So we all know that Megaupload has been shut down by the feds, now Fileserve and Filesonic have shut down their sharing option.
Mediafire is next on the feds list after they finish fileserve and filesonic off once and for all.
This is becoming a huge problem with the government getting its hands in the business of the people, fucking big brother is going to be watching over us soon enough just like in China, North Korea, and Iran.
The Internet might not be a safe haven for freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and freedom in general. We might have brought SOPA to a halt but this is just the calm before the storm, the enemy is picking us apart piece by piece.
George Orwell should have titled "1984" as "2012" because what he was afraid of is happening now, slowly.
Time to crack out the ol' XDCC bots again, if we want open downloads and uploads we will have to do it old school!
This has been a public service announcement by Kraus.
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I am so not looking forward to having to torrent every freaking thing. >______<;
Quote from: Bella on January 22, 2012, 05:34:51 PM
I am so not looking forward to having to torrent every freaking thing. >______<;
XDCC and IRC my friend, the 90's have left us something useful for these dark times...
Quote from: Dr. Kraus on January 22, 2012, 05:40:25 PM
Quote from: Bella on January 22, 2012, 05:34:51 PM
I am so not looking forward to having to torrent every freaking thing. >______<;
XDCC and IRC my friend, the 90's have left us something useful for these dark times...
I have no idea how to use either.... any tutorials? : /
Quote from: Bella on January 22, 2012, 05:41:42 PM
I have no idea how to use either.... any tutorials? : /
Well, IRC's are pretty simple to understand.
Just for you and anyone else who needs a tutorial that makes sense, I'll trow together a quick video tutorial on how to use IRC's for downloading.
XDCC is a little out of my league so I'll save that for another day, for now I'll just do one for IRC's and such.
Give me at the most 1 hour to do this.
Well, I'm fairly certain new viable sharehosters will pop up - though it might take time, and not have quite the same level of reliability.
However, the main problem with torrents is the seeding factor. People share way too little, and moreover, people generally only have lines optimized for DOWNload, meaning that the spread is a lot slower as soon as you run into someone on some sort of DSL.
I might have to start using XDCC soon as well, just to stay able.
I definitely understand the concern here, as the FBI certainly put on quite a vulgar display of power this past week if we've ever seen one.
What has become clear in the midst of the fallout, however, is that there were indeed some shady dealings going on with MU. That doesn't justify the Feds drastic overreach and militant hammer-swinging, but it also doesn't mean that Anon's aggressive retaliation is helping either. The problem now is Anon's counterattack may only serve to bolster the pro-SOPA, pro-PIPA, and pro-ill-informed-internet-policy-making that's been going on here. There's now a clear example for politicians like Lamar Smith to point their fingers and say "there, right there, that's all they want - they oppose this bill because they want to steal copyrighted material", and it's going to be a much harder argument to shoot down because of the behavior of Anonymous.
Right now, the statement being made by the attacks in the wake of the MU shutdown shout "give us back our free music and movies. WE WANT OUR FREE WAREZ" when instead the statement should be "unwarranted search and seizure are against the law" or "a posteriori apprehensions are a violation of human rights". The problem is that the behavior of Anonymous seems very juvenile, especially considering their willingness to enlist the aid of unknowing twitter users and other web denizens. The SOPA blackout this past Wednesday was very effective in preventing a very dangerous bill from being passed, but it's obvious this internet "war" is far from over. There has to be a better way of dealing with these legal transgressions than attempting to make the internet a warzone which may eventually lead to a cyber police state.
When the system is broken, and you don't have enough money, tools or power to fix it, nor are strong enough to beat up the two big bodyguards at its shoulder - what do you do?
You start a wildfire in the forest around it to distract the firefighters, then burn down the house.
Looks like we're due for a good 'ol storm of chaos...
Yep, because you know I don't have insurance and I love sleeping on a bed of ashes.
Bah. The Game put too much system into place, we need some chaos to shake it off. Too much damn chains in this room.
Yeah, let's go ahead and scatter a few landmines around - that welcome mat was always so gaudy anyway.
Why is the upload speeds for youtube such shit....
Screw it, its going on my skydrive. I can still share it like that!
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=997f4c6d8db674af&resid=997F4C6D8DB674AF!181&parid=997F4C6D8DB674AF!107&authkey=!AD0lHB0WQkN9NYU
Enjoy using IRC to download, the video isn't that well done and my voice cracks a few times for no reason at all.
Quote from: IanDanKilmaster on January 22, 2012, 05:59:58 PMThe SOPA blackout this past Wednesday was very effective in preventing a very dangerous bill from being passed
Why does everyone seem to think it was themselves who stopped SOPA? Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but the decision to stop it came BEFORE the blackout and had nothing to do with the blackout.
Quote from: Red-Machine on January 23, 2012, 03:02:54 AM
Quote from: IanDanKilmaster on January 22, 2012, 05:59:58 PMThe SOPA blackout this past Wednesday was very effective in preventing a very dangerous bill from being passed
Why does everyone seem to think it was themselves who stopped SOPA? Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but the decision to stop it came BEFORE the blackout and had nothing to do with the blackout.
Does news hit a time warp before it gets to the U.K.? I ask because the decision to postpone the redrafting of the bill came on the 20th, two days AFTER the protest. Not to mention that many of the original supporters of PIPA also withdrew their support of that bill on the day of the protest.
