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I got mad beacuse I changed almost 15 different style designs for MOS 2.0.

I made hundreds of sketches but I am not satisfied...

I asked some advices from C-Chan but he was not able to help me.

I realized this girl but C-Chan said that is too much similar to MOS 1.4.5...

She is 2.0 pre-concept

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11145/normal_MorphOS-TAN2.0final.jpg)

And she is MOS 1.4.5:

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11145/normal_MorphOS_TAN_1_4_5_Sketch_by_RaffaeleMegabyte.jpg)

So he tought that both MOS 1.4.5 and MOS 2.0 preconcept could be merged into one single TAN...

I do not agreed... MOS 2.0 it is full of new features and many parts are being completely rewritten, an update TAN is sure required...

Here is the list of new features:

http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=9&topic_id=5337&sortname=&sortorder=&sortdays=&viewmode=flat&order=0&start=200

This morning I realized one sketch that I like very much, here she is:

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11145/normal_MorphOS-TAN_2.0_Vanessa_Battlesuit_dressing_6.jpg)

She has only one single ponytail... while the two other girls have bunches in their hair.


Ribbon bows ar important in all three designs beacuse the form of the ribbons resembles a butterfly (MorphOS Butterfly) that is the original logo of MOS.

Now please leave comments if you like more MOS 2.0 Preconcept of MOS 2.0 Vanessa...

Leave also comments if you think MOS 2.0 deserves some changes of improvements or modifications.

Please help...

Release date for MOS 2.0 is nigh and I want to show a final version just in time for the release...  ;010

Thank you for your help in anticipation...  ;hi  ;012

Yes yes, it looks very good.

Although... the first 2 look a bit plain.
The 3rd sketch is starting to shift towards some personality, I like it.
Even though it kinda reminds me of 95-san in her "battlesuit".
I dont really know about this whole "battlesuit" thingie. Might work as a alternative clothing/design but as permanent... dunno. Again, 95-san...

I'm not that familiar with MOS so I cant really say if 1.4.5 and 2.0 should be different designs. Gotta think about the fact that there are several Windows NT's but still only 2 main designs, NT-san and INU-t

Btw, some colors, or color descriptions would be a nice thing...

I hope this helps in some way.

Oooh, good job!

Your newer MorphOS-tan certainly looks much more mature...perhaps this one should be her at an older age, while the first two are a younger version MorphOS-tan? This would be a good way to ensure all three designs are "correct".

As for the version, I agree that they should be kept one MorphOS-tan (like VonDaab pointed out, all the versions of Windows NT have been condensed into two OS-tans). And as I just stated, maybe MOS 1.4.5 would be MorphOS-tan as a young teenager, while MOS 2.0 would be MorphOS-tan as an adult.

Quote from: "Bella"Oooh, good job!

Your newer MorphOS-tan certainly looks much more mature...perhaps this one should be her at an older age, while the first two are a younger version MorphOS-tan? This would be a good way to ensure all three designs are "correct".

As for the version, I agree that they should be kept one MorphOS-tan (like VonDaab pointed out, all the versions of Windows NT have been condensed into two OS-tans). And as I just stated, maybe MOS 1.4.5 would be MorphOS-tan as a young teenager, while MOS 2.0 would be MorphOS-tan as an adult.

Oh no, Bella, please...

I was very precise in the past about MOS-Chan...

As I said in one of my first posts here are her age and measures:

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Age: 17
Height: 1.70 mt.
Weight 48 Kg.
Measures: 72-56-78 in cm.


Age: 17
Height: 5.5 ft.
Weight 105,48 Lbs.
Measures: 28-22-30 in inches.

These obviously apply to MorphOS-TAN 1.4.5

The first MorphOS-TAN 2.0 preconcept was a 13 years old girl... But now that I drawn Vanessa I wonder that she has 15 or 16 years...

She looks more mature because as all step-sisters of Amiga-Sama she is very tall, and because girls nowadays look more mature even if they are quite younger...   ;003

(And perhaps this fact that girls nowadays look more mature than their real age could cause real embarassment if you try to date a 19/20 years old girl, discovering she is only 15...)  o_o  ;012

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Quote from: "VonDaab"
I dont really know about this whole "battlesuit" thingie. Might work as a alternative clothing/design but as permanent... dunno.

I always considered battlesuits as alternative clothing/design...

MOS 1.4.5 wears any morning her seifuku (japanese school uniform) when at school, at home and in the spare time she wears normal dresses, and when she is active as OS-TAN (sorta like Super-Hero) then she wears her battlesuit...  ;010

I applied same concepts to MOS-CHAN 2.0...  ;001  :smoke:

Quote from: "VonDaab"

Btw, some colors, or color descriptions would be a nice thing...

I just realized some minimal color schemes, just as an experiment and I uploaded it here on OS-TANS site.

You can see full size images in the gallery:

Here is the first image of Vanessa in Colors:

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11145/normal_MorphOS-TAN_2.0_Vanessa_5_color.jpg)

And here is Vanessa inserted in a 3D scene at Dawn (just a little joking with 3D terrain programs and cut & paste)

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11145/normal_MorphOS-TAN_2.0_Vanessa_at_Dawn.jpg)

(Please do not blame me for Vanessa does not match lights and shadows in the scene... It is just a little joke pasting images)

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BTW... I also did not made precise contours cutting...

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Nice, I like the color scheme!

Quote from: "Bella"Nice, I like the color scheme!

Thanks for your apprecciation!  ;010  ;hi

I made an alternate color scheme:

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11145/normal_MOS-TAN_2.0_Vanessa_Blu_Sky.jpg)

That's kinda interesting, too...her suit reminds me a bit of Juzo-kun's Gentoo-tan ^_^

Very nice new sketches!

Since MOS 2.0 is very different from 1.4.5, I think you can make them seperate characters although it would be more challenging, requiring their personalities and appearance to differ from each other enough.

Between the two color versions of MOS 2.0-tan, I personally prefer the first one.

Ah good, you finally posted these.  ;)

As I told you in my last PM, Linux work has made me unreliable for just about any artwork, so it's now back to her dad [you] to colorize the MOS-chan's.  Probably better this way, since you already have all the details prepped (down to the shoes they wear) and are in a better position to implement them in your drawings.

If it's any comfort, though, I also had to drop a whole LOT of other commissions work too.  In the end, doing so much stuff on my own burned me out completely.   -.-

Quote from: "Bella"That's kinda interesting, too...her suit reminds me a bit of Juzo-kun's Gentoo-tan ^_^

Really?

Where I can find the screenshot showing that precise Gentoo-TAN you are referring to?

I want to see that color scheme.

I am curious as I was just joking with fill gradients in order to realize a metallic suit that reflects the blue of the sky and the white of the clouds...



@ ALL:

I consider blue (hair) + green (ribbon) + yellow (battlesuit) a bit too gorgeous and hitting the eye...

Don't you think so?



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Quote from: "C-Chan"Ah good, you finally posted these.  ;)

As I told you in my last PM, Linux work has made me unreliable for just about any artwork, so it's now back to her dad [you] to colorize the MOS-chan's.  Probably better this way, since you already have all the details prepped (down to the shoes they wear) and are in a better position to implement them in your drawings.

I am still waiting any preconcept image you made with inkscape starting from my MOS 1.4.5 elder screenshot.

I am very curious to see it even if it is incomplete... just to make some comparisons and to have new ideas judging your interpretation of MOS-Chan...

Be aware of the fact that seems official now that MorphOS 2.0 will be released next june. So I must show to all Amiga community the two MOS-TANs complete and usable for any purpose...

I am too slooowww... GHA!  ;026  ;014

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If it's any comfort, though, I also had to drop a whole LOT of other commissions work too.  In the end, doing so much stuff on my own burned me out completely.   -.-

No, it is no confort at all...

It is sad we ost you almost completely as a reference point in this community.

You were always present and reliable for help, comments, and for realizing your personal sketches and complete drawings that were (and are still) always good...

Now we meet you only sometimes, somewhere in this forum... You are acting almost quite as a ghost...  ;014

But, then it is important that you spend your time for your job and raising money.

Money is important for anyday living...  ;011-(Caramba! Es la verdad!)

Any hobby cames second to any job...


P.S.

Perhaps, if you have any little spare time, can I send you some mail in order to realize an interview for the Amiga newspaper Bitplane, so you could tell us Amigans how you realized Amiga-Sama and how it was born your interest for Amiga?

http://www.bitplane.it/

It will be for the next issue of the magazine...

I hope you will apprecciate this interview. Amigan italian readers want to know more about the OS-TANs phenomenon and about Amiga-Sama.

