I still want to make one :< I need someone to help me with script and someone to help with programming and someone to help with backgrounds... I can do all sprite and other art... I wanna do it so bad!!
backgrounds are about all i could help with, and it depends what kind of backgrounds you indended. sorry but i dont think i could be much use this time
This sounds like it would be a really great project... I just wish I knew enough Python to help -__-. I was almost certain there was somebody on this forum who knew how to program...
If I can help in any other way, let me know. In the mean time, I'm going to try to think of someone who would be interesting in helping...
Well I don't really want to write a script or do anything technical. I mostly just want to animate cute things... So if anyone wants to think up a story line or make move lists... things like that! Maybe then I can think of story.
Hmmm, I could most certainly come up with a movelist. Of course, I would need to know which particular characters you would want to employ (standard futaba or "extended universe"). Most of my ideas would probably be of the tongue-in-cheek variety, so seriousness would be totally out the window.
Try RPGMaker for god's sake.....
phhht lame.
Now why is that?
Never been impressed with RPG make at all. Your be better off working out of flash if you ask me.
Well, I think the important thing is that it's something somebody here knows how to use or could easily learn how to use. I'm currently trying to brainstorm another program that would be suitable...
How about Game Maker?
Really tho, I think an RPG is the wrong kind of game if you dont have a story. Since you just want to make sprites toki, how about maybe fighting game type? create a few backgrounds, your characters with a wide veriety of animations for attacks and such, get someone to put togeather the script, bam. No real need for story or anything. If you come up with a really good OStan story, then an RPG would be fitting.
(Actually I have a story plot for an OST-tan RPG, and, it's actually moving....)
If you wanna sprite that's fine really.... (Cause I need 'em... And I'm kinda lazy to do em myself....)
I was thinking the same thing, but tuned it out since I've been in this "fighting game mode" all month long. I could definitively dig an OS-tan fighting game though, but I really want to hear Toki's ideas on this, though. That is, where'd she get the idea for an RPG? I'm cool with it and all, just a bit curious...
eHHH.... because RPGs are popular????
Guitar hero is popular, but its a crap game. The important thing on RPGs is story. If your story is mediocer, so is your game. In Tokis case, with no story her RPG would be pretty doomed.
Why not somebody else give her one? That's why she's here, asking for help.... Heck I can actually give her some, if no other negativity arises....
QuoteThe important thing on RPGs is story.
Exactly, you need not only protagonists, but also antagonists and a conflict to resolve. Put simply, there needs to be a point. I'm not here to piss on anyone's parade, I'm just curious as to what Toki has in mind here. Still, I'm all for an RPG, or an RPG-like game. I'm just with Capt-sempai here in thinking a fighter might be easier. Nobody talks about how epic or great a fighting game story is because it's not really there. That's why you don't need an excuse to put Darth Vader or Yoda in your game, because nobody cares.
QuoteWhy not somebody else give her one? That's why she's here, asking for help.... Heck I can actually give her some, if no other negativity arises....
That's fine, even encouraged, but we're simply sharing our own ideas. If Toki's attached to the idea of making an RPG that's fine, and it would be great if that's what she wants to do. It just seems like at this phase things are very tentative, and we're sharing ideas that she might also like...
I know, but I'm weird and see most things one sided so I'm just putting up another side, speaking of which.... I have none.... hahahaha....
At any rate an RPG is complicated, fighting-games easily tires and platformers need work. One last option is making puzzle games.... Of course if you're a nut like me....
Also one needs to look at how one is going to make the game, Flash is good for small games, larger ones should be scripted and made tediously, I know... I graduated Multimedia Arts so I'm taught to do these things....
But afaik nobody likes puzzle games, except...well, puzzle nuts.
One thing I've done - and maybe that's just my highly overclocked brain going into spinoff mode with the excess capacity, but starting off with something pre-made - like making something in RPGMaker or the like - and then using that as a building ground, a sandbox for making your ideas and trying things; and then when you get good ideas as for story and/or buildup of the game you could start building on your own engine.
I like puzzle games...
But with a maker you can't make your own sprites, can you? I kinda want a tactic style RPG like Disgaea because I love disgaea and tactics games.
