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Quote from: Chocofreak13 on July 28, 2014, 04:48:37 pmconsidering they're all Windows, i never saw much of a reason to differentiate between trees. if nothing else, you could always say the NTs married into it or something.
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on July 28, 2014, 04:48:37 pmShiroyuki was the name we agreed on for the Apple ][.
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on July 28, 2014, 04:48:37 pmhrm, if it helps any, i could always post my sketches for the Comiket. i have too much going on atm to consider picking it back up on a consistent basis, but at least you could see how the first arc of it ended. i was pretty proud of the outcome, anyway. ^^;;
Quote from: Bella on July 30, 2014, 02:11:15 amAs for Windows NT-tan and the Windows family, in C-chan's, Aurora's, Stew's, Pent's and my story canons (which are all related for what it's worth), Windows NT-tan was genetically engineered by Microsoft from OpenVMS-tan's "source code" (reflecting the real-world fact that Windows NT is largely based on VMS, sharing a similar architecture and common creator) and has some OS/2-tan genetics in her as well (again reflecting a real-world relation between the two OSes). She was pretty close with Windows 95-tan and Windows 3.1-tan growing up, but shares no blood relation to the Early Windows or 9.x-tan branches.
Quote from: Bella on July 30, 2014, 02:11:15 amAs for names, I tend to name my -tans after their creators, or the creator most commonly associated with the OS in question. Linux-tan is Lina Torvalds (after Linus Torvalds), Multics and CTSS-tan are Minerva and Tessa Corbató (after Fernado Corbató), PDP-8-tan is Kate deCastro (after Edson deCastro), most of the DEC-tans are surnamed Olsen or Bell, after the two most prominent figures in DEC engineering and management. When it makes sense, I sometimes use corporation names for -tan surnames; for instance Burroughs MCP-tan is Margaret Burroughs and Bell Labs Unix-tan is Eunice Bell. Granted, this isn't quite as logical for modern-day -tans (particularly the Windows and Apple-tans).
Quote from: Bella on August 01, 2014, 12:58:37 pm@Winduko: Interestingly that sounds almost completely in-character for VMS-tan. Particularly 80s/90s VMS-tan, she really had zero will to have anything to do with children, and the idea of having her own child would probably be even less appealing to her. Of course, I also envision her as being hard asexual and grossed out by the idea of offspring-production (be it produced the "old fashioned way" or grown in a laboratory -- in fact that last bit is one of many reasons she's creeped out by the Unix society) so how she'd have ended up with an unwanted child is a little more out-of-character. ^^;
Quote from: Bella on August 01, 2014, 12:58:37 pmIn our (my, C-chan's, Aurora's, Stew's and Pent's) story canon(s), NT-tan knows nothing of her relationship to VMS despite having been in close contact with each other on several occasions, even fighting each other at one point. It's heavily implied there was some kind of psychological conditioning to keep NT-tan from suspecting anything about VMS (or OS/2) and that VMS-tan started wearing her mask precisely to keep people in the "outside world" from drawing conclusions about hers' and NT-tan's relationship. As it stands, the only Windows-tan who knows for sure is Windows 2k-tan, and she's aware enough to keep the knowledge to herself.
Quote from: Bella on August 01, 2014, 12:58:37 pmAs for incest, that's really a matter of personal preference and I respect you not wanting to include any such plots in your stories. Personally I'm less bothered by it (fiction only, obviously) and imagine it's not particularly taboo among OS-tans given the tendency for "related" systems to be the most psychologically and biologically "compatible".
Quote from: Bella on August 01, 2014, 12:58:37 pmOn the subject of NT-tan's beau, I imagine 95-tan would best fit the bill. In our canon(s), 95-tan and NT-tan are close friends already, and 3.1-tan is viewed as something of a motherly/senior figure to the "newer" generations of Windows-tans.
Quote from: Bella on August 01, 2014, 12:58:37 pmAs for names, interesting you used Cutler also: RSX, VMS and VAXELN-tan are Risa, Vanessa and Ellen Cutler, respectively. (The name becomes unintentionally punny when you consider that they're all supposed to be brilliant swordswomen.) Though the named-after-real-life-creators convention does get difficult when dealing with newer corporate OSes, many of which have large development teams and no one true creator. This is why I've never attempted it for either the Windows or Apple families. Though you've proven that it can be done, if you're willing to ignore some of the effects on continuity (i.e. the Windows-tans being canonically Japanese, or at least residing in Japan).
