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Title: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on May 07, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
Since enough encouragement was given, thought I'd start this!

There is a TV Tropes page on the OS-tan canon, but how about the OS-tan expanded universe? I don't know if it should actually become a page on there, but at the very least we could make a mock-up for a page in this thread!

I'll start off with one:

*Sliding Scale of Silliness vs. Seriousness: Both ends coexist. Early OS-tan comics fall mostly on the silly side, and more serious interpretations have been made in recent years, but most OS-tan characters have silly and serious parts to their backstories at the same time.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on May 07, 2011, 01:14:17 PM
*hugs Aurora*

Stewart-kun once did a list of his OS-tans and tropes that fit them over on dA - and I did the same. For instance:

Multics-sama provides examples of:
Perhaps? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YamatoNadeshiko)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LadyOfWar
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheHighQueen
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething

Bell Labs Unix:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Tsundere 
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoreThanMindControl
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlayingWithFire
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheChessmaster

ITS:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Bifauxnen
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CargoShip (she feels strongly about her bike)

WAITS-tan:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrilliantButLazy (in a way?)

GECOS-tan
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ManipulativeBastard

OpenVMS:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Asexuality (I recoil at the thought of her in a relationship >____>)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ProperlyParanoid
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BadassLongcoat
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CoolSword (oh yeah and http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnifeNut )
And either this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Kuudere) or this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Dandere)

Plan 9-tan:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ISeeDeadPeople (cause she raises them from the dead)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrangeGirl (at full-tilt)
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on May 07, 2011, 01:46:31 PM
*must not... click links*

Good job! :)

*Cursed With Awesome: Multics, who was born with a huge amount of wealth, prestige and power; all of which were a burden to her, came at the expense of her freedom, and has made her a target for assassination attempts in her early years.

Unix, who inherited Multics' power by stealing it from her, suffered the same burdens.

*Hilarious in Hindsight: XP-tan's portrayal as a glutton with Gag Boobs in the present day.

*The Napoleon: Many examples. Among them are Pilot OS, Macintosh System 2, PC-DOS, PET (formerly), VIC-20, Commodore Minuteman, and UNIX. Tiny OS cranks this trope up to eleven!

*Yangire: Barbie Linux (after suffering Break The Cutie), alternate interpretations of Windows 95 and NT.

Another example I can think of for Unix is that she may be a subversion of the Complete Monster, as some mistake her for such in-story. She's really a Jerk With A Heart of Gold.





Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on May 11, 2011, 07:52:57 PM
Not going to post links because how freakin' addictive it is, but here I go:

Apple II:
*Cool Big Sis
*Cute Bruiser: Skilled in martial arts.
*Onee-sama
*Promoted To Parent
*Tomboy and Girly Girl: The tomboy to Lisa's girly-girl.
*Wise Beyond Their Years

Apple III:
*Ax Crazy: Don't worry- She got better!
*Break The Cutie
*Black Sheep
*Drives Like A Maniac
*Les Yay: With SAGE-tan.
*Lethal Chef
*Pyro Maniac
*Shout Out: To "Lost"
*Walking Tech Bane

Macintosh System 1:
*Attention Defecit-- Ooh Shiny
*Cloud Cuckoo Lander
*Cute Bruiser
*Drop The Hammer
*Genki Girl
*Shout Out: Her wielding a large hammer is a shout out to the "1984" Macintosh commercial.
*Totally Radical



Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on May 11, 2011, 08:30:42 PM
Quote from: Aurora
Les Yay with SAGE-tan.

:3
:3
:3

Lol, thanks a lot for making these! I wanted to find some for Apple ///-tan, but wasn't sure where to start... besides Pyro Mania, of course.

She was Ax Crazy as some point? owo;;
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on May 11, 2011, 08:43:46 PM
The two things that drove Apple III-tan over the edge early in her life were Apple I's death, and social rejection from the public even after her efforts to improve herself.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on September 10, 2011, 11:45:18 PM
I think it's about time we have some OS-tan Wild Mass Guessing up in here. <O>____<O>

I'm working on a few personal OS-tan WMGs (including one that will never been seen due to spoilerifficness). One concerns SAGE, another, WWMCCS, and the last and least speculative involves Unix-sama.

Spoiler: ShowHide
Unix is the head of an assimilation plot!
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on September 10, 2011, 11:56:46 PM
Happy to see this thread brought back! :D

Bring on the WMGing and more trope-listing!
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on September 12, 2011, 12:47:08 PM
These theories are still works-in-progress, but...

-Unix is the head of an Assimilation Plot (well, duh)

-Wimmex is not a singular individual like most OS-tans, but a construct created from the minds/"code" of various OS-tans (reflecting the fact that WWMCCS incorporated various hardwares and softwares). This changed in 1971, when her primary psychological influence became GECOS-tan... and then the psychosis set in.

-When SAGE was connected to her radar stations, she had the ability to visually perceive the radio spectrum - in other words, she could see in radio as well as the visual spectrum. When she was cut off from her radar stations in 1983, she lost this ability. Thus, current-day SAGE is not entirely blind - she can still see as a human can - but her vision has still been severely compromised, since the spectrum she can perceive is now so limited. (Imagine if you lost the ability to see, say, 3/4th of human visual spectrum, and how that would impact your life.)
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on September 12, 2011, 02:48:42 PM
Hoo. That thing with SAGE is somewhat like Ruka's senses are in her linked state...Ruka's sensors are mostly seismic, though, so it's mostly a matter of range; and, her tactile senses are sharp as fuck naturally, so she mainly loses the ability to sense things 8000 miles away.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on September 14, 2011, 09:37:20 PM
Quote from: NejinOniwa on September 12, 2011, 02:48:42 PM
Hoo. That thing with SAGE is somewhat like Ruka's senses are in her linked state...Ruka's sensors are mostly seismic, though, so it's mostly a matter of range; and, her tactile senses are sharp as fuck naturally, so she mainly loses the ability to sense things 8000 miles away.