If I came up with a story it would be really stupid and silly, because I full of stupid and silly fantasies that make no sense. Like seriously, I hate Hatsune Miku because she's cuter than me. Whats wrong with me? Where as I can totally relate to ME-tan. In my head they are mortal rivals. So I could make a game based on that, but no one wants that because everyone like Miku better.
So I am really up for any direction this game could take story wise, and I think it would be alot of fun to work on this with other people! I already found a freind who would like to program and would make music for it as well ^_^ Wouldn't it be fun to have voice actors?
I don't really feel like animating for a fighting game, because I am a perfectionist and the sprites would take me forever to complete because I would not want them to be shitty. :<
Leeks...
The game would need lots of leeks.
Also, one reason Me-hates Miku is the fact that Miku stole Me's signature Leek.
Dunno about that rivalry. (http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/12707/191c22524843cb90c71a34cef35ddc18.jpg)
Then again... (http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/12859/2008-06-10-104257.jpeg)
I'd be in favor of that idea ME-tan vs Miku idea! (truth be told, I hate Miku and her popularity! The Vocaloids have overshadowed and eclipsed the OS-tans! ;030 The OS-tans must fight back! Though I confess that I somewhat like Rin, Len and Luka)
QuoteBut with a maker you can't make your own sprites, can you? I kinda want a tactic style RPG like Disgaea because I love disgaea and tactics games.
Supposedly you can, but some versions of RPG Maker skirt legality... so you might wanna be careful about that. The Game Maker that kaineru mentioned allows you to import sprites for sure, but so far all I've seen made with it are platformers, namely, Mario knockoffs. There's some other tools which may be of use, but I'll get into that next...
QuoteSo I am really up for any direction this game could take story wise, and I think it would be alot of fun to work on this with other people! I already found a freind who would like to program and would make music for it as well Wouldn't it be fun to have voice actors?
Well, apparently we have kaineru willing to contribute to the story, and I wouldn't mind throwing ideas out there myself. Did your friend mention which language he/she programs in? Because their are tools out there for making games that run on specific programming languages, e.g. Pygame which uses Python. From what I understand such tools take a bit of the work out of making a game without limiting you in ways that a software like Game Maker or RPG Maker might, but of course, you need to have a good handle on the language to make proper use of these tools. Well, you know I'm definitely down for contributing voices, but I don't know how many -kuns, critters, or other possibilities for a male voice you'll have in your game (I should also mention that while I've been told I don't have an accent, you may find differently -__-). Anyway, we have plenty of the fairer sex around these parts, but if we have any trouble getting any girl voices, I know a resource to find them (for free!).
QuoteI don't really feel like animating for a fighting game, because I am a perfectionist and the sprites would take me forever to complete because I would not want them to be shitty. :<
Good point, I was just playing SFA3 and I realized just how difficult it would be to make such fluid sprites. Especially if you were going to do the whole "after-effect" shadow thing.
Afaik, importing sprites into the versions I've used of RPG Maker is quite simple. There are (or were, when I used it) numerous archives online with huge storages of custom sprites, tilesets, et cetera, so material-making shouldn't be the problem. More like the somewhat shut-in "making" process which I always found quite annoying and hard to get around, but maybe that's just me.
Nenjin is right so you basically have total control of what you do.... Tactical RPGs however are hard to do, there is a sript that can do that, but I'm not proficient with it either....
Sorry if this sounds discouraging, but my experience and observation told me that this kind of project NEVER works if it is started by someone who can't do scripting or programming, or without an already existing dedicated team to help do so. You can always dream, though.
I won't be discouraged, if we can't get someone who can create a decent platform then we could always just slap it in flash and make it a cartoon rather than a game, but I would like for it to be a game.
I wanna hear Kaineru's ideas ^_^
I couldn't really imagine ME-tan defeating Miku, but it would be fun to try.
Oh, and IanDan-kun! I have two other projects that I am working on that could possibly use your voice talents. I am working on a web cartoon and.. it's gonna be really silly >__> I let my freinds in on the story and they're helping me write it... it's gonna be... so silly. And then theres the 2-D fighter that has been in production for two years now. Sprites are gonna have SFA3 smoothness and awesomeness that overshadows KOF, SVCChaos, and Guilty Gear combined O__O IT'S GONNA. GONNAAA >__< I'm gonna die.
