I watched many pics in the Gallery and i ask my myself how you guy create pics/Coloring like a pros! (But How???)
Now i ask:
Please/onegai/Bitte/s'il vous plait! Teach/tell me how! ;269
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for example like this:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10721/normal_d1b9498e356abbe6b41ef1af626dc34a.jpg)
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Or like this:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10622/1164503428141.jpg)
(if someone can teach me that would be great!)
*sigh* See my Private Message.... -___-
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Alright, first thing to do is agree that this thread is a picture thread. That way, we can post larger pictures or repost preexisting ones without worry.
Second: You have to ask yourself the philiosophical question...
Are you really drawing like a "pro" or just trying to imitate a style you admire?
Maybe two you or me, this style of art seems professional:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10622/1167437420948.jpg)
But I can assure you, to 80% of people in the world (or more), it's actually quite childish and unprofessional.
In contrast, I can assure you quite a number of those people would better appreciate your style of drawing, as seen here:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11311/Os-Tan_group.jpg)
It may not be cel-shaded, but the presentation is excellent and the colored-pencil feel to it does give the viewer the sense that a lot more effort was put into making it. I've definitely seen manga covers drawn in that style before, and it is a universally-accepted notion that manga art is of better quality than Anime cel-art.
Once you've thought that through (and hopefully a few people will pitch in some opinions as well), then you let me know if you really want to downgrade your art style. -v-
Well...i'm not a pro but i can give you some advice.
Try to imitate some picture you like, do it every day and you will gain a lot of drawing skills.
To coloring a pict...try mastering drawing software (photoshop or if you like free soft, try Gimp).
Thanks C-Chan again and again! (you safed me by consulting now the third time or so o.O")
I was/going to betraying myself ... ;015 That's true, what you said, if i do that i will betray my own drawing style...
(btw i agree this is a picture thread)
Quote from: "Thurosis"Thanks C-Chan again and again! (you safed me by consulting now the third time or so o.O")
I was/going to betraying myself ... That's true, what you said, if i do that i will betray my own drawing style...
Nope... ;014
As you strongly desire to be a professional, then you want to learn how many techniques of drawing as possible.
This is a point of respect for you, because it demonstrated you want TO EVOLVE, and not being stuck forever into your little garden of good artist, (sure good one) but with limited capabilities to pratice techniques...
Then, once you had had learned new methods of colorizing, IF you will apply new techniques or not, it will be only matter just by your own judgement.
But sure the fact you will explore new solutions will made you more praticed and skilled.
Don't worry!
You will not renounce your style, neither you will betray yourself. ;012
Evolution is a given for anyone who practices something on a regular basis. Case in point, Thurosis wanted sharper color, so he began the practice of using digital paint (Photoshop, etc.). He wanted better and smaller GIFs, he eventually sought out ImageReady.
But the idea of "professional" is an extremely subjective term, so in trying to aim for professional, he as an artist is inherently making the decision to consciously imitate something.
Not saying that's bad,.. I myself am ALL about imitation, because I love imitating things (like a master coin forger... ^__^).
But if you respect your own artwork (not all people do), then you have to take steps to ensure that imitation is used to enhance your work, and not replace it entirely. -.-
For that reason, it's better to think this through strategically,... select a small component that you want to be able to draw, set that as your goal, then take steps to learn how to reach that goal.
Digital paint was one solution. It saves money and produces clean and rich imagery (if used properly, which he's done so far). -v-
The question is, what other SPECIFIC things does Thurosis admire about those pictures that he wants to see carried over in his work?
The hair? The highlights? The stiff shading? the way the clothing flows? The modern variations of eye patterns? etc etc...
Perhaps thinking through this in that kind of logical progression helps ease these techniques into his style (evolution, if you want to call it that... -v-). Especially when he's drawing as a hobby and not being paid for it, we can afford to make such a thing nice and slow.... -.-
I want to improve my skills! but I i don't want to imitate someone or downgrade my arts/chars
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The question is, what other SPECIFIC things does Thurosis admire about those pictures that he wants to see carried over in his work?
The hair? The highlights? The stiff shading? the way the clothing flows? The modern variations of eye patterns? etc etc...
You hit the point C-Chan! I want to shade better, better highlightings etc etc.
Because in the past few weeks i thought about my arts (good in their own way) but arn't good enough ((but love/like those pics) so i was frustrated and i was more frustrated as i saw that my progression was going to stuck -.-
I like/love those characters that i disgned and i always (still) want to see my own chars in anime-cel style and or animated (becasue this give me the feeling that they are alive)(maybe i have/put too many deep feelings in that...)
Want to know why I put so many feelings in it?
here is the story (read it only if you want to know more about me)
I was always lonely when i was a small kid becasue (i was a chinese in germany) (i was different) from classmates so i was bullied a long time) and this caused that I was afraid to go outside. (and i had no friends)
So at home i always read mangas and watch Animes and i thought those anime-chars were real persons... (they were my only "friends" at those time and i always want to be with them)
i started to draw because i thought i could change the fate of those anime-characters in the series ;013,
I was shocked too after i notice that those characters weren't real and that i couldn't change anything... ;026
i have a older sister (who was born with the talent to draw) who always said to me that i will never be so good like her... (so i was enviously to my sister and other artists)
so i stoped to draw because, since then i was thinking that only people born with "that" talent can draw... (And after the shock i always said if i only can... if i only can...)
After some years when i was 14 and was in singpore(holidays) i saw normal kids drawing! those pics arn't bad or good ether but they could draw! So i started again with 15.
With some kind of iron-will and after three(now four) years of troubles, i reached a small part of my (life)wish/dream ... I can draw.
Many thing of my own character changed. So i'm not enviously anymore to all artists and my sister who could draw better than me...
(this isn't a detailed story of my life but i hope you all undersant me a little bit better)
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I want to see/use those techniques in my wn arts... how did you do that c-chan??? the coloring, highlighting, etc etc...
Thank you for telling me that,... your story finally gives me an idea of where you're coming from and what your main goal is. Once I know what your goal is, I know how I can help you. -v-
Stand by, I'll give you a very quick demonstration of what my own technique is (hopefully others will tell you how they go about it).
Don't worry if you don't see any activity from me even though I still show up in the forum registry, since I'm still technically working (from home) and simultaneously fiddling with the sound test. ^___^'
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First a preamble, skip if you want to ....
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In some ways, I suppose your story mirrors mine a little. Not that I was ethnically different from the kids I went to school with, but because I was literally the only boy in my [intermediary] school that cared about studying. You either goof off or you don't, and since I vehemently chose not to, I would be made to suffer for it. I graduated from that hellhole with top honors and all that jazz. But I still felt angry nonetheless because I knew that I didn't excel because I was intelligent, rather because everyone else was an idiot. I left there learning nothing except how to fight, how to survive with people which just never gave a damn about bettering themselves. In other words, I felt my life and time squandered.... I suppose at least half of my current cynicism about many things can be traced back to these years.
