I was wondering about known OS-tan enemies, and battles. System 7-tan and 95-san are known enemies, who have battled each other...OS/2-tan, NT-tan, and VMS-san are all known to hate each other, but have they ever fought each other? And System 8-tan was quite injured from OS battles, but who would have been against her (I usually think the 98-tans, because System 8 was around from 97-99...)
I can think of fights of Linux-tan vs the Windows-tans (Juzo-kun drew Linux-tan attacking the XP-kun), OS/2-tan vs Win3.1-tan, Minix-tan surely fought Linux-tan ("Linux is obsolete" is the start of one of the most famous flamewars in the history of the 'net*), BeOS vs Win98(?)...
* http://www.xach.com/linux_is_obsolete.html
Well .... think about fights .... I can't forget MacOS Tans ..... maybe this will be a total war zone.......
after all i think that linux tan will win
:)
cheers!
As far as the Mac-tans side goes, I really believe they stayed out of the war for almost a decade.
I just think every OS except for Windows went to have a counter-culture rather aiming at whole marketshare :)
The only thing I can recall is Generic Mac vs 95-tan during the mid 90s. Then again the OS-wars were Concurrent to the Console-Wars between Nintento and Sega. At least the OS-wars happened after the Cola Wars of the 80s.
The current OS war is more interesting than the 95 vs Mac fight of the 90's. Think of it like WWII was - a war all over the world, with many different fronts. Here is a simple history of the OS War as I see it:
First OS War (1977-1989): The Mac Empire, with its base in Europe (Home and artist users), fights the evil IBM Empire in Asia (Business users). Having lost Russia, IBM fights back with the IBM PC, forcing the Mac Empire back to Europe. They make an alliance with the Windows Empire in the steppes of Mongolia (highly specialized users of BASIC), and defeat Mac using the latest tool, Windows 1.0.
Second OS War (1989-2001): The Windows Empire takes control of IBM's empire. From its base in Asia it takes Europe from the Mac Empire, forcing them into England (Artist users). However, the Exiled general of Mac, Steve Jobs, returns with a fearsome new weapon to colonize Africa (MP3 players and periperals): the iPod. However, Windows has banished Mac from Europe.
Third OS War (2001-present): The Windows Empire controls Asia (Business computer market) and most of Europe (Home user market), and it fights with the Mac Empire, based in England (Artist user market). The Mac Empire has managed to colonize much of Africa (MP3 player and peripheral market), and now wants to control the Middle East (cell phone and portable market), once the domain of the portable OSes. A successful invasion of Norway by the Mac Empire has the Windows empire in turmoil, but they strike back with their new weapons - Vista and the Zune. Now fighting Mac in both Europe and Africa, new turmoil engulfs the Middle East, with Windows Portable fighting the iPhone and factions of portable OSes. North and South America remain unknown markets, but they will be a battlefield in the near future. Australia (video games), once the province of the Nintendo and Sony Empires, has been invaded by Windows. Mac's expedition to take Sydney with the Pippin failed years earlier, but Windows has successfully taken its share out of the continent. However, the Linux Revolution has spread through both the Mac and Windows Empires, and threatens to take over the world from their base in Japan (science and educational market).
D00d. yinz. Seriously, draw a comic.
Yeah i would LOVe a Os war comic ^^
Can't forget the console wars
Wii vs ps3 vs xbox 360 and xbox 360 elite
Yesh, I agree that an OS war comic would be pretty cool
Also Viruses play a part as enemies: Once annoying trouble makers, now big time villians causing more than just causing a little annoyance in the world...
yeah I love a serious comic or manga made of this cool art story and everything.
Also in a way we human users can be considered enimies such as hackers.
Oh yes can't forget about the haxors
...hm, I wonder how do you 'hack' an OS-tan...
anou... i know an perv way ^^"
but
maybe that how like people use pshyology(i hope i wrote it right) on each other to manipulate them, maybe the hacker uses somthing simmilar to this.
I really don't know about os-wars, but I would like to see an os-tan comic!
QuoteThe current OS war is more interesting than the 95 vs Mac fight of the 90's. Think of it like WWII was - a war all over the world, with many different fronts. Here is a simple history of the OS War as I see it:
First OS War (1977-1989): The Mac Empire, with its base in Europe (Home and artist users), fights the evil IBM Empire in Asia (Business users). Having lost Russia, IBM fights back with the IBM PC, forcing the Mac Empire back to Europe. They make an alliance with the Windows Empire in the steppes of Mongolia (highly specialized users of BASIC), and defeat Mac using the latest tool, Windows 1.0.
Second OS War (1989-2001): The Windows Empire takes control of IBM's empire. From its base in Asia it takes Europe from the Mac Empire, forcing them into England (Artist users). However, the Exiled general of Mac, Steve Jobs, returns with a fearsome new weapon to colonize Africa (MP3 players and periperals): the iPod. However, Windows has banished Mac from Europe.
