista, even a lot of mainstream news outlets have had articles reporting these things.
I still think most people are too attached/comfortable/happy with to XP to want to give it up for anything less than a spectacular OS ;)
If Vista does what you want and it works for you, go for it; Just as I have heard horror stories (and witnessed a few myself) about XP and I don't understand what the problem is.
The bottom line is that you're happy with your OS :)
Bella-san ought to get a medal, just for being so generally nice all the time. ^_^
Quote from: "Bella"QuoteYou people really hate Vista. XP had the same problems. Blame them both in that case. -_-
As for XP's problems vs. Vista, I don't think I've ever seen the kind of bad press against one OS. I mean in XP's case, there's technical articles here and there but with Vista, even a lot of mainstream news outlets have had articles reporting these things.
I still think most people are too attached/comfortable/happy with to XP to want to give it up for anything less than a spectacular OS ;)
If Vista does what you want and it works for you, go for it; Just as I have heard horror stories (and witnessed a few myself) about XP and I don't understand what the problem is.
The bottom line is that you're happy with your OS :)
I'm also going to have to agree with Bella-san on this one. If you like Vista, then go with it. If you like XP, then go with XP. I still love my 3.1 so I asked my dad to keep in and put it in the basement. But the sad part is that the screen is officially broken so my 3.1 will probably be never used ever again. But I still love it. ^__^ *hugs* I also still love my 98SE. Just... I wish it still worked properly... ;__;
Quote from: "Bella"QuoteI never liked Zune, though. Royale Noir looks better
Royale Noir was an aftermarket theme, though, so I never used it...
Yes, complete wuss when it comes to UXTheme patching >__<
uh? aftermarket? I installed it along Royale.
And I never dared to apply the UXTheme, I don't know why >_>.
Quote
As for XP's problems vs. Vista, I don't think I've ever seen the kind of bad press against one OS. I mean in XP's case, there's technical articles here and there but with Vista, even a lot of mainstream news outlets have had articles reporting these things.
I still think most people are too attached/comfortable/happy with to XP to want to give it up for anything less than a spectacular OS ;)
If Vista does what you want and it works for you, go for it; Just as I have heard horror stories (and witnessed a few myself) about XP and I don't understand what the problem is.
The bottom line is that you're happy with your OS :)
Well, the bad press may be due to the fact that Vista didn't fulfilled many of the expectations. Microsoft promised too many things, and didn't accomplished all of them.
When XP was released, there were some people that preferred to stay with 2k due to the fact that XP occupied more memory, supposedly less stable, more security holes, etc. I think I started to see a decline in "XP complain/help plz" after SP2. And yes, it never reached the level of "Vista haet", but I guess it's all due to the hype generated with Vista.
Many people are paranoid about DRM, but I have yet to find a case of Vista DRM in use. And I don't think DRM will be enabled some time in the future, due to legal reasons (?). But well, it's a valid reason to avoid Vista.
The "ZOMG HUEG ammounts of RAM Vista uses" its another argument, but the difference between Vista and XP consume isn't really great. As I said, my startup it's just 100 mb more than XP. And, in exchange of some new process like the search indexer, It's worth it.
It's been proved that Vista it's slighty less effective in using games than XP, but, after all the reviews I have read, no one it's completely sure if its due to the OS or inefficient drivers.
Compatibility, while I have not experienced any problems, may be a problem, since some hardware may not work due to lack of proper drivers.
And problems with activation are usual since XP. Hell, I had the same problem once when trying to activate an original XP copy.
And remember that Vista hasn't received yet a SP ;)
...
Although my post looks like propaganda, no, I don't recommend you to replace Windows XP with Vista :D. IMHO, the only feature that make Vista worth the installation its the File indexer built into the OS (never liked Google Desktop. Too much RAM). However, for someone who's buying a new computer, Vista it's not a bad OS.
Of course, as you said, everyone it's free to use the OS they like. :P
And yes, I'm happy with my OS :)
P.S: nice avatar
Quoteuh? aftermarket? I installed it along Royale.
And I never dared to apply the UXTheme, I don't know why >_>.
Huh...did you get it from Softpedia...?
QuoteAnd problems with activation are usual since XP. Hell, I had the same problem once when trying to activate an original XP copy.
That's one of the problems I never figured out. I never had one problem w/ activation....
QuoteOf course, as you said, everyone it's free to use the OS they like. :P
And yes, I'm happy with my OS
And that's all that matters, cause your the one who has to use your computer :)
QuoteBella-san ought to get a medal, just for being so generally nice all the time.
I always hated it when those OS zealots would say "well, you shouldn't be using
that OS" or "my OS is much better than yours" because everybody has a different view of what a good OS is. What one person hates might work perfectly for another.
Guess what minna!
My tech teacher told me that our 98s in one of the computer labs are going to be replaced with new computers! ^__^ But I'm not sure if it will have Vista or XP Pro like the rest of the computers do. *is all curious*
Why that's fancy! Hope for the best, Lilly-san! You never know what might come of it!!! ^-^
And also, in other news...
MAH DELTA IZZA-MAH COMIIIIIIN~!!! ï½·ï¾€â"â"â"â"â"â"(ﾟ∀ﾟ)â"â"â"â"â"â" !!!!
(and yes, i ripped that off #fortune just for the heck of it, now stop laughing at me)
She'll be arriving 3 packages: one with the chassi, all the way from france, in some 3 days; one with the graphics card, which should come tomorrow, and one biggie with the motherboard, DVD drive, RAM, and HDD, which should be home by sunday or monday, depending on how lazy they are. Which means that ON NEXT TUESDAY I CAN START BUILDING SHIT!!! ï½·ï¾€â"â"â"â"â"â"(ﾟ∀ﾟ)â"â"â"â"â"â" !!!!
DRM....!? O___O
RIAA...?! O___O
Copyrights....!? O___O
I have tried using Vista on my computer. It was cool, until PITA nag screen comes in, that made me gritty along the edge. So I decided Windows 2000 will be here for a while until I just put my own homemade OS, GreenOmega 64 in. Vista just made me cry - I excepted that to be stable but cool OS, now it's trash worthing six years of nothingness (Remember WinFS? That was what I f***ing wanted in Vista. Another gigantic disappointment from Microsoft... T___T)
Hopefully my homemade OS turns out better than Windows... T-T
BTW, NejinOniwa, I'm happy for you too! ^___^
(trotting around in my laboratory, booting demon robot up -
MWA-HAHA!!! uh-oh... I forgot it has Me in it. O_O)
My school just got the new computers up and running! They have XP Pro on them. I wonder what the did with the old 98s?
You hit the jackpot, then, i guess! Good lucky!
SASEKO!!! Whooo!!!
Thank goodness you got XP. Cause today I got to try Vista for the first time...Disclaimer, these are my personal preferences and thoughts, I only used it for a half an hour so I'm no expert. I don't mean piss off any Vista users, if you like it, that's your opinion to have.
Good news: The GUI is beautiful, Window Flip is better in real life. It's fairly fast, and didn't seem to be a "trainwreck" like the non-NT Windows OSs of yore...
Bad news...where do I begin? I guess at the bootup. I just don't like it. I mean, what bootup on earth doesn't have the name of it's OS on it -__-
The GUI is pretty, but it gets a little busy after awhile. I seem to find the XP GUI (with a glassy theme, of course) so much simpler, intuitive, and easier on the eyes.
I was constantly having Beryl flashbacks XD Although I can't say whether Beryl inspired Aero's minimized window previews, and the light-up min/max/close bar, or vice versa...Window Flip was really cool, I'd be neat to see a plugin like that for Beryl...
"Permission to continue?" I can't say it was a huge pain, but it certainly was annoying. When I tried to run Windows Defender, Vista informed me that Windows Defender wasn't running. Hey, here's a thought, that's why I'm asking it to open. Then the screen darkened dramatically, and it asked if I was sure to run Windows Defender. Gosh, it's pretty persistent, maybe running Defender isn't a good idea...
All and all, playing with Vista re-confirmed that XP is, for me at least, the better Windows OS....
That's good to hear. ^__^
Certainly is more cost-efficient anyway, especially since XP can run any software that's not INTENTIONALLY designed against it. ^.^
I do fear that Service Pack 3 will,....
<__<.....
>___>.....
..."break" a few things in order to prod more people towards Vista, so I'd advise against updating it when it becomes available next year. ^^'
(I could be wrong, but then we're talking about the same year XP is slated to be discontinued.... ^^').
Oh, and btw... Compiz Fusion does have something similar to the Windows Flip (although I might be thinking of the spinning windows feature). ^v^'
QuoteI wonder what the did with the old 98s?
I'm wondering that too.... ;__;
That there is valuable real estate! ;^0^;
Hopefully Canadians are more conscientious of e-Waste, so they'll find a way to reuse or recycle them properly. ^^
QuoteI do fear that Service Pack 3 will,....
<__<.....
>___>.....
..."break" a few things in order to prod more people towards Vista, so I'd advise against updating it when it becomes available next year. ^^'
Oi...now we're talking conspiracy theories...though I wouldn't put anything past
them...
I already have SP2, though in my add/remove program settings it says I can remove it.
Quote from: "C-Chan"QuoteI wonder what the did with the old 98s?
I'm wondering that too.... ;__;
That there is valuable real estate! ;^0^;
Hopefully Canadians are more conscientious of e-Waste, so they'll find a way to reuse or recycle them properly. ^^
Canadians are most likely to give away their old OSes to other people like family and friends or to a needy school (We DO have programs like that!). Some people keep them in storage or an attic in their homes (like what we do). And then we have those people that just throw away in the trash. -_-;
Hopefully, my school still has them somewhere. Because I feel like taking one to take care of. I mean, they still work! So... there would be no point to throw it away if it still works right?
*dispenses many huggies to IceLilly* ^___^
That's the spirit!! ^v^
Say NO to e-Waste! ^-^
Hm, while we're on that topic, Sempai, what should i do with the old HP Vectra (Win2k) that's standing in a blue IKEA bag some 2 meters behind me?
Use it as a server, router or firewall.... ^___^
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=centos
http://smoothwall.org/
Quote from: "C-Chan"*dispenses many huggies to IceLilly* ^___^
That's the spirit!! ^v^
Say NO to e-Waste! ^-^
*slowly makes "Say NO to e-Waste!" banners* :3
PROPAGANDAAAA!!!
Let see
My first PC was...
Motherboard: Intel VX430i
Prosessor: Pentium I 100MHZ
HD: 850 MB
RAM: 8 MB
OS: DOS 6.22/Win 3.1
later was the same but with a few updates
HD: 2GB to 20GB
Ram: 32MB
OS: Win95 later Win98
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Later in 2003 i buy 2 PCs
Motherboard: Pcchips M925 (Pentium 4) and M825LU (AMD Duron)
Processors: Pentium 4 (M925), AMD Duron K7 (M825LU) @ 1.8Ghz
Ram: 384 MB
HD: 20GB and 40 GB
OS: Linux Rexart ---->Win98/XP Pro
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And my last PC that buy this year is
Motherboard: PCChips (Model unknown yet beause Warranty)
Processor: P4 @ 3.06GHZ
RAM. 256MB
HD: 80GB
OS: Win XP Home (deleted by a Virus) ----> Win XP Pro
i have Windows XP Professional, and I have always used Windows XP Professional except for the old school computers. They were Mac. :)
jajajajajjajajajajajaja, some mounths ago, i found my old Commodore 64 in a old box, what have almost 13 years old of not open it, and just for experiment, i conect it, AND IT STILL WORKS! I DIDNT BELIVE IT! of corse, most of my games was damaged, but others still works very well, and the controls (the commodore can use Atari Joysticks) are usless, but some games doesnt need its... i save my Commodore again in the old box after i found in internet a rom emultator of C64, i hope that still works in 13 more year.
You're using a C64? Incredibly awesome! :D
Fufu... wait, don't put away your PAN-chan. ^___^
Try adding some of these things to put it up to date:
http://ide64.org/
WOW!!!! TANX C-CHAN! But... i don't know how to programate... i just know how to run the programs... jeje...
My friend gave me his laptop because never used since the day he bought it. The laptop says it's a Windows 2000 but he told me it had XP Home installed on it (Yay! Homeko-san! ^v^). But I don't have a power cord and because it's an older model, it's gonna be difficult to find a cord that's at a decent price (or places that carry one at all)... ;_;
Let me know what the make and model is -- maybe we could get lucky. ^.^
QuoteMy friend gave me his laptop because never used since the day he bought it. The laptop says it's a Windows 2000 but he told me it had XP Home installed on it (Yay! Homeko-san! ^v^). But I don't have a power cord and because it's an older model, it's gonna be difficult to find a cord that's at a decent price (or places that carry one at all)... ;_;
Oooh! Awesome! ;010
Quote from: "C-Chan"Let me know what the make and model is -- maybe we could get lucky. ^.^
I bought my power cord today! It was $75.00 and if you payed cash you didn't have to pay taxes (which was good since I only had 75 dollars in the first place!). It's currently charging but lets see if I can turn it on...
*waits*
Yay! It works! It's an XP Pro (My friend thought it was an XP Home) with SP2. It's a Pentium III with 128 MB of RAM and only 9 GB of HD space. I know it doesn't seem much but if it work, I'm happy! Plus, you also have to remember it originally had 2000 on it. ^__^
EDIT: OMG, I just noticed it has a floppy drive. *goes and plays with the floppy drive*
Fufu... well, to Linux users "Pentium III with 128 MB of RAM and only 9 GB of HD space" is about the going rate for an average system. ^v^
Here, have a looksy:
http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2008/01/the_pclinuxos_computer_every_d.html
I suppose if your laptop model is particularly rare, then I guess the price of the adaptor could've been a lot worse (can't hide behind the $75 "Canadian Dollars" anymore, cause now it's worth more than the American.... ^^;)
In any event, do hope you can get a lot of fun out of it. ^v^
(And once again, thank you for your contribution to the cause of E-Waste reduction! ^.^)
Are there any Solaris users here?
May you share your experiences of it with me? Me and my friend may try it together and replace my YDL.
I always thought (Open)Solaris was more of a server OS....
I've used Solaris, but not extensively. My friend "inherited" a very old and bulky server that had Solaris pre-installed. No idea what version or the specs, but it wasn't too hard to use. Easy enough to learn, but certainly nothing I would use on my everyday system. Then again, my opinion is not quite valid, since soon after we got it running my friend broke the video converter. The onboard port was different from everything we had and, being adverse to buying things online, he never got it fixed. ^^'
Also I wonder, would Belenix count? I've used it briefly on VirtualBox,...
Not bad,....... but not terribly exciting either. ^^'
The new Project Indiana Solaris promises to be more competitive with Linux (and also have more desktop-oriented applications than before), but not sure if they're progressing fast enough on it. ^^;
I use XP pro on my desktop and Vista on my laptop.
I use XP Home on my desktop and Vista Home Basic on my laptop.
((Hopefully I will be getting a tablet pc with Vista Ultimate... making me need to come back here to update my user status.))
Quote from: "C-Chan"Fufu... well, to Linux users "Pentium III with 128 MB of RAM and only 9 GB of HD space" is about the going rate for an average system. ^v^
Here, have a looksy:
http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2008/01/the_pclinuxos_computer_every_d.html
I suppose if your laptop model is particularly rare, then I guess the price of the adaptor could've been a lot worse (can't hide behind the $75 "Canadian Dollars" anymore, cause now it's worth more than the American.... ^^;)
In any event, do hope you can get a lot of fun out of it. ^v^
(And once again, thank you for your contribution to the cause of E-Waste reduction! ^.^)
Ooo... ^v^ *is all interested* Icelilly-san likes what she hears! (or in this, reads). But you're right, price did get a lot worse. The prices went as high as $156 dollars! Like I have that kind of money! O__O' But, it was worth paying $75 dollars. Because now, it works! And now, I can't put it down. Saseko-sama is being very kind to me. ^v^
XP doesn't disappoint ^_^
QuoteXP doesn't disappoint ^_^
As a matter of fact, me and my ubuntu-ist cousin discussed this, and other things when we were walking from the train station, to our Capoeira session this evening.
QuoteGhooz: Linux is quite much like a human being. It's complicated beyond belief, and if something goes a bit wrong it's probably able to fix it on its own, but if there's anything major it DIES. In comparison, Windows XP is like a bug - it's got the mentality of a piece of ginger bread, and about the same level of intelligence, but you can do whatever you want with it, and it'll continue going even if you cut off a leg or two - although it might just end up going in circles.
Nejin: Then what's a Mac? Except the stuff they built it for you can't do anything with it, except breaking it.
Ghooz: Good question...how about a rock?
Nejin: Wut? A rock?
Ghooz: *giggle* It's really good for some things, but if you want do do something beyond those limits you'll have to be drastic, like heat it up to 600 degrees celsius or go at it with a steel drill or something.
Nejin: *rotfl's* HILARIOUS! >w<
...something like that.
(and I apologize to all Mac-ists who might have been hurt by this ^-^; )
Quote(and I apologize to all Mac-ists who might have been hurt by this ^-^; )
*tears well up in eyes*
*bwaaaaaahaaa! Apologize to me, the XP fan!*
*snaps out of it*
Hmmm....I always thought XP was much more likely of dieing of a major condition (see: crashes, viruses, suspicious auto-updates) than Linux :P
Well, as far as I know it's better at malfunctioning, crashing halfway and still managing to hold on somehow...
I rollin with a desktop HP Pavilion, running Windows XP Home (Yay I has a Homeko-chan). Funny story, for at 1st I didn't know what OS I had exactly, all I knew was it was XP, but after a run in with a Internet Connection snafu I found it was XP Home Edition.
Been a good 4 years and meh ol' girl's still runnin strong
Hi everybody!!! ;hi
Someone know about a Linux OS called GNOPPIX??
I want to know whre I can download a Live CD? I saw it in a PC that I have to fix for a client, looks nice and easy to use!
I first thought only Knoppix existed, but 'lo there is a gnoppix as well: http://www.gnoppix.org/pages/downloads/index.html
just a gate way but i sometimes talk to XP MCE-tan but i don't get her most of the time
Does it run DOS?
Added after 22 minutes:
Maybe I should tell something about my craptop: She is called Sydi if I like her or Vista if she is slow. She has 75 MHz and 40 Megabytes of RAM. Her harddisk is 4 Gibibytes big. Of those 2 GB, 128 MB are used for freeDOS, the rest for a damn small Linux. While the DOS feels very much at home on the machine, DSL-tan makes me think her name is derived from 'damn slow Linux' a simple project of mine needs 8 seconds to compile despite being well below 1000 lines. A GUI exists, but it only has 16 colors and 640x480. I am pretty happy that the screen does not interpolate though better only to have a small window than a really blurred picture!
EDIT: this sounds too much of a rant. so some more positive things about her: she was free. I like her nub-mouse and that It's hard to hit the mousebuttons on accident. Also I can type blindly on that keyboard surprisingly well and better than on the one of my real PC.
Custom built PC running XP Pro
2.8 GHz Celeron D
40 GB HDD
256 MB shared memory (32 MB used by onboard graphics chipset)
No sound card or video card - I use the onboard ones ;066
The motherboard is an ASUS, but I can't find the box...
She's no gaming machine, but she does what I ask of her.
Wasteful!
You need to upgrade yourself a bit, man. At the very least, get a proper graphics card and some more memory!
Ummm,.... Nejin-san.... ^^;
In that scenario, maybe its preferable to just switch the OS, so he can save himself the cash (and minimize e-Waste). ^.^
Plenty of modern systems out there that could ROAR on a 2.8ghz celeron, 256MB of RAM, and integrated graphics (hopefully that's Intel, not VIA).
Might not be a bad idea to at least try one....
As the old saying goes: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", but then these kinds of things do break every once in a while. Might as well be prepared. ^____^
Yessu, i knows ^-^;
But I just feel the processor is too good to be wasted like that - I mean, my Intel P4 is on 2,3ghz, and she handles an XP modded to near-death very well. In comparison that processor would be _quite_ a nice platform for like, well, ANYTHING. and I've done most things with my computer.
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Wasteful!
You need to upgrade yourself a bit, man. At the very least, get a proper graphics card and some more memory!
Yeah, I've been planning to upgrade for years - it's just I don't have a job yet to pay for the stuff.
Quote from: "C-Chan"Ummm,.... Nejin-san.... ^^;
In that scenario, maybe its preferable to just switch the OS, so he can save himself the cash (and minimize e-Waste). ^.^
Plenty of modern systems out there that could ROAR on a 2.8ghz celeron, 256MB of RAM, and integrated graphics (hopefully that's Intel, not VIA).
Might not be a bad idea to at least try one....
As the old saying goes: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", but then these kinds of things do break every once in a while. Might as well be prepared. ^____^
Never! I'm a slave to Windows!!! Or at least until I get a second HDD - it's got hardly any space left. Though I doubt I'll completely replace it, I like WinXP too much to get rid of it altogether.
As for the graphics, the MB manual (found it under my bed - it's a P4S800-MX) mentions a SiS Real256E (though XP lists it as SiS 661Fx). I'm not a hardware person, so I don't know if that's a good thing or not.
Man I wish I had my old collection back (wich I WILL)... But I'll sum it all up for you to show just what a hardware-freak I am:
Here goes
1. 8088 PC-XT 6MHz, 640K ram running DOS
2. 8086 PC-XT 8Mhz, 640K ram running DOS
3. 80286 PC-AT wich i still had to complete
4 AM386DX 12MB ram running windows 3.11 (I actually got Win95 installed on it, but the loading time was a bit like waiting for the next century to come...)
5. AM486DX 40Mhz 32MB ram running DOS
6. AM486DX2 80MHz 64MB ram running Win95
7. AM486DX4 100Mhz 64MB ram running Win98
8. Pentium MMX 233MHz 128MB ram running win2k
9. AMD k6-2 550Mhz 256MBram running Win2k
10. Compaq ProLiant dual PII 266MHz 128MB ram running Win2k
11. Del PowerEdge Quad (I love how Quad sounds :D ) PentiumPro 200Mhz 256MB ram running Win2k
12. AMD Duron 1100Mhz 128MB ram running WinXP
13. Jewel Sapphire Craptop PIV 2.4GHz 128MB ram (left) running (if it actually starts, 'cause it is near death) WinXP
14. And finally my main PC a AMD AthlonX2 4800+ 4096MB ram running WinXPpro x64
I also have a IBM 5x86C, and a Texas Instruments 486DX2-80 processor, three classic SoundBlaster boards and various other exotics, like a 7.5" floppy-drive and 7.5" HDD
I do love those oldies ;010
All of them are homemade except for the Compaq and Dell (obviously)
When I have moved I will begin collecting again, so the list may expand
And on to the obvious question...
When do you ever use all that stuff?
AND
Who's paying the electricity bill? :P
Well a lot of them are currently not working and I had to let go of my Compaq and Dell (for shame...).
But my intention is to set them up as data servers (the ones that will actually work with windows or any Windows-compatible OS) and I want to set up a win2k domain server plus a seperate DHCP and DNS server. The ones that are too old- 386 and older I'll keep to complete the x86 line...
The main reason is just that I have great respect for those old machines because they're durable, and often underestimated (like the 486-es wich are pretty powerful machines if run by the right OS)
Plus its nice to have a network on wich you can mess around with different programs and protocols...
As for the power bill..... I don't have to pay that, yet...
Besides there's people with big plasma-tv's and sunbathing-beds (whatever you call it) and airco's so I think that a couple of low power PCs won't cause that much of a WattFest ;012
QuoteNever! I'm a slave to Windows!!! Or at least until I get a second HDD - it's got hardly any space left. Though I doubt I'll completely replace it, I like WinXP too much to get rid of it altogether.
Fufu,... you do realize that you don't necessarily need a hard drive even to try out another one of these,.... alternative systems, right? A lot of them just run straight from a CD or USB stick. :)
Quote1. 8088 PC-XT 6MHz, 640K ram running DOS
2. 8086 PC-XT 8Mhz, 640K ram running DOS
3. 80286 PC-AT wich i still had to complete
4 AM386DX 12MB ram running windows 3.11 (I actually got Win95 installed on it, but the loading time was a bit like waiting for the next century to come...)
5. AM486DX 40Mhz 32MB ram running DOS
6. AM486DX2 80MHz 64MB ram running Win95
7. AM486DX4 100Mhz 64MB ram running Win98
8. Pentium MMX 233MHz 128MB ram running win2k
9. AMD k6-2 550Mhz 256MBram running Win2k
10. Compaq ProLiant dual PII 266MHz 128MB ram running Win2k
11. Del PowerEdge Quad (I love how Quad sounds ) PentiumPro 200Mhz 256MB ram running Win2k
12. AMD Duron 1100Mhz 128MB ram running WinXP
13. Jewel Sapphire Craptop PIV 2.4GHz 128MB ram (left) running (if it actually starts, 'cause it is near death) WinXP
14. And finally my main PC a AMD AthlonX2 4800+ 4096MB ram running WinXPpro x64
I also have a IBM 5x86C, and a Texas Instruments 486DX2-80 processor, three classic SoundBlaster boards and various other exotics, like a 7.5" floppy-drive and 7.5" HDD
I do love those oldies
Well that's not the longest list of hardware I've seen on here yet,... but it's pretty neat, especially considering they're all nearly homebrewed and most run old OSes. Methinks SOMEONE's trying to build himself a Beowulf Cluster. A good many of the older ones would make good Thin Clients. ^____^
QuoteFufu,... you do realize that you don't necessarily need a hard drive even to try out another one of these,.... alternative systems, right? A lot of them just run straight from a CD or USB stick.
And of course there's always virtualization if you have enough resources.
And wow, Smokey, you have one awesome collection!
First off....Thank you C-Chan and Bella, you are the first two who didn't say I had lost my mind.
And another thanks to C-Chan for reminding me of Beowulf I read about it a while ago but disregarded it as being uninteresting and not viable. But I didn't know then that those clusters could be run on Linux based software.
So I think I'll dive into this and I may have a go it... This could be fun :D
QuoteFirst off....Thank you C-Chan and Bella, you are the first two who didn't say I had lost my mind.
Oh don't sweat it. Compared to some of the other characters that have passed through here, you're actually relatively sane. ^.^
You'll also find a few vintage hardware enthusiasts around these parts as well, although you may have noticed that by now. ^___^
QuoteAnd another thanks to C-Chan for reminding me of Beowulf I read about it a while ago but disregarded it as being uninteresting and not viable. But I didn't know then that those clusters could be run on Linux based software.
So I think I'll dive into this and I may have a go it... This could be fun
And you'd have a veritable supercomputer for free (or at least the cost of energy + extra cables).
If you're willing, I think it'd be a worthwhile project, certainly very informative. People love to belittle hardware that's even only a handful of years old, not realizing that people used to be sent into space with computers offering not even a fraction of the processing power of our 10-year old hardware. When in the proper hands, even the crappiest hardware can be made to fly above and beyond its capabilities. ^^
You needn't tell me. I worked at a refubishing company once where we showed people that PII's were still good computers even if they were 2 generations old :D
Toshiba laptop w/XP
Toshibaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
Sorry it's been a while since i heard that name... I remember when we used to make fun of it's incompatibility (untill we got our school lappies, then we even started appreciating Packard Hell :D)
Main: Compaq Running Vista Home Basic
Secondry:LG (Cough Cough) running Windows 200 NT (WTF indeed)
Others: 2 laptops running XP Home and another laptop with vista.
Don't mock Win 2000!
She has proven that windowses can be a lot more stable than they were... ;010
WinNT 4.0 was more stable: No drivers, no software and thus no crashes! :p
Yes, but 200 was -eerm is- more suited for home computers, since it supports gaming and WiFi. And if i'm not mistaken NT4 didn't support USB2.0...
PROTIP: USB2.0 support didn't come until XP SP1.
Windows NT 4.0 did not support USB at all.
There you go, 2000 is better than NT4... :D
I thought NT4 was less bad than 2k because it ran scaringly stable (for a Windows). 2k didn't.
Well, i never ran NT4 myself. It was implemented on my old school's network along with Novell, wich was a real disaster...
I came in contact with 2000 after upgrading from win98. Compared to that 2k ran so stable i came to miss the BSODs i frequently got and i had to install the BSOD screensaver to make it feel like a windows again...
QuoteI thought NT4 was less bad than 2k because it ran scaringly stable (for a Windows). 2k didn't.
Well, NT is probably the closest "descendant"of VMS, so it had better be stable ;010
I guess the NT based OSs got farther and farther away from this, from very stable 2k, to above average XP, to so-so Vista -___-
I've never used Windows NT4, but I have used 2000 and haven't had any problems with it and XP runs well most of the time. I have also used Vista, but only for a few minutes to take a look at its really fancy GUI (not enough time to see how well/poorly Vista really does)
Hmm, it seems like M$ OSes are getting worse over time (like vinegar), while the Linuses and Unises are getting better at age (like Wine)... :D
The question is - does WINE get better with age, like wine?
sure hope so... :D
Primary Unit:
Asus F53-JP 15,4 " Notebook ( named Delphin-II )
CPU : intel core 2 duo T7200 @ 2GHz
Ram : nanya 2GB
VGA : Ati mobility raedon x1700 with 256MB
HDD : internal 160GB SATA / external drives 2.0 TB
OS : main system is Windows Vista x64bit Home pro /> virtual OS: Windows Neptune / windows xp / OS2 Warp4 / windows 2.01 and windows 3.11 / OS X Leopard ( still testing)
+ Wlan a-b-g; Blutooth etc .. the usuall stuff for notebooks
Secondary Unit
Asus EEE PC UMPC (named Sumomo )
CPU : intel celeron 353M ULV @ 900 MHz wow , not fast but work fine
Ram : no name 512 MB
VGA : intel 915GML with 8 MB shared mem
HD : 4GB SSD + 4 GB SD okay dont waste any MB !
OS : Modyfied windows xp mce2002
+Wlan b-g
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Out of my service ( but still used in my family )
Acer Extensa 3000WLiMA ( named Delphin)
CPU : intel pentium 710M @1,4 GHz
Ram : Hyndai 512 MB
VGA : Ati Mobility Raedon 9700 with 64 MB
HD : 80GB ultra ATA
OS : Win xp Home
+Wlan b-g
Yakumo C3M Basic ( named Columbus )
CPU : VIA C3 Nehemia @ 1.0GHz
Ram : Hyunday 256 MB
VGA : S3 castle rock with 32MB shared mem
HD : 20 GB
OS : Windows XP Home
Nice lineup...
Only no homebrewed systems, making me wonder how you know so much about the individual components...
And on another note, i've found my hidden stash of old components...
Complete from VRM's to simm32's to a 8087-3 processor... :D
Yust know your enemy !
if you like i can plott also a list of my scarped systems .....
^Wow! You have a lot of OSes on your main computer! ;010
Scarped systems?
well my biggest treshure is Windows Neptune ,The Windows that wasn't ... hehe
And scarped systems: , computer wich have moved to the junkyard
How did you manage to obtain Windows Neptune on your computer?!
But that is so cool, that you actually use an unreleased OS!
Well i use Windows Neptune build 5111 ( its even a higer build number than xp 5100 )
wich leaked via varius beta testers in to public.
I still try to get my hands on the 5117 but ms never presented details about that one.
PS beause microsoft cannceled windows neptune and windows odyssey ms brougt out windows ME as solution in the last minute , same with xp ( odyssey was supposed insteed of xp )
Ok and here now some screens of the mysterius o/s
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this guys a windows user, I like him already! :p
is this a good or bad thing if you like me ? , ps DOS 7beta is also mine
DOS!!! YEAH!!!
Man i loove DOS, it's the only OS with wich i make sure i spell it capitalized... :D
Wow, Neptune...I'm no Windows fan, but that's just AWESOME! :D
(And Neptune-tan is one of my favorite Windows-tans, BTW)
QuoteMan i loove DOS, it's the only OS with wich i make sure i spell it capitalized...
DOS?
Meh, weak. I liek DDOS better...
...FOR THE LULZ >W<
1: That's DDoS, and
2: That shit is only for hackers testing security systems with the knowledge of the system's owner, not for pathetic crackers...
Silence, MAH BOI! We do it for the LULZ, and it is good.
Try downing a M$ server, then...
Why don't YOU try...DOWSING an M$ server instead!?
Naah i wont do that to the empire of evil OSes...:D
hehe , next time i put my images of win ME and Ubuntu Linux on Virtual PC2007 , then my list gets longer and longer.
PS i have also my old disk images from MS DOS 1.01 and windows 1.01
Then i own also the early NT series.
to make it short i have everything between dos 1 and windows xp.
I get my first PC in the age of 6, because my parents dont know what to do with them ..... so they put that comp in my room , it was an i08386 hehe the legandary one .... with win 3.11 wow high end machine !
I started out with DOS and Toybox 2.02 when i was 3... ;010
Ahh good 'ol DOS, by the time i was 6 i was faster typing commands than clicking three times with the mouse... :D
well today each grade school kid has a mobile phone , scary.....
Today each toddler can use a computer because of all the child-friendly software making it easy for them, and that sucks all the joy out of using the computer as a six or three year old...
That every kid is walking around with cell phones is because parents these days are spoiling their kids because it's easier to cave and say yes than to say no and endure the whining...
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or at least that's what i think...
So.
My paycheck just rolled in, and I've got some debts to collect from pops, as well. As long as I land somewhere around a 3000:- budget (which is my estimation), I can (finally, damnit, slowpoke!) complete DELTA.
Also it makes sense now why I skipped a few letters (BETA and GAMMA) seeing as I've gone through two motherboards already, both failing me somehow, and with the DDR3 memory I have to purchase for DELTA, plus the fact that I've got so many spare parts lying around, AND that I'll probably replace my NVidia gfx card with an ATI card since my mobo is Crossfire-only, if I spend 500:- more i have another computer.
If I get more money than this, my room's going to end up PACKED full of monitors and speakers...I suck. _._
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(XE: 1 dollar is 6 SEK, for the estimation)
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(why the hell do I make all my emotes upside-down anyway? _W_ )
I have, on my old (somewhat broken, but still working and still used most of the time) Dell Inspiron 8600 with 256MB RAM, 40GB HDD, and 1.4GHz Pentium M: Windows XP
I have on my new Dell Inspiron 1525 with 250GB HDD, 3GB RAM, and a 1.6GHz Pentium Dual Core: Windows Vista Home Premium and Windows Server 2008 Datacenter x64 dual-boot
I currently within VM's on WS2008 DC x64 via VirtualBox have: Windows 2000 Professional and Windows Home Server Power Pack 1 (which I really have no use for; I have it just because I can)
Q9300, 2.5 GHz, quadcore. 2 GB DDR3 RAM @ 1333MHz CL9.
I won't say much more this time.
Nice Comp , but up to now no Quads for notebooks ,( i said notebook , not that uselesss Desktop Replacement Units with less then 1 hr Battery time )
Okay minna, Icelilly-san needs help.... Again...
Does anyone know what this error message means? I got this message when I drained my laptop's battery so it would shut down as my laptop refused to shut down.
Value creation failed " at line 903
Hi IceLilly-chan!! Long time no see! I'm so glad you finally stopped by a thread I can frequent. ^^
(FYI, nowadays I'm limited to the the computer and art threads only, so places like Topicless are off-limits to C-chans.)
Is this Hacchan or Moseko? Or did you get another machine?
If so, how come you had to drain the battery? Depressing the power button for several seconds should be enough to force-poweroff a PC. (There's also pulling out the battery, but don't know if that's safe or not for regular laptops. Works on my EeePC, although I sleep it first.) :P
Regarding that message, I looked around and found help topics pretty much along the same veins as this:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ukWJBdK2dQEJ:forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D99230+Value+creation+failed+%22+at+line+903&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=14&gl=us
Depending on what system your using, there's a reasonable probability that this may be virus-related, and in fact might also explain why the system froze on you the way it did, only to meet you with that nasty error message upon reboot.
If you can boot back into Windows, try to run a scan to see if anything's in there. Not sure what AV you're using, but you might consider downloading Ad-Aware just to root out any critical malware that AVs might not detect.
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Here's hoping you can. :)
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On the other hand....
If you can't boot back into Windows, let me know. Alternatives at this point are rare and will require a lot of tinkering on your part. You could try booting into Safe Mode (press and hold F8 prior to the Windows Logo popping up at boot-up), but if I know my Windows viruses, many of them muck around with Safe Mode as well.
We might also try booting up another system that can run virus scans or repair what needs to be repaired -- unfortunately, in most of these cases, we can't really know what's broken, so often times reinstallation is recommended.
If this is a newer version of Windows, chances are it doesn't come with its own Recovery Disk, but rather a Recovery partition instead. Assuming the Recovery partition works (and your laptops manual should state how to use it), there's still the matter of recovering all the files from the laptop. This is where a System Recovery CD or even a small Linux distro can come in handy, as they'll be able to mount your hard drive and let you shuttle your personal files onto a USB stick before the whole drive gets wiped clean by the reinstallation.
Here's one that has helped me a lot:
http://www.puppylinux.org/
The latest version is 88MB large, and can be downloaded on dial-up in little over an hour -- you should be able to get it from Hacchan if needed. If it comes down to this, I can give you the details on how to use it.
Good luck, Lilly-chan, and keep us posted. ^^
Hi C-Chan!! It's good to hear from you again! <3
It's actually Saseko that's having some problems. My friend gave me his laptop as a Christmas present to me after he got a computer for Christmas. Secchan is currently being fixed right now. Thunderstorms and lots of power outages fried her modem so I had no access to the internet. Moseko had some problems last month as well but those are long since fixed. My mother gave me the okay last month for my laptop to have temporary internet access as long as I keep the firewall on. Sadly, Saseko doesn't have any AV software since my mother thought it wasn't necessary (mainly because of the firewall) and I didn't worry because the new Firefox scans the files after they are downloaded...
Okay, so this is how it happened:
I tried to shut down the laptop yesterday and it just sat there and nothing. And I mean nothing! You could could press any form of a turn off button and it did nothing. You couldn't even put it in stand by or restart! So, I came up with the idea with draining the battery so it would turn off. Oddly, when it was draining the battery, it was doing it really, REALLY slowly. Slower then usual.
When the battery was FINALLY drained, it was trying to shut off, but that error message I posted in my last post kept popping up with a black screen behind it. Eventually, I grew frustrated with it, closed the laptop and went to eat my dinner. I came back about an hour later and opened up the laptop and looked like it shut itself off. I put the power supply back on and I pressed the power button on and I saw the "Resuming Windows" screen where it got stuck on at the end of its load. I closed the laptop screen and decided to work on it in the morning. At the same time, I unplugged the power supply to the battery.
This morning, I put the power supply back on and turned it on. Before the "Resuming Windows" screen could come on, I pressed F8 for the starting options so I could go into Safe Mode. I selected Safe Mode but the loading for Safe Mode took a full hour to do. But I got on and did a System Restore and it looks like everything is running in good order so far. That's how I was able to post my question in my last post. ^^
However, when I start up and it shows the welcome screen, it shows a bulky black line half way across my screen that appeared after my system restore. I should get a picture of it with my camera and show you.
I'm currently running a spyware removal program (it's a program that comes with AOL) and so far it has found any thing yet. ^^ I'll let you guys know if anything happens!
EDIT: The scan just finished and it didn't find any thing. However, I just remembered that my computer popped up an message in my taskbar that my computer was low on virtual memory and it was going to make more. Could that have something to do with that message popping up when I was trying to shut it off?
*GASP* Yeah,... running XP without AV is taking a BIIIIIIIIIIG risk. ^^;
A firewall is only used to block incoming/outcoming net traffic from your machine, but there are still tons of ways for files to get in. It can be either in attachments, or hitched within cookies that save to your cache directory every time you visit Myspace or Yahoo or AOL or any website with mixed content. Plus if it's a particular "holey" firewall, like the default Windows one or later versions of ZoneAlarm, then its protective ability is suspect. ^^;
And firefox, well,... it's just a browser really. It may offer a 10% security bonus over IE for particular content (especially with security extensions), but is still not meant as a real security barrier. -___-'
Best bet right now -- get Ad-Aware to do your spyware removal instead. AOL is hardly the bastion of security, so I wouldn't trust their tools very much (besides, you should use COL, or "Canadian On-Line" instead -- bwahahaha!). ^v^
As long as you can use it, consider yourself lucky -- many people in your situation might not have the luxury of a working system. That being said, the cosmetic black line problem shouldn't be an issue -- just take it as a Badge of Courage and hope it doesn't happen again. ^__~
Usually memory leaks DO cause systems to freeze up like that, but one thing is certain -- the power-off buttons on ALL computers are hardware-based, so you absolutely MUST be able to turn it off manually when you have a chance, try just holding down the power button for 15 seconds and see if it turns off your machine.
If it turns out that this is possible, whereas it was not during the incident, then:
1) Either the hardware is tied to the software by some rattle-brained manufacturer.
2) The laptop is possessed and needs an exorcism. ^.^'
In any event, to answer your original question,... like most Windows problems,...
It is a Mystery. ^___^'
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One last thing.... chances are the Spyware problem isn't designed to detect viruses, or has a poor detection algorithm for it.
If the cost of licensing Norton and McAfee is the issue (I wouldn't recommend either anyway), consider convincing your mum to try Avast, AVG or ClamAV. All are free and do a good job of detecting viruses -- although I weigh more towards Avast in this particular case.
Avast is a pain in the ass.
I'm for ClamAV, 'cuz it doesn't bother me as much.
Well in fairness, Avast DOES still nag you like any other antivirus program. At the very least, it's easier to use and nicer looking than Free AVG. :P
I've only tried ClamAV under Linux (with the KlamAV frontend) back in my old Buntu days.
Thanks to C-Chan's input, I've got my computer I rescued from a dumpster (gave ten bucks to the owner not to toss it, replaced parts with another junker, and WE GOOOOO!!!!!!) running very well. Here's the specs:
Intel Coppermine (some sort of Celeron, I think...)
395 MB RAM. Some may be bad, it's an odd number...
60 gig hard drive.
One CD-RW/DVD-R drive, one CD-R drive.
A floppy drive, though I have no idea what to do with it. When I unhook it the computer crashes, so it's been left.
Puppy Linux 4.0
I originally had Windows ME on it, and it crashed (big suprise), then Ubuntu, but so far Puppy is the only OS that can keep up with me as I type and have Pidgin and nine browser windows open.
I plan to write a new chapter in my fanfic at C-Chan's urging as soon as I get done with finals!
On an unrelated note, a research paper I wrote won a contest, and I now have a Windows XP Pro laptop with a 2.6 Ghz processor, 2 gig memory, and a 120 gig hard drive. A better computer then I could EVER have afforded.
And I don't have a CLUE what to do with it...I'm sticking to my bang-around Vostro for school use for now as there's no chance of me getting a replacement for a $1500 computer right now.
Yo Grant-san! :D
Almost had me there -- thought you had rescued ANOTHER laptop. Once I saw the specs and Puppy-chan, I knew you were talking about THE laptop. :)
Ecstatic to hear the good news -- not only are you liking Puppy-chan, but you're learning enough about it to install "normal" software on it. I was worried that because it carried a mixture of low-level and custom applications, it would be a lot more discouraging to use. But hey, as long as it works very fast AND does the job, then I guess "lightweight" is the new "heavyweight". I know the Puppy Wizards are amazingly-thorough. :D
(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/EUR/1155-3003~Golden-Retrievers-Puppies-Posters.jpg)
Best of luck in the Finals to you -- although I feel you have oodles of luck already, winning contests and all. :P
Do let me know when you start writing the new fanfic -- to keep with the mandatory "cute" atmosphere, I might volunteer a few illustrations this time around. I'mm thinking perhaps in the artistic style of "The Little Prince" (w/ the standard Anime eyes, of course). ^___^
That seems like a pretty neat machine -- although perhaps a bit overpowered for your needs at the moment, since you're sticking with the Vostro? :|
Hmm... it does get a bit tricky, especially considering that a high-end computer like that will be a budget laptop two years from now.
Have you ever considered perhaps selling it? [New] XP machines are pretty sought after given the less-than-stellar performance of her younger sister. And while I don't want to imply you have the same financial crunch of an average student, I do imagine that a little extra income is always a good thing. :)
Conversely, have you considered gifting it to a family or friend?
I'm going to use it at home and later get a docking station to replace the desktop that was hit by lightning. For now, it's my excuse to finally get a wireless router for the house! It's near-identical to my mother's work laptop, so I think if I can get her to use it that'll be one less machine I have to take care of. I don't want to sell it, as there's zero chance of me getting another one, especially with the sudden loss of XP Pro for this model. It was, apparently, one of the last to be factory-installed with it.
