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[CaptBrenden]

Actually I can awnser that question for you newyins...



No.


-_- I picked up discs 1-3 today.  I think my ears are bleeding... Normaly it dosent bother me (but come to think of it.. most of the other dubs ive seen Ive never seen in the original japanese, let alone started with it) Of the entier cast I cant say that even once voice seems to match.  Negis voice is the worst! The only reason I will continue to get them, is so I can watch them on my dvd player with the japanese audio and subs turned on... and the only reason Id do that (as the subs arnt nearly as good as the ones done by fan sub groups) is that the american release has many animation errors fixed in it.  There are a few sceans sopposedly that they redrew compleatly to fix problems.

Tho.. while we are speaking about accents... I understand their reasoning and I halfway agree.  The character in the japanese version speak with a heavy accent that is only detectable by japanese speaking persons, but the fact that there is an accent is an important part of the character.  its impossible to translate a japanese regional accent to the english language dubbing directly so they use an american accent that comes from a like area as a substitue to maintain the feel of the character.   No, kitsune was not from the south, but she was from a region that had a form of dilect that could be precived in the same way as we precive the southern dilect, thus is makes sence to use that to maintain the feel of the character.  if she was speaking just normal strait english like all the other characters she would be loosing a part of the character in translation.  Same goes for Osaka.  Actually since I was just talking about it.. one of the things that really hurt in the english dubbing of negima was that they left out at least one accent, ku Fei.  shes speaking perfect clear english like the other students and it is just.. Wroung.  That one didnt even need any substitution, a chinese american would have done just fine.. or at least have it broken english, as Ku fei herself said speaking japanese is hard enough for her let alone english.

On that note, combined with the first note...I have to say it is nice to finaly hear Evangeline speak in a british accent, as well as negi, nagi, and anyone else that is an english character in the series.  Again, being an english speaker I cant pick up dilect differences in japanese speakers, but I wander if they did any accent substitution in the original japanese to make up for the british accent?  

Anyhow.. like I said.. Im kinda regretting getting them, dispite my love for anything akamatsu.. as the english dubbing is pretty bad (perhaps its because they have such a great fitting japanese cast.. Ayaka and Evangeline spicificly had voices that matched their characters perfectly)  Tho.. I did get a little Ayaka fig holding a akamatsu monkey with disc 3. Shes standing next to the Mahoro fig I got with my Mahoromatic starter box. Its mid chibi but still adorable!  (tho another thing is that they massivly changed lines in translation... and they didnt do a very good job of it.  It sucked alot of fun out of Ayaka and Asunas littleboy/oldman complex arguments..cus they dont exist anymore) oh.. and they misspronounce just about EVERYTHING.  hell they cant even pronounce Magi and its an english originating word!! Oh the huge mannity!

However.. I got the first disc of the second Hellsing series.  Now this ones worthgetting.   Finaly, it follows the manga!  heck in the credits they even did some forshadowing and showed glimpses of the major, doctor, and captain.  And the captain looked so bad ass!  The art style is more of a match for the manga as well, same with color choice and such (such as seras having a yellowish kacki uniform rather then a blue uniform) Tho matching the manga, they added in gag sceans that the original series lacked.   The first disc covers in one fell swoop all the events from the very begining in cheddar, to the end of the fight with Anderson. The second disc/ep/ova covers the Valentine brother attack (where readers that saw the original series know that it ceased following the manga at that point) and from there it will be all new material to the screen!  *geeked*

Top of that, I picked up some new manga.. first 2 english books of Rozen maiden.. Already seeing some major differences there.  Cant say i care for the art.. but I expected as much. Its drawn in the (i forget the exact term) girls manga style.. which is preticuraly sketchy.  However, some interesting things to note.. Suigintou has megu from the start, and Laplaces demon is also around earlier on.  Also, Jun dropped out of school and became a shut in in the manga because it was found out he liked to sew girls clothes...  I havent gotten that far yet but sopposedly Bara Shisuo dosent even exist in the manga.. so that whole plot line was anime only.  Tho the real 7th doll does look alot like her (for those of you who saw the anime.. final ep of the second season.. the doll that is glimpsed in the end that looked like bara but the eyepatch was on the wroung side and she had a pink dress.. thats her)

Also.. I dont know if there are any Evangelion fans here.. but there is a second eva manga out now.  I got the first 3 volumes of it.. its an alternate story line.. it follows the alternate world that was glimpsed in episodes 25-26 where asuka and shinji are childhood friends, and a Rei with emotions shows up as a transfer student.  So far its a much more light hearted evangelion with a more likeable shinji.  Tho unlike the original it hasnt shown much of the eva yet.. cirtanly didnt start with any massive eva battles...

all that aside.. Im gonna be working on our manga most of this week rather then heading strait home.  I agreed to stay for a few days and watch my roomates dogs while she goes on a short christmas vacation.. so i have a few compleatly free days to do whatever I want.  Since our new writer is cranking out material it should be no sweat getting something finaly churned out.

If feels so weird being unemployed for the first time in 5 years... it realy hasnt sunk in yet.. it still feels like Im just on a long weekend or leave.   -_-

Oh! and Im getting myself a kitten for christmas!  now that Im out I can have a pet again!!  No suprize to anyone Im sure, he/she will be named MS DOS.  Im even gonna get a custom coller.  Just try to out geek me now!!

[Alfamille]

4 post today and I'm out of time!

A short Holiday greeting for you people!


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[CaptBrenden]

that would have been good in the random flash/movie thread!

[SleepyD]

Regarding the captain's post on accents... He does make good points. I mean, there are things that the dubbers need to take into account instead of just direct translation. I'm sure Japan has just as many dialects as America, if not more.  