Third OS War (2001-present): The Windows Empire controls Asia (Business computer market) and most of Europe (Home user market), and it fights with the Mac Empire, based in England (Artist user market). The Mac Empire has managed to colonize much of Africa (MP3 player and peripheral market), and now wants to control the Middle East (cell phone and portable market), once the domain of the portable OSes. A successful invasion of Norway by the Mac Empire has the Windows empire in turmoil, but they strike back with their new weapons - Vista and the Zune. Now fighting Mac in both Europe and Africa, new turmoil engulfs the Middle East, with Windows Portable fighting the iPhone and factions of portable OSes. North and South America remain unknown markets, but they will be a battlefield in the near future. Australia (video games), once the province of the Nintendo and Sony Empires, has been invaded by Windows. Mac's expedition to take Sydney with the Pippin failed years earlier, but Windows has successfully taken its share out of the continent. However, the Linux Revolution has spread through both the Mac and Windows Empires, and threatens to take over the world from their base in Japan (science and educational market).
How has this thread been hiding from me!
That's an interesting take on it! I certainly wouldn't have been able to come up with all of that O__O
(I seem to think about the OS wars on an individual basis, aka NT-san's conquering of the server market, or System 7-tan's failed attempt to take out 95-tan : | )
The WINDOWS USA are Enemies of Windows-Tans?
You mean the 2K's, XP's and ME's counterparts in the "Trouble Windows in USA" series?
Probably aren't enemies. The OS-tan USA characters don't seem like much of a threat although XP-tan could see XP USA as an enemy for getting in the way of her beef bowl!
Of course those are just my guesses because I've only seen the first three pages of "Trouble Windows in USA"
i hope what someone have more pages of the manga... it make me laught a lot.
Odd, and here I was considering registering because I was hoping to request an image of FreeBSD-tan (somehow modified to represent PFsense) throwing this huge wall of fire between various 'nix and windows tans and viru-tan...
Bella's got a pretty good grasp on how the OS wars seem to have gone. Except how do you handle the joint win/nix fights against security problems (which honestly is very much a recent thing)?
Hello Notsonoble! Actually, C-Chan has created a FreeBSD-tan:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/normal_FreeBSD_chi.png)
And we've created a lot of different *nix and other non-canon OS-tans. You can find most of them in the user galleries, and in our various member art threads.
As for joint Windows/*nix fights...tough call...I always assumed they were rather separate from one another...I honestly cannot see them teaming up...^^
I really SHOULD shade that one, shouldn't I? But I reckon the BSD pic (with Dragonfly, Free, Open and Net) takes precedence over that ol thing. ^+^
In fairness, that design if my personal take on FreeBSD-tan. There were other renditions of her before that one, although none were particularly consistent.
As for *Nix/Win security pacts... well,... here's one instance where they cooperate to vanquish a common foe.... ^__________^;
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/MEWXPZLFUDAWV_logo4.png)
I kid, I kid. ^x^
But seriously, we'd probably need more info on the subject. The only official collaboration between the two entities I can think of lies with SCO Unix, Novell SUSE, Xandros and TurboLinux (used to also be Linspire, but... well... they got what was coming to them... -.-; ).
Quote from: "Bella"Hello Notsonoble! Actually, C-Chan has created a FreeBSD-tan:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/normal_FreeBSD_chi.png)
I had seen this, and was happy with it!
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As for joint Windows/*nix fights...tough call...I always assumed they were rather separate from one another...I honestly cannot see them teaming up...^^
XP-tan: "I won't let you win!"
'Nix-tan: "You can't stop me!"
Viru-tan to Spyware-tan: "look at that."
XP-tan and 'Nix-tan: "Get them" *leads several other suddenly appearing OS tans in the pummeling of viru and spyware*
Viru-tan (bruised and slightly bloddied): "Why did you stop... whezze... fighting... wheeze?"
XP-Tan: "Business before pleasure."
Added after 6 minutes: Quote from: "C-Chan"
But seriously, we'd probably need more info on the subject. The only official collaboration between the two entities I can think of lies with SCO Unix, Novell SUSE, Xandros and TurboLinux (used to also be Linspire, but... well... they got what was coming to them... -.-; ).
I've seen little official MS-'nix cooperation myself. However, I've seen lots of good setups using both for a combo of security and ease of use. I deal with (for various reasons). Ubuntu, XP, S2k3, RedHat, BSD, and even a few VMS machines at work because each provides something to smooth out operations or protect patient data at the hospital.
QuoteBut seriously, we'd probably need more info on the subject. The only official collaboration between the two entities I can think of lies with SCO Unix, Novell SUSE, Xandros and TurboLinux (used to also be Linspire, but... well... they got what was coming to them... -.-; ).
Ah, yes, there are some *nixes who like M$ a little too much, eh? T___T
QuoteI've seen little official MS-'nix cooperation myself. However, I've seen lots of good setups using both for a combo of security and ease of use. I deal with (for various reasons). Ubuntu, XP, S2k3, RedHat, BSD, and even a few VMS machines at work because each provides something to smooth out operations or protect patient data at the hospital.
