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Title: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on November 08, 2012, 01:35:27 am
Hey! What kind of "Vintage" OSes do you guys use? Do you like them? what sort of applications do you have? Software recommendations?

I'm currently using Mac OS9 in Sheepshaver and Windows 3.11 for Pen Computing in Virtual Box.
I'm also downloading Windows 2k for Virtual Box.

What about you guys?

(Note: i renamed my mac "hd" to Sonata after that screenshot)
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on November 08, 2012, 09:21:18 am
Very nice setup so far, especially Windows 2000. I still use 2k to this day as a compatibility layer for 7 (So I can still use my 15+ year old photo editing software. I love Paint Shop Pro 4)

As for OSes, some suggestions I can think of:
- Windows 95 (Could also be swapped for 98 or ME)
- OS/2 Warp 4 (It can be tough finding this, though)
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on November 08, 2012, 11:33:16 am
Quote from: PentiumMMX on November 08, 2012, 09:21:18 am
...OS/2 Warp 4 (It can be tough finding this, though)


http://wdl2.winworldpc.com/Abandonware%20Operating%20Systems/PC/OS2/ (http://wdl2.winworldpc.com/Abandonware%20Operating%20Systems/PC/OS2/)
10th item in the list
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Bella on November 08, 2012, 11:52:18 am
Ehehehehehe, this is quite the dangerous thread ... I love learning about vintage/obscure OSes and actually trying them out is the natural extension of that interest. As such, I've developed quite the menagerie of operating systems. ^____^;

Just going from memory (since I've surely forgotten some), the OSes I have digital or physical copies of:
-Compatible Timesharing System (CTSS)
-Darthmouth Timesharing System (DTSS)
-TOPS-10
-OS/8 and ETOS (and FOCAL if you count that as an operating environment)
-P/OS (an RSX-11/M derivative)
-Unix V5, 6 and 7
-DOS 6
-Windows 1.0, 2.0, 3.11, 95, NT 4, 98 and 98SE
-BeOS
-OS/2 2.0(?), Warp 4 and 4.5
-Mac System 4.2, 7.5 and 8
-PERQ Operating System
-Xenix
And I have a bunch of source code and/or install media for other OSes, like Multics (source code) and MVS (though I can't figure out how to install it in Hercules)

Via terminal emulator, I've used Tenex, RSTS/E and PRIMOS
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on November 08, 2012, 12:27:02 pm
Quote from: Bella on November 08, 2012, 11:52:18 am
Ehehehehehe, this is quite the dangerous thread ... I love learning about vintage/obscure OSes and actually trying them out is the natural extension of that interest. As such, I've developed quite the menagerie of operating systems. ^____^;

Just going from memory (since I've surely forgotten some), the OSes I have digital or physical copies of:
-Compatible Timesharing System (CTSS)
-Darthmouth Timesharing System (DTSS)
-TOPS-10
-OS/8 and ETOS (and FOCAL if you count that as an operating environment)
-P/OS (an RSX-11/M derivative)
-Unix V5, 6 and 7
-DOS 6
-Windows 1.0, 2.0, 3.11, 95, NT 4, 98 and 98SE
-BeOS
-OS/2 2.0(?), Warp 4 and 4.5
-Mac System 4.2, 7.5 and 8
-PERQ Operating System
-Xenix
And I have a bunch of source code and/or install media for other OSes, like Multics (source code) and MVS (though I can't figure out how to install it in Hercules)

Via terminal emulator, I've used Tenex, RSTS/E and PRIMOS


wow.

and i know you like vintage computers, so i guess that means vintage OSes too.
(i read most of your "adventures/misfortunes in computer collecting" thing in another topic on vintage computers (centered around hardware, thus why i made this topic. for software)
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: stewartsage on November 08, 2012, 03:22:30 pm
Bells has gotten deep into a lot of vintage OSs.  The only ones I ever've really successfully used are Disk Monitor System-8, Cassette Program System-8, Time-Sharing System-8, and Operating System-8 on my PDP-8 emulators.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on November 08, 2012, 05:00:44 pm
cool. (side note: my win2k download keeps failing :c)
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Paul on November 09, 2012, 03:06:27 pm
Hmm, I'm a little on the UNIX side here :)

- HP-UX on the C8000
- IRIX on the SGI Fuel / O2 / Octane
- AIX on the IBM p275 and p285
- OpenVMS on the HP rx4640 and the DEC AlphaServer 1000A RM
- Arch Linux on my primary notebook

I definitely recommend getting an old SGI to play around with IRIX if you get the chance. It's fast even on dated hardware, has a desktop you can't really find in any other Unix and the computers look awesome too! Applications like Maya, Softimage or Matador are fun to play around with and there's a loyal SGI fanbase on the net too :D
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on November 11, 2012, 11:20:03 pm
UPDATE:
I now have 4 vintage oses:
Sonata (Mac OS9)
95-tan (Win95)
2k-tan (Win2000)
3.1-tan (Windows 3.1 For Workgroups)

And on 95 &  2k i have Opera (10 on 2k, 8 on 95)
and am getting IE for 3.1
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: alfonso_rd_30 on January 20, 2013, 10:31:41 pm
how do you have '95? VBoxed?

