| You are in my realm L33t agent! PSX 3 must die X box 360 forever! Death to the tradior! * holds up ak 47* [/quote]|
Well, the X-box 360 did the worst off of all three systems.
All they really talked about at e3 about the xbox360 is how you can do some things on the xbox live thing for free. They did not talk about it's real gaming abilitys, what you can look forward in the games, or anything like that.
they did the worst marketing for the xbox360, even worse then nintendo did for revolution.
And, have you seen the Kill Zone trailer!?!?!
Thats all IN GAME!
I would love to see the xbox360 match that.
Oh, and the "backward compatibility" is compleat crap on the xbox360 too...
Ohhh, yea!!! my friend showed me the KillZone trailer and i was like WOAH!!!! take a look at those texturing!!! everything runs soo smoothly and the physics were amazing!!!
The sound might not be my favorite, and needs work on...also the flamethrower...but everything else is great!
Have you seen that little funny clip for MGS4?
I saw the funny clip for MSG4 on G4TV. I laughed silently to myself for awhile, then shot my TV for G4TV not showing anything on the Revolution...
Anyhow, the way I see it, these systems are starting to cost way too much for casual gamers, and the industry is slowly gonna kill itself at this rate, but that's just my view. I, personally, think Nintendo played it's cards very well. Do you know how much people are talking about the Revolution now? Almost everyone is wondering what the new aspect of the Revolution is, and if that's not a good way to get word around, I don't know what is. I, being a classic gamer, am very interested in the ability to download previous generation games from NES, SNES, N64, and GCN.
Anyhow, the PS3 and Xbox360 were... eh... I dun like how the PS3 looks like a Refridgerator, or even a grill (http://www.ps3grill.com/
). I was expecting something more along the lines of Gothic, rather than, "Oh, I look so modern that I could probably filter Air". The Xbox 360's look rather impressed me. I was actually expecting it to be a flying sauser or something, but what I saw was SLICK, and the controller didn't look half bad either. Of course, both of these made me think, "What's the price?". Blu-ray is already the most expensive Disk Media on the public market, and HD-DVD aint much cheaper, although the Xbox360 claims Dual Layered DVD, Blu-ray is writable and rewritable by default (I think...).
So... in the end, it's all in the games. It seems that small developers are gonna die out here pretty soon, and only companies that can afford the development prices are gonna live on, even though Nintendo is shouting that it wants to preserve these smaller guys. I really wonder how long the gaming industry is gonna take till it crashes?
Well, I don't think it's going to come to a crash anytime soon. I mean, think about it now. All the kids that played video games are now adults still playing the games. They have the money. But, the kids can't afford the games, so, theres going to be less kids with video games. And, once the gamers have died off, thats when the crash will happen.
Hopfully they will have learned that the price needs to be resonable to survive in the long run before that happens though...
Maybe thats a good thing sense hence that Governors like the one in indiana was being a prick to the video game industry . And the ones who blame video games that cause all the violence which is all truely bull shit . I mean the action people do no one takes responibility and blame it on some one else. So good that less kids play video games let the ones who can take the heat do it .
360 is such a piece of junk...It can't compete with the PS3's cell and blu-ray technology - and the games line-up for PS3 is sooo much better.
Microsoft is only coming out with 360 because they lost so much money from x-box version 1, that they need to try to come out with a new gimick in order to bolster sales. Think - PS2 came out quite a while before x-box was released, and it still got more sales that are still reflected today.
Oh...I forgot to mention. The fact that Microsoft is rushing 360 to go into the market to compete with PS3, shows their desperation to regain lost profit.
I doubt the gaming rush'll ever die down. It would probably shift to a period where older games will make a come back, or companies would try to develop cheaper systems. And, by the time your crash would supposedly occur, current systems would probably be significantly cheaper - allowing more and more people the ability to purchase and use these systems. Companies would probably be watching for signs when the public demand for gaming systems die down, and probably take actions in order to increase demand. They have the option of either lowering prices, or develop newer and better systems to attract the consumer. Either way, the game system will still survive.
