Looking at the list of (nearly) all the OS-tans on the wiki:
*http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/View_All (http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/View_All)
There are some entries I'm struggling to create or rewrite, particularly with many of the Linux distro-tans, who don't have much characterization because they've just been overlooked for so long.
I need help developing some more characterization for several of them, starting with what little I know about these characters, and building on from there.
*Arch Linux: A very high-end, advanced distro, uses a package system called 'pacman'. All I have for her is that she'd be a nerdy system administrator whose a huge fan of Pac Man. XD
*Evil Entity: This distro got discontinued. Allegedly deceased, or at least retired.
*Gentoo: Another high-end distro, one meant for hard core Linux gurus only. No noobs allowed!
*Dream Linux: Looks a lot like OSX.
*Mandriva: I really don't know much about this one aside from being influential. :-/
*OLPC: Used in the One Laptop Per Child project.
I'd like to start with developing more characterization for these OS-tans since they came to mind first, but if there are others you feel are overlooked, mention them too. Let's make this a team effort!
EDIT: This thread can also be used to clarify details about characters.
well, i'd imagine that gentoo might be a tad elitist, given that she has no tolerance for newbies. same goes for arch linux, but on a lesser scale.
on the other hand, i'd imagine that OLPC-tan would be very kind, gentle, and patient, as well as using small words (user-friendly). :3
given her name, evil entity would likely be alive, but under the grid, working out some nefarious plot. xD
dream linux would be a fangirl :\
i looked up mandriva on wikipedia. apparently she's professional, user-friendly, and VERY close with the windows (mandriva introduced transfugdrake, which made it nearly effortless to convert things from windows to linux). she's french, and is an office manager (her parent company has absorbed a couple smaller locations, and is located in france).
mandriva also has her own club. xD
Those sound good! Another of the more elite Linuxes is Slackware, I wonder if she, Arch and Gentoo would get along, or would they clash and constantly compete over who has the most hardcore, nerdy followers? Either way, they'd be part of the more 'elite' alignment or subculture among the Linuces, as opposed to Linspire, Freespire and Linux XP who are the opposite of them.
I remember that Evil Entity-tan was portrayed as a vampire. A vampire mastermind? I like that!
Dream Linux would essentially be the Mac fangirl counterpart to Linux XP's XP fangirl! I remember that there was an old pic that Bella drew of Dream Linux and Linux XP together. On one hand, those fangirlish, outcasts among the Linux-tans need to stick together, on the other, might there be room for rivalry between them?
Interesting details about Mandriva, I didn't know that it had some connection to Windows in any way. But given that she's one of the more well-respected Linuxes in the Linux/Unix Consortium, she can be helpful to both the Windows and other Linuxes without being seen as a traitor!
i imagine that mandriva would be the one to keep her cool in heated situations, acting like roger smith from big o (the negotiator). ^^;
i also get the feeling that slackware, gentoo, and arch would get along, in their mutual distaste for "common users". xD
as for linux xp and dream(fighter), they'd probably be like meek and dejiko from panyo panyo di gi charat (their relationship is best described as the part in the middle of the opening; dejiko is the one with the green hair, and meek is the one with the calico cat hat) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmUcGopMTE0). ^^;
vampire mastermind = awesome. <3
So then, Linux XP and Dream Linux would be like Vitriolic Best Friends? I could imagine them getting along until the issue of fangirlism is brought up. :P
hah. i think they could agree on the issue of fangirlism, untill they start talking about who they support. ^^;
and i'm wondering what would happen if barbie linux wandered into the mix....
That's what I meant, the whole Mac vs. Windows debate coming up is a berserk button for both of them!
Between the two, Dream Linux is outnumbered! Linspire, Freespire and Turbo Linux are also Windows fangirls!
Barbie Linux-tan got shunned by many of the Unixes and the more elite Linuxes. Constant social rejection turned her into a yangire, but I think she'll still get along with the other outcast Linuxes... as long as they agree to be her friend foreveeeeeer~!
aw, that's kinda sweet. ^^ and it's odd that there aren't more distros that try to emulate apple, but that could just be because of copyright issues (like how apple tried to sue windows for the 2.0 release).
any others that need more characterization? (it might also be interesting to have the 3 elitists be secretly plotting against each other. >w< )
I have seen some Linux distros with themes in the style of OSX, but AFAIK, Dream Linux has such a theme by default. Apple did sue MS in 1988 because 2.0 allegedly looked too much like the Mac OS, but the lawsuit was dropped.
In '85 or '86, however, Apple successfully sued Digital Research because their GEM OS looked too much like the Mac OS, and as a consequence, GEM's next release was a downgrade and harder to use in order to comply.
