Just a place where I guess we can ask questions regarding backstories of the OS-tans, or otherwise have discussions that don't quite fit anywhere else ;)
Ah-ha! So you DID make this thread! ^___^
Okay, works for me! ^v^
First order of business,..... to transfer ideas from that "Where are They" thread.
I myself compromise between both your propositions, and do picture the OS-tans living in some surreal cybernetic world which at the same time parallels our own real world. The Windows-tans and Mac-tans live in their company-provided housing (in the Mac's case, a living breathing house), whereas most of the other OS-tans live scattered throughout the world. In some cases they band together into their own cooperatives, such as the Vintage girls at the Binteji Renmei
Could say more, but too tired. X__x
QuoteI myself compromise between both your propositions, and do picture the OS-tans living in some surreal cybernetic world which at the same time parallels our own real world. The Windows-tans and Mac-tans live in their company-provided housing (in the Mac's case, a living breathing house), whereas most of the other OS-tans live scattered throughout the world. In some cases they band together into their own cooperatives, such as the Vintage girls at the Binteji Renmei
Questions like this, inevitably, lead to "where did they come from" or "what are they". I mean, how does hardware and stuff (which one OS can run of thousands of) add into this? I don't think these are completely answerable.
One word of advice...think Quantum. >:3
Quote from: "Bella"QuoteI myself compromise between both your propositions, and do picture the OS-tans living in some surreal cybernetic world which at the same time parallels our own real world. The Windows-tans and Mac-tans live in their company-provided housing (in the Mac's case, a living breathing house), whereas most of the other OS-tans live scattered throughout the world. In some cases they band together into their own cooperatives, such as the Vintage girls at the Binteji Renmei
Questions like this, inevitably, lead to "where did they come from" or "what are they". I mean, how does hardware and stuff (which one OS can run of thousands of) add into this? I don't these are completely answerable.
Or just do as you please :P
Aside discussions about OS-tans origins (I mean, where did they originated, who created them, what inspired them, they're accepted designs, etc), which are already difficult to answer, OS-tans =/= serious business
So when drawing I think the only thing you have to is to draw as you please and have fun. Thats the spirit of memes (including OS-tans), so it's almost pointless to try to find a logical explanation that applies to all the OS-tan material out there.
Applying Nejin's opinion here: logic is to OS-tans as relativistic physics is to quantum physics :D
QuoteOr just do as you please :P
Aside discussions about OS-tans origins (I mean, where did they originated, who created them, what inspired them, they're accepted designs, etc), which are already difficult to answer, OS-tans =/= serious business
So when drawing I think the only thing you have to is to draw as you please and have fun. Thats the spirit of memes (including OS-tans), so it's almost pointless to try to find a logical explanation that applies to all the OS-tan material out there.
Applying Nejin's opinion here: logic is to OS-tans as relativistic physics is to quantum physics
My point exactly ;) Nobody has a 100% clear idea and no two people's ideas are the same on these broad subjects.
I'd rather focus on the different groups, designing new OS-tans, etc etc. than quarrel about what they are, where they came from, in RL or pretend, or whatever.
You also forgot to mention that you're technically creating a comic as well, and need some sort of halfway-coherent universe in which to stick your characters in else they lose half their charm as OS personifications. I originally loved OS-tans, not necessarily because of how they looked, but also because of all the witty technical references employed (e.g., ME-tan emptying out a recycling bin, or fragmenting a defragging job by 2K-tan, or opening a love letter to unleash worms, etc.).
With Unices and DECs, the challenge for Bella-san is greater because she's never even heard of them not but a few months ago, and has to be able to research quite a lot about them before she can hope to match the same level of witty referencing and easter egg laying. Otherwise, you just end up with generic (albeit beautifully-dressed) characters with old operating system names plastered on them (otherwise known as Console-tans.... ^________^; )
QuoteYou also forgot to mention that you're technically creating a comic as well, and need some sort of halfway-coherent universe in which to stick your characters in else they lose half their charm as OS personifications. I originally loved OS-tans, not necessarily because of how they looked, but also because of all the witty technical references employed (e.g., ME-tan emptying out a recycling bin, or fragmenting a defragging job by 2K-tan, or opening a love letter to unleash worms, etc.).
Heehee, I first thought OS-tans were neat because they kinda "humanized" OSs...if that makes sense...
QuoteWith Unices and DECs, the challenge for Bella-san is greater because she's never even heard of them not but a few months ago, and has to be able to research quite a lot about them before she can hope to match the same level of witty referencing and easter egg laying. Otherwise, you just end up with generic (albeit beautifully-dressed) characters with old operating system names plastered on them (otherwise known as Console-tans.... ^________^;
Very true.
It's somewhat difficult to find really interesting (RL) stories that relate to a lot of "old" OSs (whereas our new ones have tales of viru-tans, BSODs, etc...)
I've found some interesting trivia about DEC, though...maybe somehow these could be worked into a storyline...
(Quotes from Wikipedia article on DEC)
QuoteThe first spam in computer history was sent in 1979 by a Digital employee. Over 400 people received his promotional message via the Arpanet network.
QuoteOne of the most unusual peripherals produced for the PDP-10 was the DECtape. The DECtape was a length of standard magnetic tape wound on 5" reels. However, the recording format was a 10-track approach using fixed-length numbered 'blocks' organized into a standard file structure, including a directory. Files could be written, read, changed and deleted on a DECtape as through it were a hard drive. In fact, some PDP-10 systems had no hard drives at all, using DECtapes alone for their primary data storage. For greater efficiency, the DECtape drive could read and write to a DECtape in both directions.
QuotePDP operating systems were the model for many other operating systems. CP/M used a command syntax similar to RT-11's, and even retained the awkward PIP program which was used to copy programs. DEC's use of '/' for "switches" (command-line options) would lead to the adoption of '\' for pathnames in Windows as opposed to '/' in Unix.
QuoteAs an aside, the three brought up a final test version on the main VAX used by the VMS development group. No comments were heard from the VMS developers whose terminals greeted them the next morning with a Unix login prompt...
A couple of games they developed (some of the earliest computer games):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Lander
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacewar%21
And as for actual personalities, very roughly, I see it like this:
DOS/Batch 11-tan:
QuoteDOS-11 was not known to be easy to use even in its day and became much less used in 1973 with the release of the RT-11 operating system.
Difficult (maybe even more than she was useful!), not well liked by "employees"...she had a somewhat short life, and not many were sad to see her die.
Ultrix-tan (DEC's BSD):
Not entirely sure, but I think she'd be quite competitive with VMS-san. VMS-san would be a bit jealous of her, but would ultimately be more successful.
I'll post some more ideas, cause now I have to go. to. sleep.
QuoteI'll post some more ideas, cause now I have to go. to. sleep.
Nope,... forbidden for Bella-san! ^0^
You must stay up all night drawing win and stuff..... ^-^
Back to work!! ^v^
*whiplash*
*reads about the DECs*
Gyaaaaaaaaah! That sure takes me back some....! ^_______^
*C-chan swoons in reminiscence*
You spoke of witty layering and the occasional easter egg, which is why I am trying to research more on Digital.
One interesting link between Homeko and DOS/Batch 11-tan (because one could theorize DOS/Batch 11 is perhaps the oldest known ancestor of XP) would be some of the attitude. As I said before, I see DOS/Batch 11-tan as being difficult and grating, maybe even a little crazed at times...perhaps some of her attitude was passed down to her great-great-granddaughter Homeko (which, as we all know, is canonized as having a difficult, crazy, albeit perverse, demeanor...though she's nice to me XD)
Another link I see is directly between NT-san and VMS-san, both being excellent swordswomen.
As for other character ideas, I see RT-11-tan as physically being around the age range of an older teenager, on the short side (because RT-11 is described as being "small"; I've no idea what "small" means, though). Attitude-wise, being a little more lighthearted than her other siblings; she enjoys gaming (or I should say very old games) a lot, and loves to challenge people to matches ;)
If we can define what gaming is to an OS-tan...XD
RSX 11-san I think would look similar to VMS-san, except with light gray or silver hair; Her attitude would be on the somber side (growing up with DOS/batch 11-tan as a mother/mentor couldn't have been fun XD); she gave her daughter, VMS-san, all her knowledge of fighting, bravery, and a substantial amount of her unhappy nature (because I think VMS-san had a somewhat quiet attitude in youth...when she discovered her clone, NT-tan, I think that would have driven her to her current fringe, slightly psychotic state)
Sorry, still swooned. Stand by for full consciousness so I can continue to admire your interest and research in the old DEC family of yore..... XvX
*swoons*
I'm really not sure what -tan designs would fit such old OS's as TOPS or OS/8, but here are some random thoughts on the perspective, post-Unix, DEC OS-tans, as a whole:
(From Wikipedia)
QuoteThe first versions of the C programming language and the UNIX operating system ran on Digital's PDP series of computers (first on a PDP-7, then the PDP-11's), which were the first commercially viable minicomputers, although for several years Digital itself did not encourage the use of Unix.
QuoteThe VAX could use both Unix and DEC's own VMS operating system.
Makes me think that while the DEC OS-tans were willing to do business with Unix-sama (and probably on many occasions) they, openly, did not like each other,
*I can just imagine where they (VMS-san, RSX-san, etc...) invite Unix-sama to dinner, just to tell her that they hate her...but...not to let that get in the way of business...
Or a hi-larious scene with crazy DOS/Batch 11-tan and Unix-sama...*
and...
QuoteDEC tried to compete in the Unix market by marketing the VMS operating system as "OpenVMS" and by selling their own Unix (OSF/1 AXP, later renamed Digital UNIX, and even later Tru64), and it began to advertise more aggressively. DEC was simply not prepared to sell into a crowded Unix market however, and furthermore the low end PC-servers running NT (based on Intel processors) took market share from Alpha-based computers. DEC's workstation and server line never gained much popularity beyond former DEC customers.
...The DEC-tans and Unix-sama (and/or her daughters) probably got into a few battles. Moreover, NT-san may have, at some point, gotten into a fight or two with her very ancestors, ironically not knowing the truth behind her "enemies"...
QuoteDEC was acquired by Compaq in June 1998, which subsequently merged with Hewlett-Packard in May 2002.
The still alive or marketable DEC-tans (like Digital Unix, [AKA Tru64 Unix]-tan and VMS-san) were taken in by Compaq when they bought out their company. Later they became in league with HP; Therefor, I believe HP UX-tan would be their "stepsister". I'm not really sure how these shakeups would have effected the former DEC-tans...I mean, OpenVMS still seems to be alive and kicking at HP...but psychologically, being separated from her home, her culture, and her old relatives...
QuoteI'm really not sure what -tan designs would fit such old OS's as TOPS or OS/8, but here are some random thoughts on the perspective, post-Unix, DEC OS-tans, as a whole:
FYI, I had a loose character concept for TOPS-sama before as something of a Mitsune (from Love Hina) type. But that's in her Binteji Renmei form, where she's laid back "enjoying" the fun and frivoloties of retirement. In her youth she would have definitely been a fighter. ^__^
QuoteMakes me think that while the DEC OS-tans were willing to do business with Unix-sama (and probably on many occasions) they, openly, did not like each other,
*I can just imagine where they (VMS-san, RSX-san, etc...) invite Unix-sama to dinner, just to tell her that they hate her...but...not to let that get in the way of business...
Or a hi-larious scene with crazy DOS/Batch 11-tan and Unix-sama...*
Yeah, that sounds about right. UNIX-sama may have been more hot-headed in her youth, but now she finds that kind of unbridled hatred amusing. Ther is no love in business after all, which makes conversations with Linux-sama all the more refreshing since she has no coherent grasp of traditional business "etiquette".
(I imagine that for the uber-old school DEC-tans, they probably view Linux as some kind of idealistic brat, nutcase, hippy or [choose your old-fashioned admonishment]. ^__^'
Quote...The DEC-tans and Unix-sama (and/or her daughters) probably got into a few battles. Moreover, NT-san may have, at some point, gotten into a fight or two with her very ancestors, ironically not knowing the truth behind her "enemies"...
I don't want the DEC-tans to appear ignorant, as they still possess SOME connections and can find ways (however covert) to get information. But imagine if you will that VMS-sama helped M$ all on her own without divulging this to anyone in her family (although RSX-sama may have found out on her own anyway), and thus she's the only harboring the secret of the "abomination's" true identity?
No real reason to do so, other than to heighten the soap opera sense of drama, especially when NT-tan is unknowingly asked to fight blood relatives. ^___^'
QuoteThe still alive or marketable DEC-tans (like Digital Unix, [AKA Tru64 Unix]-tan and VMS-san) were taken in by Compaq when they bought out their company. Later they became in league with HP; Therefor, I believe HP UX-tan would be their "stepsister". I'm not really sure how these shakeups would have effected the former DEC-tans...I mean, OpenVMS still seems to be alive and kicking at HP...but psychologically, being separated from her home, her culture, and her old relatives...
Fufufu... well now you definitely know why I wanted to keep VMS-sama as living in the fringes, since she's trying to eek out an existence in a world far removed from the one she grew up in. In the case of her employment at Compaq, I reckon it would be akin of taking up a job as a temp after spending half your life working as a CEO of a famous company. It puts bread on the table, but she hates it and spends as much time on her own as humanly possible. ^___^'
QuoteFYI, I had a loose character concept for TOPS-sama before as something of a Mitsune (from Love Hina) type. But that's in her Binteji Renmei form, where she's laid back "enjoying" the fun and frivoloties of retirement. In her youth she would have definitely been a fighter. ^__^
I see most of the older OS-tans as being fighters...
Not like our lazy modern OS-tans XD
QuoteYeah, that sounds about right. UNIX-sama may have been more hot-headed in her youth, but now she finds that kind of unbridled hatred amusing. Ther is no love in business after all, which makes conversations with Linux-sama all the more refreshing since she has no coherent grasp of traditional business "etiquette".
Hoohooo...! I never thought of it that way...makes me wonder about the relationship between Slackware-tan and Unix-sama (because, at least I think, Slackware-tan really wants to be like Unix-sama and follow her teachings but she also adores Linux-sama...t would make for some funny self-conflict)
Quote(I imagine that for the uber-old school DEC-tans, they probably view Linux as some kind of idealistic brat, nutcase, hippy or [choose your old-fashioned admonishment]. ^__^'
I’ll take idealistic, socialist hippy, thank you... But, yeah, I do see the DEC-tans as kinda annoyed by the Linuxes...
QuoteI don't want the DEC-tans to appear ignorant, as they still possess SOME connections and can find ways (however covert) to get information. But imagine if you will that VMS-sama helped M$ all on her own without divulging this to anyone in her family (although RSX-sama may have found out on her own anyway), and thus she's the only harboring the secret of the "abomination's" true identity?
No real reason to do so, other than to heighten the soap opera sense of drama, especially when NT-tan is unknowingly asked to fight blood relatives. ^___^'
I guess it would be a bit interesting to think that hardly any of the DEC-tans know of the VMS/WNT(< had to do that) connection, but I think some (like you said, RSX-san [Who I also see as wise enough to make the connection], as well as a couple of the more modern, “in-touch†ones) know...even if not on a conscious level, or, they’re just in denial, calling it as a strange coincidence, and they’d never point out the similarities between their “sister†and NT-tan. I think part of the sad irony would be the incredible physical and mental similarities between the two, perhaps only offset by their incredible differences ;)
While we’re on the subject of soap opera storylines, I’d like to think that VMS-san would have been the motherly type, (much like NT-tan), if she had been given the chance. Sadly, though, the only “daughter†she ever had was never raised or taught by her, and they’ve never even really met outside of battle circumstances...
But I can see where VMS-san (or I should say NT-san, via VMS-san) was could be the greatest help to the M$ family...had they stuck it out with MSDOS based OSs or gone with OS/2 (which I've heard wasn't as stable as IBM/M$ said it was), perhaps they wouldn't have gotten such a foothold in the server market...
QuoteFufufu... well now you definitely know why I wanted to keep VMS-sama as living in the fringes, since she's trying to eek out an existence in a world far removed from the one she grew up in. In the case of her employment at Compaq, I reckon it would be akin of taking up a job as a temp after spending half your life working as a CEO of a famous company. It puts bread on the table, but she hates it and spends as much time on her own as humanly possible. ^___^'
And now at HP she’s stuck in a position between two Unix-tans (and I think we all know how she gets along with them)…Oh yes, fringes indeed O__o
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/202.jpg)
Just another preconcept sketch of DOS batch 11 (or just DOS-11)-tan...I see her in the mid-to-older teenage age range...maybe, if not from the simple fact the "DOS" in her name remindes me of disk operating system-tans : / That and the fact that DEC only released DOS 11 for 4 years, and much of the users stoped using DOS-11 in 1973 when RT-11 came out (That's also why I think she'd be especially prickly with a perspective RT11-tan....)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/Copyof202.jpg)
and here's the preconcept sketch for an RT11-tan, or at least a young one...somehow I see her as being a cheery (or at least cheerier than most DEC-tans) type...in spare time, she likes playing old-fashioned games, and she stuck it out with her company, loyally, to the very end.
And speaking of RSX-san, I keep thinking she'd be a bit like Izumi from Fullmetal Alchemist....a tough-love kind of teacher. She's still strong, but in recent years she just can't quite exert herself like she used to...
2 wordz...me liek. -w-
Thanks :D
I really like DOS 11-tan...kinda...
WAAAAAAAH!!!!! >0<
Still need a raincheck. ^^;
*offers to convert self into Italian Sausage sandwich as compensation*
Or would you prefer huevos con chorizo?
Cause I can do either or,... benefits of being a wannabe mutli-ethnic chef and all. ^.^'
OKAY!!!!!!
I know I'm on the verge of collapse right now, but by GAWD!! I shan't keep a lady waiting any longer! ^0^
...
Or at least a "real-life" lady anyway.... -v-;
*sacrifices some brief Metroid Prime 3 gameplay in order to type response*
QuoteI see most of the older OS-tans as being fighters...
Not like our lazy modern OS-tans XD
Precisely!
Keh!!! Kids these days just don't know what it means to struggle, or use a command line,... or even live without a monitor!! *tsk tsk tsk* -v-
Ohhhh,... how youth is wasted on the young. ^___^
QuoteHoohooo...! I never thought of it that way...makes me wonder about the relationship between Slackware-tan and Unix-sama (because, at least I think, Slackware-tan really wants to be like Unix-sama and follow her teachings but she also adores Linux-sama...t would make for some funny self-conflict)
I would think the Queen Mother would view Slackware in much the same way one would look at a a small girl who likes to pretend she's a grown-up (even though Slackware is one of the oldest Linux-tans of all.... ^^;
Yep, plenty of room for humor there. ^___^
QuoteI’ll take idealistic, socialist hippy, thank you... But, yeah, I do see the DEC-tans as kinda annoyed by the Linuxes...
Especially with the much older OS-tans, computing used to be relegated to the level of elites and engineers,... a true technocracy (or oligarchy?), set up since the days of GMOS-sama and SAGE-sama. Everyone knew to respect them, tip their hats or bow when they saw them coming down the streets, and turn a blind eye to their almost "colonial" approach to running their affairs. So of course, the first personal computer OS-tans, like ][-tan and PETchan, would've been like the Beatles to that old order,... scandolously rebellious and infecting their beloved profession with the ranks of so many untrained, foolhardy youths,... but only a scant precursor to the barbarian HORDES that would come in the next two decades. ^_______^'
And yes, the Linux-tans would just be like another nail in the coffin, not only giving MORE Power to the People (setting up systems for the schools, homes, and hospitals of the POOR,... FOR FREE!!!!! HOW PREPOSTEROUS!!!), but also divulging many of their trade secrets to boot!