In today's society of advanced corporations running production on almost everything we need or want, it is almost certain that we will be tainted to buy their products - including these gaming systems. Human society in this generation are prime examples of conspicuous consumption - entertainment and luxury take a higher priority than the fullfilment(sp?) of basic needs.
OOC: *phew* I could go one with my economics lesson, but I don't feel like it. Plus I still need to get used to this keyboard of mine.
I shall quote the webmaster of my fav site on his thoughts on the Xbox360:
QuoteWe also got to try the XBOX 360. Honestly, although it looked alright and the games where only first generation, its not THAT great compared to the original XBOX. We got to try the new Need For Speed game and got to see someone play Call of Duty 2. The game looked very sweet, but graphically speaking it wasn't anything that a modern videocard couldn't do. http://www.sogamer.com/users/e3blog/
(it's right below the PS3 images)
And really, this is what I thought when I saw it too.
does any1 have the spec for the PS3 .... would be nice to c wht its got ....
Go to ign.com for the specs
er do u know the date tht it coming out ..... and r they goin to stick with tht deign :blink:
I really hope the Change it doesnâ€™t look tht gd.
The Playstation 3 is expected by Spring, 2006, if no delays occur, and I have yet to see anyone like the PS3s Controller design.
Pif sony sony why dont you understand we dont like your control's your damn symbol's and....your damn long loading time plus! you got some okay games but all and all you have alot of work sony to go through before you can really encite my appitite. btw Sony dont try to make better processors cause the mac's still run circles around yours mr I make my errr own processor thats beta! Serious sony has lost it and Nintendo I salute you bud's you keep showing that sony is teh shit and Nintendo still can make out some awesome games aka Resident evil 4 and Super Smash bro's and others. for now I will close this Thread till new information from buying pricing comes out and selling of the units for now sign off.
I have looked over, and have not found any reason for this topic to be locked.
This has been a nice and friendly talk about systems, so I shall unlock
Sweat marks * looking over at the ps2 and the xbox I noticed some good things about them both and bad things I go over the bad things sense I love breaking the facts quickly. Ps2 you suck at me for buying a memory card seriously hate them and break very easily. Xbox umm you suck at for me to buy an extension for the damn dvd crap. Ps2 you suck donkey balls for your damn graphics and beta microchips * some games are good for it alot arent* . Xbox you suck the donkey * censored* for making things so damn big and extensive for it . So thats the bad stuff good stuff is. Ps2 your good at staying in the market for a extensive amount of time since the beginings of just selling transitor radios. Microsoft your good at making some pretty nifty os systems for the custom type mother boards, and putting a hard drive in your X box which is good instead of me buying a crappy 36 mb memory for the damn ps2 . Thats about it from my side
You have a very limited view about PS2...Every year, developers have striven to push the system to its limit, and every year we get more and more exceptional games that - according to many reviewers - rival that of the competitors.
Metal Gear Solid 3, for example. Running of your so called graphic disabled system, out performed the likes of the newest Splinter Cell on the competing system. The texturing, the background environment, and the character design puts the player in awe. While the game plot and story has made grown men cry in amazemnt. The Metal Gear Solid series is blessed to have one of the most extensive stories - it's as if you're watching a movie when playing the game.
You say "some" games on the PS2 are good, but if you get your "good" PS2 games and "good" x-box games, you'll see that the PS2/x-box ratio shows that PS2 does have MORE "good" games. PS2 has MORE "good" games out of the plethora of games released on the PS2 console.
I dont say I diss the x box just cause it comes from a corporation that made a pretty lousy os like ME . Yes I do beileve final fantasy is a huge money pinching crap RPG that should have died a long time ago after when final fantasy 5 came out thats was enough final fantasy for me till they decided to push the limit for it . Now Ps2 I give it credit for making the market good and making the programmers push the limits of there capibilites which is good but! After 2000 things have gone down hill for ps2 I miss the 1999 year where there was alot of good games for it and awesome series . But now its crap to me it lost the rage after final fantasy 11X or something like that. Lets hope to see it promises to deilever the rage once more back in the past with the new ps3 if not then I can say to you Sony get back to making radios and other things cause your Ps games were good since 2000 .
