Ever since C-Chan was talking about the first Linux-tans and Minix-tan I had the idea to draw them together. The Linux-tan in question would be the one symbolizing kernel 0.12+VM because that was the first Linux which stepped out of Minix's shadow. I wonder how I should draw her so she still appears to be a Linux-tan but has no references to nonexisting features. These are my ideas: her helmet has already the GNU-horns, but the KDE-gear is missing. Her dress lacks the USB-symbol (Is there one for IDE or ISA?), her spear has instead of a GRUB banner either a bash one or a tiny finnish flag. I think the penguin references should remain despite Tux only being introduced in kernel 2.0, simply so she remains similar to modern Linuxes.
Excellent, oh Great Penguin God!!! ^v^
I had a similar idea before, but no hope to spare the time to draw it. ^___^
Since this is the perfect opportunity to get that pic idea rolling, let me help you any way I can. ^.^
Physically: Due to the maturity of the OS relative to what she ends up being, I imagine her as a very small, young girl, around 93cm or so tall. Though by now she can cup both her sensei and her sensei's floppy in her hands, the disparity is still marginal enough to make the scene comical. Her hair is short (perhaps cropped around the nape of her neck), and her features are cute and diminutive (definitely "penguin-like"); and her expressions, while not fearful or clueless, do hint at a feeling of insecurity.
Helmet: I actually envision a penguin-bill cap instead of a helmet -- similar to the one Juzo-kun's Gentoo-tan wears, except with the addition of two small GNU horns on each side as you say. I think this better accentuates the youthfulness, while still being a foreshadow of things to come.
Dress: as you say, likely the same penguin suit as the one drawn by the original Futaba artists, except smaller and (as you say) without the USB-like symbol. You can probably add IDE or ISA embroidered near the neck area. As much as I dislike them, the flippers help accentuate her youth so I would recommend them. -.-
Spear: For a young Linux-tan, a spear only 1/3 of its current size sounds appropriate. ^.^
I have a BASH-tan in mind, so I would personally lobby more for the Finnish flag. ^v^
I have finished something: Minix-tan arguing with Linux-tan. This is supposed to remind of the Linux-is-obsolete discussion.
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-4536
Edit: The finish flag didn't look good in this picture. I hope you do not feel too confined by me mentioning bash on the spear. :)
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I wondered why the picture was so small and apparently exported it wronlgy... it should be readable by now.
Haha! Not a problem. ^___^
That just means her (BASH-tan's) name is on there, like a sponsor of sorts. ^.^
When I did Apple ][-tan, GS/OS was simply an inscription on an apple -- but thanks to Aurora, she also became her very own OS-tan. ^v^
The picture came out very cute, and it's kind of a refreshing change of pace since we hardly ever get to see any Linux strips where she talks. I'm also happy to see that you choose to use some of my recommendations. ^v^
Minix-tan does seem like a blast from the past, since you used her old attire in this picture (cyan "M" sweater with blue plants and clogs).
Now..... at the risk of sounding clueless...........
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...and please don't hurt the pig for asking, since I've only been aware of other OSes for barely a year.....
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...But exactly who is Coherent-tan? ^^'
A commercial Unix for PCs which at that time was really expensive (btw: in German I'd have said 'schweineteuer' which is translated literally as 'pig expensive'). While Minix was a course material for Operating System courses and Linux at that time was a toy, coherent was a serious OS. Wikipe-tan can tell you more about Coherent-tan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherent_(operating_system)
Fufufu... "pig expensive".... ^^
As you can see, even though I've tried to learn as much as I can about different operating systems, there are still many many more I haven't gotten to yet.
Doesn't help that UNIX-sama procreated like a rabbit, and probably has more progeny then there are non-Unix systems in the market.... -v-'
Even though it's understandable that Linux has not yet dethroned consumer OSes in the West (the same way it did for Coherent), its popularity in the east and emerging markets of the world could probably be the new "death-knell".
well, it did dethrone BeOS and OS/2 :)
SCNR.
But yeah, the emerging markets and the opensource OSes surely fit together well. I heard that in Cambodia Linux is preferred because khmer translations exist for some programs and more can be added. And was Windows ever translated to Nepalese? There is a nepalese distro of Linux.
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Must... draw... NepaLinux-tan!