I heard that they were postponing it the day BEFORE the blackout. I even posted in the midst of the blackout that it had been decided.
You might be referring to Rep. Issa's statements that he was told by the Majority Leader that there wouldn't be a vote on SOPA until there was a consensus. There was still no official decision to postpone the vote indefinitely until AFTER the blackout. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16655272)
My main gripe is I dislike it when people say "Fuck yeah. We did this!" when in actual fact, they had very little effect on the outcome.
I also dislike that the majority of people who oppose stuff have no idea of why it's a bad thing, someone's just told them that it's a bad thing and not bothered to research it themselves. Just like the majority of people who support it have no understanding of how it works or the possible ramifications of it coming into effect.
I'm a firm holder of the belief that people should not involve themselves in politics or lawmaking (or lawBREAKING) unless they understand what's going on. When they don't, all it serves to do is spread fear, uncertainty and doubt. That and a lot of bad laws get passed because somebody couldn't understand the big picture.
Please be aware that I'm not directing this at any of you guys, cus most of you at least have an understanding of how the internet works. I'm just glad I paid attention in politics/law class enough to get what's going on behind the scenes here.
Quote from: Red-Machine on January 23, 2012, 05:35:24 AM
My main gripe is I dislike it when people say "Fuck yeah. We did this!" when in actual fact, they had very little effect on the outcome.
They "who"?
I can see where some of this is coming from, really I can, but why do you feel the need to bring the vitriol in here? Why attempt to misrepresent my point to exorcise that frustration? I just see it as very counter-productive.
"They" was meant as an over-arching, general term.
For clarification: when people want to protest about something, they laud their right to free speech, say they're fighting the power for the good of the people. Which is all well and good, and they should be encouraged to do so when there is need for it. When the protest is over, and they get the result they want, they assume that the result was acheived because of their protesting and take the credit for it. Hence the "Fuck yeah. We did this!" mentality I was referring to.
Nobody I spoke to was even aware that there had been calls in congress and the senate to postpone the vote until after it happened. If these people had done their research, they would have known about this already and the "Fuck yeah. We did this!" mentality would have not been so prevalent. Give credit where credit is due, but don't assume credit just because the result you want is acheived. Find out if you had an effect on the outcome before you start getting the beers out and celebrating.
I was saying earlier that I dislike it when people support or oppose a law without fully understanding it. It's an issue we're facing in the UK right now with budget cuts and a few other law changes. Someone will look at a proposed bill, see something they don't like and natural human reaction is to oppose the whole. I hear things like "It infringes on this right, or that right" and "You're taking this away from me!" and that really bugs me, because if people actually took the time to read the entire thing and understand the meaning and intention behind it, they might not be so opposed to it in principle.
I am in no way referring to SOPA or PIPA here, those are indeed bad laws that need to be opposed. I'm just going on a rant here about my general feelings on lawmaking/breaking...
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The entire country is going crazy, at least Pittsburgh's general population understands what's going on and what this bill could do to our freedoms and such.
Quote from: Red-Machine on January 23, 2012, 06:05:31 AM
"They" was meant as an over-arching, general term.
The thing is, when you quote someone and then you reply in the manner you did, it comes across as very direct. As in, "what the f**k is your problem, you didn't do s**t!", and of course, I know "I" didn't have very much to do with what was going on in Congress.
QuoteFor clarification: when people want to protest about something, they laud their right to free speech, say they're fighting the power for the good of the people. Which is all well and good, and they should be encouraged to do so when there is need for it. When the protest is over, and they get the result they want, they assume that the result was acheived because of their protesting and take the credit for it. Hence the "Fuck yeah. We did this!" mentality I was referring to.
Here's the thing, you're neglecting to mention that the guy who drafted the bill didn't start back-pedaling until after the event. The event he referred to the day before as a "publicity stunt". Just because there was already rumbling in Congress over the bill doesn't mean the blackout itself didn't have an effect. More importantly, even as a symbolic gesture the protest meant a lot, as it showed that the people in this country
can put their petty differences aside and
can work together for the common good. Is it irritating that some ignorant bandwagon jumpers act like they won some kind of war? Yes, of course it is, but that's no reason to dismiss the positive aspects of this protest. If one to take your attitude at face value it would come across as, "your protest didn't mean s**t, sit your fat ass at home and fap". I honestly think it is good people feel as good as they do about this because it could mean those same people are more likely to become more politically active in the future. That being said, they shouldn't act like this is the end of it and rest of their laurels, certainly not. Now is the time people need to make their voices heard, and let the jackasses in D.C. know that we've had enough business-as-usual lobbying and politicking and want things to change for the better.
I would love for people to become better informed and help in the fight against legislation like H.R. 1981 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Children_from_Internet_Pornographers_Act_of_2011) or trade agreements like ACTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement), but that's not going to happen if I'm beating people over the head with condescension, rage, and cynicism.
i regret coming in here. why does everything devolve into bickering on this forum?
@kraus: i'll download the video tomorrow, but if it comes to stuff like that, we could all just start depending on each other. "hey, you've got that album? i've got this one! let's trade!"
though having the 90's options is nice as a failsafe as well. :\