So I guess it's no surprise that once I began to draw (pre-Anime style), I also got attached to my characters because I pictured them as crafting an ideal society. Everything that I saw wrong in the world, they managed a solution. Any technological or architectural idea that I imagined would better the world, they would use. Any vista that I would yearn to see (like a beautiful sunset on a beach) I would try to craft on paper in any way I could (then colored pencils).
While I was not anti-social per se, I did shut myself off from the workings of the world for a while, given how engrossed I was in this perfect world of mine.
But just like how I imagine you had to learn to make real friends, I also had to eventually snap my head back to reality.
I don't regret the decision, since being involved in the ways of the world is not only interesting, but offers you the chance to do SOMETHING about it. `v'
Participation is everything,... as long as you keep yourself active doing something constructive, there's no reason why you should feel smaller than anyone else. -v-
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Now then, a little mandatory pep talk about Anime style....
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I'll start with more philosophy if you don't mind, since it's just as important to keep the right mindset as it is to learn tangible techniques. -v-
Many years ago, when I want to an Anime Convention center, I watched a panel of American and Japanese manga artists. A question was raised near the end by someone who wanted to know how to draw heads,... their shape, eyes, size, hair, etc....
It took a little while for the panelists to really say anything since the questions up until now were very philosophical rather than technical. Finally, one of the Japanese artists took to drawing a shape, and then trying to explain very technical details about shades, lights, the position of the eyes, and so on....
But for whatever reason, it didn't seem to register to the person who asked the question or to much of the crowd as there were general murmurs and chuckles (as if it was something they couldn't understand). In the end, one of the American panelists cut the discussion short and simply ended with something lazy like "Just draw however you feel like" or "draw as best you can" or something like that. -v-
In any case, that made me very angry. They could've gotten it if they tried to understand, but they didn't even have the decency to listen to the man. What kind of message does that kind of thing send about Westerners? That they could never possibly match the creative output of Japanese artists, because they can't take things seriously? That maybe they're reluctant to study, to analyze, to treat their art as much as a science or a craft rather than just a mere hobby? A curiousity better that they love and envy, but already convinced themselves that they would never be able to match?
To that I say Bull Biscuits, and my efforts to imitate the Japanese Anime style are in part to prove to myself that drawing this gorgeous style is not an impossibility. I also do it to express my admiration and solidarity for the art style and its many benefits, especially in the region of the world I live where Anime art is very rare. -v-
The one misconception about Anime is that it's simply an art style,... angular characters with choppy frames and big eyes. But Anime is also both a serious industry and a story-telling mechanism.
Behind the gorgeous movies and OVAs we watch, there are brainstorming sessions, cost-cutting measures, staff management issues, equipment handling, script-writing, and most importantly, deadlines. The art is a delicate balance of trying to develop your work as quickly, cheaply and efficiently as possible, while still maintaining the mass market appeal, which nowadays is crisp clean lines, vibrant colors, bold shades and highlights, properly-blended use of CG effects, and of course cute girls.
The primary goal, however, is to develop the kind of fresh and original storylines -- and deep, endearing characters -- that have always been a staple of their loyal customers.
Thanks to the intelligent and efficient use of artistry and new technology/techniques, the industry has adapted wonderfully well against a growing international audience and increasing costs,
One would think the animation quality would degrade,.. and while it has to a certain extent compared to the rich hand-drawn animation of before, it has more than compensated by giving us greater detail, faster action, vibrant colors, cuter characters, stronger woman, and remarkable stories! That's the kind of goal-orientation that produced such gems as the Rozen Maiden that you like so much. ^__^
I think I talked too much, so I better start real examples tomorrow after you've digested all this stuff. -v-
But if you haven't done so already, start trying to think along the lines of a director or anime producer, and make some decisions about what you're hoping to produce, how fast you want it done, what equipment you need to invest in, what kind of technical "special effects" you want to utilize, what kind of script you're trying to follow to make your characters alive and 3-dimensional, and, most importantly, how can you improve inefficiencies that will hinder your progress, but not diminish the market value of your artwork (don't make them TOO shoddy). -v-
While you're thinking about this, I want you to consider this as your goal,... take one of your favorite ORIGINAL characters and one of your favorite OS-TANS, and come up with a scene (or a comic) where the two can believably interact. The reason I'm asking is because I strongly believe you will have greater enjoyment and pride if you can apply this new mindset to your OWN work just as well as you can to someone else's. ^__^
Don't draw it yet, just sleep on it for a while. The drawing part we'll take step-by-step. That will be our goal from now, until as long as it takes. -v-
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BTW, I'm going to start with a demonstration of the kind of shading I do. I will start with Inkscape since that's what I use, but I'll also show you how I used to do that in Photoshop as well so you can see if that technique can be useful to you.
C-Chan you are amazing! You understand me! ^_^
My parents (they are good parents in my opinion) tried to understand me but they didn't understand why i like to draw ... -.- but you do!!! I'm so happy becasue I found someone who can see that deep (or deeper than i do) in the anime philosophy!
Because my parents don't understand this philosophy so they want:
My parents want that I work in the hotel/restaurant business because everyone (ancestor & etc.) worked in the that business (since 150 or 200 years). I want that the wish from my parents comes true (to keep the traditional things, so i started to work/training(ship) in a hotel). But to be honest i've fun in the hotel business (because it is different)... but it isn't that what i really want to do (forever) since i was grown up with animes...
And like you C-Chan I want a ideal-/perfect world too so I create my own fantasy-world where want to be ... (a world without annonying things)
My parents educate(d) me well, so I can see that many kids & teenagers nowdays are spoiled & dumb. They don't even know how good they have around them.
For example the school/university: In germany you mustn't pay fee to learn. So they don't care about learning/studying. In all other countries you pay a high fee for it!
I really HATE all those teenagers who are childish, spoiled and dumb. They are so unproductive, lazy and don't have manners. The only thing that they can/ care are trends and nothing more. Sometimes they don't even understand simple things (like mathe or english) or each other (reason, action & reaction, Consequences)
They are so easy to get manipulated by the media.
About the theme friends... I had many friends (2 years (when i was 14/15)before i graduated from school) but from all those "friends" there a were only 1 true friend left right now (he & I created this http://www.davidbrucksch.de/ homepage).
I tried to keep contact with all other "friends", but i noticed that they don't want to keep the friendship, they are all to lazy to call back. -.-
There three wishes that I really really want, but they 100% never comes true...
1. A world without (social/politicial)problems (War, differences between rich and poor, spoiled childrens etc. ...)
2. Living/real anime characters that i love/like/designed
3. To have adventures/ funny time/ with them
btw about the japanese
I know them (well or a bit) becasue i was and stayed in japan (tokyo) for two months(summer vacation). I noticed that they are arrogant & egoistcally (not all but many) they always keep the best things in their own country, they don't really like to share (important information) with others, at least not if there are no profit. (in every country is it so but in japan there are more)
All those, i mean most of those good things that we know about japanese (good manners etc.) are fake/not true (like the smile of a waiter). [/b]
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Btw:
Reason why i draw:
- to be near/see my the characters that i love/like/designed
- to change somthing in this world (even if it impossible)
- to keep the "fantasy"-world alive
- to be a (pro) Manga/Anime Artists-Idol and tell everyone "YOU CAN DO IT"
- to be acepted in the society
(- to keep a promise a from a childhood girlfriend (had one in my past but i almost forgot about this if we didn't talk about this...)