Quotewell, it did dethrone BeOS and OS/2
Hehehe,... well I'll just consider that unintentional "collateral" damage, so my opinion of Linux-san won't sour. ^.^
(though you can never really sour at anything "free"... ^v^)
QuoteBut yeah, the emerging markets and the opensource OSes surely fit together well. I heard that in Cambodia Linux is preferred because khmer translations exist for some programs and more can be added. And was Windows ever translated to Nepalese? There is a nepalese distro of Linux.
And here I thought I saw everything with a ZeusLinux. That's fantastic, and no M$ wouldn't touch these places with a 60 km pole, but would certainly be the first to whine about a declining user base. ^__^
(http://www.wavemag.com.np/img/photogallery/wave154.gif)
I suppose a Red Flag Linux would also have to be drawn given the weight of the market it's in.
hmm, *looks at Lovee and other chinese in this forum* Someone here who knows how Red-Flag-Linux-tan would look like? If I draw her, she'd look VERY GDRish.
HAHA!! ^v^
Yeah, I'd wait for that too... -v-
In every country there's always a huge disconnect between the gov't and its people. -.-'
Then again, there's also TomLinux to help vary things from the norm,... Ã,¬vÃ,¬'
TomLinux? Wikipe-tan could not help me with that one.
Fufu,... good luck reading this one then. ^.^
http://www.tomlinux.com/
It's embedded, though, so not sure if that counts. -v-
Ah nice... DSL-tan's Chinese friend?
Something like that, I suppose. ^__^
From DistroWatch, I got a whole slew of embedded Linux platforms to choose from:
ââ,¬Â¢ AspisOS
ââ,¬Â¢ Arabella Software
ââ,¬Â¢ BlueCat Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ Darma NAS OS
ââ,¬Â¢ DIET-PC
ââ,¬Â¢ eLux
ââ,¬Â¢ EMC
ââ,¬Â¢ emKnoppix
ââ,¬Â¢ Etlinux
ââ,¬Â¢ Familiar Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ freevix
ââ,¬Â¢ iMedia Embedded Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ KaeilOS
ââ,¬Â¢ LEAF
ââ,¬Â¢ Lem Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ Linux Epia
ââ,¬Â¢ LynxOS RTOS
ââ,¬Â¢ m0n0wall
ââ,¬Â¢ MediaBoxOS Embedded Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ Metrowerks (Embedix, Lineo)
ââ,¬Â¢ MontaVista Linux (Hard Hat Linux)
ââ,¬Â¢ Midori Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ MyLinux
ââ,¬Â¢ NeoLinux
ââ,¬Â¢ OpenWrt
ââ,¬Â¢ Pebble Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ PeeWeeLinux
ââ,¬Â¢ Pico/Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ PXES Linux Thin Client
ââ,¬Â¢ routerlinux
ââ,¬Â¢ RTLinux
ââ,¬Â¢ RXLinux
ââ,¬Â¢ SlimLinux
ââ,¬Â¢ SnapGear Embedded Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ TimeSys
ââ,¬Â¢ Tomlinux
ââ,¬Â¢ uClinux
ââ,¬Â¢ White Dwarf Linux
ââ,¬Â¢ Zynot
And to think there are many other non-Linux embedded OSes as well. ^^
The only other CIOST OS-tan I have in mind, aside from VMS-tan, is an eCOS-tan. No real reason why since I know nothing about it, but figure she could harbor a nasty vendetta against Red Hat Linux-tan.
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BTW, I uploaded a few more SVG todays (open source Windows -- who would've thought the day would come when pigs flew?! ^.^), so don't forget to post your latest ones as well if you want. ^v^
Oh right, uploaded the two OS-tans. I don't think I need to upload Linux 0.12+VM-tan seperately, do I?
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Yeah, there are a few distro-tans. which at least means that you never walk alone :)
If there'll be a PeeWeeLinux-tan, she can be "Pee Wee's Playhouse"-inspired! :D
And C-Chan, can you explain eCOS-tan's vendetta against RedHat-tan? (I know nothing. But I'm learning a lot of Linux-related stuff in these threads though!)
QuoteOh right, uploaded the two OS-tans. I don't think I need to upload Linux 0.12+VM-tan seperately, do I?
No that's fine. ^__^
Our SVG collection is growing slowly but surely! ^v^
(though the number of people willing to give Inkscape a try is shrinking and shrinking.... -____-')
BTW, not sure if you noticed this since I just did this morning, but the downloads automatically default to "not free" -- that is, only members can download them and the files deduct from their "download account" so to speak.