I never said anything negative about the Windows operating system. I do not see why you brought that up, it was never discussed nor debated and has no relationship or relevance toward the topic and therefore carries no weight in this debate between the game consoles. BTW I use Windows XP, and I'm fine with it...I have no problems with Windows (I'm not too keen about MacOS, but that's a different story).
Final Fantasy is one series, in a large genre of games. You cannot base your assumptions on it alone. Oh, I don't think FF5 was on the PS2...Was it even on the Playstation? NO, it was released on the SNES! A completely different platform! You can't compare a 2D game from the SNES with a 3D game from PS2! (only later was it ported to the PSone)
After 2000...Your mental capacity only goes up to 2k...That was a whole 4 years ago! Don't you think the games would have evolved by then? Don't you think that new games would have come out during that 4 year period? In 1999, they still had games like Onimusha for the PS2 (which I really liked), and the graphics for the game were still revolutionary! Don't you think graphics and the games would have changed by now? Improved?
If PlayStation has gone down the drain. Why is it still here? Why are there still people clamoring all over it in this day and age? Why are there still diehard PlayStation fans, when PlayStation One came out like in the middle of the 1990s? Why is there a PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3, if systems like Dreamcast (which was really revolutionary at the time) have faded into the past? Why do you think x-box is so desperate at getting a new console out into the market when the x-box is obviously younger than PS2?
Admit it, Sony now has the upper hand in gaming consoles. They have a larger fanbase, and an way better game line up. PlayStation, in general, has more companies and other third-party developers making games for it that you can just take your pick. The selection is so much larger, because they know more people play the Sony PlayStation more than any other game console.
Admit to what? that sony bought out some things and games faster? ya I admit to that but hey Dreamcast whooped the ps2 in its prime days Only reason why it died was because they made a really bad line up in the begining. And its graphics man it didnt even need a dvd player why need a dvd player when people signed up instantly to the internet playing on the dreamcast. If you remember Phantasy star online which was revolutionary to the gaming fields to bring the internet to the console. Im sorry but I was a bit on the strange side on the note of not playing any games from 2k up I did just that being on the road for a long ass time while typing gets to ya. Only games I do give credit where only resident evil series and devil may cry. You can keep your final fantasy except sephrioth , Seph who dosent love ya baby. Oh ya how come capcom didnt bring out resident evil 4 for the ps2 or what about ID for doom 3. Heres a big 411 it cant handel those games cause its processor is shit unforunitely. What Im surprised is that it can handel devil may cry 3 which was a god send for ps2 peps finally something to be proud of? maybe. On a side note to all of this Only ones that I can see that can surive is the Revoultion that nintendo came out and the X box 360 . Ps3? maybe just maybe lets hope those concept shots of your controler dont end up like that...all bomerage shaped.
To end this I will leave my note to those who are true to Xbox and Game Cube .
Take appart the cd parts from ps2 and its driver to play only the games you like and switch it to trade to game stop or any retail store that trades and get a game cube or x box .
Ps. Dont take it to harsh ps2 lovers your day of your precisous ps3 is coming in a another year /swt
I don't think so...Dreamcast probably had more sales during it's prime, WHEN COMPARING IT WITH PS2 SALES WHEN PS2 WAS RELEASED!!!! And ever since then, PS2 has led the console sales charts ever since then.
I hope you realize that no matter how many times you attempt to bring up an arguement saying how something else that is obviously older and obsolete 'whooped' PS2, YOU WILL FAIL.