I'll let you know when I start the next story! Though someday, I *do* need to do Vista.
Ubuntu: "Hi, nice to meet you-"
Vista: "You will be assimilated."
Ubuntu: "Um..."
XP: "Ignore her, she's always like that..."
i like vista, once you start working and playing with it you feel a huge distance between xp and vista. But linux is also nice if you yust want a system for writing some mails and watch DVD´s on some older computers
I admit, I'm one of those people who everyone hates who doesn't care WHAT something runs so long as it works. I've had nothing but bad experiences with Vista myself when helping people get set up, but there are some things, like gaming, where it is most definitely the best choice and if it works well for the operator using it, why argue over nothing?
I tend to deal more with simple pictures and lots of text, so something less elaborate works better for me, and with the $10 machine, it's not an option, of course.
I actually got a laugh when I tried to load XP on it and she sort of had a claustrophobia attack. The systems well above minimum specs, but it was a no-go.
Awesome blossom, you chose the Family option Very good, I'm proud of you Grant-san. ^___^
Still waiting [impatiently] for this one in Royal Blue... ^.^
http://www.acer.com/aspireone/
Yup the minimum system requirements are also important; let me tell you 10 years ago I put win 98 on a 08486DX2 machine, which was really no fun. But with actual hardware a new O/S is able to bring out its full potential. But also there was also always some stuff which wouldn’t run on the new system, for e.g., special software for companies.
I’ also don’t give vista 10/10 points, there are some small things I´m afraid of.
Overall I give Vista 8/10 points.
And the thing which I really dislike are that Linux & Vista haters , if they say its crap with even no trying it makes me crazy
Well even Windows 95 has trouble running on old 486 machines, even though it was advertised that it could. Under such circumstances, it's really important to use an OS better designed for older hardware. Windows 3.1 or NT, a lightweight Linux or BSD distribution, or even OS/2 -- that way, everything can run at its full potential. In terms of relative speed, Office 3.0 ran as fast in the hardware of its day as Office 2003 runs on modern systems today.
That certain applications don't run on new [I'm guessing Windows] versions is in part a factor of Microsoft not fully committed to backwards compatibility, but also a factor of the companies not diligent in their efforts in keeping their applications up-to-date. They also share tremendous fault in relying on proprietary solutions, knowing full well they cannot last forever.
My own company still relies on OS/2 Warp to run certain databases written for that platform, which is harder and harder to do since IBM no longer supports OS/2 Warp. Had they chosen to write them using Open Standards instead of tying them to a single vendor, they would have been able to migrate those critical applications to any platform they needed. The same holds true with over-reliance on the DOC format -- now that DOCX is being peddled by the latest versions of Office, billions of data files already written in older formats will slowly and surely slide into obsolescence. Hence the reason why there's so much interest lately by governments and corporations in Open Document formats, to ensure that a file created today can still be opened (with its formatting perfectly preservered) 30 years from now. And thankfully, there's also growing interest in office suites that WILL abide by Open Formats, and not change them every 2-3 years. ;)
When it all comes down to it, everything depends on how much work the user wants to put into his/her computer. If the extent of tinkering with an old computer involves sticking in an old install CD and calling it a day if it doesn't work (or works badly), then yes that won't be fun. But if you love what you do and take a little time to get to know the software and hardware you're using, then you can do really amazing things on any platform, be it Windows, Mac, Linux, BSD, OS/2, Amiga, and all the countless other systems we now have OS-tans for. :D
Heck, it's labors of love by dedicated hobbyists that have made them successfully implement hard drive, CD-ROM, ethernet, USB, etc support for COMMODORE 64 MACHINES, which have not been commercially supported for over 18 years!!!
http://www.64hdd.com/64hdd/details/c64-64hdd.html
http://www.ide64.org/index.html
http://www.dunkels.com/adam/tfe/
http://home.ica.net/~leifb/commodore/ethernet.html
Even I sometimes find it tempting to ask "why bother?", but then I remind myself of the sheer power of conviction, and greatly admire when people actually put that conviction into positive action (in this case, breathing remarkable new life into old but venerable machines).
The real potential of hardware and software is meaningless, unless the user himself strives to make use of his own potential.
Otherwise, you just end up with disposable computers -- and its no coincidence that companies that profit off of disposable products also make efforts to stifle individual potential as well.
Hard drive, CD ROM, USB, and ethernet for the Commodore 64?! That is truly amazing and it is incredible what a loyal fanbase can do!
I got a newer Mac yesterday! It's a 1.5 GHz Mac Mini running Leopard (10.5.4 to be exact) and it also came with a wireless keyboard and mouse, all for a bargain price! :D
I got all of my files transferred (although I had to do so manually, the automatic way didn't work for one reason or another) and after two hours of struggling, I got Inkscape installed!
I tried Inkscape 0.44, 0.45 and 0.46 along with X11 2.3.0 and 2.2.3. But with Inkscape 0.46 and X11 2.23, I found the working combination!
I just hope I never have to go through all that hassle ever again! >__< But it's finally working! ^_^
Wow! Everyone's posting in a hundred million directions! At this rate, I'm gonna reach my response cap in no time. @@;
Guess I'll have to treat every post as an "immediate response required one", and just reply to them all for today. ^^;
QuoteHard drive, CD ROM, USB, and ethernet for the Commodore 64?! That is truly amazing and it is incredible what a loyal fanbase can do!
Now you see why I made C64-tan the "techie" of the Binteji Renmei. ^___^
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I got a newer Mac yesterday! It's a 1.5 GHz Mac Mini running Leopard (10.5.4 to be exact) and it also came with a wireless keyboard and mouse, all for a bargain price!
AWESOME BLOSSOM!!!! Aurora-hime's gonna time travel now! ^-^
QuoteI tried Inkscape 0.44, 0.45 and 0.46 along with X11 2.3.0 and 2.2.3. But with Inkscape 0.46 and X11 2.23, I found the working combination!
I just hope I never have to go through all that hassle ever again! >__< But it's finally working!
Awww... wish you had told me earlier, I would've given you that winning combination right off the bat. I've already installed Inkscape 0.46 on three Leopards and one Tiger, so I've experience on the matter. (then again, I don't have said Macs near me very often) ^^;
Wow, I didn't know any companies anywhere still used OS/2 o__O
And those Commodore 64 hobbyists are so cool! I can't believe what can be done with those old machines...
Congrats on the new Mac Mini, Aurora-sama! And hey, you've finally gotten to try Leopard :D
My dad tossed around the idea of getting a Mac Mini, but when he saw the iMac, 'twas love at first sight. I personally think the MacBook would be better (I do have a laptop bias), but then again, I'm not going to be the one buying it ^^
And I shall remember all this Inkscape stuff. Y'know, for when I eventually commandeer his iMac when it's not being used as a work computer. XD
Leopard is running well on my Mac Mini but upon finding out that my scanner does NOT work with Leopard, I am torn between the decision to switch to Tiger or not. It's hard because Leopard looks so freaking cool!! But, I really REALLY do not want to get a new scanner and get rid of my otherwise still perfectly usable scanner (which still works with my G3). And my parents aren't allowing me to keep my old G3 either :(
And I'm afraid that if I do switch to Tiger on the Mini, that I would have to reinstall Inkscape all over again!
I've never been one to encourage keeping an OS cause it looks good...would you be installing Tiger alongside Leopard, or replacing it?
That's so sad that you don't get to keep your old G3! Did your folks give you any reasons why you can't? Will you be donating it as a school computer or giving it to a friend, or just scrapping it? O__O
I sure know that I'm keeping all my computers, even they they end up not running. Ditto for scanners and printers...I somehow feel the junk of today will be the antiques of tomorrow...
Unfortunately if I do install Tiger, it would be replacing Leopard entirely. Unless there really is a way to dual-boot.
I still want to keep my G3, at least for running Classic applications. But if I'm not able to keep it, I'll sell or give it away. Say no to e-waste!
Well look at it this way,... is it cheaper to buy Tiger or a new scanner? ^^;
Very sad to see this happen, but are you absolutely sure you exhausted all possibilities to get the scanner to work? There's many internal and workflow benefits that Leopard offers over Tiger, so downgrading might solve that one problem but create 10 more for you. '__'
Please keep at it -- check Mac forums if need be.
If you can, post up your scanner's specs and maybe I can dig up some more info?
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Worse comes to worse, we can set up a Virtualbox environment (with a shared folder with your Mac) and have a Linux distro handle all your scanning needs. :P
If I were you, I'd ask if I could keep that computer. If it has some use, you don't want to lose that...
And you should go to the scanner company website and see if you can find drivers for Leopard...
Can't use Virtualbox (isn't that Intel-only? I'm using a PowerPC Mac Mini) though.
I'm using an Epson Perfection 636u scanner (it's old but still gets the job done well) but through some LURKING MOAR online I did find one solution on a discussion where a person was having the exact same problem as I did:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=6549144
The solution is a program called VueScan which supports Leopard and a variety of scanners, including the one that I have! The downside though is that the free version is only a trial and the full versions cost $40 or $80 for the high-end one.
However I am not sure how much longer my 636u will keep working so if I do spend $40 for the basic VueScan, it may not be money well spent.
And all the scanners I have searched for online cost at least $50. There was a very good one I found for $50 but was not sure whether it supported Leopard or not (some sources said yes, others no)
WAAAAAAH?? You mean Leopard is also available in PowerPC-mode? I thought they'd gone 100% Mactel. @___@
Well yeah, in that case that changes the whole playbook altogether. -____-;
The enfuriating thing is that that particular model is presumably well-supported by SANE's Epson frontend:
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-EPSON
But that just won't do us any good in this particular case.
You do make it sound like the scanner is in pretty bad shape, so I would happen to agree that the investment on VueScan might not be worth it -- certainly not when you can get a newer and faster scanner for the same price.
If you have the opportunity to purchase the other scanner locally, do so as it will make it easier to return in case it doesn't work. But by all means, your first step is to check this website to make sure it has a recent Leopard driver for the new scanner in question:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/SupportLeopard.jsp
And if something doesn't sound clear, call them and ask them before making any kind of purchase.
For the time being, you might have to do like I do and just draw straight to the computer. Inkscape is particularly forgiving to mouse-only artists. ^___^
My scanner is not in bad shape at all, just old and because of how old it is, my parents are afraid that it may not last much longer but it hasn't shown any signs of breaking down and I have been using it for 2 and a half years.
For my digital work, drawing straight on the computer is not a problem but without a scanner, I won't be able scan up my hand-drawn comics :(
Aa sou sou... that means no conclusion to System 1-chan's fairy tale. @.@
....
Okay, time to check that list. ^^
Or,... conversely,... spend a few days with Leopard-chan and see if she's everything you ever wanted and more. If not, then you can downgrade to 10.4. But if so,... then mayhap it's time for a new scanner...
ORRRRRR... just try to find some way to keep the old one. I mean you SHOULD have a second one anyway for backup purposes -- see how much it helped Bella-hime during her XP reinstallation! ^^
What if, for example, your Mac Mini blew up while working on some important term paper? Wouldn't it be great to have another system handy to finish the job? I wish I knew more about the situation, but between that, running legacy programs, getting your scanner to work... and just plain saving money... it seems like there's many reasons to build a case for keeping the G3 handy. '___'
Upon finding out that Photoshop 7 is also unsupported in Leopard, I am going to switch to Tiger.
It's for the best, I'll be able to keep my old scanner and Photoshop version (and not have to pay $40+ for a new scanner, $500+ for a new version of Photoshop) and I will not sacrifice very much when switching. But still... I'm going to miss the cover flow, Quick look features and the really cool-looking 3D dock! ;__;
But when I do switch, I really really hope that I don't have to reinstall Inkscape and X11 again!
Awww, I'd just hissy fit my way into keeping that old Mac. 'Course, that is me...my family knows full well that I'm keeping my old computers and peripherals no matter what.
I actually always assumed that Macs came with PS preinstalled. Today I found out otherwise...damn, I guess when my dad gets his iMac he's gonna have to get Photoshop for it (because PS will be very, very, very needed for its use).
Ah well, guess Tiger-sama it is. ^__^
It's not a bad choice (she's like the XP of the Mac world), but you will need to reinstall Inkscape/X11, I'm sure. `v'
Not sure who I should be angrier at... Apple for creating those kind of artificial incompatibilities, or Adobe for not patching older software (and charging a helluva lot of money for new copies).
QuoteI actually always assumed that Macs came with PS preinstalled.
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BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! ^V^
Maybe if you substituted Mac for Ubuntu, and PS for GIMP, that'd sound about right. Otherwise, I'll just have to add that to the list of whoppers I've heard in my lifetime. ^___^'
QuoteToday I found out otherwise...damn, I guess when my dad gets his iMac he's gonna have to get Photoshop for it (because PS will be very, very, very needed for its use).
Right.... purchase.... >___>
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Nah... gave up that world a LOOOONG time ago.... -v-
Let's just be safe and tell him that A), he can always try running Windows Photoshop in Virtualbox, Parallels or BootCamp, B) he can trying buying a used copy, if the license permits it, and C) [legal] Mac ownership can be as expensive as mole-asses , and well... he might have to get used to forking over quite a bit of dough if he doesn't plan on making any sacrifices. ^^;
Sup, fellows.
Having a computer worth bragging about isn't really normal for me yet, so I'm gonna have to make a run for it.
RRRRRRRRRAAAAAADEOON 4870~~~~~
GAWR! Delta is on SPEED! And I run on ELECTRICITY! This world is AWESOME! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIII!
*explodes*
Eewww.... isn't it gross when people spontaneously explode? The nerve of them... so glad I never do that. Fufufu... ^____________^
This is the thingie, right? ^__~
(http://www.geeks3d.com/public/jegx/200806/radeon-hd-4870-20080623.jpg)
Yup. Or, relatively, since it's a Sapphire brand, but still.
I WANT TO LICK IT ALL OVER! BUT THEN IT WOULD BE BROKEN SO I CAN'T! BUT STILL! GAWR! OwO
These days I'm still on XP-tan. and Ubuntu of course. 8.04 to be exact.
I switched to Tiger on my Mac Mini a few days ago and it's working great and without compatibility issues! And although I had to reinstall Inkscape, I got it working on the first try! :D
(Leopard is really cool and all too, but the compatibility issues I had were something I simply could not overlook)
"All's Well That Ends Well." ^___^
Given that you've never used Tiger-sama before, suppose it really is like having a totally new system. ^.^
running windows xp corp edition
xp tablet
Depends on which machine exactly and what partition I booted from. All except one of my PCs have XP-tan Pro version as their main 'workhorse' mode, though my laptop will soon have Vista on it again installed on a minor partition for testing purposes so that I have XP for working and Vista for playing.
The odd PC I have that doesn't use Windows has Fedora on it, and is used as my development server for GNU software. When I get around to releasing my sources anyway, for the time being they just stay right put there.
currently 98se and XP home SP1 ^¬^...
My gaming computer on XP
CPU: Phenom X4 9750 2.4
GPU: MSI NX9800GTX 512 DDR3 Hyb SLi FX8200
RAM: 2 Gigs OCZ Platinum
HD: WD SATA2 750Gb
My Work and Internet PC on Fedora
CPU: Athlon 64 3000+ 1.8
GPU: MSI NX6600GT 128 DDR2
RAM: 1.5 Gigs god-knows-wich-brand
HD: WD 120 Gb SATA
I'm currently running XP home edition.
I'm using Vista Home prenium for about a year, and I totaly love it.
XP Home SP2, on a customized Dell machine.
Here's a run-down of my PCs.
Main desktop: Custom (Build around an old Dell desktop)
Processor: Intel Pentium III (450Mhz)
RAM: 380MB
OS: Windows 2000 Professional (Service Pack 4)
Secondary desktop: NEC Powermate VP75
Processor: Intel Pentium (75Mhz)
RAM: 40MB
OS: Windows 98SE
Laptop: Micron Transport (Unknown model no.)
Processor: Intel Pentium (133Mhz)
RAM: 32MB
OS: Windows 95 OSR2
I'm running XP Pro Edition SP2
Windows Vista Home Premium for gaeman purposes. I would switch to Ubuntu linux in a flash if I didn't have to run every windows game and app under wine.
ZOMG! Today I thought about giving Windows 7 public beta a try...
...but then I was like, nah, it's just Vista, less suckified. XD
Quote from: "Bella"ZOMG! Today I thought about giving Windows 7 public beta a try...
...but then I was like, nah, it's just Vista, less suckified. XD
Yeah I am tomorrow, much because of the performance boost. Direct X10 and it isn't Vista? Sign me up!
Public Beta + Windows = DOES NOT COMPUTE
Seriously, I dunno about that...
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Oh wait. No, TPB has it. Then I'm cool with it.
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Isn't Win7 supposed to be X64 only? It's kinda stupid to cling on to x86 by now...
Ohkay, first an update on my (now aging, almost ancient) desktop:
CPU: Athlon X2 4800+
MEM: 4GB DDR2
Video: 2x GF 8500GT in SLI
HDD: A total of 1,2 terrabyte
monitor: 17"widescreen
case Aeocool with brushed alu front and window with 140mm fan and upside down mounted mainboard with power supply in the bottom (BTX style i think...
And for my new laptop: thats an Acer Aspire 7530 with an Athlon X2 1.9 GHz, 3GB RAM 250GB Harddisk 17" widescreen and my very first official Windows WinVista 32bit (sucks cause it only supports 3.2GB of ram)...
Anyways i love my new lappie to bits...
Hey, your desktop is missing at least one monitor. Fix that.
-w-
that's the fun thing about SLI, you mash 2 vidcards togerther via a small flat cable to make 'em into one card 1,5 times better...
but i'm gonna save for a phase-change cooler, overclock the damn thing straight to hell (wich'll be hrd since it's ASUS + AMD, leaving room for about some 1000-1500MHz extra) and buy me some new shiz...
Better start saving though, cus my average pc costs about â,¬1000.- and this one that i want to assemble next is around â,¬1600.- :D
LIMITS - The smokey has them not.
Windows 7 beta 64bit.
It's pretty cool, actually. Way faster than Vista.
As for the PC
Asus P5Q Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
nvidia Geforce 8800GT
5 Gbytes DDR2 800Mhz
150Gb HDD
150Gb Ext HDD
120Gb Multimedia/TV HDD
GAH! Intel, my nemesis...
and 5GB as in 1x2GB + 3x1GB or does your board have more than 4 slots? I really don't know since i only keep track of AMD related stuff preferably by ASUS...
Never really had a problem with Intel...
My motherboard and my 8800GT are asus, though, good stuff.
And yeah, it's 1x2 + 3x1. Or at least it would be if I had them all connected right now. I also have a spare 1Gb DDR2 800 and 2 1Gb DDR2 533 to use in other PCs or as spare parts.
Oh, don't get me wrong... Intel makes good procesors and they are at this moment slightly better than AMD...
I'm just a die hard AMD fan, along with ASUS and Western Digital... :D
It looks like I'm gonna upgrade my 4-year-old emachines notebook to 1gb RAM and a larger HD, and install some sort of XP/Ubuntu dual boot...
I AM BELLA, PHEAR MY 133TNESSSSS!!!! >O<
*sulks off in shame*
PH34R MY IBM 70904/95 0N W1CH I AM LEARNING FORTRAN!
*sigh*
I couldn't find any courses on programming 1GL, wich'd be the überest-L337...
Maybe that's whats keeping my Vista from epic fail, a bit of sober IBM sense... :D ;010
Umm. I used to be diehard Intel fanboy, until I discovered several flaws in Intel CPU, so I stick to AMD now. The reason for that, I'm a programmer and horsepower-phile.
My system:
AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (with modified retail heatpipe - topped off with Vantce Tornado case fan)
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2HP
2x 1GB DDR II 667MHz (Micron Technology Inc)
WDC Caviar 40GB IDE HDD
Seagate 20 GB SATA HDD (ripped out of X-BOX 360 storage pack)
Windows XP 64 SP2
Lite-On DVD-RW SOHW-812S
Quote from: "Dr. Mario"Umm. I used to be diehard Intel fanboy, until I discovered several flaws in Intel CPU, so I stick to AMD now. The reason for that, I'm a programmer and horsepower-phile...
W00T! YEAH!! GO Dr.Mario!!!Come join the side of the true quad core manufacturer... ;006
I've gotten one of my spare PCs finally up and running again, so here's a quick rundown on it:
3rd Desktop: Dell Optiplex (Don't remember model number right now)
Processor: Intel Pentium III (700Mhz)
RAM: 192MB
OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2)
I'm eventually going to hunt for some parts to upgrade it, but at the moment, it runs at a bearable speed.
Cool... PIII rules... If it's a socket370 instead of a slot processor...
I'm looking for a dual socket370 board with 2 1GHz+ PIIIs... ;010
Oh, yeah. From my experience, Pentium III Socket 370. However, if you can find a motherboard that supports Rambus RDRAM, you may be able to hide the problem the slot 1 experiences - like slow FSB. RDRAM may be slow and expensive - but while messing around in BIOS' DRAM setting (if you have done it before - do it on this one.) It may be worth it.
well, there's on for sale online here, but without memory and i happen to know that RDRAM is the rarest type of memory...At least in holland...
Try eBay. You may be able to obtain them gems cheaply and they usually ship it anywhere.
And I really want the XDR DRAM (XDIMM) memory sticks!!!
The hard part is, I have to wait until they become available, because AMD Phenom II is VERY likely to use this kind of RAM before Core i7 does.
oh, that's hardly worth the effort...
theres a refurbishing company some 15 miles from here where they disassemble written off computer parks of businesses...
Now there is a gold mine... i worked there for half a year and i've seen stuff ranging from PIIIs to Colour laser printers to 8" floppy drives and 8"HDDs... ;010 all practically for free, since too old systems get scrapped...
You should get lucky to get this kind of memory. To heighten your luck on obtain used RDRAM, just look at latter PIII and early P4 system, they have it.
that requires a good dose of luck in these parts, since it was shunned for its high price and low performance bonus over "ordinary" RAM...
Believe me it was flamed HARD in magazines and stores and, well everywhere in holland... shame though...
Good point, though. Worth a try.
I had a better chance here in USA, and in Japan, though.
Although, the XDR have replaced RDRAM. It's because it's faster and cheaper. (According to Rambus.)
I really want XDR, though. Just 9.6 Gigabytes/seconds each serial links (two leads from each of the corner of XDR chip) is still unbelievably fast - just four of 4GB XDIMM modules on 64-bit x86 would easily clock out at 87GB/s or more at 3.2 GHz memory clock.
Aww sweet... ;010
I am designing a sort of RAID RAM configuration at this moment...
That'll be a nice challenge: to get the architecture and programming right...
That would be more like FB-DIMM, interesting still.
Well, basically it'll be a work around to increase speed of the RAM without having to design a completely new chip...
It's already hard enough designing the thing as it is; with scavenged parts... :D
If you don't wanna wait for Phenom II with support for DDR-3 or XDR-DRAM memories, I suggest you first seal pins or balls of memory chip, be it SDRAM, or DDR (any generation) you're using off with RTV, then chill it with peltier or refrigerant then do mean of 2, thus x4 clock speed. Just my idea, based on my experience.
Well I intend for the system to look roughly like this [see image]
Where the memory banks will be written to simultaneously to quadruple the speed, and the process controller will have to evaluate where to send the instructions to (to wich processing unit).
The processing units themselves consist of 2 processors to wich the instructions will also be equally divided in an attempt to effectively double the clock speed...
It is also my intention to integrate the components in such a way that any idle processor (main PU or GPU) will be able to handle pending instructions as to optimise the MIPS/MFLOPS performance...
Finally the expansion controller will have high speed connectors to wich i can later attach further processing boards or other expansions (video units, IO, Storage etc...) and the IO handler will handle things like USB, LAN etc....
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Like I said, this is going to be on helluva project...
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... HEY! That seem familiar - more like a x86 Cell (x86 clone of PS3 Cell BE processor)
How about removing PU's ram controllers, and link them to Xilinx Virtec 5 with XDR memory controller, and having host CPU directly controlling linked FPGA and PUs, it could run like a x86 Cell, churning out few TIPS and TeraFLOPS.
Yeah, I'm going to use x86 Cell in NES computer project.
Good idea, I will try to implement it in my design...
I was also thinking of putting the PUs on a seperate board with a high-speed datalink to the motherboard...
And BTW I didn't know that it was similar to CELL... :D
Better shield Athlon XP PU's IO then. Because the longer the traces get, more radio-related errors and/or problems you're gonna get.
Try serial IO setup, I think - may reduce the problem.
well, i intended to use a serial link whrevr i can, i just didn't think about it with the PUs, wich now makes life a lot easier on me...
That's just my suggest, based on my experience handling the design of motherboard.
(Yeah, I have made few mobo before - but it's not easy. My NES computer project involves handling sophisicated processors, one using a LGA interface containing over 1,000 pins in the socket - not Socket F or B, though.)
i know, and i indeed dread the MoBo design phase, since i will be etching the PCB myself...
Still, I have an access to a PCB etcher (which use powerful UV laser to etch the copper layer while being immensed in solvent) to make a multilayered motherboard.
I don't have it yet though. ;014 But I will have it shipped as I'm moving to different part of Montana.
o_o wait what...
;015 that's awesome...
and here i am with the most basic tools available... ;014
Yup. Well, I usually get away with basic tools. ;020
And for the laser PCB etcher, it's pretty hard to get: it got a heart attack-inducing price tag.
A few grands.
Usually, if I don't have an access to PCB etcher, usually I would set my eye on my HP LaserJet 4L for that job. ;001
i haven't even got a LaserJet.......yet, that is...
all this reading from a screen is enough to drive me bonkers...
Don't feel bad, buddy.
I'm only able to surf the Internet is to use the Playstation Portable.
It suck sometimes and I'm an expert PSP operator already... ;014
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Of course, I usually do away with what I can use.
OMG, that is indeed basic browsing...
but internet is internet...
Ha ha - true. ;001
However, when I can hook my computer up to the modem, I would use Firefox or IE7 whenever possible.
of course, PSP is cool but it does have a small screen... wich = fail on most sites...
And memory error too.
Damn those pesky RAM size... (it's laughably 32MB...) ;014
?? i have a 2GB memstick in mine...still not a big data-warehouse but still...
I was blaming the PSP's main RAM - it's a feeble 32MB DDR-333.
And I got a 4GB high-speed memory stick. ;001
You know...too much storage on small devices like that makes for LOTS OF LAG...
Not necessarily. It depends massively on memory controller.
Many flash memory know that. That's why Intel had to design the memory controller from scratch.
Although, it's also true for DRAM, unless you multiply the clock rate and have ECC enabled.
Ever wondered why AMD got Rambus IP license?
If you don't know, it's to put XDR memory controller to work for future Phenom II and Athlon and it's going to happen much soon,
because the more cores you put in the quicker the limit DDR 3 is going to hit.
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Anyways, flash and RAM are different animals.
Yeah, I really want to put my hands on PC XDR memory.
Beside, many people said XDR will never make it to PC design;
Not true, just "overdued" postponed - it will make it to AMD processor - Opteron first.
AMD said Rambus XDR is YERY likely to be used in Socket G34 - that's what I heard.
Just wanted to give some informations.
BTW, I like your avatar, NejinOniwa.
have to agree with DrMario, lag can be countered by more efficient controlling or a better link...
And AMD developing new processors and sochets is why i haven't swapped my AM2 for an AM2+, i'll wait for at least an AM3...:D
Good point, Smokey.
Sorry about the previous post, I was buzzed in my mind. (Nowhere drunk, though.)
I shoulda said, "The flash memory makers know that"
Anyways, about AMD's plan of transition to XDR DRAM memory, it will probably start with Radeon HD5000 video chip.
For some reason I like Rambus now - the future Phenom II X8 (and Bulldozer) should (and will) benefit from XDR memory with no overhead limit that DDR 3 now face.
(if anybody don't believe me, go play Crysis - you will know why quickly.)
Oh, god... Crysys, the game my system can't handle well...
But i can't seem to find juicy info on AM3 boards or higher, nor can i find the Phenom x8... ;063
Guess it's just me. (I have been putting my nose in Japanese Tech Expo - AMD did hinted that they're serious about Rambus XDR memory in Opteron X6 [Socket G34] and Radeon HD5k.)
I have played Crysis on a x86 CPU using 8GB 4.8GHz XDR as a part of test - the result was impressive. (can't say the name of CPU yet, though - yes, I'm going to use the same CPU in NES computer project.)
it sems to me you're more "on the inside" than i am... :D
Alpha/Beta-tester, perhaps?
Yuppity-yup.
And I may have (or may already have) a job at the same corporation who gave me the CPU to beat the c**p out of it, like doing benchmark with smart overclocking enabled (yes, it's chilled on the ice, using Peltier plate. I'm pretty fussy about thermal management when it come to the CPU chip.) - to be a circuitry designer and programmer.
and we have the reason why i'm doing this...
Basically to go to IBM/AMD/ASUS and surprise them with my rough skills...;010 (maybe even get hired...:D)
Probably, the company that I got a job from, probably would hire you (the Japanese dudes over there are considering USA, Holland, and of course, Germany.)
Good, more motivation for me... :D
Meanwhile, do you know any useful resources on MoBo design??
I am getting more and more stumped here... ;013
Good, yay!
Since motherboard differs, I recommend you stick to whitepaper for more informations. (The datasheet for specific chip that you'rd going to use - you can google for the obsoleted chip's datasheet - like Intel Technical Datasheet for i8088, for example.)
Me? For NES? Yes, I have them. Well, for the CPU, I knew it should be fed from VRM chip using 7-bit VID, and have it pumped with 200MHz PLL for core clock, 300 - 667MHz for the memory controller.
Thanks...
And i pity my desk as she'll be drowned in paperwork now...(along with the living room) ^_^
Smokey, I'm guessing you're using CRT monitor, right?
(Just askin' since you complained that you didn't like to stare at the screen - I don't blame you - I hate CRT monitor that my eyes wanted to roll back into my skull - I may buy OLED monitor someday, just to ease eyesore a bit...)
Oh, no i have TFT monitors, but i dislike the [alt]-[tab]-ing while i can have the info on paper...
I do have a CRT television still but that's for compatibility with my Nintendo Scope... :D
And this is tricky business, i have a lot to learn, before i can make a detailed design... But it keeps me busy in a way that will help me (and possibly others ^_^)
Oh. And by the way, Good for you, as you will learn few Jack of Trade trick on troubleshooting the computer in a way that's never mentioned in motherboard owner's manual.
Good luck on your project
Thanks... and of course, (after i chew through the paperwork) i'll update progress here... :D
Well, I'm using a HP laptop with Athlom XP 3000 processor, 512MB ram and 100GB hdd, Dual boot with Slackware (Is there a Slack-tan?) and WinXP.
I'm using an Edubuntu Linux computer, which I don't know the specs of because my dad built it from scratch. It runs pretty fast, and apparently it's got 7 drives mounted on it. Can't get my windows drive working on it, though... -shakes her fist at Homeko-
Also, I have a Macbook Pro that I use for art and music. Her scratch disk is almost full, I need to buy a few external drives.
My disc is full too, ahaha. Need to burn some DVDs
For Linux? I'm using Sabayon Linux dual boot with xp-chan..... ;018
Sabayon can read/write NTFS partition as long as the partition is not compressed or encripted!
I mostly use linux for Multimedia, Office, Net, File manager and so on cause i like the linux 3D Desktop. I only use xp-chan for gaming.... linux lack of good game....
If you don't know about 3D Desktop that i'm talking about, see this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gUVQLqyxU4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6IAKYD4DpI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibxmrYtnrys
Many people said that Sabayon is Vista-killer..... ^_^
True. True.
No wonder so much people had high hopes for Windows Vista, only to find themselve pissed off by this OS.
Indeed, I'm disappointed by the fact that it's, in reality, not future-ready like MS claimed. What about the PC XDR memory module? I have tested MS' claim, only that they're wrong - I have done this so-called compability test on the 64-bit x86 multicore CPU - Vista ran fine on DDR-3 then I swapped for 4.0GHz XDR memory - Vista simply crashed. No driver for XIO controller.. =S
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Also, for you guys who are eagerly waiting for Rambus XDR-DRAM to be used as main memory for the future x86 CPUs, please avoid Windows Vista - use Linux, older Windows, or - hopefully - Windows 7.
I haven't tried Windows 7 on one of my PC (the one that have 4.0 GHz XDR memory - this system's much new. Vista failed, so I shall see about 7.)
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0.9999!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is M$ such an a-hole that they won't release the kodes to DX api's so they can be incorporated in Linux?! Why do we still have to do thw Wine workaround, wich is lazyman-unfriendly!...
My lawd, i hope windows goes bust someday soon...
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Oh and BTW, 100GB full is something i achieved loong ago, i am surprised you can even manage with such a small disk, cuz as i posted somewhere, probably in another thread i have now some 1450GB stuffed...^_^
There is one thing that MS underestimated, DX is never closed-sourced.
Why? It's clearly right in video processor programming manual. You can download it - however, if MS sue you, they would be in deep sh*t already. If you got sued over Radeon, they effectively lose AMD.
(Come to think of it, we have anti-trust laws.)
Come MS, come to open-source world!
*uses his creepiest voice*
Come be one of us...
We will be your friend...
*giggles crepily*
♪♫ Come here! ♪
♪ Come here, Bill!! ♫
*shiver*
Do you guys think I'd be insane to try this?
When I get my new comp, I wanna multi-boot with different OSes. I'm thinking of a 2GB ME partition, an 8GB AROS partition and the rest for XP.
I want ME to experiment with as it's the only Windows OS I've never used. So, am I insane?
well you will get a new apprication for the other OSes :p
I can imagine...
Well, if it's for the lulz, no you're not mad...
If it's for serious work, you spanner, get a proper OS...
Basically that's it, but i can relate, though. I was tempted to multi-boot my PC when i upgraded from 98 to 2000, because i missed the BSODs... I ended up with an easier solution, a BSOD screensaver wich even emulates the splash screen of the windows you are currently using... But that was in the time i also moded my splash screens and desktop, so...
I have a BSOD widget installed on my computer! :D
It's convincing too and when I get back in the mood for practical jokes again, I'll activate it, fake a panic attack and tell my parents that "Oh NOEZ! My Mac got the blue screen of death!"
Macs don't have BSODs................right?
I had one of those things too at school, pressing <ctrl>-<f6> summoned a blue screen so teachers/admins couldn't see what i was doing... :D
Macs don't get BSODs unless it's an Intel Mac with Windows installed on it and you're unlucky. (mine's a Power PC Mac)
In the Classic Mac OS, you get 'error bomb' dialogue boxes or a 'Sad Mac' icon at startup. In Mac OSX, you get a Kernel Panic since OSX is Unix-based... which still seems so wrong to me! Yeah, sure OSX is fine too (Tiger is not giving me any problems. Gotta like that!) but I say long live the Classic Mac OS! HAHAHAHAHA! No, this is not a repeat from 2002. Truth be told back then I was eager to upgrade to OSX because of all teh eyecandy and teh shiny! Luckily I'm a lot more practical-minded these days and take other factors into consideration!
yeah, those screens are cool... saldy those iMacs and these days other iProducts make me rage and took away the respect i had for mac...
Well, I've been playing around with ME on a virtual machine and have some observations:
1. It refuses to install on VirtualBox, so I can't have 3D accelleration! It installed on VirtualPC first time.
2. Been using it for over a day now, no BSODS, everything works as I had hoped.
3. File copying is a bit slow. I set up a shared drive between host & guest and it took almost 10mins to copy 4MB worth of files (though there were an awful lot), but oddly only 2 to copy 78MB worth of files (only about 5 in the folder tho).
I found a website that has unofficial patches and service packs that I'll probably use when I install it for real. But so far, I haven't found the need to.
What about System Restore? A lot of websites I found reccommended turning it off...
I don't know, man... I don't know... You're on your own...
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I'm not touching that with a 2 mile pole...
Good for you that you have not had major problems with ME! :)
But I can't help you with the System Restore part but from what websites did you read that? It might not be a bad idea if the sites in question have credibility to them.
I can't remember the name, but they did some benchmarks with 98 & ME and there was a SIGNIFICANT difference towards the higher end of the spectrum when you turned SR off. I think it's based on processor speed/memory though.
sounds logical, since SR does require HDD actions to operate...
Guys... - .-
DELTA is acting up on me lately. She crashes more frequently while gaming now (I dunno what it is that gets overheated, but it's probably something), and moreover, she gave me a FAT bluescreen today. TWICE. And then she refused to acknowledge the functionality of the hard drive, so I had to pull the plug and reconnect it. And get a damn chkdisk. Which took 15 minutes.
I'm considering moving to Linux now, seriously -_-
if your HDD reached it's MTBF not even Linux will help...
*looks at a deceased HDD next to the PC*
I dont care so much about the MBTF , modern hard disks have about 50000 running hours life time,
to reach this you have to run your computer nonstop about 5 years and 7 month.
And I guess after 3 years your hard disk is already to small and you are about to by a new one.
But be carefull, massive use of the disk , like for file sharing software , or other heavy acces and write opperations eventually reduce your disks live time, same goes for to high temperatures ( 40 deg Celsius or 104 deg Fahrenheit are the optimum )
If you use a Notebook avoid using it in Vibrating areas like on the backseat of a car.
If you follow this few basic things you have for a long time working disk !
But as usual, backups are always a must !
MTBFuckthewhat?
And it's functioning alright now, don't worry. CHKDISK said it was some lost file that seemed like it belonged in a system folder, so I guess that was what did it, which means it's probably XP and the damn NTFS format's faults, but still...
And those optimum specs you talk of are so far away it's not even funny, considering the sheer amount of downloading and/or uploading I do, and that DELTA's mobo temperature (as I am writing this, running nothing else than OpenOffice, Winamp and Firefox) is 50 degrees celsius...I really need better cooling for this shit, seriously -.-
MBTF = ( Mean time between failure )
or to make it short how long a disk normaly survive, sometimes a bit more....
QuoteIf you use a Notebook avoid using it in Vibrating areas like on the backseat of a car.
If you follow this few basic things you have for a long time working disk !
Indeed, thats why police laptops dont last long. That and the cars vibration also wears down on the screen so it cant stand on its own after a while.
If that's the case, then using SSD drives would just solve that problem pretty easily, ne?
I wouldnt know anything about those, but are they more expensive? Police budgets are rather small usually :p
Well, of course getting one with the same amount of space would crave a sky-high price, but the smaller variants like 32gb disks aren't all that rage. You'd probably be able to get them for some 6-700$, or something. I don't know for sure though ^^
yeah, I think they would probobly get the cheaper much larger drives and treat them as disposable. They are in cars after all, police cars of all things, and things happen to those. Best not load it with the most top of the line equipment.
Well, true, I guess. But SSD's are unexpectedly tough, I hear...
True. But what about the MTBF of flash chips? I mean, it's only good for one millions of RW (Read and Write) cycle. Still tough and easy on power consumption. (Don't worry about flash chips' cons, the Magnetic RAM is catching up now. It would still be nice to have a MRAM-based SSD right now, anyways.)
Yes , also those SSD disks have a limited lifespan.
Here are the write cycles counted. Ca 500.000 â€" 1.0000000 cyles per cell is the standart now.
The read only aces is unlimited.
If you write data on a SSD disk a controller distribute the date tru the cells , so that all of them get the same amount of cycles, also each SSD has a spare capacity of 2-3 %, if the controller recocnize a cell is damaged he activates a spare cell. Everything goes automatic.
If you use your computer yust for office stuff , the disk maybe survive 20 â€" 35 years, but if you are playing , downloading and installing a lot it goes arround 5 years.
I also was looking for a SSD rep for my Notebook , but they are still expensive and have a insufficient capacity.
So I yust put a new 2,5†HD with 250GB ( Samsung ) inside
yyyyyyyyyyyyYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEAAAAHHH!!!!!
*screeches to a halt*
I am using my desktop again, and boy do i love having access again to my 1.2TB of data... What a difference a $15 keyboard makes... ;046 A couple dozen little key-eys...
Anyways, a safer bet for HDDs is about 20-25 years... and for my disks that would be some 2-3 years, since they get used very intensively... As for the conditions... I have a very nice case, with my MoBo mounted upside-down, PSU in the bottom and a 120mm, 2 80mm, a 140mm and a 60mm fan for the heatpipe cooling on the chipset so temps are Mobo 33C, CPU 31C (cooled by a 120mm six-fold heatpipe)
;034 Smokey, nice setup!
;070 Be careful, if you have Magnetic RAM-based SSD. Don't bring any magnet near the RAM chips - if you expect it to happen, PUH-leeese back it up! Anyways, it would be encased in magnetic heatsink to protect the MRAM, but I'm still taking a precaution.
Although, MRAM SSD won't be out sooner, regular hard drive is still good for the video edition and 3D modeling, since it have constant demand on hard drive.
Oh, the i think a good 10/15.000RP/M SATA RAID setup (yay, WD :D) can keep up with demand for the time being... Cuz if i remember correctly SSDs are a bit slower on writing than a standard SATA300 disk @7200RP/M...
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Also, I only have an Athlon X2 4800+ with 4GB of ram (god i loooove my ram, i can run a game like the sims/simcity and then alt-tab to the forum without a worry ^_^), so i'll wait for ASUS to bring out a nice AM3 board here and buy that (AM2 is supported by AM3, right? cuz i know AM2+ is...), plus my GFX need updating since even 2 GF8500s in SLI are obsolete now...and last but not least (if i have cash again :D) i'll get me a nice PhenomQuadcore... ^_^
;014 Too bad Toshiba don't sell the desktop hard drive that much.
BTW, I LOVE AMD multicore! Although I admit that I have Core i7 setup too (for GO64 with Intel x86 driver modelings.) Certainly, Intel have learnt to model Nehalem after Phenom, after all.
Flash-based SSD is much slooower, but MRAM ones are freaking fast! (MRAM is based on SRAM technology, only with magnetic memory cells.)
;269 Intel?! WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?! At least you do love the right stuff....
And sadly we don't have MRAM yet here in holland....
Smokey, don't feel bad. Intel Core i7 that I own, is for software developmental. (Yes, I'm also planning to develop GO64 AIOS firmware for THIS processor too.) Anyways, I also used peltier cooling on this CPU, because I want every single PC I own to last longer.
And MRAM is still a infant technology, being made on 250nm lithography, although very few foundry did got away with 90-65nm lithography. One, being at my work, did got away with 45nm Hi-k Metal Gate process, yielding 32GB a die (in testing stage)
Well, intel has it's pluses...
And on a similar, life-span note: my ASUS AI Boost just told me that I've overclocked my CPU by 125MHz (did that ages ago and forgot all about it :D), she's running nice and stable and more importantly, cool aswell...;010....
But when i get a new MoBo/CPU i'll push this baby to her limit... ;006
*looks at his case*
Oh right i even installed heatsinks on my ram... ^_^
Speaking of wich, back to the topic, i don't doubt that MRAM is far away, wouldn't be surprised to see it this/next year in the store or read about it in the mags...
Especially true. It's only just beginning to have its own games, versus other solid state memory chip types.
MRAM have totally unlimited read and write access, which makes it great for SSD.
Certainly... A storage media loses some of it's perks if it's lifetime is limited... (like DVDs/CDs...)
;001 True. Everybody who know about MRAM demand MRAM-based SSD, just like they demand a bottle of sake!
MRAM in SSD will be optimized so it can handle from 22 MB/s to 1.4 GB/s writing speed, exploiting SATA's real glory: SPEED!!
;001 Yeah, when I get one, I will caress it like a woman!
Hang on... SATA already reaches (theoretical) speeds of up to 3Gb/s...
So in the beginning it will be smashed to bits by SATA with performance, and it will have to sell itself on durability... and noise, because SSDs are silent drives...
Nope. Not a chance. SATA didn't reach 3Gb/s. What's left of usable bit from rapidly spinning (10,000+ RPM) hard drive is just laughable 78 Mb/s. What about the others? The other chunk of data are mostly NCQ pre-requests, S.M.A.R.T. data, and "data pads" (similar to what Ethernet modem chipset do to runt signal it's about to fire).
Instead, SSD were made for few reasons, one being, filling the gap in SATA bandwidth (like I said, regular ones haven't and probably never will reach this kind of bandwidth.)
custom built, amd quad core 2.6ghz, 4gb ddr2 800 ram, 1.5tb total sata hdd storage, evga 9800gtx+, xp 64 bit
That is quite a machine uyou have there...