I switched mine to "free downloads for members only" to stick with the spirit of GNU (while at the same time, guarding against the less kindly lurkers). ^^'
QuoteYeah, there are a few distro-tans. which at least means that you never walk alone
Haha, that's the biggest understatement I've seen in a long time. ^v^
It's my hope some day to see enough alternative OS-tans made so that a tapestry with them all becomes possible. I imagine at the bottom would be the principle Windows OS-tans (3.1 through Vista), their backs faced away from the viewer looking on at the spectacle in front of them.
That spectacle would be a veritable sea of non-Windows OSes, each marching in their own groups, carrying banners representing their faction or families, and cheering/shouting/singing as if in a million-person rally. Naturally the Linuces (marching with spears like hoplites) would be the largest and most impressive group, but you would also have Unices, Macs, Amigoids, Commodores, ZX clones, OS/2 clones, DOSes, DEC systems, RISC systems, handheld OSes, and all matter of alternative systems, past and present, free and proprietary, official or abandonware.
The general rallying call would be "We Count Too!" or something along those lines. ^__^
QuoteIf there'll be a PeeWeeLinux-tan, she can be "Pee Wee's Playhouse"-inspired!
*shudder* I'll be sure to keep the poor DOS-tans WELL away from her, then..... ^^;
QuoteAnd C-Chan, can you explain eCOS-tan's vendetta against RedHat-tan? (I know nothing. But I'm learning a lot of Linux-related stuff in these threads though!)
Something I read from the Wiki article inspired that notion. Can't make the Linuces TOO perfect, so i figure a little dark history now and then would help keep them three dimensional characters. -v-
QuoteeCos (embedded Configurable operating system) is an open source, royalty-free, real-time operating system intended for embedded systems and applications which need only one process with multiple threads. The OS is configurable, and can be customised to precise application requirements, with hundreds of options, delivering the best possible run-time performance and minimized hardware needs. A thriving net community has grown up around eCos ensuring ongoing technical innovation and wide platform support.
eCos was designed for devices with memory size in the tens to hundreds of kilobytes, or with real-time requirements. It can be used on hardware that doesn't have enough RAM to support embedded Linux, which currently requires a minimum of about 2 MB of RAM, not including application and service requirements.
eCos runs on a wide variety of hardware platforms, including ARM, CalmRISC, FR-V, Hitachi H8, IA-32, Motorola 68000, Matsushita AM3x, MIPS, NEC V8xx, PowerPC, SPARC, SuperH and Nios II.
Included with the eCos distribution is RedBoot, an open source application that uses the eCos Hardware Abstraction Layer to provide bootstrap firmware for embedded systems.
History
eCos was initially developed by Cygnus Solutions which was later bought by Red Hat. In early 2002, Red Hat ceased development of eCos and laid off the staff that were working on the project who then formed their own company, eCosCentric, in order to continue development and provide commercial support for eCos. In January 2004, at the request of the eCos developers, Red Hat agreed to transfer its eCos copyrights to the Free Software Foundation. The transfer was finally executed in October.
Quote from: "C-Chan"
BTW, not sure if you noticed this since I just did this morning, but the downloads automatically default to "not free" -- that is, only members can download them and the files deduct from their "download account" so to speak.
I switched mine to "free downloads for members only" to stick with the spirit of GNU (while at the same time, guarding against the less kindly lurkers). ^^'
Oh dear... I acted unGNUly. I did not see where to select that option. please forgive me! *hides face behind wings so no one sees me crying*
Quote from: "C-Chan"
QuoteYeah, there are a few distro-tans. which at least means that you never walk alone
Haha, that's the biggest understatement I've seen in a long time. ^v^
It's my hope some day to see enough alternative OS-tans made so that a tapestry with them all becomes possible. I imagine at the bottom would be the principle Windows OS-tans (3.1 through Vista), their backs faced away from the viewer looking on at the spectacle in front of them.
That spectacle would be a veritable sea of non-Windows OSes, each marching in their own groups, carrying banners representing their faction or families, and cheering/shouting/singing as if in a million-person rally. Naturally the Linuces (marching with spears like hoplites) would be the largest and most impressive group, but you would also have Unices, Macs, Amigoids, Commodores, ZX clones, OS/2 clones, DOSes, DEC systems, RISC systems, handheld OSes, and all matter of alternative systems, past and present, free and proprietary, official or abandonware.