OMG C-Chan, you could become a celebrity among Italian Amigans! :D

QuoteI am still waiting any preconcept image you made with inkscape starting from my MOS 1.4.5 elder screenshot.

I am very curious to see it even if it is incomplete... just to make some comparisons and to have new ideas judging your interpretation of MOS-Chan...

Be aware of the fact that seems official now that MorphOS 2.0 will be released next june. So I must show to all Amiga community the two MOS-TANs complete and usable for any purpose...

I am too slooowww... GHA!

Alright,... you have been waiting for quite some time, so I owe you at least the vector sketch of her.  I rounded out a lot of stuff, updated her detail, and use fold techniques passed down by Bella-hime,... just to make sure she looks somewhat presentable.

Don't forget that she's just a readjusted version of my favorite MOS-chan sketch of yours, which as you know I've had lying around for over a year.  The purpose of the picture is not just to feature MOS-chan, but the entire living Commodore-Amiga family as well.  That's why AROS-chan is in this picture too, as she's the only other character I managed to work on for this project.

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/MOSchan-AROS.png)

Both still need much shading and highlights, not to mention that the background image is non-existent.  According to my original plan, we have MOS-chan and AROS-chan as so.  Following them is a very young MOS 2.0-chan trotting along carrying a squirrel (Amy), which is why AROS-chan is peering towards that direction (and smiling too,... she usually doesn't smile much).  

Before MOS2.0-chan, there's supposed to be AROS-kitty hissing away some other stray cats trying to join the procession (and make a meal out of butterfly girls).  

And in the background we would have Amiga-sama, Commodore64-chan, ReactionGUY, TripOS-san, and behind them still a boat with the other Commodore-tans.

The setting is supposed to be a bright sunny day, with a view overlooking a bay and a glistening city in the distance.

In retrospect, the project was probably too ambitious for my scheduling.  -___-

QuoteIt is sad we ost you almost completely as a reference point in this community.

You were always present and reliable for help, comments, and for realizing your personal sketches and complete drawings that were (and are still) always good...

Now we meet you only sometimes, somewhere in this forum... You are acting almost quite as a ghost...

BOOOOOOOOO!   T.T

I do appreciate at least you saying that I was helpful and a point of reference.  Do the truth of the matter, though, is that the number of people who thought or think otherwise are a relative minority.  A lot of my time and piece of mind was wasted fighting, arguing and putting up with generally negative consequences to [at least in my mind] doing good deeds. To pour all your heart into a FREE piece of art, and then have it used against me for character assassination, well,...

...Couple that with 90% artistic inactivity in the general body, plus fruitless and otherwise unrecognized effort efforts at funding,... and yeah, that's a good way to kill morale.

Suffice to say, I've grown very comfortable with retirement life, and it has been a lot better on my nerves.  -.-

QuoteBut, then it is important that you spend your time for your job and raising money.

Money is important for anyday living...

Any hobby cames second to any job...

Well point of fact, Linux work (aside from boosting my technical skills, which have translated to better job performance) is not actually making me money.  It's still primarily volunteer work, and I still contribute programming and art to my project for free.

The only difference with that, though, is that I'm building something that many people around the world could find useful to them.  That, and most of my peers are production-driven, and willing to pitch into a team effort despite our very varied backgrounds and knowledge base.  

By all means it's not perfect, but I've enjoyed my time with my development team, and I've learned so much about programming, to the extent it won't be long when I can create my very own professional applications.  The potential for an OS-tan-themed learning game, therefore, becomes more and more possible. ;)

QuotePerhaps, if you have any little spare time, can I send you some mail in order to realize an interview for the Amiga newspaper Bitplane, so you could tell us Amigans how you realized Amiga-Sama and how it was born your interest for Amiga?

I'm not really sure if I'm qualified to do that, though, considering how much I've sidelined the Amigoids.  But if they need something to populate the issue with, and our genuinely interested in Amiga-tan, then I don't think I'll mind answering a few questions.

The only prerequisite, however, is that the questions be posted HERE, so I can answer them in the same place [HERE].  ;)

I'm sick of hiding interesting stuff in the Private Messages, and I also said before repeatedly that I don't want stuff mailed to me.  ;D

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Speaking of which, I'm already outta time.

Sorry Bella & Aurora,.... I know I still have much goodness left to answer for in your threads.  Wait for me.  ^.^

*scurries off*

Quote from: "C-Chan"
Alright,... you have been waiting for quite some time, so I owe you at least the vector sketch of her.  I rounded out a lot of stuff, updated her detail, and use fold techniques passed down by Bella-hime,... just to make sure she looks somewhat presentable.

Don't forget that she's just a readjusted version of my favorite MOS-chan sketch of yours, which as you know I've had lying around for over a year.  The purpose of the picture is not just to feature MOS-chan, but the entire living Commodore-Amiga family as well.  That's why AROS-chan is in this picture too, as she's the only other character I managed to work on for this project.

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/MOSchan-AROS.png)

I... I must admit I am impressed...  o_o

You transformed my poor sketch in a beautiful girl...

You art is really superior...  ;019  ;019  ;019

(http://www.m4d.it/forum/images/smilies/hail.gif)

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Both still need much shading and highlights, not to mention that the background image is non-existent.  According to my original plan, we have MOS-chan and AROS-chan as so.  Following them is a very young MOS 2.0-chan trotting along carrying a squirrel (Amy), which is why AROS-chan is peering towards that direction (and smiling too,... she usually doesn't smile much).

Before MOS2.0-chan, there's supposed to be AROS-kitty hissing away some other stray cats trying to join the procession (and make a meal out of butterfly girls).  

And in the background we would have Amiga-sama, Commodore64-chan, ReactionGUY, TripOS-san, and behind them still a boat with the other Commodore-tans.

The setting is supposed to be a bright sunny day, with a view overlooking a bay and a glistening city in the distance.

In retrospect, the project was probably too ambitious for my scheduling.

Now that is freaking too complex...  ;018  ;022

That was better to realize minor drawings like C64+Amiga you just realized for the gallery here on OS-TAN, and then leave your big project for the future, finishing it, little by little, as a fresco painting...

Believe me... C64+Amiga was really good enough...

Then... A great wallpaper full of Amiga Characters... Sure it was an idea!

One big giant panoramic one... depicting all Amiga characters... yes it is also good... Meraviglioso (Marvellous, Wonderful)!

... But take it as it should be a project for the future...

Don't exagerate...

Don't you forgot you were full of commitments BEFORE you were engaged into the Linux project?

So why you continued in a sooo big project if you KNEW you could not finish it?  ;014

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BOOOOOOOOO!   T.T

I do appreciate at least you saying that I was helpful and a point of reference.  Do the truth of the matter, though, is that the number of people who thought or think otherwise are a relative minority.  A lot of my time and piece of mind was wasted fighting, arguing and putting up with generally negative consequences to [at least in my mind] doing good deeds. To pour all your heart into a FREE piece of art, and then have it used against me for character assassination, well,...

Never underestimate yourself my young padawan...

And... May the Force be with you...

;001  ;010

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QuoteBut, then it is important that you spend your time for your job and raising money.

Money is important for anyday living...

Any hobby cames second to any job...

Well point of fact, Linux work (aside from boosting my technical skills, which have translated to better job performance) is not actually making me money.  It's still primarily volunteer work, and I still contribute programming and art to my project for free.

Sad to read that...  ;018  ;026

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The only difference with that, though, is that I'm building something that many people around the world could find useful to them.  That, and most of my peers are production-driven, and willing to pitch into a team effort despite our very varied backgrounds and knowledge base.  

By all means it's not perfect, but I've enjoyed my time with my development team, and I've learned so much about programming, to the extent it won't be long when I can create my very own professional applications.  The potential for an OS-tan-themed learning game, therefore, becomes more and more possible. ;)

Well, at least this is really good and interesting...  ;019

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QuotePerhaps, if you have any little spare time, can I send you some mail in order to realize an interview for the Amiga newspaper Bitplane, so you could tell us Amigans how you realized Amiga-Sama and how it was born your interest for Amiga?

I'm not really sure if I'm qualified to do that, though, considering how much I've sidelined the Amigoids.  But if they need something to populate the issue with, and our genuinely interested in Amiga-tan, then I don't think I'll mind answering a few questions.

AROS site interviewed last month another artist that made Amiga great, Eric Schwartz...

He created Amy the Squirrel that was almost forgotten except in Amiga little niche of the computer market...

With Amiga-Sama you gave the Amiga new visibility beacuse OS-TANs are present also in international places like Wikipedia, and it will be visible almost forever (or until it will exist the WEB...)