(crap, ASUS needs to hurry with those AM3 boards...)
Not bad. That's pretty good for a custom computer, jeffs2009.
DDR2 is so last half-decade, man!
DDR3 has higher latency... so i prefer DDR2 (if it's hooked up to a proper memory controller, like the on-die ones AMD has...
Yeah, gotta agree with you, Smokey. I will rather stick to DDRII or XDR memories. Well, for game, or photoshop, I would be better off using XDR memory, which is not out for public usage yet, though. Have used it, liked it.
Sometime I think some company are wasting their time using DDR 3 if they're looking for horsepower... =P
(on side notice, I don't care if Rambus is a patent troll, DDR need to be replaced pronto. Phenom Agena did indeed suffered RAM bottleneck, just by using DDRII.)
Well a technology can only be stretched so far...
Yeah. DDR (all types) are now limited on their bandwidth, which is why both Intel and AMD are going to sell their GPUs with XIO (XDR IO) controller PHYs already on-die. Same for their CPUs (remember, XIO controller was designed to support DDR 2/3 and XDR, so CPUs can use either use Socket AM3 or B, depending on where you got it from, AMD or Intel.)
Yeah, i read about that...They said that AM3 processors supported both DDR2 and DDR3...They didn't write about XIO though, i guess AMD didn't say anything about that because that is at this moment irrelevabnt...
I suspect Phenom II already have XIO controller, what the hell - I will find out... My own OS already have XDR memory / controller driver so it would be able to tell what kind of RAM controller, regardless of RAM type installed (RAM will be dealt with after controller is fully calibrated.)
And I doubt G34 will support DDR3 any longer (it will support both DDR3 and XDR anyways. Can't waste sockets.)
You mean no DDR2, I suppose?
Future Opteron's XIO controller operates at 4.8 GHz, so DDR3 1.3 GHz is only supported (4.8 GHz buffered XDR being the maximum), mostly to avoid internal FSB lag and memory bottleneck, otherwise Opteron will perform like a piece of crap. The reason AMD chosen DDR3, is because it's in sync with on-die XMC, 600 MHz base clock goes in hand to hand with both 1.3 GHz FSB for DDR3 and 4.8 GHz FSB for XDR.
So, in other word, it's not possible to use DDR2 on socket G34.
Thank goodness AM3 still supports that old DDR2... that stuff is dirt cheap here... about â,¬10,- per GB... :D, plus i would like to keep using my 4GB a while longer... ^_^
Yeah. Could be helpful in install Vista (before AMD's updated driver is to be installed) while using an AM3 motherboard (very few developmental AM3 motherboard have XDIMM slots.) DDR2 first, XDR last. =_=
Anyhow, don't try to run Vista alone on Phenom II (with its XIO controller unlocked) with XDR installed. Tried it, got in a paradise of BSOD (immediately after EFI utility exited with a "PASSED" mark).
Oh, that reminds me of when i installed an extra GB of RAM, making a total of 4 on my laptop, it has 32bit Vista and it booted right up to a nice BSOD...
;014 Yea, same thing happened to me, except it complained of unknown RAM type, only to be corrected by Rambus memory driver. (No, not RDRAM driver... Both are different. Updated AMD driver is more likely to have XDR initalization instructions, but I had to hand-code it, because I couldn't find the driver, amdk11.sys for Vista, better off being built in Windows 7, and for a test x86 CELL BE.)
And, yes, it booted Windows 7 x64 up successfully (with 8GB XDR, just to see if any of wheels have popped off.)
Nice, maybe win7 is a good OS... ^_^
Not that i've had any issues (besides the swarm of compatibility errors/issues) with Vista...
Yeah, unlikely the Vista. Vista sucked badly that everybody reinstalled Windows XP on their computers. ;franz; MS shoulda worked a bit better on hardware support...
i know, i tried it to see how hard it sucked, and i have to keep it because of how wonderful my SLI works in Vista...It didn't work in XP... Plus there's DX10... so basically the plusses outweigh the downsides...just... ^_^
True. At least Service Pack 1 did ease the problems in Vista.
too bad windows always needs service packs, plus a shipload of smaller updates to help most problems....
That never come out on time...
Obviously, M$ first need to have feedback before they do anything...
Yep. Feedbacks after feedbacks, it often never help, better off hunting down the software pieces, whose acting like a baka, thus taking a long time. I think M$ shoulda called it Windows Wrecked instead of Vista!
;046 Ooh, here come Windows Wrecked, comin' to wreck your computer!
Okay, it's a bad humor... ^-^;
If Win7 is number 7, then Vista's final version would be...
Windows 69. -w-
>_> 69 sound kinda dirty. Anyways, why not Windows 59?
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Oh, LOL...
Now where can I get me one of THOSE..? lmao
Okee. I guess dealing with Vista would be like doing our work on that weird teletyper (with Win59!)
*clank clank* >_> Still waiting on porn to be downloaded... Oh, I forgot to put tape in.
Just kidding!
*reminisces about the good ol' times with the magnetic disks, tapes and kilowords...*
my computer is a compaq presario running Win 2k. (it's a special edition model made in 97' especially for radio shack)
the family computer is a dell running vista (*barf*)
my sister's laptop is a dell inspiron (about 4-5 years old now) running XP w/ a mac overlay.
Me :
1st : an emachines G620 working with ubuntu 8.10 ( AMD athlon X2 @ 1.90GHz, 3GB RAM DDRII, 160 GB HDD, 9100M GPU )
2nd : a no-name PC I built my-self working with Windows Server 2003 ( Athlon XP 2600+, 512 MB RAM SDRAM , 10x 500GB ATA-HDD, ATI RADEON 9250 Pro )
3rd : a Tecra 8100 Laptop with Xubuntu ( PIII 700 MHz, 128 MB RAM SDRAM, 6 GB HDD )
4th : A Macintosh with MAC OS 7 ( CPU : 25 MHz, 1 MB RAM EDO, 40 MB HDD SCSI ) ( It's my first PC I had )
5th : Another no-name PC with win XP SP1 ( CPU : PIV 2GHz, 512 MB RAM DDR, 20 GB HDD, ATI RAGE PCI 16 MB ) ( I use it to test HDD, DISC READER/BURNER, ETC... )
And, I have many pieces in case of ...
Your 1st sounds alot like my Acer...(aspire 7250)
Custom Built Computer
-- Gigabyte Motherboard
-- 6 GB of RAM
-- nVidia GTS 250 (1 GB)
-- Intel Core 2 Duo 3.0 GHz
-- DVD-RW Drive
With Windows XP x64 SP2 (Windows 2003 Server)
Right now I'm using a HP Pavilion with a Core2Duo @ 1.8GHZ, 2MB of RAM and a HD of 160 GB.
In the software I'm using Ubuntu, slax, XP and Vista.
Now I'm using Ubuntu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRLE53DorOY
WinXP, Win7, Ubuntu.
Well, I finally got around to building the legacy PC I always wanted, thanks to the kind donation of some much needed parts by my new boss.
Cruz Personal Computer case
Intel Pentium III 800MHz
256MB RAM
Gigabyte GA-6VX7-4X motherboard
VIA Apollo Pro chipset
64MB nVidia GeForce2 MX400
Creative Sound Blaster Live! Value
High-speed 48x CD-ROM drive
DVD-ROM drive
iOmega USB CD Writer
30GB IBM Deathstar HDD
After two days of trying and failing to install a stable OS, I decided to run the IBM HDD health test just in case the Deathstar had failed like it's bretheren, but it came back green. Then on a whim, I decided to test the memory, too and gave up after more then 25,000 memory errors... Culprit found. So I replaced the module and everything has been ship-shape. At the minute, she has Secchan installed, but I may upgrade to ME when I get the copy I ordered for my birthday. I also upgraded the Deathstar's firmware, so now it sounds more like a hard drive and less like a chainsaw... It should also stop it from killing itself, too.
Using Ubuntu now, don't think I'll go back.
Still using Vista, will install 7 when it launches, and i have also set aside space for a Linux, OSX 10.the-one-that-launches-along-with-7 and ChromeOS... ^_^
I'll wait for the final RTM release to be leaked, then install that on both DELTA and LAMBDA. Hopefully I'll keep it, too ^^;
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And Ubuntu
Got redirected here. Nice! I'll tell about my ladies.
Primary:Genuine Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600.
Manufacturer: PCChips with M963GV Model and American Megatrends BIOS x86 Machine Uni Processor
Sis mirage graphics with 1536 gb of RAM & 160 HDD, Floppy Disk and 2 DVD/CD RW drives. Genius Brand Speakers keyboard, mouse and michropone. All in Black color including the AOC CRT Monitor and DMAX Speedtouch black Modem. yes... I like black
I run Virtualization using Virtual PC 2007 SP1 on this machine and the guest ladies virtualized are:
MS IBM OS 2 Warp 4
MS DOS 6.22
MS Windows 1
MS Windows 2
MS Windows 3.11 for Workgroups
MS Windows NT 3.51 SP5
MS Windows NT 4.0 Workstation SP6a
MS Windows 95 C OSR 2.5
MS Windows 98 Second Edition
MS Windows Millenium Edition
MS Windows 2000 Professional SP4a
MS Windows Neptune RTM
MS Windows XP Home Edition SP3
MS Windows XP Professional SP3
MS Windows XP Fundamentals for Legacy PC's SP3
MS Windows Server 2003 Standard R2 SP2
MS Windows Vista Home Premium SP2
React OS 3.9
My Secondary PC is an Acer Laptop with 1gb of RAM 120 GB HDD Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with michrophone and camera included and Atheros internal wireless modem
Why do I call PC "ladies"? Don't ask.
QuoteWhy do I call PC's "ladies"? Don't ask.
It's not like you need to ask
us that kind of question, you know, as the answer is pretty obvious anyway.
I think you swapped an m for a g there in the RAM's, but meh.
And 1gb ram lappy with vista? That's not good for your health, sir.
I have to say, each of my computers has had its own name, most of them women's.
Heritage
The Reverend: Macintosh Plus, System 7 (fate unknown, presumed dead)
-Father's work computer, the first I ever saw. Introduced me to gaming and "Don't touch that!"
Chad: Macintosh Classic II, System 6 (deceased)
-Sort of our first home computer, turned on only when dad needed to work on a sermon. Originally my uncle's.
Rhoda: ?, running Windows 3.1 (deceased)
-Purchased at a yard sale in 2002, used for several years as a hobby of mine. Died when my mother hauled her to the dump.
Surviving Machines
Elizabeth: Dell Desktop 1996, Windows 95/98 (Slated for possible conversion)
-First ever home computer, so far has avoided Rhonda's fate by being stuck in a bag of Christmas ornaments
Emily: Dell Desktop 2003, Windows XP Home
-Current family computer, showing her age but beloved for her years of reliable service
Katharine: Dell Studio 15, Running Vista failing to run DSL
-My current laptop and the apple of my eye
Abigail: Dell Desktop 2007, Windows XP Pro
-test computer from a computer lab I put together
Mary Louisa: Inspiron, Windows 98SE
-Leader of the original computers for the lab, now used to run older games and for experimentation
Surviving, Nonfunctioning
Charlotte I: Old Casio Laptop, running Windows 98SE
-First laptop, non-functioning battery so I ran it off of a cable. Purchased at a yard sale in 2006. Screen ceased working in 2008, retired from service.
Charlotte II: Dell Inspiron 1500, Windows XP Pro
-Second gift from my uncle, also lacking a functioning battery. Provided reliable service until she ceased to turn on properly last month and now is retired.
My new current computer is an unnamed Apple iMac, 24''. Sh has a 2.93ghz Intel dual core processor, 4gb ddr3 SDRAM, 640gb HD and NVIDIA GeForce graphics card w/256mb GDDR3 memory.
Mac OSX 10.6 Snow Leopard is installed, but I'm going to virtualize Windows XP and Ubuntu.
(http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/294/6/2/The_New_Baby_by_BellaCielo.png)
What's the greenscreen terminal?
Ohh right I forgot, my XP's name is Milisha. The other virtual ladies are all unnamed yet. And the laptop is also unnamed but it it referred to as "The tiny one"
My computer = Overlord
all others = slaves
48 port switch = Overseer
Daughter = Chloe
Quote from: "Vash342"My computer = Overlord
OI.
DON'T GO AHEAD AND STEAL PEOPLE'S NAMES FOR YER DAMN TOYS, BRAT.
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Quote from: "Red_Machine"What's the greenscreen terminal?
It's the Swan Station Apple II/ III countdown computer... it's a Lost thing. http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Apple_II
I have to punch in the numbers every 108 minutes, or the world will implode (in principle :p)
You watch too much of that, Bella-san. ^-^;
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"You watch too much of that, Bella-san. ^-^;
Wha! There's no such thing as too much Lost! ^O^
Main computer: 2008 aluminum Macbook, 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5.7 as the main OS, and Macintosh System 6.0.8 (running under the Classic Mac emulator Mini vMac) as my secondary OS.
Today I tried running Macintosh System 7.5.3 (running under another Classic Mac emulator, Basilisk II) on my Macbook, and it failed. Miserably. The installations and setup were successful, but I couldn't get any applications running. Should have known. To me, System 7.5.x has been nothing but trouble! AAAAAUGH!
Secondary computer: Late 2005 Mac Mini, 1.5 GHz Power PC G4, 1 GB RAM, Mac OSX 10.4.11 and Mac OS 9.2.2 (as Classic Environment).
I use this computer for some editing work, and to scan my drawings, as my scanner doesn't work with OSX 10.5.
Tertiary computer: 1999 Blue + White Power Mac G3, 400 MHz Power PC G3, 256 MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.3.9 (formerly main OS), Mac OS 9.2.2 (now main OS on this computer. It doesn't run OSX very well).
Was my main computer from 2005 to 2008, even though it doesn't run OSX very well, the start up drive has issues, and Inkscape can be slow as molasses. Now I use it to play classic games under Mac OS 9.
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BTW, Bella, what if you have go to sleep?! Who is watching after that computer to prevent the world from imploding?! Or do you stay up all night, for the sake of the world?! o_o
That be quite a menagerie of Macs you have goin', Aurora-sama.
As for what I do when I have to sleep... hurhurhur... I just hired myself an insane Scotsman (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Desmond_Hume) to push the button on the late shift. I pay him in fine whisky and Dickens novels, he doesn't seem to complain.
OH, and Hurrah, I got Windows XP Pro installed in VirtualBox on meh Mac.
That reminds me...Win7 Ultimate is supposed to have XP Mode, right?
Can't find it. Huh.
You have to download it, first. And have a compatible processor.
Also, it come with Pro, Ultimate and Enterprise.
Well, I'm pretty sure my 2.5 Core2 Quad baby can handle the compatibility - and I'm running DELTA over Win7Ultimatex64 these days, so where the hell am I looking wrong?
You need to download it seperately.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx
Oooh.
Moo.
You're welcome.
Then again...
...I do have both XPPro and XP64 installed on DELTA anyway, so what would I need XP mode for...hm.
And the only thing I ever had troubles with on 7 was the network driver...and a rollback fixed that, and besides, xp mode is for applications...eeh.
Meh. I think we'll pass on this one.
Just weird.
But thanks anyway -w-;
Hows this for crazy s#!t-- I tried running Windows 2.0 under VMWare Player on XP under VirtualBox.
IT DIDN'T WORK BECAUSE XP WENT FATALISTIC AND CRASHED. And worse still, THE HOLE IN THE SPACETIME CONTINUUM STILL ISN'T CLOSED.
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I bet this is what broke the Large Hadron Collider.
No, that was me screwing around with the RL admin tools. Orange seriously needs to get a grip on his stuff.
Its official, DSL, Xubuntu, and Windows Vista
Plus =C64 run via emulator and soon FreeDOS.
Now I'm using a PC with AMD Phenom @ 2.3GHZ, 2GB of RAM and a HDD of 320 GB.
And ATI 3750 512Mb - better then 256 Mb version but also like shit.
Installed Windows 7 for the first time on one of my own computers :P (my portable, my new build coming soon will also have Win7).
Its becoming an obsession, now I'm trying to figure out how to work my new UNIVAC emulator.
You've lost it now...
...THE GAME.
Quote from: "stewartsage"Its becoming an obsession, now I'm trying to figure out how to work my new UNIVAC emulator.
Wut?! @@
I have WIndows 2.0 running on my Mac via Virtualbox, and OS/2 Warp running in WIndows XP. OH THE HILARITY.
I'm trying to re-assmble an old laptop to run Plan 9 from Bell Labs. Hopefully.....
Ehwha!?
Got a disk for it, but I don't want to wreck a decent computer so ol' Charlotte I is coming out of retirement.
lol, you should rename it Glenda.
Perhaps :D, even if it is doubtful it will work. She may just end up being the test bed for all my crazy whims.
Yeah, like my Hybrid will be once I get my new gaming computer sorted. AROS here I come!
DELTA-II is too nice a girl for anything but...
...on second thought, no, that argument doesn't work that way. Screw it.
Quote from: "stewartsage"I'm trying to re-assmble an old laptop to run Plan 9 from Bell Labs. Hopefully.....
That's gutsy, I've heard Plan 9 is really tough to work with. But I've also heard it's a very interesting study. :B
QuoteYeah, like my Hybrid will be once I get my new gaming computer sorted. AROS here I come
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Oooh, going to try an Amiga-like OS... cool.
I'm thinking of getting myself a small craptop and installing Puppy as the primary and only OS on it. It'd be fun. And I'd name it something weird, too, and paint its name on the lid. Yeah. Rawr.
QuoteThat's gutsy, I've heard Plan 9 is really tough to work with. But I've also heard it's a very interesting study. :B
Which is why in planning for failure, I have a disk for DSL and FreeDOS!
Quote from: "Bella"Oooh, going to try an Amiga-like OS... cool.
Yes, AmigaOS FTW!
Well, finally got my new computer built. Here's the specs:
3GHz AMD Athlon 64 x2
2GB PC2 6400 RAM
250GB Maxtor HDD
512MB nVidia GeForce 8600GT
All for the grand sum of £200. Building your own computer really IS the way to go...
Well since everyone post about his new hardware, here is my new stuff to
Acer Apire 9835G Notebook
Intel Q9000 quad core @2,2 GHz
ATI Raedon HD 4670 with 1 GB GDDR 3 RAM
4GB RAM DDR3 1066
500GB HD ( single disk )
OS â€" Vista Ultimate 64bit> I did some changes on the O/S so now it Nahas the Nanami Style and Sound Settings of the Japanese Win7 Ultimate Version
Acer Aspire One D250 Netbook
Intel Atom N280 single core HT @ 1,7GHz
Intel GMA4500 Graphics Card with 64 MB Shared Memory
2GB RAM DDR2 667
160 GB HD
OS-Vista Home Premium 32bit Nanami Style
Acer aspire Revo 3600 Nettop for watching DVD and HD movies on my HDTV ( 32inch screen )
Intel Atom 230 single core HT @ 1,7GHz
Nvidia Ion Chipset with Graphic 256MB shared RAM
2GB RAM DDR2 667
160 GB HD
OS-Vista Home Premium 32bit Nanami Style
Acer Extensa 3000WLiM_A ( now the oldest compute but still performs well with vista )
Intel Pentium M710 single core @ 1,4 GHz
ATI Mobility Raedon 9700 with 64 MB
2GB RAM DDR1 333
80GB HD
OS-Vista Home Premium 32bit Nanami Style / Windows Xp MCE2003
Now some of you will ask why I don’t switch to win7 , well to be honest there is no reason from the software side. The Kernel is the same and there are no really new functions , beside the task bar.
The better performance 5% is caused by the newer drivers from the manufacture , but what is 5 % ?
Overall it’s a good O/S with a good stability but the look and feel is dull, they sould have keep the vista like task bar with the new functions . If you have some hardware and only vista drivers , they run also on Win 7 and its also the opposide, win7 drivers run also on vista. I have a win7 license and used the Ultimate 64bit for 2 weeks but I had several problems with the ACPI power management , wich is important for notebooks , ( stand by mode and wake up / switching off of inactive devices and restarting them )
To make it shot, if win7 have been released in 2010 the programmers , may had more time to fix such small but nagging bugs.
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Quote from: "d4m4s74"Debian/GNU/Linux with Awesome WM on a Toshiba P300-123
First you come up as OS/2 in the "what OS are you test", and now this? Evidence of your awesomeness is growing. ^^
Since K8 is down and out (AGAAAAAAIN) I'm back to good ol' Mac OSX w/ XP and Win 2.0 running under emulator. I'm trying to get OS/2 to work in Virtualbox, but boot floppies are being a pain-in-the-ars--
I have OS/2 working in a virtual box. But I actually have a USB floppy drive to use with it...
Minix 3 on a disk now, I hope, and it'll probably be seeing action before Plan 9.
Currently operational: Xubuntu, Windows Vista, Windows XP Pro, DSL
Quote from: "Red-Machine"I have OS/2 working in a virtual box. But I actually have a USB floppy drive to use with it...
How did you get it to work? According to the people at VB forums, installing OS/2 (or, I should say, OS/2 v. 4 and before) in VirtualBox is close to impossible (at least for the newer versions of VB).
QuoteMinix 3 on a disk now, I hope, and it'll probably be seeing action before Plan 9.
Currently operational: Xubuntu, Windows Vista, Windows XP Pro, DSL
Quite a collection you have there. You seem to have taken a liking to rare Unixes. :B
Can't you just install it as usual? '>'
Quote from: "Bella"Quite a collection you have there. You seem to have taken a liking to rare Unixes. :B
So far thats all it is is a collection, I need to be near a computer to experiment with for longer then two minutes >>. That, and I'm downloading programs/"things" for Minix still.
Windows 7 (Custom Made)
Windows ME and Dualboot with Linspire (TwinHead P14n)
Windows 3.1 (Presario 5000)
its 2:00am here, so I will give the specs later.
Quote from: BellaQuote from: "Red-Machine"How did you get it to work? According to the people at VB forums, installing OS/2 (or, I should say, OS/2 v. 4 and before) in VirtualBox is close to impossible (at least for the newer versions of VB).
I'm using Warp 4, so maybe that's a little different. But the iso I have for it is bootable, so maybe that's what's going on. But I think that you could just use a 9x boot disk to make the partitions and run the installer from DOS.
Quote from: Red-MachineQuote from: "Bella"Quote from: "Red-Machine"How did you get it to work? According to the people at VB forums, installing OS/2 (or, I should say, OS/2 v. 4 and before) in VirtualBox is close to impossible (at least for the newer versions of VB).
I'm using Warp 4, so maybe that's a little different. But the iso I have for it is bootable, so maybe that's what's going on. But I think that you could just use a 9x boot disk to make the partitions and run the installer from DOS.
Oh, I meant OS/2 Warp 4. </facepalm>
How'd you make the disk bootable? I'm having a helluva time finding 9x (or actually, DOS 6.22) boot disks, or at least the .ima images for them. :<
Hmmm, well it appears that it WASN'T bootable. But, www.bootdisk.com has plenty of boot disks.
the laptop that i use most frequently is a Dell Studio 1555 laptop
2.14GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
512MB ATI Radeon Video
4GB DDR2 SDRAM
320GB SATA hard drive
Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit Service Pack 2
This is an old clunker that I have sitting around but I still use it once in a while
Dell Optiplex GX150
931MHz Intel Pentium 3
32MB Nvidia GE Forcce4 MX 4000 video
512MB DDR SDRAM
30GB Hardrive with PC Linux OS
40GB Hardrive with Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3
(The XP Professional i had to hack into because of Microsoft 100% lame Windows Genuine Advantage tool)
It appears that I might be able to install linux+7 on my family's media box. Nejin is happy. -w-
Yeeeeey~!
So, K8 may or may not be up and running again-- the damn thing kept turning itsself off (after a very loud heat fan would switch on), I threw her old HD + RAM back inside and it seems to have stopped. SEEMINGLY.''
Could damaged/defective RAM cause said symptoms? O.o
This would mean I now have a rtarded-and-nlited XP Pro machine at my disposal. It can't detect wireless networks and doesn't even have a hibernate/standby option, but hey, it's fast so who cares.
Yes, Bella. Bad RAM could very likely be the cause of your problem there.
well lesseee i got a asus desktop running vista pro 64 en route to win7 pro or kubuntu (still havent made up my mind yet), dell 1555 on win 7 pro, and a eeepc 1005HA on eeebuntu
QuoteYes, Bella. Bad RAM could very likely be the cause of your problem there.
That's good to know. :D
Quotewell lesseee i got a asus desktop running vista pro 64 en route to win7 pro or kubuntu (still havent made up my mind yet), dell 1555 on win 7 pro, and a eeepc 1005HA on eeebuntu
I'd vote for Kubuntu-- because Ubuntu is awesome and uses and a ton less resources than Windows 7.
Than again, why choose? Why not do a dual-boot with the two?
yeah i think i'll dual boot i was wanting to avoid it since i didnt realy want 2 machines on win 7 and put that power to good use but then again it has more than enough oomph to run both nicely or i could just use wine
the specs on the desktop are
i7 920 proc 2.66Ghz
1Tb HDD
9Gb RAM DDR3
nvidia GeForce GTX260
dual 23" panels
i used to run kubuntu 8.10 on an old machine before it died a while back and i liked KDE a lot more than gnome so i think i'm going that route again
got two computer running windows xp, pro and home
the one running windows sp
2.4ghz pentium 4 processor
2gb ram
around 400gb spaces, 3 HD
nvidia 8600gt 512mb vram
19" crt monitor
the one running windows xp home
800mhz amd processor
512mb ram
80gb spaces
nvidia FX5500 256mb vram
17" crt monitor
both is old pc but both work without problem~
I have 6 computers in this household, with varying specs.
This computer I use now has the following specs;
2 GB Ram DDR2
3.06 GHz Intel CPU
160 GB HDD - Linux Kubuntu (Karmic Koala)
200 GB HDD - Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 x86
1 GB AMD RADEON 3870 gfx
Soundblaster Audigy CE Sound card
My laptop is a;
2 GB DDR2
1.6 GHz Dual Core AMD Turion
160 GB - Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 x86
256 MB nVidia (Model unknown)
Inbuilt soundcard
My other main PC contains;
2 GB DDR
3.2 GHz Intel CPU
200 GB HDD - Windows XP Service Pack 3 x86
512 MB RADEON 2xxx series
Soundblaster Audigy CE Sound card
My older PC has the following specs;
256 MB SDRAM
800 MHz Intel CPU
40 GB HDD - Windows ME
64 MB nVidia gfx card.
The old laptop without a hard drive contains;
2 GB DDR
2.26 GHz AMD CPU
DVD-Drive - Linux CD Based OS
128 MB gfx card
And finally, my newest PC contains;
6 GB DDR3
3.06 Intel i7 950
750 GB HDD - Windows Vista Home Premium SP 2 x64
1 GB AMD RADEON 4670 gfx card
Quote from: "RichardTurnbull"My older PC has the following specs;
256 MB SDRAM
800 MHz Intel CPU
40 GB HDD - Windows ME
64 MB nVidia gfx card.
That's exactly the same as my legacy PC!
K8 is screwy again (she's acting up even with the other HD), so I'm mostly back to using the iMac.
I got Ubuntu to work on VirtualBox though, so now I'm running Karmic Koala.
Mac Os X 10.6.2
A rebuild video I made in case anybody's interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbmgnrOAeAU
I now have a new PC ^_^
ASUS M4A78-AM microATX Socket AM2+ mainboard
AMD Athlon II X2 240 (2x2800MHz) processor
3GB DDR2 RAM
ASUS EN950GT 512MB videocard
LG 22-8-16 DVD-RW
25GB WD SATA-II Harddisk
Built the little thing so i would have a PC on the base without using my main PC, wich i wanted to keep at home ^_^
Why the puny hard drive? '~'
Typo methinks.
I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate on a LG R500.
Specs:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8100 @
2046 MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS
298 GB Hard Drive - Odd number, I know. It's probably a 320, but whatever =P
Quote from: "Roujo"NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS
Epic card that. I have it in my laptop, too.
LAMBDA has a GeForce 9600M GTS... >:3
/brag
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"LAMBDA has a GeForce 9600M GTS... >:3
Nice! d(^_^)b
I'm pretty happy with my 8600M GS, it runs Runes of Magic just fine. Sure, I always play with the graphics washed down to prevent any lag, but when I get tired of them I know that I can put every option on "Maximum" and still get a good experience. =)
Yesh, damn. The only thing she's ever failed to run smoothly is Street Fighter IV on full resolution...
...which is 1920*1080. -w-; Might see where the problem is there.
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"LAMBDA has a GeForce 9600M GTS... >:3
/brag
Meh. That's just an 8600 with slightly higher clock rates.
BTW, I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in my old server?
Specs:
CPU: Dual Pentium III 550MHz (Socket 1)
RAM: 256MB
HDD: 20-40GB SCSI (I believe)
GPU: Unsure
Drives: CD-ROM, 3.5" FDD
Case: Old-style server rack mount, thick metal, lockable access panel (prevents access to buttons, CD-ROM & FDD)
PM me if you're interested!
Er...I'm pretty sure the 9600 GTS is a sped-up 9600 GT, since the 8600 series is quite a bit older...that, or Nvidia has a lotta shit to answer for.
Usually, you can't compare nVidia GPUs for portables with GPUs for desktops. For instance the GTX280M GPUs for portables arent directly related the the GTX280s for desktops. The GTX280M is just a 9800-series GPU. Kinda sucks, but that's the way they do it. ATI doesn't do that apparently, in their camp, the GPUs are directly comparable.
CPU : AMD AthlonX2 5600+ Windsor core 2.8Ghz @ 3.1 Ghz
RAM : Corsair Dominator v1.1 D9's @ 800Mhz 4-4-4-12
Motherboard : ASUS Crosshair 590SLI chipset
GPU : eVGA GTX260 55nm SSC edition
HDD : WD 300GB . & Seagate 750GB
Sound card : Custom that came with board.
OS : Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
I've just recently upgraded my desktop to Windows 7... I also got a WIMAX-enabled netbook from Clear recently and it came with XP, but I've currently got it triple-booting Windows 7, XP, and Ubuntu Netbook Remix (I wasn't sure if I would want 7 over XP on a netbook).... and then there's my older Toshiba tablet that runs XP Tablet edition... and I've got a portable usb hard drive that boots Ubuntu... and I have a usb thumb drive setup to use grub2 to boot from either an ubuntu netbook remix or tinycore iso :D
~Troop
i'm using Win Xp Profesional editon in my office
mac snowy
Desktop:
HP Pavilion M9180.sc-a
Graphics card: Nvidia 8800GT 512mb
CPU: AMD Phenom 9500 QC @ 2.2ghz
RAM: 3gb DDR2 (no info on the frequence though)
HDD: 2 500gb SATA @ 7200rpm
Motherboard: Asus M2N68-LA
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit
Laptop: Acer extrensa 7630
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3470 512mb
CPU: Intel core 2 duo @ 2.0ghz i think it was
RAM: 2 gb DDR3 (No info on frequence)
HDD: 1 320gb SATA @ 7200rpm
Motherboard: ?
OS: Win 7 home premium 32 bit
Have a new system with a Athlon II x2 (2x2800Mhz), 3GB RAM,250GB Western Digital HDD wich now refuses to boot windows 7, windows startup recovery, windows setup and Linux Live-CDs since i installed an ATI Radeon 4600...
So i have to buy a new system and use this one with it's onboard videocard as an HTPC.
Quote from: "Smokey"Have a new system with a Athlon II x2 (2x2800Mhz), 3GB RAM,250GB Western Digital HDD wich now refuses to boot windows 7, windows startup recovery, windows setup and Linux Live-CDs since i installed an ATI Radeon 4600...
THAT'S why you don't buy ATI!
Well it beats a 9500GT.....
or an 8800GT(X)
Meh, gimmie my 8600GT anyday.
Well, the reason i don't/didn't use the 8800GT(X) is because they are soldered poorly...
But i use ATI cards nowadays because the mainboards i use them on have AMD/ATI chipsets... ^_^
Actually mine's kind wierd that way. AM2+ mobo with nForce 4 chipset.
Heh, yep. I have an AM2+ board with aparently a nVidia chipset too.
Maybe that explains why it won't boot with the ATI card... ^_^
lol. Oh nVidia! tsk tsk
Well, be it the chipset or no, this is by far the weirdest "bug" I've ever had... (in over 21 years of working with computers ^_^)
My ol and aging PC
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/ViperXtreme/DSC00107-1.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/ViperXtreme/DSC00109-1.jpg)
Duke Du08A Mesh Casing, 1x120mm intake fan , 1x120mm exhaust fan and 1x80mm lower side exhaust for vcard
Windows 7 x64 (need moar ram, pic is old so its still showing XP)
AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ OC from 2.7 to 3Ghz (Socket AM2 Brisbane)
CoolerMaster Hyper TX2 Tower Heatpipe CPU cooler
ECS nForce4m-A HT2000 chipset Motherboard
2GB Corsair Dual-Channel DDR2 667Mhz
Seagate 160GB 7200RPM ATA100 HDD
Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM ATA133 HDD
Seagate FreeAgent Desk 1TB External USB2.0 HDD
LG GSA-H55L Lightscribe DVD-/+RW (MultiWriter) (IDE)
LiteON DVD/CDRW combo (IDE)
Inno3D GeForce 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 256bit PCI-E (675/1700/1900)
Integrated Realtek AC97 6 channel Audio (messed up )
Encore ENM232-8VIA (VIA Vinyl Envy24 based Tremor audio chipset)
Integrated nVidia Nforce 10/100 Ethernet Conroller
Realtek R8187 Wireless Lan and AP USB
HEC 475W PowerOP PSU
A4Tech X-Slim KLS-7MU Keyboard w/ mic and earphone jack + USB 2.0 port
A4Tech X-750BF 3XFire Game Laser mouse 2000DPI (PS/2) +Rantopad SC2 mousepad
Logitech RumblePad2 Dual Analog Gamepad USB
blue cold cathode light
LG Flatron L1753S 17" LCD Monitor
Altec Lansing ATP3 2.1 Speakers.
A4Tech HD-800 7.1 Channel Dolby Surround headset USB
Aegis LC-500 High Performance AVR(//)
;______; so....beautiful....
the one i'm on right now is a school computer in the computer lab, but i've got a pretty cozy setup here now thanks to the class i'm in.
i'm an administrator on XP pro, running off of a computer built for Windows 2k SP1. It's an Antec, but that's all i can see about it. ^^;
Ah, so it's picures of our PC's we're posting eh?
Well then, let's se....
*ruffle, ruffle*
(http://94.100.119.245/538900001-538950000/538948401-538948500/538948420_5_eqm6.jpeg)
This is still my main PC, although i have changed a couple of things since this pic was taken (added a 120mm fan in the back and a 120mm blue led fan in the front, so there's two of 'em now.) so i will update later, probably in rhe randompic thread so i wont hijack this topic with a buttload of pics... ^_^
Specs still the same, tho:
Mainboard : ASUS M2N-32 Deluxe WiFi (sAM2)
CPU : AMD Athlon X2 4800+
GPU : 2x ASUS EN9500GT 512MB
HDD a grand total of ~1800GB
Onboard sound
DVD-RW
Iijama 19" widescreen monitor
Creative 2.1 speakers
Will update soon, this PC is due for a major overhaul since it is already 2 years old... ^_^
Oh, if it's that you want, then...
DOZO☆
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/NejinOniwa/Myself/Screenshots/DELTA.jpg)
DELTA is currently equipped with:
1140GB of HDD
Intel Q9300 2.5GHz 4C CPU
Sapphire Radeon HD4870 512MB
An ASUS VW222U 22" monitor (16:10)
A Logitech GXsomething 5.1 surround system with a woofer that speaks with a DON
All hooked up to an ASUS P5E3 Premium WiFi-AP@N mainboard.
Loevs mai DELTA. -w-
Oh, and have some smexy LAMBDA as well, while you're at it.
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/NejinOniwa/Myself/Screenshots/LAMBDA.jpg)
320GBs of HDD, 4GB DDR3(!), 1024(-2303MB) GeForce 9600M, 18.4 1080p screen, all the bells and whistles, really.
That vista tag was there a few minutes ago when I shot this, before I realized that since I have 7 on it now it shouldn't really stay there...so it's gone now. Too lazy to shoot a new pic though ->-
My computer theory: Computers are like girls, it's a big bonus if they look good on the outside but it's the soul that matters :3
Yes indeedy.
Sorry for the double post, but here's my setup. Also, apologies for the appaling picture quality.
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/Picture0007-1.jpg)
On the left is my Performa 6200 and on the right is Chachamaru, my gaming PC. Specs as follows:
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (3.0GHz)
Memory: 2GB RAM
Hard Drive: 250 GB SATA Maxtor (which, for some reason is listed as SCSI)
Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Monitor: Hanns-G HX191D 19-inch monitor
Sound Card: Realtek High Definition Audio
Operating System: Windows Vistaâ,,¢ Home Premium 64-Bit
Motherboard: MSI K9N6PGM2-V
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/Picture0008.jpg)
WOWOMGIt'sARealMac!!!1!!!.5!!!
awesome! ^_^
Will post pics of my macbook bro's soon ;010
I ordered some hardware for my new computer a few days ago ^_^
Gigabyte GA-790FXTA-UD5 Motherboard
AMD Athlon II X2 245 @ 2.9GHz
Will buy graphics card, RAM, Harddrives, PSU, other stuff and chassi when i get the motherboard ^_^
Heh, cool... I bought one of the last -245s here in holland a couple of weeks ago... they are discontinued here and currently unavailabe... ^_^
I like having one of the last of things :D
Haha yeah they are selling em out dead cheap here aswell, bought it cuz im waiting for the Phenom II x6 and i felt that buying a x4 wasn't really neccesary :3
Same here...
Using him as a placeholder... ^_^
currently running two machines; one custom built( by yours truly) and one store bought.
Main PC:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40ghz
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4670
Ram: 4GB DDR2 1066
HDD: Seagate 250GB SATA
Seagate 120GB PATA
OS: Win 7 Home Premium 32bit, Vista Home Premium 64bit
Ubuntu Jaunty Jacklope (triple boot)
Display: 20 inch Acer Widescreen LCD with 32' 1080P HDTV
for movies
Netbook:
Acer Aspire One 751h with XP home
Debian now.
Main: Gateway LX
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20 GHz
Ram: 8 GB
OS': Windows 7 Ultimate, Linux Ubuntu 9.10 (soon to be Linux Ubuntu 10.04)
Hard Drive: Unknown 750 GB (Main), Maxtor 6 200 GB (Backup)
Monitors: Gateway HD1900, Philips 150S3
Graphics: ASUS NVIDIA Geforce GT 120
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q364/tcmapler/DSCF1050.jpg)
Secondary: MGCW (Mobile Ghetto Computer Workstation) (Old Dell comp)
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 1.80 GHz
Ram: 1 GB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 80 GB (extra space), Maxtor 6 150 GB (main)
Monitors: Anything it can connect to
Graphics: Unknown
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q364/tcmapler/DSCF3002.jpg)(//)
I guess I should post an update in here now that I have my dual-boot up-and-running.
Gateway 310S
Intel Celeron 2.4GHz
Maxtor 60GB ATA (master)
Western Digital 40GB ATA (slave)
ATI Radeon 7000 VE
Gateway FPD1540
Old compy is old...
Onto the actual question of OSes:
Xubuntu 8.04.1 Hardy Heron (installed on the master)
Windows XP Home Edition SP3 (installed on the slave)
My even older backup compy's HDD crashed... yeah.
Speaking of HDDs, is it okay for your backup's HDDs to be lying sideways like that, Kraus? I mean, if an HDD isn't laying perpendicular to the ground doens't it increase the likelihood of a crash? Another note, your sig is a scooch too big, (10px too high and 100px too wide (http://ostan-collections.net/viewtopic.php?t=1167)) just thought I'd point it out.
Well the drives can only stay in the case if I put them like that but I mainly just put them flat on the floor or something when used, otherwise they work fine!
Sorry about the sig, I'll see about resizing it!
I had a similar issue with my case, I just did a trick with the mounting screws to get them to fit. As long as you can get them to work without all the whirring and other weird noises, I guess everything's fine XD.
I really don't think anyone will mind your sig all that much since it doesn't eff the borders or anything, but I thought I'd say something about it before Fedora brought your attention to it. It's barely noticeable really, but a resize would certainly help.
Gaming Desktop
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Motherboard: ASUS M4A79T Deluxe
RAM: 4GiB (2x2GiB) OCZ Platinum DDR3-1333 (7-7-7-20)
Video: PNY GeForce 8800GTX
Display: Viewsonic VX922
Audio: Onboard Realtek (Not sure of chipset), w/ Tritton AX360 Headset
HDD: 320GB Seagate (NTFS)
HID: Logitech G15, Logitech G5
Case: XION 103
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Laptop
Make: Sager
Model: NP2098
CPU: Intel P8700
RAM: 4GB DDR3 (Not sure of speed or timings)
Video: ATi Mobility Radeon HD4650
HDD: 320GB (ext2/swap/ext4/NTFS)
OS: Gentoo Linux i686 (WM: Awesome) & Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Home server/Router/HTPC
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E6700
Motherboard: ASUS P5B Deluxe
RAM: 2GB DDR2-800 (Unsure of timings)
Video: XFX GeForce 8600GT (256MB)
Display: Hitachi 46" HD (480p/720p/1080i) CRT Projection TV (Hey, for the low low price of $0, I can't complain.)
HDD: 320GB Seagate (ext2/ext3), 1TB WD (XFS), 500GB WD (Reiserfs [don't ask])
HID: Streamzap PC Remote, OpenSSHd
OS: Gentoo Linux i686 (WM: XBMC 9.11)
Those are just my main PCs, pics later. :3
Well, well. Looks like someone has been splunging about... -w-
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"splunging
Wait, what?
Do you really want to know? -w-
I have an old windows XP running computer, and right now I'm posting on my Ubuntu running comp with roughly the same specs, and I must say that ubuntu makes things so much faster for me ^_^
Apparently the 5-years old VAIO runs like a totally different computer under Mint...so yeah. Linux has that effect, generally.
It helps that antimalware and other security software isn't really a concern when running Linux. Combine this with the general lack of bells-and-whistles of most Linux programs, and there you have it, a less-bloated OS.
Interestingly enough, though, its software manager still offers me an install of Clam Antivirus... I wonder now. -w-
It's a good idea to have Clam AV installed. It doesn't really have much of a presence resource-wise, unless you install a GUI, and even then impact is minimal. It's not a huge concern, but it's nice to have there if you're also working with a Windows computer (it's unlikely your Linux system will ever be infected with a virus, but it can still be a potential carrier, you know?). You should most definitely install chkrootkit and rkhunter, as rootkits are a universal threat.
There's a bit of an issue when install clamav from the repos... the virus defintions are out-of-date.
Well, I figured it would be something like that. Ah, well.
desktop going to be dual-booting ubuntu and windows 7.....
if i get a new laptop, i may make desktop pure ubuntu....
then there are the other two laptops in the shop, one will be running puppy and the other might be dead.....
My favorite operating system is Windows 7 all the way. Windows 7 is the latest Windows Operating System designed to make life much simpler and easier for you. This is purely aesthetic...
Not saying it has its quirks around would be quite a lie, however..
W-W-W-Windows Seven!!
Speaking of Win7...guhehehehehehhehehehHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
I'm a proud Windows 7 nonuser. >:3 Though if you like it, I say more power to you-- Windows just isn't my thing.
I use WinVista Home Basic(works VERY good).
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo
RAM: 2 GB
HDD: 137 GB
Graphics by NVIDIA.
Running Fedora 13 (live CD, need new hard drive to install it) on my old (has Windows 2000) Compaq computer, love the auto print support.
Current Machine is a fairly old Windows XP MCE that can't run Media center anymore since I am to lazy to fix it.
I used to have a working Dell OptiPlex GX 110 that had a dual boot configuration that I installed with Mandriva 2009 with GNOME and Windows XP professional, but the computer amber light on me and died the next day of installing. Should of went with Fedora, oh well scrapped the parts to improve Compaq computer.
Also I have four other inactive computers with one of those totally scrapped which used to be a windows 2000 and one is an old HP Pavilon computer that has Windows 98. The other two I have not booted and might have Windows Me or Windows 2000.
Now using my brother's laptop, Molly.