VMS!!!?! You've worked with VMS!!!!!! OMG, you're my new best friend!
*grovels before Notsonoble*
If you can't tell by my avi, I like VMS. And VMS-sama, our personification of that OS. So, how were your experiences with the leather-clad, sword-swinging, NT-inspiring, eater of Skiddies? My only work with the OS has been playing on Deathrow Cluster's VMS machines, via Hyperterminal. I regretfully don't know any DCL, so we usually ended up just playing games.
And VMS-sama won every time T___T
QuoteI've seen little official MS-'nix cooperation myself. However, I've seen lots of good setups using both for a combo of security and ease of use. I deal with (for various reasons). Ubuntu, XP, S2k3, RedHat, BSD, and even a few VMS machines at work because each provides something to smooth out operations or protect patient data at the hospital.
Aaaa sou sou....
You're talking about individual setups -- I thought you meant like actual company policy. ^^'
In that case,... yeah sure, there are TONS of cases that one can potentially come up with involving teamwork and cooperation by a literal hodgepodge of different systems. Plenty of instances where you can have a Windows or *Nix-tan beat up on viruses collectively,...and maybe other instances where they might COOPERATE with the viruses themselves to earn a little extra under-the-counter cash. Fufu... `v'
Naturally, there's been plenty of group work done before.
Here's the latest of Grant_P-san's OS-tan fanfiction, which pairs XP-san and Ubuntu-san cooperating on... *snicker snicker, chortle chortle*... "security". ^____^
http://ostan-collections.net/post-52979.html#52979
And here's a picture I drew a while ago, where you have XP-tan, FreeBSD-tand and MiMail-tan (a virus), joining forces to jump... of all things... a linux-tan and another virus-tan. ^____^;
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/FCLAbraxasFinal.png
QuoteVMS!!!?! You've worked with VMS!!!!!! OMG, you're my new best friend!
*grovels before Notsonoble*
If you can't tell by my avi, I like VMS. And VMS-sama, our personification of that OS. So, how were your experiences with the leather-clad, sword-swinging, NT-inspiring, eater of Skiddies? My only work with the OS has been playing on Deathrow Cluster's VMS machines, via Hyperterminal. I regretfully don't know any DCL, so we usually ended up just playing games.
And VMS-sama won every time T___T
Yeeeeeeeeah... seems like, thanks to your VMS experience, you've automatically upgraded to the status of Demi-God in Bella-hime's eyes. ^^
Oh well... if the shoe fits, I suppose. -v-
Many of you are too young to remember ancient computer wars , but if you could spot some vintage computer newspapers, you will se lots of flamewars between:
Atari 2600 and Mattel Intellivision
and then Commodore C64 versus Sinclair ZX Spectrum Wars...
More recently Amiga 500 Vs Atari ST...
There were pages and pages of flamewars still written by sending real letters to newspapers (internet was still in beta, for militars and universisites, and far from being usable by anyone) and sent by fanboys from one side or from the other side...
Mini sub wars... Which systems was better for games? Nintendo? Sega Megadrive? etc...
I still remember the Nintendo vs. Sega wars of the mid 90's!
Another vintage computer rivalry was between the C64 and TI-99/4a in which the two companies (as well as some others, except for Apple) engaged in aggressive price wars! The C64 ultimately won as the TI-99/4a was sold too low, at a loss and TI pulled out of the computer market in 1983.
Wow I should really check here more often...
Quote from: "Bella"
VMS!!!?! You've worked with VMS!!!!!! OMG, you're my new best friend!
*grovels before Notsonoble*
*picks Bella up* Not really the great huge amounts that would earn me any groveling... but yeah from a operator stand point I use it.
Quote from: "Aurora Borealis"I still remember the Nintendo vs. Sega wars of the mid 90's!
I remember this business. In comparison with today's wars, those seem nonsense.
P.S. I badly know English, I use the automatic translator: (
BABELFISH-DATOOOOUUUU!!!??!!??!
>.>
I mean, it still doesn't sound THAT bad...although the syntheticity does shine through.
Hmmmm, I think an OS War Comic set would be interesting.
Curious, where are all of the comics that tell about other OS's? I've yet to see any other comics beyond the ones on the image gallery here.
Razgriz1
Well, there's already an anime about this: Buttobi CPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnMLJ8XTlLk
Wait. I have heard of that anime. That's hentai. But, to the point, that anime is a robot, not an actual OS, interacting with a human.
Yes, but you got Mac-tans there! ;001 Besides if you consider the idea of Itelligent home, the Interactive assisstan in the form of an OS-tan would essentially be a robot. A hologram alternatively, but a robot is better. I mean those kinds of interfaces... Perfect! ;157
Dealing with true AI's is dangerous, you know.
