Intro:
This thread is where I, and the other artists, will post any conceptual artwork, model sheets, and general reference material. This will alow all the artist to be on the same sheet of music. Consistancy in comics is good!
To become part of that Art Department see the OS TAN Comic Admin thread and apply! Of course... feel free to post some of your artwork just so we can see what your skill level is (try to make it OS tan related, but other examples of skill are welcome)
UPDATE
Things are moving slow, but progress it happening! Ive just purchased a new hardback sketch book Im dedicating to the project, Ive fixed the problems with my tablet and scanner drivers.
Ive also uploaded two quick sketches, and moved an older finished one from the fan art gallery to my own gallery.
For quick reference my gallery is:
http://ostan.blackdiam.net/gallery/index.php?cat=10255the two new sketches:
http://ostan.blackdiam.net/gallery/display...?album=48&pos=0http://ostan.blackdiam.net/gallery/display...?album=48&pos=1and the old finished one:
http://ostan.blackdiam.net/gallery/display...?album=49&pos=0I will be placing quick reference links to any artists working on the comic either in the Intro block of this thread or the main project thread eventually (when there are more artists then just me.)
happy to know that... i'm anxious for more updates... :yes:
Nice sketches Captain.
/me also anxious for more updates
Try drawing the JPG i posted somewhere... do ur best.
most recent thing I have to post (scaning sketches this weekend for more stuff i did in the feild)
this Is the only one I finished, and its not compleatly done. It was mostly a color test anyways. I picked my favorite pictire of 3.1 and Dos and inked and colored it up for a warm up and practice, also to help decide if we are going to use cell or soft shading. this is soft shading, there is a gradual difference in the shade, rather then cell, that is a blocks of shade (like a cartoon)
Im gonna color it again, but this time with cell shading so we can compair.
go 3.1, I love you![/img]
I told this to you already, CaptainBrenden-san, but I'll say it again.
I love this picture of Win3.1; the picture is like a professional had drawn it, the gracious lady in it is charming in her somehow out-of-date looks with gothic style, and the cat is nothing short of adorable. ^_^
I look forward to seeing more of great pictures like this from you, Captain! Good work! *thumbs up*
as I said before, thanks :D
Im still working on a Cell shaded version, and ill be scanning the pages of my sketch book soon. I also plan on finishing all my model sheets soon (Ill be drawing alot on leave) and I got tommarow off kinda, Ill be drawing then too.
Pretty good work. Uh, how much took u to do it?
not long really, well cept for drawing it 3 times cus i wasnt happy how it turned out but I liked the pose. that and the frilly bits were kinda a pain
Edit:
The first of the promised model sheets (some others have been sketched already, but Ill wait till their finished to post.)
Its presented colored without shade currently (color for reference purposes, Ill worry about shade later when I decide what style we are going to go with((soft or cell)))
Things on its I would like to make note of:
I did her shoes in brown. Now in most of the pictures Ive seen of 98, her shoes are usualy black, brown, or reddish brown. I choose the brown because she already had a good deal of black on her and I wanted the color. If anyone else has an opinion contrary to that please let me know.
Also, sometimes her shoes have been shown to be fancy high tech almost mecha like, but I opted for more standard normal shoes so that she wont seem as out of place if we decide to have her interact with the real world more (like going to school or something)
On the socks and gloves, Ive added detail lines for both wrinkled extra fabric a seams (on the back side of the gloves at least). I asumed that the goves and socks would be made of roughly the same material (cotten Id say) and would then leave extra material. Another possibility is that its more of tights kind of material, which would leave it smooth the entire length. Again any feedback contrary to what I have doodled would be appriciated.
Now I used a 6 head body proportion ratio as I felt it gave her a more child like feel. 98se will use the same, as will 3.1 I think. Me will probobly use a 7 head ratio, as where the more adult characters like 95 XP or 2k will use a 8 head ratio. Master might be more, with an 9-10, same with most of the Kuns if we use them at all.
Now Im sure we can all see there is a large amount of unused space on there, so you dont need to point that out. That there will be used later for droping a few facial expresions and such, other visual notes that I may need to post for her. For the time being though, Im concentrating on getting each character drawn up and basic costuming and look details hashed out, we can worry about slight diffences in how the characters show emotion/manurisums later.
Plus, Ill probobly draw a smaller model sheet of her snack box there later
I also did a nearly nude model sheet of her, (nearly meaning shes wearing her undergarments) so that if we ever need to design alternate costumes for her (pajama, work clothes, a holloween costume) its as simple as sketching a new outfit over her body from. I dont feel and priticular need to post that at the moment as its just a work tool for myself, but anyone that wants to work on the artwork as well or wants to try sketching a new outfit over it for something let me know and Ill get you a copy.
Well Im off to work on inking the next pair of models sheets, plus I had a good Idea for a cute picture of 98 I wanna draw up.