Back then, the Mac-tans were pretty heavy-handed. Poor GEM-tan. :( She got better, and even reconciled with the Macs, though that was several years later.
Before I nominate some more characters, does anyone else have anything to add for these ones being discussed now? More input, the better!
.....think we should announce this in other threads. :\
(and good to hear that apple has lightened it's touch along with its colour scheme. xD)
Like what other threads?
wiki overhaul? topicless maybe? :\ (btw, why aren't you in the general chat anymore? :[ )
I usually don't have much to say in the general chat.
but we miss you... ;^;
any more characters we can flesh while we wait for people? :\
Now this is a much more fleshed out character, but her characterization could use some changes: QNX-tan.
QNX is an obscure but extremely widely used OS in embedded systems. Among many other things, QNX is used in cars, medical devices, power plants and airline systems. This would of course make her an extremely powerful OS-tan, but she's still in the Anti$oft Coalition because she doesn't want to abandon her friends despite their lousy track record as a faction.
She doesn't want to abandon them even it means squandering her own potential. I think this characterization can remain, even though she is in theory even more powerful of a character than I originally imagined...
but... nowadays, QNX has also entered the tablet and smartphone markets, as RIM bought out QNX last year (fun fact: RIM and QNX are both from the same area). In the 2000's, when QNX was owned by another company in the 2000's, it was free and open-sourced for non-commercial users, but that is or might not be the case anymore when RIM bought them out. So apparently, QNX-tan used to be an Open Source supporter, but turned reclusive towards them. :(
Maybe she also has a megalomaniacal side? My original characterization for her was a crazed scientist type. :D
Also, should there be a Blackberry tablet or smartphone-tan, who would currently be QNX-tan's boss?
well, there's an android-tan, and since we used to talk about the hardware -tans being "lower class" than OSes, it'd be interesting to have a hardware -tan be the boss of an OS-tan. :3
to be honest, i like your characterization, but i'd make her a little tsundere; all that power would conflict with wanting to support less powerful friends, probably making her a little cold. (the power might make her cold anyway.)
I originally also portrayed her as being surprisingly easy-going, but that -might- have to change. She doesn't strike me as a tsundere type, since she is polite towards others, and wants to get along, but would be better portrayed as often being distant because of all the responsibilities she has. One of her fears could be the fear of her own power corrupting her so she is willing to waste some of her potential.
Some role-reversal would be an interesting touch, and I bet that Blackberry-tan would revel in her leadership, but since QNX still has its own website and community, QNX-tan would still have some independence, though Blackberry-tan told her to give up on Open Sorcery.
yeah, i'd agree with the last part.
as for the tsundere thing, maybe not tsundere, but at least somewhat cold, even if it's not on purpose. all that power and responsibility makes it hard to stay all warm and fuzzy. :\
For three of the Linuxes, this is what we have so far for characterization:
Gentoo-tan:
-An architect, designer, and modder (some depictions of Gentoo-tan have Wrench Wench tendencies)
-Intimidating, does not have any patience for Linux newbies.
-Looks down on the Windows fangirls among the Linuces.
-Allied with Arch-tan and Slackware-tan, but also known to have their own rivalries.
Mandriva-tan:
-Friendly and professional.
-Level-headed, is good at keeping her cool negotiating between the clashing Linux subcultures.
-Gets along well with the Windows-tans, while still contributing a lot to the Linux/Unix Consortium.
-Mother of PC Linux OS-tan and SAM Linux-tan.
-An entrepreneur.
-Has her own club, the more cynical Linux-tans interpret this as arrogance.
Dream Linux-tan
-Mac OSX fangirl.
-Dresses in a bodysuit like OSX's, but in black and white.
-Close friends with Linux XP, but the subjects of their fandoms spark rivalry when mentioned.
-Is quick to reconcile with her though.
Anything else we can add on to them?
i would think that while dream was fangirlsh, mac wouldn't return the appriciation. while WE-tan hangs out with ME-tan occasionally and the windows are friendly with (if a little creeped out by) linspire and the others, i'd think that mac would just ignore her. i doubt this would deter her, however. ^^;
That sounds about right that Mac-tan wouldn't return the favor.
I'll look up more about those distros for some more possible character details, but in the mean time, I've been editing more articles on the wiki, including these two:
*http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/TSOS (http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/TSOS)
*http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/NOS (http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/NOS)
I know some things about their characterization, but there are more details I'd like to know, such as NOS's rivalries, and TSOS's experiences being moved from faction to faction before settling with the IBMs. IIRC, it was said that she wanted revenge against Unisys- I'd like to know what may have happened!
you'd probably have to ask bella about that. :\
also, this probably belongs in the wiki thread, but i'm slightly tenative about starting some of the os-kun articles, since when the picbomb died, i lost all of my graphic evidence of their personality. ><;
and since the website where i got them is gone too, well.....
you get my point. :\
EDIT: pixiv didn't have all of the ones i lost, but i found a few (of 3.1-kun). :3 so all hope is not lost. ;v;
I hope she and stew post in this thread, they know more about the mainframes than we do.