Read it here:

http://arosshow.blogspot.com/2008/05/eric-schwartz-interview.html

Have you read it?

It is interesting and it is just kinda like I intend to interview you...

Bitplane Italia magazine it is bi-monthly interviewing persons who made Amiga famous...

And believe me, you gave a little but significant visibility to Amiga.

You deserve this interview and also the most interesting thing for amigan readers is the fact that you were never (and still are not) an Amigan User...

Italian readers will read the interview in the magazine, and Amigans worldwide will read it in English language online...

The topic it is very intriguing... So please don't be so shy...

Why are you so shy?

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The only prerequisite, however, is that the questions be posted HERE, so I can answer them in the same place [HERE].  ;)

No problems at all for me...

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I'm sick of hiding interesting stuff in the Private Messages, and I also said before repeatedly that I don't want stuff mailed to me.  ;D

Hiding what? it was just private briefing between two artists working at same project...

Perhaps had had you wanted to generate tons of messages, topics and comments about Amiga, MorphOS, etcetera, and a whole of traffic here on OS-Tans?

The moderators had had kicked out of forum both of us because of our talking only regarding Amiga and stuffing all discussions with our "very intelligent" comments we made each other for example regarding "how much tall should had being Reaction Guy"...

(Obviously I made heavy sarcasm when I said "intelligent comments"). ;012  ;012  ;012

QuoteAlright,... you have been waiting for quite some time, so I owe you at least the vector sketch of her. I rounded out a lot of stuff, updated her detail, and use fold techniques passed down by Bella-hime,... just to make sure she looks somewhat presentable.

Don't forget that she's just a readjusted version of my favorite MOS-chan sketch of yours, which as you know I've had lying around for over a year. The purpose of the picture is not just to feature MOS-chan, but the entire living Commodore-Amiga family as well. That's why AROS-chan is in this picture too, as she's the only other character I managed to work on for this project.

Beautiful! I see the improvements to MOS-chan, while still staying true to Raffaele's original sketch. And AROS-chan is just too darned adorable! I mean, I just want to reach in and squeeze her checks or something @.@

And thanks for trying some of my fold techniques :)

QuoteBoth still need much shading and highlights, not to mention that the background image is non-existent. According to my original plan, we have MOS-chan and AROS-chan as so. Following them is a very young MOS 2.0-chan trotting along carrying a squirrel (Amy), which is why AROS-chan is peering towards that direction (and smiling too,... she usually doesn't smile much).

Before MOS2.0-chan, there's supposed to be AROS-kitty hissing away some other stray cats trying to join the procession (and make a meal out of butterfly girls).

And in the background we would have Amiga-sama, Commodore64-chan, ReactionGUY, TripOS-san, and behind them still a boat with the other Commodore-tans.

The setting is supposed to be a bright sunny day, with a view overlooking a bay and a glistening city in the distance.

In retrospect, the project was probably too ambitious for my scheduling. -___-

This sounds like an incredible idea! But...with all due respect, this would be like the Spruce Goose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-4_Hercules) of pictures (in other words, very ambitious and difficult to finish). But still...that would have been awesome...

BTW, who is this ReactionGUY?

QuoteBOOOOOOOOO! T.T

I do appreciate at least you saying that I was helpful and a point of reference. Do the truth of the matter, though, is that the number of people who thought or think otherwise are a relative minority. A lot of my time and piece of mind was wasted fighting, arguing and putting up with generally negative consequences to [at least in my mind] doing good deeds. To pour all your heart into a FREE piece of art, and then have it used against me for character assassination, well,...

...Couple that with 90% artistic inactivity in the general body, plus fruitless and otherwise unrecognized effort efforts at funding,... and yeah, that's a good way to kill morale.

Suffice to say, I've grown very comfortable with retirement life, and it has been a lot better on my nerves. -.-

You have to focus on the people that appreciate your good deeds. Of course there are going to be those whom you don't get along with, (this I know all too well), both online and in real life. You just have to put that out of your mind. To quote a Mama Cass song...you've got to make your own kind of music. And sing your own song, even if nobody else sings along.

That said, I did have a similar experience at a previous forum I posted at; while I wasn't disliked...for the most part...I didn't feel I was getting the recognition I deserved and I was quite the "outsider". Probably why I've adopted my current rather laid-back mindset... : |

QuoteI'm not really sure if I'm qualified to do that, though, considering how much I've sidelined the Amigoids. But if they need something to populate the issue with, and our genuinely interested in Amiga-tan, then I don't think I'll mind answering a few questions.

The only prerequisite, however, is that the questions be posted HERE, so I can answer them in the same place [HERE].

This would be so awesome! :D

QuoteI... I must admit I am impressed...

You transformed my poor sketch in a beautiful girl...

You art is really superior...

Now, now, don't say that. C-Chan has his style of art and you have yours. I don't think it's fair to compare art styles to one another ;)

QuoteThat was better to realize minor drawings like C64+Amiga you just realized for the gallery here on OS-TAN, and then leave your big project for the future, finishing it, little by little, as a fresco painting...

Very well put; the only way a drawing like that could be done is one bit at a time...

QuoteAROS site interviewed last month another artist that made Amiga great, Eric Schwartz...

He created Amy the Squirrel that was almost forgotten except in Amiga little niche of the computer market...

With Amiga-Sama you gave the Amiga new visibility beacuse OS-TANs are present also in international places like Wikipedia, and it will be visible almost forever (or until it will exist the WEB...)

Read it here:

http://arosshow.blogspot.com/2008/05/eric-schwartz-interview.html

That was an interesting interview! I didn't know Eric Schwartz made the AROS kitty...nor did I know he's also a Transformers fan ^_^

SO CUUUUUUUTE! *glomps MOS-chan and AROS-chan* :D  

You've got one insanely ambitious idea there and even though it is only in its very early stages, it is still pure cute and winnage! But when/if finished, it will be... An epic OS-tan picture for the ages, man! Don't give up on it! I've done a super ambitious picture before (the Apple ][ 30th anniversary one) but completely gave up on it due to running out of inspiration and that it was months late anyways. So take it easy and do not try and have a deadline.

Mmmh... Scrumptious.     Good work and they're lovely.  

As earlier, anything Amiga related is instant win.  :D

I asked "Bitplane magazine" representatives if there is interest about such an interview, and I received a "go on".

Then they will read my interview with C-Chan and will decide if it is good stuff enough to be published...

But I think they will publish it... I had another interview with Fabio Alemagna, one of the developers of AROS and they published it (in issue 10) because my interview was superb and professional...  ;010  :smoke:

So then...


@ all and @ moderators:

Should I start this interview here in this thread, or I should create a new one just related to the "interview with C-Chan" topic?

Ah, good timing.
I was busy at home and programming, but have some time this evening.

Regarding your question:  the general rule of thumb is, "the fewer threads the better".  As long as the interview is held here in your thread, everything's as good as gravy.  There is no rule against lengthy posts -- just GIANT pictures (in a non-picture thread), LOTS of pictures (in a single post), and of course illegitimate content (such as piracy or porn).

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Speaking of which, I'll respond to the prior posts momentarily.  ;)

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QuoteI... I must admit I am impressed...  

You transformed my poor sketch in a beautiful girl...

You art is really superior...    

Well thanks, but I do agree with Bella-hime.  I've always looked down on notions of "inferior/superior" artwork, because that's not what we need.  What we need is "quantity" -- we need everyone to contribute artwork frequently and consistently, despite the initial quality.  I feel that part of the strength behind the Japanese art boards lies in the fact that nearly everyone contributes, regardless of artistic skill (which will inevitably evolve over time with the added practice).

It's a common belief among my peers [not here] that because the Japanese produce "superior" artwork, there's no point in drawing at all since their drawings will "suck" either way and it's better to leave art to the "big boys".  A self-centered person might see this as an opportunity to become a big fish in a small pond,...

But someone a bit more socially-conscious might see this rampant Defeatism as a "disease", and one's artwork as just contributing to make it worse.  You can imagine where I think I fall into.  :(

People who draw frequently, positively and fantastically are my heroines.  :)
Since I don't draw much or contribute much anymore, I'm just an old "Has-Been" now -- it's not false modesty, just plain fact.  ;)

About the drawing, though, what are your thoughts on AROS-chan?  

QuoteDon't exagerate...

Don't you forgot you were full of commitments BEFORE you were engaged into the Linux project?

So why you continued in a sooo big project if you KNEW you could not finish it?  