Quote from: "NewYinzer"The current OS war is more interesting than the 95 vs Mac fight of the 90's. Think of it like WWII was - a war all over the world, with many different fronts. Here is a simple history of the OS War as I see it:
First OS War (1977-1989): The Mac Empire, with its base in Europe (Home and artist users), fights the evil IBM Empire in Asia (Business users). Having lost Russia, IBM fights back with the IBM PC, forcing the Mac Empire back to Europe. They make an alliance with the Windows Empire in the steppes of Mongolia (highly specialized users of BASIC), and defeat Mac using the latest tool, Windows 1.0.
Second OS War (1989-2001): The Windows Empire takes control of IBM's empire. From its base in Asia it takes Europe from the Mac Empire, forcing them into England (Artist users). However, the Exiled general of Mac, Steve Jobs, returns with a fearsome new weapon to colonize Africa (MP3 players and periperals): the iPod. However, Windows has banished Mac from Europe.
Third OS War (2001-present): The Windows Empire controls Asia (Business computer market) and most of Europe (Home user market), and it fights with the Mac Empire, based in England (Artist user market). The Mac Empire has managed to colonize much of Africa (MP3 player and peripheral market), and now wants to control the Middle East (cell phone and portable market), once the domain of the portable OSes. A successful invasion of Norway by the Mac Empire has the Windows empire in turmoil, but they strike back with their new weapons - Vista and the Zune. Now fighting Mac in both Europe and Africa, new turmoil engulfs the Middle East, with Windows Portable fighting the iPhone and factions of portable OSes. North and South America remain unknown markets, but they will be a battlefield in the near future. Australia (video games), once the province of the Nintendo and Sony Empires, has been invaded by Windows. Mac's expedition to take Sydney with the Pippin failed years earlier, but Windows has successfully taken its share out of the continent. However, the Linux Revolution has spread through both the Mac and Windows Empires, and threatens to take over the world from their base in Japan (science and educational market).
That's a cool way to envision OS-wars.
Os-tan would hav to be generals/commanders of some sort, while their armies... their armies could be made up of applications that run under those OSs, with programs running under more than 1 OS being mercenaries of some sort. The Windows' army would probably be very large and Russia-like in style, given the sheer quantity of software developed for windows, while the Linux army would be made up of elite troops or something...
QuoteThat's a cool way to envision OS-wars.
Os-tan would hav to be generals/commanders of some sort, while their armies... their armies could be made up of applications that run under those OSs, with programs running under more than 1 OS being mercenaries of some sort. The Windows' army would probably be very large and Russia-like in style, given the sheer quantity of software developed for windows, while the Linux army would be made up of elite troops or something...
This sounds about right, and is certainly how a lot of us imagine it (OS-tans and some program-tans are at the top of the commanding order, with smaller programs, files, etc. being the lower classes). As for the different "armies", I know the Windows' are supposed to be moderately advanced, but very effective and strong; the Unixen and Linuxes are supposed to be somewhat down-to-earth in regards to weapons, but they're tactical geniuses and have numbers on their side. The Macs I've never really thought of as being that militaristic; they were certainly steamrolled in the OS Wars @___@
Then there's other groups which we've invented, like the CIOST (Confederation of Independent OS-Tans), who are insanely advanced but rather small in population...
I think that the Linux army would be more like the Spartans from "300"! :D
It was conjectured that the Mac-tans from the old days did have an army but did not put it to use very much because the did not expect anyone to take over. And although their army was very large, it lost due to poor tactics.
Apple was doing greatly in 1995 but hit an all-time low in 1996, partly because of faulty Macs released at that time- including the infamous Powerbook 5300. Another reason Apple met its near-demise was because of the Mac clones- licensed hardware from other companies that run the Mac OS. For one reason or another, the clones did a lot more harm to Apple's market share than good.
A free OS? This is madness!
Madness? THIS IS LINUX!
...Sorry, had to say it. :P
Still, the Mac pretty much conquered the MP3 market right now, so they must have an army of some sort... or maybe they just conquered the whole region using propaganda and humanitarian aids ("i-anything" 'cool factor' and the whole load of accessories for I-pod)
Viru-tans could also be portrayed as loose terrorist factions.
And the Mac's MP3 market could be portrayed as spies trying to get more people on the side of Mac.
ik....
mac -vs- os
linux -vs- pretty much everybody
2k -vs- homeko -vs- XP
homeko -vs- yaoi haters (ok i made that one up ;] )
95 -vs- mac (this is seperate from the 1st cause it gets so intense)
me -vs- norton (read somewhere that norton hates me)
and that's all ik.
since these are fan generated characters, with no rock solid base, and no copyrights (yet), just as the programmers messed with linux, you could use your imagination and dream up some battles. <3
Quote from: "Nuker"A free OS? This is madness!
Madness? THIS IS LINUX!
...Sorry, had to say it. :P
Hahaha! Must... Draw... "300" parody! :D
Quote from: "guyveroz"Viru-tans could also be portrayed as loose terrorist factions.