Looking good, CaptBrenden-san. As I pointed out earlier, I also prefer the "thicker", wrinkly material for socks and gloves. She does look like the shy, courage-lacking Win98-san there's been some talk about now. ^_^
Sigh... what would I give for seeing her smile... poor Win98-san. v_v
I changes 98san look a little bit, she looked a little to timid. Made her more cheerfull
Anyhow the reason Im posting is because I have decided that the comic itself is going to be done in traditional manga style with dot tones. I just got a adobe photoshop plugin that allows me to do that. it will save time and effort and and i think it will look great
color will still be done for promo art and cover arts
good day can i post an arwork here even its no digital art
cause i have no skills yet in digital editing.
hey post what ever you want art wise, well minus hentai -.- there is a section for that. But digital or traditional post away. You can post OS tan related or just samples of your skill
All the images either show 404-tan or a normal 404 error.
QuoteAll the images either show 404-tan or a normal 404 error.
Yeah people! Let's get these images back up here!
Don't know why the links don't work, but the images are still up in the gallery. Just a few more clics, they're in the Captain's gallery.
QuoteDon't know why the links don't work, but the images are still up in the gallery. Just a few more clics, they're in the Captain's gallery.
Hmm...they
do appear in the gallery. Must be the work of ChibiChibi, the goddess of Chibiology. Her dream of a perfect world will be realized through Animetics, a book published by the Church of Chibiology. It tells the story of how ChibiChibi created the world, then took all of mankind on spaceships that look like 707's to the planet Chibi 7, then destroyed Earth, then created it again, took mankind back, then modified it using Photoshop. Join the Church of Chibiology.
QuoteHmm...they do appear in the gallery. Must be the work of ChibiChibi, the goddess of Chibiology. Her dream of a perfect world will be realized through Animetics, a book published by the Church of Chibiology. It tells the story of how ChibiChibi created the world, then took all of mankind on spaceships that look like 707's to the planet Chibi 7, then destroyed Earth, then created it again, took mankind back, then modified it using Photoshop. Join the Church of Chibiology.
Chibichibi is no match for Waha, touble maker of the internet.
on another note, here is a unfinished pic for comments and saggestions. some of you may remember that this is the Prize pic for Mechazawas winning the name contest. It took a while to get it off of my crashed lap top. here it is in its unfinished glory!
or not... seems the file is too big. fuckberries. 256 is a small file. i mean fuck. >_<
Well a link to my scrap on DA will have to do.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39842592/
XP, riding her vespa, looking stylish as always. Let me know what you all think of her look in my style and such. tone off course still needs to be compleated but photoshop isnt working for me right now so i dont know when that will be...
*trot trot trot*
*inspect inspect*
Passing through here too, don't mind me....
*trot trot trot*
*stops*
Actually,... I was wondering....
You wanted to cel-shade the color test of 3.1-sama with DOSkitty, but so far I've only seen the soft-shaded version posted up. Did you ever complete the former? '__'
no, i decided I really didnt like that inkwork -_- and im just no good at cell shading so far, cus ive never really done it before. ive always been a soft shader.
not that it mattes so much, most of the actual pages are gonna be done in manga style, and the few ultra premium color pages or covers will just be soft shaded prolly.
the cell shading would be cool if I tried to make any mini flash eps
Darn. ;__;
Cel-shading is sort of my forte, but I suppose it is a moot point if you're gonna go ahead with the manga style. Cel-shading is efficient, but nothing beats black-and-white in that regard. ^__^
well, it depends on what our program situation looks like, but an inker would help.
Program situation? And do you mean real inker or digital inker? ^^
digital of course. -_-
the program problem is you using a program that i can use for the toning as well. -_- humm what to do what to do...? or pehaps we will find something that would suit you better
You mean by me using Inkscape?
Might not be a problem. I also have Photoshop, Illustrator, Manga Studio and a few other things at my disposal. ^__^
I imagine that I can use Illustrator to export a rasterized vector image in layers, which can then be used in whatever app you use to do soft shading and other essentials.
Or I can simply export to a very large PNG File.
Or maybe you can just detail your workflow just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding you. -v-
it would be manga studio then, I wasnt sure if you had it.
Actually so far im really impressed with the feel it gives to its art tools...
Well I definitely know I can export to it, so yes it's all good.
I can't draw without color, but I believe Manga Studio also converts imported files to grayscale so that shouldn't be a problem. -v-
But this is all hypothetically-speaking of course, till you get settled. ^__^
Ja! -v-
*trot trot trot*
eh.. What? where does greyscale come in? or color? Im lost.. I thought you had the program so you could ink...