I'm looking forward to learn it ^^
Wow.... the last 2 posts left me rather speechless. And in need to defend my fellow Germany even though this is a very difficult task. There are many people who are easy to manipulate, who think only with their eyes. However there are others: interested people with Allgemeinwissen, who do not follow every trend. There are also people who do not mention how much they learn because they think others might consider him/her uncool.
I wish you lots and lats of luckfor your dreams.Even though you might not be able to reach them, they can guide you.
Quote from: "Kami-Tux"Wow.... the last 2 posts left me rather speechless.
hehehe... ^^
QuoteAnd in need to defend my fellow Germany even though this is a very difficult task. There are many people who are easy to manipulate, who think only with their eyes.
true true...
QuoteHowever there are others: interested people with Allgemeinwissen, who do not follow every trend.
I know that but there arn't many like this -.-
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There are also people who do not mention how much they learn because they think others might consider him/her uncool.
(offtopic sorry)
In my opinion there nothing "uncool" about to be intelligent... the problem is there are too many dumb teenagers who think to get more knowledge are....ARGHH (sorry i don't know how to they it in english...SORRY)
Meiner Meinung nach gibt es nichts "Uncool"-es daran mehr zu wissen! Das Problem in Deutschland ist, dass es zuviele unterbelichtete/dumme jugendliche gibt, die glauben mehr zu wissen sei "uncool". Diese jugendliche wissen meistens nicht deren Umgebung zu schätzen, die sind meistens auch noch so armselig, dass die andere bzw. im Schulunterricht stören zu müssen um "cool" zu sein. Dadurch fehlt es denen, dann an Bildung und lassen sich leichter durch den Medien manipulieren.
Die jenigen die klug/Intelligent sind, aber trotzdem sich so leicht durch andere beeinflussen lassen, durch das Wort "uncool" sind aber auch nicht viel klüger/intelligenter...
Denn meiner Meinung nach ist es besser "uncool" zu sein und dafür das Wissen zu haben beziehungsweise (bzw). einen Job zu haben, als dafür "Cool" und kein Wissen bzw keinen Job zuhaben...
Außerdem wenn man es gut und geschickt macht kann man beides haben/sein.
QuoteI wish you lots and lats of luckfor your dreams.Even though you might not be able to reach them, they can guide you.
thanks a lot
Well, in a restaurant one 3 year old is louder than 100 adults... I still believe or hope that we just do not notice those who do value intelligence and knowledge. Call it wishful thinking if you want. And being noisy in class can have oher reasons.
This is true there can be other reasons ... but i still don't like those guys
man, I can't wait til spring break, then I'll have the time to read all the posts in this forum.
But, I think I should have my say here:
I'm not sure if I'll end up talking in paragraphs, but I may. We'll see when we get to the end of this reply. heh
As for your histories, I can relate a bit. Not entirely, since the days of my being a social outcast ended when I got to high school. I had a passing interest in art as a young kid. I would do whatever came to mind when I was in art class, and somehow, those ideas were at times... different. (eg: 1st grade, I use drops of glue to make stars due to the lack of a white crayon)
Anyhoo, as I got older, my sister got really into drawing anime. I joined in of course. Well it was a bit discouraging seeing how much better she was, but I kept drawing. I figured that it didn't really matter if she was better cuz she's been drawing this stuff for a long time now, and I hadn't. She had more experience, basically. So I kept at it. Of course, my terrible time management skills kept me from drawing as much as I'd like, but I kept at it.
I still think she's better than I am, but I don't really care. I mean, it's not like I think about that when I draw. ^^ I think up stuff with my own characters, often when music is playing. Nothing like an action scene and some rock music. XD OS/2-tan I think was drawn with Inner Universe playing. Well, enough about me.
Ok, maybe a little more about me. (but involving you too. XD)
I did a lot of imitation back then. I still do. I drew in the style of the people who I admired. Also in the style of those who made manga/anime tutorials (in books and online).
I didn't really think about it at the time, but as I kept doing that, my characters would be drawn using little bits and pieces from other people's styles. I basically began to see what I liked and didn't like about people's style. Usually you don't notice what you don't like about the style until you draw it yourself. You have to "feel" it really. Draw what's most appealing and comfortable to you.
Now for coloring. It depends on creativity, talent, and equipment. First off, I'd decide on either cel-style coloring (like C-Chan's) or a more paint-like coloring (with all the blending and stuffs) I think the latter is what your drawings are leaning toward.
Looking through your gallery, I am liking what I see. ^^ I'm pretty sure you're using markers, correct? I have little experience in that area, really. So, sorry if you don't get much technical help with this. How many colors do you have?
In any case, I am loving how you're blending the stuff. All I have to say is, experiment. Do something different every now and then. If you can't think up anything, I have a suggestion: try and see what happens if you draw lineart in a color other than black. It might be good for backgrounds, so you can bring out the other parts of the pic inked in black.
Random points on other things:
I avoid the media. I don't understand why people get sucked into those things. Find the information yourself, darn you. Don't let other people tell you what to think you lazy butts.
Ah, the Japanese. I was there for a week. I rather enjoyed it. (I'm not speaking from a position of authority here, but this is what I think)
Yes, many people are nationalistic, hence their "ego". Now about their polite nature, really it's just how they were taught to act, what's "proper" in their society. It's not a very individualistic one. It's unlikely to see a person showing their frustration in front of people they don't know. But they were genuinely curious at the antics of my gaijin friends. And that was fun. XD
QuoteOS/2-tan I think was drawn with Inner Universe playing. Well, enough about me.
GAAAAAAAAH!!!! SLEEPYD - YOU - ARE -THE -MAN!!!! ^V^
I too had a lot of action-themed or gloomy music playing when I first drew OS/2-tan (including the soundtrack to 28 days). ^.^
Coincidentally, 'Inner Universe' was one of them, although I can see it being more useful in that awesome pic you did. ^v^
Was hoping to make that her theme, but eventually decided to port it over to a CIOST-tan instead (likely VMS-tan). ON THE OTHER HAND, I would like to use 'Rise' (the opening for GITS 2nd GIG) as OS/2-tan's theme! ^.^
Anyway, sorry if I might sound a little trite,... I definitely appreciate how much you've all opened your hearts on this thread, and I guess that does reinforce that we all have a lot more in common than we think. ^___^
Nonetheless, a lot of stuff has come up so my time is limited; besides, I do prefer to keep the focus on the artwork, otherwise the goal-oriented approach I'm trying to emphasize to Thurosis will get lost. -v-
I think somewhere he approved this thread as a
Picture Thread, so i guess I should get started then... ^__^
(BTW, I also approve finding information yourself,... perhaps it could save your life, but it WILL definitely save you money. ^__^)
*begins typing tutorial*
Added after 34 minutes: CHAPTER 1: SHADING IN INKSCAPE [HEADS]As you know, Inkscape is my favorite vector graphics program that allows you to cimbine and manipulate strokes, paths, shapes and other special effects to create artistic imagery. Traditionally, the vector graphics have always been precision-based, so except for the introduction of blur tools, pictures have always looked too sharp and cartoony for most purposes. Fortunately, the modern Anime style builds on this look, making Inkscape a very efficient tool for Anime cel-rendering.