That would work for most of the virus-tans!
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And the Mac's MP3 market could be portrayed as spies trying to get more people on the side of Mac.
That is good too- those that like the iPod-tans are likely to by association like the Mac-tans! :D
Quote from: "Chocofreak13"
mac -vs- os
You're going to have to be more specific that that.
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linux -vs- pretty much everybody
True! The Linux-tans do not get along with the highly conservative Unices and there may also be some infighting among the Linuces themselves, hence why the Linux/Unix Consortium is such a mess -_-
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2k -vs- homeko -vs- XP
Not sure about 2K-tan in the rivalry but Homeko and XP Pro-tan have been depicted as rivals, with XP Pro-tan antagonistic towards Homeko's love for yaoi and perverted relationship with Homeo.
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homeko -vs- yaoi haters (ok i made that one up ;] )
So true! :D
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95 -vs- mac (this is seperate from the 1st cause it gets so intense)
Yup. 95-tan hates the Mac-tans with a vengance, especially Macintosh System 7-tan who was her mortal enemy.
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me -vs- norton (read somewhere that norton hates me)
Hmm... I recall reading that somewhere too.
Quote from: "Aurora Borealis"Quote from: "Nuker"A free OS? This is madness!
Madness? THIS IS LINUX!
...Sorry, had to say it. :P
Hahaha! Must... Draw... "300" parody! :D
Quote from: "guyveroz"Viru-tans could also be portrayed as loose terrorist factions.
That would work for most of the virus-tans!
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And the Mac's MP3 market could be portrayed as spies trying to get more people on the side of Mac.
That is good too- those that like the iPod-tans are likely to by association like the Mac-tans! :D
Quote from: "Chocofreak13"
mac -vs- os
You're going to have to be more specific that that.
"sorry. means the generalized win-tan we're all used to."
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linux -vs- pretty much everybody
True! The Linux-tans do not get along with the highly conservative Unices and there may also be some infighting among the Linuces themselves, hence why the Linux/Unix Consortium is such a mess -_-
"woot! one right!"
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2k -vs- homeko -vs- XP
Not sure about 2K-tan in the rivalry but Homeko and XP Pro-tan have been depicted as rivals, with XP Pro-tan antagonistic towards Homeko's love for yaoi and perverted relationship with Homeo.
"read somewhere that homeko was like 2k, only more efficient, causing some friction (obviously)."
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homeko -vs- yaoi haters (ok i made that one up ;] )
So true! :D
"indeed. we have some die-hard yaoi fans in my circle (i enjoy a good naruxsasu once in awhile :3) and ik that if anything in our culture is threatened by someone with the proper knowledge of it (aka if an anime fan insults yaoi) we rise to defend it. since she's a yaoi artist, this must mean she's also a fan. <3"
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95 -vs- mac (this is seperate from the 1st cause it gets so intense)
Yup. 95-tan hates the Mac-tans with a vengance, especially Macintosh System 7-tan who was her mortal enemy.
"lol, i remember reading somewhere on this site that since vista is based on a similar system to macs, that 95 may have a beef with vista ("YOU TRAITOR!!"). xD"
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me -vs- norton (read somewhere that norton hates me)
Hmm... I recall reading that somewhere too.
"(completly off topic) has anyone ever considered adding a male-only section to the gallery? it's quite hard to find norton, trend-micro, and all the os-kuns among the many, many, MANY -tans there.
on topic: me must turn to someone else for her checkups. if i were a -tan i'd only use mcafee. i'd feel more comfortable that way."
Quote from: "Chocofreak13"
"sorry. means the generalized win-tan we're all used to."
That's what I (along with many other readers) assumed.
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"read somewhere that homeko was like 2k, only more efficient, causing some friction (obviously)."
I see.
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"indeed. we have some die-hard yaoi fans in my circle (i enjoy a good naruxsasu once in awhile :3) and ik that if anything in our culture is threatened by someone with the proper knowledge of it (aka if an anime fan insults yaoi) we rise to defend it. since she's a yaoi artist, this must mean she's also a fan. <3"
While I am not exactly a yaoi fan, I do like the NaruxSasu pairing! :D
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"lol, i remember reading somewhere on this site that since vista is based on a similar system to macs, that 95 may have a beef with vista ("YOU TRAITOR!!"). xD"
Vista has better Unix support than previous Windows OSes and Mac OS X is based off of Unix (I think it was FreeBSD to be exact) and 95-tan would not like that association!
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"(completly off topic) has anyone ever considered adding a male-only section to the gallery? it's quite hard to find norton, trend-micro, and all the os-kuns among the many, many, MANY -tans there.
That is a good idea!
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on topic: me must turn to someone else for her checkups. if i were a -tan i'd only use mcafee. i'd feel more comfortable that way."
Norton isn't ME-compatible?
A lot of the OS-tans are scared of Norton-kun, the perverted doctor! Trend Micro-kun is also a pervert too. At least McAfee-san is perverted, as far as I know!