The general rallying call would be "We Count Too!" or something along those lines. ^__^
*looks enthusiastic, squawks* I want to see that! I want to see that!
Quote from: "C-Chan"
QuoteIf there'll be a PeeWeeLinux-tan, she can be "Pee Wee's Playhouse"-inspired!
*shudder* I'll be sure to keep the poor DOS-tans WELL away from her, then..... ^^;
I do not get these references...
QuoteOh dear... I acted unGNUly. I did not see where to select that option. please forgive me! *hides face behind wings so no one sees me crying*
*takes pictures* That's right! Cry for me! CRY, you unGNUly person!! MWAHAHAHA!!! ^v^
Just kidding. ^__^
It's not too late,... salvation can be had by clicking on your download, and then by pressing the "Edit Button". The "free" radio button will read "no, yes, free for reg. users".
Quote*looks enthusiastic, squawks* I want to see that! I want to see that!
HAHA!!! Hold your horses now, Penguin God! ^v^
By "one day" I mean sometime in the D-I-S-T-A-N-T future, when more OS-tans become available (and time is plentiful,... *snicker snicker, chuckle chuckle*). ^__^
I mean come on, you haven't even seen Unix-sama yet, so there's no chance in a million you're gonna see such an epic pic anytime soon. ^.^
For now, sit back and enjoy the quiet stream of AmigaOS-tan pics, as well as those of her darling open source (and semi-open source) daughters, AROS-chan and MorphOS-chan. -v-
*sighs lovingly*
But yeah, the prospect of having multiple Linuces in one picture is kinda cool, since they would be like Hoplites. ^.^
QuoteI do not get these references...
Probably better that you don't. ^__^
I never liked his shows to begin with, and his post-1990 history is generally not pretty.
Better to free your mind from useless knowledge about celebrities, so there's more room for history, politics, and computer science. -v-'
Added after 8 minutes: FYI, I just noticed you slipped in more -tans to your gallery (naturally Gentoo for a Gentoo user, but the ME-tan was a surprise. ^^). I'm very glad to see you're really getting into this,.. compared to the quiet activity a few months ago, now you're really on a creative roll! ^v^
BTW, found this at OSdata.com a few months ago, but up until now there was no one here that might've liked it. ^__^'
(http://www.osdata.com/pict/mscement.png)
*lol*
I am planning a scene where ME-tan chats with Gentoo-tan and NepaLinux-tan. I had to edit the SVG by hand for the Nepali :(
But first: *waddles off to change the permissions*
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*waddles back and hopes its soul is saved again*
Added after 1 hours 12 minutes:
Once again a group scene:
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-4551
NepaLinux-tan says: Hi! How are you?
Hello Kami-Tux! Can you repost the question you asked me in the introducing thread? It will be better and clearer for other people to know what's happening in here!
C-Chan and I wondered how RedFlag Linux-tan would look like, but we both know nothing about China and that distro. So I asked for you to give us inspirations.
I got one in mind! It will be quite a lengthy one too. If you got the front, side and behind of the Linux-tan, maybe I can tell you what to change or edit for the RedFlag Linux-tan.
I ask for Linux-tan pics because I completely had no idea how she looks like.
Basically RedFlag Linux-tan got to have red.
You can dress her up in cheongsam, a kind of traditional clothes for female.
There are many kind of them, ranging from loose clothing to body fit.
The length of the skirt is up to your own personal preference.
For the sexy type, I suggest moderate height red high heel.
The eyes should be black or brown.
Color of hair can range from Black to Copper
Two long pin with flower on it. The hair should be in the clipped type (instead of dropping it down, the end of the hair is facing either upward or side but no towards Earth).
Pink blush on her cheek.
You be creative about Linux's logo on her clothes.
If you can't put any logo on her clothes, try putting it on her Chinese fan.
Is this what you wanted? If it's correct, maybe I can sketch a picture for you? I got a tablet and it is still pretty much alien to me! Gosh..
Very good ideas!
These are Juzo-kun's renditions of Linux-tan:
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-2614
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-2631
normally, Linux-tan just looks slightly like a Tux without using the logo directly.
