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Bella

What's past is past. Every country has committed atrocities at one time or another, it's the nature of human beings (particularly those in power, ie, the leaders of countries) and if we went around holding grudges for things that happened in the past, the world would be an even worse place to live in. The Japanese and German governments did horrible things in WWII, as did the American government, and the Soviet government, and just about everyone else involved. Was it terrible? Yes. Am I torn up about it? Not even a little. We shouldn't waste our emotions on something that happened 70 years ago, we should instead feel outrage for the human rights abuses and wars that are happening now and be working to stop those.

Quote from: Red-Machine on July 19, 2011, 01:17:04 PM
It's an American site bitching about asshole Americans.

And at any rate, I was trolling.  I was imitating the people I was bitching about.

While hearing that you're trolling is indeed a relief, I really do hate Sankaku Complex. You just KNOW that they're handpicking the rude comments to make America look bad/Japan look good (as the hardcore weeabootards are prone to doing) - I counted 26 rude comments. 26, out of perhaps thousands of kind comments left by Americans. Maybe if they didn't have their heads planted so squarely up their asses they'd do another "article" showing encouraging comments, but then again we are dealing with a site that mixes (supposed) news stories with articles with titles like "Loli Licking Anime Uncensored!" and "Top 20 Flat-Chested Anime Girls". So I'd take anything on that joke of a site with a grain of salt.

Red-Machine

Quote from: Bella on July 19, 2011, 02:01:17 PM"Top 20 Flat-Chested Anime Girls"

Don't be hating on the DFC.  It's a wonderful thing.
Red_Machine: Flouting the Windows Lifecycle Policy since 1989!

Remilia

I don't understand sport fans. So, losing a game leads to "let's burn everything and break the windows" -game? Fascinating.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/video/2011/jun/27/river-plate-riot-argentina-relegation-video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VzOUKODdZ4

Also, religion, politics etc... Everything should be banned (although things like banning alcohol in Finland back in time didn't really make the situation here any better. Well, now it's legal again).

Bella

Quote from: Remilia on July 19, 2011, 02:28:52 PM

Also, religion, politics etc... Everything should be banned (although things like banning alcohol in Finland back in time didn't really make the situation here any better. Well, now it's legal again).

As a very proud and very vocal libertarian, I am offend. =___________=''

Quote from: Red-Machine on July 19, 2011, 02:23:53 PM
Quote from: Bella on July 19, 2011, 02:01:17 PM"Top 20 Flat-Chested Anime Girls"

Don't be hating on the DFC.  It's a wonderful thing.

What? No, I love DFCs, being a flatchest (32a) myself. That, and I actually find boobs disgusting. Some people can make them look good, but random large fat deposits on chest are really squicky in my mind.... at least imagining myself with them is. But yeah, back to the matter at hand, I dislike the way they presented it. And tagged "flat-chested" under "loli", further reinforcing the sickening stereotype that only adolescents or prepubescent girls are flat-chested.

NejinOniwa

BAN EVERYTHING

Also, Beach trippan tomorrow, MIT on thursday. Takers welcome. Dis week is nice. -w-
YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS

Remilia

Quote from: Bella on July 19, 2011, 02:37:58 PM


As a very proud and very vocal libertarian, I am offend. =___________=''


Should probably have mentioned that what I say doesn't necessarily mean that it really is my opinion on something. I know that prohibiting things doesn't make things magically disappear, it generally makes things worse for people involved. Like the alcohol that I mentioned, or prostitution. Or other things that people have strong opinions about.

Nichi

I'm getting tired of the constant flamewars that break out as a result of somebody bringing up which country is superior. Why can't we put aside our differences and keep the peace, at least on this forum?

Dr. Kraus

ENGLAND IS TEH BEST, DON'T BE HAT'N!!!!


Remilia

#12623
Well, I'm gonna say that my country sucks.

And your country. And yours too. And y - Actually, the whole planet sucks. I'm gonna hitchhike to another galaxy.

And I should go to sleep.

Red-Machine

Quote from: Remilia on July 19, 2011, 03:56:16 PMI'm gonna hitchhike to another galaxy.

I'll meet you in the restauraunt at the end of the universe.
Red_Machine: Flouting the Windows Lifecycle Policy since 1989!

Bella

#12625
I hate how even mentioning ones' country leads to a flame war. /OSC/ desperately needs to learn some social/getting along with others skillz.

For the record: I love America. I love being American. I'd rather die than be forced to leave my country. BUT. I would probably be saying the same thing if I'd been born in England or Sweden or Japan or Canada or any other nation where I would have equal rights, not be discriminated against because of my sex or sexuality or beliefs, be free to do what I want with my body and life, and choose my own religion/non-religion and political system.

Patriotism does not equal believing your nation is "the best". It only means that you feel affection for and pride in your country.

Red-Machine

Quote from: Bella on July 19, 2011, 04:37:54 PMPatriotism does not equal believing your nation is "the best". It only means that you feel affection for and pride in your country.

That's what a lot of people don't understand.  Many in America turn patriotism into a sort of religion.
Red_Machine: Flouting the Windows Lifecycle Policy since 1989!

Bella

Quote from: Red-Machine on July 19, 2011, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: Bella on July 19, 2011, 04:37:54 PMPatriotism does not equal believing your nation is "the best". It only means that you feel affection for and pride in your country.

That's what a lot of people don't understand.  Many in America turn patriotism into a sort of religion.

You know this because you've lived in America for so lon- oh that's right, you don't live here. Don't make assumptions until you do.

Maybe living in the heavily regionalistic and liberal/libertarian New England has shaded my perceptions, but I've never run into this religion-like patriotism you seem to think is prevalent here.

NejinOniwa

Religion is a thing, ultimately, of three parts.
Faith - belief in things for which proof cannot be found, or truths that cannot be agreed upon.
Devotion - the willingness to act upon this belief, disregarding the fact that its truth cannot be proven - the act, effectively, of casting away the bounds of logic from your decision making.
Zeal - the insistence to cling to this belief, and regardless of what oppression or arguments appear, defend it without having logically valid counterarguments to use in such debate - the act of preserving one's beliefs without further reason than belief itself.


When applied in certain ways, patriotism can surely be regarded as religion. But the same is true for most theories held by mankind - it is ultimately a thing of extreme difficulty to absolutely prove any certain truth.
The only thing that differs religious belief from its common, more academical variety, is that despite the fact that it is regarded as "knowledge" and in effect more of an absolute truth than the former, it is far easier for its proponents to accept its falsehood and whatever new facts that arise to replace it. Or simply, the knowledge that anything you believe to be true might be wrong.

As long as we remain without the double-edged sword of omniscience, this will be the only truth that can never be questioned - the paradox that confirms the paradox. And even then, when can we be certain that we know everything there is to know? Can we ever stop questioning our own "facts"?

I sincerely hope we never do.
YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS

Krizonar