It's called being "Macho".  ;)

Think of it as an old adventurer still desperately clinging to exciting pastimes, even well past his prime.  It was hard for me to admit that I had lost my spark, so I kept trying to pursue more pictures to see if one could jumpstart my battery.  It never came,...and once I got hooked on BASH scripting, I had to finally admit I just wasn't the same pig as before.

Since MOS-chan 2.0 is out next month, I figure I can probably still add her to the picture at least (I still need to draw Amy-chan in some way).  But once done, I'll finish up the picture, lock it up, and publish it as Final -- just so you can at least have something more concrete to show around.  Whether I can one day return to finish the background is left up to Fate,... but since I will be Open-Sourcing the picture file, anyone is free to do so in my place.  

As for myself, my overly-ambitious drawing days are over.  :(

QuoteSad to read that...  

Well I am actually quite proud to contribute to the Free and Open Source community.
I may not get immediate financial benefit, but it improves my computer software/hardware skills and knowledge, AND it makes me feel fulfilled and part of something greater than myself.

Besides, it's also self-penance for my years as a pirate,... not for the harm to the companies (most of whom I have no love for), but rather to the people I've helped lock into a viscious cycle of illegitimate software addiction, computer illiteracy, and over-dependence.  It'll take years to undo not only my past foolish actions, but also the handiwork of my peers, which I can see everyday in the drop-dead blank expressions of your average apathetic PC user.  

QuoteWith Amiga-Sama you gave the Amiga new visibility beacuse OS-TANs are present also in international places like Wikipedia, and it will be visible almost forever (or until it will exist the WEB...)

Well,... she was at Wiki for a VERY brief time.  ;D

And yeah, there's always the risk that SOME people will eventually get their way in dismantling the "free" web.

QuoteRead it here:

http://arosshow.blogspot.com/2008/05/eric-schwartz-interview.html

Have you read it?

It is interesting and it is just kinda like I intend to interview you...

Ah yes, it is very interesting, although I admit that my replies may not be nearly as dynamic.  For one thing, I don't use a real Amiga system.  ;D

Inadvertently, I nailed the name of the AROS mascot ("Kitty"), so now I'll have to add the AROS-kitty (the animal version) to my final picture as well as an homage.  ;)

QuoteBitplane Italia magazine it is bi-monthly interviewing persons who made Amiga famous...

And believe me, you gave a little but significant visibility to Amiga.

You deserve this interview and also the most interesting thing for amigan readers is the fact that you were never (and still are not) an Amigan User...

Well I suppose if you can take it from that angle, I guess that can explain why I might be useful.  In that regard, though, Bella-hime should be praised by Multicians for creating not only a drawing of MULTICS-sama, but also an entire deep-rich backstory.  :P

All of this is pure Public Service -- I may not use Amiga, but I don't feel it right denying it visibility, especially when so many OS-tan artists at the time were focused almost entirely on Windows-tans (something which already had TOO much exposure).  Plus of course you know how education-oriented I am too -- I find it very important that people learn about history, even computer history.

QuotePerhaps had had you wanted to generate tons of messages, topics and comments about Amiga, MorphOS, etcetera, and a whole of traffic here on OS-Tans?

The moderators had had kicked out of forum both of us because of our talking only regarding Amiga and stuffing all discussions with our "very intelligent" comments we made each other for example regarding "how much tall should had being Reaction Guy"...

(Obviously I made heavy sarcasm when I said "intelligent comments").  

Hahaha....  :D
No but seriously, I want ReactionGUY to be short.  I despise Absolute Perfection, so if there's to be a Flawless, Perfect Manâ,,¢, there has to be a "small" catch that prevents him from having an unending HAREM of girls that would undoubtedly follow such a Deity being.  

In other words, if you don't want that, you better post up your sketches quick before my version BURNS into everyone's memories.  BWHAHAHA!!  :D

In any event, yeah I want that kind of discussion to generate tons of messages (again, we need "quantity"), and no the mods won't kick us out unless you put in the prior things mentioned.

And if you had problems with them before, it's likely because of so many (mostly LARGE) pictures you posted.  ;)

QuoteBeautiful! I see the improvements to MOS-chan, while still staying true to Raffaele's original sketch. And AROS-chan is just too darned adorable! I mean, I just want to reach in and squeeze her checks or something @.@

Squeeze away.  ^^
But don't forget,... the character design is yours.  `v'

I just gave her a new coat to reflect the new Logo.  ^^

QuoteAnd thanks for trying some of my fold techniques  

Quid pro quo, my dear.  You had the courtesy to read my tutorials, so it's only natural to return the favor.  ^__~

QuoteThis sounds like an incredible idea! But...with all due respect, this would be like the Spruce Goose of pictures (in other words, very ambitious and difficult to finish). But still...that would have been awesome...

And don't forget, that wouldn't have been the ONLY overly-ambitious picture I planned to do.  Still in the works would've been the 1985 Commodore family portrait, as well as the snapshot of the UNIX base, or my rendition of Vistan along with the tiny UMPC OSes.  And let's not forget z/OS-sama.  ^^;

QuoteBTW, who is this ReactionGUY?

Amiga-san's last and presumably final boyfriend.

Raffaele has given me a whole list of male characters that could serve as Amiga-san's lovers.  Despite the fact that I may have a very different outlook about Amiga-san's personality, I do agree that she probably has no-end of would-be love interests, not only because she still has looks to kill, but also because she's unabashedly friendly and overly-trusting.  Much to C64-tan's chagrin, she would literally date anyone as long as they ask her (and aren't obviously evil).

However, it's more a Belldandy-style politeness, and she really has no interest in any of them -- and it shows especially after she puts them to work in the Binteji Renmei fields, building orphanages, doing volunteer work at a hospital, or any number of activities that Amiga-sama FAR prefers over a cumbersome love life.

For xyz reason that I won't get into yet, ReactionGUY is an exception.

Not that I plan it to be an easy love life, though,... despite that they get along beautifully with eachother, the rest of the world seems eager to meddle in the private affairs of such an abnormal couple.  

QuoteYou have to focus on the people that appreciate your good deeds. Of course there are going to be those whom you don't get along with, (this I know all too well), both online and in real life. You just have to put that out of your mind. To quote a Mama Cass song...you've got to make your own kind of music. And sing your own song, even if nobody else sings along.

Okay,... who's Mama Cass?  ^^;

But yeah, I understand what you mean (hey, I did say you helped me stay out of retirement?).  ^^

My mistake, though, was that I introduced money into the factor, so it just made things more unbearable in my particular case.  For that and other reasons, I'll probably cease that until I can be sure a proper management system is seet in place.

Now that I'm in retirement,... for sure, I can just chill.  ^___~

QuoteWell thanks, but I do agree with Bella-hime. I've always looked down on notions of "inferior/superior" artwork, because that's not what we need. What we need is "quantity" -- we need everyone to contribute artwork frequently and consistently, despite the initial quality. I feel that part of the strength behind the Japanese art boards lies in the fact that nearly everyone contributes, regardless of artistic skill (which will inevitably evolve over time with the added practice).

Exactly! I have always enjoyed seeing other people's work...even if it's not the best in the world, when one practices and gets to do a lot of drawings, they'll get better over time. I think I'd rather see a dozen mediocre, but very heartfelt, unique and well-designed works, than one great picture featuring some overly drawn character. You may be peeved by those who don't do; I am equally irritated by those who don't try.

QuoteIt's a common belief among my peers [not here] that because the Japanese produce "superior" artwork, there's no point in drawing at all since their drawings will "suck" either way and it's better to leave art to the "big boys". A self-centered person might see this as an opportunity to become a big fish in a small pond,...

But someone a bit more socially-conscious might see this rampant Defeatism as a "disease", and one's artwork as just contributing to make it worse. You can imagine where I think I fall into.

Oh come on. I think that you have served to inspire a lot of people here.

This forum wouldn't be what it is...our artists would be what they are...without all of us here. I think that we kinda feed off of each other's inspiration, if that makes any sense. It's like something of an incredibly drawn-out artistic jam session.

QuotePeople who draw frequently, positively and fantastically are my heroines.
Since I don't draw much or contribute much anymore, I'm just an old "Has-Been" now -- it's not false modesty, just plain fact.

You may not draw as much as you used to, but don't say you don't contribute much. As for your being a has-been...I don't believe in the concept of "has beens". You have done, which is more than a lot of people can say, and that's the important part.

QuoteIt's called being "Macho".

Think of it as an old adventurer still desperately clinging to exciting pastimes, even well past his prime. It was hard for me to admit that I had lost my spark, so I kept trying to pursue more pictures to see if one could jumpstart my battery. It never came,...and once I got hooked on BASH scripting, I had to finally admit I just wasn't the same pig as before.