I know nothing about NOS, and the depth of my knowledge of TSOS-tan extends to her interest in television and radio and love for OS/360-tan. ^^;;
I was going to make a list of OS-tans and their "animal anthropomorphisms"/spirit animals - considering that these animals can be used to furthur characterize and map the personalities of characters, is this something I should post here? Or should it go in the wiki thread/make a wiki article about it?
Any conjecture? If there isn't a given explanation for those things I was wondering about, we can still try to come up with something.
With the overlooked Linux distro-tans being discussed earlier, Choco and I improvised some characterization to them.
I'd like to know what you have so far for that idea. It sounds like a good one, but I'm not sure whether it should be posted here or in the wiki thread. Probably here first, and move further discussion to the wiki thread if an article gets started from it.
NOS and TSOS? What all do you want to know?
Or any other characters for that matter.
I'd like to know more about their backstories, particularly the extent of NOS's rivalries, and TSOS's life in the other factions, especially her former connection to Unisys.
Those are the first two that come to mind because I was updating their articles. I'll see what others come to mind when I get back to more editing.
half the -tans weren't made with a personality. so i figure any insight into that is nice.
anything i can help with....?
All of mine have personalities; their stories just haven't ever been published.
NOS doesn't have rivalries so much as she hates KRONOS and SCOPE with a burning and undeviating passion. I'd imagine contemporary 'foreign' OSs were beneath her notice.
TSOS cherishes her time at RCA above; a time while not without its problems was probably her most triumphant period. She's embittered towards Sperry (and Unisys) for their lackadaisical treatment but things seem to be improving in exile with Fujitsu Siemens. Any lasting connection to Unisys is long gone, though rather then taking a active interest I imagine she just pretends they don't exist.
Thanks! I'll get to adding in those details to their articles! :) When more questions for other characters come up, I'll ask.
Quote from: stewartsage on June 18, 2011, 09:17:39 PM
Or any other characters for that matter.
I wanna know moar about that Univac-tan whose name I keep forgetting. U-1050..II, or something? I forget. Maybe if I knew more about her, I wouldn't keep forgetting her name.
All I remember is that she's smallish and has short brown hair. .____.;
God damnit Borya, this is like the dozenth time I've told you about U1050-san :<
Quote from: stewartsage on June 22, 2011, 10:14:19 PM
God damnit Borya, this is like the dozenth time I've told you about U1050-san :<
What? Really?! It seems like i keep asking and getting no information..... >:
I've given you all sorts of info! Let met gather it together again, for posting.
Sure, I'd like to know too.
Quote from: stewartsage on June 22, 2011, 11:13:43 PM
I've given you all sorts of info! Let met gather it together again, for posting.
Let's see... I know:
-She's shortish and thinnish... both of which are unusual for a Univac-tan (at least i think, I never did get around to characterizing their family)
-Brown hair, green eyes (?)
-Worked in the Air Force, was FASTRAND's boss
- ???
-No profit
I did some more research on the Linux distros mentioned at the start of the thread, and here are semi-finalized bios for some of them:
Name: Arch Linux
aka:
Debut: 3/11/2002
Height: 162 cm (5'4")
Weight: ??kg
Eye color: orange
Hair: blue
Quick Facts:
-Sees CRUX-tan and BSD-tan as her role models. (inspired by CRUX, and uses a BSD-style init framework)
-System administrator in the LUC.
-Quiet, stoic, and laconic- does not speak any more words than she needs to.
-Fond of old-school arcade games, mostly Pac-Man.
-Dresses simply but elegantly with a futuristic touch.
-Wears glasses, has her hair in a ponytail and wears Pac Man-themed headphones.
-Wields a bow and arrow.
-Doesn't keep secrets, doesn't like to hide things. (doesn't hide complexity of the system, attempts to would only make it more complex)
-Prefers command lines over graphics.
-Friends with HURD-tan.
Name: Mandriva
aka: Mandrakelinux
Debut: 7/23/1998
Height: 170 cm (5'7")
Weight: ??kg
Eye color: blue
Hair: brown
Quick Facts:
-One of Red Hat's daughters.
-Mother of PCLOS and SAM.
-Is from France, and also has ties to Brazil (originated and headquartered in France, development center is in Brazil, where the Conectiva, which merged into Mandriva is also from).
-Professional, level-headed and friendly.
-An office manager.
-Wears a long blue skirt and yellow blouse decorated with a pearl necklace.