Now then, for this lesson, we're gonna focus just on shading the head.
Below you'll see the half-finished 3.1-sama I drew a little while ago.
First thing is to think like a director, and start to imagine where the light source is coming from (or if there will be more than one).
Notice that I added a 2 o'clock sun to give you an idea of where I want to position the shading. The length of the shadows are very moderate, indicating that the light is coming slightly forward; if it came from behind her, the shadows would be either too long, or her whole face would be covered in darkness.
I won't go into details on how I constructed her,... just know at least that she's built from various pieces of different shapes, sizes and colors superimposed.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial01.jpg)
Next, select all components that make up the hair bordering her face (in this case 5) by holding the SHIFT key while you select them.
Once the selection is done, press CTRL+D to duplicate them all and CTRL + + to Unite them all into a single image. Change the color to better differentiate it from the original hair below:
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial02.jpg)
Next, remove the stroke and convert the path color to a reddish hue (to blend better with the face). Then, reduce the transparency to about 40% or so, depending on how strong you want your shadows to look. High contrast between light and dark areas is a staple in Anime, but don't go too overboard. ^__^
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial03.jpg)
Next, select the original head shape, and press CTRL + D to duplicate it. The duplicated shape will automatically appear on top of the transparent hair shadow.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial04.jpg)
Next, SHIFT select both the duplicated head and the hair shadow, and go to Object>Clip>Set. The shadow is now confined within the shape of the head.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial05.jpg)
Next, hit PageDown to move the new shadow down to just shy over the original head shape. If you miss it (it disappears under the head), just press PageUp to position it over. Each shape in Inkscape is the equivalent of a Layer in Photoshop, so you can reposition the shapes without necessarily affecting those above or below it.
While Inkscape does have Layers, I rarely use them except to hide jobs that take up too much memory to display (e.g., heavy blur effects).
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial06.jpg)
Once again, duplicate the head, but this time do it TWICE. Leave the first duplicate alone, but change the color of the second one and shift it slightly to the right. (we'd shift it more if the shadows were more dramatic)
Since chibi 3.1-sama has no nose, we needn't worry about nose shadows for this tutorial. ^.^
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial07.jpg)
Next, select both duplicate heads, then hit CTRL + - to create a boolean Difference cut which leaves only a sliver of the duplicated head.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial08.jpg)
Next, reselect the hair shadow, press CTRL + C to copy, reselect the face sliver, and press CTRL + SHIFT + V to paste JUST THE STYLE of the hair shadow. This means that the sliver inherits the same transparency, giving you an idea of what the shading would look like. Do any fixes you want here (for example, this would've been an excellent time to add in nose shadows... ^.^).
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial09.jpg)
Finally, select both the sliver shadows and the hair shadows and press CTRL + + to unite them both. The sliver is automatically pulled down to the level of the hair shadow, and now one massive shadow exists over the face.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial10.jpg)
Even though it does look flat, this is standard Anime fare (a good cost-saving measure for animation production). Moreover, some Anime series go the extra step and create further subdivisions of shading, meaning you would have to add shading over the shading in places where light reaches the least.
Anyway, this concluces today's lesson,.. I wanted it to be simple since it's a very simple time-saving technique, but forgot how long I can make tutorials span. ^^;
I might do the Photoshop version on Monday.
Added after 10 minutes: BTW, Thurosis, if you don't mind,... can you please change the name of this thread? It kind of.................................... worries me ^^;
Try something like "Anime-Style Drawing", or something like that. ^.^;
Wow! Amazing Amazing! The Tutorial is very good!
thanks C-Chan! ^^
I will change the name if i only know how ^^"
But i have some questions : this is the shading, right? So did you color 3.1-sama (base/ground colors) with photoshop? Or did you color 3.1-sama with inkscape too???
Or will you tell me those things on monday?
@C-Chan
*droooling* now i really want to have inkscape....
i'll download it even if i have to wait a day to get it done !
And....i never think that adding shadows are as easy as that.....usually i add it manually without manipulating path....thanks a lot. Now i want to try it in photoshop ! Mwai !
*Swoons*
You're amazing Senpai!!! Now I wish I could draw something, just to test that out! ^v^
QuoteBTW, Thurosis, if you don't mind,... can you please change the name of this thread? It kind of.................................... worries me ^^;
No, no. It fits quite well. Maybe change it to "How to Draw like a pro"
Just look! There are at least Five people who post here whose art I admire, (I haven't seen the others' work yet ^^')
QuoteSo did you color 3.1-sama (base/ground colors) with photoshop? Or did you color 3.1-sama with inkscape too???
I'm 95.67% certain senpai did 3.1-sama in inkscape. She was part of a project that got canceled.
Amazing Tsubashi! How did you calculate the probability???
and which canceld project was if i'm allowed to ask about it??
Btw
Tsubashi ! Do you know that you are my first (art) fan ??? :D
QuoteAmazing Tsubashi! How did you calculate the probability???
Easily! Just follow this equation!:
(http://shs.nebo.edu/Tsubashi/equ.png)
Quoteand which canceld project was if i'm allowed to ask about it??
It was the Thai ME project (available for download)
QuoteTsubashi ! Do you know that you are my first (art) fan ???
No, with as good as your art is, I'm sure your lying! ^^
Quote
QuoteTsubashi ! Do you know that you are my first (art) fan ???
No, with as good as your art is, I'm sure your lying! ^^
No i'm not lying! That's true! all other people who saw my arts always says "cool" or something like that but they always forget that after few days but you Tsubashi are different from those guys! you still like my arts and you still remember my arts and didn't forget it like those guys!
So your my first fan !
And this make me feel sooooo happy! ^_^
Alrighty, what've we got. ^__^
QuoteWow! Amazing Amazing! The Tutorial is very good!
thanks C-Chan! ^^
I will change the name if i only know how ^^"
Thank you, Thurosis. -v-
Oh, and to change the name, simply press the "Edit" button on your very first post in this thread, change the topic name there, then hit "Submit". ^^
QuoteBut i have some questions : this is the shading, right? So did you color 3.1-sama (base/ground colors) with photoshop? Or did you color 3.1-sama with inkscape too???
Inkscape definitely. In fact, when using real vector graphic tools, you can essentially ink AND color simultaneously.
While you do have the option of simply exporting the lines to Photoshop, and then coloring them in there (most artists do that), that's only reserved if you want exceptionally high-quality raster coloring done. As far as Anime production goes, the more efficient option is better, especially if the animation can still be made to look reasonably jaw-dropping. -v-
If time permits, I'll throw in a bonus tutorial today for creating easy shapes in Inkscape. ^__^
Quote[@C-Chan
*droooling* now i really want to have inkscape....
i'll download it even if i have to wait a day to get it done !