When you say you've lost your spark...I've had "burn outs" before. When this occurs, I find I can't even bring myself to do...what it is I do...when this happens. But I guess all artists are different and have different tolerances for this kind of event...

QuoteSince MOS-chan 2.0 is out next month, I figure I can probably still add her to the picture at least (I still need to draw Amy-chan in some way). But once done, I'll finish up the picture, lock it up, and publish it as Final -- just so you can at least have something more concrete to show around. Whether I can one day return to finish the background is left up to Fate,... but since I will be Open-Sourcing the picture file, anyone is free to do so in my place.

As for myself, my overly-ambitious drawing days are over.

Honestly, I think the term "ambitious" is relative. Ambitious implies that the artist has some ambition, some expectation about the picture. I don't think I've ever done an ambitious drawing--if I have, I probably didn't finish it.

After I've done my sketch and I get to work vectorizing a picture, I try to have no expectations. I try to embrace nothingness, as it were. It can go either way; I just try to bang out the basic vector sketch, and I let this set. When I get the feeling that I want to shade it and refine it, I do so; but not until that little inner voice tells me to (ya know, the inner voice of your soul. Not in a psychotic way). But...like I said...all artists are different, so it would be foolish of me to think that this kinda mindset can work for others.

QuoteWell I am actually quite proud to contribute to the Free and Open Source community.
I may not get immediate financial benefit, but it improves my computer software/hardware skills and knowledge, AND it makes me feel fulfilled and part of something greater than myself.

And we're proud of that! Doing something selfless to help others is worth more than any amount of money.

QuoteBesides, it's also self-penance for my years as a pirate,... not for the harm to the companies (most of whom I have no love for), but rather to the people I've helped lock into a viscious cycle of illegitimate software addiction, computer illiteracy, and over-dependence. It'll take years to undo not only my past foolish actions, but also the handiwork of my peers, which I can see everyday in the drop-dead blank expressions of your average apathetic PC user.

Oooh, a dark and sordid past is revealed (jk, jk). And now you're making up for it...how very...Eli Stone-ish (vague TV reference, there) ;)

Can't say I've ever really pirated any software. I mean, sure, a friend of mine lent me his Photoshop disks to install it on my computers...but, I mean...is there a living person today who has actually payed for PS? I don't think I know one. O__O

QuoteWell I suppose if you can take it from that angle, I guess that can explain why I might be useful. In that regard, though, Bella-hime should be praised by Multicians for creating not only a drawing of MULTICS-sama, but also an entire deep-rich backstory. :P

Them Multicians are uber intimidating, though. I'd be ascared to be interviewed by them. But I am happy for any attention Multics-sama may have brought to this remarkable historical system.

QuoteHahaha....
No but seriously, I want ReactionGUY to be short. I despise Absolute Perfection, so if there's to be a Flawless, Perfect Manâ,,¢, there has to be a "small" catch that prevents him from having an unending HAREM of girls that would undoubtedly follow such a Deity being.

In other words, if you don't want that, you better post up your sketches quick before my version BURNS into everyone's memories. BWHAHAHA!!

Too late, I'm already imagining Miggy-san with a short boyfriend :3

QuoteSqueeze away. ^^
But don't forget,... the character design is yours. `v'

I just gave her a new coat to reflect the new Logo. ^^

True, but I haven't given her much thought besides that original picture.

QuoteAnd don't forget, that wouldn't have been the ONLY overly-ambitious picture I planned to do. Still in the works would've been the 1985 Commodore family portrait, as well as the snapshot of the UNIX base, or my rendition of Vistan along with the tiny UMPC OSes. And let's not forget z/OS-sama. ^^;

As I mentioned before, a picture is only ambitious if you make it that way. Even the biggest of projects can be broken down into separate small pictures; one character at a time.

QuoteAmiga-san's last and presumably final boyfriend.

Raffaele has given me a whole list of male characters that could serve as Amiga-san's lovers. Despite the fact that I may have a very different outlook about Amiga-san's personality, I do agree that she probably has no-end of would-be love interests, not only because she still has looks to kill, but also because she's unabashedly friendly and overly-trusting. Much to C64-tan's chagrin, she would literally date anyone as long as they ask her (and aren't obviously evil).

However, it's more a Belldandy-style politeness, and she really has no interest in any of them -- and it shows especially after she puts them to work in the Binteji Renmei fields, building orphanages, doing volunteer work at a hospital, or any number of activities that Amiga-sama FAR prefers over a cumbersome love life.

For xyz reason that I won't get into yet, ReactionGUY is an exception.

Not that I plan it to be an easy love life, though,... despite that they get along beautifully with eachother, the rest of the world seems eager to meddle in the private affairs of such an abnormal couple.

Oh, I see. I hadn't really thought of any OS-tans having...ehrm...lovers, aside from perhaps the occassional crazy fanboy (plus, I mean, we know WAITS-san was fairly...errr...free lovin' and all)

*insert awkward silence*

But is ReactionGUY supposed to be a program-kun or something...? Cause the only OS-tan/kun pairings I've heard of are, like, ME-tan and OS 9-kun. If I were into romantic comdies, I could probably have a field day with the Windows-kuns and some of the more M$-friendly distro-tans...let us be thankful I'm no 'shipper...well, not in  open I'm not. Teheheehee ^////^

QuoteOkay,... who's Mama Cass? ^^;

Cass Elliot was a 1960s pop singer/prolifically quote-able songwriter. Lawl.

QuoteBut yeah, I understand what you mean (hey, I did say you helped me stay out of retirement?). ^^

My mistake, though, was that I introduced money into the factor, so it just made things more unbearable in my particular case. For that and other reasons, I'll probably cease that until I can be sure a proper management system is seet in place.

Now that I'm in retirement,... for sure, I can just chill. ^___~

I've been trying to chill since the moment I took this hobby up. That said, I don't know how successful I am; but I try. This whole hobby for me has been a learning experience, I've discovered stuff (regarding computers) I would have never known otherwise. I've gotten to take flight astistically, like a proverbial bird upon the winds of creativity. Throughout all this, I've wanted nothing more than to have my work brighten someone's day a bit, or make them think, or to make them laugh. I've never intended to make the unknown OS-tans mainstream, to "change the world" as is were; I just want to tell my story. Whether or not that effects others, I guess, is up to them. I'm just trying to...make my own kind of music.

And my deepest regards if I sounded like a stoned hippie for the entirety of the post.  And sorry if I hijacked your thread, Raffaele ;)

I'm feeling a bit of deja vu, although no one but Bella-hime would know why.  ^^'
Sorry had to make you type all that [again],... just the ramblings of a crazy old pig.  ^___^'

Am currently on stand-by to see what Raffa has in store for me, but let me just answer a few of your questions...

1)  No, it really is a dark and sordid past that I don't want to look back on again.  Let's just say that its been very therapeutic being a productive member of society and an educator, rather than the kind of deadbeat that doesn't think for himself despite notions to the contrary.  In exchange I give up a few luxuries,... although overtime, they simple cease looking like luxuries.  ^_~

2)  I've actually given a ton of thought to AROS-chan, who despite being the quietest Amigoid probably has the greatest potential.  I don't remember if I ever drafted her profile here in public, but I might rewrite it again in another thread.

3) You can read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReAction_GUI.
But in short, ReActionGUY stands for ReAction GUI, which is a GUI toolkit for AmigaOS (in fact, its the standard toolkit for 4.0).  Think of it as comparable to GTK and QT in Linux.  ^__^

In essence, ReActionGUY-kun helps modernize Amiga-san's appearance (and to a certain extent, MOS-chan's and AROS-chan's too).  Making them a couple could probably make factual sense, although not sure if the same can be said of my notion that MOS-chan is not particularly "fond" of him.  (A running gag being that she's always trying to convince her mother to dump him in favor of a REAL man,... after which she inserts a long laundry list of colorful-but-otherwise-uninspiring ex-boyfriends, such as Zorro-kun).

4) Sometimes I wonder if I unconsciously beat myself down just to hear you sound like a "stoned hippie".  Sweet kindly optimism is music to my ears.  Thank you very much.  ^.^

Okay, that's all for now.  

While I'm on standby, I'll try to work a little on this picture.
Concurrently, I'm also drawing up bits and pieces of DragonFlyBSD-tan, who is Amiga-sama's biggest fan, stalker and self-proclaimed love interest.

And naturally, she doesn't like ReActionGUY either.  `v'

Quote from: "C-Chan"the quietest Amigoid probably has the greatest potential.  I don't remember if I ever drafted her profile here in public, but I might rewrite it again in another thread.