Online gaming is so much more user friendly with the PS2. Do you know why? BECAUSE IT IS FREE! When SOCOM II came out, it was on the top of the charts of most played online console shooter. When HALO2 came out soon after, gaming magazines and websites quoted the representatives of Zipper, the creators of SOCOM II, who said that when HALO2 went online, it did not even dent the amount of online users for SOCOM II. (*note* this is not taking into account PC online gaming, which is a separate genre)
Graphics-hardware-wise, PS2 is a year older than xbox, but PS2 and PS2 games are able push the limits of the very open-ended PS2 graphics hardware. Look at Metal Gear Solid III. It came out on PS2, and at the same time a NEW Splinter Cell was coming out on xbox. I can quote from hundreds of gaming review sites and even magazines that MGS3 was shown to have superior graphics than Splinter Cell.
Your arguement that Capcom is not going to release Resident Evil 4 on PS2 is completely false. Capcom IS going to release Resident Evil 4 on the PS2.
|QUOTE (Jeff Gerstmann @ GameSpot (05/19/05))|
|As part of its annual E3 press conference, Capcom showed a small trailer of a very big game: Resident Evil 4 for the PlayStation 2. Unfortunately, because it was a pretty brief trailer with no playable version available, it's difficult to tell how this one's shaping up, but so far, so good...|
The PlayStation 2 version of Resident Evil 4 is expected to ship later this year.[/quote]
On and another thing. Do you know your beloved Namco X Capcom game? Do yo unknow what console it is coming out on? Guess what...It's coming out on the PlayStation 2.
As a side note. If it is possible, I ask of you to please refrain from using informal, uncivilized, and 'un-spellchecked' diction in your posts. It is not very convincing, nor is it professional and civilized, for you to post by using un-necessary adjectives and/or swearing to provide support/defense for your rebuttal.
I forgot to add something that is of extreme importance to the Resident Evil arguement...
|QUOTE (Resident Evil 4 coming to PS2: Formerly GameCube-exclusive entry in Capcom's survival horror series will appear on PlayStation 2 in 2005.)|
|Capcom announced today that the long-awaited follow-up to its popular survival horror franchise, which was originally scheduled to appear only on the GameCube console, is also headed to Sony's PlayStation 2.|
The PS2 version of Resident Evil 4 is currently slated to be released at the end of 2005 in Japan, the US, and Europe. The GameCube version is still scheduled for a January 2005 release in the US and Japan, followed by a spring release in Europe.
In a statement released today, Capcom revealed that the decision to make Resident Evil 4 go cross-platform was based on requests from fans worldwide, in addition to market considerations and shareholder requests. The statement also made mention that each version of the game will be developed to take advantage of the strengths of its intended platform.
In September 2001, Capcom held a press conference in Tokyo to announce that the Resident Evil series would thereafter be released exclusively for the Nintendo GameCube. Capcom first produced a visually overhauled remake of the very first Resident Evil title, which was originally released for the PlayStation in the mid-'90s, and followed suit with a brand-new prequel called Resident Evil 0 and ports of Resident Evil 2, 3, and Code: Veronica.
However, as soon as the deal was cemented between Capcom and Nintendo, cracks started to appear. Early in 2002, Capcom announced that an online Resident Evil title, Resident Evil: Outbreak, was exclusively headed to the PlayStation 2. Later that year, the publisher seemed to reaffirm its relationship with Nintendo when it announced four more GameCube-exclusive games alongside Resident Evil 4. Then, one of them, Dead Phoenix, was canceled, and PS2 versions of two of the other games, Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7, were subsequently announced. Nevertheless, if Capcom sticks to the current release plan, Resident Evil 4 will remain exclusive to the GameCube hardware for roughly one year.
By Chris Kohler, GameSpot POSTED: 10/31/04 07:56 PM[/quote]
I would like to center your attention on the timestamp at the bottom of the article "10/31/04." Please not that Resident Evil 4 came out in January of 2005, while the assumed release date of Resident Evil 4 on the PS2 is in the end of 2005, near November.
Here is the link, if you are not satisfied: Resident Evil 4 coming to PS2
sighs* looking at the resident evil for the ps2 reminds me of code veronica that came out for it on the ps2 ....really lame...seriously not a good come back . As far I would love to continue to talk about my emphasis on video game consoles and how the ps2 is still even now is still obsolite crap sorry bud , but that's just how I feel about it period. Btw Resident evil 4 way better on the game cube then on the ps2 seriously your going to have huge loading times on that bs . Its the same crap they pulled off when they did code veronica X . LIKE OMG 5 EXTRAS MINUTES OF MOVIE AWESOME( yeah right) .