QuoteOnce again a group scene:
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-4551
NepaLinux-tan says: Hi! How are you?
Ah-ha! Now I understand the addition of Gentoo and ME-tan! That's a cute scene! ^__^
And while I don't handle Nepali much on a daily basis, I think that came out very well. ^.^
BTW, are you okay with the files being set on a transparent background? Just thought maybe you'd rather have them on a solid white one. ^^'
Quote*waddles back and hopes its soul is saved again*
This is the Year of the Pig and the Pig says you're forgiven, so you're safe now. ^.^
Sainthood is still a long way off, although I hear you can bribe your way to divine favor with an AmigaOS rendition. ^.^'
QuoteHello Kami-Tux! Can you repost the question you asked me in the introducing thread? It will be better and clearer for other people to know what's happening in here!
Haha! ^__^
Most of the "Others" are too busy fawning over XP-tan's boobs to really care about Linux. ^^;
But yeah, the Penguin God was nice enough to repost. ^.^
QuoteBasically RedFlag Linux-tan got to have red.
You can dress her up in cheongsam, a kind of traditional clothes for female.
There are many kind of them, ranging from loose clothing to body fit.
The length of the skirt is up to your own personal preference.
For the sexy type, I suggest moderate height red high heel.
The eyes should be black or brown.
Color of hair can range from Black to Copper
Two long pin with flower on it. The hair should be in the clipped type (instead of dropping it down, the end of the hair is facing either upward or side but no towards Earth).
Pink blush on her cheek.
You be creative about Linux's logo on her clothes.
If you can't put any logo on her clothes, try putting it on her Chinese fan.
Kewl,... ^.^
For anyone who's not sure what a cheongsam is, it's what's referred to in the West as a "Mandarin Dress",... for the most part anyway.
To put it simply, it's actually what the new Linspire OS-tan wears.... -v-
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10227/1118909522686.png
Significant sex appeal possibilities open. ^.^
As for her spear, I'm thinking something elaborate along the lines of the bearded halberd that Guan Yu wielded. ^.^
QuoteThese are Juzo-kun's renditions of Linux-tan:
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-2614
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-2631
normally, Linux-tan just looks slightly like a Tux without using the logo directly.
FYI, the original Futaba Channel Linux-tan (that started it all) looked like this:
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/1152767977132.jpg
And for a combination of the two designs, here's my chibi version.... ^^
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/ChibiLinux-tan.png
Drawn 100% in Inkscape. ^v^
[No Photoshop necessary, except in coverting the picture file to a 56K-friendly format. -v-]
Quote from: "C-Chan"QuoteOnce again a group scene:
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-4551
NepaLinux-tan says: Hi! How are you?
Ah-ha! Now I understand the addition of Gentoo and ME-tan! That's a cute scene! ^__^
And while I don't handle Nepali much on a daily basis, I think that came out very well. ^.^
Thank you!
Quote from: "C-Chan"
BTW, are you okay with the files being set on a transparent background? Just thought maybe you'd rather have them on a solid white one. ^^'
Nah, I do it intentionally so people can more easy build upon them. After trying to get Ubuntu-tan's head from the yellow background to a neutral one, I thought this might be better.
Quote from: "C-Chan"Quote*waddles back and hopes its soul is saved again*
This is the Year of the Pig and the Pig says you're forgiven, so you're safe now. ^.^
Sainthood is still a long way off, although I hear you can bribe your way to divine favor with an AmigaOS rendition. ^.^'
hmmm, actually... it was Amiga-OS which used Guru meditation? Maybe I should draw her meditating.
Quote from: "C-Chan"To put it simply, it's actually what the new Linspire OS-tan wears.... -v-
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10227/1118909522686.png
TY!
Quote from: "C-Chan"
[No Photoshop necessary, except in coverting the picture file to a 56K-friendly format. -v-]
I thought for drawings, SVG is more 56k-friendly...
Quotehmmm, actually... it was Amiga-OS which used Guru meditation? Maybe I should draw her meditating.
Hehe,... will have to upgrade you from Kami-Tux to ZuttoZuttoKami-Tux. ^__^
We thank you! ^.^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/ChibiAmiga.png)
QuoteI thought for drawings, SVG is more 56k-friendly...