3) You can read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReAction_GUI.
But in short, ReActionGUY stands for ReAction GUI, which is a GUI toolkit for AmigaOS (in fact, its the standard toolkit for 4.0).  Think of it as comparable to GTK and QT in Linux.  ^__^

Correct...

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In essence, ReActionGUY-kun helps modernize Amiga-san's appearance (and to a certain extent, MOS-chan's and AROS-chan's too).

Not correct...

MOS-Chan and AROS-Chan make no use of Reaction GUI.

They uses MUI (Magic User Intrerface)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_User_Interface

Also Amiga-Sama can make use of MUI if she loads that libraries.

MUI in my mind, is the Interface that let all three Amiga related Chans, to transform in Magic Fairies...

Reaction GUI, that with a word's joke becames Reaction GUY, it is tied (in all senses) to AMiga only to...


Other lover of Amiga_Sama is Zorro-Bus Kun...

Again it is a Joke.

Zorro Bus it is the name of the expansion card slot bus interface of original Amiga Hardware...

It was the first Autoconfiguring slot on the Market (Autoconfig = Plug & Play), 16 and 32 bit wide... It had also DMA (Direct Memory Access) capabilites and it could also working Asynchronously (this means it could work without asking continuously permission to CPU to write in RAM)

As it was so smart, it was nicknamed ZORRO...

And I think that a Zorro-Bus Kun could be an interesting funny Amiga KUN boy dating Amiga-Sama...  ;010  

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Making them a couple could probably make factual sense, although not sure if the same can be said of my notion that MOS-chan is not particularly "fond" of him.  (A running gag being that she's always trying to convince her mother to dump him in favor of a REAL man,... after which she inserts a long laundry list of colorful-but-otherwise-uninspiring ex-boyfriends, such as Zorro-kun).

MOS-Chan never meet either kuns...  ;014

She has no relations at all with Reaction GUY, as she makes no use of that interface library, and Zorro Bus was dropped ages ago with Amiga 4000...

Actual AmigaONE running AmigaOS and Pegasos II running MorphOS make use of PCI-BUS...

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@ All

I realized another thread regarding the interview, or else we will make too much confusion writing here...

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Quote from: "Bella"
And my deepest regards if I sounded like a stoned hippie for the entirety of the post.  And sorry if I hijacked your thread, Raffaele ;)

Well... It seems to me that you IMPROVED the discussion, rather than Hijacking it...  ;012  ;019  ;hi

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Not correct...

MOS-Chan and AROS-Chan make no use of Reaction GUI.

They uses MUI (Magic User Intrerface)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_User_Interface

Also Amiga-Sama can make use of MUI if she loads that libraries.

Well true, it's not the standard on them,... but given that MUI and ReAction share the same ancestor, and given that Amiga can make use of MUI (provided the libraries are loaded), I assumed the same could be done with AROS/MorphOS.  As a Linux example, you can build and execute a GTK+ program in KDE (provided it contains the minimum GTK libraries) irrespective of the fact that 95% of the desktop environment as built with QT.  :)

Whether it would be practical to do so (especially on small, lightweight AROS-chan) is another matter altogether.  ^^'

QuoteMOS-Chan never meet either kuns...

She has no relations at all with Reaction GUY, as she makes no use of that interface library, and Zorro Bus was dropped ages ago with Amiga 4000...

Actual AmigaONE running AmigaOS and Pegasos II running MorphOS make use of PCI-BUS...

Ah, but half the beauty of the OS-tan world is that you create situations that normally wouldn't happen in real life.  Windows ME and Mac OS9 would not like eachother at all, and yet they're shown as somehow a couple.,  ;)

OSX Puma is in real life tossed in the garbage along with all the other early OSX releases,... but here we deify her, and pair her with every single Mac-tan that has ever walked the earth.  ^.^

Likewise, MOS-chan may not use ReAction in real life -- but in the storyline, it would be impossible for Amiga-sama to have a boyfriend without MOS-chan knowing about it.  `v'

And likewise, Zorro-kun was dumped ages ago, but somehow fails to get the message and keeps trying to fish for a date.  MOS-chan USED to hate his guts,... but with ReAction GUY to deal with, she'd rather pair her mother back with the normal-sized, faux-Spanish spouting male chauvinist , rather than the kind and noble shrimp that is her current boyfriend.  ^^;

In any event, I saw that you really DID make a new thread after all.  Guess it can't be helped, so I'll go ahead and post my reply there.  ^^;

Quote from: "C-Chan"

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Not correct...

MOS-Chan and AROS-Chan make no use of Reaction GUI.

They uses MUI (Magic User Intrerface)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_User_Interface

Also Amiga-Sama can make use of MUI if she loads that libraries.

Well true, it's not the standard on them,... but given that MUI and ReAction share the same ancestor,

No they did not share anything...

Are two completely different systems and realized by competitor firms...

Each one tries to became the leader...

But "Reaction GUI" was never released for MorphOS or AROS as the makers of OS4 claim to be the unique heirs of true Amiga...

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and given that Amiga can make use of MUI (provided the libraries are loaded), I assumed the same could be done with AROS/MorphOS.

Amiga can make use of MUI GUI beceause there were realized libraries to load it on Amiga.
MUI is more open than Reaction GUI, that is a very fundamentalist system one...

Makers of Reaction GUI do not want the software realized with this GUI engine to run on MorphOS, neither on AROS.

There is a war out there in the Amiga community which splitted since 2001.

Blue camp, supporting MorphOS, and Red Camp supporting AmigaOS...

Black camp is supporting AROS...

Blue camp supporters and red camp supporters consider AROS black camp as a bastard son...

It is a sort of religion war, you know...

Do not force any story between MOS-CHAN and Reaction GUI/GUY...

You could find that Amigans could became very impolite...

You are adviced. I could not control reactions from amigan fundamentalists...

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QuoteMOS-Chan never meet either kuns...

She has no relations at all with Reaction GUY, as she makes no use of that interface library, and Zorro Bus was dropped ages ago with Amiga 4000...

Actual AmigaONE running AmigaOS and Pegasos II running MorphOS make use of PCI-BUS...

Ah, but half the beauty of the OS-tan world is that you create situations that normally wouldn't happen in real life.  Windows ME and Mac OS9 would not like eachother at all, and yet they're shown as somehow a couple.,  ;)

I consider these facts sure fantasizing a bit...

But also I forgot that MorphOS can run also on ancient Amiga models equipped with PPC Accelerator Cards...

So yes... Zorro Bus could meet MorphOS...

...While Reaction GUI can't...

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Likewise, MOS-chan may not use ReAction in real life -- but in the storyline, it would be impossible for Amiga-sama to have a boyfriend without MOS-chan knowing about it.  `v'

Sure two different OSs could meet each other...

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And likewise, Zorro-kun was dumped ages ago, but somehow fails to get the message and keeps trying to fish for a date.  MOS-chan USED to hate his guts,... but with ReAction GUY to deal with, she'd rather pair her mother back with the normal-sized, faux-Spanish spouting male chauvinist , rather than the kind and noble shrimp that is her current boyfriend.  ^^;

Ehhh???  ;013 What are you saying? I am not capable to follow you...  ;018

Sorry,... only have enough time to dump this here real quick...

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/MOSchan-AROS-MOS2.png)

Had a burst of inspiration, enough to get [a younger version of] MOS2.0-chan on screen, as well as some cameos of Amy-chan, AROS-kitty and one of MOS-chan's butterflies.  

This should about do it for the groundwork -- once I add in the shading, highlighting and perhaps a background with at least hints of the original scenery I wanted, then I think this picture will be considered finished.  ;)

See y'all later.

PS:  Oh, and fyi, AROS Kitty is apparently suffering from LongCat-syndrome.

Quote from: "C-Chan"
PS:  Oh, and fyi, AROS Kitty is apparently suffering from LongCat-syndrome.

Why you said that?

Aros Kitty arms and legs are black on black...

If you enhance and evidence it, then you wull see it is perfectly normal cat...

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(Excuse me for the LAME drawing... I just intended to point the fact that AROS Kitty seems to me quite normal...)

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HOW BEAUTIFUL!

Sure C-Chan made a very goooood artwork here!

Young MOS 2.0 is really pretty cute...  ;019  ;019  ;019

My congratulations...  ;012

Also here I made a little rendering of all three Chans, with Vesuvio vulcan in the background, just to insert the girls in a detailed ambient...

Also...

C-Chan?

Bella?

Can you please indicate me some of your countries most known and beautiful places?

I will search the 3D DEM files and will render it, inserting the Girls in that scenes, to honour your nations too.