QuoteI won't be discouraged, if we can't get someone who can create a decent platform then we could always just slap it in flash and make it a cartoon rather than a game, but I would like for it to be a game.
As long as we're talking in
eventualities, I just installed this program called "Game Baker", it's very immature at the moment, but it looks like it could at least contribute to my Python education and even introduce me to pygame. Anyway, I'm going to tinker with it and see what I can do. It looks promising right now, but don't expect any progress soon.
QuoteOh, and IanDan-kun! I have two other projects that I am working on that could possibly use your voice talents. I am working on a web cartoon and.. it's gonna be really silly >__> I let my freinds in on the story and they're helping me write it... it's gonna be... so silly.
Sounds like something I'd really like to be involved in, I should probably record some voice samples then...
QuoteAnd then theres the 2-D fighter that has been in production for two years now. Sprites are gonna have SFA3 smoothness and awesomeness that overshadows KOF, SVCChaos, and Guilty Gear combined O__O IT'S GONNA. GONNAAA >__< I'm gonna die.
Sounds epic, but wow you've got a lot on your plate here O__O.
I feel left out, you guys~!
Don't forget, 9 years of profession in musics makes you an AWESOME voice-machine.
That includes everything between Gollum, falsetto and The Deep-Voiced Guys That Announce Action Movies, as far as I've tried.
Tell me what/if you want, and I'll be happy to provide. ^^
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we're really OT-ing the shit out of this thread aren't we -w-;
Quote from: "Toki"I won't be discouraged, if we can't get someone who can create a decent platform then we could always just slap it in flash and make it a cartoon rather than a game, but I would like for it to be a game.
I wanna hear Kaineru's ideas ^_^
I couldn't really imagine ME-tan defeating Miku, but it would be fun to try.
That's always possible....
It depends on the person though, I've been busy making Icons so I'm kinda lazy for those, but you only need diligence for that, if you cannot do some of the work it's best you have someone else help you.
Remember the desired platforms though and making flash cartoons makes some effort.... "Some" meaning little if you have a lot of resources...
I just wanna be an animator o.o; I have plenty of resorces to do so. However it takes time so no one should be worried about anything moving too fast... even if I go with a simple-ish 2D style I still want the sprites to be at LEAST 15 FPS. Because I'm a weirdo like that... and I'll do illustrations for special moves, and character profiles and the like because thats what I LIKE to do. How many characters should be in this? I think there should be lots of cameos but I'm not so sure about actual playables.
I have been playing with some character designs, because I like doing that and I accidently made a Sailor ME-tan. I decided to turn it into a full peice so I'll share when it's done!
Well that's nice, reminds me of Aile Ark 2 that I've been doing, my specialty is always crossovers and story changing so that's my best...
But 15 fps.... ehhh.... I dunno if Imma gonna say it's slow or fast... X_x
Compared to modern 3d games it's very slow, but compared to most other sprite-based games...decent, I'd say. Remember that 25 fps is the limit of what the human eye can perceive.
You're right, maybe I've played too much Guilty Gear as of late....
Curious, what's that got its FPS rate at?
Since it's fast it mostly goes 45-50 fps on my very old PS2....
Overkillu. ->-
Really? It's kinda that fast specially when I use uber cheap Order Sol...
I've also wanted to make some animations but I just don't have the time to do- I'm too busy with my comics! There's only so much time in a day! :(
Join the club.... Though I'm kinda lazy but I do small .gifs from time to time... though hopefully whatever Toki decides on doing will be a success....
WHAT!?!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!>!?! GUILTY GEAR IS SO POORLY ANIMATED IT'S A JOKE. THE DESIGNS ARE GOOD AND THE SPRITES ARE GOOD, BUT THE FRAME RATE IS UTTERLY PITIFUL BUT THEY GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE IT IS SO FAST. It's probably only 10 FPS. Seriously.
Sorry I read that and totally went on a tangent sorry sorry * grasps frantically at topic *
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KYAAAA * RAEG *
Sorry in advance for continuing the OT, but that's what I like about 2D games. You can get away with using a lower FPS by using tricks that just aren't possible in 3D. Also I just like the aesthetic of 2D games, and that's whether they're old school like SF2 or new like Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix (that game is freaking sweet).