Quote from: "Aurora Borealis"Quote from: "Chocofreak13"
"sorry. means the generalized win-tan we're all used to."
That's what I (along with many other readers) assumed.
"good. i'm still a noob, so i'm bound to make a misake or two. besides, i think i was still freaking out that it got so dark so early."
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"read somewhere that homeko was like 2k, only more efficient, causing some friction (obviously)."
I see.
"hmm, i think i posted the site a few weeks ago, it's in a topic i made called 'os tan site' but i clicked the link, and it's gone ;_;"
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"indeed. we have some die-hard yaoi fans in my circle (i enjoy a good naruxsasu once in awhile :3) and ik that if anything in our culture is threatened by someone with the proper knowledge of it (aka if an anime fan insults yaoi) we rise to defend it. since she's a yaoi artist, this must mean she's also a fan. <3"
While I am not exactly a yaoi fan, I do like the NaruxSasu pairing! :D
"hmm, i'm more of a shonen-ai fan myslef, rather than the hardcore stuff."
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"lol, i remember reading somewhere on this site that since vista is based on a similar system to macs, that 95 may have a beef with vista ("YOU TRAITOR!!"). xD"
Vista has better Unix support than previous Windows OSes and Mac OS X is based off of Unix (I think it was FreeBSD to be exact) and 95-tan would not like that association!
"95 is good in that she doesn't forget tradition and where the win-tan came from, but bad in the fact that she lacks the ability to adapt."
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"(completly off topic) has anyone ever considered adding a male-only section to the gallery? it's quite hard to find norton, trend-micro, and all the os-kuns among the many, many, MANY -tans there.
That is a good idea!
"i'd like to see it happen. drawing is my passion, and without a real grouping for the male characters, i've only found a few ;_;"
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on topic: me must turn to someone else for her checkups. if i were a -tan i'd only use mcafee. i'd feel more comfortable that way."
Norton isn't ME-compatible?
A lot of the OS-tans are scared of Norton-kun, the perverted doctor! Trend Micro-kun is also a pervert too. At least McAfee-san is perverted, as far as I know!
"do you mean she isn't a pervert? i read that somewhere....hmmm, it'd be nice for a girl to get meds from a girl. i hate doctors, and it softens the impact a little. (but not much)
on a completely seperate note, since these characters are fan based, and thus not set in stone, it is acceptable for the fans to come up with a variation or two in the -tan world without getting flamed, yes? i believe i have a good idea. :3"
Quotelinux -vs- pretty much everybody
I've actually assumed the Linuxes would be some of the more amiable OS-tans, who would gain ground with diplomacy and tactics rather than brutality.
QuoteHahaha! Must... Draw... "300" parody!
Oh this is gonna be good XD
QuoteTrue! The Linux-tans do not get along with the highly conservative Unices and there may also be some infighting among the Linuces themselves, hence why the Linux/Unix Consortium is such a mess -_-
But some of the open source Unixen would at least be sympathetic to the Linuxes, or so I think. A few proprietary Unixen, however, like Tru64 and AIX-tan would be friendly with the Linuxes (as these OSes have Linux compatibility).
Quote"lol, i remember reading somewhere on this site that since vista is based on a similar system to macs, that 95 may have a beef with vista ("YOU TRAITOR!!"). xD"
Well, Vista isn't vaguely related to Mac OSX, not by the longest of shots. Mac OS X is Unix, pure and simple, and is directly derived from NeXTSTEP, a BSD Unix/Mach kernel based OS. Vista is based off of NT, same as XP and 2k, and NT hails from the insanely powerful VMS and the moribund OS/2. It has no relation to Unix at all.
Quote"(completly off topic) has anyone ever considered adding a male-only section to the gallery? it's quite hard to find norton, trend-micro, and all the os-kuns among the many, many, MANY -tans there.
on topic: me must turn to someone else for her checkups. if i were a -tan i'd only use mcafee. i'd feel more comfortable that way."
I don't believe there's enough -kuns to warrant a -kun section of the gallery...that's something that would have to be brought up with a Mod, though.
Quoteon a completely seperate note, since these characters are fan based, and thus not set in stone, it is acceptable for the fans to come up with a variation or two in the -tan world without getting flamed, yes? i believe i have a good idea. :3"
I think we'll be willing to listen! After all, OS-tans are based more on a "fanon" than a "canon".
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"good. i'm still a noob, so i'm bound to make a misake or two. besides, i think i was still freaking out that it got so dark so early."
We all make mistakes and are always start as newbies when joining a fandom!
Back when I was a newbie here, I thought that WE-tan was ME-tan's counterpart from a parallel universe! XD
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"hmm, i think i posted the site a few weeks ago, it's in a topic i made called 'os tan site' but i clicked the link, and it's gone ;_;"
Aw bummer. That site was very good for its time and helped me understand the OS-tans better when I first encountered them :(
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"hmm, i'm more of a shonen-ai fan myslef, rather than the hardcore stuff."