Well yeah, but I mean PNG exported out of Inkscape are in the high-quality 24-bit format, which tends to be very file size heavy. ^v^;
So I use an image editor to convert it to 8-bit color. -v-
Added after 32 minutes: Wow! I found someone very familiar here:
http://www.inkscape.org/doc/tracing/tutorial-tracing.de.html
...Fufu... ^.^
Okay, C-Chan, I do not feel good about posting this. Don't be cruel to me for defacing Amiga-Tan.
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k117/SystemKarela/stuff/amiga-tan.png)
HAHA!! ^v^
You think WAY too low of me.... ^___^'
I remember when you told me that you were a proponent of Western-style art, so I wasn't expecting a mirror image of my renditions of course. ^v^
I'm already uber-happy and grateful that you chose to give one of my girls a shot! And the end result has a unique charm to it, making her (if you don't mind me saying) my favorite Kami-Tux Special! ^v^
I only have one real recommendation -- since she is meditating, you can feel free to draw her eyes closed. ^__^
BTW, did you use a pattern fill for her Boing Ball shirt? ^__^
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BTW, the Pig hereby upgrades you to the rank of ZuttoZuttoKami-Tux!! ^v^
Although since that's a handful to say, how about just ZZKami-Tux? ^^'
No, I did not use a pattern-fill. I tried to give the hint that her chest is not flat like DOs-tans and therefore tried to 'distort' the patterns a bit. This would not have been supported with pattern-fill.
Oh, there are ways to improvise that. ^v^
But I do appreciate the extra fullness on her chest,.. at the age when she was released, I figure she was quite a dish given her system specs relative to other commercial OSes. -.-
Okay, I have replaced her image now... better?
Oh yeah. ^__^
Uhm... I'm kinda lost for words?
Anyway, I'll be posting up an in-depth of how RedFlag Linux-tan will going to look like.
I will try to detail her as much as I can and I'm gathering some information about some Chinese traditional clothes, weapons, etc.
Pretty soon I will manage to text them down. It will be great if someone can sketch them bit by bit of the detail given!
No Prob. ^.^
BTW, love the AVI,... but what's with the gallow....? ^v^;
I'll look forward to that. I know that my rendition of her will be very twodimensional. but my attempts to get the shadows right ended by closing inkscape annoyedly.
BTW: I uploaded a slightly improved amiga-tan to the Gallery.
Thank you, ZZKami-Tux. ^__^
But what's this about problems with shading/shadows? '__'
Oh, and Jereath,... have you given any thought to what we said about Inkscape? ^___^
I just can not make them the way I consider them to look right. I attempted it with Gentoo-tan's face for like one hour... So, it's not a bug, it's a feature... it's not ineptness but my style.
Yeah, I downloaded it but it doesn't have the pressure and tilt of tablet.. and I can't really sketch anything except for deformed animals..
It is vectorgraphic, yeah. Thi does mean some features of Pixelgraphic do not exist, but it is IMHO not a fault of the program. vectorgraphic specifically does not store every pixel but only the primitives, which were used..
QuoteI just can not make them the way I consider them to look right. I attempted it with Gentoo-tan's face for like one hour... So, it's not a bug, it's a feature... it's not ineptness but my style.
I'm wishing I had a template for what you consider to be the "right" shading/shadowing effect you're aiming for, so then that way I can help you search for a systematic solution. Without that, all I can do is root for you so that you won't have to shut off Inkscape in annoyance. ^__^
QuoteYeah, I downloaded it but it doesn't have the pressure and tilt of tablet.. and I can't really sketch anything except for deformed animals..
QuoteIt is vectorgraphic, yeah. Thi does mean some features of Pixelgraphic do not exist, but it is IMHO not a fault of the program. vectorgraphic specifically does not store every pixel but only the primitives, which were used..
Precisely.
There are tools included called "Draw Freehand Lines" and "Draw Calligraphic Lines", the former simulating freehand with a simple pencil, the latter simulating the same thing but with tilt and pressure. However, they're still composed of a series of strokes and nodes (or in the cast of the calligraphic lines, strokes and paths), so it's not true free-style as you see with raster graphics programs (such as Photoshop and GIMP).
