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[Tsubashi]

eheh... Need I remind you what happened the last time we got involved in inter-board politics? ^^'

[Bella]

I'll join the DeviantOS-tans once I get my new DA username and upload some pictures. I have not forgotten at all.

*writes down Aurora-sama's name*

Yay! One more. :3

Incidentally, I've been wondering about SmackJeeves, and if I shouldn't try uploading my comic there to keep everything organized. Just a thought, though...

Thank you Bella-sama. It's good to be back. Figures I mess up on the timing, ne? -_-'

I seem to remember us discussing an OSC-tan, but in the end we decided we were all too biased. We would put too much intricacy in one area and not enough in another. Plus it seemed a little too concieted. Then again...

I remember that discussion, too...IIRC, one thought was to have it be a chimera of different OSC OS-tan designs, but that was ruled out as too complicated. Another was to make her some sort of fangirl... : \

Sleepy-sama and I share at least one thing: Forum OCD. I'm currently reading through your thread in my effort to catch up, and I must say that, though I haven't gotten to your most recent works yet, you astound me with how adaptable and incredibly talented you are. I just hot to Vi-kun and oh my goodness. You improve so quickly and do so much! I am so sorry I missed so much. Gomen nasai, gomen nasai.
*Bows Apologetically*

Like I said before, it means a lot just knowing you've taken the time to go back and look though the art threads.

Ah, you've gotten to the app-kuns...wait till you get to the latest, greatest, Multics/Unix-sama picture.

Gah! You've a Manga thread too? I think I vaguely remember it now, but I'd entirely forgotten until a few moments ago. Honestly, you are phenomenal!

That's why they call me the hardest working woman in OS-tan business...no...wait...not really... ^^;

I sort of got bored with the VMS-sama comic and moved on to a Linux-sama comic...which I'm committed to finishing. No matter what.

I consider myself sort of an artistic type. I don't really have much confidence in my ability to draw, so I don't really think my opinion of art holds much weight. I have a few ideas for some -tans, but the concepts are mostly confined by my interests. I guess there's no time like the present to get involved and visit your other threads, Bella-sama.

Well, nobody is that great an artist at first-- it's all a matter of practice and time. As for your -tan ideas, do you mean they're non-OS-tans? I might still like to hear about them. I admit I had the idea to make force-tans...gravity-tan, electromagnetism-tan, strong and weak nuclear force-tan, but I never really got around to it.

Thanks muchly. ^^
I have to mention that the Kino pic was a collab, and I only did the coloring for that. Still, Kino is awesome and is also one of my favorite series ever. :3

heh alrighty, sure, I'll sign up for your group.

Dunno if it was the look you were going for, but the coloring almost looks hand-colored. And I like how you did the grass and sky. It's really nice. ^^

As for the club, just send me a note or post a link to your OS/2-tan picture, and I'll fave it. Those idiots at DA seem to be dragging their feet on making some sort of club feature... and I'm being a bit lazy about directly uploading the pictures to the account...

It's still in beta, though, and I'm trying to figure out the layout and such as we speak.

I'd revive my Touhou thread, but I'm not sure how many (active) people here play touhou. A lot of the people who first replied to that thread have since disappeared.

I've never even heard of it before now. -///-

Methinks, an organized odyssey into the worlds of +Nijiura+ and the like would be of help to us, hum, hum.

Journey to the Center of the +Nijura+? Around the Imageboard in 80 Days? I call first mate on this trip-- NOT! o.O

[NejinOniwa]

eheh... Need I remind you what happened the last time we got involved in inter-board politics? ^^'

Did I say politics, man?
I'm calling for a swift and silent info-raid, here. Sweep in, take their stuff, sweep out. No angering anyone. ^^


Continuing on my previous subject, a bit of searching turns up the following:

WE are the ONLY active OS-Tan dedicated site. And with active I mean just that; the others that turn up on google have been dead since 2004. Not so strange that we get the entire horde here. (and don't ask about Wakachan's board, they're on the Vocaloid track, the entire lot of them)

There are, however, lots of things wandering around, and other things to make. This beauty, for example (attached) I found on iichan's wiki by some random searching, and after a bit of trying, rtfm-ing, and trying again, I got it to work. If we could find and/or build more of this stuff, it's certain (i think, at least) we'd present a heavier magnet pull on new users to go and stay active. Essentially, what we need is...

...windoze hax..
-w-

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[Tsubashi]

I'd revive my Touhou thread, but I'm not sure how many (active) people here play touhou. A lot of the people who first replied to that thread have since disappeared.

I never did get around to making that run in wine, and seeing as I gave away all my extra windows licenses, I'm pretty sure Daikokuten-san (My paravirtualization server) would object to trying to run it through Xen ^.^
Still, it looked really cool ;

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If we could find and/or build more of this stuff, it's certain (i think, at least) we'd present a heavier magnet pull on new users to go and stay active.