QuoteI guess it would be a bit interesting to think that hardly any of the DEC-tans know of the VMS/WNT(< had to do that) connection, but I think some (like you said, RSX-san [Who I also see as wise enough to make the connection], as well as a couple of the more modern, “in-touch†ones) know...even if not on a conscious level, or, they’re just in denial, calling it as a strange coincidence, and they’d never point out the similarities between their “sister†and NT-tan. I think part of the sad irony would be the incredible physical and mental similarities between the two, perhaps only offset by their incredible differences
You got the idea, but it's not like I ever doubted you could. ^___^
Incidentally, aside from RSX-sama, UNIX-sama would also know as well. Not that the Queen Mother is low enough to divulge that information to anyone else (certainly not to her old rivals), but on occasion she loves to,.... "imply" that in private [peace-time] conversations with VMS-sama.... you know, just for some fun psychological torture.
[I say "peace-time", cause when open hostilaties flare up, UNIX-sama has no time for jokes.]
QuoteWhile we’re on the subject of soap opera storylines, I’d like to think that VMS-san would have been the motherly type, (much like NT-tan), if she had been given the chance. Sadly, though, the only “daughter†she ever had was never raised or taught by her, and they’ve never even really met outside of battle circumstances...
Agreed. ^^
In a way, if you do follow the CIOST arc that I set up, VMS-sama's decision to band together so many displaced OS-tans could be interpreted as a way to create a "surrogate family" of sorts (especially since the vast majority of them are younger than she is). But of course, that's no substitute and neither are her beloved sharks. Poor Mama VMS leaves a very troubled life. ^^;
QuoteBut I can see where VMS-san (or I should say NT-san, via VMS-san) was could be the greatest help to the M$ family...had they stuck it out with MSDOS based OSs or gone with OS/2 (which I've heard wasn't as stable as IBM/M$ said it was), perhaps they wouldn't have gotten such a foothold in the server market...
On the other hand, they might've kept Xenix-sama and perhaps made something useful with her. ^___^
(or perhaps marketed OS/2 a little better to make it the successful OS-tan she deserved to be.... ^.^)
Then again... woulda coulda shoulda.... no use crying over spilt milk.... ^___^;
QuoteJust another preconcept sketch of DOS batch 11 (or just DOS-11)-tan...I see her in the mid-to-older teenage age range...maybe, if not from the simple fact the "DOS" in her name remindes me of disk operating system-tans : / That and the fact that DEC only released DOS 11 for 4 years, and much of the users stoped using DOS-11 in 1973 when RT-11 came out (That's also why I think she'd be especially prickly with a perspective RT11-tan....)
Yeah, when I first researched old OS-tans, I got confused by the overprevalence of ancient "DOS-tans".
However, all the "DOSes" we know where derived in some form or another from CP/M, but the actual label "DOS" is fairly prevalent since it just means "Disk Operating System". ^.^
But agreed, it's kinda cute to make them youngish-looking if at least to establish a kind of "DOS-tan Tradition". ^__^
Even VSE-sama (formerly "DOS/360"-tan), who is a Mainframe-tan that I hope to draw one day, essentially barrels down to looking like a 24 meter-tall MSDOS-tan (not quite, but almost). ^^;
Surprised that DOS-11-sama is only equipped with a mere knife, though. ^^
Quoteand here's the preconcept sketch for an RT11-tan, or at least a young one...somehow I see her as being a cheery (or at least cheerier than most DEC-tans) type...in spare time, she likes playing old-fashioned games, and she stuck it out with her company, loyally, to the very end.
Awww... wish I had seen her earlier, she's so cute for an Ancient! ^v^
Course, what does she use as a weapon? (cause even the happy, go-lucky Ancients knew how to pack a punch) ^___^
QuoteAnd speaking of RSX-san, I keep thinking she'd be a bit like Izumi from Fullmetal Alchemist....a tough-love kind of teacher. She's still strong, but in recent years she just can't quite exert herself like she used to...
*questions marks riddle C-chan's head*
Welp,... your the Full Metal Jacket,... er, "Alchemist" expert. ^^;
I'm still just barely getting through Ghost in the Shell 2nd GIG. ^.^;
*collapses over keyboard*
I'm done! Xvx;
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz -____-
Added after 9 hours 32 minutes: Oh btw, wanted to share this with everyone, but I know Bella-san would get a real kick out of this one.... ^___^
*Nix Comics (http://folk.uio.no/hpv/linuxtoons/)
QuoteI would think the Queen Mother would view Slackware in much the same way one would look at a a small girl who likes to pretend she's a grown-up (even though Slackware is one of the oldest Linux-tans of all.... ^^;
Yep, plenty of room for humor there. ^___^
And somehow I can see where Slackware-tan would kinda berate some of her more "friendly" sisters for being "sell outs" XD
Maybe like Ubuntu-sama and certainly the Windows dopplegangers ;)
QuoteSo of course, the first personal computer OS-tans, like ][-tan and PETchan, would've been like the Beatles to that old order,... scandolously rebellious and infecting their beloved profession with the ranks of so many untrained, foolhardy youths,... but only a scant precursor to the barbarian HORDES that would come in the next two decades. ^_______^'
Woohoo! The Beatles :D
So, I guess the Windows-tans would be like punk rockers or something XD
QuoteYou got the idea, but it's not like I ever doubted you could. ^___^
Incidentally, aside from RSX-sama, UNIX-sama would also know as well. Not that the Queen Mother is low enough to divulge that information to anyone else (certainly not to her old rivals), but on occasion she loves to,.... "imply" that in private [peace-time] conversations with VMS-sama.... you know, just for some fun psychological torture.
[I say "peace-time", cause when open hostilaties flare up, UNIX-sama has no time for jokes.]
Psychological torture for VMS-sama using NT-tan? Did I say Unix-sama was great? Now she's INCREDIBLY AWESOME ;006
And lest we not forgeteth The Book Of Unix-sama-ism,
"The Goddess hath knowith everything, about every single OS that runnith and creepith on the world. For she is Root."QuoteAgreed. ^^
In a way, if you do follow the CIOST arc that I set up, VMS-sama's decision to band together so many displaced OS-tans could be interpreted as a way to create a "surrogate family" of sorts (especially since the vast majority of them are younger than she is). But of course, that's no substitute and neither are her beloved sharks. Poor Mama VMS leaves a very troubled life. ^^;
Awwww....I've never thought of it that way...
(I just got an odd image of VMS-sama in a wetsuit, going out to dive with her sharks XD)
QuoteCourse, what does she use as a weapon? (cause even the happy, go-lucky Ancients knew how to pack a punch) ^___^
Must be something bladed, for sure ;)
QuoteOh btw, wanted to share this with everyone, but I know Bella-san would get a real kick out of this one.... ^___^
*Nix Comics
ZOMG those are frickin great :D
Now, go to the bathroom or get a snack before you start reading. Cause I'm about to talk your ear off with some....
Random (this time NT, VMS and OS/2-tan) Conjuncture time!Usually, NT-tan is depicted as either a girl (usually a blue-eyed & dark haired)
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/os-tans/Windows%20NT/normal_1088221834099.jpg)
or the more common (lilac-haired, motherly) young woman
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10622/normal_1157023495857.jpg)
so it's probably logical to say that the pictures where she's an adult are "current depictions" while the girl is young NT-tan. Perhaps they could be seen as different NT versions (youngest NT-tan being 3.1, whereas the older "current" NT-tan would be NT 4.0, the last release marketed as NT before they moved onto 2000, XP, etc.)...I know Deja Vu got into a huge debacle for attemping to make a separate NT-tan for one of the releases, but I figure since these would all be the same character just at different ages, I'm pretty safe ;)
I think a picture like the first, or these I drew,
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/207.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/Copyof207.jpg)
would be NT-tan between, lets say, the development/test stages of the OS and ver. 3.1 or 3.5, physically 10-12, and between the years of, whenever MS started working on NT and 1993/94.. Quiet, thoughtful, caring (like most depictions of her are), yet not entirely sure of her background. Not that she cares much about that; to her she's just another Windows sister, even if she's "different" from them in a lot of ways (IE, she's more stable than her relatives). In lieu of a mother, I think she would look up to 3.1-sama; although, her admiration may be more about 3.1-sama's beauty and less about her character (since NT 3.5's GUI looked like Windows 3.1). She also shows great aptitude in swordsmanship (besides being pictured with bladed weapons on occasion, this a backward-reference to VMS-sama, whom also has talent with sword fighting); although an asset, it will mostly be her likable nature (and the Unixes self-destructing) that will help her conquer the server market.
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11618/normal_nt004.jpg)
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/Backgrounds/Group/normal_1091296549147.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/CopyofCopyof207.jpg)
I think that this would be NT-tan between versions 3.5 and 3.51 or 4.0, a teenager, and between the years of 1994 and 95/96. She's helping her family and company take the server market; although, not as stable as many of the Unixes she's overtaken, people seem to like her a lot and find her easy to get along with...(Kinda made the last part up...although I know that M$ says using NT (or based OSs) instead of Linux/Unix will keep costs down because of "easier operation and less training for workers", and that one of the things that harmed Unix was that there were too many competing forms of it...although I don't know if either are true...)
I think at this time she would befriend 95-tan, who's kinda like her desktop/PC counterpart at this point ;)
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11364/normal_Inu-T___NT_Mother_s-day-bone.jpg)
I think this would be NT-tan between version 4.0, SP4, (released in 1998) and currently. The OS turbulence of the early and mid-90s behind her, she's had several children (and NT based Windows OS), and has calmed down considerably not having to fight anymore.
Meanwhile, as for VMS-sama's role in NT-tan's life, I'm not even sure about the events, I'll post a little bit about the RL history of the OS's, and thoughts on OS-tan paralleils...
--First off, I think a "cloned" OS-tan is more-or-less a "daughter", but I believe that the term daughter denotes a close emotional relationship with the mother, whereas a clone has only a genetic relationship.
I mean to say, (the way I see it) 2k-tan was raised and trained by both her company and her mother, NT-tan. I think a clone wouldn't know of her heritage, be raised by, or ever have contact, with the OS-tan she was cloned from.
I guess to put it into RL context, I think a clone OS would be where a company steals, barrows, or takes inspiration, or however you want to phrase it, from another company's OS without their consent, knowledge or any imput from the company. Or when two OSs bear an unusually deep resemblance to eachother it their internal design.
Not that I'm saying M$ stole from DEC; That's just the way I could phrase it most coherently 0__-
--NT was *supposed* to be an extension to OS/2, but eventually became it's own OS. (as for OS-tans, this only makes the relation between NT-san and OS/2-san more confusing)
If NT-san was the "clone" of VMS, I don't think it's unresonable (I think we're a little to far to talk about what's unresonable) to think that somehow she also has some, weird, only-M$-could-purpotrait-this-kinda-unholy-technical-crime-against-nature genitic tie to OS/2, albeit less of a genetic connection than that of NT-san and VMS-sama. I mean, maybe her bloodline goes back to the two of them-
*shiver goes through very soul* ...did I just sugest NT-tan's OS/2 and VMS-sama's daughter...? O___o
*twitches*
--Cutler joined M$ in 1988 to work on a "more crash-proof" version of Windows.
--NT branches from VMS 5.4 (1990). NT also has ties to OS/2 1.1 (1988), and Windows 3.0 (1990), (though I'm guessing this is mostly in the GUI).
--VMS was ported to DEC Alpha in 1992, and renamed OpenVMS. One of the platforms NT was originally designed to run on was also Alpha. This could have made for a conflict between NT-tan and VMS-sama (or shall I just apply to be a soap opera writer)? Other possible conflict could also be between her and UnixWare-tan (cause I've heard UnixWare took a beating agaist NT)
--They say, on the surface, NT and VMS aren't incredibly similar; it's fairly deep in the OS's where their similarities lie. I don't think VMS-sama and NT-san would be physically identical, but may have many of the same attitude traits, just under different circumstances. EG, I think VMS-sama's personality would have been much like NT-tan, in her youth...I think it was since the birth of NT that she started to go radical...
And on a last note, can anyone tell me what this means?
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/thatsunnerving.jpg)
I found this while doing some research. It shows that Win1.0 is linked to an OS from the 70s called Alto...?
Also, would OS/2-tan be Windows 1.0-tan's daughter...?
Well-said! I never really considered those old versions of NT-tan (like the schoolgirl one) because they were mostly one-shot and dropped in favor of the lilac-haired one but you didn't forget those and incorporated them in her backstory! And with some of your beautiful fanart too! ;019
But as to the relation between NT-tan, Win 1.0-tan and OS/2-tan... Uhh... I'm stumped! x__x
Yo Bella-san! ^___^
First, glad to have you back! ^v^
*hugs*
Second,... I don't know how the hell I can give you a hug when I'm still technically space dust (see your art thread). ^.^'
Sorry 'bout that, btw, but you know how I get when you draw masterpieces, and those have "Masterpiece" written all over them! ^.^
When I've put myself back together again [Humpty Dumpty-style apparently), I promise a good reply there, but for now I'll help you out with your research here.... ^v^
Oh, and third,...
*squeals with delight*
Welcome to the Mac OSX rank!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
I too second Aurora-dono's recommendation,... not just about being cautious of the pervy OSX-kuns, but also to watch out for demented pigs who love to play with cat ears.... *v*
QuoteAnd somehow I can see where Slackware-tan would kinda berate some of her more "friendly" sisters for being "sell outs" XD
Maybe like Ubuntu-sama and certainly the Windows dopplegangers
Fufufu... be careful and not make her too much like puritanical TRSDOS-tan, or all her sisters will try to devise ways to get rid of her. ^.^
QuoteWoohoo! The Beatles
So, I guess the Windows-tans would be like punk rockers or something XD
...And the OSX-tans as Hip Hop/Reggaeton/Dance Hall artists, and you got yourself a deal. ^___^
QuotePsychological torture for VMS-sama using NT-tan? Did I say Unix-sama was great? Now she's INCREDIBLY AWESOME
And lest we not forgeteth The Book Of Unix-sama-ism, "The Goddess hath knowith everything, about every single OS that runnith and creepith on the world. For she is Root."
Yep, couldn't have found a better caretaker for UNIX-sama. ^__________^
*cries tears of joy*
Only the Mainframe-tans could stand a chance of challenging UNIX-sama's Goddesshood. On the other hand, UNIX-sama was a former Mainframe-tan herself for a while. `v'
QuoteAwwww....I've never thought of it that way...
(I just got an odd image of VMS-sama in a wetsuit, going out to dive with her sharks XD)
You got it! ^__~
Not quite typical, but I figure that kind of,... *cough cough*.... "hooby" could help add distinction to what would otherwise be the proverbial, cool, socially-awkward, silent-type character. ^^'
Course,... if in the distant future, mother and daughter (and granddaughters) do finally get together happily, there'll be a lot of explaining to do as to why Jaws and Jaws Jr. are living in grandma's tank. ^^;
I imagine a lot of the DEC-tans think that young pup "VMS-chan" has probably lost it (but oh well, at least they're not "peasant pets").
QuoteMust be something bladed, for sure
Now you're cookin' with fiya! ^v^
Could be an interesting foreshadowing of NT-san, who also likes kind and gentle, but could theoretically whoop 95-tan up a new one. ^^;
QuoteZOMG those are frickin great
I love the Dilbert one with the Anti-Microsoft missiles. ^.^
QuoteNow, go to the bathroom or get a snack before you start reading. Cause I'm about to talk your ear off with some....
Fufufu... I've been a bad influence, haven't I.... ^__________^;
QuoteRandom (this time NT, VMS and OS/2-tan) Conjuncture time!
Actually,... if you think about it,... we're always talking about them. ^^;
Quoteso it's probably logical to say that the pictures where she's an adult are "current depictions" while the girl is young NT-tan. Perhaps they could be seen as different NT versions (youngest NT-tan being 3.1, whereas the older "current" NT-tan would be NT 4.0, the last release marketed as NT before they moved onto 2000, XP, etc.)...I know Deja Vu got into a huge debacle for attemping to make a separate NT-tan for one of the releases, but I figure since these would all be the same character just at different ages, I'm pretty safe
Precisely. ^__^
And again, I reiterate that the major problem with Deja Vu was pure and simple plagiarism (and worse, cashing in on plagiarism), and in that respect it's no wonder people would be p'ed off (I would be too). `v'
The reality is that the varying appearances are all the result of different artistic license (case in point right there, the really YOUNG looking InuT), but hypothetically-speaking, it's far more fair to explain varying ages, hair, clothing, etc, as the character evolving throughout the ages (and wearing different clothes, etc).
QuoteI think a picture like the first, or these I drew,
You do realize that that's your first rendition of 3.1-sama! ^v^
Methinks I have to drag the Captain over by the ear in order to do proper worship.... -v-
Schoolgirl NT-tan is especially good-looking, and love the fact that you're helping popularize the rapier.
QuoteQuiet, thoughtful, caring (like most depictions of her are), yet not entirely sure of her background. Not that she cares much about that; to her she's just another Windows sister, even if she's "different" from them in a lot of ways (IE, she's more stable than her relatives). In lieu of a mother, I think she would look up to 3.1-sama; although, her admiration may be more about 3.1-sama's beauty and less about her character (since NT 3.5's GUI looked like Windows 3.1).
Wow,.. you know, it completely slipped my mind that 3.1-sama would take much affection to NT-san (and vice-versa). In reality, that sounds like a very realistic scenario, especially since "Father" would've loved NT-san to bits, and whatever Father loved 3.1-sama loved too.
Or at least that would be the case until 95-tan arrived.... ^^;
QuoteShe also shows great aptitude in swordsmanship (besides being pictured with bladed weapons on occasion, this a backward-reference to VMS-sama, whom also has talent with sword fighting); although an asset, it will mostly be her likable nature (and the Unixes self-destructing) that will help her conquer the server market.
Precisely! ^__^
Windows-tans are anything but charismatic, and even today can make a polished turd look like tasty pastry. ^.^
NT-san would've been no exception, and in fact her multi-lingual abilities would've made her even more desirable to businesses already fed up (and losing money) from so much [UNIX] war.
QuoteI think that this would be NT-tan between versions 3.5 and 3.51 or 4.0, a teenager, and between the years of 1994 and 95/96. She's helping her family and company take the server market; although, not as stable as many of the Unixes she's overtaken, people seem to like her a lot and find her easy to get along with...(Kinda made the last part up...although I know that M$ says using NT (or based OSs) instead of Linux/Unix will keep costs down because of "easier operation and less training for workers", and that one of the things that harmed Unix was that there were too many competing forms of it...although I don't know if either are true...)