Quote from: winduko on August 01, 2014, 03:21:19 pmNT-tan thinks that it's under wraps, and only two or three people aside from her and her biological mother know. It's not hard to figure out, so those whom have seen Sharkwoman unmasked know. The only reason why not everyone would know is because not many have seen Sharkwoman unmasked.
QuoteI'm going to find a way to incorporate OS/2-tan into NT-tan's backstory. I can't ignore the influence of OS/2 on Windows NT.
QuoteWell, the OS-tans in my work are very close to human. In fact, the only thing that separates them from other humans is that, for the most part, they live in a secluded city to contain their supernatural abilities. It has spread to other places thanks to the fact that one person was allowed outside, and she reproduced. Thankfully, not everyone has the genetics needed to develop such abilities, and the only reasons why that one person was allowed to leave was because of her lack of genetic ability and the lack of knowledge that this kind of thing was contagious and not just linked to genetics.That's why there's no incest, because they are humans with supernatural influences (on top of being based on an OS and likely not being aware of it).
QuoteAs you can tell, it isn't easy, but it is possible with (some of) the Windows-tans. I don't know enough about the Mac-tans to be able to let you know how I'd name them, however.
Quote from: Bella on August 02, 2014, 09:45:57 pmInterestingly, you can draw a parallel between NT-tan being placed in VMS-tan's care and subsequently rejected with the commercial non-success of Windows NT on the DEC Alpha architecture (which was then the primary architecture for VMS), support for which was dropped after version 4.0
Quote from: Bella on August 02, 2014, 09:45:57 pmHmm, s'not too far off the mark from our conclusions about NT-tan's "birth". According to C-chan (who got the ball rolling on the creation of the wider OS-tan universe as we know it) both NT-tan and Windows 1.0-tan were created in the lab, so the biggest difference in your story universe is what happened after her creation.
Quote from: Bella on August 02, 2014, 09:45:57 pmInterestingly, you can draw a parallel between NT-tan being placed in VMS-tan's care and subsequently rejected with the commercial non-success of Windows NT on the DEC Alpha architecture (which was then the primary architecture for VMS), support for which was dropped after version 4.0.
Quote from: Bella on August 02, 2014, 09:45:57 pmIn our story canon, only two -tans are CONFIRMED to have knowledge of NT's and VMS-tan's relationship, Windows 2K and Unix-tan. I would argue that the DECs and senior-ish minicomputer and mainframe-tans also know, but the DEC's certainly aren't talking and the mainframes undoubtedly give zero fucks about it, making it more-or-less a non-issue. I imagine few contemporary-tans are aware of VMS's presence, much less what she looks like beneath the mask. (An allusion to VMS being such a niche OS these days.)
Quote from: Bella on August 02, 2014, 09:45:57 pmAccording to the Annex Project, they're supposed to be half-sisters. Of course ... not quite in the usual human sense of the word, so IDK how that would translate into your universe.
Quote from: Bella on August 02, 2014, 09:45:57 pmFair enough! There seems to be some royal-family-type-logic going on in my story universe -- related systems (either by blood or faction) tend to pair up. LINC/PDP-8, Unix/Linux, Plan9/Slackware, PDP-11/various Unices, etc. Then again, despite being near-copies of human beings biologically, they're decidedly not human, and people in general seem to stay out of their relationships for the most part.
Quote from: Bella on August 02, 2014, 09:45:57 pmReally, the only real-life surname I could even imagine giving the Mac-tans is "Jobs", and that could be problematic for a variety of reasons.
Quote from: PentiumMMX on August 02, 2014, 11:50:54 pmAs a fun fact, very early beta builds of Windows 2000 still had Alpha support; I'll have to dig through my notes from when I was still tinkering with the beta versions to figure out when support was dropped.
Quote from: winduko on August 03, 2014, 12:34:50 amThe OS X-tans? I feel inclined to say yes because NeXTSTEP. Classic Mac-tans? No. Just no.
Quote from: Krizonar on August 04, 2014, 04:38:54 pmHe was the founder of the company and was the leader of the Macintosh project.Any reason for the no?
Quote from: winduko on August 03, 2014, 12:34:50 amAmusingly enough, NT-tan and Rhapsody-tan, the ones with the job description of "preventing the leader from doing any action she probably will regret when it comes to the other family" are extremely close friends. I believe this part is already in the expanded universe.