Toshiba Tecra A8
CPU: Intel T2300
RAM: .99 GB
HDD: 70.1 GB
Windows XP Service Pack 3
I have 10 working computers in all, but only 7 that are accessable. Here are my main ones:
DOS Laptop:
Toshiba Satelite Pro 410CDT
Pentium 90MHz
40MB RAM
2GB HDD
MS-DOS 6.22 & Windows for Workgroups 3.11
Legacy PC:
Pentium !!! 1GHz
512MB RAM
One 30GB HDD and one 10GB HDD
16MB 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 (soon to be replaced with a 128MB nVidia GeForce2 MX400
Windows 98SE & Windows XP
Laptop:
Limited Edition Packard Bell EasyNote MB-88 P-003
Core2 Duo 1.66GHz
2GB RAM
160GB HDD
512MB nVidia GeForce 8600M GS
Windows Vista Home Premium
Gaming PC:
Athlon64 X2 3GHz
2GB RAM
250GB HDD
384MB nVidia GeForce 8800GS (was a 1GB GeForce 8600GT)
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
I prefer windows 7, since Microsoft will stop the support of windows xp soon(if they did not stop yet).In addition, in near future you will find that most of the application will not support windows XP.
Who just bought a 2GB 5850? I did!
Case: Hp a210n
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate (Got a free copy from a computer store that forgot one in a bulk case box they threw out.)
Motherboard: 790GX-XE
CPU: AMD Rana 2.7ghz OC to 3.4ghz tricore
RAM: 6gb ddr2 900mhz (Free ram from my school throwing away computers with ram still in it.)
HDD: Western Digital Green 500gb
Seagate 500gb
IDE 160gb 15000rpm drive
Expantion bays:
Lite-on Dvdrw drives x2
GPU: Biostar ATI Radeon HD 4650 (512mb ddr3.)
USB:
OCZ Equalizer Z 2500BPI Mouse
Generic HP USB Keyboard
Wacom Bamboo touch & pen
Eyetoy Camera
Logitech Camera (Uses for mic.)
Dance Dance Revolution Mat (For Step Mania)
Generic HP Controller ( for Tv tuner.)
Monitors: Dell ftp2005 20"
Samsung SM 2233 23"
Acer 20"
(my new monitor when i get paid: 42" Westinghouse VM-42F140S)
Speakers: Sony STR-G3 Stereo Receiver with a Subwoofer, two 100w Speakers, two 80w speakers and a 150 center speaker.
Things I am going to get in the next 6-8 months:
42" Westinghouse VM-42F140S 428.00 USD
Backlit Keyboard
Blue Transparent Neon Computer Case
Sounds light I spent a lot but most of my stuff was free! I only paid 700.00 for it all, the monitors were all together only 180.00!
Toshiba Satellite L305 Laptop
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
2.15 gigahertz Intel 585
2GB RAM
160GB HD
For Internet Use
------
(Self Built, No Brand) Desktop
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
2.93 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Quad
4 GB RAM + 512MB HD Graphics Card (Biostar)
160GB HD
For Recording, Editing, Filming, etc.
------
Backed up and stored files into:
Seagate FreeAgentGo 500GB External Hard Drive
Quote from: "Alex_Reetz"
GPU: Biostar ATI Radeon HD 4650 (512mb ddr3.)
lol I have the 4600!
Suppose I should add her:
TRS-80 Model I, TRS-DOS
(http://www.mrmartinweb.com/images/computer/trs80model1lg.jpg)
I can see this going an insane 1kb/sec. That's A THOUSAND BYTES!!!
Hey, I have 48k of RAM. That counts for something....
Quote from: "stewartsage"Hey, I have 48k of RAM. That counts for something....
At least it's over nine thousand.
I am using Ubuntu Linux with Windows XP and Windows 7 running in Sun VirtualBox VMs. The majority of my work is unix-based, so it just makes sense for me.
Time I updated my compooter spec I bet.
ASUS Tower...
-- ATI Radeon 5750 1 GB (OEM)
-- 450 Watt Power Supply (Because ASUS Only loads the minimum needed power supply, always. OEM)
-- AMD Phenom II X6 2.6 (SIX CORES FOR REALS, and not just threads. Goddess, I hate Intel for making HyperThreading... but I guess that means AMD can never do it. YAY!)
-- ASUS 24" 1080p LCD Monitor (DVI)
-- 8 GB Of RAM (OEM)
-- 1 TB Harddrive (This Brings the WEI Score down to 5.9, very slow HDD, but the processor makes it work like it's faster. OEM)
-- DVD-RW Drive (OEM)
-- Windows 7 x64 OEM from ASUS
I really need to upgrade the power supply to like 800 Watts then get an Nvidia GTX card of some kind (480 or 470?)
I recently upgraded a lot of stuff in this:
-AMD Athlon II X2 250 (3GHz)
-4GB RAM
-Palit GeForce GTS 250 512MB E-Green Edition (OC'd to near standard GTS 250 speeds)
-Sony DRU-530A DVD-RW drive (free)
-Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB hard drive
-DGM 22" monitor (1680x1050 DVI) (possibly free)
-SoundBlaster Audigy 2 (free)
-Saitek Cyborg V1 gaming keyboard
-Trust GXT 14S gaming mouse
Free?
free is the most win number EVUR. ^^ (i would know, all of my computers were FREE!!!)
lesee....
THIS(one i'm on) computer:
HP Pavillion 6000 Special Edition Laptop
2 GB RAM
AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobil Technology TL - 56 1.80 Ghz (x2)
Lightscribe DVD Drive
high-def audio
built in webcam and mic
built in wireless
109 GB drive
.....that's basically all i know. limited info since i can't find the pagen with all the specs.
THIS (one next to me) computer:
ASUS A7V333 Motherboard
almost a gig of ram
AMD processor
300W power supply
COMBO DVD Drive
Netgear Wireless Card
150 GB and 80 GB Disk Drives (not connected)
.....currently disconnected from power, being reworked and cobbled together with screws, tape, and thread.
Best way to find system specs on any Windows machine:
Start > Run (if windows XP or older)> dxdiag
Start > Type (if Vista or newer) dxdiag
The DirectX Diagnostic Tool has information on most of your stuff.
Interesting. I remember the default memory for LAMBDA's graphics card being 1gb, and the sticker says it goes up to 2303MB; dxdiag tells me the video memory is "approximately 2798mb". Wtf?
Well, it'll be using either TurboCache (if it's nVidia) or HyperMemory (if it's ATI) which uses system RAM to supplement dedicated video RAM. Windows might be doing something a little different than the manufacturer expected when they said 2303MB.
TurboCache it says, and it's an nVidia, so yeah - funny though, still...
My graphics card has 2GB of dedicated Video RAM :3
speedy's display ram is unknown. however, she's using a nvidia.
replacing my ol, rusty and cheap duke du08a with a new but still cheap Aerocool PGS VS-9 :|
had to work on it for quite some time to make it look clean...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/ViperXtreme/resized/vs94r.jpg)
Before...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/ViperXtreme/pics/BeFore.jpg)
And then...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/ViperXtreme/pics/After2.jpg)
NOW...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/ViperXtreme/pics/REV21.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/ViperXtreme/pics/REV22.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/ViperXtreme/pics/REV23.jpg)
a small update from my old and poor man's rig...
AeroCool PGS VS-9 Chassis, 1 x 120mm intake, 1 x 120mm between HDD (sandwiched) 1 x 120mm exhaust, 1 x 80mm intake (from below, this one needs to get replaced, its annoyingly loud anyway...)
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ OC from 2.7 to 3Ghz (Socket AM2 Brisbane)
CoolerMaster Hyper TX2 Tower Heatpipe CPU cooler
ECS nForce4m-A HT2000 chipset Motherboard
2GB Corsair + 1GB Kingston DDR2 667Mhz
Seagate 160GB 7200RPM ATA100 HDD
Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM ATA133 HDD
Seagate FreeAgent Desk 1TB External USB2.0 HDD
LG GSA-H55L Lightscribe DVD-/+RW (MultiWriter) (IDE)
Inno3D GeForce 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 256bit PCI-E (680/1700/1900)
Encore ENM232-8VIA (VIA Vinyl Envy24 based Tremor audio chipset)
Integrated nVidia Nforce 10/100 Ethernet Conroller
HEC 475W PowerOP PSU
A4Tech X-Slim KLS-7MU Keyboard w/ mic and earphone jack + USB 2.0 port
A4Tech X-750BF 3XFire Game Laser mouse 2000DPI (PS/2) +Rantopad SC2 mousepad
Logitech RumblePad2 Dual Analog Gamepad USB
LG Flatron L1753S 17" LCD Monitor
Altec Lansing ATP3 2.1 Speakers.
A4Tech HD-800 7.1 Channel Dolby Surround headset USB
Aegis LC-500 High Performance AVR
Main Computer
Name:Venus
OS:Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Case:Cooler Master Centurion 5 midtower Case
Motherboard:Asus P7P55D
PSU:900w Cooler Master
RAM:2gb ddr3 Corsair Gamers Edition x2
GPU:Asus Nvidia Geforce GTX275 1gb *oc all the way to 11*
CPU:Intel Quad Core i7 860 2.80ghz
Monitor: Samsung Sync Master 940bw 19inch
DVD:DVD+R DL Drive
HDD: 2tb Wester Digital HDD x2
1tb Hitachi Deskstar HDD
500gb Samsung HDD x2
NAS: 500gb Samsung HDD x4 connected via ethernet
Cooling:6x totally unnecessary fans
My desktop computers are named after planets, so Venus eventual successor would be named Terra. Since I suck at naming things.
Tablet/Netvertible?
Name:Edy
Model:Acer 1825ptz
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium x64
Size:11.6 inches
Screen:1,366 x 768 capacitive multi touch screen
CPU:1.3GHz Intel SU4100 dual core
GPU:Intel's GMA 4500MHD *Crap*
HDD:500gb
Edy here acts as my book and manga reader.She also plays a mean game of Osu! and other doujin games.
Was originally gonna name Edy "Kitt", install android x64 on it and hang it in my car while setting it up to yell "Turbo Boost" every time I speed but couldn't find a dock big enough for my car ;x.
-Windows 7 Ultimate x32
-4gb ddr2 800
-Coolermaster GM950 Case
-Antec 550w Performance Power supply
-Coolermaster hyperx heatsink with two 92mm fans
-intel core2quad 2.50ghz OC to 3.2ghz 4mb cache
-ATI Radeon HD 4850 512mb (bought for 23.00, it is a beast!)
-Seagate 500gb HDD
-2x Lite-ON dvd-dl -rw drives x24
-Generic usb internal hub
-Gigibite p43-ud3l motherboard
-Visio 22" LED HDTV as monitor
-Wacom Bamboo pen and touch
-WD 500gb External Drive (aka porn drive.)
-HP keyboard
-OCZ equalizer 3500bpi mouse
-Sony eyetoy (camera)
-Logitech QuickCam 2000 (mic)
-Sony STR-g3 Stereo Receiver
-x2 500w Sony speakers
-x2 pioneer 100w speakers
-one Taco
That makes up my new computer.
i have 4 computers a desktop and laptop that run XP a netbook that runs Win7 Starter and a tablet that dualboots Win7 home and Ubuntu 10.4
UNNECESSARY FACT CORNER TIEM
According to my uTorrent logs (since I never delete shit from there) that persist despite the OS change and the fuckup over spring break, LAMBDA first downloaded a Torrent (Ep1 of Yoku Wakaru Gendai Mahou, btw) at 11:36 on the 14th of July, last year. I would guess by my habits that it'd mean she was "born" on the 13th. So, happy belated-by-2½-months 1st birthday, LAMBDA! EVERYBODY CHEER~
I feel nostalgic now -w-;
The hard drive in my gateway died but my dad let me throw in a 1TB he had around.
Ghetto Comp/Box is now called the LinuxBox due to only running Fedora 13 and Ubuntu 10.10 Beta right now. Just going to test out new releases to Linux and such on it.
HAPPY B-DAY LAMBDA.
my gateway is around 1 1/2 old now and getting slower day to day. Hope I can upgrade her before it gets serious (She has 8GB of RAM, 1200GB of space, Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2.20GHz)
You might want to check up on the software level, with hardware of that kind... -w-
Also, it's confirmed: DELTA's network uplink works only when you boot her on a monday. It's screwed up... >_>
Just got a new laptop from a company whom thought it was broken for good. The hard drive is just a failing and doesn't last longer then a day so I'm just running Ubuntu 10.4 off a USB flash drive and its working great!
Acer TravelMate 5720
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz
Memory: 2GB ddr2
Fingerprint scanner, bluetooth, and other little things are packed into this little powerhouse.
Specs for my newly recommissioned Charlotte II and some tags for the rest.
Dell Inspiron 8500(2003)
Name: Charlotte II
CHN: AN/PYK-02
CPU: Pentium 4-M 2.5 GHz
Memory: 502 MB
HDD: 48.4 GB
OS: Linux Mint Release 6 (Felicia)/Linux Mint SciMod-C
Dell Studio 15 (2009)
Name: Katharine
CHN: AN/PYK-03
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.20 GHz
Memory: 4 GB
HDD: 465 GB
OS: Windows Vista 64-bit Service Pack 2
Emulated: Too many to name
TRS-80 Model I Level II (1978)
Name: Lily
CHN: AN/TYK-05
CPU: Zilog Z80 1.78 MHz
Memory: 48 Kb
HDD: None
OS: TRS-DOS
Dell Dimensions Desktop (2003)
Name: Emily
CHN: AN/TYK-04
OS: Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2
Casio Multimedia Laptop (1998)
Name: Charlotte I
CHN: AN/PYK-01
OS: Windows 98SE
Dell Dimensions Desktop (1995)
Name: Elizabeth
CHN: AN/TYK-03
OS: Windows 95
Powerbook 165 (1993)
Name: Prinzessin
CHN: AN/PYK-04
CPU: Motorola 68030 33 MHz
Memory: 4 MB
HDD: ?
OS: System 7.?
Kaypro 2X (1984)
Name: Ada
CHN: AN/TYK-06
CPU: Z80A 4 MHz
Memory: 65 KB
HDD: None
OS: CP/M 2.22
Apple ][ Plus (1979/1980)
Name: Beatrix
CHN: AN/TYK-07
CPU: MOS Technology 6502
Memory: 64 KB (has language card)
HDD: None
OS: Apple DOS
Quote from: "stewartsage"TRS-80 Model I Level II (1978)
Name: Lily
CHN: AN/TYK-05
CPU: Zilog Z80 1.78 MHz
Memory: 48 Kb
HDD: None
OS: TRS-DOS
You lucky bastard.
Every dog has his day.
Quote from: "Red-Machine"Quote from: "stewartsage"TRS-80 Model I Level II (1978)
Name: Lily
CHN: AN/TYK-05
CPU: Zilog Z80 1.78 MHz
Memory: 48 Kb
HDD: None
OS: TRS-DOS
You lucky bastard.
I'm waaaaaaaay more impressed by his having a vacuum tube from an AN-I-forget-the-rest-of-the-name computer. *________*
...
*cracks knuckles*
Bells' Clutch-O-Computers The Alpha Dog: Aluminum iMac 24''
2009
Name: Evangeline "Eve"
CPU: 2.93ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
HDD: 640gb
RAM: 4gb
OS: Mac OSX 10.6 Snow Leopard
Emulated: OS/2 1.3 and Warp 4, MSDOS 6.22, Windows 1.0, 2.0, 3.1, NT 4 and XP Pro, OpenSuSE (under VirtualBox), Unix System 7 (in SIMH), Apple ///
UsableHP Pavilion ze2308wm Notebook
2005
Name: Dy
CPU: 1.6 AMD Sempron
HDD: 40gb
RAM: 256mb
OS: XP Pro
Emulated: OS/2 Warp 4, Windows 3.1 (under MS VirtualPC), NeXTSTEP 3.3 (under VMware Player) and Mac OS 7.01 (under PearPC)
eMachines M6805 notebook (decommissioned)
2004
Name: K8 "Kate"
CPU: 1.8ghz AMD Athlon 64
HDD: 60gb
RAM: 1gb
OS: OpenSUSE 11.3
Notes: also has useable 512mb RAM module and 120gb HDD running XP Pro and Ubuntu 8.10
Diacad Associates homebrew PC
(early 1990s)
Name: Patchy
CPU: 133mhz
HDD: 1.6gb
RAM: 16mb
OS: Windows 3.1, MSDOS 6.22
Pansonic Toughbook CF-27
1999
Name: Nadine
Processor: 500ghz (?) Intel Pentium III
HDD: 6gb
RAM: 128mb
OS: Windows 98SE
Commodore VIC-20
(1981-84)
Name: Victoria
CPU: 1.0227 mhz MOS 6502AÂ
HDD: n/a
RAM: 5kb
OS: Commodore BASIC
Notes: the original box style seems to suggest this is an earlier model
Commodore VIC-20
(1981-84)
Name: Victor
CPU: 1.0227 mhz MOS 6502AÂ
HDD: n/a
RAM: 5kb
OS: Commodore BASIC
Notes: bears stickers saying "factory refurbished"
Injured:Bondi Blue iMac
(1998-99)
Name: Immaline
CPU: 233mhz PPC 750
HDD: unknown
RAM: unknown
OS: Mac OS 9.2; OSX 10.2
Notes: boots, monitor does not turn on. Have not tried resetting the PRAM yet. May have to do with OSX or firmware issues in OS 9, a documented problem.
Bondwell B310sx laptop
(late 1980s)
Name: Maser
CPU: Intel 80286
HDD: unknown
RAM: 1mb
OS: unknown
Notes: turns on, BIOS screen apparent, doesn't boot however.
Unknown status:Macintosh Performa 6115CD
(1994-95)
Name: Penelope
CPU: 60mhz PPC 601
Notes: has been switched on, but hasn't been connected to a monitor, keyboard and mouse to verify its working-ness
Compaq Presario 5220
1998
CPU: 380 MHz AMD-K6
HDD: 8gb
RAM: 64mb
OS: Windows 98
Notes: ran Puppy Linux from a live CD, but its floppy drive quit making booting from live CDs impossible (long story). Currently buried deep in a storage unit.
Apple Powerbook 190cs
1995
Name: Chancy
Notes: missing power cord
Gateway Solo
1998
Name: Maybe
Notes: missing power cord
IBM Thinkpad 770z
(1998-99)
Name: Iffy
Notes: missing power cord
Toshiba Satellite
(1999)
Name: Nadia
Notes: missing power cord
Unbootable:Macintosh Performa 631CD (1994-95)
Name: Persephone
CPU: 33mhz Motorola 68LC040
Notes: Doesn't turn on
TL;DR, I have 16 computers, more on the way and am going to build a computer museum in my new home's basement: I think I officially have a mental illness!
QuoteI think I officially have a mental illness
No, you just have a lot of spare time, well used.
...
;_;
Not a mental illness, well, not a serious or negative one at least...
Quote from: "Bella"I think I officially have a mental illness!
You know how I feel about your collecting habits. :P
Quote from: "Red-Machine"Quote from: "stewartsage"TRS-80 Model I Level II (1978)
Name: Lily
CHN: AN/TYK-05
CPU: Zilog Z80 1.78 MHz
Memory: 48 Kb
HDD: None
OS: TRS-DOS
You lucky bastard.
wish my mom bought me fisher price pc
I just ordered a nVidia GeForce GTX 580.
YEAH BABY!!
Alright, down to business.
I'll be listing every computer I own, though I only really talk about the ones in my room, as the others are in storage due to lack of space (don't worry, they're comfortable)
Macbook Pro-13 Inch
Primary Function; be my awesome Tan companion
CPU; 2.66 GHz x2
RAM; 8 GB
HD; 512 GB Solid State
Tan; Default OSX Tan
Notes; has an accompanying 24 inch Apple Cinema Display
Status; typing
iBook-with Firewire
Primary Function; gather stares of envy and raise many piked interests at the Apple store (TRUE STORY)
CPU; 366 MHz
RAM; 576 MB (custom upgraded to limit)
HD; 30 GB (custom)
Tan; Tiger Tan
Notes; has ORIGINAL yo-yo style charger
Status; at home, sleeping
Powerbook G4-12 Inch
Primary Function; act adorable (like a Macbook Air)
CPU; 1.5 GHz
RAM; 512 MB
HD; 80 GB
Tan; Panther Tan
Notes; my mom uses this one a lot, she loves it
Status; with mother
Power Mac G4-Mirrored Drive Bay Doors
Primary Function; be BA
CPU; 1.25 GHz
RAM; 2 GB
HD; 80 GB
Tan; Jaguar Tan
Notes; has ORIGINAL 17 inch Cinema Display + Keyboard and Mouse
Status; in comfortable, soft storage
iMac G3-Flower Power
Primary Function; Nostalgia!
CPU; 400 GHz
RAM; 512 MB
HD; 40 GB
Tan; Cheetah Tan
Notes; has ORIGINAL keyboard and 'hockey-puck' mouse
Status; needs BIOS reset, cuts off after about 30 minutes of on-time
eMac
Primary Function; be the last remaining eMac from my mom's classroom (it was upgraded to silver iMacs)
CPU; 700 MHz
RAM; 256 MB
HD; 40 GB
Tan; Puma Tan
Notes; Computer I used as the Yearbook Editor in my Freshmen year
Status; at school in a friend's classroom, still working hard! Technically mine though.
Powerbook 540-C
Primary Function; be a classic way to access the internet
CPU; 33 MHz
RAM; 36 MB
HD; 500 MB
Tan; Pleiades Tan
Notes; has ORIGINAL power cord and is in excellent condition
Status; in comfortable, soft storage
Power Macintosh 5300-LC
Primary Function; be a classic way to access the internet
CPU; 100 MHz
RAM; 32 MB
HD; 1.2 GB
Tan; Tempo Tan
Notes; perfect condition, original keyboard and mouse
Status; in comfortable, soft storage
Macintosh-SE
Primary Function; play Tetris!
CPU; 8 MHz
RAM; 4 MB
HD; 40 MB
Tan; Antares
Notes; has original mouse and the LEGENDARY APPLE EXTENDED KEYBOARD http://lowendmac.com/thomas/06/1013.html
Status; watching the room, protecting the other Macs.... probably playing Tetris while I'm not there
Windows 95...-Hardrive
Primary Function; settle the score!
CPU;...
RAM;...
HD; 20 GB
Tan; Windows 95
Notes; the remains of the last Windows 95 computer to enter my room...(in reality, the 'family' computer got old and I just kept the hardrive)
Status; DEAD! MWHAHAHAHA
I do believe that's everyone!
That's quite the Mac collection! *v*
I've an eMac too, Snow, though she was moved off my desk (and into storage) cause she got in my way. ; ;
Yet only about 3 or 4 can fit in my room at any given time Xp (not enough desk space)
What's funny about my eMac is it has NEVER been in my house :D
Awesome collection! You even have Macs for nearly each OSX version!
Well... if you count Snow Leopard as the future version of Leopa-/shot
It actually kinda bugs me that I don't have enough space for all of my family.
...sorry for double post.
Talking to my Aunt and Uncle and apparently they have a working Atari 800 upstairs in the closet.
It bugs me that most of my collection is in an unheated (but thankfully very dry) basement. >>
So, guys, I'm thinking. Wouldn't taking LAMBDA outside to work on my veranda be a good idea? INFINITE COOLING WORKS and nice view. Just needs some clothing for me -w-
currently trying to cool down my backup drive by putting it on the windowsill.
i feel like i don't belong here ;___;
Speedy:
Model: HP Pavillion DV6000 Special Edition
OS: Windows 7
RAM: 2gb
Hard Drive: 109 gb w/ 2 80gb holding most of her data and a 160 backup drive being built as we speak
Processor: AMD Turion 180 GHz
Etc: Has customized theme, with Nanami's voice installed.
Status: Active
Shitty:
Model: Random Gateway box made for win XP home
OS: XP pro, most likely
RAM: likely about 1.2 gb
Hard Drive: ?
Processor: ?
Etc: currently in the shop.
Status: inactive
Tanky:
Model: IBM Thinkpad 1999?
OS: Windows 98SE
Ram: ?
Hard Drive: ?
Processor: ?
Etc: Missing her power cable. I haven't powered her up in a few months, so i can't check anything. Last i heard her battery was dead.
Status: Active
Biggy:
Model: Compaq Desktop
OS: Windows 2000 SP4
RAM: 1/2 gb (roughly)
Hard Drive: ?
Processor: ?
Etc: Heavy as hell, she currently resides in the back corner of my room, on the floor, with lots of stuff heaped on top of her. :[ she has no wireless card, meaning she can't access the net (as my cable will not reach that far). She's quite sturdy, and reliable.
Status: Active
Gothy:
Model: Ipod Nano 4th Gen.
OS: whatever an ipod runs
RAM: ?
Hard Drive: 8gb of flash memory
Processor: ?
Etc: Gothy is ALMOST a computer, but i love her so she counts. She is currently Gothpod II, as III died a tragic and pathetic death. This cost me almost 3/4 of the storage i once had, but it's made me appriciate my songs more. :3 (plus the smaller size is semi-more-convenient.)
Status: Active (and charging :3)
Timmy:
Model: Tiger
OS: made for 95
RAM: ?
Hard Drive: ?
Processor: ?
Etc: Timmy is intended to be my legacy pc, but he came with only a motherboard and cables, and maybe one piece of crappy RAM. I have yet to fix him up, but he will run either 95 or ME (most likely 95, as idk if ME would be happy on such an old(ish) pc.
Status: inactive
.____.;
If Timmy was made for 95, it will have issues with ME.
I'd reccommend at least a 500MHz processor for ME. Better 1GHz, tho.
exactly. i had the notion of reviving the old nostalgia in timmy (the good ol' days of windows 95~ <3).
i'll just have to hack together a box. no big deal. :3
If you want a graphics card in it, it'll have to be PCI unless you have 95 OSR2.1.
However, Timmy may not even have an AGP port, so it'll be pretty moot.
In other news: I just bought nVidia's first ever graphics card!
yay!
i'm unsure of timmy's specs. right now his main function is a table.
Powerbook 165 (1993)
Name: Prinzessin
CHN: AN/PYK-04
CPU: Motorola 68030 33 MHz
Memory: 4 MB
HDD: ?
OS: System 7.?
Kaypro 2X (1984)
Name: Ada
CHN: AN/TYK-06
CPU: Z80A 4 MHz
Memory: 65 KB
HDD: None
OS: CP/M 2.22
Apple ][ Plus (1979/1980)
Name: Beatrix
CHN: AN/TYK-07
CPU: MOS Technology 6502
Memory: 64 KB (has language card)
HDD: None
OS: Apple DOS
quit rubbing it in.
Quote from: "The Truth"quit rubbing it in.
THIS.
ಪ__ಫThough being a queen hypocrite I SHALL brag relentlessly as soon as I make an awesome acquisition, which, at this point and per rules of the Game of Awesome Computer Finds, is going to have to be a minicomputer/mainframe remnant or better.
Am I the only one at this table who's actually trying to get NEWER stuff in his rigs? -w-;
My iBook has some upgraded/newer stuff in it,
I had heard it was extremely hard to do it due to how well armored and layered it is, so I saw it as a challenge.
when it comes to newer stuff, i'm content, since i has not teh monies for teh newer computies.
the thing with old stuff, it's usually dirt cheap or FREE, which is my favourite number other than 13. every single one of my computers to date has been free, though speedy needed repairs (my fault, mostly) totaling about $175 (for what would have been a VERY expensive laptop).
it's hard to get out of the rut of FREE.....
Yeah, I'm not really one for screwing with my operating computers too much. Since that isn't my area of expertise. Though I'm getting damn good at diagnosing 8in floppy drive issues.
I agree with Kari, the cheaper (or freer) a computer is the more interested I am. Hell, this whole fascination with Operating Systems and old computers traces back to a $5 3.1 box.
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Am I the only one at this table who's actually trying to get NEWER stuff in his rigs? -w-;
Well, I AM building an nVidia GeForce GTX 580 rig. But then again, I also just bought nVidia's very first graphics card from 1995...
Quote from: "stew"a 5$ 3.1 box
.........lucky.
most of my free requisitions are also about os-llecting; for some reason i have this odd urge to get every microsoft OS from 3.1 on (except vista) and OS9. so far, i have xp (disk and box), 2000 (D&B), ME (D), 98 (disc somewhere, laptop), 7 (D&L), and 95 (B). i remember my semi-unreliable friend/brother offering to donate a mac box for torrenting, perhaps i can get him to install OS9 on it. ^^
I used OS8 for the longest of all the OS's I've used, probably followed by XP, then 95.
I have a 98SE disk, 95 disk, and used to have a 2K disk but it disappeared somewhere.
Le OS and EMULATOR ZOO - captive specimen:
Installed on real computers:
Mac OSX 10.6, OSX 10.3, OSX 10.2, System 9.2
Windows 98, 98se
OpenSuSE, Linux Mint, Ubuntu*, Windows XP Home*
*On a HD that I don't use in K8 anymore - since K8's dead and all
Installed and virtualized:
Windows 3.11, Windows XP Pro
Virtualized:
-Mini VMac:
Mac System 7.0.1
-VirtualBox:
MSDOS 6.22
Windows 1.0, Windows 2.0, Windows 95, Windows NT 4, Windows 2k
OpenSolaris
OS/2 Warp 4.5
-MS VPC:
OS/2 1.3, OS/2 Warp 4
-VMWare Player:
NeXTSTEP
UnixWare
BeOS
Historic hardware/OS emulators:
-SIMH:
Xenix
Unix System 5, 6 and 7 on PDP-11
OS/8 on PDP-8
-Others:
DTSS on GE 645
CTSS on IBM 7094
SOS on Apple ///
And of course a FRUCTON of Linuxes -- I don't use any at the moment, but the ISO collection includes:
Vixta
DSL
Parted Magic
VectorLinux
Dreamlinux
Debian
Zenwalk
PCLOS
SAM
Of course, of this list I only use about five on a regular basis... = =
This again demondstrates how awesome you are.
I'd list the virtual mainframe farm, but considering that only three or four have actually succeeded in working I won't bother. The UNIVAC works though; I can predict the 1952 election!
Quote from: "stewartsage"I'd list the virtual mainframe farm, but considering that only three or four have actually succeeded in working I won't bother. The UNIVAC works though; I can predict the 1952 election!
Someone actually wrote an emulator for a vacuum tube-based computer?
^^ that makes me happy.
Quote from: "stewartsage"I'd list the virtual mainframe farm, but considering that only three or four have actually succeeded in working I won't bother. The UNIVAC works though; I can predict the 1952 election!
Wicked friggin pissah. ;010
If you want to install CTSS (and be a one of a few people who've chosen to install CTSS) I can give you the instructions... * *
Yes they did, yes it's awesome, yes the first half dozen times I used it would have resulted with an IRL machine essentially exploding.
xD gotta love simulations, saving irl stuff from doing bad things.
ehhh, actually, idk what to say, but i'm voting for taft.
and go CTSS, go! ^^
Go CTSS, Go! sounds like the best childrens book about mainframe computing ever.
Stew: you have a virtual Dinosaur Pen (http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/D/dinosaur-pen.html) @.@
(Browsing the Jargon File, like TV Tropes, is a great way to waste a few hours ><)
i just realized my old computer class is a dinosaur pen. :3
Your old computer class used IBM mainframes? *O*
no, but it fit everything on the list. raised air conditioned floors and the room was always around 60 degrees. :3
Quote60 degrees
WTF AM I READING oh wait, Fahrenheit
lulz, silly demon. america made me stupid, so i only know rough translations into metric/celsius. :3
Metric is for wusses and the New York Turnpike Authority
Kalvin is where its all at people
kelvin is even harder to get than metric. =?
Converting from metric/Celsius to Kelvin is simple: Just add 273. :)
C --> K: K = C + 273
yay! convenience!
Ah Kelvin, the worst temperature scale.
HEY. >:[
What? It definitely is.
Rankine? ^-^
That definitely takes that spot, yes. -w-;
that's a temperature format? .___.;
Kelvin for americans... -_-;
think i'm gonna stick with kevlar.
we're OT ;__;
I received news that my eMac I left at school to work has stopped working. I checked it and it's the power supply, nothing I can do.
Make that one less OS I am 'using'. :(
Sorry to hear Chozo-san. I've heard the power supplies on eMacs are a bitch to get to. ><;;;;
...
Hm... I'm still using an IBMalike running a BSD varient, AKA an Intel iMac running OSX Snow Leopard. d:
Izumi, the Acer Aspire One running Gentoo, has wound up in the hands of an eleven-year-old girl! It runs Windows 7 now, though. Its use as a portable [slow-playing] media center has ended; in lieu, it now displays, uh... ebooks...
Therefore, I now have, uh... Etsuko. The HP DV6000 that I meticulously reflowed the GPU on with a blowtorch (4realz, just type in dv6000 in google video and see what I did; there's pages of tutorials for this broken laptop!)
And... it runs Source Mage! I ams likes typing "cast xorg-server" and "scribe update" and "gaze search b43". And the OS-tan Aurora drew on the wiki is awesome. :p
:3 svx's naming system makes me want to give my computers YET ANOTHER nickname. <3
same ol, same ol. though i'd like to get timmy up and running again. :\
Etsuko was a tough one, too...
I wanted to name it Uihara, but Uihara's the name of a computer I gaves to teh Village Elder (my mom)...
And, uh...
Etsuko is the name of... Yakushimaru Etsuko... You know? The lead singer from Soutaisei Riron? The decision pretty much made itself :p
heh, the new new nicknames were based off of meaning. i got:
speedy = Kanaye ("Zealous Child")
shitty = Kaiya ("Forgiveness")
gothy = Kuroko ("Child of Black")
tanky = Kimi ("Honorable")
biggy = Takako ("Tall Child")
timmy = Taro ("First-born son")
Apparently to make up for my loss, the teacher I was letting use it gave me a 7' netbook with windows ce on it.
I'm going to need a lot if help with this thing...
Nonetheless, I am now an owner of a windows ce.
Quote from: Krizonar on January 06, 2011, 12:35:05 PMApparently to make up for my loss, the teacher I was letting use it gave me a 7' netbook with windows ce on it.
I'd rather have the eMac. CE-based devices are shit.
but it sounds rare-ish. i'd like it. :3
It's from 2004 apparently,
It has an ARM processor, 128 megs of ram and a 2 gigabyte hd. Runs ce 5.0 from what little I can make of it.
I'm honestly having trouble figuring it out. it's so weird.
yay, weird stuff! ^^
Now now, the Dreamcast used modified CE in some game titles.
My current PC setup is a cheap Packard Bell iMedia with a 2.5Ghz dual core Celeron, 2GB RAM.
Hooked up to a 20" HP 2010 TFT.
Actually quite surprised how good this TFT is. Obviously its a TN LCD with cathode/EL backlight, but even this, it has really crisp sharpness and the screen is really evenly illuminated. I've seen monitors with worse illumination and theyve cost more than this HP.
Oh also, it has built in speakers, though theyre quite primitive.
Obviously using Win7 Home Premium, which was packed with it.
However, dont like the silly fancy stuff, so turned off Aero almost immediately.
I'm an old fart who wants his OS's simple and chunky. Deal with it.
However, I like my computers in small form factor.
I also bought a secondary computer which I left in finland at my parents.
It's a cheap Acer eMachines EL1330, 2.7ghz AthlonII X2, 4GB ram.
I've never really been a PC gamer, hence never needed any real super computing power from my PCs.
As long it manages to run Photoshop CS2.
Quote from: VonDaab on January 09, 2011, 09:41:39 AMI also bought a secondary computer which I left in finland at my parents.
It's a cheap Acer eMachines EL1330, 2.7ghz AthlonII X2, 4GB ram.
Acer eMachines? They're seperate companies...
Well, Acer owns it.
I guess because of owning a jesusphone, I can add into the list of OSs i use the iOS...
So, after years of telling my father that "If we're going to keep running XP Pro on Emily (the aging desktop) we really need to upgrade her RAM from 512 MB to something a little more, substantial." Over Christmas break he finally asks me "You think the computer's performance would improve if we upgraded the RAM?" We're upgrading the RAM now. Better late then never!
My previous computer was a PB laptop running XP Pro with 512MB RAM, last summer it started having issues with its screen backlight, which died shortly after. So at that point decided to get a completely new computer.
Suppose I should add Hannah here since I am using her sorta as a computer.
shitty/glazia/kaiya (all the same computer) was running XP for awhile.
458MB of ram if i remember right. that persisted for about a year and a half....maybe two years.
but she was in the spacepod....and she rocked it like a hurricane. -w- IMing my love interest at the time at midnight in that thing, durring the summer, with the christmas lights on......that will be one of my best memories for a very long time.
and since he was there in the room one of the times i used the spacepod, i have photos, which means i won't be able to forget. :3
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q364/tcmapler/DSC00499.jpg)
Here we go again.
Main: Charlotte
Gateway LX
AMD Phenom 9500 x4 2.20 GHz
8GB RAM DDR2? (can't remember)
Windows 7 64-bit
SERVAR: Ralph
Dell PowerEdge 600SC
Intel P4 --- GHz (I have no idea on the speed right now)
1GB RAM
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Ghetto box: Kiska
Dell dimension 3000
Intel P4 2.5 GHz
1GB RAM (one dead RAM bay)
Windows XP Professional SP3
Emachine: Kate
Emachine E11161-03
AMD Athlon x2 2.5 GHz
3GB RAM
Now: Windows 7 64-bit
Soon: Windows server 2008 R2 64-Bit
...Athena?
Call her Kate! It's what my dearly deceased eMachine's name is.... ;_____;
Huh, I think one of Stewart's computers is called Charlotte too. Popular name. :V
Two of them actually, Charlotte I and II are my first laptops.
Quote from: Bella on February 01, 2011, 01:24:55 AM
Call her Kate! It's what my dearly deceased eMachine's name is.... ;_____;
Huh, I think one of Stewart's computers is called Charlotte too. Popular name. :V
Huh. Just the other day a windows98 SE I had died. It was from gateway as well..huh.
-EDIT-
wait no nvm. My dad said he took the power cable from it. (that explains alot)
it would.....and if it was a desktop the cable shouldn't be TOO hard to find.
i need a new power cable for tanky (IBM thinkpad running 98SE), she hasn't run since last year since the cable got lost. (she needed a new one anyway, her old one had a piece of the connetor stuck in the port for it)
charlotte is what i planned to name my future kid, if i had a girl......
it's getting too popular!! >__<
I was saw someone fix a laptop charger with a pack of gum. It was hilarious.
Any potential future kids are getting names that are numbers in Russian.
you're going to name your children Dva and Tree?
or Treenadsat?
Windows XP - Music, Vocaloid, Games, etc. NO INTERNET
Windows 7 (personal fav. windows OS) - Internet
Linux (Ubuntu. One of my favorite operating systems) - Art, CLI, etc. Ocassionally internet.
c:
speedy - win 7 (functional)
tanky - win 98SE (semi-functional)
shitty - XP (non-functional)
gothy - whatever an ipod uses (DUH functional)
biggy - win 2k (functional)
timmy - 95 (non-functional)
canary, have you named your computers? :3
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on February 02, 2011, 12:13:04 AM
speedy - win 7 (functional)
tanky - win 98SE (semi-functional)
shitty - XP (non-functional)
gothy - whatever an ipod uses (DUH functional)
biggy - win 2k (functional)
timmy - 95 (non-functional)
canary, have you named your computers? :3
I call the ubuntu (via emulator) Ubunchu. orz
and i might downgrade my xp to 2k so i dunno yet xD
I might name it Flyte, or Flare.
edit
using dsi web browser...
and my dad wont lemme downgrade or do anything to my computer. GRRR
Got a Zune HD!
Named it Ururun :p
It's awesome, btw
Quote from: svx on February 05, 2011, 11:48:35 PM
Got a Zune HD!
Named it Ururun :p
It's awesome, btw
LUCKYYYYY! i want a zune ><
Oh yeah, My dad finally allowed me to dual boot!
So I'm running Ubuntu and windows XP. Mostly ubuntu. <3
Zune lololololol.
Still running BSD; specifically OSX 10.6 Snow Leopard.
Hey, the Zune HD rocks!
It... plays stuff. But not MKV. Hmm...
I'd like to make a SAMBA client for it, along with a generic USB mass storage device driver app so that Teh "Zune Software"s aren't needed to copy files to it, but that... requires me to... program in Windows. Uggghhhh.
Quote from: CanaryTan on February 06, 2011, 12:08:05 AM
Oh yeah, My dad finally allowed me to dual boot!
So I'm running Ubuntu and windows XP. Mostly ubuntu. <3
Hey, cool!
I was about your age when I started using Linux and learning to program... I wish I had Ubuntu back then!
I started with Debian, and it... was... a nightmare. The reason I switched to Linux? "I hate WinQuake. Linux can play sQuake; it's cooler!"
Quake rox
Quote from: svx on February 06, 2011, 12:25:40 AM
Quote from: CanaryTan on February 06, 2011, 12:08:05 AM
Oh yeah, My dad finally allowed me to dual boot!
So I'm running Ubuntu and windows XP. Mostly ubuntu. <3
Hey, cool!
I was about your age when I started using Linux and learning to program... I wish I had Ubuntu back then!
I started with Debian, and it... was... a nightmare. The reason I switched to Linux? "I hate WinQuake. Linux can play sQuake; it's cooler!"
Quake rox
sdfjklfg my computer is acting up. Its on and its been inactive for an hour and when i wiggle the mouse, nothing comes up. when i turn it off, it doesnt turn off.
-EDIT-
got it working! ^^
I mostly got it to work on my CLI.
i never learned CLI. i feel dumb. ;__;
CLI is funnnnnnnn<3
xD i love linux.
hey svx, have you learned CLI?
I`m sill learning. i also have this book on linux i got from the library
I use the command-line more often than GUI stuff!
It's always seemed simpler... I've been trying to convert over to graphical things like KDE for a while now, and I'm making progress... but... ehh... I guess I'm a bit oldschool, and dumb :p
no, you're not dumb. using the CLI seems much more difficult than GUI.
they make books on linux now? .___.;
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on February 06, 2011, 10:24:28 AM
no, you're not dumb. using the CLI seems much more difficult than GUI.
they make books on linux now? .___.;
Yeah..The one I got is called 'Linux in a Nutshell'
huh. guess it's not as underground as it used to be. :\
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on February 06, 2011, 12:46:11 PM
huh. guess it's not as underground as it used to be. :\
...........Linux hasn't been underground since Slackware was still called SLS and Ubuntu was the merest glimmer in Mark Shuttleworth's eyes. >>;
There are several 1990s-era books on Linux at the local used book store... as far as learning to use a Linux shell (CLI) this site has a really easy-to-understand tutorial:
http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
Taught me a lot of what I know about navigating *Nix command lines (since they share a LOT of similarities - at least navigation-wise, Linux, OSX, BSD and the vintage Unix releases look pretty much the same).
if i was better at programming, i could make a flele that isn't so buggy ;___;
(but that's what i get for making an ME flele, lol)
I think I'm just stuck in the good old days!
I was born in 1985, so... ehh... I was used to DOS back then, because Windows 3.11 didn't do seem to do anything special for me besides being able to play Space Quest VI better than the DOS version
So, I got into Quake after it was released in 1996... I used to play on a pretty tricked out server ran by a guy at a university who was studying programming (and later became an employee at Redhat, from what I understand)
The players there talked about how cool Linux was pretty often, so... I learned how to use Linux! I was more familiar with DOS than Windows, so it just seemed natural to learn the CLI, and it just felt pretty awesome to realize the differences between different shells (bash, zsh, csh, etc) along the way :p
Guess it always stuck with me!
@canary - My advice for learning CLI? Come up with a cool idea for a simple program, and then program it using your shell! You'll probably want to learn bash script more than anything else, since it's the most common these days... You know, Source Mage Linux uses nothing but bash scripts for its package management, and it's awesome :p
@choco - I had to google what a flele is... sounds cute... hmm... Maybe I makes one too?
Quote from: svx on February 06, 2011, 09:43:06 PM
My advice for learning CLI? Come up with a cool idea for a simple program, and then program it using your shell! You'll probably want to learn bash script more than anything else, since it's the most common these days... You know, Source Mage Linux uses nothing but bash scripts for its package management, and it's awesome :p
this may be the most coherent, intelligent thing i've ever heard from you. by jove, i think he's got his field of expertise! >:3
Quote from: svx on February 06, 2011, 09:43:06 PM
@choco - I had to google what a flele is... sounds cute... hmm... Maybe I makes one too?
i posted a video i made in the video thread explaining what flele is. if you're interested, i can provide a link to a tutorial. ^^
I saw your flele thingy, Choco, and it looks awesome! I hope it isn't Windows-only. :(
Speaking of CLI, I've had some experience using the Terminal in OSX, and have tried making scripts but am so confused by them.