VERY SHARP AS FUCK. @____@;;;;

Yeah, dunno why this didn't occur to me sooner, but it makes too much sense...
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on September 15, 2011, 04:15:33 AM
I think I wrote most of that down in her wiki article...?

Oh well.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 02, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
Quote from: NejinOniwa on September 15, 2011, 04:15:33 AM
I think I wrote most of that down in her wiki article...?

Oh well.

Probably, it's just been so long since I've read it. -w-;

Oh, and I have another WMG. It just came to me yesterday, but I find it odd that I hadn't considered it before...

Does anyone else find it weird that we don't know WHO resurrected Multics or WHY? We assume that Plan 9-tan did it since she's the only known necromancer in the OS-tanverse, but there's a hole in that theory - when Plan 9 raises a dead OS-tan, they're essentially her zombie slave or whatever and tend to die back off after a short time (or whenever she's done with them). Yet Multics genuinely came back from the dead with her free will intact and shows no signs of dying again.

So I offer this WMG: SAGE did it. Think about it; SAGE has obviously found a way to cheat death, since she is alive in spite of her last installations being shut down 30 years ago. That's the who. As for the why, it'd probably be a twofold reason: for starters, she seems to have had a thing for (and maybe even had a thing going with) Multics in the past, and in her state of loneliness and mental decay thought it'd be nice to have her back. Secondly, SAGE knew Multics nearly killed Unix - making her the only person on earth to defeat her (even if it quickly backfired) - and raised her from the dead in hopes of killing off Unix for real this time.

"But there's a hole in your theory," you might say, "Why was SAGE surprised to find out Multics was alive? And why is Multics in the Binteji Renmei, and not with SAGE?" As for the first question - SAGE is freakin' nuts, and prone to lapses in memory, that's why. As for the second - after SAGE realized that resurrected!Multics lacked any powers, she knew she wouldn't be of any use in defeating the very powerful Unix. Since she loves Multics and wants to keep her safe, she sent her to the only safe place for an OS-tan of her age, the Binteji Renmei. 
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 02, 2011, 03:42:13 PM
WMG-COUNTERING TIME though it might bring spoilers...
Spoiler: ShowHide
OMEGA DID IT


Then again they shouldn't have much reason to mess with MULTICS, apart from...actually WHY DOES THIS START TO MAKE SO MUCH SENSE TO ME FUCK
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on October 02, 2011, 03:46:00 PM
Sounds good, and it if so, it's nice that SAGE didn't toss out Multics, after Multics never lived up to her usefulness (as perceived by one of SAGE's original intentions) as Unix's assassin.

Wasn't CTSS-tan also brought back from the dead since CTSS became open-sourced? I asked that question before, but we never got to a consensus about that, but I bet that if she was brought back, it was SAGE that did that!
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 02, 2011, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on October 02, 2011, 03:46:00 PM
Sounds good, and it if so, it's nice that SAGE didn't toss out Multics, after Multics never lived up to her usefulness (as perceived by one of SAGE's original intentions) as Unix's assassin.

Wasn't CTSS-tan also brought back from the dead since CTSS became open-sourced? I asked that question before, but we never got to a consensus about that, but I bet that if she was brought back, it was SAGE that did that!

If you believe that theory, you have to assume that Multics is one of a few people in the entire world that SAGE has strong feelings of affection for... so her sending Multics to the BR just so she'd be safe and have a nice life makes sense. 

CTSS-tan isn't, er, "canonically" alive, but she could be (since CTSS has been both open-sourced and can be used in emulators). If you believe CTSS is alive, it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to think SAGE did that - she is her sister after all, and it seems like SAGE always felt guilty about not spending time with her before she died back in '73.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on October 02, 2011, 03:54:58 PM
Should I add that in CTSS's article as an alternate interpretation?
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 04, 2011, 11:22:38 PM
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on October 02, 2011, 03:54:58 PM
Should I add that in CTSS's article as an alternate interpretation?

Go for it. 8)
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 15, 2011, 02:25:49 PM
Have I mentioned lately that I'm undertaking a project to trope ALL my written (and some drawn) works? I'm mostly focusing on OS-tans stuff for the time being, since the OS-tan universe of my stories is probably more fleshed out than my OC universe. :/

The question is, where am I going to post this list? It's already up to, like, five pages. ^^;
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: stewartsage on October 16, 2011, 08:40:42 PM
Why not post it in the thread made for that very purpose?
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 16, 2011, 08:48:18 PM
Quote from: stewartsage on October 16, 2011, 08:40:42 PM
Why not post it in the thread made for that very purpose?

But dude! It's like six pages long!

I suppose I could break it up into sections....
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 17, 2011, 01:26:23 AM
More pages = Better. POAST.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 17, 2011, 06:57:51 PM
Most of these will focus on my written works, but some involve drawings as well. Not all of the characters/concepts here are mine, but all have been included in writings or drawings that I've done.

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Examples of tropes appearing in Bella's works, A - C:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AdvancedAncientAcropolis
Leopard is under the impression that Eastern Massachusetts is home to several of these. Notably the old MIT computer culture – where she finds advanced tech, large population and equality with humans, which makes it all the more troubling that she's never heard of them before and that they didn't survive into the modern day.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArtEvolution
Compare the beginnings and ends of the DEC Comic and Linux's Comic, as well as her earlier and later written works

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArtificialHuman
Computer-tans. They are biological beings who were created by humans to perform what amounts to magic (or more accurately, manipulating something called Code, which is sort of like materialized information that's only palpable to computers. We think.) There's the odd mechanical OS/computer-tan out there, but most are flesh and blood creatures.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Asexuality
OpenVMS' asexuality has been confirmed in two separate character interviews.
-ITS, CTSS, DTSS and Harvard Mark I among others are presented as such

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AstralCheckerboardDecor
Whirlwind's attire in Journey of One Mile.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BadassLongcoat
OpenVMS wears one.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Bifauxnen
Leopard can't figure out ITS-tan's gender until she speaks.
-Somewhat averted in Linux's Comic, where ITS is depicted with longer hair and more feminine features.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBeautifulMan
Selectric and Fastrand, full stop.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBeautifulWoman
MCP, RSTS