That's why I tend to say that vector graphics are more "Sculpting" then "drawing", because you're laying out primitive shapes, then sculpting them to the desired appearance. (just like taking a rock and chipping away till you get a statue -- only you're allowed to undo your work and use layers... ^.^)
That's why it's fairly novice friendly, since anyone with an unsteady hand (such as myself) can just draw the strokes first in abstract shapes, then bend them carefully till the finally appearance looks like you want it to look like. Unlike raster graphics, it's very precise,... and up until Blur Effects were introduced, one would say vectors were TOO precise,... very ill-suited for photorealistc pictures. ^__^
If you want an example, my best free SVG download can be grabbed from here and you can examine the components at your leisure.... ^__^
http://ostan-collections.net/downloads.php?view=detail&id=70
For Inkscape tutorials, you can see this page:
http://www.inkscape.org/doc/index.php?lang=en
Well, that is the problem, I want the highlights and shadows to be not as exaggerated as in many drawings. I don't like it if color gradients are used too much. What I tried for >1 hour was to move 1 path without an outer line, a darker color and partial transparency until it was okay.
I just read something on the Inkscape and photo realistic is possible for it. A Brazilian used Inkscape and drew a tea cup with the sauce and it looked real.
What's a svg file? How do I open it?
SVG is a vector graphics format which was designed to be platform-independant, ie: it opens on Linux, BSD, Darwin, BeOS... you ought to be able to open it in your browser to see it, but that might be very beta! Inkscape can open and edit svg-files.
Yeah, that Brazilian coffee cup is really a sight to behold. ^.^
So are these, if I might add:
http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/index.php?lang=en
Another great thing I like about version 4.5 is the fact that you can create Unions out of multiple paths, and not just two. This is a real time saver when creating blank duplicates of my characters in order to simulate stroke/border effects. ^.^
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Now that you mention it, I wonder if Inkscape is OS/2 or eComStation compatible? I might just be able to play with a free copy of OS/2 4.52 after all.... -v-
Alright! The first version of RedFlag Linux-tan!
I'll start off with the head!
Face: (Your choice?)
Facial: Fair complexion (Fair with pinkish cheek)
Hair: Long (approximate below the shoulder and tied up with two chopsticks) (Use you power of imagine... visualize her!)
e.g. The hair of Saber in my avatar except the back of her hair is in Chinese chopstick style.
Color: Preferably black to brown.(?)
Eyebrow: Length (Your choice, see which fit better)
Color: Same as the color of the hair.
Eyes: Black to brown
Eyelash: (Your choice!)
Mouth: Demure sweet (Your choice again)
Lipstick: Pink,red,etc or none
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This is just some guidelines. Hope it helps. I will go to the next phase if everything is set!
Yo Jereath! ^v^
How's the Inkscape learning going? Cause you've got some great ideas that would probably translate better straight from your head, rather than to go through a middleman. ^__^
In any case, we'll see what we can do.... ^.^
Quote
Alright! The first version of RedFlag Linux-tan!
I'll start off with the head!
Face: (Your choice?)
I'd go for proud and confident -- the no-nonsense business-like air that one would feel when going up against the brute strength of Microsoft no longer seems futile. 'v'
However, she still retains a lot of the Linux noble spirit, so the look is not arrogant. -v-
QuoteFacial: Fair complexion (Fair with pinkish cheek)
That we can pull from Diao Chan or Sun Shiang Xiang from the Dynasty Warrior game series. ^__^'
QuoteHair: Long (approximate below the shoulder and tied up with two chopsticks) (Use you power of imagine... visualize her!)
e.g. The hair of Saber in my avatar except the back of her hair is in Chinese chopstick style.
Love your avatars hair and love long hair in general, so /Cchan seconds that idea. ^.^
QuoteColor: Preferably black to brown.(?)
I vote for black with red highlights, like a cross between the original and Juzo-kun/Aurora's RedHat-tan. I still want to have something to associate her with Red Hat, given the similarity of purpose and name. -v-
QuoteEyebrow: Length (Your choice, see which fit better)
The low-brow angular look is very popular these days for serious Anime characters, so I figure that would be preferrable.
QuoteEyes: Black to brown
Dark red. ^v^
QuoteMouth: Demure sweet (Your choice again)
Lipstick: Pink,red,etc or none
Mouth is small (demure), but pursed ever so slightly. A mysterious grin,... you can't be sure if she'll give you the sweetest 'Hello' you've ever been treated to, or a 'Checkmate' that will send shivers down your spine. ^v^
Thank you, jereath. ^___^
Soon there will be a RedFlag-tan in this world! ^v^