You should also take into consideration that, especially in that era, UNIX boxes were (and still are, to a certain extent) EXPENSIVE!!! @o@
If a box running NT was, say $2,000 or $3,000 USD, a comparable UNIX box might've been $50,000USD. True, the latter was more reliable, can perform 100x more functions, and probably still works fine even to this day,... but when was the last time you saw a business that thought in the long-term? ^__^
Training also may have been a selling point, since GUI OSes are always perceived as being newer and better than black and white throwbacks to the 1960's (or sloppy, ugly 70's GUIs, like,... *gasp*... VMS-sama! @o@)
The reason why this is less and less a selling point today is because Linux servers CAN be a helluva lot cheaper than Windows boxes, AND CAN be easier to use and set up than most people give credit too. A memorable example is the inspiring story of the great guitar string maker
Sterling Ball:
http://www.news.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html
QuoteI think at this time she would befriend 95-tan, who's kinda like her desktop/PC counterpart at this point
Unfortunately, I'm tempted to add the additional friction that she kinda displaces 3.1-sama at this point. While Father may say he loves "all" of them, in reality he may be more present-minded than people are willing to admit and may simply adore whomever can secure his great empire. As 3.1-sama's natural successor, all resources are placed into keeping 95-tan and NT-tan paired as partners in training and in sorties, and relegating 3.1-sama (and MSDOS-chan) further and further into the sidelines having outlived their usefulness.
If according to my story, this would be a classic case of "what comes around goes around", but still you may think of a kinder and gentler theory for why 3.1-sama is as emotionless as she is now. '__'
Quote
I think this would be NT-tan between version 4.0, SP4, (released in 1998) and currently. The OS turbulence of the early and mid-90s behind her, she's had several children (and NT based Windows OS), and has calmed down considerably not having to fight anymore.
Agreed. ^__^
The M$ family structure also lightens up considerably in this age of Pax Microsoftica, so even though systems like ME-chan and the 98 sisters get unsupported, no one ever thinks of leaving them behind. Those barbaric days are over (or are they?), although a bit too late for some of the older members.... -___-
Quote--First off, I think a "cloned" OS-tan is more-or-less a "daughter", but I believe that the term daughter denotes a close emotional relationship with the mother, whereas a clone has only a genetic relationship.
I mean to say, (the way I see it) 2k-tan was raised and trained by both her company and her mother, NT-tan. I think a clone wouldn't know of her heritage, be raised by, or ever have contact, with the OS-tan she was cloned from.
True, but then you're as much a big soap opera writer as I am. ^__^
And you and I know that, while a clone does fail to do all that you mentioned, I imagine that (short of effective brainwashing) they're just as curious about 'biological parents" as real-life children who've never met their own either. Consider it a kind of tacit awe and respect for the woman who gifted you your first cells. So although they may not have lived with eachother or come in contact, certainly the potential exists for the "clone" to WANT a mother eventually (and perhaps vice-versa).
QuoteI guess to put it into RL context, I think a clone OS would be where a company steals, barrows, or takes inspiration, or however you want to phrase it, from another company's OS without their consent, knowledge or any imput from the company. Or when two OSs bear an unusually deep resemblance to eachother it their internal design.
I guess I do see what you mean, in that "clone" really should be reserved as a more "deragotory" term. The RL example I mentioned, for example, pertains more precisely to children born from invitro or from a surrogate mother, in order to live with non-biological parents, whereas clones are actual genetic copies of the mother in question. Unfortunately, not sure how we can call these children who are neither "daughters" nor "clones",... surely there's probably a medical term from them, even though that would be diving dangerously deep into simple symantics). ^^'
QuoteNot that I'm saying M$ stole from DEC; That's just the way I could phrase it most coherently 0__-
*sarcasm* Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah,... I'm sure they didn't. ^________________^;
Quote--NT was *supposed* to be an extension to OS/2, but eventually became it's own OS. (as for OS-tans, this only makes the relation between NT-san and OS/2-san more confusing)
More the reason why we could add even more turbulent soap opera style drama to their relationship. ^___^
QuoteIf NT-san was the "clone" of VMS, I don't think it's unresonable (I think we're a little to far to talk about what's unresonable) to think that somehow she also has some, weird, only-M$-could-purpotrait-this-kinda-unholy-technical-crime-against-nature genitic tie to OS/2, albeit less of a genetic connection than that of NT-san and VMS-sama. I mean, maybe her bloodline goes back to the two of them-
*shiver goes through very soul* ...did I just sugest NT-tan's OS/2 and VMS-sama's daughter...? O___o
Repeat after me..... -v-
V-A-N-D-R-E-A-D ^____^
Go watch that series,... revel as i did in the fact that the lead [full-grown] male character is shorter than ALL the female characters in the series... and place close attention to the part about Ohmas and Fahmas. ^^;
That might help shed some additional light in the matter (though it likely won't make you twitch any less). ^^;
On the other hand, you could take the more conservative route and imply that NT-san just inherited the training modules which were assigned to the young OS/2-tan (because the actual OS/2 code in Windows NT is fairly superfluous anyway, and vice versa). So all the weapons, courses, schooling and education that were originally created to bring OS/2-tan to greatness were taken from her and given to NT-tan instead.
I call it a cop out, but oh well,... we really can't be creating mothers and daughters and suspiciously father-like women EVERYWHERE now, can we,...? ^^;
Quote--VMS was ported to DEC Alpha in 1992, and renamed OpenVMS. One of the platforms NT was originally designed to run on was also Alpha. This could have made for a conflict between NT-tan and VMS-sama (or shall I just apply to be a soap opera writer)? Other possible conflict could also be between her and UnixWare-tan (cause I've heard UnixWare took a beating agaist NT)
I did mention before that VMS-san and NT-san would've been forced to fight. VMS-san doesn't lose, but she does get hurt psychologically as she knows the truth but is barred (by honor or a company mandate or both) to saying anything.
Quote--They say, on the surface, NT and VMS aren't incredibly similar; it's fairly deep in the OS's where their similarities lie. I don't think VMS-sama and NT-san would be physically identical, but may have many of the same attitude traits, just under different circumstances. EG, I think VMS-sama's personality would have been much like NT-tan, in her youth...I think it was since the birth of NT that she started to go radical...
Yep, see above. ^__^
I do object to them look physically dissimilar. I think you did a great job of making VMS-sama NT-like, but not quite so (just like any mother/daughter), and I'd rather you not change it. ^.^
QuoteAnd on a last note, can anyone tell me what this means?
Note that the "inspiration" line also connects to LisaOS. basically it jsut means that Bill and the gang were inspired by the old Xerox Alto to create their GUI,... and unsurprising fact given that's probably what college kids (and dropouts) would've used back in the 70's....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Alto
Judging by the monitor, I can see why they called it "Alto". I reckon such an OS-tan would be kinda tall (at least for the early 70's).
QuoteAlso, would OS/2-tan be Windows 1.0-tan's daughter...?
Unless you're referring to "step-daughter", no. ^___^
OS/2 is a new OS from the ground-up that probably has more in common with the DOS-tans than with 1.0-sama. On the other hand, you can probably get a lot of soap opera drama from OS/2-san's relationship with eComstation-chan. ^__~
QuoteI too second Aurora-dono's recommendation,... not just about being cautious of the pervy OSX-kuns, but also to watch out for demented pigs who love to play with cat ears.... *v*
Hah. I'm am Cheetah-san...I can deal with all sorts of perves XD
And if they get fresh, I can always call my good friend..Homeko-sama! I don't think you want me to do that, either...!
QuoteOnly the Mainframe-tans could stand a chance of challenging UNIX-sama's Goddesshood. On the other hand, UNIX-sama was a former Mainframe-tan herself for a while. `v'
Ahhhh....the Mainframes may be greatith, but Unix-sama is a Goddess Incarnate.
QuoteCourse,... if in the distant future, mother and daughter (and granddaughters) do finally get together happily, there'll be a lot of explaining to do as to why Jaws and Jaws Jr. are living in grandma's tank. ^^;
Especially poor Saba-chan O___O
QuoteThe reality is that the varying appearances are all the result of different artistic license (case in point right there, the really YOUNG looking InuT), but hypothetically-speaking, it's far more fair to explain varying ages, hair, clothing, etc, as the character evolving throughout the ages (and wearing different clothes, etc).
That's how I've always looked at it, if not just for my own sanity with all the different designs O_o
There are three known depictions of Leopard-tan for example, (and I remember you bringing this up), I'd like to think all three of them...The blue-haired Magical Girl, Aurora's (and my fave) teal-haired timetraveler, and the Nijura pink-haired charatcer...are all the same character, perhaps at different times...
QuoteCould be an interesting foreshadowing of NT-san, who also likes kind and gentle, but could theoretically whoop 95-tan up a new one. ^^;
Oh yes, she can handle herself...but I do have a funny image where a young "General" NT-san, dressed in her finest attire, about to lead her "troops" into some kind of OS battle...when....she falls flat on her face XD
Oh course, I think she would have become more "stable" over the years ;)
QuoteYou should also take into consideration that, especially in that era, UNIX boxes were (and still are, to a certain extent) EXPENSIVE!!! @o@
If a box running NT was, say $2,000 or $3,000 USD, a comparable UNIX box might've been $50,000USD. True, the latter was more reliable, can perform 100x more functions, and probably still works fine even to this day,... but when was the last time you saw a business that thought in the long-term? ^__^
That I didn't know O___O
QuoteThe reason why this is less and less a selling point today is because Linux servers CAN be a helluva lot cheaper than Windows boxes, AND CAN be easier to use and set up than most people give credit too. A memorable example is the inspiring story of the great guitar string maker Sterling Ball:
http://www.news.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html
That's a neat story! It's good to hear stuff that OSS is becoming more mainstream :D
QuoteUnfortunately, I'm tempted to add the additional friction that she kinda displaces 3.1-sama at this point. While Father may say he loves "all" of them, in reality he may be more present-minded than people are willing to admit and may simply adore whomever can secure his great empire. As 3.1-sama's natural successor, all resources are placed into keeping 95-tan and NT-tan paired as partners in training and in sorties, and relegating 3.1-sama (and MSDOS-chan) further and further into the sidelines having outlived their usefulness.
If according to my story, this would be a classic case of "what comes around goes around", but still you may think of a kinder and gentler theory for why 3.1-sama is as emotionless as she is now. '__'
That's sounds about right...
(^I'm a Drama queen!!!!)
QuoteAgreed. ^__^
The M$ family structure also lightens up considerably in this age of Pax Microsoftica, so even though systems like ME-chan and the 98 sisters get unsupported, no one ever thinks of leaving them behind. Those barbaric days are over (or are they?),
*suspicious cough* XP-SAMA *suspicious cough*
QuoteTrue, but then you're as much a big soap opera writer as I am. ^__^
And you and I know that, while a clone does fail to do all that you mentioned, I imagine that (short of effective brainwashing) they're just as curious about 'biological parents" as real-life children who've never met their own either. Consider it a kind of tacit awe and respect for the woman who gifted you your first cells. So although they may not have lived with eachother or come in contact, certainly the potential exists for the "clone" to WANT a mother eventually (and perhaps vice-versa).
I think that, especially being with M$, NT-san would be kept happy and in a state where she doesn't ask questions, and they don't breach the subject of
"bloodlines" ;)
I think, as I said before, VMS-sama would really want to be able to know her daughter...but this is pretty unrealistic for her : /
QuoteI guess I do see what you mean, in that "clone" really should be reserved as a more "deragotory" term. The RL example I mentioned, for example, pertains more precisely to children born from invitro or from a surrogate mother, in order to live with non-biological parents, whereas clones are actual genetic copies of the mother in question. Unfortunately, not sure how we can call these children who are neither "daughters" nor "clones",... surely there's probably a medical term from them, even though that would be diving dangerously deep into simple symantics). ^^'
I guess that's a better way than I put it....I guess what I was trying to say was, yes, I don't think that an OS clone would necessarily be a copy ;)
QuoteRepeat after me..... -v-
V-A-N-D-R-E-A-D ^____^
Go watch that series,... revel as i did in the fact that the lead [full-grown] male character is shorter than ALL the female characters in the series... and place close attention to the part about Ohmas and Fahmas. ^^
Only if you got watch Fullmetal Alchemist :P
*Oh, Wikipe-tan!*
*reads outline*
"Men and women are separated"....
*Puts 2 + 2 together*
O___O Methinks I know where this is going ;)
Okay, that makes a little sense...kinda...?
QuoteOn the other hand, you could take the more conservative route and imply that NT-san just inherited the training modules which were assigned to the young OS/2-tan (because the actual OS/2 code in Windows NT is fairly superfluous anyway, and vice versa). So all the weapons, courses, schooling and education that were originally created to bring OS/2-tan to greatness were taken from her and given to NT-tan instead.
I call it a cop out, but oh well,... we really can't be creating mothers and daughters and suspiciously father-like women EVERYWHERE now, can we,...? ^^;
*scary whispery voice*
But this is M$ we're talking about...they dabble in the kind of Technical Dark Arts which us mere mortals can only imagine in our darkest nightmares...Heed me well, they hatch the sort of diabolical schemes that makes Dr. Frankenstein's monster look like a kid's school project!
*ticks*
*twitches*
*VMS-sama stares at me*
What can I say? She takes after her
mother!*knife whizzes by head*
QuoteI did mention before that VMS-san and NT-san would've been forced to fight. VMS-san doesn't lose, but she does get hurt psychologically as she knows the truth but is barred (by honor or a company mandate or both) to saying anything.
That sound about right.
QuoteYep, see above. ^__^
I do object to them look physically dissimilar. I think you did a great job of making VMS-sama NT-like, but not quite so (just like any mother/daughter), and I'd rather you not change it. ^.^
Yeah, I'm keeping VMS-sama as she is. Just, I don't want them to be indentical ;)
QuoteNote that the "inspiration" line also connects to LisaOS. basically it jsut means that Bill and the gang were inspired by the old Xerox Alto to create their GUI,... and unsurprising fact given that's probably what college kids (and dropouts) would've used back in the 70's....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Alto
Judging by the monitor, I can see why they called it "Alto". I reckon such an OS-tan would be kinda tall (at least for the early 70's).
Okay...crime against nature averted...
QuoteOS/2 is a new OS from the ground-up that probably has more in common with the DOS-tans than with 1.0-sama. On the other hand, you can probably get a lot of soap opera drama from OS/2-san's relationship with eComstation-chan. ^__~
Ahhhh, okay.
Last stop!! ^V^
QuoteHah. I'm am Cheetah-san...I can deal with all sorts of perves XD
And if they get fresh, I can always call my good friend..Homeko-sama! I don't think you want me to do that, either...!
Awwwwww.... why couldn't you call Pu-chan instead?
[lecherously]
Pu-chan can punish me anyday! ^___^QuoteAhhhh....the Mainframes may be greatith, but Unix-sama is a Goddess Incarnate.
Now now, let's not get carried away here. Mainframe-tans are pretty darn godly too, and very
HUGE. @__@
You did read my description of the Mainframe Guild, no? ^^;
QuoteEspecially poor Saba-chan O___O
HAHA!!! That's right, didn't think of that! ^v^
Plus in Gus-san's thread, we now have an anthromorphic whale after her too. ^.^
QuoteThat's how I've always looked at it, if not just for my own sanity with all the different designs O_o
There are three known depictions of Leopard-tan for example, (and I remember you bringing this up), I'd like to think all three of them...The blue-haired Magical Girl, Aurora's (and my fave) teal-haired timetraveler, and the Nijura pink-haired charatcer...are all the same character, perhaps at different times...
If you were cookin' with "FIYA" before, now you be cookin' with Napalm! ^__^
You hit it right on the spot I've been trying to hammer for months! ^v^
*awards Bella-san*
QuoteThat I didn't know O___O
QuoteThat's a neat story! It's good to hear stuff that OSS is becoming more mainstream
The article itself is a little old, but according to my musician friend, Sterling Ball is still a very strong and successful company, AND is still Linux-based. ^___^
The companies that adopt this do realize that a lot of that "Total Cost of Ownership" excuse is all BS.
1) Linux doesn't need sophisticated or specialized hardware to run on -- in fact, it can probably operate on whatever your business uses now.
2) And even if you did want to invest in some super server, the previous benefits of a UNIX-based system are still inherited, with the added benefit that the hardware is still cheaper.
3) You need only buy one copy of [say] RedHat Linux and then install that copy throughout the rest of your company. If you're talking 5,000 computers, that's an immediate savings of 4,999 less copies of the OS (or rather the "license", if you're talking in M$ terms). Oh yeah, and all the equivalent office products in Linux would be free. ^__^
4) A lot of the culture-shock associated with Windows is mainly due to the company being too dependent on M$ products to begin with (e.g., Word, Excel). Otherwise, I myself deal with tons of people who still struggle to understand the concept of "Copy" and "Paste", and whether you give them Microsoft Office or Open Office makes no difference to them.
5) Even if training is still required, you've already saved enough money to train your IT specialists to use Linux (and maybe some of your employees). Thanks to the more open system, they need only learn it once, and then they can carry themselves through from there (assuming they're GOOD IT specialists to begin with). Eventually you'll be able to rely less on [say] RedHat's service specialists, and perhaps even attempt to brave your own in-house solutions (customized distros, programs, security, etc.)
QuoteI think that, especially being with M$, NT-san would be kept happy and in a state where she doesn't ask questions, and they don't breach the subject of
"bloodlines"
I think, as I said before, VMS-sama would really want to be able to know her daughter...but this is pretty unrealistic for her : /
Yeah,... all of a sudden, the OS world is beginning to look more and more harsh. 'v'
Then again,... so is the RL equivalent. ^.^;
QuoteOnly if you got watch Fullmetal Alchemist :P
*Oh, Wikipe-tan!*
*reads outline*
"Men and women are separated"....
*Puts 2 + 2 together*
O___O Methinks I know where this is going
Okay, that makes a little sense...kinda...?
It's a bit more graphic than that, but yeah sorta. ^__^
Anyway, I'd hate to have you watch Vandread (since in retrospect it wasn't really that good a series,... unless you're a Star Trek Voyager fan), but I reckon I will have to watch Fullmetal Alchemist eventually. Just to find out what the heck you're all talkin' about. ^^'
Quote*scary whispery voice*
But this is M$ we're talking about...they dabble in the kind of Technical Dark Arts which us mere mortals can only imagine in our darkest nightmares...Heed me well, they hatch the sort of diabolical schemes that makes Dr. Frankenstein's monster look like a kid's school project!
*ticks*
*twitches*
*VMS-sama stares at me*
What can I say? She takes after her mother!
*knife whizzes by head*
Well,... in fairness to you're conspiracies,... ME-chan is technically one of those Franken-tans.
After all,... a fusion of old Windows and the NT-base.... instant abomination! [no wonder it crashes a lot...] @___@
QuoteYeah, I'm keeping VMS-sama as she is. Just, I don't want them to be indentical
Well there's an easy solution. ^__^
Just have her wear a mask.
I originally planned to have her wear a mask when in public, just so no one will be able to recognize her. (reasons are four-fold: 1) to avoid anyone spotting any similarities to NT-san, 2) to hide her shame of working with HP, 3) to serve as a convenient breathing apparatus for when she swims with her sharkies, and 4) just to look like the cool leader of the CIOST.
In fact, referring to my original inspiration for VMS (Freesia Yagyu), I kinda imagine that a fight between her and her younger/nimbler daughter would kinda look something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcTJqRqjlmQ
Fufufu.... ^.^
QuoteAwwwwww.... why couldn't you call Pu-chan instead?