And....i never think that adding shadows are as easy as that.....usually i add it manually without manipulating path....thanks a lot. Now i want to try it in photoshop ! Mwai !
Woohoo!! Told you Inkscape wouldn't bite ya! ^__^
Especially with version 4.5, it's never been more worth it to try it. ^v^
I'm very excited about the future of SVG as a primary graphics format. ^.^
Granted it will be a little weird to use since you're probably not used to doing it, but the more you know about what the Inkscape tools can do for you, the easier it will be to develop quick shortcut techniques like the one I illustrated above.
I've got a few more, and I'll be divulging those gradually as time goes on. -v-
In the meantime, definitely practice with the Photoshop vector tools -- while they're inferior, they DO at least get you used to thinking in strokes, nodes and paths rather than pixels. ^^
Quote*Swoons*
You're amazing Senpai!!! Now I wish I could draw something, just to test that out! ^v^
Don't wish, just try it out. -v-'
But methinks you're waiting for "something else" to get done, so I'll be sure the finished product inspires you somewhat. -.-
QuoteNo, no. It fits quite well. Maybe change it to "How to Draw like a pro"
No pro! You wanna get ban hammered by an unamused armored space knight? T__T'
QuoteI'm 95.67% certain senpai did 3.1-sama in inkscape. She was part of a project that got canceled.
Correct on both accounts. Because I like the scalibility of SVG graphics, I've done everything possible so that 99.9% of my images are worked in Inkscape. Photoshop is only around to convert the HUGE PNGs into more web-friendly file sizes,... and even that can probably be handled by Irfanview or GIMP. -.-
And yes, she's a character from a cancelled free commission project. -__-
QuoteEasily! Just follow this equation!:
Yep, definitely taking over the world.... -v-
Just look at that rocket science equation. `v'
QuoteIt was the Thai ME project (available for download)
Yes, the ME-tan portion of that image is available to download free from the SVG folder of the Downloads section.
http://ostan-collections.net/downloads.php?cat=7
The picture of the two is naturally posted up in my Scrap Art Gallery (near the very end):
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/thumbnails.php?album=74
QuoteNo i'm not lying! That's true! all other people who saw my arts always says "cool" or something like that but they always forget that after few days but you Tsubashi are different from those guys! you still like my arts and you still remember my arts and didn't forget it like those guys!
So your my first fan !
And this make me feel sooooo happy!
You should be a little more careful about how you say things 'round here. Remember before that you complained about how all the kids you were with were "childish, spoiled and dumb... unproductive, lazy and don't have manners". So if you want to keep the right to say that with impunity, you've got to be careful about not sounding like that yourself, even if that's not your intention. -v-;
In any event, I'll look into squeezing that extra Inkscape demonstration before day's end, now that I've gotten a few people (some who've posted, some who've not) that are interested in the program. -v-
Though I'd love to be around 24/7 to help new initiates, I know that's impossible. ^__^
Nonetheless, for anyone willing to try it out on your own, these tutorials are excellent (though won't help you specifically with Anime cel-shading):
http://www.inkscape.org/doc/index.php?lang=en
Quoteall other people who saw my arts always says "cool" or something like that but they always forget that after few days
Maybe people local to you might say that,but I'm sure that there are plenty of people on this forum who view, admire, and remember the artwork you've posted here. Believe me, I am one of many. ^^
QuoteAnd this make me feel sooooo happy!
Yokatta, you should be happy more often! ^^;
QuoteDon't wish, just try it out. -v-'
Well, this isn't my normal "I'm bad at drawing" wish, this is an "OMGS! I have, like, twelve projects due and the server just went down" type of wish. -v-
Once I resolve everything, I'm definitely going to try it out! ^__^
QuoteYou wanna get ban hammered by an unamused armored space knight? T__T'
True, I forgot about that. Okay how about "How to draw like a pig?" ^.^
JK! ^-^
QuoteYep, definitely taking over the world.... -v-
Just look at that rocket science equation. `v'
Spheroidal wave equation, its not rocket science you know! ^^;
Ah good, Tsubashi-dono came to add a separator, bless his heart! ^.^
Sorry to post and run, but am trying to install Kubuntu/eComstation sort of simultaneously, so things are probably pretty hectic here too (though not as bad as what are likely Vista-induced server hiccups, I bet.... ^v^)
I'll talk more later, but for now here's my bonus tutorial....
Not really an Anime tutorial, but just a demonstration of the way you construct objects/characters in Inkscape. Like I said before, the process is more sculpting than actual drawing.
CHAPTER 2: OBJECT DESIGN IN INKSCAPE
For this exercise, we're going to imitate a very well-known symbol. ^__~
A simple yet elegant one that is quite conducive to vector graphics. ^.^
First, select the Create Rectangles tool and create a tight rectangle. Don't worry too much about height-to-width ratios (we'll handle that later). Since the rectangle probably defaults to an undesirable color, make sure to change the path to a light blue color (and a stroke of about 2 pixel-widths in length.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial01.jpg)
Next, select the rectangle and press CTRL + D to create a duplicate. Change the path color to a cyan hue.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial02.jpg)
Select the Draw Bezier Curves (the blue polygonal pen tool) and draw the kind of shape shown below in black. Start by inserting one nod above then center of the rectangle, two at the very center, another below the center, and then complete the shape with another two nodes at the far end.
If Kami-Tux is around, she'll probably point out that this is the trick I told her about earlier.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial03.jpg)
Select the Edit Path Nodes tool and with the SHIFT key pressed click and drag the top center node out to the right to pull a bezier curve. Then release the SHIFT key, click the head of the bezier and drag it down to curve the shape of the line. Repeat the same process for the bottom node.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial04.jpg)
Next, select both the odd shape and the cyan rectangle, and hit CTRL + -. This will boolean cut the cyan rectangle so that it inherits the shape of the two curves.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial05.jpg)
Next, duplicate the new cyan shape and change it to a different color to differentiate it from the original.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial06.jpg)
Next, select the Edit Path Nodes tool, select the two leftmost nodes and press the "Split path between two non-endpoint nodes" button on the top toolbar to remove the stroke on that section of the shape. Then, with the two nodes still selected, press DELETE. You should only end up with a tiny sliver,... a mere black stroke encompassing a tiny little path except on one side which is completely deleted. If you've ever done 3D graphics, this is very similar to having a polygon face open.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial07.jpg)
Next, remove the path color of that sliver to keep only the stroke. Then, use the Edit Path Nodes tool to separate the top and bottom nodes away from the rectangles like shown below. Also, increase the stroke width to 13 pixel widths to get one nice thick line (don't worry about boxy edges, as the design makes use of them!).
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial08.jpg)
Next, select the Rectangle tool again, draw a small 1:2 ratio rectangle in the light blue area, remove any strokes, and change the path color to black. Try to keep it relatively close the curved line.