Yeaah ^_^ I like 2D fighters the best! However, Guilty Gear is absolutely pathetic xD
Also sorry... Although I started the thread o.o;;
I've only played Guilty Gear once, not sure which one it was - it was at a party. I can't say too much about it because quite frankly I sucked at it. I kept trying sweeps and charges, and apparently that's not how it works -__-.
I also played even less of the Fist of the North Star game based on the same engine as Guilty Gear.
Still my biggest ass-kicking came when I played MvC2. Sure it's a Capcom fighting game and uses the same moves, but the damn meters are all different... grrrr.
Grrr ^_^ Street Fighter 3 has the smoothest sprites hands down, but I think Arcana Heart has some of the prettiest (not just cuz they're all pretty girls either!) Melty Blood is a pretty sucktastic game but the sprites are actually quite well animated... You should play more Guilty Gear!
I think I should play less Guilty Gear... Better, I think I should play less Disgaea.... it's ruining my life. At any rate Toki what are you gonna do?
Guilty Gear's animation is pathetic? I suppose you must be able to do something better than that LOL
QuoteI think I should play less Guilty Gear... Better, I think I should play less Disgaea.... it's ruining my life. At any rate Toki what are you gonna do?
Well,
if RPG Maker were to be used, which version would it be? Bearing in mind it should be a version she can legally obtain as to not violate forum rules.
I'm still curious as to what programming language her friend knows and to what extent he/she knows it, so I can suggest other possible tools to make things easier.
In any case, I would wager Toki will give us some more insight on her next visit. ^__^
QuoteGuilty Gear's animation is pathetic? I suppose you must be able to do something better than that LOL
One does not have to do better to be able to identify poor quality product. I dont have to be a master of playing the guitar to be able to tell when someone is playing like crap etc...
However, one must take a 90-kilometer ski oneself before saying anything about that.
House rules.
_W_
I am as good or better than you protoman!
Meow meow, I don't know what language he uses. but I think I'm gonna get another freind to help... and I'll get him to join the forum too.
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theres an example of my spritework. Not animated yet.
That's fantastic and would make for an awesome game character! ;010 ;010
I wish I could make pixel art like that!
Why aren't you posting this in the cookies thread, I wonder ~.~
Because it's in relation to the game silly. I wouldn't post it otherwise because it isn't a finished work.
Well, doublethread posting works.
Cookie thread need moar posts, it always hungers _W_
Okay I'll post moar ^_^
QuoteMeow meow, I don't know what language he uses. but I think I'm gonna get another freind to help... and I'll get him to join the forum too.
Sweet, the more the better. His participation in the forum would make possible collaborations easier (not that
I'll be collaborating in a coding capacity).
Quotetheres an example of my spritework. Not animated yet.
*starts "This is awesome" chant*
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Excellent! i think Von daab has a rival for best pixil artist on the forum now :P Look forward to seeing more.
I think I should start posting ideas here so this thread moves, at any rate... ehh... nevermind...
I wish there was a master list of all the OS-tans T_T
Well, most any notable OS is going to have a -tan, but the best list of -tans here would be the OS-tan wiki (if it's working again). If you'd like to see some more obscure -tans, go back a few pages in the member intro thread and you'll notice that Aurora-sama has listed a few (mainly Linux-tans).
wiki has all the main Windows tans but I need other OS so that I can consider enemies and stuff.
Well, most factions are present, right? So it could just depend on who you're playing as. Windows-tans consider Apple-tans as enemies, et cetera.
Will there be app-tans (applications) as well? There's just a few of those, however...
I think so o.o As summons ^_^
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Oh, also I don't really know anything about macs
Or to be fair to everyone, have an assortment of OS-tans as playable characters with malware as the enemies though some conflicts among the OS-tans could make for some important plot points.
You don't know about the Mac-tans?! I don't want to totally derail this thread but I could tell you all about them if you're willing to attend my lectures!
GET TO WIKI READING, YOU!
(assuming it's sufficient for the subject)
Knowing all the important factions is a must if you want diversity, you know! -w-
And that's good too, I guess - using armies of viruses and stuff. We'll have to get that machine going again though, cuz I don't think we have enough malware- and virus-tans as it is for this!