It looks awesome!
And, uh... I mean, I'm not supposed to make sense...
Just... pretend... it was me being drunk :p
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on February 06, 2011, 10:08:24 PM
I saw your flele thingy, Choco, and it looks awesome! I hope it isn't Windows-only. :(
Speaking of CLI, I've had some experience using the Terminal in OSX, and have tried making scripts but am so confused by them.
It'd be cool if we (OSC people) could all have music player controllers like that.
Yeah, the Terminal is the only experience I have and in that I tend to know how do only damage and no good.
Sudo is your friend.
i'm sorry to say that flele is only compatible with windows, however it has patchy success running in wine. mac is a no-go as of yet (and i haven't found any newer versions, so it's likely that it's going to stay that way).
i remember uploading some os-tan skins awhile back, for winamp and a player called lilith. idk where you'd find the player or the skins, but they exist. :\
as for flele, it may only run in windows/sometimes wine, but you can make your own, as evidenced by mine. >:3
I have a knack for getting stuff to run in Wine.
I play an MMO that doesn't support my platform.
I'll stick with iChibi, supposedly they're making more chibis!
Maybe I'll port Flele as a KDE applet in the future!
Work on the world's fastest XML (DOM, too!) engine progresses and, eh... I guess the Zune will take up some of my time, since the guys on the Zune board will probably help me along as I make a USB mass storage device driver for it
Btw, I keep getting emails from people ever since I mentioned my Morrowind port for the PSP... Hmm... Maybe I really should finish that :p
finish what you started, foo!
if you could get flele to work on other platforms, i'd love you forever, since that means my friends from college could use it too. ^^ good luck though, most of it's in japanese and the other bits are in broken english or crypted japanese. >__<
For Choco's love?
I shall do this :p
In all srsness, ehh... I mean, code is code! It'd just be a matter of running it through something like HexRays' disassembler to reverse it... A bit of work I suppose, but... Some day...
wait, what?
Got an iPod Touch! Just a 1st gen, 8gb...
Weird story... It was my brother's birthday, so you'd except that he'd be the one getting the presents, ne?
Called him up at his work to say happy birthday and, ehh... he said he had... an iPod for me. For $60. Apparently somebody asked him to hack it for them, and wound up selling it to him. :p
Named it Maru
@choco - HexRays is a decompiler that I could use to figure out how Flele works and write a version of it for a different OS! I used it to reverse Morrowind when I was spending more time on my PSP port
Vodka-kun: When not completely incarcerated, he is a most proficient haxman.
so HE'S OSC's resident coder.....
At church: XP 32bit Pro , hand built
It has 6 drives that are each just under a terabyte (931GB)
(drive 1 has 931, drive 2 has 931,...)
4 GB Ram and a 3.16 Intel Core 2 Duo for a cpu.
Home : 7 64bit , HP
1 drive that has 660 GB
8 GB Ram and a 2.50 gigahertz Intel Core2 Quad cpu.
Just for the record the main reason 7 is on my home computer and not XP.
Is because my old XP machine Died.
And machines with windows 7 are the only thing that computer stores in my area sell.
XP is an awful OS to use these days for gaming, you'd be better sticking with Vista or 7.
stick with 7. it's vista, only better. :\
So true, put XP pro back on ghetto box and it's slow as hell.
Stick with 7, it's the best option to date, have it all of my computers with some being more than 6-7 years old.
Resident (ex) XPtard is sad to hear all the XP bashing. Well not really, since she frankly doesn't care about XP now that she's a Unix user, but still.
For fsck's sake, how can Win7 be FASTER than XP on a 6-7 yo PC?! ¬¬
Because it's better? -w-;
Besides, 7 takes up negligibly more resources than XP-sp3 does, so yah.
It's pretty amazing how that's possible, ghetto comp is around 5 years old and runs win7 waaaaaaaaaaay better than windows XP. It's so lightweight for an os that it can run on nvidea's quadro graphic chip alone and still use programs without lag! Microsoft showed this off at CES a little while ago, can wait for some windows7 tablets to come out!
Quote from: NejinOniwa on February 10, 2011, 02:44:02 PM
Because it's better? -w-;
Besides, 7 takes up negligibly more resources than XP-sp3 does, so yah.
I've never seen win7 chew up as much as what XP dose...
I used to dualboot XP and Ubuntu plus an old laptop on slackware booted straight into RAM. Then I realized I hate messing around with computers and I was only good at it because there was always something wrong with my setup - so I got myself a Macbook pro and have prob used the terminal once in a year and a half - to fix a media codec issue with VLC. Never crashed, never lagged. :D Only things I miss are Medieval:Total War and a proper lightweight notepad... Is this blasphemy? ???
Quote from: Dr. Kraus on February 10, 2011, 02:47:42 PMIt's pretty amazing how that's possible, ghetto comp is around 5 years old and runs win7 waaaaaaaaaaay better than windows XP.
Is this comparing a fresh install of XP with a fresh install of 7? If not, it isn't a fair comparison.
Quote from: TheClone on February 11, 2011, 05:32:40 AM
I used to dualboot XP and Ubuntu plus an old laptop on slackware booted straight into RAM. Then I realized I hate messing around with computers and I was only good at it because there was always something wrong with my setup - so I got myself a Macbook pro and have prob used the terminal once in a year and a half - to fix a media codec issue with VLC. Never crashed, never lagged. :D Only things I miss are Medieval:Total War and a proper lightweight notepad... Is this blasphemy? ???
MAC BROTHA!!!! ^^
Sounds a lot like my story: I used to dual boot XP and Ubuntu (mostly used Ubuntu) but when that computer started to die I bought an iMac (2009 24'', 2.93gHz running OSX Snow Leopard). Never had any issues with mine either, it does everything I want and then some.
It's awesome not having to worry about your computer constantly, isn't it? :D
Quote from: Bella on February 11, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
It's awesome not having to worry about your computer constantly, isn't it? :D
This is how I feel when I boot my computer--> 8)
Only problem is how ridiculously expensive they are. I'm not buying a new computer until this one starts crashing on startup - probably sometime next decennium...
i'm SO f*cking sick of macs. >__< i've said it once, and i'll say it again:
F*CKING MACS. >.<
(for those that don't already know, that's ALL they have at my school. i've only found TWO pc's at my school, both in the library. ;__; )
i'm thankful that there are a few die-hard non-mac users at my school, but they're hard to find. :\
anyone got a copy of windows 95? talking with canary today has made me realize i should finish building timmy. :\
Quote from: TheClone on February 13, 2011, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: Bella on February 11, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
It's awesome not having to worry about your computer constantly, isn't it? :D
This is how I feel when I boot my computer--> 8)
Only problem is how ridiculously expensive they are. I'm not buying a new computer until this one starts crashing on startup - probably sometime next decennium...
i worry about my computer, but not because of crashing or anything (the combo of windows 7, rising antivirus and common sense has made speedy quite stable :3), but because taking it with me to boston 2 days a week has occasionally earned it a good bump or smack. ;__;
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on February 13, 2011, 04:07:07 PM
i'm SO f*cking sick of macs. >__< i've said it once, and i'll say it again:
F*CKING MACS. >.<
(for those that don't already know, that's ALL they have at my school. i've only found TWO pc's at my school, both in the library. ;__; )
i'm thankful that there are a few die-hard non-mac users at my school, but they're hard to find. :\
anyone got a copy of windows 95? talking with canary today has made me realize i should finish building timmy. :\Quote from: TheClone on February 13, 2011, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: Bella on February 11, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
It's awesome not having to worry about your computer constantly, isn't it? :D
This is how I feel when I boot my computer--> 8)
Only problem is how ridiculously expensive they are. I'm not buying a new computer until this one starts crashing on startup - probably sometime next decennium...
i worry about my computer, but not because of crashing or anything (the combo of windows 7, rising antivirus and common sense has made speedy quite stable :3), but because taking it with me to boston 2 days a week has occasionally earned it a good bump or smack. ;__;
Yay you mentioned me! ^^
Oh, I also have a windows 95 iso. I don't remember where i got it but yeah.
Quote from: TheClone on February 13, 2011, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: Bella on February 11, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
It's awesome not having to worry about your computer constantly, isn't it? :D
This is how I feel when I boot my computer--> 8)
Only problem is how ridiculously expensive they are. I'm not buying a new computer until this one starts crashing on startup - probably sometime next decennium...
A lot of people complain about Macs being too expensive, but I think it's an investment that's worth every penny. I'm not buying a new one until mine starts falling apart on me too, haha. ^^
A mac is a peacock.
It's pretty to look at, and proud of both its strength and its beauty.
Yet it is still merely mortal, and once its one life fades, that's all it ever had.
A PC is a phoenix.
It beauty and strength may be fickle and weak at times, and its fiery spirit may be hard to handle.
But as long as its ashes remain, it can rise again and be reborn, any number of times.
Quote from: Red-Machine on February 11, 2011, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: Dr. Kraus on February 10, 2011, 02:47:42 PMIt's pretty amazing how that's possible, ghetto comp is around 5 years old and runs win7 waaaaaaaaaaay better than windows XP.
Is this comparing a fresh install of XP with a fresh install of 7? If not, it isn't a fair comparison.
Its a fresh install on two different computers, its a fair fight!
I'm using my ubuntu right now. via cloud. No i'm just kidding xD
I'm using it on my flash drive. It's pretty good if you're just gonna use it for internet and such.
my edition of 7 didn't come with the cloud. idk what i'd do with it, but it's disappointing cause the commercials are so AWESOME. >>;
i haven't used any of the other boxes in the room in awhile, and technically shitty isn't even here. :\
when i get shitty back, i think i was also expecting to be the owner of a mac torrent box. :\ (sadly, to accomplish its task, it would not be located here. :[ )
Quote from: NejinOniwa on February 13, 2011, 06:52:02 PM
A mac is a peacock.
It's pretty to look at, and proud of both its strength and its beauty.
Yet it is still merely mortal, and once its one life fades, that's all it ever had.
A PC is a phoenix.
It beauty and strength may be fickle and weak at times, and its fiery spirit may be hard to handle.
But as long as its ashes remain, it can rise again and be reborn, any number of times.
Haha nerd poetry. I love it 8)
Quote from: TheClone on February 14, 2011, 09:01:34 AM
Quote from: NejinOniwa on February 13, 2011, 06:52:02 PM
A mac is a peacock.
It's pretty to look at, and proud of both its strength and its beauty.
Yet it is still merely mortal, and once its one life fades, that's all it ever had.
A PC is a phoenix.
It beauty and strength may be fickle and weak at times, and its fiery spirit may be hard to handle.
But as long as its ashes remain, it can rise again and be reborn, any number of times.
Haha nerd poetry. I love it 8)
agreed xD It's epic.
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on February 13, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
my edition of 7 didn't come with the cloud. idk what i'd do with it, but it's disappointing cause the commercials are so AWESOME. >>;
i haven't used any of the other boxes in the room in awhile, and technically shitty isn't even here. :\
when i get shitty back, i think i was also expecting to be the owner of a mac torrent box. :\ (sadly, to accomplish its task, it would not be located here. :[ )
The "Cloud" isn't that big a deal, its pretty much remote access with the ability to send files across the pipes to another computer which is nice but really goes unused most of the time. Homegroup is great though! Fast, easy, reliable even though its only on the local network and not available across the internet without a cloud system.
Quote from: Dr. Kraus on February 14, 2011, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on February 13, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
my edition of 7 didn't come with the cloud. idk what i'd do with it, but it's disappointing cause the commercials are so AWESOME. >>;
i haven't used any of the other boxes in the room in awhile, and technically shitty isn't even here. :\
when i get shitty back, i think i was also expecting to be the owner of a mac torrent box. :\ (sadly, to accomplish its task, it would not be located here. :[ )
The "Cloud" isn't that big a deal, its pretty much remote access with the ability to send files across the pipes to another computer which is nice but really goes unused most of the time. Homegroup is great though! Fast, easy, reliable even though its only on the local network and not available across the internet without a cloud system.
The cloud reminds me of this software i use with friends called 'Team Viewer'
Cloud? Never heard of W7 getting a specific one, but. MEH. Could care less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lel3swo4RMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lu6v6hE_bA&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HRrbLA7rss&feature=channel
you have to admit, the fluttery spy-like transition is pretty cool. 8)
I've always wondered what's special about the cloud.
Though I remember google freaking out about "omg cloud omg omg omg".
eh, to be honest i don't really miss it, but the commercials were cool. -w-
ps. i hate hd tv. >__<
Cloud makes me think of cloud computing, which is like "Oh hai put all your important files on teh interwebz and pray your internet connection doesn't fail or that we don't accidentally delete them kthnxbi"
hence why i don't miss it. i just like the commercials. :\
I uninstalled 10.10 on my comp and put 8.04 on there. now my computer is much more faster.
bad grammar, m'lad. xD
but yay you. ^^ when the computer functions the way you want it to, that's all that really matters. ^^
I'm using my operating system called Flyte right now x3
kickass. 8)
Quote from: CanaryTan on February 16, 2011, 11:16:23 PM
I'm using my operating system called Flyte right now x3
You sure like to switch OS' alot, don't you?
Quote from: Dr. Kraus on February 17, 2011, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: CanaryTan on February 16, 2011, 11:16:23 PM
I'm using my operating system called Flyte right now x3
You sure like to switch OS' alot, don't you?
for internet, i use ubuntu and windows (on one computer)
and in my room, ubuntu 8.04 and windows xp.
and emulator, I use flyte 8D
anyone here that uses an emulator uses alot of OSes.
I'm using ubuntu now~
well that wasn't obviou----good for you ^^
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on February 17, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
well that wasn't obviou----good for you ^^
Ubuntu is love. xD
i thought it meant 'community'?
Indeed, I think it is a Bantu word.
still using 7~
Ubuntu means, 'Humanity Towards Others'
and, I found an awesome deal on ubuntu's website. You get Ubuntu 10.10, Ubuntu 10.10 server and Kubuntu 10.10 for $6.33
I also got some stickers x3 the cd's and stickers will ship on monday
Why not just download/burn? '-'
You do know that you can get Ubuntu 10.10 shipped to you for free? And why the hell would you need server?
Quote from: Red-Machine on February 18, 2011, 04:17:02 AM
Indeed, I think it is a Bantu word.
Ubuntu is an ancient african word for 'I can't configure Debian'. 8)
As we all know, Debian was timeslipped to 2nd century Africa.
still using 7, word. 8)
Quote from: Red-Machine on February 19, 2011, 06:35:32 AM
You do know that you can get Ubuntu 10.10 shipped to you for free? And why the hell would you need server?
Huh. Weird. I got the CD's in a pack off ubuntu's website..
I was just gonna get kubuntu but it would've been $8
and the CD pack was like $6
and the reason why i didn't download and burn is because I keep having a stupid problem with kubuntu.
when i try to install, there is always an error. So Im just gonna get a CD.
sometimes, convenience costs 6 bucks. :\
Now after nearly two months of everyday use, I can say that I'm really happy with Linux Mint 10. It started out in a less promising way as the OS froze totally on the very first day, so that nothing else but powering the comp off helped. After that however it's worked without any hiccups. ^-^
I got an iPod touch! woo~
I'll be using that soon ;) I'll post a screenshot in the desktop thread. (once its done syncing)
convert it to windows~~~ 8)
@pitkin: so, mint IS good? was considering installing it on something, maybe Timmy.
Mint IS good. -w-
I wish I could get Mint to work in fullscreen mode on VirtualBox... I had a lot of fun playing with in on K8, until she kicked the bucket. : |
Mint is awesome. I can do all sorts of science with Charlotte II
perhaps Timmy will be half 95, half Mint. -w-
@bella: since i don't pay attention, i'm sorry to hear about K8. :[
Using iOS 3.1.3
itouch 1g
name is Teddy
Sony PSP-2000 Darth Vader Limited Edition
System Software Version 6.37
Name: VADAR
I'm surprised how powerful this PSP is for being around 4 years old! Can surf the web at better than expected speed, play games with little to no lag (the game disks I have are not in the best shape so a little lag is there, when I buy some more games I shouldn't have this problem anymore), Watch movies is good quality (can run AVI files but having trouble getting it to work so I'm stuck with MPG4 which is still better than nothing), and play music well (not used that often though due to no multi-tasking with music and games).
Overall, I got this for a steal ($70) and its barley been used!
kickass, man. i never had much desire to own a PSP but at that price, i'd likely buy it. after all, there's a katamari game for it. 8)
I want a PSP solely for Persona 3 Portable, so it doesn't really justify the investment :/
same, only with katamari :\
I'm back to my ubuntu ways~
:3 I'm using ubuntu right now
FICKLE!!
7~
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on February 22, 2011, 05:07:58 PM
FICKLE!!
7~
*was looking at derp pictures*
Oh sorry...what? *shot*
fail.
For day-to-day work I'm alternating betwen my iMac running Snow Leopard and my HP subnotebook running Arch Linux.
For playing I've got a bunch of RISC workstations (SPARC/POWER/MIPS/PA-RISC) which run either Solaris, AIX, IRIX or HP-UX
I'm on my IBM ThinkCentre running windows xp professional.
:3
Yay Unix! I nearly bought several vintage SPARC workstations, but it was a lot sale and I'd have had to take a bunch of old Apples and shit too. Blargh, I really wish that seller had been more flexible. ><
dude, you coulda sold off the apples and such. :\
still have windows 7~
hmm, maybe i'll spend my vacation building timmy. -w-
Still, using xp. :U
Btw guys, do you think this is a good deal for a mac? http://siouxfalls.craigslist.org/sys/2172233087.html
I wanna get one but my parents and I don't want to spend a bajillion dollars.
You'd most likely need to upgrade the RAM, so factor that in.
idk if he can, since he's unfamiliar. :\
kid, ask your dad. >__<
It's not a bad computer, but it depends on what you're gonna use it for. The G4 might be a little underpowered for some applications and I believe the graphics are also fairly midrange... And yeah, a RAM upgrade might be advisable.
AFAIK the G4 macs were pretty good machines and are quite popular because of their quite unique design.
Booted up my MAC G3 today for fun, still running like a champ!
I just upgraded mine to Tiger. It was wierd, it doesn't have Firewire ports, but I didn't need to use XPostFacto to install it...
gonna downgrade to windows 2000 :3
since the beginning post also mentioned make and model of computer, here is speedy:
http://www.notebooklist.net/hp/hp-pavilion-dv6500-ct-special-edition.html
:3
Quote from: CanaryTan on March 06, 2011, 04:37:22 PM
gonna downgrade to windows 2000 :3
Good luck finding hard ware drivers and such for 2000 if its a newer computer... the internet and such will also be a hassle due to flash, java, and ect. being constantly updated to newer versions not supported by Win2K
I think Canary-chan should virtualize Windows 2000... it'd be much easier than having to install it on a newer comp. : \
I decided to try Sabayon... Ehh... You know... The Gentoo-based Linux distro?
I ams likes it! It took a long time to get to this point. GUI stuff, that is.
Pretty...
Binary packages are tough to get used to, but I still get to use portage, and I still get to use my own portage tree!
Hey, why doesn't Sabayon have an OS-tan? I scoured the interwebs. The various Linuxes don't have anywhere near as many awesome anime-based wallpapers as Windowses do! If I ever become good at drawing manga, the world will change. :p
Whoa, you found one! Cool :)
But... how can she possibly compete with this cuteness in the wallpaper arena? -
(http://i51.tinypic.com/6tg5lk.png)
So yeah, back to xp for awhile.
-w- i told my dad maybe we could install one of my favorite linux distros on there and maybe see if my software will work with wine. Never had ANY luck with wine but eh, might work this time, hopefully.
He said we could try it ;D
Wine has improved a lot lately!
Julliard and other Wine coders are some hard working guys, I have to say... They've taken a (what I believed to be) pipe dream and turned it into something that runs all the Windows apps I care about! Except games, but there's always special Wine ports for that...
Well, there were. I guess. WineX/Cedega started up with that "I'll steal their source code and profit from it thing," but WineX used to have free ports available that didn't include their SecuROM and Safedisc code
I'm installing my OS Flyte, atm!
yay!!!!!! ^^
hope everyone's computers work out. ^^
i dug out the copy of ME that red sent me, and my friend jokingly said that i could partition speedy to run ME as well as 7...... o__o; (i think not)
there's a random computer sitting at the foot of my bed. it was supposed to be for my mom, but i might ask if she doesn't want it, and install something else on it. :3
and then ask for shitty back from my brother, since he hasn't done shit with it (lol bad pun) since i gave it to him last year. >:\
What OS should I install on random new computer that I have?
It's for random friends who neglect their laptops... Hmm... Win7? I'd rather have something non-NT so that it can play older DOS games...
Hmm...I'd say Linux Mint if you can handle WINE to anyd degree, otherwise any 32-bit Windows, NT's included, should work fine.
just do like i did, and opt for the x86-bit version of Win7. this way, i still have the capabilities to run newer stuff, but i can run my old games too. :3
Ubuntu 10.10 desktop edition
:3
Linux Mint is awesome, I wish I had a computer capable of running it. (Is installed on k8, but she won't stay on for more than a few minutes >__>)
OSX 10.6, still. When you have the best, why use anything else. owo
I'm still using 10.5. I just never got to upgrading, in part because Inkscape 0.46 doesn't work with 10.6. :(
...huh? I had Inkscape 0.46 installed... now I have 0.47.
Back when 10.6 was released, I heard that from articles about its compatibility with major apps was that it didn't support Inkscape 0.46. Oops. ^^;
I'm going to order a CD/DVD of Xubuntu or Debian
:3 What do you think I should get? I can't decide ><
Btw, I'm on windows 7.
They're both free, so why the hell are you spending money on them?
I'm getting the disks and they both cost money.
Well whatever, probably not gonna get it.
I just finished downloading Lubuntu. AND OH MY GOD, THE DOWNLOAD WAS SO FAST.
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 12, 2011, 07:13:23 PM
They're both free, so why the hell are you spending money on them?
It's a valid question, but you shouldn't be so snippy about it. : |
Personally, I don't get why anyone would send away for any Linux CDs - I mean, even with a slow connection a download might take a few hours, while it could be weeeeeeeks before you get your CDR in the mail. And there's the matter of S&H... >______>
Ubuntu costs nothing to be shipped to you. I got mine for free.
But. I. don't. know. why.
Whyyyyyy would anybody send away for a CDR when they could just download it and have instant (or, helluva lot quicker than snail-mail) gratification?! : \
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 12, 2011, 07:45:25 PM
Ubuntu costs nothing to be shipped to you. I got mine for free.
huh. weird. I had to pay for mine and I got them off the ubuntu website.
I burned Lubuntu to a CD and ran it for a trial run on my computer. I LOVED IT. I'm installing it right now. So far, Lubuntu is my all-time favorite
at least he didn't pay for this one....
Quote from: Bella on March 12, 2011, 08:06:04 PM
But. I. don't. know. why.
Whyyyyyy would anybody send away for a CDR when they could just download it and have instant (or, helluva lot quicker than snail-mail) gratification?! : \
and quoth the Macbook Air
"lol, archaic disc media"
/had to
Still using 10.6, 10.4 and 0.6.
Quote from: svx on March 11, 2011, 12:21:08 AM
What OS should I install on random new computer that I have?
It's for random friends who neglect their laptops... Hmm... Win7? I'd rather have something non-NT so that it can play older DOS games...
Decisions, decisions!
I wound up using Windows 98 SE... Ahh, fun!
Installation went like this:
1. Booted the CD (sigh of relief when I realized the computer doesn't have a DVD drive :p)
2. Prompted for CDROM support or not... svx acted INSTANTANEOUSLY and took the correct choice
3. DOS prompt popped up
4. Stared at screen
5. A:\> dir
6. A:\> fdisk
7. Hard drive seemed oddly small... Thinking... thinking...
8. Rummaged through desk drawer, found Linux on a thumb drive! Rebooted into it (suprised BIOS supported USB boot)
9. Used GNU fdisk, made 80gb FAT partition easily :)
10. Formatted with mkfs.vfat
11. Rebooted, got into DOS prompt...
12. Stared at screen
13. Typed "win"; "bad command or file name"... "setup" - same thing...
14. A:\> C: C:\> dir C:\> d: D:\> dir D:\> e: E:\> dir (confused about so many drives, and CDROM being A: ...)
15. Aha! E:\> cd win98se E:\> setup
16. SUCCESS!
:p
Now it's time to play Warrior Kings with my friend! We'll build up armies until the game crashes, just like old times. Hey, maybe I can use save states with an emulated win98 from virtualbox on my end and debug our sessions :p
Does anyone know if you can play local LAN sessions of Diablo II, or is that just Battle.net?
edit:
MISSION FAILED
After installing win98se, booting results in:
Disk I/O error
Replace the disk, and then press any key
or... has the mission failed? As I sip my tea, I'm plotting...
But, ehh... Any ideas... instead of mine? :p
perhaps choose a newer OS that still implements legacy support. 2000, maybe?
I thought that it might be that DOS has a limit on the size of the boot partition, but... Ehh... Yeah...
I'm not going to admit defeat yet though!
keep trying! >:3
Maybe get xubuntu.
It's good for new and old computers.
Plus, if you want to use dos, you can get dos box or dos emulator from synaptic.
(or screw around with the terminal. lol)
Using Kubuntu 10.10 desktop edition
I got mine for free by requesting a CD be shipped to me. I think you can pay for shipping to expedite delivery, though.
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 13, 2011, 07:24:19 AM
I got mine for free by requesting a CD be shipped to me. I think you can pay for shipping to expedite delivery, though.
I got my CDs of the store...
I didn't want to spend $7.92 for a pack CDs. I wanted just ONE. I saw a CD bundle which was $6.33 :U
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
^^ Link to get free CDs.
.........But you need to have a Launchpad and Paypal account. : |
Why don't you just download it? I'd be a ton faster and less environmentally-taxing (ie, the only energy consumed will be that of the server + your computer, instead of all the energy consumed with air/freight/packaging/etc). : \
or, you know, just BUY THE DAMN BLANK CDs. >__< that way you can use them for other stuff too. and you don't need to get the ones with the jewel cases, the stacks of blank cd/dvd-r's are like, 5 bucks for 20. (and that way you could have CDs to install all those different copies of linux you switch around to. >__< )
i have disks of:
98SE (official disk, though it's lost somewhere)
ME
2000
XP (3 of them)
7
Ubuntu
Xubuntu
Mint
:3
You would most likely get a CD if your internet sucks like mine does.
I already have a pay-pal AND a launchpad. |D
then stop paying--!!!
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on March 15, 2011, 03:31:42 PM
then stop paying--!!!
I didn't know about ship it at the time. :3
and they don't have ship it for xubuntu OR kubuntu. :C
Got the old computer to run!
It's got an HP motherboard, so I had to explicitly enable LBA in the BIOS...
And, ehh... I used DOS's fdisk, which decided that the 80gb hdd is actually just 10gb.
And then DOS's format, which decided the same thing.
But it somehow spit out an 80gb FAT32 partition
I'm happy :p
Yay for DOS!
can you use all 80gb? or just 10?
All 80gb! I'm as confused as everyone else about it, don't worry
Just let it be
never, ever question a good thing. -w-
Just curious, but what mouse do you guys use with your, ehh... OS? (second part cleverly added to keep things on topic! :p)
I bought one of these a week ago:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/56637-3-razer-orochi-review
Best decision ever! I hate big mice. My old mouse was some old IBM laptop mouse with a jitter problem...
But new-old computer ams using a big, clunky, oldschool HP mouse
Could use the Microsoft InPort though...
But I think the board is ISA :p
Er, I actually have no idea. Mouse, lighted optical, M1956
I use tha trackpad, but when I'm in desktop mode, I use a Magic Mouse.
I use... the standard.... Mac optical mouse... I don't know what it's called actually. >__>
My friend has a Razor, I droll over it when I'm able to use it...
Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000
Dell keyboard
Logitech headset
Should we make a hardware topic? It would be nice to see what hardware everyone uses!
Saitek Cyborg V1 keyboard & mouse. Pretty nice set and cheap, too.
Quote from: Bella on March 21, 2011, 06:39:13 PM
I use... the standard.... Mac optical mouse... I don't know what it's called actually. >__>
Mighty Mouse ouo
Mac mice used to have such a high build quality, now they just feel like cheap tat. The Pro mouse & keyboard set, along with the proceeding non-pro model were the last good ones, IMO. The iMac/Power Mac G3/G4 mouse shaped like a hockey puck sucks ass.
I don't know what Apple and its designers were thinking when they designed that hockey puck mouse. -_-
We played hockey in computer class with'em the day we got new mice.
I loved the hockey puck mouses!
@Red: Spoken like a PC fanboi. -.-
I don't get the vitriol against Apple mice, I like them. I like my Mighty Mouse, I like the Puckmouse, I like the mouse my 128k Macintosh came with. They look beautiful and work fine, what's to complain about? : /
Only one button. And, in the case of all of them Apple Pro mouse and beyond, no button technically. I can't work having to use keyboard shortcuts for my rightclick, dammit.
That one button thing is the devil!
But the touchpads on Macbook Pro's are amazing :)
Look away Krizonar!
...But that's the only redeeming quality Apple-in-California products have!
Besides how awesome they look
...but that unnatural white color doesn't beat matte black either! :p
One button is ideal for me, as I am left handed and place my mouse on the left side of the keyboard.
Windos mouses frustrate me because I hit the right click button all the time and do things I don't want to do.
Me + Logitech = especially lulzy
"so how do you hold this thing?"
(http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/logitech-mx-revolution.jpg)
Besides, keyboard commands are where it's at, you're not going for speed if you're using a mouse in the first place.
/CMD+OP+CTRL+8
PS; only reason I don't have a Magic Trackpad is I'm really strong and push down hard on my mouse. Magic Trackpads slid away when I used them in the Apple Store, despite the bottoms being designed to prevent that.
It bothers me that people are good at using that Logitech mouse :p
Quote from: Krizonar on March 22, 2011, 12:13:03 AMWindos mouses frustrate me because I hit the right click button all the time and do things I don't want to do.
That's why you set it to "Left-handed operation", which switches the mousebuttons.
i'm a little late....
but i use a hello kitty mouse. :3
and the trackpad when i have it unplugged.
occasionally i'll use one of the school's tablets (wacoms, damn they rock, plus my tablet's broken :\). i also have this lulzy old IBM brick mouse from the late 80's-early 90's lying around. ^^
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 22, 2011, 07:00:32 AM
Quote from: Krizonar on March 22, 2011, 12:13:03 AMWindos mouses frustrate me because I hit the right click button all the time and do things I don't want to do.
That's why you set it to "Left-handed operation", which switches the mousebuttons.
That doesn't solve the problem of it's existence or ability to frequently be ridiculously counterproductive.
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on March 22, 2011, 01:03:55 PM
i'm a little late....
but i use a hello kitty mouse. :3
You could be a pro at Quake! You'd own the European Quake League single-handedly with a mouse like that and a HUD like this:
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2rrkrqs.jpg)
the only first person shooter i've ever been good at is 007 Goldeneye for the N64. ^^;
Quote from: Krizonar on March 22, 2011, 04:38:52 PMThat doesn't solve the problem of it's existence or ability to frequently be ridiculously counterproductive.
This.
I don't get why simplicity is often such an alien notion to Windows users... >__>
@bella: i find windows to be simpler than mac....
If you use anything long enough it'll become simple; but as somebody who used Windows for 11 years and an on-and-off user of GNU/Linux for about four years now, I can attest that OSX is spectacularly intuitive. -w-
I've played with a few Macs before, but never for very long
This is a repeating scenario every time:
me: How do I open a terminal again?
brother: Hover the mouse over the apple logo and hammer the page down key blah blah (whatever magic it really is, you get the point :p)
me: Ahh, cool... Hey, it has gcc. I miss my computer now
And then I swear to learn how to use a Mac properly, but never do :(
I used Macs side by side with PC's for eighteen years without developing an overwhelming fondness for or fanboyish devotion to either one. Though to be honest I never saw Mac as very 'simple'.
Does that make me the only person like that in the world?
I once was a Mac fanboy... before that computer started dying many times... Honestly, none of my other machines have been broken as often as the iMac did.
@stew: i agree with you, mac has always been like a foreign language that i just can't seem to pick up. :\
no computer is perfect, and at the end of the day it comes down to personal preference. :\
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on March 23, 2011, 08:11:48 PM
mac has always been like a foreign language that i just can't seem to pick up. :\
Perhaps, 1984 kodiak, with a little ipod to your mac pro and with 128 megs recommended you could cmd p to print and understand airplay, ipad...
my point exactly.
Kodiak? Alaska or Bear?
camera. 8)
Thas a Kodak mon.
going for a jamaican accent?
any OSes you want for a specific reason? i'd like 95 for nostalgia, and so i can play some of the older games. :3
I'd like a selection of PCs with every version of Windows on them and appropriate hardware for each era. For gaming and hobby stuffs, mainly.
Quote from: Krizonar on March 23, 2011, 08:17:39 PMPerhaps, 1984 kodiak, with a little ipod to your mac pro and with 128 megs recommended you could cmd p to print and understand airplay, ipad...
w-what?
*is confused*
Quote from: CanaryTan on March 24, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: Krizonar on March 23, 2011, 08:17:39 PMPerhaps, 1984 kodiak, with a little ipod to your mac pro and with 128 megs recommended you could cmd p to print and understand airplay, ipad...
w-what?
*is confused*
Makes perfect sense to me. I personally prefer using the command line for some tasks.
Just got 'Ghetto comp" up and running again with Win2K, probably going to slap Windows 7 on it though after a while.
Commanding p is a breach of contract!
But srsly, what cmd-p does?
...Does it... Make it... glow? Like how Playstation II & ps3 controllers vibrate?
The iPad? Is we talking about iPad?
Thx explain
Quote from: CanaryTan on March 24, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: Krizonar on March 23, 2011, 08:17:39 PMPerhaps, 1984 kodiak, with a little ipod to your mac pro and with 128 megs recommended you could cmd p to print and understand airplay, ipad...
w-what?
*is confused*
He's speaking Macintoshese you guys. >>;As for OSes I'd like to have and why, I want Multics. For historic value and research purposes, the same reason I use any other OS besides OSX (which is really the only one I do anything practical on).... >__>
@svx: ps1 games had analog capability, but only in the later games. (pretty sure THPS2 had it.)
@canary: i'm just as confused as you are. .__.;
@bells: pssh, at least windows doesn't have to hide behind some fancy lingo to sound official and smart. >.>;;
Quote from: Bella on March 24, 2011, 08:22:41 PM
He's speaking Macintoshese you guys. >>;
Western (Mac OS Roman)
Checking Journaled HFS Plus volume...
The Volume Belz0rs appears to be OK!
So sad Sherlock discontinued 2001 funeral.
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on March 24, 2011, 08:30:38 PM@bells: pssh, at least windows doesn't have to hide behind some fancy lingo to sound official and smart. >.>;;
Once upon a time,
Kriz thought it would be fun to construct an completely imaginary language made up of Apple terms. It would be like me making the statement "95 BSOD crashes DLL Hell product bloat international monopoly" and calling that a
Microsoft language. It doesn't make sense (well, much), it has no grammatical construct, it's a JOKE.
Are we clear?
(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/135996/Thom+Yorke.jpg)
Quote from: Bella on March 24, 2011, 08:38:28 PMBSOD crashes DLL Hell
Not Microsoft's fault, blame 3rd parties.
Quote from: Bella on March 24, 2011, 08:38:28 PMproduct bloat
WINDOWS 95 IS NOT BLOATED. IT RUNS ON A FRIGGEN 386 FOR CHRISSAKE!
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 24, 2011, 08:45:44 PM
WINDOWS 95 IS NOT BLOATED. IT RUNS ON A FRIGGEN 386 FOR CHRISSAKE!
User differs on "System/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0.jdk/Contents/Libraries", should be 0, user is 95.
Quote from: Krizonar on March 24, 2011, 08:51:13 PMUser differs on "System/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0.jdk/Contents/Libraries", should be 0, user is 95.
ERROR: WINDOWS DOES NOT UNDERSTAND MACINTOSH SYSTEM COMMANDS. PLEASE TRY AGAIN USING PROPER SYNTAX.
File sharing>hiPC.mov
....Even the pope couldn't forgive the amount of COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CompletelyMissingThePoint) happening in this thread.
(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/54/pope_face_palm.jpg)
"Oh for GOD'S SAKE. REALLLLLLLLLLY?!"
KI HAVE BEING ON-TOPIC PLZ? LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN.
I have one main computer, a 2.93ghz 24'' aluminum iMac running Mac OSX 10.6 Snow Leopard. I virtualize many more OSes and own around two-dozen computers in all, so it would be hard for me to list all the systems I use/own.
Quote from: Bella on March 24, 2011, 09:05:56 PMaluminum
INCORRECT! It's spelt
aluminium. No on-topic for you now.
I have one main computer, a 2.66ghz 13''
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 24, 2011, 09:10:02 PM
aluminium
Macbook Pro running Mac OSX 10.6 Snow Leopard.
HP Pavilion DV 6000 Special Edition running Windows 7 (made for Windows Vista).
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on March 24, 2011, 09:45:18 PM
HP Pavilion DV 6000 Special Edition running Windows 7 (made for Windows Vista).
Hey, that's my old laptop!
The one I had to fix with a blowtorch!
You need to toss it into a volcano
or sell it
FASTBecause...
Type dv6000 into Youtube! And look! :(
http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/14/hp-intros-white-dv6500-ct-special-edition-laptop-in-japan/
.......no. >>;;
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on March 24, 2011, 10:14:57 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/14/hp-intros-white-dv6500-ct-special-edition-laptop-in-japan/
.......no. >>;;
Fascinating (likes reading specs) /searched for specs/, do you have baseline specs, or upgraded?
mm? you mean speedy herself? well, the motherboard isn't original, since i fried the original one. :\
We have an operating systems thread, do we even have a hardware thread?
not that i know of.
maybe it'll overlap, like the fetishes and sex threads.
come to think of it....aren't you underage....? :\
Perhaps, perhaps.
For some reason, I just really like reading tech specs.
Here, neither me or Katarina are technically under consensual age (not that we would do that stuff, I just like cuddles and holding hands).
lol. i'm not judging you. :3
yeah, it can be rather interesting to know the specs of a computer. but after accidentally frying speedy, i've sworn never to work on laptops again. ^^;
I knows, just sex in general doesn't appeal to me, I'm more of a romantic. (want another candle light dinner now...)
Always ground yourself with your screwdriver before touching insides :o
I work on laptops all the time, had to clean a 15'' Macbook Pro's fans because the user kept it in ridiculously disgusting conditions.
I also frequently work on the school's ancient Power Mac G3s.
Quote from: Krizonar on March 25, 2011, 12:55:55 AM
I also frequently work on Tokiwadai Middle Schools's ancient
prehistoric
Apple-in-California brand
Powerbook
G
3's
As do I, Tōma-san. As do I...
notrly though(do I need a new avatar now too? :p)
I sensed a pope in this thread. Yes, my stomach's never mistaken...
Oh, nothing creative to add. Still Mint. ^^;
Quote from: svx on March 25, 2011, 04:11:25 AM
Quote from: Krizonar on March 25, 2011, 12:55:55 AM
I also frequently work on Tokiwadai Middle Schools's ancient
prehistoric
Apple-in-California brand
Powerbook
G
3's
As do I, Tōma-san. As do I...
notrly though
(do I need a new avatar now too? :p)
Yes, tho Judgment use Windows laptops:
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/railgun_laptop.png)
I'm always helping Kuroko out with hers; she gets a lot of viruses due to the porn sites she frequents.
*has the face of icon*
Uh....still using Linux... :U
Quotealways ground yourself with your screwdriver before touching insides :o
WHY DID THIS SOUND SO DAMN PERVY IN MY MIND. WHY!?
Did I ever tell the forum about the time I tried to fix an outlet with a metal fork and ended up blowing half the fuses in the house? I didn't think it was touching anything with current running through it!
Also: My favorite screwdriver is insulated.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/bhlqn8.jpg)
Quoteoutlet+metal fork
You know, that sort of bad idea is the kind that can easily get you quite dead. >_>
Just mild electrical shock; it's even lulzier because it wasn't a regular outlet it was the kind for outdoor use on the end of an extension cord. See, my dad accidentally broke the spike off the bottom and I tried to fix it with a spoon.
Quote from: Krizonar on March 24, 2011, 10:50:56 PM
We have an operating systems thread, do we even have a hardware thread?
This is the What OS AND Computer Do You Use Thread, so, yes, we do.
@nej: we're all pervs here.
@kriz: i fried it by trying to crack the computer open like a clamshell. a screw became lodged in it and when i tried to fire it up, poof.
@red: eventually, all OSes will absorb each other (except some forms of linux, since there are more varieties than insects on the earth).
@stew: don't go overboard with electrocution. it can be fun at first, but then you're unplugging your computer's charger and your hand slips and suddenly there's a shock running through your heart so powerful you can feel it skip a beat. o__o
i'd like to get a skin for speedy..... :3
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on March 25, 2011, 09:10:00 PM@red: eventually, all OSes will absorb each other (except some forms of linux, since there are more varieties than insects on the earth).
Doubtful. They'll probably all go Unix or *Nix-like....
I knew that Unix would be involved in Instrumentality.
All other OS's dissolve into Tang? I'm in if I get to touch UNIX-sama.
Quote from: Bella on March 25, 2011, 11:36:24 PMDoubtful. They'll probably all go Unix or *Nix-like....
Trust you to say that.
No touching Unix-sama, she's mine... loljk, no you can have her. *Chases off after Multics-hime*
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 26, 2011, 06:56:06 AMTrust you to say that.
...cause that's the way the whole of the operating system industry has been going for oh, the last 40 years? There's the BSDs and GNU/Linux distros in the server and professional (and to a much smaller extent, home) markets, Mac OSX among home computers, Android and iOS in the phone markets, most of IBM's large scale systems are based on Unix and there's the various embedded *Nix OSes in everything from routers and DVRs to satellites and aircraft. I wouldn't be surprised if Unix systems already outweigh non-Unix ones...
Just waiting for the Windows Hegemony to fall, are we? -w-;
And let a 40-year old computer virus take its place. :P
can't we all just get along? :[
Yeah, I was just being snarky, and saw an opportunity for it. :P
No we can't, you, your computer, your mother, your dog and your mailman will all have to assimilate to the Unix way of life. >>
Browsing from 10.4.11 Tiger!
It is good to give them exercise every now and then.
i'm too tired to assimilate. =__=;
The Borg are dissapoint.
The Borg can kiss my ass. I use my PC for gaming and web browsing, that't it. I'm not migrating to a new OS unless I stop gaming or it can game just as well as Windows. End of.
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 27, 2011, 06:33:11 AM
The Borg can kiss my ass. I use my PC for gaming and web browsing, that't it. I'm not migrating to a new OS unless I stop gaming or it can game just as well as Windows. End of.
Agreed! Though I would like better pen support and better support for Adobe products as they are kinda lacking when used in Windows...
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 27, 2011, 06:33:11 AM
The Borg can kiss my ass. I use my PC for gaming and web browsing, that't it. I'm not migrating to a new OS unless I stop gaming or it can game just as well as Windows. End of.
It's hilarious how gamers bitch and moan about how certain OSes are not able to host their games and will, therefor, never switch to said OSes, all the while COMPLETELY ignoring the concepts of virtualization (though I can't blame them for this one: the concept of using virtualized systems to run programs the host can't
has only been around since the 1960s) and dual-booting.
Using nintendo DSi! :D
Quote from: Bella on March 27, 2011, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 27, 2011, 06:33:11 AM
The Borg can kiss my ass. I use my PC for gaming and web browsing, that't it. I'm not migrating to a new OS unless I stop gaming or it can game just as well as Windows. End of.
It's hilarious how gamers bitch and moan about how certain OSes are not able to host their games and will, therefor, never switch to said OSes, all the while COMPLETELY ignoring the concepts of virtualization (though I can't blame them for this one: the concept of using virtualized systems to run programs the host can't has only been around since the 1960s) and dual-booting.