[lecherously] Pu-chan can punish me anyday! ^___^
Cause we weirdos stick together ;006 J/K
QuoteNow now, let's not get carried away here. Mainframe-tans are pretty darn godly too, and very HUGE. @__@
You did read my description of the Mainframe Guild, no? ^^;
Oh yes, but how many Linuxes, BSDs, OS Xs and other Nixes hath the mainframes providith us?
QuoteHAHA!!! That's right, didn't think of that! ^v^
Plus in Gus-san's thread, we now have an anthromorphic whale after her too. ^.^
*starts whistling "Under the Sea"...*
QuoteIf you were cookin' with "FIYA" before, now you be cookin' with Napalm! ^__^
You hit it right on the spot I've been trying to hammer for months! ^v^
*awards Bella-san*
That's the convenient thing about Leopard-chan...no rendition left behind XD
QuoteIt's a bit more graphic than that, but yeah sorta. ^__^
Anyway, I'd hate to have you watch Vandread (since in retrospect it wasn't really that good a series,... unless you're a Star Trek Voyager fan), but I reckon I will have to watch Fullmetal Alchemist eventually. Just to find out what the heck you're all talkin' about. ^^'
*Uh oh...*
*tick*
*tick*
*twitch*
I gotta get that *tick* looked at O__o
Yes, go watch FMA :D It's only graphic if you dislike blood, some gore, man-monsters, crazed eating machines and the occasional blasphemer...
QuoteWell,... in fairness to you're conspiracies,... ME-chan is technically one of those Franken-tans.
After all,... a fusion of old Windows and the NT-base.... instant abomination! [no wonder it crashes a lot...] @___@
Hmmm...I always though ME was pure 9x Windows...
I know XP has some ME features included, but is almost all NT....THANK GOD!!!!
QuoteWell there's an easy solution. ^__^
Just have her wear a mask.
I originally planned to have her wear a mask when in public, just so no one will be able to recognize her. (reasons are four-fold: 1) to avoid anyone spotting any similarities to NT-san, 2) to hide her shame of working with HP, 3) to serve as a convenient breathing apparatus for when she swims with her sharkies, and 4) just to look like the cool leader of the CIOST.
Ahaha! We have come back to V for VMS, eh?
QuoteIn fact, referring to my original inspiration for VMS (Freesia Yagyu), I kinda imagine that a fight between her and her younger/nimbler daughter would kinda look something like this:
....I supposed that dude with the glasses is Dave Cutler....?
Even though I think VMS-sama would hate NT-san on every conscious level, I still see her as sorta not giving her all when battling NT-san, as if she's afraid to injure who is in all likelihood the only carrier of her bloodline...NT, of course, has no attachment to this VMS-sama and would, at least try, to fight with as much gusto as she can...
*Somewhere, a kingdom of melodrama is missing their Queen*
In case you're starting to tire of hashing over details of VMS and co., I've been wondering about a new group...the Unix successors! Like Plan 9 and Inferno.
QuoteOh yes, but how many Linuxes, BSDs, OS Xs and other Nixes hath the mainframes providith us?
Um,.... well technically all of them.... '___'
Information, transport, and lots of other daily essentials won't flow without supercomputers. ^_____^'
Oh, and there's Z/OS-sama,... currently THE - MOST - POWERFUL OS-tan (at least as far as gross power is concerned), who shares her roots with both MVS and UNIX, and is also well versed in the Linux craft (Linux on Z/Series).
She sounds cool beyond belief, and certainly has the power, size and war goddess attire to command respect. Unfortunately she's also horrifically arrogant, spartan to a fault and exceedingly boring, so you'd likely never see her at all (outside of tormenting other Mainframe-tans).
QuoteYes, go watch FMA It's only graphic if you dislike blood, some gore, man-monsters, crazed eating machines and the occasional blasphemer...
Hey now,... if I can get through Hellsing and Elfen Lied (and Excel Saga for crazy eating), I can get through anything. Besides, my only concern with any Anime is that there be a cute and/or cool female character that I can watch. ^___^
Hellsing without Seras would be boring. -__-
Stuff like Fist[ing] the North Star is just plain torture for C-chan. T__T'
Quote....I supposed that dude with the glasses is Dave Cutler....?
Gaaah? TvT'
................Um,.... ah.... no.... ^__^'
QuoteEven though I think VMS-sama would hate NT-san on every conscious level, I still see her as sorta not giving her all when battling NT-san, as if she's afraid to injure who is in all likelihood the only carrier of her bloodline...NT, of course, has no attachment to this VMS-sama and would, at least try, to fight with as much gusto as she can...
So now actual comments about that awesome fight scene? Very well choreographed (if a little too far-fetched, but then it is an Action Comedy series).... ^^;
In any event, the point is two-fold:
1) They'd look really cool fighting (although only in VMS-sama's younger days would she have used the lighter DEC sword -- now she uses that nasty-looking cleaver, although she's still very fast with it).
2) VMS-sama COULD look cool with that kind of half-mask on (hell as I would suggest giving her a full-faced one... ^__^).
So what says the Bella one? ^.^
QuoteIn case you're starting to tire of hashing over details of VMS and co., I've been wondering about a new group...the Unix successors! Like Plan 9 and Inferno.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah,.... The User Space Gang. ^___^
I had nearly forgotten about those adorable renegades. ^v^
I could talk about them, but I am really dying to draw them all instead first. ^.^
How about giving me two days or so, and I'll see if I can devise some quick micro-sketches to better explain my points (like I did with UNIX-sama). ^__^
Even though Plan 9-tan is the leader, it's really Inferno-chan and FreeBSD-san that steal the spotlight with their overly-extroverted personalities. ^v^
Much fun awaits you here -- perhaps too much for a young lass such as yourself seeking drama and melancholy! ¯v¯
QuoteUm,.... well technically all of them.... '___'
Information, transport, and lots of other daily essentials won't flow without supercomputers. ^_____^'
Oh, and there's Z/OS-sama,... currently THE - MOST - POWERFUL OS-tan (at least as far as gross power is concerned), who shares her roots with both MVS and UNIX, and is also well versed in the Linux craft (Linux on Z/Series)
I stand corrected ;)
QuoteShe sounds cool beyond belief, and certainly has the power, size and war goddess attire to command respect. Unfortunately she's also horrifically arrogant, spartan to a fault and exceedingly boring, so you'd likely never see her at all (outside of tormenting other Mainframe-tans).
Ahhha! That's why I'm no big fan XD
QuoteBesides, my only concern with any Anime is that there be a cute and/or cool female character that I can watch. ^___^
That's how I kinda am. I hate shows (anime or not) with no powerful female lead characters...
QuoteSo now actual comments about that awesome fight scene? Very well choreographed (if a little too far-fetched, but then it is an Action Comedy series).... ^^;
I thought that it was really great! Like you said, it was a bit out there...
Quote1) They'd look really cool fighting (although only in VMS-sama's younger days would she have used the lighter DEC sword -- now she uses that nasty-looking cleaver, although she's still very fast with it).
2) VMS-sama COULD look cool with that kind of half-mask on (hell as I would suggest giving her a full-faced one... ^__^).
So what says the Bella one? ^.^
I think it's a great idea! As for the full face mask, I would kinda like some of her face to be showing...
QuoteI could talk about them, but I am really dying to draw them all instead first. ^.^
How about giving me two days or so, and I'll see if I can devise some quick micro-sketches to better explain my points (like I did with UNIX-sama). ^__^
I actually did a concept sketch for Inferno-tan, I'll have to post that :)
QuoteMuch fun awaits you here -- perhaps too much for a young lass such as yourself seeking drama and melancholy! ¯v¯
Oh, I also do fun! I'm multi-talented XD
QuoteI think it's a great idea! As for the full face mask, I would kinda like some of her face to be showing...
Well yeah, me too. A full face mask would be a waste on someone of her looks, wouldn't it? ^^;
QuoteI actually did a concept sketch for Inferno-tan, I'll have to post that
Ah great! That'll help me a lot since typical C-chan silliness assumed that I could get the whole cast drawn within a few hours, when I've only barely managed to whip out a half-sketched FreeBSD-tan. ^^;
Bottom line is: Inferno-chan should be very young and very cute, yet very powerful and yet very naive. ^^;
I kinda always pictured her as a Piyoko type (from the Di Gi Charat series).
Also figured I'd drop in a quick status update on my rendition of FreeBSD-tan -- as you can see, only the head and hair is halfway done:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/FreeBSD_alpha.png)
Could use some fashion ideas. ^^
The burgundy body suit I only added so that she wouldn't look nude. ^^;
Originally opted for a trident, but switched to an energy flail instead (which can be hardened into a trident, but she usually prefers the flexibility of its current form).
Will talk a little more about her later. ^^
Even if it is only half-sketched, that FreeBSD-tan looks fantastic!
As for fashion ideas, I don't really know! I'm not too good at designing outfits. I thought that adding green+white shoes would be good because the BSD devil mascot wears some. And wearing spiked bracelets as a reference to the yellow spiky-haired BSD-tan.
Oh nononono, my dear Aurora-dono. ^___^
The yellow spiky-haired BSD-tan is OpenBSD -- in other words, FreeBSD-tan's sister. She'll be drawn separately, along with NetBSD -- they make something of a Tantalizing Trio.... ^>^
(Note: PC-BSD and Desktop-BSD don't live with them, so they're not included... -v-)
In any event, thank you Aurora-dono. ^___^
I have to fix her up soon, though, as she still lacks the level of "moe" I'm aiming for.
D'OH! STUPID ME! I forgot that! >__<
QuoteCould use some fashion ideas. ^^
The burgundy body suit I only added so that she wouldn't look nude. ^^;
Originally opted for a trident, but switched to an energy flail instead (which can be hardened into a trident, but she usually prefers the flexibility of its current form).
Will talk a little more about her later. ^^
I actually always envisioned her (or I should say a BSD-tan) wearing a scarlet colored leather body suit ;) With high-heeled boots, too...or maybe I'm just thinking of the Devilettes that dress up at BSD promotional events XD
I like her energy stream/trident, too :D
Anyhow, here's my idea for Inferno-chan (and a dressed-up Plan 9-san, too):
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/209.jpg)
I drew her as older that you explained...maybe a teenager or something...and I kinda see her with dark, brownish-red hair and light eyes (blue or gray)...
QuoteOh nononono, my dear Aurora-dono. ^___^
The yellow spiky-haired BSD-tan is OpenBSD -- in other words, FreeBSD-tan's sister. She'll be drawn separately, along with NetBSD -- they make something of a Tantalizing Trio.... ^>^
Good news...someone's done OpenBSD for you!
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/1184894518714.jpg)
Quote(Note: PC-BSD and Desktop-BSD don't live with them, so they're not included... -v-)
Don't tell me they're Unix/Linux defectors ;)
QuoteI actually always envisioned her (or I should say a BSD-tan) wearing a scarlet colored leather body suit With high-heeled boots, too...or maybe I'm just thinking of the Devilettes that dress up at BSD promotional events XD
Yeah, that's also how Kami-Tux drew her FreeBSD. Might have to end up doing the same since I have zero ideas,... w
Well,... guess I'll need to hit the fashion web pages again.... -.-'
*masculinity decreases 25 point*
QuoteI like her energy stream/trident, too
Thank you,... yeah, that was a last minute replacement of a rather bland-looking trident. ^^
OpenBSD-tan has her nightsticks (which actually conceal bladed ends), whereas NetBSD-tan will be the only one wielding a conventional trident (well okay, not quite "conventional").
Oh, and almost forgot DragonflyBSD-tan, who likes to tag along with the group just for the heck of it (even though she's easily outclassed by the Tantalizing Trio). Her trident is particularly fancy. ^^
QuoteI drew her as older that you explained...maybe a teenager or something...and I kinda see her with dark, brownish-red hair and light eyes (blue or gray)..
*GASP* No? OvO
Bella-san drawing teens and young adults?! I've never seen this before! Surely the end is nigh!! O.O
Haha! Sorry, just pulling your tail (makes sense since you're a Cheetah). ^__^'
In fairness, the majority of the stories I planned for the UserSpace Gang take place quite a while ago, so it's only natural that Inferno-chan grows up. Course, now that means she's a lot smarter and can probably begin throwing her weight around. ¯v¯
I do have to disagree on the color scheme -- when you think inferno, surely you must think flames, fire, lava and the like. Consider brighter, more vibrant colors (say orange or yellow eyes). Cast away thy worldly bounds, and be bold,... striking... death-defying! ^V^
Oh, and Plan 9 needs her bunny ears. ^.^
I'd recommend curving them downwards, since I think it would accentuate her mature look this way (pointing them upward Mikuru style is too cutesy for a character like her). @v@
QuoteGood news...someone's done OpenBSD for you!
Uh,... ano,.... hai..... yeah,.... I kinda.... knew about Puffy-san ages ago.... ¬¬
Just needs more moe, so I'll see what I cando. ^^;
QuoteDon't tell me they're Unix/Linux defectors
Au contraire, PC-BSD-tan and DesktopBSD-tan are amazingly close to the Linuces, enough to grate the ears of many a conservative UNIX-tan. T__T
It's the tantatlizing trio that are technically the rebels (or the loyalists, depending on who's side you take). ^^'
I should probably note that there is, in fact, an original BSD-tan (a Mamma BSD) from the 1980's, although I've barely given the Trio any thought, let alone the older BSD-sama. ^^'
Added after 4 hours 31 minutes: Okay! Greatly overhauled FreeBSD-tan beta ready!!!!! ^v^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/FreeBSD_beta.png)
It looks classy, but it's still all leather. ^.^
Could use some suggestions about the shoes though,... tried to be cute and appease all parties, but probably ended up making a mess of things. ^.^;
Also, can't believe I forgot her tail before. ^_________^'
QuoteI do have to disagree on the color scheme -- when you think inferno, surely you must think flames, fire, lava and the like. Consider brighter, more vibrant colors (say orange or yellow eyes). Cast away thy worldly bounds, and be bold,... striking... death-defying! ^V^
Yeah I do think of fire ;)
QuoteOh, and Plan 9 needs her bunny ears. ^.^
I'd recommend curving them downwards, since I think it would accentuate her mature look this way (pointing them upward Mikuru style is too cutesy for a character like her). @v@
That's why I left them out, at least for the time being...they seemed a bit to...Mikuru-ish XD
QuoteAu contraire, PC-BSD-tan and DesktopBSD-tan are amazingly close to the Linuces, enough to grate the ears of many a conservative UNIX-tan. T__T
Close to the Linux-tans? But I thought....erm...BSD and Linux fans kinda...disagreed with each other in the friendliest of ways...?
QuoteIt looks classy, but it's still all leather. ^.^
Could use some suggestions about the shoes though,... tried to be cute and appease all parties, but probably ended up making a mess of things. ^.^;
Also, can't believe I forgot her tail before. ^_________^'
I like her with the brownish hair...
QuoteYeah I do think of fire
GAH! XvX
*C-chan collapses*
And after I spent all that time typing up that dramatic monologue, I was expecting an equal dramatic bold, striking, death-defying comeback.....
Bella-san,... how boring.... ;___;
[dramatically] YOU MUST THINK OF A RAGING VOLCANIC INFERNO BURSTING STRAIGHT OUT OF THE DEPTHS OF HELL AND DAMNATION!!!!!!!!! ^V^
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...With cute frills. ^__^
QuoteThat's why I left them out, at least for the time being...they seemed a bit to...Mikuru-ish XD
[Ears turned down] + [smaller than the ones I'm about to show] = [everything alright with the world]. ^__^
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/a/a2/275px-Mint_Blancmanche.jpg)
My preconcept sketch also has ears like that. Trust me, it's Mikuru-proof. ^.^
Besides, not sure what your idea of her personality is, but for my original idea she's basically the antithesis of Mikuru. No way could you get the two confused. ^_____^
(more on that later)
QuoteClose to the Linux-tans? But I thought....erm...BSD and Linux fans kinda...disagreed with each other in the friendliest of ways...?
Not nearly as much as the Slackware and the Linspires disagree with one another. This is the *Nix world, after all,... their kids learn to disagree with one another before they learn to walk or talk. ^^'
Both PC-BSD and DesktopBSD go to greater lengths to make their systems user-friendly. Right down to creating a convenient packaging system! [*GASP* Horrors! @o@]
So I imagine those two hang around with the more liberal-minded crowd, to gain new ideas, try out cutting-edge, and make young new friends (and not the old stuffy types)....
(http://folk.uio.no/hpv/linuxtoons/dilbert-unix.png)
QuoteI like her with the brownish hair...
Thank you, Bella-san. ^_____^
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Um,... anything else,... maybe fashionable..... you could recommend? ^^;
If not, I'll go ahead and switch to the next girl(s) since I don't have time to finish FreeB-chan up. -v-
Probably just will do Open, Net and Dragonfly,... you already covered Inferno and Plan B is a weaker mirror copy of Plan 9 anyway. -v-
QuoteBella-san,... how boring.... ;___;
[dramatically] YOU MUST THINK OF A RAGING VOLCANIC INFERNO BURSTING STRAIGHT OUT OF THE DEPTHS OF HELL AND DAMNATION!!!!!!!!! ^V^
Yes.
Prone, I am to boring replies.
*stares*
QuoteBesides, not sure what your idea of her personality is, but for my original idea she's basically the antithesis of Mikuru. No way could you get the two confused. ^_____^
(more on that later)
I see her as being incredibly intelligent but often too quirky and unusual for most people to take a liking to her. Although smart, I don't think she'd be very well-spoken (this could be a joke referring to Plan 9 from Outer Space's corny dialogue).
QuoteUm,... anything else,... maybe fashionable..... you could recommend? ^^;
If not, I'll go ahead and switch to the next girl(s) since I don't have time to finish FreeB-chan up. -v-
Probably just will do Open, Net and Dragonfly,... you already covered Inferno and Plan B is a weaker mirror copy of Plan 9 anyway. -v-
Maybe make her shoes a little more interesting...I was thinking she'd look neat with kinda strapy high-heel boots, but I dunno if that'd fit her attitude ;)
QuoteYes.
Prone, I am to boring replies.
*stares*
...................... GAAAAAAAH!! XvX
*C-chan collapses*
QuoteI see her as being incredibly intelligent but often too quirky and unusual for most people to take a liking to her. Although smart, I don't think she'd be very well-spoken (this could be a joke referring to Plan 9 from Outer Space's corny dialogue).
*snaps hoof in approval* Right on! ^__~
A lot of my references to her derive from Plan 9 from Outer Space as well, including the saucer she rides in and her love for necromancy (why do aliens need to raise the dead to conquer the Earth or whatever it is that they were doing in the movie?). ^___________^;
I recall the aliens also spoke rather pompously, although definitely with not much of a lesser degree of corniness than the humans. ^^;
QuoteMaybe make her shoes a little more interesting...I was thinking she'd look neat with kinda strapy high-heel boots, but I dunno if that'd fit her attitude
Will do! ^v^
Wasn't terribly inspired with her shoes, so was originally planning on not putting anything, but added that in the last second. I'm the last person to rely on for hip modern fashion, but I'll see what you mean. ^^;
*takes down notes*
Still debating on keeping them green or switching to red.