Then, Press CTRL + D to duplicate the small black rectangle and move the duplicate over to the cyan side using the right arrow key. Try to keep them symmetrical relative to the curved line.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial09.jpg)
Next, select the Draw Bezier Curves tool again, plot one simple node on the light blue side, another on the cyan aside and press ENTER to close the shape (we just want a simple line). Remove any path color, switch on the stroke color, and make sure the stroke pixel width is nice and meaty (say, 15 pixel widths).
Then, using the Edit Path Nodes tool, pull the bezier curves in either end to turn the straight line into a pleasant smile.
Now does the graphic look familiar? ^__^
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial10.jpg)
I wanted to end here, but what the hell,... let's spruce it up a notch! ^__^
Reselect the light blue rectangle and change the path color to a "Radial Gradiant". If you've used radial gradiants in Photoshop, it should be easy to create one with a white center and blue background -- otherwise, click the edit button and modify the gradiant accordingly.
Using the Edit Path Nodes tool, move the circular white node at the center of the gradiant to change the location of the focal point -- in the case of the Mac face, to the top center area.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial11.jpg)
Next, press CTRL + C, then select the cyan half of the face and press CTRL + SHIFT + V to paste the the radial gradiant of the other half. notice how the focal point remains in the same previous position, so there won't be a need to choose a new location for it.
Go back to the Radial Gradiant window and press Duplicate to assign it a new gradiant. Then click on Edit to change the blue color into something a little more cyan.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial12.jpg)
And finally, since the real Mac Face logo is more square than rectangular, finish this off by selecting the right side of the face with the Transform tool, and shifting the rightmost border closer to the eyes/mouth. Rinse and repeat with the left side, till you end up with this:
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/MacfaceTutorial13.jpg)
And that should about do it. ^.^
Still plan to discuss Photoshop later on, so don't go away. -v-
Quote from: "Tsubashi"
Maybe people local to you might say that,but I'm sure that there are plenty of people on this forum who view, admire, and remember the artwork you've posted here. Believe me, I am one of many. ^^
Indeed. ^^
Keep in mind that while Jeff doesn't comment, he still looks at em. Note that I have a backlog of over 1,200 deviations to check, and I do plan on looking at them all. And providing critiques if you so desire. ^^ And that applies to all of youse. Aurora, C-Chan, and all. I'll look at them all. If you want crits, go ahead and ask. If I have something to say, I'll say it.
And C-Chan, great Inkscape tut. ^^
And maybe Jeff could add to your Photoshop tut. Cuz Jeff doesn't have the time to write one himself. ^^;
Thank you SleepyD. ^__^
Just popping in, btw, to state the sad yet predictable news that the Photoshop tutorial will have to wait till tomorrow.
Got far too engrossed installing Kubuntu and eComstation. ^.^'
But yeah --and definitely now that the title's been changed THANKFULLY -- do kind of pile on the Photoshop pointers, since I myself rarely use it anymore and am forgetting stuff. ^^;
(kinda helps in my transition to Kubuntu as primary OS, since I won't be missing PS as much, but get to use Inkscape in its best medium!) -v-
Anyway, just as an FYI, I should point out that Thurosis also has the habit of sneaking in his drawings,... and given how quickly things get buried around here, it's no surprise if he has the notion that no one looks at his work. Case in point....
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11311/001.jpg)
Y'all tell me that that's not professional work? ^___^
But definitely, if not for the random picture generator, I would never have seen it. -v-
Or I would've seen it and liked it, but probably not commented on it (just like the Sleep says) if it didn't have something that I could relate to. -.-
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Haha! Just noticed I'm sitting on the Wiki. ^v^'
QuoteGot far too engrossed installing Kubuntu and eComstation. ^.^'
Yay! Hooray! That's a good thing to get engrossed in! ^.^
QuoteAnyway, just as an FYI, I should point out that Thurosis also has the habit of sneaking in his drawings,... and given how quickly things get buried around here, it's no surprise if he has the notion that no one looks at his work. Case in point....
Ooo! Thurosis-sama! How could you try to hide this amazing piece of art? I must be more diligent in checking your gallery! ^-^
It really is amazing though, and I like the plot! Good job! ^__^
QuoteHaha! Just noticed I'm sitting on the Wiki. ^v^'
LOL, that's Uber-Creative, Thruosis-sama! and very approriate! ^.^
Quote from: "C-Chan"
Got far too engrossed installing Kubuntu and eComstation. ^.^'
[snip]
(kinda helps in my transition to Kubuntu as primary OS, since I won't be missing PS as much, but get to use Inkscape in its best medium!) -v-
/me hugs C-Chan, provided he allows it. My opinion of you keeps on rising!
HAHA! You mean you had a LOW opinion of me before when I was just on Xubuntu? `v'
Nah, just kidding. ^__^
BTW, don't forget the Inkscape Tutorials on this page and the one before,... maybe there's something I mentioned that can help speed things up a notch? ^.^
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Oh, and BTWx2,... I hear you CAN use Inkscape in eCS, since it has very good virtualization. /C-chan is happy. ^v^
I had a low opinion of you when you were an ME-tan. :)
Wow, sounds neat!
Hey now, that was just a freak Pitkin-induced accident. -v-
BTW, sorry for not using Tux in the above tutorial, but the Mac Face is a lost faster to draw you know. ^__^'
Hmmm, I guess so, It does not matter now anyways! "Watt fott is is fott!" What is gone is gone!
I know... Mac is simplistic:)
QuoteThings should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler.
-- Albert Einstein
your mission Thurosis should you choose to accept it, and you will T_T, is to draw a comic like that with me finaly defeating my archnemissis.. the pig!
Make sure to make his ban hammer large enough so that he'll keel over under its weight and get crushed like a tin can. ^.^
Then I walk off into the sunset with 3.1-sama. -v-
FIN
Oh i swapped the ban hammer out for a nemisis force ban sword. What do you think? I think this artists rendition of me using it in battle is superb.
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4843/pic8bigvp6.jpg)
but seriosly we need moar comics of forum members
Quote from: "Tsubashi"Ooo! Thurosis-sama! How could you try to hide this amazing piece of art? I must be more diligent in checking your gallery! ^-^
It really is amazing though, and I like the plot! Good job! ^__^
thanks Tsubashi ^^ and everyone! ^^
I'm sorry that i didn't tell everyone about this comic earlier ! I was in the last few days really busy (and the next few days i'll be busy too) -.-" The Hotel where i work stroke -.- (so i think you all know what that means ^_^)
I wanted to tell you all (and wanted to make a thread) but i couldn't. In the same time i wanted to test you all (Sorry, about that) but since you all notice that comic, that proves that you all are good friends! (if i'm allowed to say that )
I just went over your gallery thurosis. Great stuff in there!!
and nice comic you have there! i'm very excited and i'm eagerly waiting to see more from you!!!
keep it up!!! ;010
QuoteOh i swapped the ban hammer out for a nemisis force ban sword. What do you think? I think this artists rendition of me using it in battle is superb.