Ew, dual booting :(
I run STO in virtuilization (because it's only available for computer) ... but games are better on consoles!
Quote from: CanaryTan on March 27, 2011, 12:46:57 PM
Using nintendo DSi! :D
When I first got the e-mail from them, I checked it out and one of the things I thought was how Nintendo has stepped up their game.
Quote from: Bella on March 27, 2011, 12:27:17 PMIt's hilarious how gamers bitch and moan about how certain OSes are not able to host their games and will, therefor, never switch to said OSes, all the while COMPLETELY ignoring the concepts of virtualization (though I can't blame them for this one: the concept of using virtualized systems to run programs the host can't has only been around since the 1960s) and dual-booting.
Why the hell would I want to emulate Windows in order to play my games? Emulation is SO poor right now, that the performance would be unacceptable. Add to that incompatibility, cos some programs/games just don't like emulators. I'm also not going to have an OS JUST for gaming and an OS JUST for web browsing, it's too much hassle and takes up too much hard drive space. Single OS or bust.
Your argument is fail. Long live Windows!
The remarks about assimilation weren't meant to be taken seriously. :(
Here I am, using OSX as my main OS, joking about Unix assimilating people in Instrumentality. :P
Guess I need to pull this out again...
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q364/tcmapler/1300486641678.png)
The main reasons I use Windows is that of the following:
1. Microsoft Windows is used in a good 85% of business' around the world.
2. I need to use and completely understand Windows to make a living alongside my dad
3. A good solid 95% of games made for the computer are mainly Windows only compatible with a few exceptions such as Wine.
Though I do come across the Macintosh user at work and most of the time they have a copy of Windows installed alongside OSX which makes my job MUCH easier when I need to restore files and yata yata yata but I get handed most of the Macintosh stuff because I'm more familiar than my dad at somethings within OSX.
OS WARS: For teh lulz. -w-
Reminds me of multimedia class...
"you got to does all your work on windows"
lol f that
/takes it home, does it all in 1/3 the time and brings it back 10x better
"look good, u get A"
@bella, red: i love you both dearly, but shut the fuck up. you two sound like idiots when you argue about something as petty as os choice. there's -tans for mac, there's -tans for windows. hell, there's -tans for computers that don't exist anymore. if we can't learn to love all of them, we shouldn't be here. >:[
@canary: yey! ^^ there was a video on my friend's dsi that i wanted badly....but i couldn't find it online. >__<;
@kraus: likewise on most points, plus i'm more familiar with it and since i use it for school i need to be. :\
@aurora: eh, we're all probably gonna be assimilated under singularity anyway, but i figure it'll be under a completely new OS (like how if persocoms were invented they'd probably run on independent software).
i was thinking about all the things i'd do to make a persocom if i could this morning. :\ speaker in the mouth, motion sensors in the eyes, microphones in the ears. i'd make her have speech recognition, maybe a cd drive in the head like dorothy wainwright, maybe a tempature gauge in where the heart would be.....
i'd need some longass cables, since the motherboard would likely be in the back. =P
I don't doubt the usefulness or place that Windows has in the computing world; it's just that the technological superiority of Unix is without question. There's a reason why Windows-powered machines are exceedingly rare in the world of servers, mainframes, supercomputers and other large-scale systems - and why Unix variants are prevalent among them.
(Don't believe me, at least on the server point? Go to this site (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph), type in a URL, and behold as some variant of *Nix and/or Apache [which is usually used on Linux servers just so you know] comes up as the OS/server software.)
Windows isn't a bad OS, but it's absurd trying to compare it to - or claim its superiority over - Unix.
QUIET WOMAN
THIS IS NOT THE THEATRE TO ARGUE SUPERIORITY.
WE ARE A PEACEFUL NATION OF COMPUTER-LOVERS, IF YOU DISTURB THAT PEACE SO HELP ME I WILL COME UP THERE AND MAKE YOU LISTEN TO "HELLO WINDOWS" UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO PLAY NICE.
and don't think i can't track you down. i used to sniff out my friends on the playground--literally. >:[
FINE, BUT LET ME STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE LIKES OF OPENVMS, MULTICS, TOPS-10, TENEX AND ITS ARE FAR SUPERIOR THAN UNIX, WINDOWS, OR ANYTHING ELSE WE USE TODAY. NOTHING LIKE STUDYING COMPUTER HISTORY TO PUT OUR PITIFUL OSES IN THEIR PLACES....
This better not be the start of a flame war.
Unix was the Windows of its era. :D Both sides are equal!
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on March 27, 2011, 09:20:52 PMUnix was the Windows of its era. :D Both sides are equal!
Oh my yes. Right down to it destroying virtually everything that came before it/making the market toxic to any other alternatives. In an ironic twist of fate, Windows almost did the same thing to Macintosh - but Mac was able to come back in the market
because it became a Unix-based OS.
KARMA!
But the Classic Mac OS still hung on for a few years after OSX's introduction, and during the Mac OS 9 era, Apple was already making a comeback.
Makes me sad to think the only practical way one can escape from Unix is to switch to Windows and avoid nearly every smartphone model on the market.
I know all about the OS Wars, but what was it about Unix that allowed it to take over the market, and when?
I might as well do a run-down of my PCs again (After all, in the time since the last time I actually posted on here, some things have changed with my fleet; such as giving them names to easily identify them):
Main desktop: Custom (All-new equipment)
Name: 2k-tan (It's pretty obvious where this name came from, even if it doesn't run on Windows 2000)
Processor: Intel Core i7 (3.4Ghz quad-core)
RAM: 4GB (For now, at least)
OS: Windows 7 Professional (Service Pack 1)
Secondary desktop: Custom (Build around an old Dell desktop)
Name: Frankenstein (Since it was created with used parts during one of my mad scientist moments)
Processor: Intel Pentium III (600Mhz)
RAM: 512MB
OS: Windows 2000 Professional (Service Pack 4 w\ unofficial Daylight Savings Time patch)
Classic gaming desktop: NEC Powermate VP75
Name: The Yeti (Originated from an old in-joke among my family, involving the busted case fan it used to have)
Processor: Intel Pentium (75Mhz)
RAM: 40MB
OS: Windows 98SE
Experimental desktop: NEC Powermate 433D
Name: Minefield (It's not exactly the safest place to be)
Processor: Intel 486SX (33Mhz)
RAM: 16MB
OS: Anything I can get to run on it (There's a reason it's the experimental desktop)
Main Laptop: Compaq Presario CQ61
Name: Asagi (My favorite character in the Disgaea series)
Processor: AMD Sempron (2.1Ghz)
RAM: 2GB
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium (Service Pack 1)
Old laptop that just won't die: Compaq Presario 1655
Name: Laptop (Creatively named, isn't it?)
Processor: Intel Pentium II (233Mhz)
RAM: 64MB
OS: Windows 2000 Professional
NEC systems, I had one when I was little but its long gone now...
Anyway I guess I should update what I've got now as well!
Gateway LX
Name: USS AWESOME
CPU: AMD Phenom 9500 x4 (2.20GHz)
RAM: 8GB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Emachine
Name: Raika
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 (2.22GHz)
RAM: 3GB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Basic Dell desktop (I forgot its name...)
Name: USS BADASS
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (2.80GHz)
RAM: 1GB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Dell Poweredge 600SC
Name: Mertvaya Ruka (TROLL FACE)
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (2.20GHz)
RAM: 512MB or 1GB, can't remember right now :P
OS: Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Power Macintosh G3
Name: Blueberry (Its color is blue)
CPU: PowerPC G3 350 MHz
RAM: 128 MB
OS: Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger
IMAC G3 (333MHz) (Lime)
Name: Candy (Apples iMac theme for it)
CPU: PowerPC G3 (333MHz)
RAM: 32MB
OS: Mac OSX 10.3
Acer TravelMate 5720
Name: Apache
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo (2.22GHz)
RAM: 2GB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Acer Aspire desktop
Name: Its my lil brother's
CPU: AMD Phenom x3 (2.22GHz)
RAM: 4GB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Quote from: Dr. Kraus on March 28, 2011, 04:27:57 PM
NEC systems, I had one when I was little but its long gone now...
I've had that VP75 for about 15 years, and it still works perfectly. I faintly remember when it arrived all those years ago; my parents unpacking it and struggling to install Windows 95 because our tech guy, while nice enough to install a 200MB hard drive before sending it to us, wasn't nice enough to setup Windows.
What graphics cards do those machines have guys?
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 28, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
What graphics cards do those machines have guys?
The only computers that have enhanced graphics are the Gateway with a EVGA NVidia Geforce 9500 1GB and the Power Macintosh G3 with whatever nvidia card is in that old thang...
god you guys have good setups. >__<;
i suppose it's worth mentioning that Speedy runs on Windows 7 Ultimate (SP1, several language packs installed)
Mission: Find an old box I can convert to a DOS so I can play these new DOS games I got. A-Train, Age of Rifles, and EA NHL Hockey.
Quote from: Red-Machine on March 28, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
What graphics cards do those machines have guys?
Here's a quick rundown of mine:
2k-tan: ATI Radeon HD 4350 (For now, at least)
Frankenstein: ATI All-In-Wonder 128
The Yeti: S3 Trio64V+
Minefield: Cirrus Logic on-board video
Asagi: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200
Laptop: Chips & Tech on-board video
I run Windows 95 atm,
100 megaheartz of RAM
1 bajillion 0 core CPUs
and 1 GB of hardrive
What are these "operating systems" you speak of?
IBM 7090
32,768 words
2.18 μs
IBM 7302 Core Storage
Why does the eve of april fool's make everyone so...SILLY? >_>
I was selected to be a tester of Lion.
So I'm now using Mac OSX (10.7)
So, I just finished torrenting eOS (Elementary OS)
It just came out yesterday. Unfortunately, there wasn't a regular download option. Just torrent or have them ship it to you for $10
and so I decided to torrent. it didn't take long, it took like 3 hours. :U
eOS is by far, my favorite linux distribution.
It took less than 10 minutes for me. :3
Quote from: Red-Machine on April 02, 2011, 12:51:29 PM
It took less than 10 minutes for me. :3
I don't have any ports set up xD
I could never really figure that out.
are you liking eOS? (it resembles ubuntu alot but i still love eeeet <3)
Quote from: Krizonar on April 02, 2011, 10:53:06 AM
I was selected to be a tester of Lion.
So I'm now using Mac OSX (10.7)
All this talk of Lion is making me want to buy a copy and run it when its released....
........on a VM, since I'd never replace my dear, dear Snow Leopard with Lion.
I have no interest in upgrading to Lion. It dropped all support for Rosetta (including Universal apps), which will screw a lot of people over, including me since few of my apps are Intel-only, and also dislike how it's turning OSX into iOS, so I'll stick with Leopard for as long as I can. Maybe I'll run it on a VM, but I don't think it will become my main OS any time soon. :-/
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on April 02, 2011, 02:42:17 PM
I have no interest in upgrading to Lion. It dropped all support for Rosetta (including Universal apps), which will screw a lot of people over, including me since few of my apps are Intel-only, and also dislike how it's turning OSX into iOS, so I'll stick with Leopard for as long as I can. Maybe I'll run it on a VM, but I don't think it will become my main OS any time soon. :-/
*hugs Aurora-hime tightly*
THIS. THIS THIS THIS.
I really hate the shift toward an iOS-like interface too.... if I get it, it'll be to play around with on a VM. -___-
Shame over me, didn't even know a new Release was coming...
But that iOS-esque interface SUCKS big time IMO... but I gotta admit I wasn't all too pleased with the metallic look of Leopard and Snow Leopard either. IMO Tiger's clean white look was rather perfect.
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on April 02, 2011, 02:42:17 PM
I have no interest in upgrading to Lion. It dropped all support for Rosetta (including Universal apps), which will screw a lot of people over, including me since few of my apps are Intel-only, and also dislike how it's turning OSX into iOS, so I'll stick with Leopard for as long as I can. Maybe I'll run it on a VM, but I don't think it will become my main OS any time soon. :-/
I've had one app break, which was Onyx, who for some reason make every app OS specific (there's an Onyx for Tiger/Leopard/SL/etc). So that's actually their fault.
My garageband add-ons are universal and it did NOT break them.
The only things really reminiscent (lol I spelled that wrong and it auto-corrected, nice) of iOS are the scroll bars, which are actually incredibly sexy. The new theme is sexy too.
If anything, going from 10.6 to 10.7 will be a lot like going from System 6 to System 7, but may be even worse of a transition because of even worse compatibility issues.
@Krizo: Is it just PPC-only apps that don't work anymore?
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on April 02, 2011, 03:02:04 PM
@Krizo: Is it just PPC-only apps that don't work anymore?
Yes.
I had no problems upgrading, it even kept my background and dock icons.
So, I got to play with Ubuntu on my friend's laptop...
I'm... well... confused...
The window manager was neat. I guess. I've never seen it before, nor have I heard of it before, but it was distinctly bass-ackwards... Eh, maybe something based on Gnome?
Scroll the scroll bar up to scroll the window down?
Minimize/maximize/close buttons in reverse order, on the left side of windows no less? :p
Did not like this Ubuntu
Not dyslexic enough for it
Brb, buying myself a TI-89.
Do you mean the TI-89 calculator or the TI-99 computer?
The "computer" is the TI-92. And I meant the TI-89, seeing as that's what I wrote. Then again the TI-89 as pretty much the power and capability of an old 80's Tandy, so yeah...
I should probably sell my own TI-8something calculator. Absolutely no use for it after high school since they were banned at university, and I'm probably never going to need a graphical calculator anymore. ~.~
Why in hell was it banned at uni anyway? -_-;
I have no idea. That reminds me, which I took the ACT exams in high school, TI-89s weren't allowed, but TI-83s and 84s were. How could a calculator be too powerful that it's banned?
I just use a standard business calculator and MY BRAIN~!
suppose i should mention i'm using windows xp pro (SP2) right now. :\
little slow, and this keyboard sucks, but it's getting me by.
i'm worried about what's going to come, though. :\
Well, the TI-89 have a variety of HAX functions that allows it to do a lot of stuff that the -84's and -83's can't...
Once you have it in your hand and can compare them both, you start to very much understand why it's not allowed at the ACT. -w-;
I've got two T-84's that serve me well in the school/work area but i've never used a T-89 before...
It radiates of awesome. =W=
:\
I have a Casio. It does everything a TI does with two presses of a button. And what it doesn't do you can code for it with no one the wiser. Then again, I'm not exactly a high mathematics sort of fellow.
Dual-boot of Ubuntu right now for my laptop, I just needed something that wouldn't thrash the laptop around and make it angry. Ubuntu has always had an appeal to me as its just a nice and stable Linux distro, it has its ups and downs but overall its just what I need it for (web surf, programming, GIMP, openoffice, etc.) and a little bit more!
I still will keep Windows on here for my dad to use and for all the programs and shows I can only use/watch with using Windows :P
come to think of it, i need to fix that computer that's on my floor.
currently, sis's laptop:
Dell Inspiron 6000 running Windows XP Professional
1.30 GHz Intel Celeron Processor
56gb Drive
.99gb of RAM (?)
^ omg, 1.3 ghz celeron? how does that thing even load it's screen? ;o;
Still using Lion, but I will be writing up my feedback (Choza beat me to it D=) and sending it in tomorrow before I go back to Snow Leopard.
Using eOS with Mac theme installed.
IBM computer
Intel Pentium 4 processor
Quote from: NejinOniwa on April 03, 2011, 12:51:58 PM
Why in hell was it banned at uni anyway? -_-;
Our professor of maths had heard of these "new graphical calculators that would connect to internet" and decided to ban all graphical ones to not go through any. xD
I think the one we were made to buy in high school was a TI-83+ or something like that. Cannot really tell without seeing it.
Dang that sucks, the ban thing since I was too lazy to page back and read about it before; we're required to have a graphing calculator for math courses here. 'course I don't go to university.
Well, I finally got around to finishing the restoration of my original custom PC, so here's some info on it
Another one: Full-on restoration of my original custom PC
Name: Frankenstein Classic (It retains 90% of it's core components from when it was built in 2005)
Processor: Intel Celeron (400Mhz)
RAM: 192MB
Graphics: On-board ATI Rage Pro Turbo
OS: Windows ME
I went out of my way to obtain a legit, retail copy of Windows ME to finish this project, since that's what it was running on when I first built it (Although, it was a pretty crude installation when I first built it; the install literally amounted to throwing in a hard drive from a dead PC, which happened to have ME on it, and just running with it. Surprisingly, it was actually quite stable; I didn't start seeing BSODs until that hard drive began to die). Also, call me crazy, but I actually like ME; it's one of the most underrated versions of Windows to date.
Quote from: PentiumMMX on April 11, 2011, 11:41:49 PMAlso, call me crazy, but I actually like ME; it's one of the most underrated versions of Windows to date.
+1 I also bought a copy of it, though it is an Upgrade version.
+1 Red sent me a copy in the mail, though i've yet to find a PC for it. :3
@kriz: actually, the screen is falling off. :3
Quote from: Red-Machine on April 12, 2011, 08:01:32 AM
Quote from: PentiumMMX on April 11, 2011, 11:41:49 PMAlso, call me crazy, but I actually like ME; it's one of the most underrated versions of Windows to date.
+1 I also bought a copy of it, though it is an Upgrade version.
My copy is a full version, with it's original retail box. Now, to find a copy of Windows 2000 like this that is at a reasonable price, to replace the CD-R my uncle burned for me about 5 years ago...
what's wrong with burned CD-R's? .__.;
Morals, apparently. ->-
meh. feels too petty a matter to involve morals. >.>;
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on April 12, 2011, 04:59:43 PM
what's wrong with burned CD-R's? .__.;
At that point they become more akin to hot waffles and don't exactly go well with the drive.
come to think of it, i have one or two CDs from a long time ago that are unreadable because they somehow melted slightly. :\
I've burned CDs before, they burn very oddly and contort themselves while being very shiny.
This is what I'm using right now...
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q364/tcmapler/1301706586647.jpg)
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on April 12, 2011, 04:59:43 PM
what's wrong with burned CD-R's? .__.;
It lacks the pretty, shiny hologram of awesomeness that a legit copy has. You can't argue with a pretty, shiny hologram of awesomeness.
in some cases, yes. -w-
but, you can doodle on the CD-Rs...... ;^;
speedy's fixed, so windows 7. :3
I've done some upgrades to 2k-tan and the Yeti, so here's a rundown of what they're like now:
Main desktop: Custom (All-new equipment)
Name: 2k-tan (It's pretty obvious where this name came from, even if it doesn't run on Windows 2000)
Processor: Intel Core i7 (3.4Ghz quad-core)
RAM: 8GB
Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6850
Main OS: Windows 7 Professional (Service Pack 1 w\ Windows XP Mode)
Other OSes: Windows 2000 Professional (Service Pack 4 Update Rollup 1) on Virtualbox
I was thankful my graphics card showed up when it did; Portal 2 ran terribly with the Radeon HD 4350 (If too much was happening on-screen, the framerate got really choppy), and this new card was exactly what I needed. Now, I feel 2k-tan is finally ready for me to test BluRay playback...
Classic gaming desktop: NEC Powermate VP75
Name: The Yeti (Originated from an old in-joke among my family, involving the busted case fan it used to have)
Processor: Intel Pentium MMX (200Mhz) Intel Pentium (75Mhz)
RAM: 40MB
Graphics: S3 Trio64+ Cirrus Logic on-board video w\ 1MB VRAM upgrade
OS: Windows 98SE
After struggling for the past 2 days to get my USB ports to work again after attempting to upgrade the Yeti using an old OverDrive processor, even going to the extreme of scrapping my wallpaper and going back to the solid color background I had before, sacrificing my S3 Trio64+ to make room for an Ethernet NIC to download a ton of patches from Windows Update in hopes that one fixes this issue, and the time that was wasted adjusting jumpers and tinkering with the BIOS to get it to want to boot with the new processor in the first place, I decided to switch back to it's original 75Mhz processor and get a refund.
It's no wonder nobody ever talks about OverDrive processors...
SOOOOOOOO...
In the kitchen...there's an iPad.
And it will remain there. Or at least, in the house.
I'm unsure as to how to approach this situation. >__>
iPads.... blargh. I don't get all the tablet love.... :I
I KNOW. BUT THERE IS A FOREIGN APPLE-MANUFACTURED OBJECT IN MY HOUSE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY BECAUSE SOMEONE LIVING OUTSIDE IT IS ITS ACTUAL OWNER. Stupid EPA, why'd you have to supply your people with bloody 'pads? >:[
Quote from: NejinOniwa on April 27, 2011, 04:39:59 PM
....why'd you have to supply your people with bloody 'pads? >:[
You have NO IDEA how close I just came to making a menstruation joke. Bwahahaa.
MAKE IT! THE DEITY OF WORSE HUMOR COMMANDS YOU!
Quote from: NejinOniwa on April 27, 2011, 05:34:09 PM
MAKE IT! THE DEITY OF WORSE HUMOR COMMANDS YOU!
Ehh, I forgot was I was gonna say. :I
good. that's one aspect of being a girl that i like to have amnesia about. >__< (stupid, fucking gender. >__<; )
now that the holy light of FREE TIME is visible, i might get a couple boxes up and running. >:3
currently: windows 7, 98
possibly future: windows 7, XP, 2000, ME, 98, 95.
That's too bad... I actually like my cycle and feel kinda sorry that so many women don't. :/ (I can understand why, some people have a really rough time of it... but due to stress/emotional issues I've skipped periods before and it always makes me feel like my body is broken...) ><
Lol, weirdest place EVER for this topic. But it had to be said, I LOVE ranting about this issue. (Namely because stupid social conditioning has made everyone want to ignore it, to the detriment of about half the world's population). =w=
NEW THREAD MATERIAL? Derp -w-;
I get the feeling that, if started, that would be the most amazingly weird thread ever, lol.
if you start on that topic, i'm disowning you. the only things i like about being female is 1. ability to wear whatever i want w/o weird stares, 2. boobs to confuse the menfolk and 3. ability to acquire childrens without dire need for others' help. after that, i'd rather be gender neutral.
BACK ON TOPIC
technically, since there's a vista downstairs, that means that i'll have a near-complete sequence of windows OSes..... 8)
YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH (http://people.rit.edu/~bss6378/instantCSI/)
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 01, 2011, 02:21:06 PM
if you start on that topic, i'm disowning you
That cinches it.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA~~~
i hope you realize i was serious when i said that. >:[
getting windows 95 on timmy is gonna be a bitch.....suggestions people? (and don't say emulator.)
Easy squeezy lemon peezy.
Download a 95 boot disk off teh nets, get it on a floppy and then use that to partition and format the hard drive. I can walk you through it if you like. :3
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 01, 2011, 11:39:57 PM
i hope you realize i was serious when i said that. >:[
I hope you realise I was serious when I said what I did. Though I'm lazy as hell and don't feel like starting a new discussion atm.... -W-;;;;
I don't get the appeal of Windows 95 at all... 3.1 is the best as far as vintage Windows versions are concerned. 8)
At least for me, the appeal of 95 is nostalgic value; it was the first version I regularly used and the one I learned all the ins and outs of. Although, I do like 3.11; it's not quite as user friendly as 95, but it's still quite good (Better than NT 4.0; NT wasn't viable for anything outside of business use until Windows 2000)
@pentium: that's the same for me. plus i have a couple games that run best on 95. :3
@red: i'd appriciate that.
@bella: we discuss alot of things here, do we really need to start discussing bodily functions? >__<;
*faaaaaaaaaacepaaaaaaaaaalm*
No, what I meant was I wanted to start a general purpose "Girl Things" thread. (For random discussions, musings and rants about living as a woman). But considering that there aren't many of us here, and the fact I'm lazy as hell... it probably won't get done. -.-
@Bella: If I managed to get my alternate universe distaff counterpart on this site, you'd have one more lady to talk with. Granted, I first need to build a TARDIS, figure out how to travel between alternate universes...
@bella: aaah. ok, that i MIGHT participate in. but it'd be rather awkward since this a mostly-male site, and we can't bar them from posting. :\
do game consoles use their own OSes? :\
The modern ones do, I know that for sure. They have their own OSes made specifically for that console, but the Xbox and 360 use a modified version of Windows.
And of course, the PS3 -USED- to be able to run Linux (most notably Yellow Dog, which has a PS3 version). Reading about how Sony dropped support for Linux now makes me rethink Yellow Dog-tan's backstory as a PS3 fangirl. She's been betrayed. :(
well, it's their loss. she probably would have been harder to hack, meaning alot less people would have lost their info. :\
Well, I accidentally killed Windows XP Mode trying to make the Whistler theme work (The theme used in earlier prototype versions of Windows XP); so now, 2k-tan the Desktop only has Windows 2000 Mode through Virtualbox (Or, as I labeled it, "2k-on-2k Mode"). Besides, 2k-on-2k is much more useful than XP Mode, plus having bits of the interface of both 7 and 2000 blended together on-screen is simply awesome; a nice mix of old and new
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 05, 2011, 01:24:20 PM
@bella: aaah. ok, that i MIGHT participate in. but it'd be rather awkward since this a mostly-male site, and we can't bar them from posting. :\
It's only awkward if you make it awkward. =____=
Back on topic:
I'm using a 2.93ghz Intel Core Core 2 Duo PC running a proprietary variety of BSD Unix, which happens to be the only certified Unix on the home computer market. It has 4gb ram and a 700bg hdd and two 500gb backup disks.
@pentium: sucks that you lost xp. but if you're happy, at least you're happy. :3
@bells: anything having to do with things like that is awkward in my book. excuse me for being a bit more conservative in that department. :\
so there was a Unix home version? :3 (should we put her in a track suit and put her hair in a ponytail? >w< )
@Choco: I still have the installer for XP Mode archived, although I probably won't set it up again until I either get that 128GB SSD I've had my eyes on or a 1TB HDD; the old 80GB HDD I'm using now just doesn't have enough space for everything.
mmm. you're outgrowing your drive like i outgrew my music drive. :\
QuoteI'm using a 2.93ghz Intel Core Core 2 Duo PC running a proprietary variety of BSD Unix
But that's just your iMac, with some Semantics. -_-;
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 05, 2011, 10:58:07 PMso there was a Unix home version? :3 (should we put her in a track suit and put her hair in a ponytail? >w< )
Yes, and it's called Mac OSX 10.6.
The only home-use/small-scale server-use Unix to be certified under the Single Unix Specification. >W<
Quote from: NejinOniwa on May 05, 2011, 11:16:55 PM
QuoteI'm using a 2.93ghz Intel Core Core 2 Duo PC running a proprietary variety of BSD Unix
But that's just your iMac, with some Semantics. -_-;
That's right. ～(￣▽￣～)
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 05, 2011, 11:04:35 PM
mmm. you're outgrowing your drive like i outgrew my music drive. :\
Yeah. The drive seemed bigger in the PC I pulled it from, which ran on Windows XP
lol. XP likes em' big and chunky. xD
@bells: use the common name for stuff from now on. I don't claim i'm using some fancy unreleased version of windows with a custom overlay because i'm using a bootleg copy of 7 with a teto kasane themepack. :\
...........But Mac OSX IS a variety of BSD Unix..... it has far more in common with its *Nix kin - BSD, Linux, Solaris, HP/UX, Tru64, Mach, Darwin, even the ancestral Research Unix versions that Bell Labs made throughout the 1970s - than it does anything in the Mac Classic lineup. -________-
But you COULD claim you're using a nonstandard version of Windows NT 6.1 with a graphics shell, Aero and whatnot. Or VMS2 6.1, if one would dare speak of it that way.
And I could claim I'm running a modified, highly streamlined and optimised version of Windows NT 5.1 on my laptop that is powered by teh awesomeness that is nVidia (both physically and graphically).
Wait... I am. I win!
You know - one could also quite possibly claim that you're a delusional zealot. The degree of truth found in such non-objective statements tend to be rather...variable, however, so I wouldn't.
XP Performance Edition, running Stardock ObjectDesktop using a custom nVidia theme with an nVidia GeForce2 Go graphics chip. Look them up, if you don't believe me.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/333hizl.gif)
Instead of going on a rant, I refer you to the picture above this post.
Quote from: NejinOniwa on May 06, 2011, 01:41:31 AM
But you COULD claim you're using a nonstandard version of Windows NT 6.1 with a graphics shell, Aero and whatnot. Or VMS2 6.1, if one would dare speak of it that way.
NT 6.1, certainly - but claiming that any NT-based Windows is a modified version of VMS is like saying that any *Nix OS is a "modified version or Multics". In the loosest sense, it's true... but only in the loosest sense.
Quote from: Red-Machine on May 06, 2011, 07:38:40 AM
And I could claim I'm running a modified, highly streamlined and optimised version of Windows NT 5.1 on my laptop that is powered by teh awesomeness that is nVidia (both physically and graphically).
Wait... I am. I win!
Not to dis you: I don't understand your love for graphics cards. I will never understand. I am cool with this.
Also: saying "I win" on teh internets is like wearing an Ed Hardy hat IRL. It gives a bad impression to anyone who sees it.. >______>
@bella: unless you're playing the game "i win". :3
still running windows 7. however, she has Teto's voice, and my phone has Nanami's voice. :3
I think the most modified version of Windows I ever used was the version of Windows 95 I had on a laptop that, sadly, no longer exists; I used ResHack to relabel it as "Windows 96", had some unofficial modifications installed to patch the crippling memory leak in Internet Explorer 5, and even had Program Manager fully take the place of the taskbar to make it feel like a strange hybrid of 3.11 and 95.
It was surprisingly awesome...but that laptop unfortunately died on me; taking my strange, customized version of Windows with it.
EDIT:
That replacement to the OverDrive processor for the Yeti showed up. This time, it was a success; it may not have MMX, but it's leaped from 75Mhz to 200Mhz with this upgrade without tinkering with jumpers, and my USB ports still function. Now, to max out the RAM...
good luck. personally, i don't think i have the guts to mess with something as advanced as processors. :\
I admit, I was a little uncomfortable messing with processors at first. However, I took a chance upgrading the processor on one of the members of my fleet I cared less about (A very pathetic Dell Optiplex GX110 that I'll be getting rid of soon); replacing it's 866Mhz Pentium 3 with a 1Ghz Pentium 3 pulled from another PC that had a fried motherboard. It worked very well; getting it up to a point that I could just barely play MapleStory on it if I turned the graphics down as low as possible.
The only problem I ever had with a drop-in processor upgrade was with that Pentium MMX OverDrive processor for the Yeti; I had to mess with more jumpers than necessary just to get it to boot, and then came the fact that anytime I plugged anything into it's USB ports (Even a mouse), it'd get a BSOD unlike any I had seen in 15+ years of using Windows. Thankfully, this new processor (A plain 200Mhz Pentium with a special adapter to bypass the 100Mhz limitation of the motherboard; allowing it to run at full speed) works a lot better. Funny how the 3rd party solution works better than the one actually designed by Intel
sometimes, patchy, bootleg fixes are better. -w-
Good news everyone; after an epic bidding war over on eBay, I just won a complete-in-box copy of Windows 2000 for only $30 after shipping. To summerize the experince:
(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/193-feels-good-man-rugrats.jpg)
*slow clap* very nice, man, very nice. -w-
I still don't get the concept of paying for abandonware.... ._____.;
well, i didn't pay for my abandonware....
i UN-ABANDONED IT
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH (http://people.rit.edu/~bss6378/instantCSI/)
Or you can just, well, DDL?
Well, I had this CD-R my uncle burned me years ago, but dammit; it doesn't have the pretty shiny hologram of awesomeness on top, instead having "WINDOS 2K" written exactly like that on the disc.
It's not abandonware, Bells. Microsoft would never do that.
yeees :\
Quote from: Red-Machine on May 08, 2011, 02:22:46 PM
It's not abandonware, Bells. Microsoft would never do that.
If you can't go out to the store and buy it.... it's abandonware.
that makes linux abandonware. >:[
If it's not sold originally either, I wouldn't call it abandonware. ^^;
yeah. there needs to be more stringent criteria.
Abandonware HAS more stringent criteria - at least according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware):
Quote from: WikipediaAbandonware are discontinued products for which no product support is available, or whose copyright ownership may be unclear for various reasons. Abandonware may be computer software or physical devices which are usually computerised in some fashion, such as personal computer games, productivity applications, utility software, or mobile phones.
Definitions of "abandoned" vary; generally it refers to a product that is no longer available for legal purchase, over the age where the product creator feels an obligation to continue to support it, or where Operating Systems or hardware platforms have evolved to such a degree that the creator feels continued support cannot be financially justified. Software companies and manufacturers may change their names, go bankrupt, enter into mergers, or cease to exist for a variety of reasons. When this happens, product rights are usually transferred to another company that may elect not to sell or support products acquired.
In most cases, software classed as abandonware is not in the public domain, as it has never had its original copyright revoked and some company or individual still owns exclusive rights. Therefore, sharing of such software is usually considered copyright infringement, though in practice copyright holders rarely enforce their abandonware copyrights.
TL;DR: Abandonware is any software that's discontinued by the manufacturer but is still under copyright.
I remember on an "abandonware" website I used to be on before OSC they had similar conditions as well:
1) 10 years since the original release,
2) Not available for purchase and
3) Not made by any on the list of companies who specifically had forbidden distributing them.
The 10-year requirement seemed quite superficial, but I guess it was to disallow flopped games released just a couple of years before.
Total Annihilation is a perfect example of it.
Made in '97 by Cavedog, which was bought by Atari after they went bankrupt; Atari wants nothing to do with the game's material (odd as fuck seeing as it was one of the greatest successes of all time when it comes to strategy gaming, and even gaming in general) and aren't doing or selling anything, and the copyrights are in a weird-ass limbo of Nobody Cares but We Own It so Get Off My Lawn.
Seems like it's gonna take a bit until we finally get a proper TA:2.
windows 7. -w-
Newly purchased Windows 95 OSR 2.1 disk, must find box to install it on.
Quote from: stewartsage on May 11, 2011, 02:47:27 PM
Newly purchased Windows 95 OSR 2.1 disk, must find box to install it on.
AB;;LSKFLGGHJKSL
AWESOME.
Quote from: stewartsage on May 11, 2011, 02:47:27 PM
Windows 95 OSR 2.1
I have it, along with the retail upgrade version and OSR 2.5 (The one with USB support). Don't have them running on anything, though
OSR 2.0 had USB support, along with AGP support. They were both added in the USB Patch.
Well, the disc actually said "Windows 95 with USB Support"; without having to download anything extra for it. Of course, it is kind of useless; since most USB drivers are designed for Windows 98 and up.
Ayup, mine has USB support too. Still no computer to put it on though.
Funfact: the OSR versions of Windows 95 are the only versions of 95 I like.
I think OSR 2.1 and 2.5-tan are responsible for this. Silly but true I'm afraid... ^^;;
Same here! 95 OSR 2.1-tan and 2.5-tan are two of my favorite Windows-tans! :D
*wussy-slap-fights stew* MEEEEEHHHHHH, LUUUUUUCKY ;^;
(can i get a burned copy of that eventually?)
I'll try my best, despite my perpetual fail status at burning disk images.
I've never made a disk image from a physical CD (usually it goes the other way around) but I'm sure it can't be that difficult...
Kraus' simple steps to burning a physical disk!
1. Insert disk into the disk tray
2. Close the disk tray
3. Open up my computer
4. Make sure you have Nero or some other burning program
5. Rip the disk image off the physical disk
6. Take disk out of disk tray
7. Place blank CD-R (make sure its somewhat big, you can use a DVD if you really want to) into disk tray
8. Close tray
9. Select the disk image you just ripped and burn it to the blank CD!
10. Stick a label on that bitch (or use a sharpy like a cheap bastard >:D)
You now successfully made an illegal copy of Windows! (or what ever you just burnt)
Amendment I: Use ImgBurn for burning and image-making. It's free and good and simple.
Amendment II: In some cases you might want to use DaemonTools or other mounting applications for ensuring a proper rip was had.
Quote from: NejinOniwa on May 12, 2011, 08:36:31 PM
Amendment I: Use ImgBurn for burning and image-making. It's free and good and simple.
Amendment II: In some cases you might want to use DaemonTools or other mounting applications for ensuring a proper rip was had.
Thank you for these amendments, I forgot completely about these things (I don't rip many CD's or DVD's anymore thanks to the interwebz!).
well my voice hurts from screaming so much today (don't ask)
and my legs hurt from sitting on a hard floor without getting up for 2 whole periods >w>
and right now, i'm in the living room in the comfy spiral chair using the elegant HP AMD64 Windows 7 computer~
The monitor is a HP 2009m. (It's huge)
We practically have everything HP for this computer. HP monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, printer/scanner, etc.
I love HP xD
I've had nothing but trouble with HP over the years, all(most) my dad's (mine as well) clients have HP computers for their business' and they all end up needing to get fixed more often than the Dells I've installed in their work places (most of the Dells last 2 years until someone decides to kill it -.-)! The interior design of the HP computers also makes me mad for everything takes 3 hours to remove or unplug or anything really...
Funny enough I have a client's HP desktop (the same client that gave me the Apple Powerbook G4) upstairs that I'm about to start working on...
Been playing around with this PowerBook G4 and noticed that the battery setting was set to low performance... This laptop is surprisingly better and more enjoyable with the power settings up all the way (while plugged into the wall, if not I will go with minimum power consumption). This also has a copy of Adobe Photoshop CS installed which works really well, the one and only reason I love Apple computers. The. Best. Photoshop. Support. Period.
The loading times and such with photoshop were great even though this laptop is underpowered in the case of RAM (CPU that is clocked at 1 Ghz isn't that bad, my Macintosh G4 downstairs is only clocked at 334 Mhz with 215MB of RAM. THAT IS SLOW.) I've got a copy of Tiger ready for install right now but I'm going to hold off for a little while and see how I'm going to use this laptop more, if I'm going for art than I might just clear off all these junk programs I'm not going to use (imovie, garage band, mobileme, ect.) so I have some more space, maybe just copy all of the Photoshop stuff onto a hard drive, install Tiger, place photoshop back on. There are many options for this laptop right now and it seems that they are all heading towards an Art based computer (I've wanted a Apple Computer for this sole reason but have always been stuck with PC and Windows which never suited me for art due to lack of support in Windows... though it has gotten better over the last few years, I still like OSX more for media while Windows is more for gaming, work, programming, etc.).
I just noticed that I've written quite a lot right here...I shall stop for today...
I've only owned one HP computer, a very underpowered "craptop" at that, but she's run perfectly since the day I got her (2005). She's too slow to do...just about anything, so I usually only use her when traveling and then just to browse the web and write. -w-
Macs can be just as good as Windows computers for work (I'm assuming you mean word processing/office software and whatnot?) and programming (and actually come with programming tools out-of-the-box, unlike Windows). I'm dubious about the entire Macs are better than Windows machines at artstuff thing, but I can vouch that Photoshop CS4 has a very snappy startup and runs smoothly on mine...
HP=Shit
Questions?
Quote from: Bella on May 14, 2011, 12:36:35 AM(and actually come with programming tools out-of-the-box, unlike Windows)
Wrong. Both Vista Enterprise and Ultimate come with a complete Unix Subsystem for programming and app testing.
Quote from: NejinOniwaHP=Shit
Questions?
Indeed, we get a few of them in at work and they are a bitch to work with. Dells, however (at least older ones, not as good anymore) are a pleasure to work with. Especially the ones with tool-less maintenance.
I've had only minimal problems with HP or Compaq over the years; after all, Asagi and Laptop are both Presarios, while Frankenstein Classic is built around the motherboard from an old HP desktop.
Dell, on the other hand, has some nicely built systems that usually run well...except for the OptiPlex line; they're just hastily thrown together pieces of junk. However, should your processor fan die, god help you if you're going to try and replace it; they just had to use a proprietary plug for it, instead of something more industry standard.
Quote from: Red-Machine on May 14, 2011, 06:10:29 AMWrong. Both Vista Enterprise and Ultimate come with a complete Unix Subsystem for programming and app testing.
Well.... that's just it... a user-mode Unix subsystem that runs on top of an NT kernel. And it's not even there so people can develop Unix programs on Windows; it's there so developers can
port Unix programs
to Windows.
The only Windoze I hear good things about (more than bad things) is Toshiba.
do yourselves a favour, and stay away from me when you say things like that. lest i punch your damn teeth out.
speedy's an hp. she runs just fine. a little hot, yes, but every PC has its issues (Dells are cheap, Alienwares are expensive, macs are more expensive and harder to buy parts for, ibm sold out, acer's a piece of shit, etc.)
the newer HPs have failsafes in place to prevent burning out of cards and whatnot. and if you drop it, it locks the hard drive so no data is lost. which is nice, since when my friend dropped hers off her bed at her dorm, the screen was completely destroyed, but the data was fine.
her HP runs Photoshop perfectly. that's just as an example, since i can do this (http://choco-la-te.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3fm29i) and this (http://choco-la-te.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3fm36x) without ever touching an adobe program.
just because you have ONE bad experience with ONE computer, doesn't mean you can judge the whole brand that way. yes, i think dells are cheap, but they're still good laptops. and i hate macs with the passion, but that doesn't mean that they're not also good. not to mention that there is NOTHING that can be done on a mac that can't be done on a PC.
the next person to call mac "the better art computer" is gonna get me screaming up their ass. if you're gonna start brand-bashing, do it somewhere else. >:[
I think in the case of computer brands, it differes by region. For example, both Packard Bell and eMachines have appalling reputations in the US, so much that PB pulled out of the US in the late 90s. However in Europe, PBs are some of the most popular off-the-shelf PCs around. eMachines is also fairly popular over here when you can find them.
With regard to HP, the integrated wireless card in my little bro's HP Touchsmart tablet laptop (for integrated, read built onto the motherboard, not in an easily-replaced mini-PCI slot) died a month after the warranty expired. However, HP were so good about it, that as a gesture of goodwill they extended the warranty for him so he wouldn't have to pay to get the motherboard replaced. HP's customer support is great, I just don't like working on their machines as they are a bitch to take apart and whatnot. IMO, it is not neccessary to remove THE WHOLE FRIGGEN FRONT PANEL in order to take the hard drive out; that's just there to make it harder for the customer to maintain the machine themself.
On the other hand you have Dell machines. Historically they have legendary customer support (I needed the motherboard replaced in my Studio Hybrid and had it back with me up and running in less than a week), but the quality has gone down in recent years. Their machines were designed with tool-less maintenance in mind, so I rarely needed a screwdriver to work on them. Dells are my favourite OEM PCs and they are a pleasure to work on, expecially with regards to driver updates and whatnot. I was perusing their site on friday to find the database for a customer's PC as the service tag wasn't recognised by the archive, and found that they have drivers for PCs as far back as THE FRIGGEN INTEL 8088, MAN! That's like... 25 years old or more. Who else offers THAT kind of service?
No idea but it sure comes in handy when I have to repair my various Dells, all of which I love.
Quote from: Red-Machine on May 15, 2011, 07:15:51 AM
Who else offers THAT kind of service?
I know that if you dig around the dusty, cobweb-covered NEC FTP site, they still offer an archive of drivers, BIOS updates, and documentation for both the Yeti and Minefield...and it goes back even further than that. Although, I'm not sure what the oldest model they still have information on is...
You can download, System 6 from the Apple site, lulz.
http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_6.0.x/
8)
hosting updates for computers made before the internet. Heck yeah.
Quote from: Red-Machine on May 15, 2011, 07:15:51 AM
I think in the case of computer brands, it differes by region. For example, both Packard Bell and eMachines have appalling reputations in the US, so much that PB pulled out of the US in the late 90s. However in Europe, PBs are some of the most popular off-the-shelf PCs around. eMachines is also fairly popular over here when you can find them.
(Emphasis added cause I think he made a good point)
In my experience eMachines are terrible computers - mine had numerous major hardware failures, and the people I know who owned the same (or similar) model reported lots of issues with them too.
I've never actually had experience with Dells... so I shouldn't pass judgement. It is awesome that they have such good customer support though.
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 15, 2011, 01:33:23 AMacer's a piece of shit, etc.
Don't let Nejin hear you say that. >__>;
...
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say I use a Mac because I love it. It was a childhood dream to own one, the sort of thing I never thought would come true, and when I got my iMac I was so insanely happy and that happiness really hasn't worn out in a 18 months that I've owned her. I know for a lot of people getting a new computer is a matter of practicality and it was for me too (my eMachines was dead and my HP was too slow to be used for anything), but it was also a matter of getting to live the dream. Every time somebody questions my motives for using a Mac I feel like they're being insensitive toward what makes me happy, close-minded, and frankly it insults my intelligence by suggesting I could have made a better choice. No, I couldn't have.