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BladeOnAStick
Linux-tan carries a spear in the comic (later, a halberd)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BringHimToMe
Unix orders BSD and Solaris to capture and deliver Linux to her. Leads to moments of Foe Yay.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButchLesbian
Slackware-tan is implied to be one.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButYourWingsAreBeautiful
Linux tells Unix something to this effect in the last part of Unix-tan Fanfic

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CampGay
CANDE-kun. Not so much in personality but in style of dress.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CargoShip
ITS and her motorcycle

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCasanova
At least that's how Emacs-kun is perceived by the fandom. And himself, in one OS-tan Interview.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CasanovaWannabe
RED-kun

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CastFullOfGay
More accurately, Cast full of pansexual, asexual, bi, lesbian, gay and fuck-the-police-I-do-what-I-want-sexual, with a few entirely hetero characters.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheChosenOne
Unix is convinced that Linux-tan is the only person who can save Unixkind.
-Leopard is certified as a pureblood Unix and later hired by Unix-sama to perform inter-temporal reconnaissance .

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CreationMyth
Something to do with a race of giant mainframes possessing godly powers. So intimidated were their human creators, that they killed most of them off. It's only partially true – they weren't giants and they weren't killed off.
-The IBM-tans seem to view GMOS-tan as their god and creator.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuddleBug
PDP-1 scares Leopard on the train with her lack of regard for personal space.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CultureChopSuey
The entire OS-tanverse. It's set in a parallel "real world" with all the nations, governments, cultural conventions and history we know and love, but this time, there are anthropomorphic computers. (And typewriters, occasionally.) These guys have their own societies, geographically a part of – yet socially separated from – the nations they reside in, yet they often interact with the "real world" and reflect the regional culture. Their native cultures tend to be extremely unique and anachronistic, the technology advanced, and the fashion dated, and oh yeah, despite the characters and settings being overwhelmingly Western, Japanese honorifics are often used.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CurtainsMatchTheWindow
Leopard has natural blue hair, and natural blue eyes.
-Linux has purple eyes and purple hair.
-Selectric has grey hair and eyes, though the his eye color changes often enough to make his inclusion here debatable.

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Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 18, 2011, 02:21:01 AM
SOME were killed off. Our dear COLOSSUS for example...and she WAS a giant with extreme powers.

*GASP*
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 18, 2011, 02:30:01 PM
Well yes, Colossus... she's even mentioned at the beginning of Leopard's Story as being evidence that a race of giants may have existed. It was really only her (as far as we know...)

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Examples of tropes appearing in Bella's works, D - M:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadLittleSister
Played straight with SpringOS and Solaris-tan in Linux's Comic

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EveryScarHasAStory
Inverted(?) in Far From Home, when VMS-tan doesn't want to explain the origin of one of her (many) dueling scars to Whistler.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FantasticRacism
The DECs toward Unices in DEC Comic, Unices toward Unix-likes in Linux's Comic, the IBMs toward everyone else in Leopard's Story.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FieryRedhead
Solaris-tan
-Apple ///, albeit of the auburn variety

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FoeYay
-The meeting of Unix and Linux toward the end of Linux's Comic has undertones of this.
-Unix jumping, pinning and sorta-straddling VMS in DEC Comic.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HandicappedBadass
Unix-tan is all but wheelchair-bound, but she's essentially as capable as she was when she still had full use of her legs. (And by capable I mean badass.)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HellishPupils
Unix has reflective, neon-blue Bell System logos implanted over her pupils.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HistoricalDomainCharacter
Famous people from the computer industry show up from time to time. Ken Olsen, Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie and Bill Joy have shown up and Linus Torvalds has been mentioned (not by name) as Linux's dad.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HotChickWithASword
OpenVMS-tan.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HotSkittyOnWailordAction
How SAGE's and Fastrand's relationship is made out as being... one is around 5'4'' and lightly built, the other is at least 6'6'' and a couple hundred pounds heavier.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HoYay
Unix and Linux in Unix-tan Fanfic and a certain Character Interview. Nothing was explicitly stated.... but you know something's going on...
-Averted with SAGE and Apple /// in Thanks for the Memories, which skips all subtext and moves fairly quickly into Yuri Country.
-Averted with Plan 9-tan and Slackware. There's absolutely no subtext there.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ImaginedInnuendo
CP/CMS's reaction to Selectric telling her about his evening with Leopard.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ImpossiblyTackyClothes
RSTS and RT-11 in Far From Home. And possibly young VMS-tan too, depending on how reliable her retelling of the story was.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IntergenerationalFriendship
Leopard and Selectric. While they were born more than 40 years apart, Leopard meets Selectric in the past so their ages really aren't that dissimilar. They still hail from different generations in time.
-The above comments would apply to any of Leopard's friendships with people from the past.
-Unix is over twenty years older than Linux. However, Linux appears physically older than Unix, so most casual observers would think it went the OTHER way.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InterspeciesFriendship
Happens throughout her OS-tan universe, where OSes, hardwares, softwares and other technological machinery as well as humans interact with each other.
-Leopard and Selectric-kun in Leopard's Story

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InterspeciesRomance
What interspecies friendships sometimes lead to...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Kuudere
OpenVMS, Type 2 to be exact. She comes off as emotionless and aloof, but her personality isn't nearly as intimidating as her appearance once one gets to know her.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LikeBrotherAndSister
Multics suggests her relationship with H-6180-kun is like this in one Character Interview

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLinus
PDP-1-tan. In Leopard's Story she's depicted as traveling by herself and being competent enough to care for Whirlwind, yet she's remarkably child-like and innocent in her behavior and world view.
-How Windows 2.0-tan was depicted in Linux's Comic.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LipstickLesbian
Rare is the stereotypically androgynous lesbian (or woman-who-likes-women in the case of all those bi, pan, etc. characters).

