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Quote from: winduko on July 23, 2014, 02:50:17 pmI even know how to implement her in my project. How she'll be implemented is a huge spoiler, however.
Quote from: winduko on July 24, 2014, 04:25:40 pmHmm. I have realized that what you said earlier about Alto being their spiritual predecessor makes a ton more sense and would fit better into the story. The project is thankfully fully open for retcons.
Quote from: PentiumMMX on July 24, 2014, 04:44:35 pmTBH, although I vaguely knew of Xerox Alto, I didn't think to incorporate it into my story...although I do establish Multics as the spiritual predecessor of all -tans(Also, the lab she was created in is referred to as a holy ground -w-)
Quote from: Bella on July 24, 2014, 06:25:30 pmI'm very flattered you like my ideas. ^_^With regards to project retcons, I know the feeling also; a lot of my OS-tan backstory is a work-in-progress. As I learn more about personified systems, brainstorm ideas with others and build a clearer picture of the OS-tan universe things get changed around and refined. There's really no such thing as a 100% concrete backstory because I never know what I'll learn next. ^^
Quote from: winduko on July 24, 2014, 08:19:28 pm...and then there are the times where canon doesn't say anything and history points to a direction I have no desire to go. And there are times where canon points in a direction I don't wish to go, or advised to not go. In both cases I try to find a compromise or just ignore it altogether. And sometimes those decisions are so much better than my previous ideas that I are happy that I was not advised to go in that direction.
QuoteAdmittedly, I didn't think until right now to somehow incorporate Multics into my story. I did, however, have a means of establishing UNIX-tan, Linux-tan, and their descendants into my story. Surely incorporating Multics wouldn't be too hard.
Quote from: Bella on July 26, 2014, 12:09:50 pmTo be honest, avoiding modifications to Futaba Canon and the wider canon of the "original" OS-tans is one of the reasons I gravitated so heavily toward "non-canonical" OS-tans. When I first came here, the original OS-tan canon was more-or-less sacred and anyone who dared to modify or expound upon it was instantly suspect. Then again, Mid-Aughts OSC was an exponentially more SRSBSNS place and such concepts as "headcanons" were unheard of.
Quote from: Bella on July 26, 2014, 12:09:50 pmThankfully things are more laid-back now and as long as you don't attempt to claim any personal ideas as THE Canon you should be okay.
Quote from: Bella on July 26, 2014, 12:09:50 pmOS-tan worldbuilding is a lot different from usual fictional worldbuilding because there's already a rough framework and timeline based in real life history. Because of this, retcons are all but inevitable as we learn more about the systems we personify -- at least if we wish to keep our stories congruent with historical events. As well there's the matter of personal growth as storytellers, sometimes ideas that made sense at one point no longer seem interesting or logical and need to be changed.
Quote from: Bella on July 26, 2014, 12:09:50 pmI know the feeling. There's nothing more frustrating than those gaps in an a character design or backstory that can't be adequately satisfied by historical events. Sometimes it feels like cheating to invent occurrences to fill in gaps, other times it feels dry and unimaginative to follow historical events with complete faith. This is when having some preexisting frameworks come in handy, since in absence of historical evidence we can always use similar characters or situations to draw conclusions. For example, -tans of a certain type are often portrayed as having common traits (early computer-tans often run in very small social circles, timesharing OS-tans are usually very sociable, Unix-tans have common physical and mental traits, mobile OS-tans are often depicted as being tiny and fairy-like, etc.) -- this makes deducing facts about new OS-tans of these type easier to do.
Quote from: Bella on July 26, 2014, 12:09:50 pmIn fairness, by the 80s and 90s Multics-tan was fairly irrelevant in the wider OS-tan community. However she's massively important to Unix-tan herself and the more historically-minded of the Unix-tans accept her as something of an ancestor so she's still somewhat important in their culture.
Quote from: PentiumMMX on July 26, 2014, 12:23:49 pmIndeed on retcons; the reason for the split between the old world and new world continuity of my story series was to make is easier for me to weed out some of the stupider aspects (Rodney being a former prince, 2k's "real name" being the internal version number of Windows 2000, etc. etc.)