Me too. I don't like the hardcore stuff such as yaoi. I meant to say that I like shounen-ai too.
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"95 is good in that she doesn't forget tradition and where the win-tan came from, but bad in the fact that she lacks the ability to adapt."
Exactly!
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"i'd like to see it happen. drawing is my passion, and without a real grouping for the male characters, i've only found a few ;_;"
Yay! Another artist! I hope you can post up your work!
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"do you mean she isn't a pervert?"
I'm not sure actually.
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on a completely seperate note, since these characters are fan based, and thus not set in stone, it is acceptable for the fans to come up with a variation or two in the -tan world without getting flamed, yes? i believe i have a good idea. :3"
Yes, as long as you don't override any of the OS-tan 'canon'.
I also thought Linux-tans would be the most diplomatic of them all... considering they are open source and can be adapted to work with other OSes... then again most viruses are made on Linux/UNIX machines,,, hmmm... two faced entities?
QuoteI also thought Linux-tans would be the most diplomatic of them all... considering they are open source and can be adapted to work with other OSes... then again most viruses are made on Linux/UNIX machines,,, hmmm... two faced entities?
O RLY? Reference, please.
Oh my bad. After further research it was only through a 3rd party program that Linux units can access Mac drives. I though it could be switched between reading little endian(Intel based) and big endian (Classic Mac) through mounting commands
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And after further further research turns out at least Solaris could (http://osdir.com/ml/os.solaris.opensolaris.ufs/2007-04/msg00009.html) there might be others
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Just underlined the link to make it more visible
QuoteYes, as long as you don't override any of the OS-tan 'canon'.
THE CANON
It is the LAW.[/i]
And the cannon enforces the canon law? >.>
Sorry couldn't resist the bad pun.
What's more powerful canon or fanon?
That depends on the detail of the original work. If the author decides to leave much to our own imagination...ROW ROW. -w-
Well, if you decide you want to depict XP-tan or some other "canon" character (which is really just the Windows and Mac-tans) as being completly physically different than 90% of the depictions of her, then you might run into some troubles....
However, it you have some new ideas for her personality, or have some ideas for an underrepresented character or whatnot, then you should be okay.
I should be one to talk, my entire time drawing OS-tans has either been spent creating new OS-tans, or subtlety modifying existing designs. I don't think I've even drawn a completely canon character in my life, and would rather not even think of there being a set canon.
Quote from: "Bella"Well, if you decide you want to depict XP-tan or some other "canon" character (which is really just the Windows and Mac-tans) as being completly physically different than 90% of the depictions of her, then you might run into some troubles....
More specifically, the 'canon' OS-tans are the Windows-tans from Windows 3.1 to XP* and just two or three of the Mac-tans: Mac OS 9-tan, Mac-tan/OSX-tan (the blonde girl in the white bodysuit) and Tiger-tan. MS DOS-tan, Linux-tan and Linspire-tan are considered canon too.
*there is no one canon Vistan design. There are so many out there and some of them gained a lot of popularity, such as Vistake and Chivistan but they still haven't been 'accepted' by all OS-tan fans.
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However, it you have some new ideas for her personality...
Like how you added in all that backstory for Linux-sama! ;010
Just wondering... who actually sets what's "canon" in the OS-tan universe?
Because as far as I know the OS-tannivers... (okay I need to stop making cheesy stupid names) is all based on fanon,,,
QuoteMore specifically, the 'canon' OS-tans are the Windows-tans from Windows 3.1 to XP* and just two or three of the Mac-tans: Mac OS 9-tan, Mac-tan/OSX-tan (the blonde girl in the white bodysuit) and Tiger-tan. MS DOS-tan, Linux-tan and Linspire-tan are considered canon too.
*there is no one canon Vistan design. There are so many out there and some of them gained a lot of popularity, such as Vistake and Chivistan but they still haven't been 'accepted' by all OS-tan fans.
I would be willing to think Chivistan is the "canon" Vistan by now. If you look at the imageboards, when somebody requests an image of Vista-tan, it's 9 time out of 10 it'll be Chivistan that's posted.
And while Linux and Linspire-tan designs were floating around, they really didn't have any "character" to speak of, which brings me to...
QuoteLike how you added in all that backstory for Linux-sama!
Yeah, Linux-tan did kinda go from some little girl wearing a helmet and flippers (or sometimes a giant scary penguin), to a responsible, intelligent, spirited matriarch of all Distro-tans, savior of the Unix society and a would-be Unix-sama soul mate.
Since 'technically' the calculator-tans are not canon (they haven't even existed for a full year yet) would they be included into some of these ideas for enemies?
Really all it would be is: Calcu-tans vs. the enemy of their employer(s) because they're mercinaries.
^ I think so.