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LittleBitBeastly
Happens throughout the OS-tanverse. Leopard-tan has leopard ears and a tail, Unix-tan has owl ears (and wings, though they're usually hidden), Multics has wings, Minix has raccoon features and Plan 9-tan has lop rabbit ears.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LonelyAtTheTop
VMS-tan mentions having made enemies on her way to the top of the DEC hierarchy.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ManipulativeBastard
GECOS-tan. Knowing that she couldn't directly hurt her competitor/stepsister Multics, she was able to machinate Unix-tan – Multics' daughter – into attacking Multics on her behalf. Despite being intellectually and magically inferior to Multics, she was able to manipulate her way into a position of higher standing, and eventually outlive her.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MayDecemberRomance
SAGE and Apple /// have about 30 years of difference in age.
-Unix and Linux

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MentalTimeTravel
Leopard transports young Linux-tan's mind from 1994 to her circa-2004 body, causing her to experience http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OvernightAgeUp

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MildlyMilitary
The DEC Military, as explained by VMS. They have a loose hierarchical structure, lax regulations and were based in a decaying fabric mill. 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MindRape
Solaris accidentally unleashes this on Linux and herself (BSD narrowly avoids it).

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MismatchedEyes
SAGE-tan has sectoral heterochromia that leave her eyes a mix of yellow and blue. This horrifies Leopard.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MotherNatureFatherScience
Inverted in Leopard's Story – Leopard is a physicist (at least physics student) and Selectric is a clerical worker. Later it's UN-inverted when Selectric passes Leopard off as his secretary
-Averted with Whirlwind, who's an engineer
-Also with Harvard Mark I, who's a mathematician
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 18, 2011, 02:50:03 PM
QuoteLeopard transports young Linux-tan's mind from 1994 to her circa-2004 body, causing her to experience http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OvernightAgeUp
WAIT WHEN WHY HAVE I NOT READ THIS.

And yeah, the whole Linus = Linux' dad thing is kinda obvious canon, IMO. In MR, he IS mentioned by name - and a few others are namedropped as well, including RMS...
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: stewartsage on October 18, 2011, 03:11:44 PM
That's a good question, why haven't you read that Nej?  It's on Bells' DA profile.  Still unfinished I think.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 18, 2011, 03:18:39 PM
I CAN'T FIND IT ;_;
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 18, 2011, 03:21:11 PM
Quote from: NejinOniwa on October 18, 2011, 02:50:03 PM
QuoteLeopard transports young Linux-tan's mind from 1994 to her circa-2004 body, causing her to experience http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OvernightAgeUp
WAIT WHEN WHY HAVE I NOT READ THIS.

http://bellacielo.deviantart.com/gallery/8017662

It's Linux's Comic chapter 3.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 18, 2011, 03:28:22 PM
;w;
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 18, 2011, 04:25:20 PM
OH FUCK ME WITH LUNA'S HORN I JUST HAD THE BIGGEST PLOTGASM EVER
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 19, 2011, 03:40:13 PM
Wait, what?

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Examples of tropes appearing in Bella's works, N - W:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoodlePeople
Her earlier art styles incorporated thin bodies and long, looooong limbs.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoCommunitiesWereHarmed
Often averted - Bell Labs, MIT, IBM Headquarters, the author seems to enjoy including settings that you could hypothetically visit in real life.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoPeriodsPeriod : Averted. In Thanks for the Memories it's stated that OS-tans have all the reproductive functionality of humans. ALL OF IT.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyLook
This can be said to effect ALL OS-tans (and hardware-tans, to an extent) since they age far slower than humans (and occasionally not at all)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrWasItADream
Linux's assumes her mental time travel was a dream until she finds something left behind by Leopard.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PerpetualMolt
Averted. Multics is shown as loosing only a few feathers at a time (except for when Unix attacked her and badly injured her wing) and having specific times at which her wings molt in Linux's Comic. This is not pleasant for her.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PimpedOutDress
Multics and CP/CMS

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PinkBishoujoGhetto
Most OS-tans are female, though softwares and hardwares have a more equal gender distribution
-Played straight in most of her stories. In fact, the only that features a male character in a major role is Leopard's Story ...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlatonicLifePartners
RSTS compares VMS' and RED-kun's relationship to that of an "old married couple"

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PocketDimension
Closed spaces, extra-dimensional places that OS-tans and software-tans inhabit within the real-world. Somewhat analogous to cyberspace in that hardwares and humans need the help of code-using beings (read: OS or software-tans) to access it.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PsychoLesbian
Much like Kuroko Shirai, Slackware is a "heroic" or "good" example of this trope. She's depicted as having a borderline-creepy obsession with Unix-sama, though the author insists her love is chaste and that she's far too reverent of Unix to want, ehem, physical relations with her.
-Slackware also has a fetish for pureblooded Unices, one that certainly isn't pure-of-heart. She still shows them a lot of admiration and affection, however.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PyroManiac
SAGE makes mention of Apple ///'s past struggle with pyromania.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TrulySingleParent
Most computer-tans propagate asexually
-Averted with NT, who's the "daughter" of both VMS (primarily) and OS/2 (to a lesser extent).

