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Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Laevatein on February 08, 2007, 07:24:31 AM
BBC News Article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6338261.stm)

QuoteHackers attack heart of the net

Icann was one of the organisations targeted in the attack
Hackers have attempted to topple key parts of the internet's backbone, in one of the most significant attacks of recent years.
The target was servers that help to direct global internet traffic.

In the early hours of Tuesday three key servers were hit by a barrage of data in what is known as a distributed denial-of-service attack.

There is no evidence so far of damage, which experts are saying is testament to the robust nature of the internet.

Websites unreachable

The so-called root servers involved in the attack act as a kind of global address book for the internet by translating website name information into IP addresses to enable computers to visit particular sites.

The servers involved were each operated by a separate body - the US Defense Department, the net's oversight body ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) and UltraDNS, which manages traffic for websites ending in "org" and some other suffixes.

The most interesting element of this concerted attack is that the system demonstrated the benefits of being dispersed and interoperable. There was no one point of failure,

Paul Levins, Icann

"Last night we were seeing attacks which lasted for a couple of hours. There were probably hundreds of root server operators co-operating around the globe to make sure that the average user wouldn't notice," said Paul Levins, executive officer of Icann.

The fact that the attack remained invisible to users is being hailed as a success.

"The most interesting element of this concerted attack is that the system demonstrated the benefits of being dispersed and interoperable. There was no one point of failure," said Mr Levins.

The type of attack favoured in this case involves floods of data being sent to a machine in an effort to knock it over.

"A denial-of-service attack is a bit like fourteen fat men trying to get into an elevator - nothing can move," explained Graham Cluley, senior consultant at security firm Sophos.

If a part of the DNS system went down it would mean websites could be unreachable and e-mail undeliverable.

Research last year suggested that holes in the net's addressing system could leave 85% of the net vulnerable to take over if hackers combined simple attacks with denial-of-service attacks.

Mischief or money?

The fact that the attack remained invisible to users will be seen as evidence that the heart of the net can be kept healthy.

It was, said Mr Levin, too early to analyse exactly what happened or why; although there is speculation that zombie computers - the machines of innocent users which are recruited by hackers - were involved in the attack.

Whether the motive was mischief or money - in the form of blackmail - remains to be seen but Mr Cluley believes it is more likely to be the former.

"If money is involved there is a trail for investigators to follow. Attacking a target like this is just asking for trouble - like letting a huge bomb off in a building," he said.

Kudos to robust security procedures (and the internet's inherent decentralized nature) that we never even felt a thing ^^
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Triple8 on February 08, 2007, 05:15:47 PM
This made me lol.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: CaptBrenden on February 09, 2007, 12:01:42 AM
The internet is not like a man you can kill, its a series of tubes!
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: NejinOniwa on February 09, 2007, 02:53:24 PM
What a bunch of stupids.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on February 09, 2007, 06:05:13 PM
it's time to use some alternative DNS-services! Cessidian comes to mind...
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Spysweeper on February 09, 2007, 10:09:23 PM
You can't get rid of the internet, it's to broad and too many things too account for.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on February 10, 2007, 03:44:07 PM
Still, the DNS system is something like the weakest link.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Triple8 on February 10, 2007, 05:37:49 PM
Why would they want to destroy the internet anyway? Money? Notoriety? Without the internets... economy would suck!
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on February 10, 2007, 05:42:44 PM
Blackmailing the authorities running the DNS-service... either you give us $amount or we will DDoS you out of business.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Bluesummers on March 09, 2007, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: "CaptBrenden"The internet is not like a man you can kill, its a series of tubes!
The internet is not a man...it's a monster. *laughs*
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: CaptBrenden on March 09, 2007, 10:42:10 PM
-_- it was a reference to a comment made by.. crap, what was his name?   some politician, explaining that the internet wasnt like a truck you can put things on, it was like a series of tubes.  Seemed relevant at the time -_-
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on March 10, 2007, 12:21:18 AM
Yeah! The american equivalent to the famous: "Datenautenbahnen sind Ländersache!" (Information superhighways are a state issue).
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: zjhentohlauedy on March 10, 2007, 05:31:56 AM
they are even more stupid if they tried to kill the internet.
why would hackers destroy the only place that they might even feel a little bit superior on? its like a farmer poisoning his own land.  ;026
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: NejinOniwa on March 10, 2007, 09:14:05 AM
They are masochists?  ;013
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on March 10, 2007, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: "zjhentohlauedy"they are even more stupid if they tried to kill the internet.
why would hackers destroy the only place that they might even feel a little bit superior on? its like a farmer poisoning his own land.  ;026
they attemted killing the DNS, which is not the internet. The internet can work just fine without domain name service. And as I said, there are several alternative DNS-systems, besides the default one. So it was more like stopping gas stations to sell gas so they can ride the bicycles without all the lamers. Or it was supposed to show that the internet in that case is not was decentral as it was designed. Or it was attempted blackmailing...
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: NejinOniwa on March 10, 2007, 02:12:53 PM
...that, or there was just some haxxor idiot who had nothing to do and decided to wreak some havoc and show it to his friends so that he could make THEM buy him drinks all night for the rizzpect (yaw foo) he'd earned.