Apart from this said sorry but now I will stop posting on this thread due to the fact nothing is going to get done from this. I got better things to do and run now good bye playstation fan boy.
ps. All three system's are still good none the less period.
PIF YOU WISH
|QUOTE (ShinraKenshin @ Jun 22 2005, 02:18 PM)|
| sighs* looking at the resident evil for the ps2 reminds me of code veronica that came out for it on the ps2 ....really lame...seriously not a good come back . As far I would love to continue to talk about my emphasis on video game consoles and how the ps2 is still even now is still obsolite crap sorry bud , but that's just how I feel about it period. Btw Resident evil 4 way better on the game cube then on the ps2 seriously your going to have huge loading times on that bs . Its the same crap they pulled off when they did code veronica X . LIKE OMG 5 EXTRAS MINUTES OF MOVIE AWESOME( yeah right) . |
Apart from this said sorry but now I will stop posting on this thread due to the fact nothing is going to get done from this. I got better things to do and run now good bye playstation fan boy.
ps. All three system's are still good none the less period. [/quote]
You are so immature and conceited. You posted such a weak ending arguement. If this were a professional gaming review debate, it would be obvious that you had no other tools to argue with. You have shown that you have used up all means to further this debate when you included this statement:
"I will stop posting on this thread due to the fact nothing is going to get done from this. I got better things to do and run now good bye playstation fan boy.
ps. All three system's are still good none the less period."
We all have "better things" to do in life, but you could have had more curtesy if you had not chosen to include that obvious statement. I have better things to do than to argue with you, but since you kept putting up these trumped up claims, I feel that I have the right, the duty, to correct you and save you from embarrasing yourself if you bring up these claims elsewhere.
"Nothing is going to get done from this." This phrase reveals to readers that you concede. You have given up fighting. You cannot continue. You acknowledge to yourself that you lost. I can go on and on arguing against you, but you decide to throw in the towel. Throughout the debate, you brought up easily refutable/counterable statements for your defense that I countered with answers that were more solid and had the backing of other review in other more reputable sites.
"Playstation fan boy." How immature. Since age is almost anonymous here on the boards, unless you or I posted something concerning age somewhere else, we should all consider each other respectable adults.
Finally, last but not least: "All three systems are still good none the less, period." It would have been better to say that one systems is a "notch better than the rest," rather than weaken your claims that one system (xbox) is better than the rest by saying "all are good." All in all, this statement is not concrete enough to be used in an arguement where you are defending one system or another. It shows that you are wavering in your stance, which is not good. You need to keep a firm stance to assure your credibility. But since you chose the "path of least resistence" by stating all are good, you give up your stance and position.
Oh, before I post this:
|QUOTE (Last Shouts)|
Btw I won that thread cause.... * shows badge* I control that fourm part XP[/quote]
"I control that forum part XP"
This clearly shows that you need to bring about some outside authority to try to influence your views and opinion that you have an upper hand in this debate. This is one of the most disgusting acts a person can do to attempt to close a debate. Another instance of this occuring is when you tried to close the topic. That's good we have an admin that understands the meaning of a good wholesome debate.
"I control that forum," is another example that reveals to all that you have been pusted into the corner and have no other options than to use this last trump card of yours.
My advice is that you should have backed out gracefully, rather than include this statement.
I would have backed out myself if you had brought up information that I, personally, could not find away to argue against. But seeing that I have the will to go on with this topic, shows that I am far from backing out.
I have to admit that I too have shown my lack of sportsmanship by posting that little "I win" post. I apologize. I regret having shown a little levity at the end of the debate. My deepest apologies.
Now that I have concluded my final words, you may go on believeing whatever you like about who truly won the debate. I just hope anyone else who reads this will find the claims stated here useful, even though the debate is a bit one sided.