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReallySevenHundredYearsOld
Unix is already 25 years old chronologically in the present-day (1994) in Linux's Comic, yet she looks the same as she did in 1972 ... like a teenager. In Leopard's Story she's closer to 38 ... yet she still looks she same as she did in 1972
-In Linux's Comic, circa-1960s ITS looks remarkably like 1990s ITS...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapeAsComedy
Multics and DTSS on SAGE in a certain comic...
-Multics-on-SAGE (or SAGE-on-Multics) sexual violence is invariably played this way.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedOniBlueOni
BSD-tan is the blue oni to Solaris' red oni.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RomanticTwoGirlFriendship
Multics and CP/CMS seem to be particularly close, in a nonsexual way.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SchizoTech
Found all across the OS-tanverse, where (MUCH) older tech usually coincides with (relatively not so) older times periods, or places with less technological advancement. More often, the decision to use older technology or styles of dress is a purely aesthetic choice, having nothing to do with the state of advancement in the outside world.  It's impossible to list all the examples ...
-In DEC Comic (set in the 1970s), the DEC officers all wear old-timey uniforms, wield swords, and vintage cars are present.
-Linux-tan Comic is set in the 1990s, but the modes of transport used and cities depicted seem much older. Not to mention Linux's choice in weaponry – a spear.
-In Leopard's Story they're still using steam-trains in 1970s New York. Likewise, in Unix-tan Fanfic, it's stated that narrow-gauge rail is still used today (2008) although only in places too rural to have upgraded to standard-gauge.
-Harvard Mark I wears Byzantine-style fashion in the 1940s. She comments that this is simply an aesthetic choice on the parts of her creators.
-Multics and CP/CMS dress and fashion their homes in Rococo style.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SerialKillerKiller
VMS-tan relishes killing "security threats", but is absolutely harmless toward anyone who's not a criminal.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShoutOut
-In Linux's Comic, Solaris mentions how a "blind madwoman" attacked Unix. This references an incident in Stewartsage's SAGE-tan series. Of course, the entire concept of a universe that's exactly like our own, only with anthropomorphic computers might be a shout-out to his series....
-The concepts of closed space and code were originally included as a shout-out to NejinOniwa's Mertvaya Ruka series
-Thanks for the Memories features multiple shout-outs to Lost
-Selectric-kun has mentioned seeing "other worlds", referencing the use of Selectric typewriters as interdimensional communication devices in Fringe.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShyBlueHairedGirl
Leopard in Leopard's Story. This is stated as being her natural hair color, even though she often changes it to protect her identity...
-OpenVMS in Far From Home and DEC Comic, though in her case it's less "shy" and more "aloof and disinterested".

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SinsOfOurFathers
Unix is convinced that her family is cursed because of her misdeeds – specifically, her defeating Multics in her youth.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SociallyAwkwardHero
Leopard-tan has shades of this. She'll hurl herself into a strange and dangerous location in time... and have no idea how to deal with the people there.
-Linux-tan too ... it's even been suggested that she's something of an inadvertent jerkass
-VMS-tan, perhaps due to her antisocial nature

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StableTimeLoop
2008!Leopard finds a time machine. She begins time traveling. She eventually evolves into Snow Leopard and settles down in 2108 (or stops time traveling and lives for 100 years - it's never made clear). Snow decides at some point she's going to try to change the past with her previous self's help, and goes back to 2008 – where she loses her time machine and Leopard finds it.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StatuesqueStunner
DOS- and OS/360

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StraightGay
IBM 7090-kun

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TallDarkAndBishoujo
Multics is depicted as such, as are CP/CMS, OS/360 and DOS/360 to a lesser extent.
-Unix would fit this trope to a T (right down to the moe girlfriend) if you replaced "tall" with "short".

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UndercoverAsLovers
Leopard's actually undercover as Selectric's secretary, but he seems rather fond of doing things that make her seem like more than just his assistant. CP/CMS is convinced they have something going on.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhereTheHellIsSpringfield
When the author's not being super-specific about geographical locations, she just dodges the question altogether.
-All we know is that the Binteji Renmei is somewhere very rural, and within a day's train-trip of Unix/Linux Headquarters.
-All we know about Unix/Linux HQ is that it's somewhere in the United States, and near a city.
-Where the hell was that city in Far From Home? It shows characteristics of either Boston or New York (it's a large city near the ocean, implied to be in the Northeast of the United States) without obviously being one or the other.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhiteHairedPrettyGirl
What Plan 9 and Snow Leopard might come off as. Of course, in both cases it's due to stress, which puts them more in the territory of http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DiseaseBleach

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WingedHumanoid
Multics, Unix and Yggdrasil Linux

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WingsDoNothing
Partially averted; Multics' and Unix's wings are articulated like a bird's and able to be controlled like any other limb.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Nichi on October 19, 2011, 06:24:00 PM
I'm eventually going to have to do something like this for my story series. I know of a few off the top of my head, but I intend on figuring out a few more before I post the list
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 20, 2011, 09:00:08 PM
Cool cool. It's always fun to trope stories. ^^

I might add more that i missed as I think of them (and as my story progresses).
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 24, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
WMG: All the early Timesharing Systems possessed magical powers.

We already know that Multics-sama was heavily magical, Berkeley Timesharing System (BTSS)-tan was precognitive and could predict what people would say before they spoke, Tenex inherited a mild form of precognition from BTSS, DTSS is mute but seems to be able to project her thoughts onto others allowing them to speak for her, ITS is a crack shot so there's a chance her marksmanship skills are tied back to some superhuman ability, which leaves CTSS, whose potential powers I'm not sure of. (But she mentored Multics and may've been her mother, so they're bound to be fantastic, whatever they are.)
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 24, 2011, 01:48:49 PM
Isn't it more a case of "sorcery" in its earliest stages, before it was systematized into various languages of code?
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 25, 2011, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: NejinOniwa on October 24, 2011, 01:48:49 PM
Isn't it more a case of "sorcery" in its earliest stages, before it was systematized into various languages of code?

Sorcery = magic. 'w'

I had something I wanted to post here but then I figured it was too spoilerish. ;_;
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 25, 2011, 07:38:56 PM
And magic = sorcery, no? ^^
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 26, 2011, 02:22:09 AM
IF magic = sorcery, and friendship = magic, THEN sorcery = friendship.

WMG: SAM Linux is PDP 1 in disguise.
SAM Linux: Obscure, tiny German Linux distro-tan. A small girl whose lack of stature is made up for with a bold personality.
PDP-1: Obsolete, tiny American hardware-tan. A small girl whose lack of stature is made up for with a bold personality.
The theory: Surely PDP-1 needs a disguise to go "undercover" among modern OS-tans... what better guise to pick than that of a Linux-tan? There are so many of them, an imposter could easily pass themselves off as one without raising any eyebrows, even from Linux-tans themselves! To further obscure her true identity from American OS-tans, PDP-1 poses as a German distro.