Or it was a conspiracy.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on March 10, 2007, 02:21:04 PM
To build such a botnet, you need more than one idiot!
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: NejinOniwa on March 10, 2007, 02:48:47 PM
How about one idiot with an army of split personalities?
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on March 10, 2007, 04:44:45 PM
Only if he uses hyperthreading (see the random picture thread where I posted an ELER comic).
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: NejinOniwa on March 10, 2007, 05:25:03 PM
THAT would be seriously, ziggingly friggin downright scary.
Five times with vaseline.
>,>
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on March 10, 2007, 05:32:52 PM
well, I would so want that ability! well, SMP would be even better, but still!
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: dijiko on March 16, 2007, 07:07:19 PM
HAHA! idoits!
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: dephy on March 18, 2007, 04:09:40 PM
LOL like anyone could ever shut down the internet.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on March 18, 2007, 04:25:24 PM
Well, dephy, the DNS system is the weakest link. Of course, eveerything would still be reachable, but only if you know the IP-addresses.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: NejinOniwa on March 18, 2007, 05:07:19 PM
And THAT is only for SUPREME HAXXORS to know.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on March 18, 2007, 05:11:42 PM
Well, imagine you were in front of your PC and suddenly no URLs were resolved anymore. to how many sites/services would you be able to have access to?

SUPREME HAXXORS use alternative DNS systems anyways and therefore are unaffected.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: NejinOniwa on March 18, 2007, 06:52:38 PM
Well, isn't that what i just said?
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on March 18, 2007, 07:11:55 PM
Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic. My parents for a while had problems with the DNS-setting, meaning sometimes names did not resolve and thus put things in the hosts-file, which we needed most :)
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: kroekoe on March 19, 2007, 04:56:23 AM
the begining made me lmao, hu, funny
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: NejinOniwa on March 19, 2007, 08:49:58 AM
Don't worry, tuxy! I AM a user of extreme sarcasm after all, so mistaking stuff i say for that isn't very unusual...
And you say your folks had DNS problems? That must've been a hell XD
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kami-Tux on March 19, 2007, 02:00:32 PM
Our network was. Well, my PC was nearest to the access point so I was always the one who had to let parents use the personal PC (and hold their hands because they can not use Linux)... My parents still use that WLAN* and put one of their PCs in my former room :)

*it was their idea, so they will not replace it.
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: NejinOniwa on March 19, 2007, 05:02:11 PM
Oh gollies, you're havin' it tough, ain't ya, ssu? Kawai-sou na mono-ssu...
Title: Hackers attempt to kill internet...
Post by: Kyo-Chan on September 26, 2007, 12:22:00 PM
To kill the internet, you must create an EMP weapon big enough to fry every single communications system on earth, and you must strategicly place one in:
Butte, Montana
London, England
Moscow, Russia
Tokyo, Japan.

^_^

Yes, I know how to kill the internet.


But I'm not teaching you how to make an EMP weapon untill you give me the first season of Suzumiya Haruhi no YÅ«utsu on DVD and a case full of strawberry pocky.