I know for sure that the TI family and HP family are still rivals (especially because TI-88-tan's death was said to be caused by one of the HP calcu-tans).
cute... thread merging :P
But don't you think the Calcu-tans aside from being mercs would also be plotting the downfall of OS-tans considering they took most of the Calc-tan's jobs... I mean who wouldn't rather Alt+Tab/Mac+Tab (I keep forgetting what that button is called Control Option and Mac button?) to a scientific calculator on the computer than pick up another piece of equipment :P
Personally where I work it's rare that you see a calculator...
Possibly, but calculators are still in widespread use in schools. Carrying around a calculator is much more convienient than carrying a whole computer around just to do math!
True... but student calculators (at least where I am from are mostly hand downs and very few people actually need to do math on the go...
hmmm... weird idea a calculator watch is a calcu-tan or a watch-tan?
QuoteJust wondering... who actually sets what's "canon" in the OS-tan universe?
Because as far as I know the OS-tannivers... (okay I need to stop making cheesy stupid names) is all based on fanon,,,
I'm a technical kind of pig, so I'd rather give a technical kind of answer. The original Windows ME-tan, XP-tan and 2K-tan, for example, did originally start as a single drawing/set of drawings which slowly gained a little "fandom" as you call it.
Then through frequent and consistent recreation by countless other artists, a de facto "canon" was established in that the inevitable designs did all share a common guideline (e.g., ME-tan's pigtails, 2K-tan's megane personality, XP-tan eating like a hog, etc).
If you want an actual number, assume that it would take either around [ballpark] 100 artists across different imageboards working around a common character design template, or at least 1000 redistributions of preexisting images across said interweb hotspots, for it to be considered "canon".
This is the reason why, after the original Troubled Windows characters, it's very hard for additional characters (like Vista-tan or Windows 7-tan) to be considered canon, since all those artists now have a tendency to draw their own thing rather than rally behind someone else's design.
This is also why there will never be consistent video game console-tans or military warplane-tans and what not, and why in fact the whole "-tan" thing is pretty much balkanized at this point.
It's no small wonder Miku's so popular now -- it's a lot easier to worship one stable, commercial-supported character rather than 100,000,000 different fan-based ones.
Or so I assume...
Speaking only for myself, I've always preferred the easy-going, down-to-earth excitement of OSC homebrewed canon. -v-
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Yeah, Linux-tan did kinda go from some little girl wearing a helmet and flippers (or sometimes a giant scary penguin), to a responsible, intelligent, spirited matriarch of all Distro-tans, savior of the Unix society and a would-be Unix-sama soul mate.
Case in point! Bella-hime did much to make the flipper girl a hottie! (and yes, among the elite of Unix-sama visitors who lived to tell the tale) ^.^
QuotePossibly, but calculators are still in widespread use in schools. Carrying around a calculator is much more convienient than carrying a whole computer around just to do math!
Aurora-hime, you're too cruel. ^.^
(http://eeepc.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/acer_aspire_one.jpg)
QuotePossibly, but calculators are still in widespread use in schools. Carrying around a calculator is much more convienient than carrying a whole computer around just to do math!
Hmmm... something just hit me... that's what PDAs are for...
And another thing... Is there a Palm OS-tan to rival CE-tan?
GAH!! XvX
*facefaults*
*collapses*
.....Well.... at least you didn't ask if there was an Amiga-tan. I would've gone rabid on the spot. ^^
To answer your question, as I always say...
"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for the evening. But teach a man how to fish..."
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/index.php?cat=1
"...and he'll eat for life." ^.^
*facepalm*
How the heck did i miss that. I thought I searched that gallery thoroughly... must have been one of my net hiccups when I searched. I clearly remembering only the top part loading when I searched for Palm X.X
Nice an Aspire. I got a EeePC running Ubuntu eee
*indulges in a little OT*
Fufufu... The Acer Aspire One I get in contact with recently still runs the original AcerOS, but it's sufficiently close to Fedora Core 8 to be surprisingly useful with the necessary tweaks.
My EeePC 4G is currently running eeeBuntu NBR for testing purposes, while my EeePC 2G is still running EeePCLinuxOS. I have very little sympathy for the original Xandros-based AsusOS, so it rarely lasts long in my presence. -v-
Regarding the gallery, the User Gallery was a lot more prominent before, but is currently in an obscure corner of the main gallery pending some extra fixes still needed to be done(?) by Fedora-Tan (the site Admin). I haven't tested if we can upload new stuff to there or not since the last update, but in the past we used to be able to upload our artwork to there like mad.
In any event, you'll find all sorts of weird and wacky OS-tans in there, for systems that you would have never imagined deserved an OS-tan (e.g., GMOS-sama). ^__^
In any event, hope you like what you'll find. -v-
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/miniPalmOS.png)
Yup love the depiction, She's so cute... Now if only Palm would come up with WiFi for their OS.
Okay so for something a little on topic
So we can have CE-tan vs Palm-tan... USB vs Stylus that could be sweet
ya like the other posts say an os war comic would be nice