The evidence:
-They look alike
-They act alike
-They have the same freakin' hairdo
-Both have been known to wield hammers
-You've never seen SAM and PDP-1 in a room together

Some images for your consideration:
SAM:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/pclos2~0.png)

PDP-1:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/DECfamily_alpha.png)

I mean, for godssake, they're practically wearing the same expression! And PCLOS-tan and VMS-tan are pretty much giving them the EXACT SAME LOOK!

"But Bella", you shout with skepticism, "PDP-1 has blue eyes and wears glasses. SAM doesn't wear glasses and her eyes are green. How do you explain that?"

But you see, this is the piece of evidence that cinches it! PDP-1 would never wear her glasses while going undercover. Being vision-impaired, however, she would need to use something to correct her eyesight - obviously, she would use contact lenses. And what better way to obscure her identity than use lenses with a different eye color than her own?
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 26, 2011, 08:23:34 AM
SO MUCH WMG'ING. =w=
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Nichi on October 26, 2011, 08:51:27 AM
Wait...VMS-tan without her mask? I almost didn't recognize her
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 26, 2011, 08:52:45 AM
Mask is combat gear, if I remember things right...bothersome to wear all the time. I mean - how's she supposed to eat with it on?
WHICH BRINGS ME TO
Just how necessary is it for -tans to actually consume nutrients, considering they live off their code pool? Does it provide extra benefits? Can they get fat?

Derp. We have some material off XP-tan to draw this off, but afaik she's just a glutton who loves food...hardly one to set standards.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on October 26, 2011, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: NejinOniwa on October 26, 2011, 08:52:45 AM
Mask is combat gear, if I remember things right...bothersome to wear all the time. I mean - how's she supposed to eat with it on?
WHICH BRINGS ME TO
Just how necessary is it for -tans to actually consume nutrients, considering they live off their code pool? Does it provide extra benefits? Can they get fat?

The mask is to keep her identity secret, because she bears such an uncanny resemblance to NT-tan it would be super-obvious they were related.

You make the bold assumption that everyone follows your theory about OS-tans living off a "code pool", Nej. I'm not sure what your story universe is like, but in mine OS-tans (and hardwares) are biologically identical to humans (only with "code" instead of DNA to store their biological information) - meaning they need to eat and drink to survive.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Nichi on October 26, 2011, 11:56:00 AM
I'm with Bella on the theory of OS-tans being human-like. In my stories, the only real difference is that they come from a different universe

But, go with whatever you feel works for your stories
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 26, 2011, 01:39:58 PM
My immediate assumption would be that the OS-tans need to supply themselves with "human" nutrients as long as they are in Open Space - the very nature of Closed Space, however, means they don't have to eat normal food inside (quite understandable too seeing as there are -tans who live most of their lives within CS, and it's not exactly easy to grow any normal food in CS afaik). Instead, they draw energy off their code pool and the code flows of the host of the Closed Space (sort of a server-type entity that holds, contains and keeps the CS alive). In Open Space, there is no such host entity, so they have to supply themselves with human energy, while their Code Pool effectively powers their minds - giving them sentience.

TL;DR - Code Pool energy powers the OS-tan mind, in Open Space they need human nutrients, in Closed Space they draw nutrition and energy off the fabric of the CS itself.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on November 05, 2011, 08:19:25 PM
I LOLed at WMG that SAM and PDP-1 are the same character! :D

I really should draw those two together, for the heck of it. And maybe also add in System 1-tan because she's also a proud hammer-wielder in their size range. :P

The pic of PDP-1-tan used in that example is an old pic of mine, drawn last year, and it hasn't aged well. :(
Speaking of which, I decided to start over on that DEC-tan family portraiture because trying to revamp it in Inkscape was too inefficient. I just started sketching the new version and I already like how it's turning out.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on January 16, 2012, 06:53:29 PM
I may begin collecting MORE tropes for my stories as I write more. @_@


WMG: MTS-tan is Inferno-chan's spirit animal.
Self explanatory.


WMG: DTSS-sama and GE600-kun - SECRETLY MARRIED.
I have no idea why... just woke up one morning with that thought rattling around in my brain. I might run with it.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Nichi on January 16, 2012, 06:57:59 PM
I've slowly worked on a list of tropes applying to the Director Who saga; which I intend on posting eventually

It's kind of fun to go through TV Tropes, see an article, and think "Hey; this applies to my story :3"
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on January 16, 2012, 07:35:51 PM
Indeed it is. ^^

Also, I really need to work on a fuller characterization for GE600-kun... maybe I'll take the discussion over to /More IBM-tans (since he's kind of an honorary IBM-tan?) *shrugs*
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: stewartsage on January 16, 2012, 08:08:31 PM
He's a GE-tan, he's the enemy of all right thinking IBM-tans.  Or at least annoying to them.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on January 16, 2012, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: stewartsage on January 16, 2012, 08:08:31 PM
He's a GE-tan, he's the enemy of all right thinking IBM-tans.  Or at least annoying to them.

I thought you said the IBM-tans didn't practice Fantastic Racism? >>;; At any rate, I know he'd get along well with IBM 7090-kun... maybe too well (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HoYay)...

Any other thoughts for his characterization? I have some ideas of what he'll be like physically, but his personality and mentality I'm kind of lost on.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: stewartsage on January 16, 2012, 08:21:08 PM
They don't, but stealing business from them is going to tick off most IBM-tans.  They'd rather have the rental contracts.  That being said, yes, I imagine the 7090/GE-600 relationship would be subject to much speculation and FoeYay.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on January 16, 2012, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: stewartsage on January 16, 2012, 08:21:08 PM
They don't, but stealing business from them is going to tick off most IBM-tans.  They'd rather have the rental contracts.  That being said, yes, I imagine the 7090/GE-600 relationship would be subject to much speculation and FoeYay.

Oh... I see.