Well, the artist's rendition is superb, but that ban sword could use another 5 metric tons of weight to it. It's still not close enough to your head. ^>^
Quote
I wanted to tell you all (and wanted to make a thread) but i couldn't. In the same time i wanted to test you all (Sorry, about that) but since you all notice that comic, that proves that you all are good friends! (if i'm allowed to say that )
I guess you can, but there's not much reason to doubt that to begin with. -v-
Everyone's reasonably well-behaved here,... a little distracted now and then, but unlike some anonymous imageboards, we're relatively kind to original artwork. ^__^
Patience, Thurosis, you shall have your Anime renaissance after all. -v-
================
Now then, on to the final lesson for a while....
This tutorial will be brief simply because you probably know how to operate Photoshop a lot better than Inkscape. -v-
(the process is likely quite similar in GIMP/GIMPSCAPE). Besides, it's also a repeat of the previous shading example done in Inkscape, so no sense in dwelling on redundant details. ^^'
Chapter 3: Flat-Shading in Photoshop (Head)The following are some fast techniques I've used before, based on snippets from a seminar conducted by a professional manga artist ("professional" in the actual sense, meaning he drew for money, not necessarily that he was a great artist).
Aside from advising people to save their work in ULTRA HIGH resolution (so that the lines are thicker, and the bucket/wand tools destroy them less), he also made it a point to keep the lines on a separate layer entirely. Color
underneath them rather than within the same layer -- this way, you gain greater freedom coloring AND can preserve the natural width of your line art. ^__^
If your lines are based on a scanned ink job (you sketched and inked on paper, than transferred them over into PS for digital coloring), then copy and paste that image to a higher layer and select the "Multiply" Layer Style. Multiply is something like a transparency mask, so darker colors gets preserved while lighter colors are made invisible. In this case, since the rest of your image is white, all that should instantly disappear, leaving nothing but the black lineart behind.
You can add more layers to your image as you see fit, but for this exercise, I'm starting off with just 4 layers: the color, the eys, the lines and the top hair....
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial201.jpg)
First off, select the Top Hair layer and duplicate the layer. With the duplicate layer selected, darken the color as much as you want (you can try setting Brightness and Contrast to -100), and then offset it a little like in the Inkscape tutorial. Add a bit of transparency just so you can see where you're putting it, but make sure to revert it back to 100% aplha when you're done.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial202.jpg)
-Next, move this Shadow Hair layer down, right underneath the Eye Layer (but above the Color layer).
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial203.jpg)
Next, select "Color Burn" as the layer style for the Shadow Hair Layer. You're also free to try "Overlay" and "Soft Light" if the scene calls for it, but Color Burn is a good starter since it disappears over transparent areas, and does a good job of blending other color elements.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial204.jpg)
Next, use the Magic Want to select the head, then copy and paste it to a new layer. Make sure the new duplicate is colored EXACTLY as the Shadow Hair shape in "Normal Style".
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial205.jpg)
Use the polygonal lasso tool to careful demarcate the outline of the non-shaded area. Once you're done, delete the color within the demarcation -- you should only be left with a sliver:
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial206.jpg)
Finally, move this Sliver layer up above the Hair Shadow layer, then press CTRL + E to Merge Down. If they're both colored exactly in their "Normal" state, the Sliver should inherit the same Color Burn properties and blend seamlessly into the layer.
With the two combined, feel free to play aruond with Color Balance and/or Curves to fine tune the shading a little (although for major alterations, it's better to temporarily switch the layer back to "Normal" style, and alter the color of the original shape directly).
For any necessary alterations to the flat shading, use the lasso tool to demarcate the lines, then (making sure the foreground color is still the same as the original "Normal" style color) fill in the area entirely using the paintbrush (or remove it completely with the eraser/delete button).
And that should do it...
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/C-Chan_2006/31samaTutorial207.jpg)
Hopefully, veteran PS users will expand on this further; raster graphics are a very flexible medium, so there are literally a ton of ways to go about drawing the exact same thing. ^__^
I think this will be my last tutorial for a while, but hope these three have been helpful. -v-
No one would go to war against greater demons of the dark gods and bacon still walking with a sword that weighed that much. No, this thing is feather light. Nemisis force weapons use the will of the user and the holy might of the divine one (3.1sama) to banish demons and smite evil doers... and its slices some nice bacon.
But anyhow.. since the vector tutorial is over, I shall work on preparing a photoshop tutorial for softshading for turosis.
*jots down everything*
These tutorial's would be very useful in the future, should enhance my PS skills even if slightly ^^
Anyways, any techniques for shading and texturing an object to look "metallic"?
All I have to say to that is shine and contrast.
Unless you want more... gritty metal objects, then I can't say much there.
Here, is a tutorial I used on that very same topic years ago. ^^
http://polykarbon.com/tutorials/effects/metal.htm
I'm learning alot.
Quote from: "SleepyD"All I have to say to that is shine and contrast.
Unless you want more... gritty metal objects, then I can't say much there.
Here, is a tutorial I used on that very same topic years ago. ^^
http://polykarbon.com/tutorials/effects/metal.htm
While I'm thinking more along the lines of anime metal effects, this'll do quite nicely ^^ ;010
i tried downloading inkscape but when i launched it it gave me this:
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7008/errorzi3.png)
what do i do? i want to be able to use this program, photoshop is so expensive
Yo Sam. ^__^
Are you by any chance using Windows 2000?
I would probably consider replacing COMDLG32.dll, but it's probably safer if we know the platform we're trying that on. ^^'
In the meantime, consider a reinstallation, or try downloading Inkscape version 0.44 instead. ^___^
Also, Inkscape and Photoshop are not entirely the same,... if you're interested in a free professional raster graphics alterantive (that stands head-to-head with Photoshop), GIMP might be your thing. -.-
(But in between you and I, would love there to be another Inkscape user.) ^____^
WELLL actually i'm at my schools library on an old 98, at home i have a Me, and an XP, but if i download it onto the XP my dad will say i'm loading up his 'work' computer with crap, and delete it. consiquently id do most of my graphic work at school, i have a computer there that no one else uses cause its so old. however its not loaded up with 18 firewalls and virus detectors so it runs faster then the new ones. lol.
Oooh,... that does complicate things. ^__^'
Starting from version 0.45 going forward, support for Windows 98 and earlier is being dropped, given problems caused by some of the new features (which are dependent on drivers that M$ won't support on that plaform).
I guess then you can try installing version 0.43 or 0.44 then. ^___^
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438
If you manage to produce some really nice pieces, maybe you can convince your pop to allow the latest version on his machine? ^.^
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FYI, Inkscape should work on ME-chan no problem. ^___^
The second page is up ^^
This will be my last upload in the next few days (about 3 to 6 days) -.- and i will be offline for a while because I have to do a lot of things ...
but i will try to be online so fast as i can after i done everything...
So everyone keep drawing/learning/doing something :D XD
I'll miss you all !
(I'm sorry C-Chan that i couldn't try to make somthing right now -.-)
Quote(I'm sorry C-Chan that i couldn't try to make somthing right now -.-)
No problem, I'm right there with you. -v-
Besides, I'm having too much fun with these comics as it is. ^v^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11311/002.jpg)
hahaha!! nice work!
what is C-chan gonna do with XP?
hope Thurosis comes back soon..
Better question is what is she gonna do with him? I think she smells sweet and sour pork....