It was MY choice and I made the right one for ME. It's like asking the owner of a certain breed of dog "Ew, why would you pick a _____ instead of a golden retriever? Golden retrievers are so much better, they can do everything your ____ can and more!" or walking up to a couple and saying "I really don't know what you see in him/her, you should date MY friend - s/he's so much better!" It's rude, it's hurtful and none of your goddamned business.
In closing, I offer a message for those who can't separate the pride they feel for their favorite system and their compulsive need to bash competing ones:
Don't like Macs? 1) Shut up 2) Don't use them.
Don't like Windows-PCs? 1) Shut up 2) Don't use them.
@Bella: Agreed
Now, if only my iMac G3 wasn't dead...
Quote from: Bella on May 15, 2011, 02:59:28 PM
I've never actually had experience with Dells... so I shouldn't pass judgement. It is awesome that they have such good customer support though.
I have, that and Gateway.
The Gateway had a "motherboard" (logicboard) failure in 5 months.
/fetal position
/points at dead Gateway carcass
maaaake it go awaaaay
Quote from: Red-Machine on May 15, 2011, 07:15:51 AM
On the other hand you have Dell machines. Historically they have legendary customer support (I needed the motherboard replaced in my Studio Hybrid and had it back with me up and running in less than a week), but the quality has gone down in recent years. Their machines were designed with tool-less maintenance in mind, so I rarely needed a screwdriver to work on them.
The support for my Dell's have always been amazing and I'll have to agree that Dell computers after 2006/2007 started to decline in quality but I think its starting to go up again with the redesign to their Inspiron systems. Dell servers are great as well, powerful and reliable but the RAID cards are always a pain for me when reinstalling OS' on them (took me a good 4 days to install Windows 2000 Advanced Server on my Dell PowerEdge 600SC) and some times they can't boot up without a certain amount of RAM (1GB but this is understandable as most servers wouldn't be able to run without 1GB). Acer computers have been good to me in the past few years (My little brother as a Acer Aspire desktop which can run most games, I have a Acer Travelmate laptop and my dad has a new Acer aspire laptop) and Emachines have served me well as well. HP's have only made me a hater due to the case designs, every HP I come in contact with I will need to take apart and its a pain my ass!
Macintosh has always been a safe haven for me, never had a problem and I enjoy using them (My first computer was a Macintosh PowerPC 8100).
My sister has an Acer Aspire One netbook; which she's named Chibi. I like it; in fact, I almost bought one exactly like it before I stumbled onto a Compaq laptop at a random trip to a pawn shop and went with it (That laptop, of course, being Asagi)
Well, all I ever had in ways of laptops is Lambda anyway... (she's an Acer Aspire 8930G, for those not in the know)
But DAMN is she pretty and good at what she does. =w=
And what I've heard about Acer - including recent talk about the Iconia! OwO - makes me even more confident that the brand is a good one indeed. And most importantly - they're CHEAP. Sure, not dirt-cheap, but that just means they're not dirt-crap either - really good computers for very acceptable prices, I'd say.
I've had a few laptops prior to Laptop the Laptop and Asagi. For the hell of it, I may as well give a rundown on what I remember about the 4 that came before:
First laptop: AMS Tech TravelPro 2000
Name: PentiumMMX (My name for it; after the processor it ran with)
Processor: Intel Pentium MMX (200Mhz)
RAM: 32MB
OS: Windows 98SE
I've already gone over it when I showed a picture in the member picture thread (As a late addition to my "Meet the Fleet" post). Still, for a no-name laptop, it ran great, had a case that was solid as a rock, and had an amazing screen; as a whole, it held the title of the best laptop I ever owned until Asagi came around. It may be gone, but it's certainly not forgotten if my username is any indication.
Second laptop: Zenith Data Systems Z-Note 325L
Name: Captain Caveman (Because it's the single oldest laptop I've ever used)
Processor: 386SX (Unknown speed)
RAM: 4MB
OS: MS-DOS 5.0 w\ Windows 3.1
This laptop was left over at my grandma's house by my uncle; who suggested that maybe I could learn something from it. What I did learn was that the 486 my grandma had there was superior for most everything except an obscure shareware FPS I loved (I believe it's title was 3D Maze Wars. It was very primitive even compared to Wolfenstein 3D, but still managed to be fun...although, it's unplayable on anything faster than a 386). This laptop wasn't missed too much when it died; not like when PentiumMMX followed it to the grave shortly after.
Third laptop: eMachines eSlate 400K
Name: Zombie (The only thing that managed to kill it was it's screen snapping off)
Processor: AMD K6 (166Mhz)
RAM: 32MB
OS: Windows 98SE
This one was bought for $10 at a garage sale in early '05, and it ran pretty good although feeling really cheaply made...and then a cup of water was spilled on it while it was running and seemed to have killed it...but, come a week later, it came back to life; acting like nothing had ever happened. Eventually, the plastic around the screen began to crack worse than it already was when I bought it, as I began to migrate my files to the Yeti and began using the laptop mostly for emulation. Eventually, the AC adapter died and the screen snapped off; killing the zombie mere weeks after PentiumMMX died.
Fourth laptop: Micron TransPort
Name: Other Laptop (Since it was the other laptop, when compared to Laptop)
Processor: Intel Pentium (133Mhz)
RAM: 16MB
OS: Windows 95 OSR2 (With some modifications)
This was bought at a garage sale in mid '07 for $10; this thing feeling as solid as PentiumMMX, although it wasn't quite as powerful as Laptop (Which had been given to me around the same time). However, it has some weird problems involving it's battery; sometimes it works great, other times the battery somehow causes the laptop to crash epically (Remove it and run it on AC, and you'll never have a problem out of it). The version of Windows was modified by me with performance and oddity in mind; as I added some unofficial patches to fix issues Microsoft never addressed (The big one being the memory leak in Internet Explorer 5), relabeled it as "Windows 96", and had it setup to use Program Manager instead of Windows Explorer (Giving it a feel of being a hybrid of 95 and 3.11). This laptop, although it still exists, has been retired from the fleet; since it's just too troublesome to use now because of the quirks involving it's battery, as well as it's lack of a CD drive.
Uhh... Just a sec
Alright
I'll have a number one with a Sprite or Seven Up, whichever you have
And an extra eggroll
plz don't forget to give me napkins this time
Hello?
Oh, this thread is... about... things. Other things. O'er tings. OT...
Ehh...
@Pentium4 You name your rigs just like my brother does, i7-kun! hah, rigs. Get it? Like trucks? Yeah, I call computers rigs now. Sounds cool. Doctor Who probably does the same thing
@Bellz Aw man... People just like to joke about hating Macs and stuff. It's like how people make fun of me for buying Admiral Nelson instead of Captain Morgan. It's like Mac vs PC. Apples vs Oranges. Captain Morgan is smooth and refreshing, and the same price as Admiral Nelson, which is also smooth and refreshing. But Admiral Nelson has a hint more vanilla than Morgan does, even though it seems to contain a slightly smaller amount of alcohol compared to the esteemed Captain. Just like Mac and PC. Mac has more vanilla. Than PC.
@svx You so crazy, I think I wanna have yo baby
you guys are all giving me finland face. (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_56xOAbMg6JI/TSWQ4-ZjQKI/AAAAAAAAAyc/_rJmuOwi7Gw/s200/Finland.png) honestly, you guys NEVER get the right to complain about how much i post EVER again. >__<
@bella: i'm not trying to bash macs. i'm just bashing the phrase 'macs are better for art than PCs".
@red: yeah, it varies from region to region. here, most support sucks for dells (from my experience), and my sister's dell's screen is coming apart. poor thing can't even hold up its own head. :\ on the other hand, the support people for my HP were very patient, helpful, and nice. :3
and since when was taking apart a laptop easy? :\
@nej: you have an ASUS, not an ACER. *facepalm*
Macs used to be better for art than PCs (back in the days of Classic), but nowadays, there really isn't a difference, since OSX and Windows can run many of the same graphics programs. Use what ever works best for you!
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 16, 2011, 01:31:35 AMand since when was taking apart a laptop easy? :\
I was talking about desktops, but Dell laptops are easy to work on, too. To change the CPU or graphics card in ChachaGo, all I need to do is remove the keyboard and then I have access!
Quote from: Red-Machine on May 16, 2011, 04:17:36 AM
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 16, 2011, 01:31:35 AMand since when was taking apart a laptop easy? :\
I was talking about desktops, but Dell laptops are easy to work on, too. To change the CPU or graphics card in ChachaGo, all I need to do is remove the keyboard and then I have access!
I love that, I don't need to rip the entire laptop apart to do anything different to it!
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@aurora: that's exactly what i mean. people still have the stigma that "macs are made for art" in their minds. all the pics i put in free cookies a few weeks ago were made on a windows, using linux programs. :\
@Choco: Those stigmas are annoying. I use a Mac for my graphics work (and well, everything) because it's most familiar to me, but I have used Windows without problems for the most part too. *shrugs*
Today I tried out FreeDOS running under Virtual Box.
Lol, I read "FreeDOS" as "FreeBSD" at first glance... I was about to give you some sort of medal. xD;
Aww... :(
Maybe I should try that too?
now if you could run free bsd in virtualbox inside of freeDOS on virtualbox, that'd be pretty cool. 8)
or course, i've never emulated, so i can't really comment. :\
I'm struggling to run FreeDOS, and I barely got past the installation process but I'm stuck. x_x
Today, I tried out Menuet OS!
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/CaptainMiko/menuet_testrun.png)
The 64-bit version didn't install, but the 32-bit version works. It's a neat OS, it's full-featured, has a nice GUI, can play DOOM (really- it's one of the games bundled with it!), and is small enough to boot from a floppy! However, it's still in the beta stage (the 32-bit version more so, since it updates slower) and some programs are more/less stable than others, or maybe because Virtual Box is fickle at times. Who knows?
The paint program is definitely in its alpha stage though.
That is so cool Aurora! I salute you for trying out such a strange OS! : D
*applause* it sounds so cool! ^^
also, I WANT THAT DESKTOP BACKGROUND. O___O
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 17, 2011, 12:34:01 AM
now if you could run free bsd in virtualbox inside of freeDOS on virtualbox, that'd be pretty cool. 8)
(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6876/1336rc.jpg)
BWONG
well, leo decaprio ≠ nerdy enough to emulate.
now, the rock = nerdy enough to emulate.
(dat pic was funny though :3)
That picture reminded me of a crazy setup I had going at one time; with an old Sega Genesis emulator I liked using, running under Windows 95 in an emulator under Windows XP. As cool as it was getting to use that emulator again, there was just too much button lag for it to be plausible for anything other than turn-based RPGs; I learned the hard way when I tried to play Sonic 2 with that setup...
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is it normal for a game made for windows 95 to cause lag on a pc running windows 7?
Depends on the game; there are some that have compatibility issues with newer versions of Windows that can cause it to run slowly. The 1997 remake of Frogger is one I've run into in my experience; the game is unplayable on anything I own except the Yeti, because compatibility issues with versions of Windows newer than 98SE drags the framerate to a crawl regardless of how powerful everything else is.
OSX 10.4 AKA Tiger... I've started to become a Macintosh user...again...it feels...right.
@pentium: that's so weird. you'd think that a low-res game like that would be fine for a newer computer. backwards compatibility my ass. >:\
@kraus: good for you! always better to go with what feels right. that's why i insist on using windows and linux programs in my mac-and-adobe based school. ^^
On my Mac Mini, which is so cute that I just want to pet it, it runs Snow Leopard as well although it's a bit old. It's a good old friend, had this ever since Leopard came out, so it's about to turn 5 soon.
aw. :3
and 5 isn't that old.....tanky is 12....
5 is a tad old for something running everything perfectly up to date. It shows on her statuses too, her harddrive, memory, temperature and cpu all read much...MUCH higher than Mac's.
She'll have a screenshot soon, I'm optimizing her right now, stripping unused architectures and deleting language files.
looking forward to it. :3
eh, i'd say that speedy's the same, but she's not THAT bad (or THAT old, for that matter :\)
Another thing is Snow is a base model, while Mac is the top of the line everything maxed model.
She's definitely useable and still does things fast, just her numbers sit a little high... like, she's using nearly 70% ram right now and I don't have STO open.
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what do you mean, base model? i don't get it. :\
Because of all the talk about Macs, here's a rundown of what my old iMac was like:
The Mac of the fleet: iMac (1st generation Bondi Blue, revision B)
Name: Bulbasaur (The coloring, as well as the bulb shape of the original iMac, reminded me of a Bulbasaur)
Processor: PowerPC G3 (233Mhz)
RAM: 32MB
OS: MacOS 8.6
After wanting to get myself a Mac of some kind for years, I finally had my dream come true when I found an original bondi blue iMac, fully working, for $20 at a garage sale. It ran great, aside from the fact I had to pull the logic board to do a CUDA reset if it gets unplugged or if there's a power outage, due to it needing a new battery. However, after a few months, the monitor began to flicker badly; as I pulled it from active use to avoid further damage while I did research to see if there was some way to fix it. Sadly, while it can be fixed, it's just not worth it with how expensive the stuff I'd need would be; it's cheaper to hunt down an iMac G4 then to fix the G3 I have, which ultimately spelled the end for poor Bulbasaur. Also, I never did get to beat Nanosaur, like I intended on doing...
Like, she has the standard ram, standard HDD, etc, nothing on her is custom, she's just a standard model from '07.
@pentium: aw, how sad. :[ well, maybe someday.
@kriz: ahhh. okie. -w-
@choco: Well, I'm an avid Windows user (due to school and my job being surrounded by it) and I also get to use Linux much of the time (The teacher I TA for [teachers assistant] lets me run a computer that isn't blocked off like the rest of the computers within the school). I grew up with Macintosh computers (None of this "MAC" stuff, Macintosh is what I will always call it), hell, even my dad's first personal Macintosh (Macintosh PowerPC 8100) was named after me and the first system I ever got to use. I have fond memories of that Macintosh, I've got such a strong connection to it that I won't let my dad get rid of it (not that we need to, its retro and reminds us of where my dad's company started off on)! I've talked to my dad about the system a few times though and I've only seen him boot it up once (around 1/2 a year ago) since we got a Windows95 machine in the house. My dad and I decided that the system is much to old to sell off and i have too much of a connection to it so, we are going to gut the system, keep the motherboard and all other parts, put a new motherboard in along with other parts, clean it up a little, put OSX on it, make it a custom "retro" macintosh for me to use while in Collage. I love macintosh, but my work is Windows based so having a macintosh isn't worth it (though I could just load Windows onto one, it would be a waste of money in my eyes) so I'm really glad that my client gave me this PowerBook G4 (which has only a minor blemish on the bottom) and now I have my favorite version of OSX on here!
dude.
torrent mac OSX
gut a system and tweak it to fit
load the os
hackintosh. -w-
also, this doesn't fit here at all, but PEOPLE
COLLEGE = UPPER SCHOOL
COLLAGE = TYPE OF HODGE-PODGE ART
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jeez. puritan. >>;
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 19, 2011, 11:07:44 PM
hackintosh. -w-
Thats what its going to be, I just want it to be fresh (you think I would rip apart a Macintosh just to shove it into a case? bah!)
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 19, 2011, 11:07:44 PM
dude.
torrent mac OSX
I've already thought this out, I have OSX 10.6 on my computer and also burned to a disk already (I could just buy one though, $30 for a copy isn't that bad..). Just because my work is Windows based doesn't mean I don't get to work with Macintosh computers (Though they only need a fresh install most of time and a little extra RAM).
i think it's wise to keep all different computers around. if it weren't for my budget (of free) i'd have different OSes around. it's at least wise to be versed in more than one OS, which makes me aa damn fool. :3
Quote from: Dr. Kraus on May 19, 2011, 06:50:19 PM
OSX 10.4 AKA Tiger... I've started to become a Macintosh user...again...it feels...right.
This is exactly why I use a Mac too... they feel right.... *____*
Incidentally, I don't label myself as a "Mac user" as much as a "Unix user" since that's what OSX is... and that's the only version of Macintosh I've used extensively (and liked consistently). Though the Classic Mac line is undoubtedly fabulous too (I've worked with System 4.2, 8 and 9.2 on real computers and virtualize System 7.5 - no complaints with any of them...)
Exactly the reason I never tried venturing into it. It just feels wrong.
My new netbook as gone from China to Korea and is now wintering in Kazakhstan. I hope it brings me some vodka back.
Quote from: Red-Machine on May 20, 2011, 05:51:46 AM
My new netbook as gone from China to Korea and is now wintering in Kazakhstan. I hope it brings me some vodka back.
I lol'd heartily. Then I thought of this:
Kazakhstan, greatest country in the world
All other countries run by little girls
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium
Other countries have inferior potassium~
MISAKA, for that is what I shall call her, has now left Poland. I imagine she'll fly to Germany and from there fly here.
misaka is going to have teto's voice. :3
let's hope you find a use for the mail song. ^^
I just ordered more RAM for Asagi; making her the very first computer I've maxed out the RAM on (Supporting a maximum of 4GB, according to research I've done). Now, I just need to buy one of those extended batteries...
here's a challenge: trying to teach my grandma how to use the computer and the internet. she has an HP from 2002 running windows XP home.
added layer of challenge: it can't connect to the internet right now. we've figured out the problem, but it's not fixed yet. :\
Good luck on that. I remember trying to teach my grandma how to be able to get her work done easier on the computer; which was a pain in the ass because my uncle taught her the most complicated ways to get things done, and she didn't seem to want to listen to me when I tried to show her an easier way to do the same things.
it's a slow, frustrating process, partly because of the computer glitches, partly because my sister wants to "help" and ends up making things sound extremely confusing. ><;
My grandmother uses Firefox.
=w=
How much RAM does that PC have, anyway? My grandma's desktop at her office only has 256MB for Windows XP Professional to share with a metric ton of pointless junk; it's a wonder that it can boot up in less than 10 minutes with how loaded down it is
you know, i think that's exactly how much my grandmother's has. =__=;
either way, it's too slow to download anything (downloading IE9 was supposed to take 4&½ hours).
[ragemode]
You could try Chome. It's very small and easy to use.
I enjoy chrome but it loves to chew at your Memory and allows Google to get your info and stuff... firefox serves me well enough along with IE9 being pretty nice for IE...
i don't want to complicate things by adding a whole bunch of programs, so i'm gonna stick with IE. i'm probably just gonna have to download it seperately and put it on with a flash drive.
i'd like to see if i could trade in the laptop to the local computer repair store, though, since 256 meg is not going to get them by. :\ not enough for their patience, anyway. :\
if not, i might try to downgrade it to windows 2000. :\
Firefox is the best; although Chrome is nice, SeaMonkey is great but sadly overlooked, and I can't stand Internet Explorer.
@Choco: A downgrade to Windows 2000 would likely be a good thing with how little RAM it has, unless they have the money to let you upgrade the RAM (Which, if you go that route, I know of a site where you can look up the model number to figure out how much it can handle)
if i was to upgrade anything, i'd take it to the computer store to have it upgraded.
i use opera. -w-
I've never used Opera aside from a demo of a Pocket PC version on Mikuru. Even though it was outdated, it was still better than the even more outdated version of Pocket Internet Explorer that was on there
maybe you should give the current version a try....?
I might download it later and try it out; since, aside from Chrome and Internet Explorer, I've never ventured outside of browsers that have heritage with Netscape (Like Firefox)
Anyway, I think I'm going to have to reformat my mom's laptop; the virus scan found nothing wrong, but apparently there is something on there which disabled something, leading to Windows claiming it's a bootleg version. However, I'm not even sure if reinstallation is possible; seeing as they put the restore files on the hard disk instead of giving out a DVD with it (Which makes it very likely that if there's some kind of virus, it could have already infected the restore files), and the product key on the bottom is too faded to read.
I have a feeling when I get off work, I'll be drafted into reformatting it...
Nah, you should be fine. Just invoke the recovery manager when the machine boots. It may say what butyton to press at the BIOS POST screen, otherwise just google the model number and "recovery partition" or words to that effect.
is it running XP? my brother gave me a bootleg copy with the information that if the computer sees it as bootleg, that you should google something along the lines of "windows xp genuine hardware fix" (i can't remember the exact words) and there should be instructions on how to solve the problem, since microsoft had problems in the early days of XP where people with genuine copies were being seen as bootleg (so microsoft made a patch to fix the problem).
Not to brag, but I'm fairly certain I'm the local authority on how2fix windows bootleggan problems...
i'm just relaying what russell told me to do when my sister tried to update her laptop and let the cat out of the bag about the bootleg. :\
Well, my mom just reformatted it herself; thankfully saving me from the trouble when I got off work.
Also, said laptop runs on Windows 7, and is identical to Asagi aside from being mostly silver (Due to being an HP instead of Compaq) and it having a Celeron instead of a Sempron.
sempron? new processor type? interesting. xD
also, speedy appears to be having a good day today, since my wireless card is working. ^^
i should get her an icepack, though, since she feels a little toasty. :[
No, Kari, the Sempron has been around since 2004. It's AMD's equivalent of the Celeron, and overall a pretty shitty CPU.
aaah. okie.
so if i was to personify the Sempron, i'd make it look exactly like the Celeron, only with an ahoge, braids, and a leek. >w<;
Well, the Celeron is a pretty shitty CPU, too. They're both low-budget offerings.
but the celeron is the lesser of two evils? :\
While both are not that great, I personally feel the Sempron is the better one; they tend to feel more powerful. After all, my dad's desktop runs circles around my grandma's PC with a slower processor and less RAM (Well, until I upgraded that part).
Also, while we're on the subject of low-end processors, I remember one of the guys at Game-X-Change, when he heard that I was planning on building a PC (A project that ultimately became 2k-tan the Desktop), tried to talk me out of a Core i7 and instead get a Celeron and overclock it. Obviously, I ignored him
why would you overclock a processor when a faster one is available? you could just overclock the faster one. :\
Cus faster processors are more expensive, Kari. It's more cost-effective to buy a slower one and overclock it.
Of course, I had no intentions on overclocking; in fact, this Core i7 running stock gets near perfect scores on the Windows Experince Index, so overclocking won't make that much of a difference.
@red: i meant a SIMILARLY PRICED one. ><;
hmmmm... I'm probably going to switch out my board for a AM3+ socket and get a AMD Phenom II x6 CPU... That is going to rock!
I almost went with one of those for my desktop, before ultimately going with a Core i7 (Since I was replacing a PC that had a Pentium 4 HT, it only seemed right that the replacement was also capable of HyperThreading)
man, i feel like a noob. >.>;;
Windows? OS X? Hah. I've forsaken even Linux at this point
I have no need for these petty "systems"
"Operating systems," they are sometimes called
"Gladware Containers"
Not anymore
I've overcome all of that nonsense.
I've switched to DOS again.
...and by doing so, I have entered the matrix
I am Batman
in the matrix
from using DOS
Sabayon is treating me well too, FYI. Ever since I switched to it a while back. But don't tell DOS...
Waitan for AM3+ here. =w=
Also OHAIDERE VODKA-KUN, this is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kJRGPgvRQ&feature=related
SOMEONE HAS A NEW THEME SONG NAO
spoiler alert:
It's me,
I have a new theme song!
That's the spoiler
thx Nej-kun :D
No problem. Korpiklaani has enough booze-themed song to make a whole bloody concert out of. =w=
Quote from: PentiumMMX on May 25, 2011, 09:59:39 PMSince I was replacing a PC that had a Pentium 4 HT, it only seemed right that the replacement was also capable of HyperThreading
Why? Multi-cores are far superior to HyperThreading. You should have just saved the cash and bought an i5, same quad-core just with HyperThreading disabled. I doubt you'd notice a difference unless you were rendering stuff.
i think i finally got my custom cursors to stick. <33
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@Red: It was more of a status thing, combined with the fact I'm more familiar with Intel processors after years of using PCs built around them. Although, AMD has won me back over with the Sempron; after a string of terrible experiences with their K-series processors
Phenom II's are nice~ yet my Phenom I is still kicking thus I will not upgrade at the moment!
I've got a Phenom II 965 Black Edition. My current build cost almost a thousand pounds, with more than half going on the graphics card. xP
you better be doing some serious gaming, designing, or video watching with that setup. ><;
Son wieldin 3 GeForce GTX 1,250 GTs 3 GB DDR9 on that rig thur fo sure
Quote from: Krizonar on May 26, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
Son wieldin 3 GeForce GTX 1,250 GTs 3 GB DDR9 on that rig thur fo sure
You speak'n jive, brotha?
(http://www.lolpix.com/_pics/Funny_Pictures_751/Funny_Pictures_75116.jpg)
i am planning on using the windows 8 beta, heard rumors it is coming out soon.
I just upgraded the RAM on Asagi. Now, she's the first member of the fleet to have her RAM maxed out, and more than likely, 2k-tan the Desktop will join her within the next few months...
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 26, 2011, 07:34:28 PM
you better be doing some serious gaming, designing, or video watching with that setup. ><;
I can't speak for the other guys, but my desktop is the Ultimate
Gaming Everything PC; being able to do it all from word processing to gaming, and anything in-between
Quote from: Alex_Reetz on May 26, 2011, 08:54:04 PM
i am planning on using the windows 8 beta, heard rumors it is coming out soon.
The only thing I find particularly interesting is that Windows 8 will supposedly be able to install onto and boot from a thumb drive.... so it's based on Puppy Linux? ~w~
My friend's older brother works at Microsoft during the summer while on break from CMU, worked on graphics coding for Windows 8 last year but is going to be working in Xbox for this year, proably going in for a full job after he finishes his masters after next year.
o___o
windows 8....?
already....?
http://www.osnews.com/story/24454/Windows_8_Beta_Could_Launch_September_2011
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Quote from: Chocofreak13 on May 26, 2011, 07:34:28 PM
you better be doing some serious gaming, designing, or video watching with that setup. ><;
You know it.
Quote from: KrizonarSon wieldin 3 GeForce GTX 1,250 GTs 3 GB DDR9 on that rig thur fo sure
GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (most powerful single-chip graphics card in the world) and 4GB of OCZ DDR3 1333MHz, which I really need to replace as I've had 3 sticks fail on me already and I've only had it since christmas!
@Red: Go with some Kingston HyperX RAM. That's what I'm using in my desktop, and have had no issues at all...then again, Kingston is just a good brand overall (Even their ValueRAM brand is good)
i have a 512mb 4850 i got for 50.00 on ebay..
love that card.
I now be reporting live from my new Dell AT102W keyboard. It clicks, it clacks and the keys make this nice impact feeling on the base of the keyboard which feels oddly satisfying.
But, I still have adware on my PC which is fucking annoying as I've run several different virus scans on it and they have all failed to remove it.
Aye, Kingston makes some nice stuff. Have good memories of flash drives of theres.
As for my graphics card, it may not be the fastest in the world, but it's the fastest integrated card in the world, making it so nothing beats its balance in power conservation and performance. It uses less than 1 volt of power, yet can outperform a 9,600M GT discrete desktop card. Besides, it plays sto @ 60 fps @ 1900x1200, even while in Wine, that's all she needs to do.
The graphics card I have in 2k-tan the Desktop is an AMD Radeon HD 6850, which replaced the HD 4350 I originally had in her predecessor, the TARDIS. Combined with the Core i7 and 8GB of RAM I had in there, I was running Portal 2 with no slowdown at all, when people on GameFAQs where complaining about the game running slowly or crashing a lot.
Feels good, man
Here's some loooooong overdue pics, people!
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/P5270001.jpg
This is the *new* Dell AT102W clicky keyboard I got today. 1998 vintage, black models were extremely rare according to my research. Snapped it up for a bargain £10 including postage when grubby well-used white ones were going for £40+ with other sellers. Completely new, fresh out of the box, never used. Keys feel really tactile and have a satisfying feeling when they impact the board underneath.
EDIT: However, my mum says the clacking annoys her and she's tempted to throw something at me. So I dunno how long this will last...
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/P5270002.jpg
This is ChachaGo, a Dell Inspiron 8100 bought to replace my old legacy rig and because she has the world's first laptop GPU (the nVidia GeForce2 Go).
Specs:
1GHz Intel Pentium III Mobile
512MB PC133 SDRAM
32MB nVidia GeForce2 Go (running Omega Drivers)
40GB Hitachi Travelstar HDD
DVD/CD-RW combo drive
Floppy drive
Dual boot Windows ME & Windows XP Performance Edition
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/P5270003.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/P5270005.jpg
The custom bootscreen I have installed.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/P5270006.jpg
Her namesake on the desktop and a custom nVidia system theme courtesy of Stardock Windows Blinds. She has a surprisingly high 1600x1200 resolution.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/P5270007.jpg
My recently purchased IBM P275 22-inch CRT monitor with a humungous resolution of 2048x1536. Bought for £15 off eBay when I was considering a similar model in much poorer condition for around £60.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/P5270008.jpg
My new legacy rig, Dell-chan (I suck at naming, okay?). Model is a Dimension 4550.
Specs:
3.06GHz HyperThreaded Intel Pentium 4
2GB DDR 333 RAM
128MB nVidia GeForce FX5200 (it sucks, but it's the best AGP card I have)
80GB Hitachi Deskstar 180GXP HDD
Windows XP Home Edition
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/P5270009.jpg
And here is the lovely, shiny new MISAKA, who is an Alienware M11x netbook. Desktop performance in an 11-inch package.
Specs:
1.3GHz Intel Core2 Duo (Overclocked to 1.7GHz)
4GB DDR3 1333MHz
1GB nVidia GeForce GT 335M/Intel GMA 4500MHD Hybrid Graphics System (switchable via a hotkey)
500GB Western Digital Scorpio Black HDD
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/P5270010.jpg
Here is her namesake on the desktop, voiced by the lovely Teto Kasane. She plays games amazingly well for her size (Crysis on high, baby!) and has amazing battery life: 4 hours in gaming mode and over 8 hours in eco mode. Perfect for gaming on the go!
I want the casual romance club cd you got their.
@Red: Dell-chan looks like a bigger and meaner version of my previous main desktop, the TARDIS (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/TARDIS.jpg), but with similar specs (It had a 2.8Ghz Pentium 4 HT, but also had a PCI Express port for it's graphics card).
Which, I may as well share some pics of my fleet while I'm here:
- 2k-tan the Desktop (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/GEDC0018.jpg) (The first custom PC I build using all-new parts, as the successor to the TARDIS. Also, she does run Windows 2000 in an emulator, which I call "2k-on-2k Mode")
- The Yeti (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/GEDC0004.jpg) (The legacy desktop; which I grew up playing old DOS games on. I upgraded it's old 75Mhz Pentium to a 200Mhz one; just for more power)
- Frankenstein Classic (AKA Frankenstine V1) (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/GEDC0005.jpg) (My original custom PC; built using assorted spare parts my great uncle gave me as well as stuff from Crappy after it was retired)
- Frankenstine V3 (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/GEDC0022.jpg) (The current incarnation of Frankenstein; being built around an older Dell and a majority of the components from V2)
- Minefield (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/GEDC0007.jpg) (The 486SX I do experiments with; usually of the "will it run?" sort)
- Asagi (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/GEDC0026.jpg) (My main laptop; which I just maxed out the RAM on. She's awesome)
- Laptop the Laptop (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/GEDC0028.jpg) (The creatively-named laptop that, although held together with duct tape, having a row of dead pixels on its screen, and having a broken left mouse button, still works well; outliving my sister's much newer Dell laptop that was physically in better shape)
- Mikuru (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/GEDC0024.jpg) (The Pocket PC; who really needs a new battery...)
>Post pictures of awesome new gaming laptop and old computers
>Request for cd
mfw:
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q364/tcmapler/That_is_great.png)
@ Pentium: Yup, those old Dimension cases were around for a looooong time.
hmm, i need to get shitty back from my brother. after i have a complete flock, then i'd be comfortable taking pics.
also, if anyone needs help naming computers, i love doing that. ^^
@alex: i have a copy of that, and i got it for free. xD
Quote from: Dr. Kraus on May 27, 2011, 06:35:25 PM
>Post pictures of awesome new gaming laptop and old computers
>Request for cd
mfw:
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q364/tcmapler/That_is_great.png)
new computer? no that is pretty mid tier. alienwares are overly hyped and for people who cant build there own setup....LIKE A MAN!
http://imageshack.us/g/121/img0001fkh.jpg/ my new setup
You're talking to the guy who spent £1,000 building a high-end gaming PC from scratch. Your argument is irrelevant.
Also, I'd like to meet the guy/gal who can build their own gaming netbook from scratch.
if i knew laptops and i had the money, i'd try. :\
laptops are not gaming machines, they will end up frying like omelet. laptops as gaming computers is just silly.
also you mentioned netbook gaming computer?
what are you? 12?
why is my generation so focuses on portability when it comes to gaming computers? i can understand a portable HPTC case for a desktop, but a gaming netbook? what a waste.
LONG LIVE THE LATE 90s 40 pound computer cases!
/trollrant
troll indeed. speedy's a 2007-8, and she's the nicest computer in the house (and she's a laptop).
I admit, I almost bought a high-end laptop for gaming; but, then I found Asagi sitting at a local pawn shop next to an much older and much more expensive Viao that ran on Windows ME...
speedy was freee~ ^^ (sorry, i just love that fact. ^^; )
the next newest computer in the house is the "family" computer downstairs, but it runs like shit, so if we're talking in terms of reliability then i'd have to go with my sister's Dell Inspiron (2005). it can barely hold up its own head, but it gets the job done :3
funny, i got a lot of my shit for free from dumpster diving:
Core2extreme 3.2ghz (Quad) (found is computer that was thrown away at my locale news station.)
JVC 6032v Stereo receiver( from my dad.)
2tb HDDs(from 'broken' External hard drives.)
Cerwin Vegas DX-9( refoamed, cost me 20.00)
Sony 100w speakers( from dad)
Dreamcast(in a back ally dumpster.)
Windows me Laptop(found abandoned in a trash can on a stormy night.)
32 inch HDTV(tv doesnt work, but hdmi does.)
Zune(replaced battery, cost me 20.00)
Sony MDR-7506 (found is lost and found.)
@Red: I really like Misaka's glowy keyboard. owo But that 1998 Dell keyboard isn't THAT vintage... now THIS is a vintage keyboard!
(http://www.paulyasi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Space-Cadet_keyboard-2m.jpg)
*w*
i had a metel keyboard from the late 70s
sold for 40.00
i wish i could of modded it to work on my new computer....now i am stuck with my European g15
(http://www.mcamafia.de/mycomp/images/mouse1.jpg)
this is the oldest computer part i have.
The oldest part I have would probably be a keyboard that looks like it was probably built in the mid '80s; it's very bulky and the keys make a satisfying click sound when pressed. Using it with MS-DOS really gives you a vintage experience like no other
i'd like to hook my old mouse up to timmy, when he's completed. but first, i need to find a copy of Windows 95. :\
piracy.
harder than you think. :\
Not really.
for you, maybe. i've never burned an os disk. and i only got the ability to torrent about 3 months ago. :\
how old are you?
mentally? older than you.
my connection sucks. i have to use a proxy server to torrent, and even that's tentative.
can we move on?
i'm still using windows 7. and making custom themepacks for it has become a hobby. :3
and i just realized the custom cursors stuck. ^^ whee.
can you make a backup that will save my key?
also, why you use proxy?
what do you mean?
and i use a proxy because my internet connection at home doesn't allow torrents.
or most flash games. :\
(it went on like that for 5 years, with no one being able to tell me why. :\ )
Quote from: Alex_Reetz on May 27, 2011, 08:08:40 PM
laptops are not gaming machines, they will end up frying like omelet. laptops as gaming computers is just silly.
Heat dissipation problems are so 80's.
Quote from: Alex_Reetzlaptops are not gaming machines.
LAMBDA disagrees. Strongly. She would like a word with you.
Quote from: Alex_Reetz on May 27, 2011, 08:08:40 PM
laptops are not gaming machines, they will end up frying like omelet. laptops as gaming computers is just silly.
also you mentioned netbook gaming computer?
what are you? 12?
why is my generation so focuses on portability when it comes to gaming computers? i can understand a portable HPTC case for a desktop, but a gaming netbook? what a waste.
LONG LIVE THE LATE 90s 40 pound computer cases!
/trollrant
My old Packard Bell would also disagree with you. And I didn't buy MISAKA just for gaming, I bought her for the portability mainly. I always wanted a netbook but felt they were too underpowered for my tastes. Plus she can shit all over my old PB and our family "gaming" PC (which was bought in '07). When I buy laptops, I insist on dedicated graphics (or at least decent nVidia integrated) as I like to have the option to game on it if I ever felt like it. MISAKA also runs pretty cool, so your argument there is invalid, too.
Alienware laptops are really nice and have great customer support so If Red's MISAKA died I'm sure Dell would help 'em out.
Well, I just did something completely stupid this morning:
As I was getting ready to reformat the hard drive on a desktop I'm going to be selling off, I accidentally killed my flash drive in the process after hitting the wrong button. Well, there goes all the files I just backed up from it, as well as some other small things I hadn't had a chance to move to my 1TB external HDD...
Which, for the curious, a rundown of the specs on the desktop I'm attempting to sell:
Model: Dell Optiplex GX110
Processor: Intel Pentium 3 (1Ghz)
RAM: 256MB
Graphics: Intel on-board video
OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2)
Quote from: PentiumMMX on May 28, 2011, 12:01:07 PM
Model: Dell Optiplex GX110
Processor: Intel Pentium 3 (1Ghz)
RAM: 256MB
Graphics: Intel on-board video
OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2)
Sucks that you killed the flash drive, that is pretty hard to do!
Selling a system this old is going to be hard, maybe if its for an older person whom has never owned a computer before and just needs a basic one to keep in contact with the world but you are not going to be selling this for a high price...
Serious question. How do you kill a flash drive and if you do, can't you just reformat it?
I killed the flash drive by accidentally deleting the FAT when preparing the hard disks for reformatting; now Windows just sees it as being like a floppy drive with no disk inserted (Which, aside from some PC games I could redownload, it took my Xbox 360 save files with it). It could probably be saved with FDISK, although I'm considering replacing it with one that's bigger; I can get one twice as big for roughly the same price
As for that desktop I'm selling, I have a feeling that I'd be lucky to even get $10 out of it; which is half of what I originally paid for it. I originally bought it for $20 back in mid '08, with the intention on it being the base for the 3rd incarnation of Frankenstein...but it failed all my usual benchmarks, so it ended up becoming a spare desktop named Yuki-chan (After a character I liked from Lucky Star), which found it's way to being my primary desktop before I bought TARDIS.
Ah, I see, I'm pretty sure if I was somehow there, I could reformat it good as new with Disk Utility.
Step 1 to save the drive: DL Puppy linux.
2: Burn to cd. Boot.
3: Insert drive.
4: Start gparted.
5: Format in whatever format you wish it.
6: ???
7: GREAT SUCCESS
I just got it working again; my files are long gone, of course, but I can at least use it again
if you upgraded the ram you might be able to get more. like, to a gig or something. doesn't seem TOO expensive....
That Optiplex can only handle 512MB of RAM, and the money it costs for that much SDRAM is better spent going into Frankenstein
eh, alright. if you save it for a few years you might be able to get more for it.....
If it doesn't sell, I could try hanging onto it longer...although Optiplexes are plentiful around here, so there likely wouldn't be much demand for one
Well, Dell may SAY that it only supports 512MB. My Dimension 4550 only officially supports 1GB, but I'm running 2.
If it wasn't for the fact I don't feel it's worth putting too much money into, I'd consider seeing if I could push it further with more RAM
yeah, it's probably not worth it to sink money into it if you're not going to turn a profit.
you could sell it for parts....
Yeah, if all else fails I could post a listing on craigslist selling it for parts or something
it would suck if it comes down to that, but good luck with it.
i'd feel bad if i did this myself, since i consider it to be like the torturous murder of a computer, but it'd be nice to know how to extract the gold from computer parts. :\
I used to be really upset by people scrapping older comps., but now I don't really care what happens to post-mid-1990s, non-Apple-or-IBM computers, as long as they aren't rare or whatever. : /
Of course that's only desktop computers, servers, mainframes, etc. I'd like to see preserved. -w-
I'm still upset by people throwing away Apples, even if they don't work.
Makes me think of Megatron in the 80's TF movie. "but I stiiiiiil function!"
I try to avoid parting out something that still works unless, like Crappy, it deserved it; that desktop was so poorly assembled with no care put into any part of it, that it felt more like a mercy kill to tear it down for parts to save Frankenstein Classic.
i don't feel bad about recycling computers, as that's recycling. but COMPLETELY RIPPING THE CHIPS APART FOR THE GOLD makes me feel bad. ;^;
Now that I'm against, unless it's honestly beyond saving; with broken pins and such.
yeah......
or if you were DESPERATE for money. broken computer? free gold! ^^
EDIT: so i found out yesterday that my cousin wants to become an IT.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU------
I just found out that the password I plan to use on MISAKA would take your average hacker 16.50 trillion centuries to crack.
Also, it would take the US military with several thousand supercomputers 1.65 hundred centuries to crack it.
I have no clue what that is in normal years...
https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm
Mine is slightly stronger (16.80 trillion centuries), at least, the one I use for here and other places. My computer doesn't have a password but it does ask you to put the password in upon login. Meaning it's a troll. You'll never get the password right if you try to guess it, because there isn't one.
The overkill password I used to use is "4.35 hundred thousand trillion trillion trillion trillion centuries" on the "one hundred trillion guesses per second" one.
My account password would take less than a week to crack under normal circumstances.
My admin's password would take over 30 centuries to crack under normal circumstances.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/microsoft-unveils-windows-8-tablet-prototypes/
If this is what Windows 8 will be like when it finally comes up, I'm never going to use it.
Online Attack Scenario:
(Assuming one thousand guesses per second) 14.42 billion centuries
Offline Fast Attack Scenario:
(Assuming one hundred billion guesses per second) 1.44 hundred centuries
Massive Cracking Array Scenario:
(Assuming one hundred trillion guesses per second) 14.42 years
for my old password. i have a new one, but i'm too paranoid to type it into that thing.
@red: windows 8 sucks. forever. i'm wondering what her -tan will look like. :\
also, since everyone seems to have ignored it, my cousin, the one i always considered the least brainy out of all of them, the one who considers a size 2 "fat", is thinking of becoming an IT.
i pray to whatever god or goddess will listen that she changes her mind. ><;;;
Dayum Windows 8, YOU UGLY. >__>
@Kari: You mean she wants to study information technology? Or does she wanna work in the IT industry/be a computer repairperson/etc?
MFW Windows 8
(http://myfacewhen.com/images/101.jpg)
@bella: i'm not sure. but as she told me her only motivation was "to be rich", i REEEEEEEEALY think she's choosing the wrong field.
plus, i've always been the nerdy one in the family, so when the club girl swoops in to take my thing, i get a little touchy. >:\
and yeah, windows 8 IS ugly. :\
If that's what it's really going to look like, I'd take Chicago 58s (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Desktops/Winchicagodesktop.png) over Windows 8 any day
My standard online passwords would take 3300, 4300 and 437000 years for the low-grade attack to break.
My high-security password would take 2590000000000 years for that level to break, and 259 years for the highest level.
Feelsquitegoodman.
Then again, my computer password is BIOMETRIC IMPRINT, so yeah... fingerprintan ftw. =w=
i feel unsafe since i punched my current password in there.... ;^; (it's actually worse than my old one, lol.)
also, since it belongs here, there appears to be a shiny new virus afoot:
http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/01/apple-issues-fix-to-combat-virus/
http://blog.intego.com/2011/05/02/intego-security-memo-macdefender-fake-antivirus/
NO MATTER WHAT OS YOU USE OR PREFER, be careful. even if you don't think you need security software, it's good to have it, just in case. (like the boyscouts say, always be prepared. :3)
I don't have a modern Mac yet, but should I still panic anyway?
I wouldn't say panic. Just be vigilant!
as long as you have capable antivirus software, you should be fine. :3
Yeah; I have what I feel is a good antivirus, so combined with being as careful as I usually am I should be fine.
About the only time a virus (Or in this case, worm) had me panic was with Conficker a few years back. My dad's desktop got infected, which lead to the first (and to date, only) use of what I call "Paranoia Mode"; I unplugged Frankenstein from the home network to protect it, since I didn't have an antivirus on there and really didn't want to reinstall Windows 2000 and download a decade of patches should something happen.