OH GOD IS THIS GOING TO END IN A DTSS-SAMA x GE600-KUN x IBM 7090-KUN LOVE TRIANGLE?!
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: stewartsage on January 16, 2012, 08:31:44 PM
You can't connect every vaguely related -tan into a love polygon.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on January 16, 2012, 08:36:10 PM
Quote from: stewartsage on January 16, 2012, 08:31:44 PM
You can't connect every vaguely related -tan into a love polygon.

Says the person who started the whole "throwing two (or three) random -tans into a ship and see what happens" trend. -___-

That said, if DTSS x GE600 = married couple (my subconscious demands it) and GE600 x IBM 7090 = weird ho-yaying subtexty stuff, then DTSS x GE600 x 7090 = SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET LEAD PUMPED INTO THEM BY DTSS-TAN.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: stewartsage on January 16, 2012, 08:53:33 PM
I did no such thing, except maybe a few times for my own amusement.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on January 16, 2012, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: stewartsage on January 16, 2012, 08:53:33 PM
I did no such thing, except maybe a few times for my own amusement.

Really then? 'w'
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on January 26, 2012, 02:53:31 PM
Random thoughts on character development: I used to think ITS-tan was http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Bifauxnen, but now I think she might lean toward http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmbiguousGender.

While she's biologically female (and uses female pronouns out of sheer simplicity) I'm quite certain that she'd think of herself as agendered, in other words, psychologically neither male nor female. While her closer friends probably realize this, I imagine "outsiders" would think of her as being a tomboyish/androgynous girl and leave that at that. (Not that this would greatly bother ITS-tan, she IS extremely apathetic about what others think of her.)

And while we're on this subject, I'm thinking of giving CP/CMS a more Bifauxnen-ish twist when I draw her next - mainly because I think that would fit her personality well, not to mention the fact that the rest of the IBM System/360 OS-tans are quite feminine (in one way or another) and it might be wise to make her more androgynous for the sake of variety.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on March 07, 2012, 07:52:14 PM
WMG: Animal features aren't a part of an OS-tan's biological nature, but her magical one
Multics' wings are rooted in her heavily magical nature, and Unix gained her wings (and possibly owl ears, though that's subject to some debate) when she absorbed part of Multics' powers ... wouldn't it stand to reason that animal features in other OS-tans would be magically-based too?

WMG: The Binteji Renmei is located somewhere in the American Northeast
We've never worked out where the BR is located, but from the various stories (and proposed storylines) involving it, it seems to be somewhere in the States, and someplace that's hilly, rural, able to support apple orchards and has a fairly cool climate. It's also indicated as being a half-day's train ride from Unix's home, which is heavily hinted at being someplace in the Mid-Atlantic (probably New York or New Jersey).
-This could explain the high number of East Coast natives in the BR (e.g., many of the DECs and Commodores settled there, as well as Multics, DTSS, EXEC and Adam-tan.)
-Sub-theory: It's in Rhode Island, because of the abnormally high concentration of computer museums (http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/) and retrocomputer societies (http://www.rcsri.org/) (and, by association, old computers) in that state.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on March 10, 2012, 03:55:17 PM
I don't know, sometime ago C-Chan said that the Binteeji Renmei was founded on one of Apple II-tan's apple orchards. Then again, I still don't know how to feel about OS-tan stories taking place in the real world, though personally I follow a middle-ground theory of OS-tans being able to live in both the real world and cyberspace. *shrugs* Anyways, I haven't given much thought to where the BR would be located.

Hmm... All OS-tans have innate magical abilities, right? And does your conjecture apply to characters who were created/born with animal features, like the OSX-tans, Plan 9-tan, etc.? If so, do you think all these animal-featured characters would use different, specialized forms of magic related to their features? Now I can't help but think of them being like the animal youkai from Touhou with powers and attacks related to their features! I would see these characters as being specialized by design, being born with a specific style of magic.

On the other hand, those OS-tan characters who don't have animal features tend to have a more generalized and not as powerful style of magic by default, but may specialize if they dedicate themselves to it- Using the Touhou comparison again, Marisa and Alice would be good examples, being (or have been, in Alice's case) human magicians who became as powerful as they did through vast amounts of training and research; Alice specializes in doll magic, Marisa specializes in huge freakin' lasers! :P

So as I see it, animal-featured and non animal-featured OS-tans would all have magic capabilities, but there'd be at least two different styles of magic and different schools of thought about how it should work.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on March 10, 2012, 08:08:15 PM
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on March 10, 2012, 03:55:17 PM
I don't know, sometime ago C-Chan said that the Binteeji Renmei was founded on one of Apple II-tan's apple orchards. Then again, I still don't know how to feel about OS-tan stories taking place in the real world, though personally I follow a middle-ground theory of OS-tans being able to live in both the real world and cyberspace. *shrugs* Anyways, I haven't given much thought to where the BR would be located.

But if you believe in the alternate real-world interpretation of the OS-tan universe, there's nothing to indicate where Apple II-tan's orchard is either. So I guess this is one of those things that's largely up to personal storyline decisions and what viewpoint you take on the OS-tanverse (ie, real-world vs. some kind of cyberspace).

Quote from: Aurora Borealis on March 10, 2012, 03:55:17 PMHmm... All OS-tans have innate magical abilities, right?

More or less. Even if an OS-tan's magical ability doesn't manifest as a kind of sorcery - IOW, something supernatural like mind-reading powers, telekinesis, pyrokenesis, etc - I imagine it's still there, working in some more subtle form. For instance, I imagine ITS-tan magical powers, but that they manifest as sharpened reflexes and a being a good shot.

Quote from: Aurora Borealis on March 10, 2012, 03:55:17 PMAnd does your conjecture apply to characters who were created/born with animal features, like the OSX-tans, Plan 9-tan, etc.? If so, do you think all these animal-featured characters would use different, specialized forms of magic related to their features? Now I can't help but think of them being like the animal youkai from Touhou with powers and attacks related to their features! I would see these characters as being specialized by design, being born with a specific style of magic.