Also may have to rework her clothing yet again -- need about 40% more sass. ^.^
Added after 1 minutes: Course, not sure if I can guarantee quick turnaround, so why don't I just start giving you details.... -v-
*starts typing*
Added after 38 minutes: FreeBSD-tan is the second eldest of the open sourced BSD-tans., but behaves as something of a de facto leader. She's fun-loving, energetic, witty and spontaneous, and loves going first at everything be it sports competitions, talking in public, singing, or making passes (she recognizes no risk in making a fool of herself). She gets her work done timely and efficiently (procrastination is unknown to her as well), but exudes a very unprofessional, laid-back, and almost childlike quality doing so that gives people the impression that she's unambitious and irresponsible.
However, she is not stupid -- far from it, she could be considered a closeted genius, smarter even than Plan 9-tan herself! That she opts to mask it so well has a lot to do with her notion of Freedom, as being able to choose the life one wants rather than to live someone else's ideal of what life should be.
Only in tight situations, or in combat, can one finally come to notice that she strangely makes few if any mistakes, and pops in a brilliant (albeit loosely-worded) piece of analysis. An opponent naive enough to think he's fighting a scantily-clad boob will quickly find himself suspended over a fiery pit,... which strangely looks like a BBQ pit.
Oh right, should also note that FreeBSD is a glutton and will eat virtually anything (the fact that she can literally burn fat and carbs helps a lot too). She is supposed to be accompanied by her personal entourage of Daemon-chans (yes, the original mascots), but after a couple of... "incidents",... most of them prefer to stick around the equally-destructive but uncannabilistc Inferno-chan. She usually gets into trouble trying to make dinner out of OpenBSD-tan's pet pufferfish, or Plan 9-tan's headcrabs (zombie making critters which she launches randomly across the world to spawn more minions -- or at least in theory, since the launch canisters always end up empty for some odd reason....).
As you know, she uses an energy flail as a weapon now, although she can use a trident just as effectively. She speaks little of her family, but while she COULD be a contender for the UNIX throne, she appears almost disinterested in it (or in participation in all the backstabbing). Nor is she as critical of the Linux-tans as her other sisters (OpenBSD-tan, in particular, is highly competitive with them), even though she doesn't hold back at all when she's forced to fight one. She's more than content to live free ["or die!" your state's motto, right?] and let the rest of the world run its course. ^^
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On the other hand, she's still a Unix-tan at heart, and is certainly adept at harboring secrets disguised as full transparency. She,... more than anyone,... loves a good bit of mischief every now and then... `v'
Just something I've been wondering...
Is Nt-4.0-Sp6-Tan an upgrade of the original NT, or a completely different Os-tan?
By wich I mean, could she be considered Inu-T's little sister being the newest version and all?
Something else I noticed..all the Deja-vu Os-tans have their version on them somewhere (Notice 2k has this little gold pin on her left arm.
Given we do have to draw these at one point or another, I prefer not to branch out TOO much as far as version numbers go. Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and 2.5 are inevitable since someone already thought of them, but if we can help stifle the tide of additional version offshoots, more power for us. ^.^
Better to explain them as simple older versions of preexisting OS-tans (like you say, just an older Inu-T). ^__^
Since we're not fond of willful plagiarists, though, most of us tend not to support any of Deja Vu's designs or concepts. The artwork is lush and colorful, I'll give you that, and under different circumstances their NT SP6-tan could've been a very welcomed addition.
But as they like to say up north, "If you do the Crime, you gotta do the Time", and in this case it's actually for people who deserve it. ^^'
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Okay! Great news!!! ^v^
A lady friend of mine,... better versed in the ways of contemporary fashion -- helped me with the boots and other visual enhancements. I do owe her big-time, since the cuteness level has been enhanced 30%, while paradoxically adding a curious amount of maturity. ^__^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/FreeBSD_chi.png)
The boots are black but are in fact very dark green -- when properly shaded/lighted, it will give off very cool green highlights. ^.^
Hopefully the gal is fitting her description more and more. ^__^
Great job with Free BSD-tan's personality, backstory and appearance!
Now that I'm understanding more about the User Space Gang, I know I'm really gonna like them! :D
I like her so far! The boots are looking nice, too ;010
Quote*snaps hoof in approval* Right on! ^__~
A lot of my references to her derive from Plan 9 from Outer Space as well, including the saucer she rides in and her love for necromancy (why do aliens need to raise the dead to conquer the Earth or whatever it is that they were doing in the movie?). ^___________^;
I recall the aliens also spoke rather pompously, although definitely with not much of a lesser degree of corniness than the humans. ^^;
Perfect!
QuoteOh right, should also note that FreeBSD is a glutton and will eat virtually anything (the fact that she can literally burn fat and carbs helps a lot too). She is supposed to be accompanied by her personal entourage of Daemon-chans (yes, the original mascots), but after a couple of... "incidents",... most of them prefer to stick around the equally-destructive but uncannabilistc Inferno-chan. She usually gets into trouble trying to make dinner out of OpenBSD-tan's pet pufferfish, or Plan 9-tan's headcrabs (zombie making critters which she launches randomly across the world to spawn more minions -- or at least in theory, since the launch canisters always end up empty for some odd reason....).
Erm...geez...ehhhh...Incidents with Daemon-chans? Cannibalistic?
*thinks*
*puts 2-+-2 together*
*tick*
*twitch*
Makes me think she'd get along perfectly (at least in eating contests!) with XP-sama!
Also...
Pufferfish...
Headcrabs...
*continues ticking*
QuoteAs you know, she uses an energy flail as a weapon now, although she can use a trident just as effectively. She speaks little of her family, but while she COULD be a contender for the UNIX throne, she appears almost disinterested in it (or in participation in all the backstabbing). Nor is she as critical of the Linux-tans as her other sisters (OpenBSD-tan, in particular, is highly competitive with them), even though she doesn't hold back at all when she's forced to fight one. She's more than content to live free ["or die!" your state's motto, right?] and let the rest of the world run its course. ^^
After reading that last part, I can see why she's no big loss to the Unix/Linux families...for heaven's sake, she probably would have eaten Minix-sensei and had DamnSmallLinux-chan for dessert!
J/K!
I'm really liking this so far! ;010
QuoteGiven we do have to draw these at one point or another, I prefer not to branch out TOO much as far as version numbers go. Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and 2.5 are inevitable since someone already thought of them, but if we can help stifle the tide of additional version offshoots, more power for us. ^.^
Better to explain them as simple older versions of preexisting OS-tans (like you say, just an older Inu-T). ^__^
Agreed!
I, too, like to embrace different renditions of one OS-tan, but I usually explain it as different ages...
Quote from: "C-Chan"
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/a/a2/275px-Mint_Blancmanche.jpg)
MEEP!!
*has to hold onto his head to keep from having a cuteness based explosion.*
*Continues staring*
Sorry, I was distracted.
Now, back on topic.
Nice FreeBSD C-Chan!
We always need more Unixes.
Keep up the good work. ;010
QuoteNice FreeBSD C-Chan!
We always need more Unixes.
Keep up the good work.
Woohoo! ;010
Sorry Bella-san,... Kitsune-san....
This was the last stop in my OS-tan Discussion Forum Tour, and I'm outta time. Will have to stop by later to finish up. ^.^
Also,...
*sniff sniff*
I'm afraid I squandered a bit of time to finish FreeB-chan, and I don't think I can go on any further,... or at least not until November. ;___;
Same goes for Open and Net, so I'll try to compensate with good descriptions. If I tried drawing crappy sketches, it'll just defeat the purpose.... -.-
*sniff sniff*
I don't want to impose, but I need a big favor Bella-san,... ;__;
Please accept FreeB-chan's SVG and complete it if you'd like. Feel free to doll her up more, fix any of my odd color choices, add her to a pictures, etc.
And that goes for anyone else who wants to try their hand at Inkscape editing (I'd ask Aurora, but she's already doing something for me). Like the system itself, she's now officially Open-Sourced, and ready to make you smile or make you study. ^__^
Thank you all.... -v-
*trots off thread in a hurry*
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I'm not doing much artistically right now, so I might work on the pic a bit :D
I might make her hair a little redder, and detail her dress some...
Well,... still sleep-deprived, but still have enough energy left to reply to unresponded stuff. More descriptions still pending, so let me buy more rainchecks... ^.^
*tosses out half-a-billion C-chan points*
QuoteGreat job with Free BSD-tan's personality, backstory and appearance!
Now that I'm understanding more about the User Space Gang, I know I'm really gonna like them!
Fufu... Believe me, young Aurora-dono, you ain't seen nothing yet. ^^
The majority of my previous story ideas centered around Inferno-chan, although I think I should try to focus on FreeB-chan more since she is, in almost all respects, like the UNIX counterpart of Linux-sama. Even their ages are similar. ^___^
QuoteI like her so far! The boots are looking nice, too
AHA!!!!!! Now I see a smiley!!!! ^v^
Surely that your superior fashion sense approves. ^___^
....
*eye sparkles mischievously*
Probably also means you didn't like the previous drawings.... `v'
If you see something wrong, don't be afraid to tell me. With all your wonderful contributions, open-mindedness and peacemaking, you've more than earned the right to be merciless with me. ^____^
QuoteErm...geez...ehhhh...Incidents with Daemon-chans? Cannibalistic?
*thinks*
*puts 2-+-2 together*
*tick*
*twitch*
Well,... I kinda picture the Daemon-chas as small (1 foot tall, maybe -- basically gnome-sized imps with pitchforks), and hence quite tasty-looking to someone of FreeB-chan's disposition. ^^'
As for why I gave her that personality quirk,... perhaps if you studied about the OS, you could come up with some odd interpretation from her superior network capabilities. But in all honesty, it's just a random personality detail to make her not just a tit-for-tat representation of the OS. ^^;
(besides, she's a devilette... they probably eat like boars [no offense to myself].... ^.^)
QuoteMakes me think she'd get along perfectly (at least in eating contests!) with XP-sama!
Maybe! ^v^
But bear in mind that XP-sama can still best FreeB-chan as far as gross volume of food. After all, FreeB's memory requirements are much smaller than XP/Vista -- so while XP-tan needs to eat breakfast, brunch, lunch, linner, dinner and dreakfast just to avoid going hungry, FreeB-chan could theoretically survive on a bowl of rice today.
On the other hand, FreeB-chan could digest MANY more things than XP-tan. ^__^
Carbon steel? Yeah, it's good to have your fiber in the morning. ^___^
QuoteAlso...
Pufferfish...
Headcrabs...
*continues ticking*
Aaa sou sou,....
Should probably mention that the UserSpace Gang (thanks in part to the need to entertain a younger Inferno-chan) have their realm full of "pets".
From Daemon-chans seeking refuge from their matron, to cute captured Tuxes dressed up as Prinnies (sometimes tossed about to see if they explode), to highly destructive Space Bunnies.
OpenBSD-tan is hardly as original as her older sister, so all she could contribute was her pet pufferfish:
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/1/12/200px-Cartoonpuffy800X689px.gif)
Even so, FreeB-chan would've still used Puffy-chan to entertain Inferno-chan with a little "sushi theater".
Headcrabs, btw, are cute little aliens from the Half Life games that make squeaky noises, and,... oh yeah, latch onto people's heads and turn them into zombies. ^^;
Really meant more as cute cameos, since Plan 9-sama has many more sophisticated tools for practicing her necromancy. However, since she considers them like adorable "Tribbles" of the zombie world, she'll occasionally indulge in the little nod towards a game that could never possibly run in her system (not that she doesn't try to, though...). ^^;
(http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planethalflife.gamespy.com/images/oldsite/clusterimages/headcrab1156665905.jpg)(http://meisou.gonna.jp/topics/07_headcrab/headcrab_03.jpg)
In HalfLife 2, headcrabs are stuffed into canisters, attached onto rockets, and launched into areas populated by humans. Plan 9-san tries to do this as well,... but again, is always confuzzled whenever the canisters reach their destinations empty. She knows it can't be enemy espionage,... since she always has the mighty FreeBSD-tan protecting the rocket..... -.-
Speaking of pets, these are all still separate still from Inferno-chan's own dizzying array of "Inanimates". Unlike her mother, she doesn't have necromancy skills -- but she can bring inanimate and inert objects to life, and often does so for the wierdest natural phenomenon imaginable. T___T;
More on that later. ^^;
QuoteAfter reading that last part, I can see why she's no big loss to the Unix/Linux families...for heaven's sake, she probably would have eaten Minix-sensei and had DamnSmallLinux-chan for dessert!
Who says she hasn't tried? ^_____^
But no, actually she is a very big loss, but the funny thing is that they don't know it. ^v^
In fact, few of them realize that the darling-of-the-BSD-family, PCBSD-tan, was trained by the best. ^__~
The day Linux-sama and FreeBSD-sama can find a way to work together in perfect harmony is the day I offer much pity to anyone trying to stand in their way! ^v^
QuoteI'm really liking this so far!
Definitely! Compared to the sob stories I've given you thus far, Userspace stuff is definitely fun! ^___^
QuoteNice FreeBSD C-Chan!
We always need more Unixes.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you, Kitsune-san!
I believe this would be my second Unix-tan; the first one, I can't call "-tan", so I need to give myself lashings for that.... ^^;
*flagellates 65 times for his blasphemy*
....but yeah, it was always my hope to draw Unices. Still dying to draw a Solaris-sama. ^___^
QuoteI'm not doing much artistically right now, so I might work on the pic a bit
I might make her hair a little redder, and detail her dress some...
Thank you very much, Bella-sama! That means very much to me! ^v^
With your talent and exploding mastery of Inkscape, I can say with confidence that FreeB-chan is in good hands! ^___^
Quotehttp://meisou.gonna.jp/topics/07_headcrab/headcrab_03.jpg
I should have got one of those head crabs for when I went to sakura con as one of the halflife marines. that would have rocked (and more people would have figured out what I was)
I'd be careful with that FreeBSD C-chan.
Saseko's already tried to eat you once..I know FreeB-chan would..
XD
QuoteI'd be careful with that FreeBSD C-chan.
Saseko's already tried to eat you once..I know FreeB-chan would..
XD
BWAHAHA!!!!!!! Don't be--! ^v^
*CHOMP!!!!!!!!!*
......
*silence*
QuoteThe majority of my previous story ideas centered around Inferno-chan, although I think I should try to focus on FreeB-chan more since she is, in almost all respects, like the UNIX counterpart of Linux-sama. Even their ages are similar. ^___^
Interesting...
Though Linux-sama seems to have a helluva lot more daughters and granddaughters ;)
Since early distros like SLS ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System ) have never been depicted, and, honestly, I've never really thought of doing one or known of anyone who has. So do you suppose that Juzo-kun's ten most popular distro-tans might be considered the original daughters of Linux-sama, and then the distros based off of them considered their children (IE, Xubuntu-chan would be Ubuntu-san's daughter). Also, a good way to include a distro like SLS into Linux-sama's backstory could be to say SLS-chan is a young Slackware-san (cause SLS effectively evolved into Slackware)
Quote*eye sparkles mischievously*
Probably also means you didn't like the previous drawings.... `v'
If you see something wrong, don't be afraid to tell me. With all your wonderful contributions, open-mindedness and peacemaking, you've more than earned the right to be merciless with me. ^____^
Oh, come on now. It's a fine-tuning process ;)
I made a few changes to the design, but since Inkscape isn't installed on the computer I commandeered until K8 gets back from the shop, I can't post her : (
QuoteWell,... I kinda picture the Daemon-chas as small (1 foot tall, maybe -- basically gnome-sized imps with pitchforks), and hence quite tasty-looking to someone of FreeB-chan's disposition. ^^'
Hah! I can just imagine a picture of FreeBSD-san, after having a "snack" looking quite innocent...except for the miniature pitchfork she's holding. XD
QuoteMaybe! ^v^
But bear in mind that XP-sama can still best FreeB-chan as far as gross volume of food. After all, FreeB's memory requirements are much smaller than XP/Vista -- so while XP-tan needs to eat breakfast, brunch, lunch, linner, dinner and dreakfast just to avoid going hungry, FreeB-chan could theoretically survive on a bowl of rice today.
On the other hand, FreeB-chan could digest MANY more things than XP-tan. ^__^
Carbon steel? Yeah, it's good to have your fiber in the morning. ^___^
Heehee...that's why I keep my XP's on a diet!
QuoteFrom Daemon-chans seeking refuge from their matron, to cute captured Tuxes dressed up as Prinnies (sometimes tossed about to see if they explode), to highly destructive Space Bunnies.
Tux!
*real dramatically*
*NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!*
QuoteHeadcrabs, btw, are cute little aliens from the Half Life games that make squeaky noises, and,... oh yeah, latch onto people's heads and turn them into zombies. ^^;
Oh...
I was kinda thinking like lice creatures (ewwwwe!)
I dunno if this is better or worse O__o
QuoteSpeaking of pets, these are all still separate still from Inferno-chan's own dizzying array of "Inanimates". Unlike her mother, she doesn't have necromancy skills -- but she can bring inanimate and inert objects to life, and often does so for the wierdest natural phenomenon imaginable. T___T;
O___o
Interesting bunch :D
QuoteDefinitely! Compared to the sob stories I've given you thus far, Userspace stuff is definitely fun! ^___^
Awwww...I love a good bucket of sap! But yes, I love a good dose of comedy as well!
I hate to change topics, but can anyone give me an idea as to what these pix mean?
(http://nijiura.ath.cx/os/src/1193460024241.png)
This pic calls Mac-tan "Public Beta"...could this end the age-old Classic or OS X Mac-tan debate?
(http://nijiura.ath.cx/os/src/1193230408382.png)
And this one shows the two versions of Leopard-san. Perhaps this is a bit of coincidental support for our theory of having several Leopard-tans as being one character, at different times ;)
QuoteInteresting...
Though Linux-sama seems to have a helluva lot more daughters and granddaughters
Yep,... ironically, FreeBSD-tan claims to not be very good with kids (although she's a hit with Inferno-chan). The RL explanation is that GNU/Linux is likely a lot easier to work with/develop for than the free BSDs. This can translate into the OS-tan world as having different outlooks on life -- different aspirations for the future and plans to get there.
One could also say that FreeB-chan,... like Plan 9... harbors a secret trauma of the Unix Wars, and simply doesn't want to see a repeat of that happen to her own would-be daughters and granddaughters.
QuoteSince early distros like SLS ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System ) have never been depicted, and, honestly, I've never really thought of doing one or known of anyone who has. So do you suppose that Juzo-kun's ten most popular distro-tans might be considered the original daughters of Linux-sama, and then the distros based off of them considered their children (IE, Xubuntu-chan would be Ubuntu-san's daughter). Also, a good way to include a distro like SLS into Linux-sama's backstory could be to say SLS-chan is a young Slackware-san (cause SLS effectively evolved into Slackware)
I agree that SLS could be Slackware-tan, in much the same way that I want SunOS to simply be Solaris as a child (saves on time, especially since the two "different' systems are still fundamentally the same thing).