I think that would certainly draw more people in, but I don't think that would help retention any. We'd need something to engage them, not just be an eccentric download.

[NejinOniwa]

And thus comes my trap card into play.

Windows XP is (still) the major OS on the market - and most notably among more experienced users who don't want VistAIDS yet won't willingly abandon it all for Linux. And Windsws XP is riddled full of holes where you can hack stuff, as proved by the above file.
Googling a few common windows hacks, using reshack or something to modify them and then uploading the result and BAM, we spread OS-Tan XP.
Now, that might be a bit of a long hopeful shot, but still, I don't the slightest doubt that it can be done.

[Tsubashi]

Once again, that would be a great idea for getting people here, but once they've downloaded them, what makes them come back? We need some activity to engage them.

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Now this on the other hand...

Actually, today I had another very dangerous urge to create one of those overly-ambitious ones -- and I've been trying hard to stifle that nonsense, but it keeps resurfacing. ^^;

It would be a very simple old-RPGeque game centered around the Binteji Renmei. It would have elements of RPG, RTS, social/city simulations and "collect them all" games.

It starts off with the founding of the BR, at which point Amiga-sama, ][-chan, GS/OS, Lisa-chan, Windows 1.0-chan, and Windows 2.0-chan are playable characters. Each has their fighting style (or lack thereof), speech mannerisms, and of course talents. Amiga-sama is a multi-role character whose good at many things and has perpetually-good morale and endurance. ][-chan is a great short and long-range fighter, knows how to grow food (and teach others), but has fairly low speed and hit points. GS/OS-sama is the greatest fighter among them at startup, but generally not very good at much of anything else. Both Lisa-chan and 1.0-chan don't have exceptional talents and their fighting skills are non-existent, but they have almost interminable endurance for boring, reptitive tasks (such as knitting or carrying stuff) and their presence helps maintain morale and happiness. 2.0-chan has poor fighting skills and overall low endurance/hit points, but she's the only one at startup who can build (and teach others to build) strong building structures, and is key to getting ][-chan's simple hut expanded to a decent living place. ^^

The key at the beginning of the game is the same as most Sim city/town/etc simulators -- expand the BR and build up resources so that you start attracting (and/or maintaining) potential new members. This is done by expanding the crop fields, building extra living quarters and storage sheds, refurbishing broken appliances into working ones, fighting off viruses and bootlegs in the vicinity, etc. The player could take direct control of up to three characters at a time, but the real goal is to delegate the tasks properly so the right number of people work on the right number of things. With so few OS-tans at first, and with no communications grid set up, it's dangerous to spread the OS-tans too far.

New members start to introduce new skills that help expand the technology tree further (and add an extra helping hand). PET-chan, for example, would introduce fishing and boating, Pilot-chan flying and trade, ZX-Spectrum-tan higher grades of teaching and research (the more the other OS-tans are taught, the more advanced tech trees become available). There would also be various non-vintage-tans wandering around the map randomly -- a few offer trouble, many a friendly conversation or valuable information, but a couple offer a useful service such as temporary volunteer work, simple bartering, or a financial reward for a simple task or item that can bring in some money.

If mismanaged -- and all the new members leave starved and unhappy, and the buildings/fields created destroyed by rampaging malware-tans -- than the player starts from scratch. If well-played, however, the BR becomes a bustling mini-metropolis of activity, with control and influence over every part of the mini World Map, and with activities essentially self-sustaining.

....

This would be an amazing draw _and_ potentially provide tons of new topics and discussions. Plus it would spark conversations if it was a group effort to build! The problem is finding a common language and enough people with enough time to build it. Like Nejin-sama said, Windows XP is the most common system on the market. Personally, the only graphical programming I know is Obj-C/Quartz, which isn't exactly portable to Windows ^^'
I'd be willing to learn another language though...

[NejinOniwa]

I'm no coder, so I wouldn't be much help there. I could do some basic hacking and delivery, but it does sound like a good idea. The issue is getting enough talented programmers to work on it for long enough, so we can get an initial, working alpha before interest drops...and attracting those may take some work, unless people have ideas.

[IanDanKilmaster]

Well, nobody is that great an artist at first-- it's all a matter of practice and time. As for your -tan ideas, do you mean they're non-OS-tans? I might still like to hear about them. I admit I had the idea to make force-tans...gravity-tan, electromagnetism-tan, strong and weak nuclear force-tan, but I never really got around to it.