*trot trot trot*
Wha? I thought you knew by now that I'm 100% vector. ^__^
That means I never sketch (all my sketch work looks like crap, so I never use it), so I cut off the middleman and go right straight to the line art (aka, inking). And when handling bezier curves, it's always more convenient to give them Fills (such as color) else it'll be a nightmare later to reselect them for editing purposes. (Plus, I need color to better visualize what I'm doing.) Automatic greyscaling is only a matter of convenience, since in Inkscape I can easily batch-remove all the Fills in my line art AFTER I've finished Inking-Coloring, thus exporting just the lines over a transparent background. (Naturally, I'd save the color version elsewhere for posterity.... ^^')
Both Illustrator and Manga Studio EX have vector tools of their own, but until I get used to them I can see myself doing the line art on a medium I'm used to (=Inkscape). At least for a while.
right.. well... I didnt really get any of that... cus i dont really do the vecter thing.. but the idea of doing a picture without a sketch seems crazy.
anyhow... the process will be along the lines of me sketching out the entier issue. since we both have manga studio there will be no problems with file compatability or anything like that. Inkage will be done on a seperate layer. The job I was mentioning was simply to asist in that stage as it will prolly be the longest and most time consuming in the whole thing.
after that will be toneage and speach bubbles. If we can find a fluent japanese speaker, the diologe will then need to be adapted and typed up for them
Quoteright.. well... I didnt really get any of that... cus i dont really do the vecter thing.. but the idea of doing a picture without a sketch seems crazy.
That's why I always say I'm more a sculptor than an artist. I first start out with BLOBs of polygions and shape them more or less to something like this....
http://ostan-collections.net/viewtopic.php?p=10599#10599
...then once the rough "sketch" is established, I add, chip away, and reposition till it looks the way I like it. -v-
I've gotten so used to this, freehanding with raster graphics feels awkward to me now. ^__^;
Quoteanyhow... the process will be along the lines of me sketching out the entier issue. since we both have manga studio there will be no problems with file compatability or anything like that. Inkage will be done on a seperate layer. The job I was mentioning was simply to asist in that stage as it will prolly be the longest and most time consuming in the whole thing.
If you want, shoot me a sketch of 3.1-sama or something, and I'll quickly ink it for you to see if you like my work. Inking (and coloring) is the easiest part for me, but shading and highlighting is the most time consuming. ^__^'
Quoteafter that will be toneage and speach bubbles. If we can find a fluent japanese speaker, the diologe will then need to be adapted and typed up for them
Definitely low priority, but we can use Google translations for placeholders.
well, well, we seem to be embroiled in a rather artsy discussion. My past pics have been primarily with Photoshop. Inkscape has proven to be quite hard for me to adjust to. ^^;
In order for me to get OS/2 in before christmas, I went with a sketch followed by manual inking (yes, with a pen), then photoshop's levels and all that good stuff.
As for cel-shading, I'm not that great at it either. Usually when I try, I end up smudging or blurring something cuz it looks terrible. ^^;
Furthermore, I have a terrible time trying to color things without a graphics tablet. Especially bg's, cuz I almost always draw those in digitally. (The ones I've done here are a bit of an exception, those bg's were made when I was having fun with photoshop filters. ^^)
I have no idea what I'm responding to, I'm just talking here ehe ^^
No no, it's fine I think.... ^__^
The poor Captain's DigiCom boards have been untouched for so long, I don't think he means the extra activity. -v-
Funny how vector graphics have made me the complete opposite of youz guys in all respects. I have to use the tablet cause Inkscape forces me too (the mouse on my wacom bugs out in the program -- only the pen behaves normally). Otherwise, mice are more precise and better suited for work in Inkscape (know this through working on it with my laptop and travel mouse). Unless I'm using freehand vector lines (which I rarely do), the pen ends up being more of a hindrance than a help due to its variable sensitivity. Anchors are often plotted in the wrong spot or the wrong bezier curves are activated with even the slightest twitch on the pad.
And the most annoying thing comes when zooming with the pen -- I've been hurled down to 10000x magnification so often, I've grown used to using the keyboard shortcuts instead.
So clearly both our methods are not without their share of unique faults and merits. If I do help out the captain, it'd be an interesting test to see just how useful vector art can be in real world applications. ^^
Right well, I can send you something to test on. got a Instant messanger program? Send me the info in PM.
This is an artwork thread... discussing of techniques and such is exactly what its for. Posting samples, tests, turorials, disscusion. However the main goal is to improve artwork for Digi Con, so avoid side tangets about custom tans you created or something like that. Non project artists are welcome to post as well if they have some tips or comments they want to point out.
No instant messenger whatsoever, but don't forget you do have my email address (remember when I sent you those old DOOM WADs months ago?). Just click on my "email" button or "www" button in each of my posts. -v-
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And ME? Tangents? @.@
Hohoho,... surely you jest. ^.^
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?album=48&pos=0
New sketch, gonna start scanning and uploading a bunch of sketches and post them here.