I mostly think Viruses should be enemies.... OS-es can get along, but their masters couldn't...
Create an RPG? Interesting!
What programming language did u use, Toki?
We should find an engine that suit your programming style!
Toki isnt a programer, shes looking for one. She wants to do animation/pixil art for it
Yes, apparently she'll be inviting her programmer friend to join the forum so we can discuss such things.
Ough! That's difficult!
I'm still doing my study in programming, and you can say that i'm still a complete amateur in it. ;063
But maybe, if i can be any of use.... feel free to use me.... ^_^
Btw, my language is VB, a little php and javascript, and a little bit of phyton!
That's common? Yeah!
Don't expect too much! My course is database and ARN after all!
kyahaha even I know VB ^_^ it sucks though I don't want anything to do with it! * kicks it *
... o.o I invited mah frund but he's not here yet I guess
I'm a Delphi Pascal man myself...for now...
I am thinking about making my own versions of the OS-tans... like keeping their general human appearance but perhaps giving them modified costumes...
humm, alt costumes would be okay, but I dun think you should leave out the original costumes ; _ ;
Quotekyahaha even I know VB it sucks though I don't want anything to do with it! * kicks it *
I shouldn't have said anything.....
*sulking*
(http://kamechuan.oxyhost.com/img/sulk.jpg)
QuoteI'm a Delphi Pascal man myself...for now...
Pascal is my first language... i don't like it too much, that's why i left it.... ^.^
Quotehumm, alt costumes would be okay, but I dun think you should leave out the original costumes ; _ ;
I agree! Every os-tan has her own personality based on the os personality itself, changing her/his appearance is okay but don't make it to degree that can make she/he lost her/his own personality.... Hmmm... that's what i think..... at leat.....
Well. It's all personification anyhow. I will post my ideas when I can gets a scanner.
I remember making an app-tan and site-tan myself... hahahaha....
Heck, I also need a scanner....
Looks like using tablet is more efficient....
Don't need scanner, drawing paper, drawing pencil, ink, oil color, eraser, etc.
Only need a tablet and dependable drawing software....^.^
The only problem is the price.... ugh.... high.....
Tell me about it, here in where I am it's ridiculously expensive..... You can buy a small house here with that kind of money....
I have a tablet, but I am not nearly as proficient with it as I am with pencil and paper. Also my tablet is old and full of wear from the previous owner... Paper is much more easy for me to record ideas. Besides the very thought of disowning traditional media is nearly... blasphemous. I don't think this person is a true artist that would say anything of the sort. Looking for shortcuts indeffinately is weak. Toki doesn't approve of saying such things as "only need a tablet".
tablet proficency comes with use. I started doing alot of my sketching with it jsut to get myself "calibrated" to it. Now I love my tablet. But there is definitly still a need for physical medium at times
I am not denying the use of a tablet, and I am certainly becoming more proficient with it, but replacing your drawing media completely with only a tablet would be like living on protein shakes and vitamin capsules...
I used to draw only with the tablet but I wasn't very good at it, plus it got very tedious. I almost always need to draw on paper first because it helps me record my ideas.
Mind if I join this mini project?
I think I might be able to helop using RPGMakerXP
Actually I was contacted by a fellow who said he would be interested in programming a game so I'm hoping we'll make this from scratch *_* I would like for people to perhaps help me develope fighting styles for each tan. I am going for a tactics style like I originally wanted to, but I'm still talking with this guy. I don't think he read the entire forum before he emailed me. Also if anyone is interested in developing a script. I think I'm going to write a synopsis. Since this is just for fun I'm going to reign myself. I like being able to play each character individually in story driven games but I think that there should either be a focus on a single character or something...
Would be best for the first (beta) versions...
You can always add other playable characters through updates/patches/expansion/whatever you want to call em...
yeah I suppose ^_^
who is going to make the sprites?
I am.
Well, what programs are you using in order to make a sprite?
Photoshop CS3 and EDGE. Mostly EDGE
Am I the only one who is a tad bit confused as to where this series of questioning is leading?
Not per se that, more the fact that ratratrat098 isn't here mostly, has only posted twice, and both those posts were here...
Yes... kinda weird ._.
You sure this isn't the same person who approached you about programming the game? I hear they can be a bit of an odd sort, ya know?