My only "Vintage" OS would be Saseko in My Old Baby and VBoxed on my Baby
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on January 21, 2013, 12:22:33 am
Quote from: alfonso_rd_30 on January 20, 2013, 10:31:41 pm
how do you have '95? VBoxed?

My only "Vintage" OS would be Saseko in My Old Baby and VBoxed on my Baby

Install msdos with disk support 6.0 in vbox, mount 95 installer disc image, install.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: alfonso_rd_30 on January 21, 2013, 02:41:40 am
didn't work... protection error
Installing 2K
going to dl 98SE
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on January 21, 2013, 03:52:13 am
Quote from: alfonso_rd_30 on January 21, 2013, 02:41:40 am
didn't work... protection error
Installing 2K
going to dl 98SE

pro...tection.. error? idk why that happened (i do know only some versions of 95 would install)
...OH WAIT! XD Dont use the disc image. get the floppy images. and make sure its the newest version of 95.
the oldest version doesnt support very much and is faulty in virtual box.
Also, make sure to have the license key handy. Youll need it to install it. i dont know if you own a copy of 95 or not but its necessary
to have the key. (You can find keys online on forums and blogs. I wont link any just in case its wrong, but a google search is handy)
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Chocofreak13 on January 21, 2013, 04:02:20 am
*raises hand*

until windows XP, you could enter a series of random numbers/letters for the product key and it would accept it. it was more there for show, i guess.

*sneaks out*
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: alfonso_rd_30 on January 21, 2013, 02:33:32 pm
Quote from: DustiiWolf on January 21, 2013, 03:52:13 am
Quote from: alfonso_rd_30 on January 21, 2013, 02:41:40 am
didn't work... protection error
Installing 2K
going to dl 98SE

pro...tection.. error? idk why that happened (i do know only some versions of 95 would install)
...OH WAIT! XD Dont use the disc image. get the floppy images. and make sure its the newest version of 95.
the oldest version doesnt support very much and is faulty in virtual box.
Also, make sure to have the license key handy. Youll need it to install it. i dont know if you own a copy of 95 or not but its necessary
to have the key. (You can find keys online on forums and blogs. I wont link any just in case its wrong, but a google search is handy)


Thanks... I'll see into it laterz
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Bella on January 21, 2013, 03:58:17 pm
Quote from: Chocofreak13 on January 21, 2013, 04:02:20 am
*raises hand*

until windows XP, you could enter a series of random numbers/letters for the product key and it would accept it. it was more there for show, i guess.

*sneaks out*


Huh, i didn't know that. Does it have to be a certain number of letters and numbers? Or does it not matter?
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on January 21, 2013, 04:03:03 pm
It depends on the version. Some are a little more picky than others, but generally you can type in random letters and\or numbers and it'd work, or in the case of very early CD copies of Windows 95, there is seriously an "Ignore" button on the screen asking for the product key, which you can click and it'll continue installing without complaint xD
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: alfonso_rd_30 on January 21, 2013, 04:11:08 pm
Check this out!


(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h131/alfonso_rd_24/OSes.png)

DAMN!! Didn't realize Saseko Didn't Show me as Connected...!
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on January 21, 2013, 04:24:25 pm
Cool ^^

I did something like that a while back on my main desktop, using the Seamless modes in VirtualBox:
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Desktops/goingoffthedeepend.png)
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: alfonso_rd_30 on January 21, 2013, 06:44:41 pm
cuuute... sowwy KAWAIIIIIII!!!
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on January 24, 2013, 09:13:36 pm
Quote from: PentiumMMX on January 21, 2013, 04:24:25 pm
Cool ^^

I did something like that a while back on my main desktop, using the Seamless modes in VirtualBox:
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Desktops/goingoffthedeepend.png)

holy crap how did you seemless Win2k?!?!
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on January 24, 2013, 09:22:21 pm
I installed the Virtualbox Guest Additions. It's quite simple and useful :3
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: alfonso_rd_30 on January 24, 2013, 09:37:17 pm
Quote from: PentiumMMX on January 24, 2013, 09:22:21 pm
I installed the Virtualbox Guest Additions. It's quite simple and useful :3


have it installed, the fluid mode isn't selectable
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on January 24, 2013, 09:41:04 pm
Quote from: alfonso_rd_30 on January 24, 2013, 09:37:17 pm
Quote from: PentiumMMX on January 24, 2013, 09:22:21 pm
I installed the Virtualbox Guest Additions. It's quite simple and useful :3


have it installed, the fluid mode isn't selectable

Yah. And mine wont allow seemless. It "doesn't support it".
What version of VirtualBox you using?
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on January 24, 2013, 09:51:08 pm
I'm on 4.1.22, and have no issues. I honestly have no idea why it wouldn't work for you; I just click the button saying "seamless" and it works :\
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on January 24, 2013, 10:16:32 pm
Quote from: PentiumMMX on January 24, 2013, 09:51:08 pm
I'm on 4.1.22, and have no issues. I honestly have no idea why it wouldn't work for you; I just click the button saying "seamless" and it works :\