However, I should warn against creating too many mother-daughter relationships for us to handle, and try to stick to the original "sister cluster" theme so common in the OS-tan world. Regardless, Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu are simply official repackagings of Ubuntu, and so are technically sisters (Ubuntu just happens to be the eldest). Full blown forks, however, could possibly pass for mother-daughter splits. PCLOS-sama, for example, is a true fork of Mandriva-sama, and so could pass for her daughter. SAM-chan, on the other hand, is a sister through and through, and the same would apply to the other repackagings (TinyMe, Kanoshi, Granular, etc). ^__^
QuoteOh, come on now. It's a fine-tuning process
I made a few changes to the design, but since Inkscape isn't installed on the computer I commandeered until K8 gets back from the shop, I can't post her : (
*C-chan feels spirit cracked upon and fried like an egg on a skillet* X___X
QuoteHah! I can just imagine a picture of FreeBSD-san, after having a "snack" looking quite innocent...except for the miniature pitchfork she's holding. XD
*snaps hoof in approval*
You got it! ^__~
QuoteHeehee...that's why I keep my XP's on a diet!
Awwww... thought you'd have a thing or two to say about my two invented mealtimes: linner, dreakfast. I think there's some potential in marketing them as legitimate mealtimes (and make a killing if we invest now in food sectors... fufufu, yeah right). ^__^'
QuoteTux!
*real dramatically*
*NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!*
Ahhhh, no worries, they're a'ight.... ^__^
....
...For the most part. ^.^;
QuoteOh...
I was kinda thinking like lice creatures (ewwwwe!)
I dunno if this is better or worse O__o
Nah,... head crabs are like giant lice that leap up and suck your brains,... so,...... like,....... yeah, much worse. ^^;
Don't ask how Plan 9-tan can handle them so carefree like -- let's just say she has a way with undead and undead-inducing animals. ^___^;
QuoteO___o
Interesting bunch
Ah yeah! Everyone in the Userspace Gang is a little looney in their special way. ^^'
I know I still owe you a right-up, but the only ones who could PASS for normal are NetBSD-tan and Plan B-tan,... and only if you turn a blind eye to their occasional...... bad habits. ^^;
BTW, I know there's scarcely any time, but I'd like to draw you some uber-quick skeches of some of Inferno-chan's Inanimates... as well as Styx-san, a kind of butler figure commanded by Plan 9-tan to look after her the young Inferno-chan [with negligible success]).
QuoteI hate to change topics, but can anyone give me an idea as to what these pix mean?
Sadly, can't see the pics. ;__;
But if they are what I think they are,...
QuoteThis pic calls Mac-tan "Public Beta"...could this end the age-old Classic or OS X Mac-tan debate?
Not really, cause they use radically different Cheetah and Pu-chan designs. I'm biased to disregard the legitimacy of that "Public Beta" claim just on those grounds alone. T___T
My poor Pu-chan..... ;______;
QuoteAnd this one shows the two versions of Leopard-san. Perhaps this is a bit of coincidental support for our theory of having several Leopard-tans as being one character, at different times
Agreed, I think it is, and I definitely appreciate that our fellow ++ counterparts are equally conscious of their two different designs. I definitely want to foster this approach since it can work so well with the Time Machine-equipped Leopard. ^____^
(and besides, why not? this is probably the most we'll ever see of Mac OSX Leopard-tans anyway. ^^')
QuoteHowever, I should warn against creating too many mother-daughter relationships for us to handle, and try to stick to the original "sister cluster" theme so common in the OS-tan world. Regardless, Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu are simply official repackagings of Ubuntu, and so are technically sisters (Ubuntu just happens to be the eldest). Full blown forks, however, could possibly pass for mother-daughter splits. PCLOS-sama, for example, is a true fork of Mandriva-sama, and so could pass for her daughter. SAM-chan, on the other hand, is a sister through and through, and the same would apply to the other repackagings (TinyMe, Kanoshi, Granular, etc). ^__^
That's true...
QuoteAwwww... thought you'd have a thing or two to say about my two invented mealtimes: linner, dreakfast. I think there's some potential in marketing them as legitimate mealtimes (and make a killing if we invest now in food sectors... fufufu, yeah right). ^__^'
Oops, missed those XD
*mmmmm....linner....*
QuoteNah,... head crabs are like giant lice that leap up and suck your brains,... so,...... like,....... yeah, much worse. ^^;
Don't ask how Plan 9-tan can handle them so carefree like -- let's just say she has a way with undead and undead-inducing animals. ^___^;
Again, no wonder that Unix-sama or company have ever tried to get Plan 9-tan back in good graces. XD
QuoteI know I still owe you a right-up, but the only ones who could PASS for normal are NetBSD-tan and Plan B-tan,... and only if you turn a blind eye to their occasional...... bad habits. ^^;
sounds like me and my Homeko ;)
QuoteNot really, cause they use radically different Cheetah and Pu-chan designs. I'm biased to disregard the legitimacy of that "Public Beta" claim just on those grounds alone. T___T
My poor Pu-chan..... ;______;
Oh...
QuoteAgreed, I think it is, and I definitely appreciate that our fellow ++ counterparts are equally conscious of their two different designs. I definitely want to foster this approach since it can work so well with the Time Machine-equipped Leopard. ^____^
(and besides, why not? this is probably the most we'll ever see of Mac OSX Leopard-tans anyway. ^^')
Excellent!
In any event, I said I'd be quickly sketching Inferno-chan's pets, and well,... it went a lot faster than I thought... ^^
(http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/Inanimates.png)
O...M...G...
I'm really interested already ^_^
Although, with all those inanimates, I almost think she's going to cause a natural disaster or two ;)
QuoteI'm really interested already
Fufufu,... I guess it's true that pictures are worth a thousand words. ^.^
Now at least you see the dilemma (that only Plan B-tan seems to have a problem with)....
Plan 9-sama wants to build a new empire, but instead -- due to her unending love for her daughter -- ends up fostering the growth of a veritable ZOO instead. ^___^
Cause trust me,... that doesn't even cover the full list of critters that have passed through UserSpace -- and ignores the fact that there are a lot of certain varieties of them (e.g., there's way more than one Daemon-chan, and Inferno-chan used to make Volcano-chans by the dozen).
QuoteAlthough, with all those inanimates, I almost think she's going to cause a natural disaster or two
Oh right, should've clarified that they're all really
small. ^__^
The tallest (Tornado-chan) would be about knee-high -- so while they can unleash natural disasters, there effects would only be devastating to the likes of DSL-chan. ^___^
On the other hand, you also wouldn't want living Volcanoes producing mini eruptions in front of rocket fuel. ^^'
BTW, you may have guessed by now, Inferno-chan's favorite Inanimates are fire-based calamities. This, unfortunately, complicates things with her mother, as bunnies roast quite easily. ^___^'
QuoteOh right, should've clarified that they're all really small. ^__^
The tallest (Tornado-chan) would be about knee-high -- so while they can unleash natural disasters, there effects would only be devastating to the likes of DSL-chan. ^___^
On the other hand, you also wouldn't want living Volcanoes producing mini eruptions in front of rocket fuel. ^^'
Oh, okay!
*phew*
QuoteThis, unfortunately, complicates things with her mother, as bunnies roast quite easily. ^___^'
*starts singing a carol*
*Bunnies roasting on an open fire, jack frost nippin' at your nose...*
..."Killer Space bunnies"?
I automaticly think of the Rabbids from Rayman.
Aww, Cute little Inanimates..
*Sees volcano-chan*
O.O
*Holds mouth shut*
...MUST RESIST....
Quote from: "Iggy Koopa""This is a volcano"
Quote from: "George the Volcano""I'm filling my water with Volcanicity"
Oi, Forgive me. I've spent too much time on youtube..
I see little Inferno was never short on things to play with.
Hehehe.
Quote*starts singing a carol*
*Bunnies roasting on an open fire, jack frost nippin' at your nose...*
I think you're getting into the spirit of the UserSpace gang. ^__^
Watch any Anime comedy who's writers were obviously on crack for more inspiration (e.g., Dragon Half, Excel Saga, Hare+Guu)
Quote..."Killer Space bunnies"?
I automaticly think of the Rabbids from Rayman.
Those cute little bundle of fangs are a cross between the original Plan 9 mascot (Glenda the Space Bunny) and the Monty Python killer rabbit.
QuoteAww, Cute little Inanimates..
*Sees volcano-chan*
O.O
*Holds mouth shut*
...MUST RESIST....
Oi, Forgive me. I've spent too much time on youtube..
I see little Inferno was never short on things to play with.
Hehehe.
Fufufu,.. you've got the idea as well. ^__^
My original intention was to make Inferno-chan something of a little hellraiser, not only impervious to fire and able to shoot out fire beams, but also emanate a lot of heat herself. If you get too close to her, you risk getting burnt. If you give her some ice cream, it will melt before it reaches her hand. I even had a story where Inferno-chan gets stopped in a forest by 95-tan, who promptly facefaults when a curious little finger touches her sword and makes it melt in an instant.
That's why she's something of a loner -- with the exception of some fireproof OS-tans like the BSDs, she has very few real friends (even Plan 9-tan can only tuck her in bed using a special suit). This is not much of a problem when she's a child -- as you say, she's surrounded by tons of playthings (especially lots of fireproof ones, like the Calamity-chans) and is never bored. But I reckon as she grows older and outgrows her own equivalent of "plush toys", she'll start to wonder why she can't play with other OS-tans her age. '.'
Gyaaaaaaah,... but that's delving too dangerously into drama again, and I don't have the heart to put the Userspace Gang into those kinds of scenarios. -v-
QuoteWatch any Anime comedy who's writers were obviously on crack for more inspiration (e.g., Dragon Half, Excel Saga, Hare+Guu)
LOL!
QuoteThose cute little bundle of fangs are a cross between the original Plan 9 mascot (Glenda the Space Bunny) and the Monty Python killer rabbit.
As if Glenda isn't frightening enough? ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/Plan9bunnysmblack.jpg)
*shivers*
QuoteMy original intention was to make Inferno-chan something of a little hellraiser, not only impervious to fire and able to shoot out fire beams, but also emanate a lot of heat herself. If you get too close to her, you risk getting burnt.
*breaks out into song...
again..*
*She is hotblooded, check it and see, she's gotta fever of one hundred and three....hotblooded....hotblooded!!!*
Darn you for making that Foreigner song pop into my head!!! >__<
QuoteIf you give her some ice cream, it will melt before it reaches her hand. I even had a story where Inferno-chan gets stopped in a forest by 95-tan, who promptly facefaults when a curious little finger touches her sword and makes it melt in an instant.
*still humming song...*
Oh-wha?
Did I say I liked Inferno-chan? Now I love her :D
QuoteThat's why she's something of a loner -- with the exception of some fireproof OS-tans like the BSDs, she has very few real friends (even Plan 9-tan can only tuck her in bed using a special suit). This is not much of a problem when she's a child -- as you say, she's surrounded by tons of playthings (especially lots of fireproof ones, like the Calamity-chans) and is never bored. But I reckon as she grows older and outgrows her own equivalent of "plush toys", she'll start to wonder why she can't play with other OS-tans her age. '.'
Gyaaaaaaah,... but that's delving too dangerously into drama again, and I don't have the heart to put the Userspace Gang into those kinds of scenarios. -v-
Oh...my...
*starts bawling*
Drama follows you, I think...
But on the good side, I bet Inferno-chan would be able to use my laptop (which is frickin hot right now!!!)
Added after EMS brought me back to life: OMG
O___O
I was going to post a little on some of the DEC-tans, but while on Wikipedia this caught my eye:
http://www.systella.fr/~bertrand/FreeVMS/indexGB.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeVMS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeVMS
Dear Lord! VMS-sama has a boatload of clones @__@
(and just when I thought having "Hotblooded" stuck in my head was going to be the most frightening part of my day!)
EDITED....AGAIN...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAXELN
Oh yeah, and another RSX/VMS relative. It's actually listed as a direct decedent of them:
( note, this is too big to post : \ Scroll down to OpenVMS in 1995)
http://www.oshistory.net/public/non-unix_os_history_0.4.0.crop-9.jpg
Quote from: "C-chan"Those cute little bundle of fangs are a cross between the original Plan 9 mascot (Glenda the Space Bunny) and the Monty Python killer rabbit.
Awww, So basicly cute, Furry, little balls of destruction?
Quote from: "C-chan"Fufufu,.. you've got the idea as well. ^__^
My original intention was to make Inferno-chan something of a little hellraiser, not only impervious to fire and able to shoot out fire beams, but also emanate a lot of heat herself. If you get too close to her, you risk getting burnt. If you give her some ice cream, it will melt before it reaches her hand. I even had a story where Inferno-chan gets stopped in a forest by 95-tan, who promptly facefaults when a curious little finger touches her sword and makes it melt in an instant.
*Falls out of his chair*
BWAHAHAH!! I can actually see that happening..
*A little lightbulb appears over his head*
Hey, that means she can melt Secchan's bottle-opener as well.
Oh Inferno, where are you?
*Runs off looking for her*
Added after 40 minutes:*Comes back with singed hair and a hand-shaped burn-mark on his left arm*
..She didn't want to..*Coughs up smoke*
Quote from: "C-chan"This is not much of a problem when she's a child -- as you say, she's surrounded by tons of playthings (especially lots of fireproof ones, like the Calamity-chans) and is never bored.
*Watches avalanche-chan melt into a rather small puddle*
Well, most of them are fireproof at least.. XD
Quote from: "C-chan"Speaking of pets, these are all still separate still from Inferno-chan's own dizzying array of "Inanimates". Unlike her mother, she doesn't have necromancy skills -- but she can bring inanimate and inert objects to life, and often does so for the wierdest natural phenomenon imaginable. T___T;
Hmm, You've perked my interest C-chan...But I'm almost afraid to ask after seeing that face you just made.
..Must resist the urge to hug space bunnies..
On, Did I mention how
CUTE[/u] Dameon-chan, Netmon-chan, and Tux-prinny-chan are?
:D
QuoteAs if Glenda isn't frightening enough?
*shivers*
Awww... but Glenda's kinda cute for a UNIX mascot. ^___^
Better than that weird triangle Java thingie that follows Solaris-sama around. ^___^
(http://www.xunis.com/art/duke_java_logo.gif)
I swear, the thing looks like a baby Pyramid Head.... O__o
Quote*breaks out into song...again..*
*She is hotblooded, check it and see, she's gotta fever of one hundred and three....hotblooded....hotblooded!!!*
Darn you for making that Foreigner song pop into my head!!! >__<
*musical cultural reference goes WAAAAAAAAAAAY over C-chan's head*
Okay,... you bested me,.... I'm lost..... XvX
Quote*still humming song...*
Oh-wha?
Did I say I liked Inferno-chan? Now I love her
Then my job is done. ^__^
I can retire now! ^v^
*starts packing bags and setting up hammock*
QuoteOh...my...
*starts bawling*
Drama follows you, I think...
I'm trying very hard to repel that though with humorous story ideas. ^___^
I was recently tossing around an idea where a young Inferno-chan (after perhaps watching a little too much of FreeB-chan's anime) yearns to go to school, and Plan 9-tan (ever attentive to her daughters wants and needs) orders the BSD-tans to build one. She becomes the teacher, and gets everyone in the Userspace Gang to become pretend-students to set the atmosphere.
Unfortunately, the BSD-tans end up building a mock high school instead (gee,... wonder why?), and test Plan 9-tan's patience in the classroom making less-than-subtle references to and parodies of high school anime (in other words, 90% of the market).
FreeB-chan, for example, would make an excellent Dokuro-chan cosplayer.... ^.^
(http://myanimelist.net/images/anime/4/3231.jpg)
QuoteDear Lord! VMS-sama has a boatload of clones @__@
(and just when I thought having "Hotblooded" stuck in my head was going to be the most frightening part of my day!)
Funny how I chose to lump in regular VMS-tan and OpenVMS-tan into one character when I first did her character concept -- but I definitely did not know of the existence of the FreeVMS project.
If you think about it, there are a ton of of FOSS projects mirroring proprietary systems -- and yes, including OS/2. ^^
Would make for an interesting discussion of who she'd be,... descendant or just avid admirer and/or follower? ^__^
QuoteEDITED....AGAIN...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAXELN
Oh yeah, and another RSX/VMS relative. It's actually listed as a direct decedent of them:
( note, this is too big to post : \ Scroll down to OpenVMS in 1995)
HOLY MOTHER LUVER!!!! @o@
Well,... now I know where the Windows-tans get their Soap Opera family lifestyle from.... ^___^'
QuoteAwww, So basicly cute, Furry, little balls of destruction?
p-r-e-c-i-s-e-l-y! ^__^
QuoteHey, that means she can melt Secchan's bottle-opener as well.
Oh Inferno, where are you?
*Runs off looking for her*
Careful now..... Inferno-chan may be powerful, but is also fairly easy to distract. ^__^
You wouldn't want for her to walk out on you, chasing after a piece of candy or other curiosity, while Secchan pulls out an auxiliary bottle opener just for you. ^.^
Quote*Comes back with singed hair and a hand-shaped burn-mark on his left arm*
..She didn't want to..*Coughs up smoke*
Ah yes, and she does that a lot. ^___^
Don't bother complaining to the mother, since she's worse. ^.^'
Quote*Watches avalanche-chan melt into a rather small puddle*
Well, most of them are fireproof at least.. XD
Sou sou.... ^.^
Well not all Inanimates are meant to play with directly. She forms them based on whatever material is lying around, so when she's in a cold climate, she makes Avalanche-chans, Geyser-chans, Iceberg-chans and Glaciar-chans. Naturally, since they don't last long around her, she hates cold climates. ^___^
QuoteHmm, You've perked my interest C-chan...But I'm almost afraid to ask after seeing that face you just made.
Well you know,... walking knee-high volcanoes and all scurrying about, spitting lava left and right,...
Not a cool thing to have if you're a neat freak or have a ton of stationary lying around. ^___^'
Quote..Must resist the urge to hug space bunnies..
On, Did I mention how CUTE Dameon-chan, Netmon-chan, and Tux-prinny-chan are?
Than you. ^__^
Yeah, I kinda like the prettified Head Crabs the most, if only because of the sweet sweet irony of it all. ^___^
The pictue also doesn't do Styx-san much justice, but he is a bit of comic relief, if only because he's too small, too slow and too overly courteous to be of much help controlling the living firecracker that is Inferno-chan. ^v^
That's why in many ways, FreeB-chan is the unofficial nanny and tutor of Inferno-chan, despite the fact that she doesn't always encourage good things. ^^'
(Despite what she says, eating pets is not cool, and you should never try eating a miniature volcano at home!) ^0^
In any event, I think I'm done as far as my rounds go. I know there's still some techie threads to respond to, but I'll take care of them some other time..... ^___^
I am glad to be back in business, though. ^.^
Quote from: "C-chan"I swear, the thing looks like a baby Pyramid Head.... O__o
XD Yeah, I agree with you there. Some of the unixes have some weird mascots.. Though I just remembered the Living Help button from Homeko's setup program, and the Wizard from ME. (I think it was ME)
Quote from: "C-chan"Careful now..... Inferno-chan may be powerful, but is also fairly easy to distract. ^__^
You wouldn't want for her to walk out on you, chasing after a piece of candy or other curiosity, while Secchan pulls out an auxiliary bottle opener just for you. ^.^
O.O meep. I didn't think of that.
(even worse she could use one of her other "Devices" such as the Dual Sizors.)
Quote from: "C-chan"Ah yes, and she does that a lot. ^___^
Don't bother complaining to the mother, since she's worse. ^.^'
*gulp* Plan-9-sama.