I need very known places as mountains, gulfs, touristic sides...

(Something that it is worth rendering in 3D)

I need also the names of the Places, and maybe earth coordinates.

(Well, having the names of the places I could then found coordinates by myself)...  ;012

To C-Chan... What is the name of the famous Volcano that could be spotted from Mexico City???

Hope that you all will enjoy this little joke composite image...  ;010

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11145/normal_MOS-TAN1.4.5_AROS-TAN_MOS-TAN2.0_Amy_Kitty_Butterfly_Vesuvius.jpg)

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C-Chan, please I need an important information...

Is your image intended to be distributable?

Can I use it to show the Amiga fans that detailed MOS-Chans and AROS Chan exist?

P.S.:

Important too...

Can you send me by e-mail or private message a copy of your original Inkscape vector image, so I could continue using vector paint programs to enhance it, if you are too busy with your Linux job?

Thanks in anticipation...  ;hi

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QuoteWhy you said that?

Aros Kitty arms and legs are black on black...

If you enhance and evidence it, then you wull see it is perfectly normal cat...

Awww crap, you're right, I failed.  
She's supposed to look like the famous LongCat.... ;D

(http://www.tkukoulu.fi/~pansio/perno/PernoPress/2008/tietovisat/JamiS/6.jpg)

Ah well, I guess she's fine regardless.  

Originally I had intentions of having MOS2-chan ONLY carry Amy-chan -- however, in order to make the process faster, I had all the Amigoid animals convene on her.  The idea is that, because she's the youngest, they've all endeared themselves to her.

QuoteHOW BEAUTIFUL!

Sure C-Chan made a very goooood artwork here!

Young MOS 2.0 is really pretty cute...    

My congratulations...  

Also here I made a little rendering of all three Chans, with Vesuvio vulcan in the background, just to insert the girls in a detailed ambient...

Well thank you, Raffaele.  :)
Had I known you were going to stick them on a background, I would have submitted a transparent PNG.  Perhaps to save time, I could have you supply the background -- certainly would be faster than drawing one from scratch.  :D

QuoteCan you please indicate me some of your countries most known and beautiful places?

I will search the 3D DEM files and will render it, inserting the Girls in that scenes, to honour your nations too.

I need very known places as mountains, gulfs, touristic sides...

(Something that it is worth rendering in 3D)

Well as far as natural beauty is concerned, you can pretty much throw a dart on the map and find something beautiful.  :P

Somehow I can picture them visiting Palenque, although if water is concerned you can try any of the coastal cities like Veracruz, Merida, and Campeche.  For something more touristy (that's not Acapulco), try Cabo San Lucas for some stunning Pacific scenery.

QuoteTo C-Chan... What is the name of the famous Volcano that could be spotted from Mexico City???

Why the Popocatepetl of course.  ;D
Kinda look like Mt. Fuji, no?  (fufufufu...)  :P

(http://www.americas-photos.com/mexico/images/popocatepetl1.jpg)

...actually, it might, but Iztaccíhuatl's in the way.  Click here for a quick explanation of the legend about the two "lovers":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iztacc%C3%ADhuatl

QuoteC-Chan, please I need an important information...

Is your image intended to be distributable?

Can I use it to show the Amiga fans that detailed MOS-Chans and AROS Chan exist?

Well normally yes, but not that one cause it's not finished yet.  ;)
I wouldn't be caught dead publicizing such a flat image -- already had enough embarrasment when my unfinished picture of BeOS-tan and Viru-tan wound up at +Nijura+ (and took away attention from the actual finished product).  :(

Give me about 2 days, and I can not only supply you with the full finished product, but also a public copy of the source SVG file which you can distribute to other interested Amigans/MOSers/AROSers.  If in the unlikely event I later add Amiga-sama to the picture, I can update it accordingly -- but if not, then at least it can be worked on by others.  :)

MOS2.0-chan is very cute!

Uhh.. Were you really intending for a 'Longcat' AROS kitty? 0__0

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Awww crap, you're right, I failed.  
She's supposed to look like the famous LongCat.... ;D



Also in this photo seems to me perfectly long cat...

Cats have a very long body...

But sure this one in the photo is not a cat with such an exaggerate long dorsal spine, that could reveal genetical disease problems and over-stretched bones...

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Originally I had intentions of having MOS2-chan ONLY carry Amy-chan -- however, in order to make the process faster, I had all the Amigoid animals convene on her.  The idea is that, because she's the youngest, they've all endeared themselves to her.

AHAHAHAHAH! The kohai girl carry all the weights for the two senpai girls...

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Also here I made a little rendering of all three Chans, with Vesuvio vulcan in the background, just to insert the girls in a detailed ambient...

Well thank you, Raffaele.  :)
Had I known you were going to stick them on a background, I would have submitted a transparent PNG.  Perhaps to save time, I could have you supply the background -- certainly would be faster than drawing one from scratch.  :D

Well... I could not resist...

Three beautiful girls and still no background...

And do not worry...

Once you created a png image, it is easy to make big areas of color as transparent...

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Somehow I can picture them visiting Palenque, although if water is concerned you can try any of the coastal cities like Veracruz, Merida, and Campeche.  For something more touristy (that's not Acapulco), try Cabo San Lucas for some stunning Pacific scenery.

As far I known these Pacific zones of Mexico are quite flat, and have no elevation mountains that could be used as really reckognizable in  a 3D rendered scene...

Can you confirm or deny this fact?

Maybe Acapulco has the famous rock on the ocean, used for the jumpings of swimmers...

Should see if it could be rendered well, but the DEM files are not so detailed. to show it..  ;014

Palenque? Palenque, Palenque...

Hum... VistaPro 3D rendering program once was famous for being capable of rendering realistic Aztec and Mayan Pyramids...

And once there is a free version of VistaPro on an Amiga magazine floppy disk...

Should found it in my collection...

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QuoteTo C-Chan... What is the name of the famous Volcano that could be spotted from Mexico City???

Why the Popocatepetl of course.  ;D
Kinda look like Mt. Fuji, no?  (fufufufu...)  :P

Thanks... Some hours ago I found it by googlesearching...

Unfortunately I did not remember full name, beacuse Popocatepetl for us italian speakers sounds like a tongue twister...  o_o

Oooh, you did make MOS 2.0-chan a separate character. SO...MOE...IMA...DIE!!! @.@

I really like the butterfly and squirrel. And the cat...ah, the look on that cat's face is golden (and I love the little tuft of white hair on her head). I really like the folding on her skirt, too :3

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C-Chan?

Bella?

Can you please indicate me some of your countries most known and beautiful places?

I will search the 3D DEM files and will render it, inserting the Girls in that scenes, to honour your nations too.

I need very known places as mountains, gulfs, touristic sides...

There are a lot of very scenic places in America...it would be neat if you could look for some DEM with a landmark from the northeast part of the US (where I live); if you could find a file for the White Mountains or something, that'd be excellent. :)

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There are a lot of very scenic places in America...

Indicate just those beautiful sightseeing places, that are close to your home, please...

I made a picture with the three Alternative Amiga Tans using Naples and its sightseeing, where I live, and certainly I had not used Monte Bianco/Mont Blanc, neither Cervino/Matterhorn that lie in northen Italy, or Etna Volcano in Sicily, unless I had not found some sightseeing places close to my home...

Rome and Florence for example stays each in its own plain, and are not immediately recognized from within their natural reliefs, because there are no relevant points, unless you have an architetcural CAD and then you must recreate all historical buildings...

(Well... Rome could be spotted if you know  it is built on Seven Hills... And by Tiberine island in Tevere river... But very few people will recognize it rendered as natural sightseeing...  ;022 )

Too much work to render an entire city with free download 3D software...  ;026

Also USA are too big to include in various mutiple mountains 3D rendered images the three TANs...

Maybe just Monument Valley is worldwide known...  ;012

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it would be neat if you could look for some DEM with a landmark from the northeast part of the US (where I live); if you could find a file for the White Mountains or something, that'd be excellent. :)

I found this:

White Mountains article of Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Mountains_(New_Hampshire))

What are the most beautiful amongst all these mountains that are shown in the article?

Mount Flume and Mount Liberty seems to me enough easy to recognize to show your place, and also enough beautiful...

@ C-Chan

Unfortunately Popocatepetl is on the lower corner of the DEM file...

I am searching to render it looking from view side of Iztaccíhuatl (Argh... I had to cut&paste this difficult name ;012 ) in order to avoid render program to exit the borders of the file...

I could had joined two DEM files, but I am novice at this task...  ;026

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The three little Alternative Amiga-TANs are visiting Mexico...

