Started by Chocofreak13, January 01, 2012, 11:39:37 PM
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Quote from: stewartsage on January 20, 2013, 06:14:05 PMCan I just say the only reason I never post anything productive here is because I don't believe in 90% of it?That's all.So let me say again; SAGE is not a sorceress. She doesn't wield 'magic'. She did not create her own corporeal form.
Quote from: PentiumMMX on January 21, 2013, 11:40:37 AMWith magic in my stories, it depends on the character. Most, like 2k, typically rely on technology and more traditional weapons, while some (Neptune, for instance) do have supernatural powers. It just depends on what I feel works for the character in question
Quote from: Bella on January 21, 2013, 02:55:49 PMQuote from: PentiumMMX on January 21, 2013, 11:40:37 AMWith magic in my stories, it depends on the character. Most, like 2k, typically rely on technology and more traditional weapons, while some (Neptune, for instance) do have supernatural powers. It just depends on what I feel works for the character in questionYes. This. Pretty much.
Quote from: NejCould you detail yourself a bit? Do you reject the entire system of Code, and in that case what do you have in its place? I'm curious.
Quote from: Bella on January 21, 2013, 11:26:42 AM@Stew: You need to end the confusion and write down some details about SAGE's (non)powers. *pokes furiously with wiki-editing fingers* @Genpop: My personal theories on OS-tans and magic is varied. Basically...-I don't believe that straight-up hardware-tans have any magical powers to speak of. I envision them as fairly run-of-the-mill "artificial human"-types. While they do have super-human powers, they tend to be physical and/or mental - for instance, great strength or physical agility (System/360-kun, PDP-10-tan) or heightened intellectual ability (particularly in scientific / mathematical / logic-based fields). -The magical ability of software-hardware hybrids is somewhat varied. Some take after their hardware sides, so to speak (for instance, Commodore 64- and VIC-20-tan are software-hardware hybrids but they've never been depicted with magical abilities to the best of my knowledge). Other hardware-software hybrids are highly magical (LISP Machine-tan). -In my personal OS-tan canon / headcanon, magical ability was originally uncommon even among OS-tans. MCP-tan (circa 1961) is supposed to be the first "proper" sorceress in my canon. CTSS-tan was powerless, but her daughter, Multics-tan, was purposefully designed with a high level of magical ability. Multics' descendants - the Unices, Linuces, and various Multics-like OS-tans - are supposed to be the most powerful sorceresses.-On that note, the MIT OS-tans are supposed to be more magically-disposed than the majority of their other academic system peers (hence the lack of outward magical ability among the MTS, UMES, MUSIC/SP, OS^3-tan and others I can't recall at the moment). The DEC-tans have several magic-wielders in their ranks, however their abilities tend to be less powerful. DTSS-tan and BTSS-tan also have magical powers, although they're quite specialized in scope. Emacs-kun is the only confirmed male, software-tan magic-wielder, however he's a marked exception. -As for birth / creation - again, I envision them as biological and human-like in almost every way (i.e., they need nutrition, sleep, can become injured, etc.), however they aren't biologically human since they don't have human DNA. Instead, the "instruction set" that controls the development / continued existence is "(source) code", which is pretty much analogous to DNA except artificially-created and carrying with it the ability to imbue data-manipulation abilities (which is simply what OS-tan "magic" is). Humans are the ones who oversee their creation - sometimes a -tan is made from scratch, other times they are derived from the code of one or more OS-tans. -The only OS-tans who use a code pool, in my stories, are the Unices and Linuces to a lesser extent. The rest of the OS-tans generate their own magical ability / life force.
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on January 21, 2013, 06:10:20 PM@Bella: For the characters who don't use code pools, is their life force still dependent on the existence of compatible hardware to draw their power from? The code pool the Unices and Linuces have is their a large, shared set of code they can draw from, correct? Just want to make sure I'm not getting this mixed up.
Quote-Apple I-tan's health declining had a sudden onset, corresponding to when many Apple I users traded in their Apple Is for an Apple II at a discount in 1978; those traded in Apple Is were destroyed.-In C-Chan's original concept, Lisa-tan's melancholy state also had a sudden onset, corresponding to the dumping of thousands of unsold Lisa units in 1989.-Commodore 264-tan (originally just Plus/4-tan, but also represents the C16 and C116) is physically frail because the Plus/4's video chip has a high failure rate.-Because of vast amount of hardware support QNX acquired (largely in the form of automobiles, medical devices and nuclear power plants), QNX-tan became one of the most powerful living OS-tans. -Assuming that IMSAI 8080-tan also represents the IMSAI Series Two line (made in the 2000's as a hobbyist revival), she has become more powerful magically than she ever was. Although she can never get her political power back, her gains give her something to boast about to her past rivals.
QuoteI see C64-tan as having a good amount of innate magical ability, since the C64's hardware specs were good for its time. She would also have a lot of spell-books, because of the C64's huge software library, and could do a lot of elaborate spells because of the C64's amazing demoscene. She would use those demoscene spells just for show. I think despite her magic abilities, she would take more pride in the various gadgets and hardware mods she built; in fanon, C64-tan likes to tinker with old hardware. The VIC-20 was an underpowered machine even upon debut, so VIC-20-tan is physically and magically frail, making up for it with fierce training and hot-blooded determination. She would also have several spellbooks, but needs assistance using most her spells (the better VIC-20 software requires the 16K RAM extension).C65-tan is very powerful by design, the most magically powerful of the 8-bit Commodore-tans, or even the most magically powerful of the 8-bit computer-tans. She is never able to reach that potential, being a cancelled and unreleased system. Somehow she is still alive, having cheated death for several years now.
QuoteThe subfield of computer science concerned with the concepts and methods of symbolic inference by computer and symbolic knowledge representation for use in making inferences. AI can be seen as an attempt to model aspects of human thought on computers. It is also sometimes defined as trying to solve by computer any problem that a human can solve faster.