Well, my theory applies to any animal-featured OS-tan, including ones that were born with their animal features (as opposed to gaining them later in life, as the case is with Unix). Instead of those features being biological (caused by manipulated/animals genes) I'm speculating that they're magical - that these OS-tans have a type of magic that manifests itself physically as animal features.

I think that's a pretty interesting comparison/idea! The argument can already be made that some OS-tans have powers that are related to their animal features - using some OSX-tans as an example, Leopard has the ability to "camouflage" herself, Snow Leopard is hinted at having cold-resistance and powers over snow, and Lion-tan has been proposed as having excellent leadership/social skills. 

Quote from: Aurora Borealis on March 10, 2012, 03:55:17 PMOn the other hand, those OS-tancharacters who don't have animal features tend to have a more generalized and not as powerful style of magic by default, but may specialize if they dedicate themselves to it- Using the Touhou comparison again, Marisa and Alice would be good examples, being (or have been, in Alice's case) human magicians who became as powerful as they did through vast amounts of training and research; Alice specializes in doll magic, Marisa specializes in huge freakin' lasers! :P

So as I see it, animal-featured and non animal-featured OS-tans would all have magic capabilities, but there'd be at least two different styles of magic and different schools of thought about how it should work.

That's also a really interesting thought/comparison. Especially when you consider that some of the animal-featured OS-tans were born with their powers or gained them magically (for instance, Multics, Unix and Plan 9) while many of the the non-animal-featured OS-tans had to learn their powers - for instance,  Linux and OpenVMS.

Though you could also argue that perhaps animal-featured OS-tans just have a kind of magic that's easier to invoke, or present on a more subconscious (I daresay, animalistic level), while non-featured OS-tans use some kind of conscious spellcasting process.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on March 10, 2012, 09:39:52 PM
Excellent! That's what I was thinking too! :D

So it's like this -- both classes both have a capacity for magic and magical abilities, but:
animal-featured: specific abilities usually innate or granted, more specialized by default, easier to invoke, can be used subconsciously (I like the reasoning for that! :P )
non animal featured: specific abilities generally acquired through training and focusing their magic capacity, usually harder to invoke and is done consciously (but is almost automatic in the extremely skilled).

I'd like to collaborate on a list of characters and their magical abilities, but before I do that, I'd like to ask about characters who may have gained their abilities through cybernetics, and how, or if they fit into this. I don't know if there are others, but I know for sure there's Mac System 6-tan, A/UX-tan, Dex OS-tan, C-One-tan, and I could have sworn that there was an ancient mainframe-tan that also had cybernetics; if so, I can't remember her name. :( Since these characters got their cybernetics, (and presumably their abilities as a consequence) for different reasons, I may have to elaborate on a case-by-case basis.



Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on March 11, 2012, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: Aurora Borealis on March 10, 2012, 09:39:52 PM
Excellent! That's what I was thinking too! :D

So it's like this -- both classes both have a capacity for magic and magical abilities, but:
animal-featured: specific abilities usually innate or granted, more specialized by default, easier to invoke, can be used subconsciously (I like the reasoning for that! :P )
non animal featured: specific abilities generally acquired through training and focusing their magic capacity, usually harder to invoke and is done consciously (but is almost automatic in the extremely skilled).

Sounds about right to me.

Quote from: Aurora Borealis on March 10, 2012, 09:39:52 PMI'd like to collaborate on a list of characters and their magical abilities, but before I do that, I'd like to ask about characters who may have gained their abilities through cybernetics, and how, or if they fit into this. I don't know if there are others, but I know for sure there's Mac System 6-tan, A/UX-tan, Dex OS-tan, C-One-tan, and I could have sworn that there was an ancient mainframe-tan that also had cybernetics; if so, I can't remember her name. :( Since these characters got their cybernetics, (and presumably their abilities as a consequence) for different reasons, I may have to elaborate on a case-by-case basis.


I'm not sure which mainframe-tan you're speaking of (has she been designed already, or was it a concept?) and unfortunately I'm not all that familiar with the workings of cybernetic OS-tans (since most if not all of them were yours' and C-Chan's designs)

I'm assuming characters who gained their magical abilities through cybernetics are a different class of magic-wielders too, though you could also argue they fall into the same class as the other non-featured magic-wielders - only instead of gaining powers through training, etc. they gained their powers though cybernetic enhancement.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on March 13, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
Thanks for that explanation, that cleared things up for me since I don't know much about cybernetic OS-tans. I had no idea that A/UX-tan needed cybernetics because she isn't powerful enough as a Unix-tan, that's kind of sad. : / You have me curious now - I vaguely recall the story of System 6-tan needing cybernetics to save her life, but I forget parts of it. Is that written down in her wiki article?

And yes, they DO sound like something of a middle ground between the two other classes of magic-wielders.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on March 15, 2012, 10:31:26 PM
I have no idea who started the rumor about Whirlwind-tan being cybernetically enhanced, but I'm pretty sure that tale is apocryphal.... I dunno, I'll have to ask Stew.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Aurora Borealis on March 15, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
I thought she was, referencing the TX-0 project.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on March 15, 2012, 10:54:57 PM
According to Stew, she wasn't cybernetically enhanced, but there was an unsuccessful attempt to do so. Personally I've always imagined the TX-0 project was some kind of attempt to biologically enhance Whirlwind-tan.
Title: Re: OS-tans and Tropes
Post by: Bella on April 08, 2012, 05:37:42 PM
WMG: BOS/360-tan and CTSS were friends.

This would have started sometime in the mid/late 1960s and lasted until CTSS-tan's and/or BOS-tan's death(s) in the early/mid 1970s.

I imagine CTSS-tan would be drawn to BOS/360 because she's quite nurturing and views BOS-tan as being somewhat like Multics (when she was young). I think BOS-tan would be drawn to CTSS-tan's kind, patient and supportive demeanor and would feel more comfortable around her than any of the other high-energy System/360-tans (particularly OS- and TOS/360).

It's also interesting to note that CTSS and BOS/360 died of the same ailment - having their life-force diminish due to a loss of followers/users.