Well, I mean more like app-tans.  There were a few ideas Piggy-senpai and I threw around, but nothing ever materialized (C-Chan was too busy and I was too unmotivated).  For example, I've always been keenly interested in the creation of an Amarok-tan (it's probably my favorite program plus it's one of the most popular apps I've never seen an app-tan for).  I also have a general concept of what Amarok-tan should look like, but not the capability to get anything resembling it on paper (or the computer screen for that matter -__-).  There are a few other OS-tans and app-tans I have ideas for as well.

With all the discussion of coding, perhaps I should get working on my Python self-education.

[SleepyD]

Interesting that the fall of one star gives birth (or rejuvenates) a handful of others. ^^

What happened while I was gone and wallowing in physics equations and object-oriented programming? o-O
I didn't properly say goodbye!!

Seriously though, this came out of left field for me as I have been blissfully unaware of what's been going on here for a while.  I've only been checking a thread or two until very recently.

Dunno if it was the look you were going for, but the coloring almost looks hand-colored. And I like how you did the grass and sky. It's really nice. ^^

As for the club, just send me a note or post a link to your OS/2-tan picture, and I'll fave it. Those idiots at DA seem to be dragging their feet on making some sort of club feature... and I'm being a bit lazy about directly uploading the pictures to the account...

It's still in beta, though, and I'm trying to figure out the layout and such as we speak.

Thanks, I felt that a softer palette would have fit Kino more.  And I absolutely love drawing backgrounds, so I'm very happy you noticed. :3

well, I think it's better if you fave it instead of uploading them.  I remember instances where the club pic became more popular than the original pic, and the artist never really got the attention he/she deserved (despite the artist being linked to in the description *roll eyes*) Pictures directly uploaded can be ones that the club has collaborated on.

I'd revive my Touhou thread, but I'm not sure how many (active) people here play touhou. A lot of the people who first replied to that thread have since disappeared.

I've never even heard of it before now. -///-

Ehe, well most people who watch anime don't normally delve into more Japanese otaku culture, but Touhou is a popular item among those guys.  Pop into 4chan's /jp/ board and you'll see a lot of Touhou.
@Tsubashi: I would love to hear any developments in getting Touhou to run outside a Windows platform. :3

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Re: Giant project
That would require a firm commitment among team members.  It's really hard to keep focus when people keep dropping out for weeks at a time.  The alternative is having a large enough group that it can handle people being absent for a substantial periods.  As of now, I don't think OSC is ready to undertake something like that.  

@Ian, re: app-tans
I think the best way to get people (or at the very least, me) motivated is to actually draw something on paper and post it.  From there, improvements could be made, if needed.  Oh, and it's better to be simple when creating these things.  Makes it easy for small modifications to be made from different artists and still keep the feel of the original design.

[Bella]

@ Huge OS-tan game: I agree...something like that would be very difficult to make, and would need a lot of commitment. C-Chan was thinking about doing a much simpler game involving OS-tans, so there's a chance that we might see some sort of original OS-tan game.

@ IDK's App-tan and OS-tan ideas: even if you can't put them down on paper, I would like to hear these ideas! That's why we have the Theories and Conjecture thread.

@ The DA Club: Yeah, I figure just faving things would be easier for me, and less... troublesome... for the club members. For consistancy's sake I even resurrected my old BellaCielo DA page and posted my pictures there, and am in the process of deleting my pictures from the club account.

As you said, collaborations, club ID pictures, etc. can be directly uploaded.

[NejinOniwa]

Alright, now for some topicless stuff.
I. HATE. BURIALS.
And churches in general, but burials feel like getting strangled for an hour straight. My throat fukken hurts now. Also I was the photographer-in-charge, so I couldn't just stay away and out of sight, either.

Rrg.

[Tsubashi]

So you prefer cremations? ^.^

Weddings are worse when you are a "professional videographer" and don't know anyone. Even worse when you are the stand-in videographer because your friend the "professional" fell ill but can't miss the appointment because they are a really high paying customer. Then you have to pretend you know everything, hope you do it right and make sure no one notices you are absolutely clueless.

Yeah... ^__^;

[NejinOniwa]

Well, that's true too, weddings just make me want to puke out of sheer RAGE because of all that...bleugh. No, ew. Do not want.

This case was a bit different though, seeing as it was a friend of mine who jumped in front of a train in the chest. Doesn't exactly make it better, now does it.

[Tsubashi]

Oh, Nejin-sama! I'm am so terribly sorry. I didn't mean to make light of your friend's death. I am so sorry.
*Bows Apologetically*
If there is anything I can do to help. I can see why such an experience would be so dreadful

[NejinOniwa]

Ah, don't worry, don't worry. Nejin, the demon he is, is a cold-hearted bastard, you know. I can take those things. ^^
More so, the damn CHURCH makes me want to...eargh. Ew. No, churches aren't healthy.