I've never really encountered her, but I'm sure I don't want to..
Quote from: "C-chan"Than you. ^__^
Yeah, I kinda like the prettified Head Crabs the most, if only because of the sweet sweet irony of it all. ^___^
Bwahahah!
Yes, Headcrab-chan is one of my favorites too. You just gotta love a headcrab with a little bow.
Just something I noticed, FreeBSD-tan's eaten everything on that list at least once (well, except for the Calamity chans and Styx)
Quote from: "Bella"*starts singing a carol*
*Bunnies roasting on an open fire, jack frost nippin' at your nose...*
Ahh. I'll have to remember that one around christmas time.
QuoteAwww... but Glenda's kinda cute for a UNIX mascot. ^___^
Better than that weird triangle Java thingie that follows Solaris-sama around. ^___^
Yeah, kinda cute...but look at that expression...what's she planning..?
Not like cuddly little Tux :P
And yeah, that Java thing is creepy O___O
Quote*musical cultural reference goes WAAAAAAAAAAAY over C-chan's head*
Okay,... you bested me,.... I'm lost..... XvX
C'mon, 70s power-rock song? Annoying? Ring a bell...?
Bah, it fits her perfectly ;)
QuoteI'm trying very hard to repel that though with humorous story ideas. ^___^
I was recently tossing around an idea where a young Inferno-chan (after perhaps watching a little too much of FreeB-chan's anime) yearns to go to school, and Plan 9-tan (ever attentive to her daughters wants and needs) orders the BSD-tans to build one. She becomes the teacher, and gets everyone in the Userspace Gang to become pretend-students to set the atmosphere.
Unfortunately, the BSD-tans end up building a mock high school instead (gee,... wonder why?), and test Plan 9-tan's patience in the classroom making less-than-subtle references to and parodies of high school anime (in other words, 90% of the market).
LOL!!! ;010
Great idea XD!
QuoteFunny how I chose to lump in regular VMS-tan and OpenVMS-tan into one character when I first did her character concept -- but I definitely did not know of the existence of the FreeVMS project.
I think the VMS/OpenVMS being one character idea is good. It shows how she evolves from a very mainstream existence to a much more shadowy and fringe one.
As for FreeVMS, I only discovered that because I clicked on the wrong link in Wikipedia! It's been up for months, and it's usually linked to VMS...but this time it went to this other page and I was like, no #*&^%*$ way!?
QuoteWould make for an interesting discussion of who she'd be,... descendant or just avid admirer and/or follower? ^__^
Well, I think a "blood" descendant is usually a character that either has code transfer, close internal similarities, or a common architect and or team. I guess NT only has the latter two, but given the circumstances I think it works quite well as VMS-sama being the mother of NT-sama.
I think, FreeVMS-chan (some reason I'm seeing her as-GASP-a young girl, for FreeVMS seems very barebones a system, IE, it doesn't even have a GUI or anything) would be only a admirer, someone who has studied all of VMS-sama's teachings. Kinda like Linux-chan to Unix-sama, on a much smaller scale ;)
OZONE-chan (again, I'm seeing a younger character XD) is a little more difficult...cause her single creator seems to want her to take after VMS, NT AND Unix-sama, which is like trying to make one person believe in ideologies of polar opposites, at once o_o
QuoteHOLY MOTHER LUVER!!!! @o@
Well,... now I know where the Windows-tans get their Soap Opera family lifestyle from.... ^___^'
This is the character I'm really unsure of heritage-wise...even though it shows VAXELN as being an offshoot of VMS (and most likely a daughter), I'd really hate for her to be VMS-sama's child (bear with me on this one).
For an OS that was so popular (at least by DEC standards), they never had any successor or offshoot of VMS (not counting VAXELN). I'd almost like to think she never would, or could, have any daughter (which, besides alluding to my former point, could add some drama to the NT-san situation, IE, the only daughter she ever had was raised pure M$ and Windows).
Therefore, the closest I'd like them to be is sisters, at most...but VAXELN sounds like she might be a pretty pathetic character as she kinda showed up late at DEC (96/97), while they were on their way out : |
By then VMS-san had other fish to fry, and probably wasn't hanging with her family much anymore. And the only relative she had, RSX-sama, was getting pretty old herself (but non the less wiser!)
QuoteAh yes, and she does that a lot. ^___^
Don't bother complaining to the mother, since she's worse. ^.^'
XD
Sorry guys,... far as I can go....
Wait for me,... the piggy shall return to spread, joy, happiness, words of wisdom and pork products! ^.^
*trots off*
QuoteXD Yeah, I agree with you there. Some of the unixes have some weird mascots.. Though I just remembered the Living Help button from Homeko's setup program, and the Wizard from ME. (I think it was ME)
*shudders* Yeeeeeeeeeeah,... in that case, I rather just have Baby PyramidHead around. ^.^;
QuoteBwahahah!
Yes, Headcrab-chan is one of my favorites too. You just gotta love a headcrab with a little bow.
Just something I noticed, FreeBSD-tan's eaten everything on that list at least once (well, except for the Calamity chans and Styx)
Fufufu....
She hasn't eaten Calamity-chans and Styx-san? `v'
*chuckles*
Well let's just put it this way. That title could easily be rewritten as "Snack Menu". ^___^
Nah but seriously, she mostly feasts on Head Crabs, but uses her.... "fame".... to cow every living thing below knee-level into submission. Occasionally she makes an example of one of them, but that's about all. ^.^
QuoteC'mon, 70s power-rock song? Annoying? Ring a bell...?
Bah, it fits her perfectly
Hmmm,.... 70's.... power.... rock.... song.... annoying....
Gee, that kinda like.... describes all the music of the era, doesn't it? ^__^;
I mean,... I suppose I can recall bands like The Carpenters or the Supremes, but generally the C-chan's brain is not properly configured to retain names of pop culture icons. A particular annoyance to my acquaintances who can name every single Hollywood actor and actress, only to see that well-woven tapestry of words squeeze in one ear and out the other. ^v^;
(Geena Davis, Uma Thurman, and Sigoruney Weaver are about the extent of my actress knowledge base).
QuoteLOL!!!
Great idea XD!
Would be better if I could draw it.
[imitates oldtimer] Alas, the C-chan is getting too old to keep up with you young'uns,... -v-
QuoteWell, I think a "blood" descendant is usually a character that either has code transfer, close internal similarities, or a common architect and or team. I guess NT only has the latter two, but given the circumstances I think it works quite well as VMS-sama being the mother of NT-sama.
First two are negotiable, though. It's just a matter of getting M$ to give us a small peak at the NT source code. ^.^
Wonder how hard it is to get a job in the Upper Echelons of the Chinese government. ^___^'
QuoteI think, FreeVMS-chan (some reason I'm seeing her as-GASP-a young girl, for FreeVMS seems very barebones a system, IE, it doesn't even have a GUI or anything) would be only a admirer, someone who has studied all of VMS-sama's teachings. Kinda like Linux-chan to Unix-sama, on a much smaller scale
Now now, I think by now it's no longer surprising that you're drawing childtype characters. ^__^
You did draw Apple ][=chan, Lisa-chan and Win2.0-chan as girls, and AROS-chan/Puppy-chan do count as some as well.
QuoteOZONE-chan (again, I'm seeing a younger character XD) is a little more difficult...cause her single creator seems to want her to take after VMS, NT AND Unix-sama, which is like trying to make one person believe in ideologies of polar opposites, at once
Bipolar then..... ¯v¯
*sips tea*
QuoteTherefore, the closest I'd like them to be is sisters, at most...but VAXELN sounds like she might be a pretty pathetic character as she kinda showed up late at DEC (96/97), while they were on their way out : |
By then VMS-san had other fish to fry, and probably wasn't hanging with her family much anymore. And the only relative she had, RSX-sama, was getting pretty old herself (but non the less wiser!)
Fufufu,... well, I mean it's not like the world suffers from a shortage of pathetic siblings after all. ^^;
I too would probably vouch for making VAXELN a younger and more foolish sister of sorts. A member of that mercilessly disenfranchised gap between the so-called "Generation X" and "Generation Y", the teens of which are lazy, ambitionless and woefully disinterested in tradition. I suppose between a shady older sister slipping further and further into madness, and a company whose rich history is slipping more and more into obscurity, shoulder shrugging just seems like a natural defence against a seemingly hopeless future. ^^;
Perhaps if she knew she was an aunt, maybe she'd clean up her act. '__'
Quote*chuckles*
Well let's just put it this way. That title could easily be rewritten as "Snack Menu". ^___^
*like ordering at fast-food restaurant*
"Erm, yeah, I want the McHead Crab-sandwich, with a small side of TuxPrinnies, extra lava, and a Daemon for dessert..."
QuoteI mean,... I suppose I can recall bands like The Carpenters or the Supremes, but generally the C-chan's brain is not properly configured to retain names of pop culture icons. A particular annoyance to my acquaintances who can name every single Hollywood actor and actress, only to see that well-woven tapestry of words squeeze in one ear and out the other. ^v^;
(Geena Davis, Uma Thurman, and Sigoruney Weaver are about the extent of my actress knowledge base).
I listen to waaaaay to much 70s/80s music XD Not that it's my favorite genre, or anything O__o
(I usually listen to that while driving, but at home I promise my tastes are better :P)
QuoteFirst two are negotiable, though. It's just a matter of getting M$ to give us a small peak at the NT source code. ^.^
Wonder how hard it is to get a job in the Upper Echelons of the Chinese government. ^___^'
LOL...oh, that's right, the hidden source code ;)
*though, you'd think HP could sue M$ if they ever found evidence of VMS code...*
QuoteNow now, I think by now it's no longer surprising that you're drawing childtype characters. ^__^
You did draw Apple ][=chan, Lisa-chan and Win2.0-chan as girls, and AROS-chan/Puppy-chan do count as some as well.
That's true...though, these were already existing designs...
As for FreeVMS-chan, I see her as being around 10/12 years old, having maybe black (or dark blue) hair, dark eyes and thick glasses. And little pigtails. XD
QuoteBipolar then..... ¯v¯
*sips tea*
I really have no concepts for her, though.
QuoteAlthough, maybe she should be prone to giant mood and personality swings XD
Fufufu,... well, I mean it's not like the world suffers from a shortage of pathetic siblings after all. ^^;
I too would probably vouch for making VAXELN a younger and more foolish sister of sorts. A member of that mercilessly disenfranchised gap between the so-called "Generation X" and "Generation Y", the teens of which are lazy, ambitionless and woefully disinterested in tradition. I suppose between a shady older sister slipping further and further into madness, and a company whose rich history is slipping more and more into obscurity, shoulder shrugging just seems like a natural defence against a seemingly hopeless future. ^^;
Perhaps if she knew she was an aunt, maybe she'd clean up her act. '__'
:..(
I kinda see her as (and this is probably a
bad metaphor) a latecomer to a party...like, "gees, where's everyone going?"
Good-intentioned and naive, I guess : |
Although, if you want to read a sorta encouraging article, check this out:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=202801794
OpenVMS...Great OS, or the greatest OS?
Quote:..(
I kinda see her as (and this is probably a bad metaphor) a latecomer to a party...like, "gees, where's everyone going?"
Good-intentioned and naive, I guess : |
Ah sou sou, you meant THAT kind of pathetic. ^^
Bad Bella-san, misleading me like that... no treats for you.... ^.^
Course, was hoping for a troubled OS-tan character, since,... if you think about it,... they're kinda rare. We make them all too nice. ^__^'
VMS-sama is "uncrackable", it says? Wow, that's interesting. Does lead credence to the premise that,... while incredibly outnumbered,... VMS-sama is something of a legendary warrior that can easily defend against even an army of aggressors. ^.^
I'll probably read that more calmly later, but for now I think I'll wrap up for the day. -v-
Added after 11 hours 33 minutes: Quote*like ordering at fast-food restaurant*
"Erm, yeah, I want the McHead Crab-sandwich, with a small side of TuxPrinnies, extra lava, and a Daemon for dessert..."
Don't forget to hold the bacon. ^___^;
*inches away nervously from ensuing carnage*
QuoteI listen to waaaaay to much 70s/80s music XD Not that it's my favorite genre, or anything O__o
(I usually listen to that while driving, but at home I promise my tastes are better :P)
I'm ashamed to say that I haven't listened to anything in English for quite some time. I'm amazed I'm not fluent in Japanese and Russian (Origa ROCKS!) by now.... ^^;
Anyway, just joking though,... I do like 70's and 80's music, and perhaps the reason I like JPOP is because it reminds me of when music was actually fun music. ^___^
I am considering trying out more Indie stuff, since it's that kind of music that's leading the way towards free and non-RIAA distributions -- the less money those bastardly music companies receive, the better it will be for everyone. T__T
QuoteLOL...oh, that's right, the hidden source code
*though, you'd think HP could sue M$ if they ever found evidence of VMS code...*
Apple did for Video for Windows (remember that one... ^.^').
Anyone willing to fight against a company whose assets number in the tens of BILLIONS of US dollars certainly has a lot to pick and choose,... if they have the guts for it. ^___^
QuoteThat's true...though, these were already existing designs...
As for FreeVMS-chan, I see her as being around 10/12 years old, having maybe black (or dark blue) hair, dark eyes and thick glasses. And little pigtails. XD
GWAHAH!!! ^V^
*hugs Bella*
Congratulations!! You're now officially a Family Artist. ^___^
Whereas once you were a Fuddruckers or Hard Rock Cafe, now you've transcended into the realm of Denny's and Big Boys. ^__^
(hopefully I'm picking restaurants near where you live,... I would hate to mix up Vermont with Michigan where I was at recently. ;___;)
QuoteI really have no concepts for her, though.
How about reusing that "troubled youth" concept on OZONE-tan? ^__^
Not by choice,... just all that confusion would mess with anyone's mind. ^.^;
Quote:..(
I kinda see her as (and this is probably a bad metaphor) a latecomer to a party...like, "gees, where's everyone going?"
Good-intentioned and naive, I guess : |
Now that I look at this again with fresh eyes, I'm worried I hit a raw spot. ;__;
Gomen gomen, if I did... ;^~^;
QuoteVMS-sama is "uncrackable", it says? Wow, that's interesting. Does lead credence to the premise that,... while incredibly outnumbered,... VMS-sama is something of a legendary warrior that can easily defend against even an army of aggressors. ^.^
I know O___O I always thought she was a bit of a nobody, but now I think she actually has a legitimate claim when she says she's better than those Unixes (not that I agree with her, mind you ;) )
*Bows down to VMS-sama* "Oh, mine VMS-sama, thou may be lesser of power than thine Goddess Unix-sama, yet thou haveth a power not of magic nor sourcery but of unstoppable will!"
Anyhow.....
The article even attributes some of NT's (not as screwy as previous Windows) security to VMS...!!!
A bit of an exaggeration, I think, but even if NT does carry one iota of VMS's security...
QuoteI'm amazed I'm not fluent in Japanese and Russian (Origa ROCKS!) by now.... ^^;
Ooooh, I've heard some of Origa's music...she is great :)
QuoteApple did for Video for Windows (remember that one... ^.^').
Anyone willing to fight against a company whose assets number in the tens of BILLIONS of US dollars certainly has a lot to pick and choose,... if they have the guts for it. ^___^
I have to read about that ;)
QuoteWhereas once you were a Fuddruckers or Hard Rock Cafe, now you've transcended into the realm of Denny's and Big Boys. ^__^
(hopefully I'm picking restaurants near where you live,... I would hate to mix up Vermont with Michigan where I was at recently. ;___;)
Oh, trust me, my days of waiting at the Hard Rock Cafe are far from over...
but...
Wait...did you just mix up Vermont with my native NH?
*shudders*
QuoteHow about reusing that "troubled youth" concept on OZONE-tan? ^__^
Not by choice,... just all that confusion would mess with anyone's mind. ^.^;
...maybe XD
QuoteNow that I look at this again with fresh eyes, I'm worried I hit a raw spot. ;__;
Gomen gomen, if I did... ;^~^;
Yes, I've been quite sad about the fate of DEC ever since I learned of it last summer ;)
J/K
QuoteI know O___O I always thought she was a bit of a nobody, but now I think she actually has a legitimate claim when she says she's better than those Unixes (not that I agree with her, mind you )
Well yeah, we have to understand that even when Unix was born, she was considered an inferior product to Multics and all the other "big girls" of the trade. A lot of stuff that came after improved upon the original model, not the least of which is Linux, Plan 9, z/OS, the newer era Unices, and of course VMS. ^__^
However,... preinstallation and prepackaging conspiracies by M$ aside, it's not hard to see why a technically inferior product is the OS of choice for over 3/4 of the market. People will always flock to the best combination of software support, hardware support, familiarity, price,... and just plain ol' popularity. Not sure if the Alpha machines carrying VMS were any cheaper or pricier than the Unix equivalents of old, but for sure UNIX-sama p4wned her in all the other categories.
It's all about the marketing bab-eh! And damn shame that OpenVMS is not as well marketed as it should be,....
The moment they do like QNX and do away with silly hobbyist licensing schemes, I think a seriously contender to Linux and [the "new"] Solaris could emerge. Seeing Linux-sama and VMS-sama face-off, both with supercharged weapons and Compiz Fusion armor, would put a whole new spin on "Blast from the Past". ^____^
QuoteA bit of an exaggeration, I think, but even if NT does carry one iota of VMS's security...
After reading the article about Windows 7, I'm starting to suspect this so-called "WinMin" kernel is really just a VERY early build of the NT kernel when it still had undisguised elements of OpenVMS. In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to salvage their OS sales using near-20 year old technology disguised as something new and hip.
Then again, I wouldn't be so sure,... M$ technicians have demonstrated a HUGE lack of creativity in recent years. ^^;
QuoteOoooh, I've heard some of Origa's music...she is great
Inner Universe hooked me first, then I found some CD's via Amazon. The rest is history. ^__^
QuoteWait...did you just mix up Vermont with my native NH?
*shudders*
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*looks away and sweatdrops* Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh,.......................................... no. ¬¬;
*shuffles away slowly*
QuoteYes, I've been quite sad about the fate of DEC ever since I learned of it last summer
Now now,... all good things have to come to an end. ^__^
Besides, you're helping to keep their memory alive, so it's not all bad. ^v^
Though we're still a relatively small community, I'm still hoping we can build some degree of awareness about all these systems that few people have even heard of, or don't realize that they power their banks, schools, servers, mainframes, cell phones, etc.... ^.^
QuoteWell yeah, we have to understand that even when Unix was born, she was considered an inferior product to Multics and all the other "big girls" of the trade. A lot of stuff that came after improved upon the original model, not the least of which is Linux, Plan 9, z/OS, the newer era Unices, and of course VMS. ^__^
Yeah.
Recently I was reading the Unix-Haters' Handbook (for a lark mostly XD)...
I didn't read the whole thing in it's entirety, but it does seem as if the author mostly focused on the original, 1969 Bell Labs version, comparing it to just about every OS that came after it.
Seems kind of unfair, because, like you said, a lot of OSs came afterward that improved on it...