Quote from: PentiumMMX on June 02, 2011, 07:22:56 PM
I don't have a modern Mac yet, but should I still panic anyway?
No.
There are no "viruses" for Macs, but there are some maleware that pop up every half decade or so (that require you to give it ((
it being, that thing OSX says is actually a program)) your admin password or it can't do anything, EVEN if you download it).
It's about as hard to get malware on a Mac as it is to smash an XBOX with a sledgehammer when your TV says hitting it with a sledgehammer may damage it. It just ain't gonna do it by itself, you gotta do it and if you do, then who's the smart one?
Good point. After all, common sense is the best protection (Something my sister's father-in-law lacks, after I learned how his laptop got so badly infected right after he got it)
Quite. Only problem I have is registry faults, and I employ a cleaner for that purpose.
That's the main point, on OSX if you use common sense, it's impossible for you to get hurt.
It could sit in your downloads folder for years after you download it and nothing will happen, even maleware has no power over Macs unless you, the admin, give it the power to do what it wants. And even then... LOL CMD+DEL BRO
Also, you can't argue that MacOS isn't nice...even if the newest version of it I've used is 8.6
Quote from: Krizonar on June 02, 2011, 08:17:53 PM
That's the main point, on OSX if you use common sense, it's impossible for you to get hurt.
It could sit in your downloads folder for years after you download it and nothing will happen, even maleware has no power over Macs unless you, the admin, give it the power to do what it wants. And even then... LOL CMD+DEL BRO
This this this this this this.
I do not use antivirus and I will not use antivirus, because I will not bog down my system because of the millions-to-one odds that it will get a virus.
My security plan is the one followed by Unix users since time immemorial:
1)
I use a non-admin account. I have a separate admin account and only use it when I have to.
2) I don't download sketchy shit.
3) I don't INSTALL sketchy shit.
4) I use common-sense security precautions when using Firefox -
Adblock and Noscript are installed, meaning I'm not going to pick up any browser-based virii.
TL; DR: Being scared of viruses on Macs is like being afraid of planes because of terrorism. YES, Macs can be susceptible to malware. YES, planes can be the target of attack. But the chances of owning a Mac that contracts a malware, or being in a plane that gets attacked are
so. astronomically. low. that it shouldn't even be a worry. In both cases, you should be more wary of mechanical failures than anything else. -__-
Quote from: Bella on June 02, 2011, 09:25:10 PM
TL; DR: Being scared of viruses on Macs is like being afraid of planes because of terrorism.
ehhhh, being scared of malware (there are NO VIRUSES) on a Mac is more akin to being afraid of planes because of your own ability to jump out the emergency door without a parachute.
I only have antivirus on Asagi and 2k-tan just to get Windows to shut up about how I absolutely need it. On everything else, I don't waste the resources; after all, the Yeti took off like a rocket once I dropped the ancient version of Norton my mom had on there, and was doing things that Crappy would choke on regardless of it having 4 times as much RAM and a processor roughly twice as fast.
Which, since I never really said much about it, here's a rundown of what Crappy was like when it still existed:
The Replacement PC: Custom
Name: Crappy (It was a hastily thrown together piece of shit)
Processor: AMD-K6 (166Mhz)
RAM: 128MB
OS: Windows 98SE
After the botched 56K modem upgrade for the Yeti, instead of getting in contact of our old tech guy (Who did tech support for the computers at the family hardware store when it was still open), we instead went to this local guy everybody said was really good. Pretty much, he took one look at the Yeti and said we need to trash it because it's beyond saving, and we should buy a refurbished PC from him for $100; which, being in a bind because of how heavily my mom relied in the internet for the job she had at the time, we jumped on it. When we came the next day to pick it up, I saw this thing in the most hideous case possible (Which I saw in pieces on a shelf the day before), with a barely functional keyboard, an ancient, dieing monitor, and a mouse that was nicer than everything else. We brought it home and found it to be the most egregious piece of shit ever; after I was given permission to address the driver conflicts, I managed to at least get it to a point it was bearable to use, but it still was terrible.
This PC is pretty much was made me hate AMD processors and resulted in an initial unjust hatred of Windows 98; it was slow as hell, choked up on things the Yeti could do with ease, and had constant BSODs. It was eventually replaced with what's now known as Frankenstein Classic; a desktop built in the much the same way, but with a lot more love put into it (Also it had nearly twice as much RAM and a processor that was much more powerful). Crappy met it's end in '06; when I used it as a donor for parts to save Frankenstein, which had become a doorstop after it's hard drive gave out (At the very end, that hard drive was not a pretty sight...especially if you though of the 3 versions of Windows it held at the end as their OS-tan counterparts)
Hm, I've actually never even seen a computer with an AMD processor. Is there really much of a difference? I've heard that their processors are cheap, lower speed and power alternatives to Intel, but that's just what I've heard.
well, I am using:
Windows 7 Ultimate(On my Gaming Desktop)
Ubuntu(School Laptop)
Windows ME(Dos Hentai game laptop.)
@Kriz: These days, AMD is a nice alternative to those who want to save a little money and still have a great PC...although, circa '03, they had what where widely considered the best processors on the market (The Athlon outperformed the Pentium 4 at most everything while running much cooler, and the fact that it was cheaper sweetened the deal).
It really depends,
AMD RANA and all the tricores are really unstable, i would go with a Deneb, the quad core
series is good for the price, but it lacks cache.
i would go with a used intel core 2 duo. nice cache, multipliers, and dependable.
i got a core2quad 2.8ghz on ebay for 40.00, and it can overclock to 3.40ghz, 3.90ghz on my watercooling.
Sadly to say, I've heard terrible things about the Pentium 4, especially when compared to PPC. Just I've heard very little about AMD other than "lol they're kinda cheap"
And yeah, I can imagine a tri-core being unstable.
Yup, C2D will always be my favorite.
Pentium 4?
i am talking about the core 2 series.
lern 2 read.
Half of my post was at Pentium...talking about Pentiums, the rest was to you.
So my post was to both of you in general.
To be completely honest, the Pentium 4 was not that great; as exciting as it was for me to have a PC with a Pentium 4 HT that I dreamed of when I bought the TARDIS, it was annoying how it ran hot enough to make my room feel like an oven. Factor in that summer being rough because of my mom refusing to turn on the air conditioner, and it lead up to that PC's fan dieing; which paved the way for 2k-tan, which I took special precautions when building to make sure she could handle the heat.
Also, I have no experience with Core series processors prior to the Sandy Bridge i7, so I can't say much about them
I've also heard rumors that the Pentium III is actually better than the Pentium IV, could an expert on Pentiums such as yourself confirm or deny that?
They are good processors, call em old all you want but...
I had a choice of getting this computer (C2D) or an iMac (i7). (this may have been influenced by my more liking of laptops also, however)
I would have to agree with that fact; the 4 may have had raw clock speed on it's side, but the 3 was superior in everything else (The fact that Intel retired the NetBurst core (What the Pentium 4 used) in favor of bringing back the P6 core (What the Pentium 3 uses) and expanding on it should say enough right there)
I like how you're like me, except, me in the PC world.
Anyway, I'm currently using a small cute box setup for when Katarina comes over called a Mac Mini that has lots of 2s.
2 GHZ
2 GB ram
120 GB HD
lolz
windows me laptop specs:
P3 800mhz
512mb ram
4gb Hard Drive
Presario 1200
Quote from: Krizonar on June 02, 2011, 08:08:17 PMthat require you to give it ((it being, that thing OSX says is actually a program)) your admin password or it can't do anything, EVEN if you download it
Mac Defender is a drive-by download (i.e. the user has no choice in the matter, it downloads all by itself on an infected website). The original version of it required the user to enter their admin password, and you'd be surprised how many Mac users just do it without thinking as a matter of course. The latest versions bypass the admin password prompt alltogether, installing themselves without ANY user interaction at all.
So regardless of how savvy you are and how you check what you download and never enter your admin password unless you're sure, you'd still get nailed by it if you ever came across an infected website. There's no way around it. Apple's TRIED to patch it out, but within hours of the new update it was installing itself on people's machines again. It's a game of cat & mouse at it's finest.
@ Pentium: Yes, at the same clock speeds, a Pentium III would be faster than a Pentium 4. That Core i7 you're using right now is nothing more than an enhanced, multi-core Pentium M, which was nothing more than a streamlined Pentium III for laptops. I'd like to see what an overclocked, liquid hydrogen-cooled PIII could do in today's market. :3
EDIT: According to Windows Weekly, the guy heading up the Windows team has a "don't demo it until it's ready" policy, which means that this IS the Windows 8 you will buy in stores. I've also seen a lot of people say things like "Microsoft's FINALLY showing off their entry into the tablet market." They're forgetting, MICROSOFT INVENTED THE TABLET, DAMMIT! There was even a tablet version of 3.1 for chrissake! They own the party, so they can take as long as they damn well like to show up to it. :3
Here's the episode in question in case anyone's interested:
http://twit.cachefly.net/video/ww/ww0211/ww0211_h264b_864x480_500.mp4
Quote from: Red-Machine on June 03, 2011, 04:03:46 AM
The latest versions bypass the admin password prompt alltogether, installing themselves without ANY user interaction at all.
And even this 'dangerous' version makes you have to have "open 'safe' files automatically upon download" checked. If you don't, it's dead already and you'll notice a weird file in your downloads whenever you check it.
But wait! Then, even if you have that checked and it does open up by itself, while you don't have to put in your password for the type of installation it uses, a window opens up and
you have to click 'continue' to install something.
I'd call that user interaction.
I'd also like to add that even though we seem to argue a lot, you seem pretty respectful and I thank you for that. I've definitely had arguments similar to this one where the other person really didn't keep a cool head.
Quote from: Krizonar on June 03, 2011, 05:34:47 AMAnd even this 'dangerous' version makes you have to have "open 'safe' files automatically upon download" checked. If you don't, it's dead already and you'll notice a weird file in your downloads whenever you check it.
But wait! Then, even if you have that checked and it does open up by itself, while you don't have to put in your password for the type of installation it uses, a window opens up and you have to click 'continue' to install something.
I'd call that user interaction.
I'd also like to add that even though we seem to argue a lot, you seem pretty respectful and I thank you for that. I've definitely had arguments similar to this one where the other person really didn't keep a cool head.
You actually have to go in and un-check the "Open safe files...", and I believe that it installs silently now. The user has no clue until it's installed.
I always try to keep things civil, unless the other person goes on a rant at me...
I'll concede that point, I'm assuming they'll make it un-checked by default or remove it entirely in the next Safari, as it's pretty pointless.
And no, from what I've read, it doesn't install silently, unless you click that continue, however, if you do, it then it uses that permission from that continue to install another program silently. Neither of the programs are actually dangerous... though, they just nag at you until you comply/delete them.
Another interesting tidbit is PPC Macs are completely immune to it, it can't even install with their permission.
I knew there was a reason I loved PPC more...
I always wondered why they stopped using PowerPC processors in Macs; switching to Intel didn't seem to have much of an effect on pricing from what I could see
TL;DR.
*rolls eyes* well EXCUUUUSE ME, princess. sooo-ree for trying to tell you to be cautious (which should be an attitude you take with computers and beyond). i love you all, but part of me hopes you get a virus, so you'll get knocked off your high horse. you're no better than someone else just because you use a mac and someone else uses a PC. ><;
.....now that i've gotten the bitchy out, still using windows 7, sister uses xp, grandparents use xp.
only mac i've ever bought (only computer, for that matter) is my ipod. :\
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on June 03, 2011, 01:36:00 PMyou're no better than someone else just because you use a mac and someone else uses a PC. ><;
No. No OS makes you a "better" person. Unless that OS is God or charity or goodwill toward all mankind or something, lol.
However, I do believe my computer is *better than most*. Not because it is a Mac, but because it runs Unix. (I would take the same stance if I used Solaris, GNU/Linux, OpenBSD, so on and so forth).
(http://slacksite.com/images/humour/dilbert-unix.gif)
(This is my next signature, lol)
Quote from: Bella on June 03, 2011, 03:14:23 PM
(http://slacksite.com/images/humour/dilbert-unix.gif)
(This is my next signature, lol)
If you do, I will kill it with fire.
@Pentium: One of the reasons the Power PC stopped being used in Macs because Apple was never able to make a Powerbook G5 because no G5 chip could run cool enough in a laptop, and the last Power Mac G5 model had to be water-cooled. At that point, continuing the Power PC was unsustainable.
It's really too bad because I like the PPC Macs. :(
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on June 03, 2011, 01:36:00 PM
i love you all, but part of me hopes you get a virus, so you'll get knocked off your high horse.
If stating facts puts me on a high horse, don't ever talk about video game console wars or the PPC architecture, that'll put me on Nasa's new Constellation. Oh and french fries, Wendy's commercials make me gag, those fries are NOT good!
@Aurora: So that's why they didn't use the G5 for very long...
@Choco: If that was partially directed toward me, than I'd rather Asagi not get a virus; since I have no restore discs for her, getting a really bad virus or worm would be the equivalent of her being shot through the heart and left to die. If it wasn't, ignore this segment
Quote from: PentiumMMX on June 03, 2011, 04:34:47 PM
@Aurora: So that's why they didn't use the G5 for very long...
Another thing is the supply of G5's wasn't being made as fast as they wanted, the supply and R&D was slowing down to a point where they weren't comfortable. They knew it was getting to a point where they wouldn't develop a cooler one until it was too late and the rest of the market had caught up or passed them. (the G5 back in the day was the omgwtfbbq computer).
PPC is still incredibly good though, even if Apple was going to take a major blow from slow development and small shipping numbers.
the Playstation 3, Wii and the Xbox 360 all use PPC CPUs, for example.
@aurora: that's sad. hopefully over time they'll figure out a way to use it effectively. :\
@pentium: you're not really in the flamewar, so it's not at you. :[
(and if asagi ever crashed, i'd make a copy of my windows 7 install disk for ya xD)
@kriz: that's what makes a topic like this dangerous; the SUPREME loyalty to a certain computer. does having a mac make you better than me? no. is a mac better than a windows? in the end, no, because they're both just operating systems. a windows can do everything a mac can, and a linux can too. sure, it may involve more things, but in the end they can all write things, make pictures, organize and play music, etc. and we just need to accept that while you and i may not use the same OS, we're equals.
and if you think differently than that, then i don't think we can be friends. :[
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on June 03, 2011, 04:43:02 PM
and if you think differently than that, then i don't think we can be friends. :[
I don't see anything that's wrong in your post at all, so I'm pretty sure I accept that.
I also don't see how anything like that would make me a better
person.
@Choco: That's good to know; after all, Asagi is like the Weighted Companion Cube, if the Companion Cube where a laptop.
As for the whole "blind loyalty" thing that's come up in this topic, I was like that over Windows and Nintendo when I was younger. However, a combination of MacOS 7.5 and a Sega Genesis got me to snap out of it and be more accepting.
This is getting too serious business, peoples!
Anybody who thinks a certain OS makes you a better person needs to be lobotomized. I'll provide the drill!
@Kari: Kriz said NOTHING that suggests he thinks this way. NOTHING. He's been perfectly reasonable the whole time, as has Red (although I agree with Kriz over Red on the topic of Macs getting malware, because he's a long time Mac user and knows more on the subject). I love you but you shouldn't take things so personally .... and not put words in other people's mouths. >__<;
@aurora: indeed.
@pentium: i try to keep an open mind. however, i've used macs and they're not to my taste. :\
@kriz: i don't like SUPER-LOYALTY to any one thing (except friends and family, since that's important). so hearing people spout off "MAC IS BEST" or "WINDOWS IS BEST" pisses me off to some degree. the more vocal you are about it, the less i like you. ><;;
@bella: i wasn't trying to. and i don't appriciate the assumption. >:[
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on June 03, 2011, 04:55:06 PM
This is getting too serious business, peoples!
^
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The only loyalty I have is to Unix, and that's just because it:
1) Has a 50+ year history spanning back to MIT (via CTSS and Multics) and Bell Labs (UNIX's birthplace)
2) Has outlived like 90% of other OSes and KILLED OFF most of its competition
3) It is perhaps the most flexible OS ever made, meaning it can be continually modified/improved
4) It's been ported to every architecture known to man, can be made to run on just about anything and perform every task
5) It's the only system that can be found running in embedded systems, cell phones, home computers, supercomputers, servers, mainframes, micros, minis, it's found in the control systems of aircraft, spacecraft, appliances, and in nearly every home, business, academic and government sector and has been for the last 40 years
My appriciation of Unix is neither irrational nor blind. Unix has weak points. Sometimes I cannot decide if I love or hate Unix. But it is, without doubt, the most successful OS to ever be created and it makes me proud to use it.
What's that? OS/Computer preferences is srs bzns to a bunch of hardcore OS historians/computer nerds?
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I'm trying not to be serious business, but part of me hates Unix because it killed off so much of its competition. T_T
My smartphone is a Wintel, and I loves it. I only wish I could install Windows Mobile 6 on it, tho...
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on June 03, 2011, 05:27:29 PM
I'm trying not to be serious business, but part of me hates Unix because it killed off so much of its competition. T_T
Surprisingly, I'm impartial to UNIX as a whole. I'm the flip-side of the coin from Bellz0rz.
I've never used Unix (Unless that's what the computer catalog at the library used to run on back in the mid '90s), but I do think it's cool how long it's been around and how it's still actively used and developed.
wonder if my cell phone runs unix.....
nah, probably not BADASS enough for that. :\
Re: Unix killing off all its competition, I think it's a testament to the design strengths of the system. (Or its artfully arranged weaknesses, since Unix WASN'T particularly well-designed compared to the other OSes of its time.) It's also worth remembering that, initially, there was NO corporation backing Unix - within its first few years of life, it was able to spread to thousands of sites all around the world simply by word-of-mouth and rampant 'piracy' of its code. It's an OS that was able to dominate the computer market largely of its own merits, not because some company was forcing hardware manufacturers to use it or die (a la Microsoft Windows).
In the sense that it was able to take over the market so thoroughly, Unix can be thought of as the "first Windows" - but its ascent to power had completely different dynamics, much more akin to GNU/Linux.
@Pentium: You've had *contact* with Unix at one point or another, you probably just don't know it. d:
My first experience with Unix was in 2006/07-ish, installing Puppy Linux on an old PC. Since then I've used many varieties of Linux, gotten fairly accustomed to using the BASH shell, and learned some of the ins and outs of Linux - I used Ubuntu on K8 for about a year, then SuSE (though I really didn't like it), before K8 died last winter. And of course, in late 2009 I got my iMac running a version of BSD Unix we call OSX. ^^
@Kari: Your cell phone certainly could... I suspect mine runs Linux, since that's the primary OS Motorola was using at the time of its manufacturing.
i have a tracphone by LG. don't know if that means anything. :\
i installed ymlf OS on my laptop; a fairly stable linux distribution.
well, google the problem then. when in doubt, gugurekasu. -w-
(also, i read that as y-milf)
I saw the word UNIX and now I wanna say when I first used UNIX!
2001 was when I first used UNIX when we bought a iMac and then a Macintish G3, I still have everything that came with the copy of OSX 10.1 that my dad bought for both systems (They both ran OS9 for some reason~) the entire booklet, disk, and case are sitting on my bookshelf right now, I just happened to look at it while typing this!
Taim for bed, I leave you with trance party!
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q364/tcmapler/UNIZ.gif)
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once again, i'm missing my raving hitler pic. :[
Well, I've successfully upgraded 2k-tan to an SSD. Here's what my WEI score looks like; showing just how awesome she is after this last major upgrade:
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/WEIscoresonmydesktopafterSSD.png)
nice specs
price and parts list?
here is my WEI on Clover:
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/715/capturemts.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/capturemts.png/)
Uploaded with a hope to find people lower than me .
cost me 500.00 flat to build
$750.00 that was bought at bestbuy 3 years ago with only the graphics card getting an update:
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q364/tcmapler/Myscore.png)
Here's mine:
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd55/Dominar_Rygel_XVI/WEI.jpg)
5.9 is the highest you can go in Vista.
Here's a rundown of everything that has gone into my desktop
Case: Antec Three Hundred
Power supply: Antec TruPower New 650W
Processor: Intel Core i7-2600 (Quad, 3.4Ghz)
RAM: Kingston HyperX 4GB DDR3 (2 SIMMS; to be bumped up to 4 later on)
Graphics card: Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6850
Disc drive: Samsung SH-B123L BluRay drive
CPU heatsink & fan: Zalman 9500A
Case fans: Thermaltake 120mm blue LED (Forgot model number)
OSes: Windows 7 Professional, Windows 2000 (In Virtualbox; as "2k-on-2k Mode")
External stuff:
- LG Flatron E2060 LED monitor
- Logitech M100 USB mouse
- Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite, in black (Dual-mode USB & PS/2)
- Afterglow Xbox 360 controller, blue
- Targus USB memory card reader
- USB floppy drive (To be added later)
- Video capture device (To be added later)
Cost so far, rounded up: $1,800
Estimated cost after everything is said and done: $2,000
i would never pay 600.00 for a computer. i may by second hand, but it saved me 1400.00.
if i bought all my parts new, it would of cost 2100.00
so, do the math, i payed about 700.00 for my new computer i got in jan.
Specs:
Windows 7 Ultimate: Free with key i got from imageshack(torrented dvd.)
Core2Extreme 3.33ghz quad core: 90.00 ebay [OC to 4.2ghz easily.]
Visiontek 4850 512mb: 50.00 ebay
Coolermaster hyper x 212: 20.00 ebay with both fans
Gigabyte p53-ud3l: 60.00 ebay
7gb ddr2 800mhz ram: 80.00 ebay
coolermaster case: 70.00 newegg (originally costs 130.00)
Bluray burner: 30.00 Ebay
x 3 dvd burners: 50.00 ebay
500gb HDD: 25.00 ebay
230gb hard drive: free, in trash [rpm 10k]
1tb Hard drive: 40.00
G15 keyboard: free from friend
equalizer z Mouse: 15.00 newegg
case fans: 20.00
hdmi cables: 3.00 each ebay
650w coolermaster psu: 25,00 ebay
32 inch hdtv: free(well, he took a penny.)
stereo receiver: 40.00
Cervin Vegas Speakers: 60.00
Sony 7506 headphones: 40.00
and with shipping is about 600-700 usd.
u jelly?
Not bad for the price, but the enjoyment of getting to go overboard made 2k-tan worth the nearly $2,000 I invested in her creation
Anyway, my next project in line is fixing up a PC I bought for $15 at a garage sale a few weeks back; so my dad will have something more powerful. However, the most expensive thing holding it back is the fact I don't have a CD and matching product key set for Windows XP; I have a disc for Pro, but a key for Home Edition. Anybody know of some ways around this?
Torrent an ISO? It's perfectly legal.
Quote from: Red-Machine on June 15, 2011, 07:15:12 PM
Torrent an ISO? It's perfectly legal.
protip: microsoft offers a iso download of windows 7.
That would probably be my best bet, since there likely isn't any software to bypass the need for a product key and I really don't want to spend $100+ on a new copy of Windows XP (It's not worth pouring that much money into, to be honest)
i got a key if you need one; windows xp pro.
Ok, You can PM it to me and I'll give it a shot later on
XP needs a key? Why have I never needed a key for my XP installs...?
NLite must've taken it out....
Some come with the keys embedded or that disabled. If not, disabling it is not very hard, nor is getting a key generator. There is in fact software and other ways to bypass the need for a key.
I'll have to do some research into that...unless somebody knows of some software off the top of their head that will do that; since the sites you search for this sort of thing at are very shady.
there is a way to program a activated key with xp, it is a msconfig exploit
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i98/Chocofreak13/speedyscomputerspecs.png)
late, and not very impressive..... ;^;
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on June 16, 2011, 01:04:56 AM
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late, and not very impressive..... ;^;
looks like a mid tier 2008
yeah, this pc was made for vista. there's only one glitch, though: the built-in mic doesn't work. :\
Here's the WEI scores on Asagi, for anybody curious
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Timey%20wimey%20stuff/WEIscoresonmylaptop.png)
@Alex: msconfig exploit? Do tell
I think my "WEI" for this computer is 6.2 or so, due to the integrated Nvidia graphics. The rest was 7.something if I remember right.
poor speedy's falling behind..... ;^;
Dat Lambda.
Only has 1 optical drive tho, the other 4 are virtual by Daemontools~ and the big drive is external.
BUT STILL. And it's originally a vista lappy, too.
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/NejinOniwa/Myself/Screenshots/LAMBDA-Statsw.png)
ho jeez, dat graphics memory. @__@;
Meh, I've got 1536MB of dedicated GDDR5 and 1791MB of shared system memory.
Yes, but LAMBDA is turning 2 years old this summer. =w=
*___*;
2k seems to be not just the most powerful PC in my fleet, but the most powerful out of all the computers owned by my fellow OSCers. Hail to the queen!
Also, Asagi's WEI was about where Speedy is when I first got her. It's amazing what maxing out the RAM can do...
You may have the fastest CPU, but my 580 kicks the ass of your 6850.
I tend to ignore graphics cards when talking about how powerful a system is. After all, the Yeti could pull off things with it's on-board Cirrus Logic video that other PCs with ATI cards from the era had issues with
512 GB SSD bros,
respect.
I also know for certain it scored a 7.9 in the 'WEI" or whatever.
Seems all of us have something to bring to the table.
Now, with our powers combined, we form Captain Plane-/shot
A 512GB SSD that scores a perfect 7.9? That must have cost an arm and a leg; the 128GB one I bought was $275 after shipping, since I managed to catch it on sale
it cost a little over $1,000 if I remember right.
I'm just surprised that not only does the integrated 320m score higher than the dedicated 9,600 GT, it scores quite a bit higher apparently.
Watchtower is getting outdated.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+
nVidia Geforce GTS 250 (1GB)
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H
3 GB RAM
But the Gigaboard supports AM3, so maybe I should just buy a new processor... And moar RAM...
I added hard drives!
/dev/sda -- 500 GB WDC
/dev/sdb -- 500 GB WDC
/dev/sdc -- 1 TB WDC
/dev/sdd -- 80 GB Maxtor
/dev/sde -- 80 GB Maxtor
*___*;;
all my computer parts, i got for free....
Me too! Mine are throw-aways from my brother. :p
lol, just like speedy! ^^
Frankenstein Classic was built around parts my great uncle gave me. In the 6 years it's existed, the only thing I have ever bought for it was a copy of Windows ME
i didn't even buy that. -w-
Quote from: svx on June 16, 2011, 09:56:43 PM
Watchtower is getting outdated.
But the Gigaboard supports AM3, so maybe I should just buy a new processor... And moar RAM...
Make sure it supports the CPU you want before you buy it. My old AM2+ board only supported 95w AM3 CPUs, which limited me to Semprons and Athlon II x2's.
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on June 16, 2011, 10:46:34 PM
i didn't even buy that. -w-
Nope, you got it from me. :3
yep. and i got windows 7 from mah brother russell, and speedy from mah brother ben. 8)
my cleaned desktop.
(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5636/img0062es.jpg) (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/img0062es.jpg/)
Uploaded with a tiny bit of pride
Tower: Windows 7 Ultimate
Black Laptop: Windows Vistake Ultimate
Grey Laptop: Windows ME
Also pictured is my dreamcast, my stereo recheiver, and my glass desk.
you jelly?
The main thing I'm jelly of the gigantic desk you have. Just having 2k and Asagi setup on mine takes up most of the space; leaving no room for my scanner
the desk is cheap; only 100.00 usd at office depot
Mine was $5 at a garage sale ages ago, and weights a ton. It may be a bit beat up from years of use, but it's as solid as a rock
Nice desk Alex. 8)
I use an old table as my "desk"... I even have a set of chairs that goes with it... I like it mainly because I can have my computer and one end, and use the other side as a workspace. -w-;;;
my desk was free....and it's a wooden drafting desk. :3
my chair (also free) doesn't fit too well under it, though.... :\
My desk is one that my dad built. It's large enough for my Mini, Macbook, cable box, scanner, several soda cans (haha!), has a compartment underneath for my G3, and drawers that store a lot of papers! I don't have any good pics at the moment because it's pretty much always messy.
so's mine. i'll be able to get some nice ones once it's clean. :\
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy312/CH0Z0/dee2cd44.jpg?t=1308431235)
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You forgot to put in the I/O shield and the slot blankers.
You do realise to put the I/O shield in, the motherboard has to be removed?
I'm fine with that and do realize it.
Is the I/O shield required? This shows more blue for the place it's going, to be honest.
Yes. Like the slot blankers, it will fuck up airflow if it's not installed, which means the system won't be able to cool itself properly. It also does some other things that I forget.
Also, how many fans are in that thing?
Quote from: Krizonar on June 18, 2011, 05:14:18 PM
I'm fine with that and do realize it.
Is the I/O shield required? This shows more blue for the place it's going, to be honest.
I recommend putting it on, keeps the dust out and unwanted things falling in （・ω・ノ
I'm not sure, the slot bankers were tear away (like the I/O shield) and no extra ones came. The graphics card also went into a very odd one and takes up another one as well.
It has 2 fans,
it has one air funnel and has air vents on the side panel,
I'm not including the fans on the cpu or gpu.
This is a fairly open aired case as it is, so I'm not sure what harm could be done really. It pulls air from the front and the side out the back.
It also runs very cool, even to the touch.
@Kraus: don't worry about cleaning, I clean like everything like all the time 8)
There should have been an I/O shield included in the motherboard box. And why did you remove all the slot blankers? You should have only taken out the ones you needed to to fit the graphics card.
There was, but there are no additional slot bankers.
And because it looked cleaner with all out or all in.
Plus, since they didn't send me any replacements, I didn't think it would do any harm to remove them, since if it did, they would have sent a few replacements for broken ones, etc.
Besides, this thing still needs wireless and bluetooth.
You're not gonna notice a lack of symmetry with the slot blankers because:
a) the slots are facing the wall
b) the slots with missing blankers will be occupied by cards
Go down to your locak computer store or Radio Shack or whatever and buy some screw-on ones. Either that, or go scrounging for some off junked PCs (make sure they're screw in, if they're just tear off they'll do you no good because you won't have anything to fix them to).
No offence, but removing them all simply for aesthetic purposes is kinda dumb, since you won't see them and them not being there causes a load of airflow problems.
I was not intending to have the back of my computer against the wall, but the left side of it parallel to the wall. This way, the blue glows out the side and back, it also positions it to receive assistant cooling from the fan in my room.
This case has many ratings that point out how open-aired it is and how easily it cools itself due to this technique. If temperatures ever do get a bit high for my taste, though, I will install the I/O shield and try my best at the slots as per your advice.
One of the slots was bent when I bought this, by the way, so I took that one out regardless.
@Kriz: for your monitor problem you should try the on board video first to test the cable, then if that works make sure the card is placed all the way inside its port
if neither of these work then its your cable, if the mobo video works then its something with your card.
One last thing, if you have a high end card that takes up two slots then make sure you have power going to it because many high end cards need direct power from the power supply to function properly!
Good luck mai boi（・ロ・ノ
Kriz, that smoke could have been something to do with the graphics circuitry.
Quote from: Red-Machine on June 18, 2011, 07:52:27 PM
Kriz, that smoke could have been something to do with the graphics circuitry.
GREAT SCOT, RED COULD BE ONTO SOMETHING HERE!!!!
Also, if you took my "Yes." thing about the smoke seriously I was just joking around with you that is usually a bad sign （・◇・；
On Red's suggestion over in Topicless, I've gone to Intel's website to try and find the drivers he mentioned. However, there's two different current versions; I have no idea which one to use.
The first one (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19607&ProdId=2101&lang=eng)
The second one (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19601&ProdId=2101&lang=eng)
According to the scan I ran from their site to see what drivers I needed, everything is up to date; including the SATA drivers, which where provided on the disc that came with my motherboard instead of using the Windows generic drivers. So, I'm really not sure what to do...
The smoke was clearly not coming from the graphics card (the smoke was coming from near the top, near the wires in front of the PSU, the graphics card is on the bottom), but I DO think the graphics card is not working, despite the fan working. Though yes, it's getting power and is all the way inside its port.
This mb has no onboard video, so I'll most likely just send the whole thing back and get knowledge for my time working with it.
I kept all the boxes and stuff just in case, so I'm going to get like 90% of my money back according to their RMA stuff.
(I also think the DVD drive is busted)
If that means you're giving up, than don't. I'll admit, even 2k wasn't perfect when I first built her; she had a lot of weird bugs at the start, like not wanting to turn on, but I eventually worked it out and she ran great.
Of course, this coming from the guy who puts down the entire idea of SSDs because of the terrible experience I've had so far with them...
Work on boxing all this crap or work on computer...
both seem equally daunting...
/looks at giant pile of boxes
I'd suggest sending the graphics card off for a replacement first, since that seems to be where your problem lies. It's worth a shot before you decide to scrap the entire project thus far
While the experience was kinda cool, I've had enough of the PC world I've decided :P
this also is not my smoke record. That honor lies with a PC I had in 4th grade. Now THAT was smoke.
Well, then I have a 4-step program to solve all issues:
1: Return everything
2: Convert her to a Mac user like yourself
3: ???
4: Profit!
Also, I've never had any of my PCs, or even my sadly dead iMac, smoke. That record goes to a set of speakers; which I plugged too powerful of a power supply into to try and make them work again. They worked better than they ever had...until I heard a loud pop and saw a small trail of smoke come out of the grill; which spelled the end for them
She's not really a computer user, period, she spends more time in games than she does in her OS.
She's fine with her Mac Mini, just I thought it'd be cool for her to have one of those stereotypical gaming rigs.
I explained the situation to her though and she understands, thankfully for me. :-[ made me feel less terrible about failing.
That computer in 4th grade was smoking up a storm, I apparently burned the entire inside out, charred it black.
edit; found out where the smoke came from, the DVD drive, it was a defective unit, as I thought.
@red: when building a pc, i actually find to remove all of them is more useful, as i typically try to affix a fan there :3
@kriz: if you give up that easily, you don't have much balls, dude.
Two (possibly more) defective parts on one machine that is BRAND new? Yeah, I guess I'm just used to some sort of quality.
Hey, shit happens, Kirz. This is electronics we're talking about here.
@Pentium: The first one is what you need. And the detection tool Intel provides only checks for drivers, not things like RST.
Well, I tried the RST software, but it won't let me install it; saying that I don't meet the minimum requirements
@kriz: don't be a baby. you wouldn't give up if this were a mac, would you?
And this is why I would never build my own PC. It seems so much more economical/easy/I-won't-be-bothered-by-this-shit to just go out and buy a computer, and you know that - depending on the brand - it was probably put together competently and will work fine out of the box. (Plus, my affinity for laptops, all in one models and Apple computers puts building my own out of the question).
@Kari: No name-calling plz? It's rude and it's not helpful at all. -___________-;;;;;;
i wasn't trying to do any name calling. i was just saying that giving up so easily (especially since he invested cash into this) seems a tad childish. sure, sometimes things don't work out perfect, but that's when you google it, pick a different port and try again. :\
Today I went to Best Buy and molested computers/phones/tablets... which is what I usually do when in Best Buy.
Random thoughts:
-I used an iPhone for the first time ever, and now I realllllly want one. (Especially since i no longer have any working laptop, it'd be nice to have a little mobile "computer")
-There are so many *Nix-using phones, PCs and tablets out there, it's interesting that ~40 years after Unix first started to take over the minicomputer market, it's starting to become prominent among home computers (via Android and the various BSD-based Apple OSes).
-Apple laptops have no vents (save a small slot in the rear), how are they not overheating? Did Apple finally master the heat-dissapation-through-aluminum-cases trick they tried with the Apple /// in the 1980s?
I used OS/2 Warp 4.0 earlier. I'd probably like it better if the VHD I downloaded didn't have so many issues (It boots up with a lot of errors), the most prominent one being that it's stuck in 16 color mode (Which is just not enough). Also, it's interface is much different than what I'm used to seeing with the previous version I used (OS/2 2.11); so it took a little getting used to.
It'd be nice if I could install this myself, and actually have it better setup...although, finding a working ISO or a hard copy is going to be the tricky part...on top of figuring out why I can't boot from CDs anymore in Virtualbox (It worked when setting up 2k-on-2k Mode, but now it won't let me boot from any external media, physical or disk image, when I try to make a new virtual machine)
@pentium: google it? :\ that's usually what i do when i have a tech problem.
@bella: yet another mystery of mac. >>;
when my room gets clean, i plan on installing my music drive into one of the PCs, and using it as a slave to temporarily access it. >>;
Quote from: Bella on June 20, 2011, 09:09:38 PM
Today I went to Best Buy and molested computers/phones/tablets... which is what I usually do when in Best Buy.
Random thoughts:
-I used an iPhone for the first time ever, and now I realllllly want one. (Especially since i no longer have any working laptop, it'd be nice to have a little mobile "computer")
-There are so many *Nix-using phones, PCs and tablets out there, it's interesting that ~40 years after Unix first started to take over the minicomputer market, it's starting to become prominent among home computers (via Android and the various BSD-based Apple OSes).
-Apple laptops have no vents (save a small slot in the rear), how are they not overheating? Did Apple finally master the heat-dissapation-through-aluminum-cases trick they tried with the Apple /// in the 1980s?
-typing on one here, yeah, they're nice to have, though you probably just want an iPod touch, it's a little less advanced (not shaped as well, camera not as good, etc), but it gets the job done.
-As an owner, yes, they have. Ever since the Powerbook G4, they've been quite the masters of heat dissipation via metal, my laptop has one fan it really only uses when playing games and such. I find it amusing when people talk about their computers heat problems and then think of a Macbook Air running Crysis ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-bqbFRsgcI )and cooling itself very well. The temperature in the CPU of my laptop usually sits about 117 F (47C), yet the entire body is, overall, slightly warmer than skin. The Macbook pro is capable of reaching temperatures of
230 F (115C) with no permanent damage. That's about as hot as the engine of a Corvette sitting in traffic, gunning itself. Needless to say, I've never seen mine ever get even close to that, even when rendering HD video.
that's something that i'll say impresses me about apple. that is a DAMN good idea (making the entire computer shell a heatsink).
Was reading up on John Titor a little and this is what he said about UNIX:
UNIX has a problem in 2038.
Quote from: Krizonar on June 20, 2011, 10:31:43 PM
-typing on one here, yeah, they're nice to have, though you probably just want an iPod touch, it's a little less advanced (not shaped as well, camera not as good, etc), but it gets the job done.
Nah, I'd still want an iPhone, my current cellphone is pushing 6 years old and I've always planned on upgrading to a smartphone at some point (be it an iPhone or Android device). I'd still use it as a phone at home (since I currently don't have a landline telephone), but it would really come in handy when away from home or traveling, what with the mobile web/GPS/built in digital camera/you-name-it-it-has-it. It's like the Swiss Army Knife for the internet age. xD;
Quote from: Krizonar on June 20, 2011, 10:31:43 PM-As an owner, yes, they have. Ever since the Powerbook G4, they've been quite the masters of heat dissipation via metal, my laptop has one fan it really only uses when playing games and such. I find it amusing when people talk about their computers heat problems and then think of a Macbook Air running Crysis ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-bqbFRsgcI )and cooling itself very well. The temperature in the CPU of my laptop usually sits about 117 F (47C), yet the entire body is, overall, slightly warmer than skin. The Macbook pro is capable of reaching temperatures of 230 F (115C) with no permanent damage. That's about as hot as the engine of a Corvette sitting in traffic, gunning itself. Needless to say, I've never seen mine ever get even close to that, even when rendering HD video.
Ah-ha! I suspected Macs used their cases to dissipate heat ever since I noticed how few vents my iMac has (just that slot and the smaller grate [?] in the back), and how warm the rear of the case gets w/o overheating. But I guess seeing those laptops, with the ventless cases, really drove home the point that there's something unusual going on with their design. ^^
Because of all this talk, I downloaded a heat monitor from cnet.com so I can actually get an idea of what's going on in there. (It hasn't been on long, and core 1 is running at 88℉, core 2 is 90℉)
heh, your computer is almost at human temperature. -w-
you have to wonder, if we're eventually going to be integrated with computers, how would the computer not burn out running in our bodies? :\
Quote from: Bella on June 21, 2011, 12:19:06 PM
Quote from: Krizonar on June 20, 2011, 10:31:43 PM
-typing on one here, yeah, they're nice to have, though you probably just want an iPod touch, it's a little less advanced (not shaped as well, camera not as good, etc), but it gets the job done.
Nah, I'd still want an iPhone, my current cellphone is pushing 6 years old and I've always planned on upgrading to a smartphone at some point (be it an iPhone or Android device). I'd still use it as a phone at home (since I currently don't have a landline telephone), but it would really come in handy when away from home or traveling, what with the mobile web/GPS/built in digital camera/you-name-it-it-has-it. It's like the Swiss Army Knife for the internet age. xD;
Quote from: Krizonar on June 20, 2011, 10:31:43 PM-As an owner, yes, they have. Ever since the Powerbook G4, they've been quite the masters of heat dissipation via metal, my laptop has one fan it really only uses when playing games and such. I find it amusing when people talk about their computers heat problems and then think of a Macbook Air running Crysis ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-bqbFRsgcI )and cooling itself very well. The temperature in the CPU of my laptop usually sits about 117 F (47C), yet the entire body is, overall, slightly warmer than skin. The Macbook pro is capable of reaching temperatures of 230 F (115C) with no permanent damage. That's about as hot as the engine of a Corvette sitting in traffic, gunning itself. Needless to say, I've never seen mine ever get even close to that, even when rendering HD video.
Ah-ha! I suspected Macs used their cases to dissipate heat ever since I noticed how few vents my iMac has (just that slot and the smaller grate [?] in the back), and how warm the rear of the case gets w/o overheating. But I guess seeing those laptops, with the ventless cases, really drove home the point that there's something unusual going on with their design. ^^
Because of all this talk, I downloaded a heat monitor from cnet.com so I can actually get an idea of what's going on in there. (It hasn't been on long, and core 1 is running at 88℉, core 2 is 90℉)
-well, I'm proud to report the iPhone has all those things. I cheated during the scavenger hunt in Hawaii and used its gps.
-You'll find that desktops stay much cooler because of their, well, bulk. An iMac from your time also has 2 fans, so it can handle a lot. The laptops get hotter, mainly because mine is a tiny 13 inch that's not even 1 inch thick but still has to dissipate heat. Most parts still manage to stay far under human temperature (my SSD is at 79F, battery is at 73F, palm rest is at 75F) though. Just the cpu and graphics go a bit above what it is outside, which is to be expected as those are the hottest parts of computers. Still, the insides of Mac laptops tend to stay around where most custom built desktop computers are recommended to stay, which is impressive.
When playing a game or rendering video or whatever, it does get a bit hotter though, naturally. My graphics card usually sits about 169 F when playing in 1080 on high settings.
Right now I'm using my cousin's Thinkpad, running Vista....
[spoiler]In Maryland.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bella on July 24, 2011, 09:51:57 AMrunning Vista....
Oh how violated you must feel...
You're using Vista? I feel sorry for you
Anyway, here's some info on the latest member of the fleet, in addition to a laptop I'm fixing up for my dad:
The New Mac: Mac Mini (Late '06 Core Duo)
Name: Fuuka (Recycling a scrapped name for 2k-tan the Desktop)
Processor: Core Duo (1.66Ghz)
RAM: 2GB
OS: Mac OS X Snow Leopard (10.6.8)
After wanting a Mac newer than a first generation iMac G3, I finally obtained one about a month ago, and in the process, discovered how awesome Snow Leopard is (After maxing out the RAM, using the leftover 1GB DDR2s leftover from maxing out Asagi a while back). It's easily the most quiet member of the fleet, which is nice for several reasons; one of the major ones being that I don't have to turn up the volume as high when watching AT4W.
The free laptop: WinBook V-Series
Processor: Celeron M (1.5Ghz)
RAM: 256MB
OS: Windows 2000 (W\O drivers; making it ugly and half functional)
I was given this laptop for free at a garage sale I went to, because apparently the screen was dead. All it turned out to be was that it had no RAM at all, nor a hard drive; which I quickly fixed using parts from another one I had lying around, which has lead to my journey to fix this up for my dad. It can now turn on, but it really needs XP; since 2000 sadly won't cut it (There aren't any compatible drivers for that version) and it can't boot Ubuntu (It has a kernel panic before it reaches the desktop)