Meh, you can find an oddball in every group/place...
I'm sure o.o
We'd know wouldn't we -w-;
Sssuuuu! I still wanna do this!! >_< I havn't forgotten one bit about it, and have developed some ideas, but I'll admit it's been a while since I actively thought about it.
I think there is of course a possibility for each tan to have her own story line but I'm going to start out just focusing on ME. I'll start writing some things down again and post a general story outline. I think it will just be something like
ME-tan and Miku start out as rivals but work together against their true nemesis, Mac-tan! Or pig fru. idk.
Nooo! Don't have them fight against Mac-tan! :(
The thing is, having any of the OS-tans be the villian isn't a good idea since some people won't be happy about it.
Other than that, I hope you make progress with your OS-tan game project!
viruses are every -tan's natural enemy. maybe you could have them partner up to kick virus butt. xD
throw nortin into the mix, make it REALLY interesting.....xD
wait.....they could be the fighters, and norton makes the gadgets! >:3
What kind of RPG will this be again?
It will be a tactics style RPG I think.
Yeah I was thinking, that it would make more sense that PC OS would be rivals with Mac OS, since Vocoloid is technically a program. I think apps will act as summons. for my own amusement I'll arrange some interaction between ME-tan and Miku though. I've got my mind set. It'll be fun. But thats what I meant by "pig fru" was actually viruses ^ ^;;
Suddenly, I started thinking: Megaman NT Warrior
This could be an interesting game if done properly. But... Making a game is not real easy task. I know cause I'm taking 3d classes and am seeing first hand the challenges devs face when making a video game.
Anyways, if you want to make this an RPG and do it easy or fast enough... think Pokemon... or Megaman NT Warrior... or Zoids (I really like their character sprites).
Oh yeah, I remember that...
I think as long as the game doesn't take on a too stherial tone, it should be just fine with Windows-tans v Mac-tans. I mean as long as it's not a battle of good v evil, shouldn't really be a problem right?
of course ^-^ just rivals... I've been talking with my programmer friend and we'll work out an effective but simple battle system.
Like Pokemon! Until they went Ruby/Sapphire...
Or is it going to be a... rock-paper-scissors kind of battle system?
Anyways... I thought about it and... I suggest you make a... choose your character/side kind of game. It could help this game be more open-ended or make towards a possible union at the ending parts to battle a common enemy (hackers and/or other threats).
I'm just going to make it simple the first time around and if enough people are interested in it then I might expand it.
Good idea, I say start with a fundamentally sound base (something fun, pure and simple) that's just elementary and then just build from there later on. I like that.
Yeah! Like Pokemon! Oh wait.
Anyways... I think you ought to show off some of those sprit'n skillz to get the masses pumped! They do like to have preview of things about nothing just to have something to cheer for. lol
Pokemon IS good and simple, you know.
Except, just not very simple -w-;
So is your programming friend building this from scratch? Or has any thing been fully decided yet?
I know a lot of game makers were recommended, but if he's working from scratch, I'd like to suggest a game engine he can use.
There's this free-and-open source game called The Battle for Wesnoth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Wesnoth), I don't know if you would consider it a tactical RPG, but it is a turn-based strategy game with RPG elements (that sounds a lot like a tactics RPG to me). It is generally considered one of the best free games out there, and the whole thing is GPL'd so the engine should be available to use. It's also cross-platform, FYI ^^.
Sorry for making yet another recommendation, but I just thought this would be something you'd be interested in.
I posted some pixel work in free cookies just now, but it's not specifically a sprite... or OStan related. I'll get on it! But I started working on a Pop'n Style WinME cartoon a little while ago and it's just so fun.. I can't stop.
But! I'll talk to my friend about that platform. Have him take a look at it. I don't think I can be trusted to make these sorts of decisions myself.
The Idea for a OS-tan RPG would be a amazing concept, you could actually make a well put out story design involving Apple Corp, Viruses and ect. but it seems it would end up like megaman battle network in some way.
Hmm thinking about it makes me feel that this could go right on par with the other project someone's got here. It's a visual novel related to the tans. Maybe you two could join up and work out a game or something.
http://ostan-collections.net/topic-1026.html
He's MIA for now though... working on some medical project for a friend. I don't know if/when he'll be back either.