(http://i.imgur.com/3zZ4BqV.png)
You mean the greyed out unclickable button? :P
Im running 4.2.4... im guessing seamless was removed for 2k.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on January 24, 2013, 10:25:08 pm
Possibly. I'm always lazy on upgrading to the newest version, since I never notice any change that makes the 100MB+ download worth it :\

EDIT: Apparently it was removed in 4.2. You can install the 4.1 additions to have that functionality available, if you wanted and can find the download
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on January 24, 2013, 11:02:17 pm
Quote from: PentiumMMX on January 24, 2013, 10:25:08 pm
Possibly. I'm always lazy on upgrading to the newest version, since I never notice any change that makes the 100MB+ download worth it :\

EDIT: Apparently it was removed in 4.2. You can install the 4.1 additions to have that functionality available, if you wanted and can find the download

I found them. Testing it now.
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.2/ (http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.2/)

EDIT: Figured out why it was removed >w< 2K-tan and Ai Madobe don't work very seamlessly together. >_<
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on January 25, 2013, 01:42:22 am
I got it working now. It wasn't Windows 8, it was that I had my vbox display adapter set at a 1024x768 flat panel, but my laptop is 1366x768, and it was sizing it at 800x600 for some odd reason instead of 1024x768 too. After changing it to a display larger than that of my laptop, I got 1366x738 available, and now seamless works. c:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZO4u5k3.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on January 25, 2013, 09:28:20 am
Quote from: DustiiWolf on January 24, 2013, 11:02:17 pm
EDIT: Figured out why it was removed >w< 2K-tan and Ai Madobe don't work very seamlessly together. >_<


This backs my theory that 2k and 8 don't get along well; along with this pic and "Windows 2000" being removed from the Compatibility Mode menu ^^;
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x283/The_Real_PentiumMMX/Desktops/windows8doesntlike2k.png)
(I was bored and was tinkering around with the Windows 8 Virtualbox I had setup at one time, and got that to happen LOL)
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on January 25, 2013, 01:29:05 pm
If you notice in my second post, Win2k is still compatible, it just is more finicky. Apparently certain settings will cause seamless mode to be non-operational (On my laptop, that is).

Though it is odd that 2k is missing from compatibility mode (ive noticed that too) and I find it especially weird, seeing as 95, 98, & Me are all within compatibility mode still (98 & Me are grouped as one option {Windows 98/ME}.) Maybe it has something to do with NT? Or maybe its just the amount of software that was released for it? (If it was for 2k, I believe it should work on XP, meaning the logic in thinking is that they just use XP compatibility mode.)
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on January 25, 2013, 03:21:53 pm
No idea, man. Maybe it is because 2000 and XP are so closely related that they decided to drop it :\
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: alfonso_rd_30 on January 25, 2013, 10:23:45 pm
wow... Win 8 is racist!
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: DustiiWolf on January 26, 2013, 01:35:09 am
Quote from: alfonso_rd_30 on January 25, 2013, 10:23:45 pm
wow... Win 8 is racist!

No it isn't. If you learn a new language, no sense learning it a second time for a different country which speaks that same language.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: alfonso_rd_30 on January 26, 2013, 08:05:14 pm
still racism to the elderly... J/k
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: ettanb on February 16, 2013, 10:38:41 am
http://www.oszoo.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Unfortunately as effect of the stupid copyright laws is available only for free OSes... But still you might like it.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on February 16, 2013, 10:55:36 am
Cool. Maybe I can try out some older versions of Linux now ^^
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Goujer on April 15, 2019, 11:51:23 pm
Installing Mac OS 9.2.2 custom version for the PowerMac G4 MDD w/ FW 800 onto a Zip Disk because I am out of IDE HDDs. But my G4 MDD w/ FW 800's PSU died and took the GPU with it. So I have to use a dumpster Mac to do it all while the eBay man fixes my PSU.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on April 16, 2019, 07:32:12 pm
Wow.

In some experiments the other day with one of my old desktops, I found you can upgrade directly from Microsoft Memphis (98 Beta, Build 1400) to Windows 98 Second Edition; which is interesting.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Goujer on May 02, 2019, 10:38:24 pm
Found Windows 3.0 for 5.25" in its original plastic wrapping today for $3.0, but it has clear water damage, and the box is very smooshed.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Bella on May 02, 2019, 11:54:12 pm
I managed to get Multics to boot in an Ubuntu VM at some point a couple years ago ... I should see if I still have that image on my laptop.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Goujer on May 03, 2019, 07:15:10 am
That would be cool to see.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Triplex on May 03, 2019, 10:46:45 am
I sometimes fire up an old FreeBSD VM and see what I can get working. I also do the same with my Redhat 5.6 VM too.
Title: Re: Vintage OSes
Post by: Penti-chan on May 03, 2019, 12:04:12 pm
@Goujer : That sucks. I bought a new copy of NT4 a while back, although upon closer inspection, either it's a very convincing bootleg or Microsoft really cheaped out on the packaging (As the print quality of the box seemed a bit off when put next to other boxed releases of Windows I have from the same timeframe)

@Bella : Nice :O