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11145/normal_MOS1.4.5_AROS_MOS2.0_Popocatepetl_Iztacc%C3%83%C2%AChuatl.jpg)

Arriba Mexico!  ;011  ;010  ;hi

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LONG CAT IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

-NNG... (http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/9/91/Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooongcat.JPG)

Quote from: "NejinOniwa"LONG CAT IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-
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MEGALOL  ;221  ;221  ;221  ;218

Lulz, did I broked forum nao?

Not anymore, I removed your image tags.  It should go without saying that you exeeded the in post displayed pictures dimentions with that one. dont do it again, esepecialy when its bearly on topic. this is no /b/

SHOOP DA WHOO- *smack*

I saw it coming, really. But the goal was so open, I couldn't resist...

Actually, it just occurred to me that you're using Terragen.  Can't remember the last time I used that application, but do recall I was head over heals in love with it at th time.  :)

Currently running into a few technical difficulties with scheduling, As there are issues with the EeePCLOS init that directly affect my work, so I've needed time to hunt them down and patch 'em.  Nevertheless, even if I don't get done finishing this picture this week, I will be on vacation next week and should have oodles of time to commit to not only that, but hopefully Bella-hime's BSD-tans as well.  :D

(then again, those are my favorite last words... :P )

OMG...I seriously lol'd at that long cat picture!

QuoteIndicate just those beautiful sightseeing places, that are close to your home, please...

QuoteWhat are the most beautiful amongst all these mountains that are shown in the article?

Mount Flume and Mount Liberty seems to me enough easy to recognize to show your place, and also enough beautiful...

If you could find a file for Mount Washington, that'd be great!  ;010

QuoteCurrently running into a few technical difficulties with scheduling, As there are issues with the EeePCLOS init that directly affect my work, so I've needed time to hunt them down and patch 'em. Nevertheless, even if I don't get done finishing this picture this week, I will be on vacation next week and should have oodles of time to commit to not only that, but hopefully Bella-hime's BSD-tans as well.

Have fun on your vacation! Don't waist too much time sitting in front of the computer when you could be out jetskiing or surfing or whatnot :P

Jetskiing,... yeah right....  -v-
My "vacations" really only involve slightly lesser degrees of work.  

In any event, in between watching a few japanese horror movies, I did manage to shade MOS-chan and AROS-chan.  MOS2-chan and highlights are still pending, but at least we're getting there.  ^^

Note that the background was just quickly set up to help me gauge the lighting -- I don't plan to keep it. `v'

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If you could find a file for Mount Washington, that'd be great!  ;010

Here it is a rendered image of all three Alternative Amiga Tans visiting rendered Mount Washington (NH)...  ;010  ;hi

(http://www.ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11145/normal_MOS-TAN1.4.5_AROS-TAN_MOS-TAN2.0_visiting_Mount_Washington_(NH).jpg)

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In any event, in between watching a few japanese horror movies, I did manage to shade MOS-chan and AROS-chan.  MOS2-chan and highlights are still pending, but at least we're getting there.  ^^

Note that the background was just quickly set up to help me gauge the lighting -- I don't plan to keep it. `v'

It is still incomplete...

But I feel like this ->  o_o

And I still continue saying that your art is best...  ;010  ;019

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Wow,... never imagined I'd be compared to Largo.  Haven't actually seen MegaTokyo in a while,... I wonder if they're finally out of that store....  :P

I have some time tonight, so I'm going to try finishing the picture in one quick stroke.  Once the SVG is released, the editing possibilities for you will surely become endless -- although you say it's great, I'm sure there are a million and one ways it can be even better.  :D

l33t t34ch3r c-ch4n?

Lol, wut, sempai. ^^

QuoteJetskiing,... yeah right.... -v-
My "vacations" really only involve slightly lesser degrees of work.

That doesn't sound like any vacation :(

QuoteIn any event, in between watching a few japanese horror movies, I did manage to shade MOS-chan and AROS-chan. MOS2-chan and highlights are still pending, but at least we're getting there. ^^

Note that the background was just quickly set up to help me gauge the lighting -- I don't plan to keep it. `v'

Ooooh, beautiful! This was nice before, but the shading so far is awesome!

QuoteHere it is a rendered image of all three Alternative Amiga Tans visiting rendered Mount Washington (NH)...

Nice job! Thank you very much  ;010

QuoteIt is still incomplete...

But I feel like this ->

And I still continue saying that your art is best...

Now, I think both of your art talented in your own way. While C-Chan may be an excellent vector artist, you have the edge when it comes to sketches. That's just how it is. ;)

Sorry to post and run, but just barely have enough time to put this here before I disappear off again.  ^^

I'm happy to report that the Amigoid family portraiture is now complete, and my services have been rendered.  Here is the end result, with a tentative background:

(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/MOSchan-AROS-MOS2-Final.jpg)
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/MOSchan-AROS-MOS2-Final.jpg

And as promised, here's the special SAUCE w/o a background, to be added, modified and embellished to the heart's content of anyone interested:

http://ostan-collections.net/downloads.php?view=detail&id=120

You can think cute little Open Sauced AROS-chan for the decision. ^^

Sorry this is a far cry from what I promised you [Raffaele-san], but it's the best I can manage in my retirement.  It was very nice reliving my golden days, though, and no doubt I'll do so again shortly when I start working on the other pics that are due from me.  ^^

Thanks again for sharing your characters with me -- it was a pleasure to be able to draw them.  ^v^

Quote from: "C-Chan"Sorry to post and run, but just barely have enough time to put this here before I disappear off again.  ^^

Bella-Sama has plenty of reason...

Try to get relaxed instead of get tired of vacations...  ;014

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I'm happy to report that the Amigoid family portraiture is now complete, and my services have been rendered.  Here is the end result, with a tentative background:

/Copy MOE MOE MOE image here...

AHHH! UBER-KAWAIII!

Where is the place in the background? The Alps? Switzerland? Italy? Austria? Slovenia?

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And as promised, here's the special SAUCE w/o a background, to be added, modified and embellished to the heart's content of anyone interested:

http://ostan-collections.net/downloads.php?view=detail&id=120

OSTAN site does not allow me to download it...

There are no even valid links...

Any image it is only image and mouse pointer does not transform to link...  ;026

Whats happened?

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Sorry this is a far cry from what I promised you [Raffaele-san], but it's the best I can manage in my retirement.  It was very nice reliving my golden days, though, and no doubt I'll do so again shortly when I start working on the other pics that are due from me.  ^^

I am more than satisfied...

You must blame only the fact you wanted a biiig portrait full of Amiga-TANs and details.

This overcome your possibilities as long as you must have considered the fact you were involved in a more important project...  ;014  ;011

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Thanks again for sharing your characters with me -- it was a pleasure to be able to draw them.  ^v^

Pleasure was all mine...

You, Bella and me created a very collective artwork, this remind me of collective literature poems from Japan

(I think it is called RENGA)

Hope to see you soon...  ;hi

If you were in Europe or better in Italy for your job with your brother, or for the job with Eee PC and LInux, then make a whistle...

Gorgeous, Gorgeous, Gorgeous!

The shading/highlighting on MOS-chan is excellent, I really like her wings/hair decorations. AROS-chan is adorable, as always...but I have to say the part that caught my attention detail-wise is the job you did on MOS 2.0-chan's dress! I have to say, you have really picked up how to draw and shade folds well! The animals are a cute touch, as well.

Raffaele, as for your problems downloading it, were you logged in at the time? Because I downloaded it with no problems...

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Raffaele, as for your problems downloading it, were you logged in at the time? Because I downloaded it with no problems...

Thank you...

I downloaded it.

Here is the history:

I were logged... The page was loaded but no link was active...

Then I discover there is a button down side of the page, saying download that in the very first moment was not shown, neither sensed by mouse...

Only when the page was sure full loaded with all images then it became active.

Are these problems common in Opera browser I am using??? BOH??? Who knows???  ;018

Also it appear the Download link saying it is SVG file, but Opera download it assuming it is XML file...  ;026

Fortunately I am enough acculturated in computers and I simply renamed it... No problem. I got it.


P.S.:

About Mount Washington...

Is it recognizabe that the image was a rendered 3D Mount Washington?

I don't know where is the most important sightseeing place from which to see the mount...

So I tried to positioning the virtual camera in various places all around the DEM altitude file, until I found a place that seems me very similar as the place shown in the photo of Mt. Washington from Wikipedia...

I am afraid I could had rendered it as a common mountain without any personality...

Is the Mount Washington in the rendered image almost recognizable as being itself?  ;018  ;018

(Just a curiosity to know if I made a good work or not)