-Decorates her hair with star-shaped hair clips.
-Diplomatic, friends with the Windows-tans while keeping loyalty to the Linuces.
-Has her own fanclub, more cynical Unixes and Linuxes see it as narcissism.
-Started suffering hardship in 2006, is trying to get her life back together.*
*The Mandriva distro forked into Mageia in 2010, released in Jun 2011 by Mandriva developers that were laid off after their parent company got liquidated. I don't know if Mageia-tan should be Mandriva-tan's daughter and assistant, or they should be the same character, with Mageia-tan being Mandriva-tan's new identity.
Name: Dreamlinux
aka:
Debut: 2/10/2006
Height: ???cm
Weight: ??kg
Eye color: Blue
Hair: Brown
Quick Facts:
-Hard to get to know (hard to install, most average users would give up), but is very friendly once you get to (user-friendly despite difficult installation process).
-Gets along better with intermediate and advanced Linux users. (not meant to be a newbie distro, requires use of command line)
-Very resourceful and ambitious. (developed by only 3 people)
-Values aesthetics and functionality alike, is an artist and a programmer.
-Fangirl of OSX-tan, even though OSX-tan doesn't acknowledge her.
-Mainly friends with Linux XP-tan, Linspire-tan and Freespire-tan; also has some respect from the more advanced Linuces.
-Gets along great with Linux XP-tan until the topic of fangirlism is brought up. They are quick to reconcile after arguments though.
-Has long brown hair and wears a bodysuit similar to OSX-tan's, but in black and white.
if Mandriva morphed into Mageia, then it should be her new identity. if Mandriva still exists as a standalone, then Megeia should be her daughter. :\
I had in mind either of those options, but haven't decided which one.
well, does the distro still exist or doesn't it? it can't be both. :\
OS-tan Rule of thumb: LESS > MORE.
Just as SLS morphed into Slackware, SunOS became Solaris (later OpenSolaris), and VMS -> OpenVMS, we should say Mandriva has "reinvented" herself as Mageia.
I was also thinking about that rule, but wasn't quite sure if Mageia-tan should be the same character because Mandriva is still widely used. But it's safe to say that she's transitioning into her new identity as Mageia-tan.
Do you agree with the info for the other characters? Does it sound good?
i agree with the other characters. but i think it would be cute to have Mageia as a daughter-figure. :\
and i don't think of that as a 'rule', per se. :\ that's more a preference.
I'd say Mandriva->Mageia.
And what we call "rules" are actually more like...guidelines.
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you guys follow the 'guidelines'. doesn't mean everyone has to. :\
also, tenkohime mentioned adding some characterization to Safari. i figure if we're going to work on this, why not hit up similar characters?
if anyone remembers this thread, (http://ostan-collections.net/forum/index.php/topic,1188.msg76560.html#msg76560), you'd remember that soul-reply.net had small characterizations of lots of os-tans, but some of them weren't quite as complete as they could be.
so, i vote that we give Safari, IE, the Moezillas, and Opera some personality. :3
Okay! Sounds good!
Starting with the first two browser-tans listed:
I like the portrayal of Safari-tan dressed in safari gear and being adventurous. She'd also be athletic too- Safari is mainly designed for speed and portability in mind, since it's also used on the iPhone/iPod Touch. Maybe this is just from personal experience, but I'd also see her as being kinda flaky because Safari crashed a lot on me (on my Mac) lately and I switched over to Firefox because of that.
Not sure about IE... I've seen characters representing separate versions of IE- I can't find the pic at the moment, but I remember at least one with IE6, IE7 and IE8 together in it.
I'm not familiar with Opera or the other Mozilla programs though.
the soul-reply pics have ie, but just in case, she's a ME-aged girl in a white dress+boots+gloves with an "e" shaped headset on (similar to the "9"s on Sonata's head). she has a habit of panty-flashing, which i think was a reference to her security vulnerabilities.
as for safari, i think sticking with the design they gave (the little explorer girl) is good, since if we find any pics they'll match up. i also agree about the flaky part; i remember hearing around the school that almost no one used safari due to technical issues. that, and all the school macs came with firefox, which says alot. :
opera is regal, stable, classy, and virtually unknown. :3 she's much more obscure than her brethren IE, Safari and Firefox, but she still has a solid fanbase, leading me to believe that she'd be more mature than the others, simply because she's not super-popular. (she's not as obscure as seamonkey, though.) other than that, she's *fairly* user friendly, but not AS user friendly as, say, IE. this is due to things like speed dial, which to outside observers is some foreign instrument, but once one is familiar with opera, the convenience she provides is something one can't live without. -w-
in short:
classy
convenient
stable
user-friendly once you get to know her