QuoteI think she smells sweet and sour pork....
Well, that would explain the wide eyes and Exclamation mark ^^'
Though if XP-tan's arm is that big, how in the world is she going to get out of that monitor?
You've yet to see Ah My Goddess have you? XD
More please XD
Mahou!!
Quote from: "Tsubashi"
Though if XP-tan's arm is that big, how in the world is she going to get out of that monitor?
Exactly my question....
(http://www.kachon.com/upload/images/200739025281.jpg)
*squeals with happiness*
Infinity 0 is definitely Inkscape material.... ^_____^
By the way, don't forget to introduce yourself here:
http://ostan-collections.net/topic-125-1080.html
Hello everyone ^^
I'm back ! so we can continue!
btw i uploaded the 3 page ^^
Welcome back Thurosis-san. ^___^
And another shy one,... my my, seems like I've gotta post up everyone's work these days..... -v-
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11311/003.jpg)
The artwork is spectacular AND I'm being eaten by a reaonsably tall woman (I appreciate a good vore scene), so I actually kinda like it.... ^V^
Certainly a better fate than ending up in a biscuit.... ^.^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/Cchan3.png)
Thurosis-sama! You're back! We missed you!
Great Comic! I especially like "With whom am I talking?" ^__^
I missed you Tsubashi and everyone too ^^
Kami-Tux asked how Xp-tan can/could get out of the Monitor
Easy! Because the strange invention that i made (The Anime 3D Live Creator Device) if the thing got hit by this thing it is strechable ^^"
Gyaaaaaaaaaaah, that really does make her act a lot like Sakato.... ^^;
Anyway, you also said you wanted to continue.
Next art choice is yours, what particular thing would you be interested in trying out next? If you recall, the last 3 chapters involved:
- Flat shading in Inkscape
- Simple Modeling in Inkscape
- Flat shading in Photoshop
Captain also promised a soft-shading in Photoshop tutorial, fyi. -v-
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Oh, and just to be on the safe side,...
You've read this already, no? ^^'
http://ostan-collections.net/post-20004.html#20004
Cant' risk having you emo just cause you like to skip stuff. ^___^;
Good work for your cartoon. ^^
kekeke! lots of people want to eat c-chan. but who will succeed?
Welcome back thurosis! ;010
i would choose
- Simple Modeling in Inkscape (because we need that for the m-ova) ^^
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Oh, and just to be on the safe side,...
You've read this already, no? ^^'
http://ostan-collections.net/post-20004.html#20004
Cant' risk having you emo just cause you like to skip stuff. ^___^;
i saw that ^^ so i will continue making this comic ! ^_^
Hehe,... actually, those were just recaps not choices. ^^'
You can look at Chapter 2 here in case you missed it:
http://ostan-collections.net/post-18936.html#18936
But true, that chapter was about designing a simple abstract object in Inkscape, so I guess I should build on that by introducing step-by-step character modeling in Inkscape. ^__^
You got it, then! Chapter 4 will be posted within the next coming days! ^__~
However, since you're not accustomed to the program yet, we should start with someone simpler than XP-tan.
By any chance, are you familiar with this particular munchkin? ^__^
(http://www.kirbymario.net/council/misc/azumanga_chiyo_cook.gif)
Hmm...Chiyo-chan, ne-ssu?
Quote from: "C-Chan"Hehe,... actually, those were just recaps not choices. ^^'
You can look at Chapter 2 here in case you missed it:
http://ostan-collections.net/post-18936.html#18936
But true, that chapter was about designing a simple abstract object in Inkscape, so I guess I should build on that by introducing step-by-step character modeling in Inkscape. ^__^
You got it, then! Chapter 4 will be posted within the next coming days! ^__~
However, since you're not accustomed to the program yet, we should start with someone simpler than XP-tan.
By any chance, are you familiar with this particular munchkin? ^__^
you right c-chan something simpler than xp-tan will/would be better ^^
but i don'T know how and why but i know i got a "deep" again!
I just can't get motivated to do something right now -.-
I myself have been wanting to draw in anime/manga style. Insted of starting a new thread, I'd figure I use this thread insted :).
Are there any tutorials on how to draw anime/manga style?
If you want to learn Anime-Cell-Style ask C-Chan he have a lot more experience than i have in that. (and he do this with inkscape)
But if you want to learn to draw manga, you can ask me for some ideas or tricks!
But don't ask me to teach you because everyone must find their own style!
(btw i'm bad at teaching... ^^")
Thank you Thurosis. ^^
In any case, my dear 95Direct (cool Neptune avi, btw), this thread does contain a few walkthroughs on some rendering techniques, and was eventually going to detail the subject matter a little further. But alas, time and Thurosis' fortunate "coming to his senses" has cut the tutorial series short, and I'm not particularly looking forward to restarting it unless I really really REALLY have to. ^__^'
(not that I want to help, but I'm really pressed for time at the moment. -.-)
Fortunately, that is not a topic that is poorly documented... if you follow this walkthrough here, you should be able to learn the fundamentals of Anime Cel-shading without spending money on those "How to Draw..." books:
http://www.geocities.com/hamchoba/animex/animex.htm
For more, including links to manga style training, you can check this out:
http://otakuworld.com/links/howtodraw.html
Remember, manga is inherently more detailed than anime-style, since Anime is meant exclusively for animation (hence, unless you have a HUGE budget, you as a producer would be crazy to animate the entire movie in manga-quality artwork... ^.^;). That being said, a few questions right back at ya....
What would you like to draw, what experience do you have drawing (or sculpting, 3D editing, etc), and what medium are you interested in learning (pen on paper, or digital art programs)?
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Remember, manga is inherently more detailed than anime-style, since Anime is meant exclusively for animation (hence, unless you have a HUGE budget, you as a producer would be crazy to animate the entire movie in manga-quality artwork.
If i have the time i would do that even it would take years!!
But when i finished the training as a Hotel specialist (in 1 1/2 year) I will start to study at a University
(then I will have enough time to do the things that i want(ed) ;010 (maybe then ;010 )
I'd really love to draw a good *-Tan... I think it'll be difficult, but i'll try my best!!!
Not difficult at all if you have the right strategy. ^__^
Any questions, please let us know. ^.^
if u want to draw anime maybe u can ask someone on deviantart. just search anime tutorials and click on the first one then comment to ask for another tutorial.
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if u want to draw anime maybe u can ask someone on deviantart. just search anime tutorials and click on the first one then comment to ask for another tutorial.do it
so on deviantart there are a lot of tutorials. if u want to draw without ms paint, then go anime tutorials and then Crysa will do the rest!(anime artist on deviantart) if u want 2 draw with ms paint then search ms paint tutorials. hope i help. ^_^
Thank you, Windows-chan. I'm not sure if we have anyone else left who wants to draw Anime-style and doesn't yet have the means to do it, but I appreciate your willingness to help. ^__^
I used to use raster programs like Photoshop and GIMP to draw, but now I stick with Inkscape 100%. ^^
Speaking of which, would you happen to be [or want to be] an Anime Artist, by any chance?