As for who gets cast as who, I assume this is a money problem, but most anime companies have only a limited number of VAs to pick from.  I remember listening to the extra stuff on the Gunslinger Girl DVD, and a few people did more than one thing... voice actor/director, etc. Claes was dubbed by someone's wife who had no previous experience (she wasn't bad, I give her credit for that)  

With that in mind, it really irks me when you can tell the VA is obviously faking an accent (doesn't mean I need someone who has a true southern accent, but jeez, at least do a good job). When that happens I need to make it stop. I cannot take it.

And so, I end here. Oh right, Jeff's interest in Hellsing has now come back. ^^

[CaptBrenden]

Ah, gunslinger girl, one of my all time favorites.  Acurately depicted firearms and cute anime girls, combined with artistic storytelling and beautiful artwork.  Ah I wish they would make more -_- Tho I wonder what the japanese VA's do about the italian accents?

Thats definitly true about having to reuse actors... Negima is definitly guilty of it.  But with 31 some on girls to play I can see the reason for doing that...  Like Chachamaru, chachazero and Chiu are done by the same actress.. tho she gave chachamaru an english accent to match Evangeline.

Yes, much Hellsing goodness for Jeff!  Cant wait for disc 3 where they Introduce the Merc captain!  That guy dispite his lack of an insanely huge gun like the rest of the cast is quite pimp.

anyhow Im not off to a local winter solstec (or however you spell it) party..  caio!

[Aurora Borealis]

Chachamaru has an English accent?! I thought she would have sort of a robotic sounding voice with no accent (which I think would have suited her best). Must watch more of Negima dub...

Well at least that's not as bad as Negi having an English Accent. He's Welsh, darnit!

[CaptBrenden]

Well its still flat and monotone, and she speaks in ways like a robot would I assume.. just she dosent have any electronic sound to it.. shes just got that distinctly british accent to her (I honestly couldnt tell the differnce between one from whales and whot not if you asked me too -_-)  Tho I dont remember chachazero having one... but she showed up so very shortly... Since the end of the series deviated from Mr Akamatsus work she didnt get to show up again.. as where she becomes a fairly common character in the manga (hanging out with chamo most of the time... they seem to be quite good friends)

actually that reminds me of a dojin I saw where eva left chachazero in the classroom one night, and the cursed little doll had Sayo chan all terrified and she was crying to Asakura the next day about it.. it was quite funny.

There was another part in it where eva was lounging around, and she says something to negi about since he had seen her in both forms, which one did he prefer? and He said her younger form I or something, and she seemed pleased.. till chachazero says something about "good thing his tastes are differnt then his fathers huh?"  And she gets all flustered. Also very funny! Like I said, I like chachazero quite a bit.

BTW, are you watching the first or second series??

[Aurora Borealis]

I was watching the first series. When watching an anime series, I generally watch the first one first even if there is another series after it. The exception to this is when I watch "Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's", which is actually the second season of Nanoha, but I'm watching it first because the Velka Knights (Vita, Signum, Shamal and Zafira) appear and are my favorite characters in the series.

And I know how the first Negima season ends! I skipped ahead all the way to the end because I was curious and heard that the anime is not accurate to the manga at the end! But the second season is weird. How did the characters return to normal- considering I saw the end of the first?! And then all of a sudden, nearly all the girls get a change in hair color and eye color and although most changes look better, IMO, were they really necessary? The only appearance change I disliked though is that Asuna no longer has 2 different eye colors! I thought it looked cool, but then they go and change it!

[NewYinzer]

Just so yinz know, Mahou Sensei Negima and Negima! were two different series. Mahou Sensei Negima was the first telling of the saga, but with more action and fanservice. Negima! was the second telling of the same saga but from a different perspective. Believe me, it's confusing. I looked at Negima! before I saw Mahou Sensei Negima, and I was confused. For more information, look up Negima on wikipedia.

[CaptBrenden]

Yeah.. i didnt mean it was a second season.. I said second Series.  They kinda re wrote the storyline for it.  its only very loosly based on the original work... however I do find its random weirdness to be funny.. tho I hadnt noticed that asunas eyes were now one color.. Actually I have to go check on that.. it dosent sound right...

awww fuckberries.... shes right.  -_- I did not notice... but I agree.. that actuall animation and style of the second looks so much better!  Dispite its deviency and lack of fanservice I do enjoy it quite a bit!  Especialy the chupacabra research club, thats is freaking halarios!

[MisterCat]

Here's the deal:  I've got the complete series Betterman.  Does anybody want it?  It's only been played twice through.  I didn't like it as much as I'd thought I would, due to all the mecha crap and the annoying male-kid lead character ââ,¬â€ not to mention the dopey Betterman character himself.

So, it's just going to sit there pining away and gathering dust.  As you know, digital versatile disks (like all media) are unhappy unless they're played on a regular basis.  My Betterman set needs a new home.

Hey, it's free!  Plus, if you act now, you'll also receive (whether you want it or not) one of those resin statues of the lovely Sai Hinoki.  I really liked her character, but the male-supremacist anime formula dictated she be stuck in what amounts to a secondary role.

I can ship this package on or about 5th January 2007.  All I need is a name and address.  The first person to send me a private message with said name and address gets the disk set and the statue.

;hi

=^..^=

[C-Chan]

Aaaaaah!  Betterman!!  X___x

Sorry MisterCat-san....  ^^;

*runs and hides, and dons hazmat suit for good measure*

[rdhdtwns]

I want Betterman! Pleaseeeee *sends PM*

[MisterCat]

Yoo hoo, rdhdtwns, somebody's not reading their private messages!

;026

=^..^=

[CaptBrenden]

Egads, a ultra rare sighting of the wild redheadedtwins!  


oops and there she goes again.. seems to have dissapeared again. perhaps if we offer some more free stuff out?