QuoteThe moment they do like QNX and do away with silly hobbyist licensing schemes, I think a seriously contender to Linux and [the "new"] Solaris could emerge. Seeing Linux-sama and VMS-sama face-off, both with supercharged weapons and Compiz Fusion armor, would put a whole new spin on "Blast from the Past". ^____^
*thinks of my epic-ish VMS v. Linux-sama pic*
QuoteAfter reading the article about Windows 7, I'm starting to suspect this so-called "WinMin" kernel is really just a VERY early build of the NT kernel when it still had undisguised elements of OpenVMS. In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to salvage their OS sales using near-20 year old technology disguised as something new and hip.
Then again, I wouldn't be so sure,... M$ technicians have demonstrated a HUGE lack of creativity in recent years. ^^;
Oi. It piqued my interest for a moment when I read about that in Wikipedia. I dunno if I think that's a good idea, or bad...
Like I've said before, the Windows ship has sailed, for me. I don't care if they rip off Linux and slap a new name on it, I ain't going back to Windows, that is to say, if I stop using XP : |
Quote*looks away and sweatdrops* Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh,.......................................... no. ¬¬;
*shuffles away slowly*
*dramatically*
Oh! If only you knew the epic rivalry between our two states! It hath cost many a man his pride, many a derogatory stereotypical joke has been flung...
QuoteNow now,... all good things have to come to an end. ^__^
Besides, you're helping to keep their memory alive, so it's not all bad. ^v^
Though we're still a relatively small community, I'm still hoping we can build some degree of awareness about all these systems that few people have even heard of, or don't realize that they power their banks, schools, servers, mainframes, cell phones, etc.... ^.^
*Continues drama*
Why, the good companies die youn....of wait, it was like 40 years...
;018
QuoteYeah.
Recently I was reading the Unix-Haters' Handbook (for a lark mostly XD)...
I didn't read the whole thing in it's entirety, but it does seem as if the author mostly focused on the original, 1969 Bell Labs version, comparing it to just about every OS that came after it.
Seems kind of unfair, because, like you said, a lot of OSs came afterward that improved on it...
If that's the case, then yeah, what a #@$%*#&#! >_<
Actually came across a similar situation recently, where a reviewer was trying to compare PCLinuxOS 2007 with Mandriva 2008. Considering how fast the Linux world moves, comparing a fresh-off-the-press, Compiz Fusion-enabled distribution with an un-updated 6-month old one is hardly what we'd call fair. ^^;
Plus he might not have realized that PCLinuxOS is BASED on Mandriva, so whatever 2008 sports now, PCLOS-sama will sport soon enough. Hell! have I told you yet how much fun Compiz Fusion is? ^.^
QuoteOi. It piqued my interest for a moment when I read about that in Wikipedia. I dunno if I think that's a good idea, or bad...
Like I've said before, the Windows ship has sailed, for me. I don't care if they rip off Linux and slap a new name on it, I ain't going back to Windows, that is to say, if I stop using XP : |
[sarcastically] Awwwww,... so that means you're not gonna buy M$vell SUSE Linux then. ^____^;
Anyway, just recently I heard a very nasty rumor that XP may be pulled off the market early next year. Seems a bit.... "suicidal"... on M$ part, so I doubt the validity of this.
Still, I'd keep my ear out for any such word from official sources. M$ certainly has the power, money and gaul to try a "shock and awe" approach to forced Vista converison. ^^;
Quote*dramatically*
Oh! If only you knew the epic rivalry between our two states! It hath cost many a man his pride, many a derogatory stereotypical joke has been flung...
...........................But you guys both look the same. T___T;
I mean seriously,... it's like Vermont is just a New Hampshire that did a 180 flip and gave itself a "Frenchier" name. ^^;
Added after 5 hours 5 minutes: ZOM-#$#%@#@-G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MULTICS-SAMA LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @V@http://www.kirps.com/web/main/_blog/all/mit-releases-the-sources-of-multics-the-father-of-unix.shtml
QuoteIf that's the case, then yeah, what a #@$%*#&#! >_<
Have you ever read it? It makes a few fairly good points, so long as one takes it with a grain of salt ;)
(I personally liked the part where he compared Unix to a human-engineered virus...and a car with no gauges...)
QuoteActually came across a similar situation recently, where a reviewer was trying to compare PCLinuxOS 2007 with Mandriva 2008. Considering how fast the Linux world moves, comparing a fresh-off-the-press, Compiz Fusion-enabled distribution with an un-updated 6-month old one is hardly what we'd call fair. ^^;
Plus he might not have realized that PCLinuxOS is BASED on Mandriva, so whatever 2008 sports now, PCLOS-sama will sport soon enough. Hell! have I told you yet how much fun Compiz Fusion is? ^.^
Hmmm...But there will always be somebody who tries to advocate their favorite OS by demeaning another one...
I've seen those screenshots you posted of Compiz Fusion! It looks incredible!
Lately I've kinda been on my whole less is more kick, however, so I probably won't venture to try it out until it comes to a distro I'm really interested in, like Ubuntu or something....(I wonder why Beryl never came with any of the Ubuntus....)
QuoteAnyway, just recently I heard a very nasty rumor that XP may be pulled off the market early next year. Seems a bit.... "suicidal"... on M$ part, so I doubt the validity of this.
Still, I'd keep my ear out for any such word from official sources. M$ certainly has the power, money and gaul to try a "shock and awe" approach to forced Vista converison. ^^;
Geez. Like I always say, I wouldn't put anything past them : |
Speaking of which, have you seen the new Mac commercial yet? Where PC guy is talking up Vista and then at the end he leans over to Mac guy and says something along the lines of, "do I really like Vista? No, I went back to XP weeks ago...so happy!"
And I was like, NO #^@&*#$ WAY! Finally, a Mac commercial that I can love!
Makes me wanna start a club, Mac Evangelists, Windows XP Zealots and Linux Fans Against Windows Vista (aka the MEWXPZLFAWV)
Quote...........................But you guys both look the same. T___T;
I mean seriously,... it's like Vermont is just a New Hampshire that did a 180 flip and gave itself a "Frenchier" name. ^^;
Yes, that's the way the untrained observer sees it ;)
I guess the differences are because there isn't a lot of tourism between the two states (even though we both have large tourism industries), we seem to attract a lot people from Mass. (mainly), RI, Conn., and NJ, so our state is somewhat more urban. That said, there's still a lot of very rural, mountainous areas...but VT is mostly rolling farmland...
QuoteZOM-#$#%@#@-G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MULTICS-SAMA LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @V@
http://www.kirps.com/web/main/_blog/all/mit-releases-the-sources-of-multics-the-father-of-unix.shtml
O________O
*Hears Beethoven's Fifth Symphony in background*
(^ that
is that really powerful song they use in the movies and stuff whenever all hell breaks loose, right ;) )
*real dramatically, looking up at the sky*
"Damn yoooooouuuu Plan 9-taaaaaaaaaannn!"
Quote from: "Bella"Makes me wanna start a club, Mac Evangelists, Windows XP Zealots and Linux Fans Against Windows Vista (aka the MEWXPZLFAWV)
The former Dischordian pope in me really wants there to be a club called MEWXPZLFAWV. The rest of me is quite amused by the idea, as well!
QuoteHave you ever read it? It makes a few fairly good points, so long as one takes it with a grain of salt
(I personally liked the part where he compared Unix to a human-engineered virus...and a car with no gauges...)
I'm sure at one point I might have come across it,... otherwise, it would have never occurred to me that UNIX was perceived rather poorly when it was first developed. Then again, it's not like there isn't ALWAYS a critic... for example, although you may like my work, it's not like I don't have an army of cretins wishing that I just rolled over and died. (that being said, don't mind if I act particularly rude to anyone,... what happens in PMs can't always stay in PMs you know.... -.-)
QuoteI've seen those screenshots you posted of Compiz Fusion! It looks incredible!
Fufu... all modesty aside, it is. ^__^
Course, that doesn't mean I'm going to throw dirt at Beryl, because technically speaking Compiz Fusion IS "Beryl 1.0" (they just agreed to keep the "Compiz" name, since it did come first). ^___^
All the stability of Compiz plus the killer plugins of Beryl make for a tasty blend of pure Win in the morning. ^.^
QuoteLately I've kinda been on my whole less is more kick, however, so I probably won't venture to try it out until it comes to a distro I'm really interested in, like Ubuntu or something....(I wonder why Beryl never came with any of the Ubuntus....)
Oh definitely, don't mind me. Eye candy can only do so much -- I'd rather you get better acquainted with FOSS programs instead, as that will help you down the road a lot more. Thanks to my 3ePC-chan, for example, I finally have a way to sit down on my spare time and learn The GIMP (still like Krita, though...) and OpenOffice (I've used it a lot, but not "u-s-e-d" it, if you know what I'm getting at). ^__^
There was great demand in the *Buntu commuity to get 7.04 hooked up with Beryl. However, at the time it was far too unstable to include it built-in (and believe me, just cause I provided pretty pics of Xubuntu+Beryl didn't mean all was always honkie-dorie in Desktop World). ^^;
On the other hand,... Compiz Fusion is a different story.
It is fast and stable enough to be usable as a preinstallation option, so............
These past October releases have seen a huge SPIKE in adoption of Compiz Fusion by the major Linux distros.
Mandriva and SUSE for one, but also.... yep, Ubuntu 7.10. ^___^
I even got to try it once,... sadly, it was on a laptop with crappy specs, so it behaved rather "funky". ^^;
QuoteSpeaking of which, have you seen the new Mac commercial yet? Where PC guy is talking up Vista and then at the end he leans over to Mac guy and says something along the lines of, "do I really like Vista? No, I went back to XP weeks ago...so happy!"
And I was like, NO #^@&*#$ WAY! Finally, a Mac commercial that I can love!
Makes me wanna start a club, Mac Evangelists, Windows XP Zealots and Linux Fans Against Windows Vista (aka the MEWXPZLFAWV)
*puts up no television sign above head, complete with ":(" face*
On the other hand, I did hear about them,... maybe I'll check them out on YouTube later. ^^
In any event, the MEWXPZLFAWV Club sounds like you desperately need to enable Sticky Keys, but the concept is cute. ^__^
At least the fact that we all mutually abhor Vista does make us,... partners.... ^.^
Watch out for the BSD Brigade, as they'll demand representation too. ^__^
QuoteYes, that's the way the untrained observer sees it
I guess the differences are because there isn't a lot of tourism between the two states (even though we both have large tourism industries), we seem to attract a lot people from Mass. (mainly), RI, Conn., and NJ, so our state is somewhat more urban. That said, there's still a lot of very rural, mountainous areas...but VT is mostly rolling farmland...
You have to admire an upstanding, educated citizen that takes the time to learn about her state. ^.^
QuoteO________O
*Hears Beethoven's Fifth Symphony in background*
(^ that is that really powerful song they use in the movies and stuff whenever all hell breaks loose, right )
Ahhh,... Beethoven's Fifth.... ^__^
If you're referring to "pampampampaaaaaaaaam pampampampuuuuuuuuum..." then probably. But the news of MULTICS' revival strikes me as a 9th Sympthony, 4th movement! ^____^
Or....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyyNxrj8z4E
[note, if you haven't watched this series, stop watching by the time you get to the boombox.... ^^']
Quote*real dramatically, looking up at the sky*
"Damn yoooooouuuu Plan 9-taaaaaaaaaannn!"
*C-chan imitates William Shatner*
*shakes*
*rattles*
*rolls*
999999999999999999999999999999999999!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^0^
*takes in deeper breath*
999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999!!!!!!!!!!!! ;^0^;
QuoteThe former Dischordian pope in me really wants there to be a club called MEWXPZLFAWV. The rest of me is quite amused by the idea, as well!
There you go! We have a follower. ^___^
I suppose it'd be a cute idea, although the resistance is tiny yet powerful. -v-
Then again, a nice logo featuring Mac-san, Linux-sama, and XP-san holding up a "No Vista" placcard is bound to gain some converts. ^__^
QuoteThe former Dischordian pope in me really wants there to be a club called MEWXPZLFAWV. The rest of me is quite amused by the idea, as well!
'Kay then, you our second member :P
QuoteI'm sure at one point I might have come across it,... otherwise, it would have never occurred to me that UNIX was perceived rather poorly when it was first developed. Then again, it's not like there isn't ALWAYS a critic... for example, although you may like my work, it's not like I don't have an army of cretins wishing that I just rolled over and died. (that being said, don't mind if I act particularly rude to anyone,... what happens in PMs can't always stay in PMs you know.... -.-)
You've got a point : |
Personally, I don't really care what anyone thinks of me/my work. Good if they like it, they can get lost if they don't ;)
QuoteThere was great demand in the *Buntu commuity to get 7.04 hooked up with Beryl. However, at the time it was far too unstable to include it built-in (and believe me, just cause I provided pretty pics of Xubuntu+Beryl didn't mean all was always honkie-dorie in Desktop World). ^^;
And what was up with the desktop effects feature? I remember stumbling across it, it sounded like a stripped-down version of Beryl or something.
There was a warning not to enable it as it could cause instability...I enabled it anyhow, but nothing ever happened...
QuoteOn the other hand, I did hear about them,... maybe I'll check them out on YouTube later. ^^
In any event, the MEWXPZLFAWV Club sounds like you desperately need to enable Sticky Keys, but the concept is cute. ^__^
At least the fact that we all mutually abhor Vista does make us,... partners.... ^.^
Watch out for the BSD Brigade, as they'll demand representation too. ^__^
You gotta give it a look :D
So, I'm guessing your member three of the MEWXPZLFAWV Club? And for the record, that's pronounced "Mewzipzlefawve" club XD
QuoteAhhh,... Beethoven's Fifth.... ^__^
If you're referring to "pampampampaaaaaaaaam pampampampuuuuuuuuum..." then probably. But the news of MULTICS' revival strikes me as a 9th Sympthony, 4th movement! ^____^
Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyyNxrj8z4E
[note, if you haven't watched this series, stop watching by the time you get to the boombox.... ^^']
^....Thanks for the spoiler alert...? ;)
*frightening orchestra music still playing in background*
No, I believe those are much too cheery! Or perhaps I am just thinking of Unix-sama's reaction to hearing this news O____O
(I guess hell breaking loose was the first image that came to mind hehee)
But knowing the *Nix-tans, I'm sure they goaded SCO-tan into telling Unix-sama or something :P I think nobody would want to be the bearer of the news that her biological mother, whom she put of of work, nearly killed, and destroyed the life of on a basis of being intentionally
worse than, and who she secretly admires and loves even though she's the complete opposite of has just been brought back from what was a sure death!
*Passes out*
That said, I have a few predictions about the aftermath of Multics sudden return from the grave...
*dons psychic head-scarf and grabs crystal ball*
Yeah, I'm a seer too. Betcha didn't know that ;)
The Multicians will become 60%
more insufferable now that they can say Multics still lives. A Multics mobile computer will even be built, and it will be able of fit in the back of an 18 wheeler!
There will soon be a series of "Get A Multics" TV ads, featuring a handsome, well-muscled man, next to a short, sour sociopath with a high-pitch voice, trying to convince us why Multics a much better OS than Unix when we want to run an OS that's older than half our known relatives,
and,
Now that Multics is open-source, in Sweden, a programmer by the name of Titus Lorvalds will develop an OS kernel by the name of Lultucs. It will feature a fat puffin bird as it's logo, and will be readily adopted by computer enthusiasts the world over, the most popular form being a north-African version of it. Several years and countless epic
Slashdot flamewars later, K-Mart will announce a line of low-price computers running Lultucs.
In other news, the fabric of the known universe will cease to exist.
O___________o
Just kidding!!!!
QuoteAnd what was up with the desktop effects feature? I remember stumbling across it, it sounded like a stripped-down version of Beryl or something.
There was a warning not to enable it as it could cause instability...I enabled it anyhow, but nothing ever happened...
If memory serves, those Desktop Effects are just your usual, run-of-the-mill, cheap desktop eyecandy like shadows and transparency effects and such. KDE4 plans to incorporate some really nice ones (so that people that can't run Beryl can at least savor some imitation 3D), but certainly the current KDE and Gnome don't have anything that will match a 3D desktop. At most, they end up looking like XP with its own fancy desktop eyecandy enabled.
QuoteYou gotta give it a look
So, I'm guessing your member three of the MEWXPZLFAWV Club? And for the record, that's pronounced "Mewzipzlefawve" club XD
So like,... can we fit in BSDers in there somehow? If I could promote FreeB-chan through inclusion in this hypothetical logo, then for SURE I'd make it so! ^v^
I won't even imagine what the final acronym would look like, though. O__O
QuoteNo, I believe those are much too cheery! Or perhaps I am just thinking of Unix-sama's reaction to hearing this news O____O
(I guess hell breaking loose was the first image that came to mind hehee)
I figured you might've. I for one am bathing in champagne from the news (and so is every Multician out there, I bet). ^___^
Anyway, back to the subject at hand,... if you want an excellent, tragic, dark, haunting song for UNIX-sama's reaction, might I recommend Mozart's Requiem Mass? Actual story is much more interesting, but even if you've only seen the movie "Amadeus", you'll see how well the circumstances fit like a glove here. ^___^
QuoteBut knowing the *Nix-tans, I'm sure they goaded SCO-tan into telling Unix-sama or something :P
Funny,... I was thinking the same thing, except with an intentionally-fixed game of Draw Straws. Since SCO-chan has degenerated into a raving lunatic of sorts, she becomes the butt end of a lot of mischief. ^^;
Now all we need is for Xenix to be miraculously open-sourced as well, so SHE can return from the grave and "reeducate" her wayward brat. ^.^
QuoteI think nobody would want to be the bearer of the news that her biological mother, whom she put of of work, nearly killed, and destroyed the life of on a basis of being intentionally worse than, and who she secretly admires and loves even though she's the complete opposite of has just been brought back from what was a sure death!
Don't forget one thing, though,... None of her children know this (or at least admit to doing so), so them reporting this is no different from reporting the usual daily enemy incursion. in fact, it'd probably be even more hilarious if SCO-chan,... expecting the usual swearing and thrown chairs with the news that daughter Plan 9-tan was raising the dead again... ended up being trapped in the same room with a mentally unstable UNIX-sama (oh yeah, you can bet that's hell). ^___^;
Quote*dons psychic head-scarf and grabs crystal ball*
Yeah, I'm a seer too. Betcha didn't know that
I call Shenanigans! You've been to the future with Leopard-sama, so I know you're cheating! ^__^
Now give me back ma fish bowl! ^0^
QuoteThe Multicians will become 60% more insufferable now that they can say Multics still lives. A Multics mobile computer will even be built, and it will be able of fit in the back of an 18 wheeler!
Well the Multicians did mention on their website that Multics COULD be reengineered for modern application. A lot of that could be fanboy/girl talk of course, but one can never underestimate the power of rabid fanboys and fangirls. ^__^
QuoteThere will soon be a series of "Get A Multics" TV ads, featuring a handsome, well-muscled man, next to a short, sour sociopath with a high-pitch voice, trying to convince us why Multics a much better OS than Unix when we want to run an OS that's older than half our known relatives,
*puts two and two together*
Hmmm,... sounds suspiciously like one of those IBM commercials that did WONDERS for OS/2..... `v'
QuoteNow that Multics is open-source, in Sweden, a programmer by the name of Titus Lorvalds will develop an OS kernel by the name of Lultucs. It will feature a fat puffin bird as it's logo, and will be readily adopted by computer enthusiasts the world over, the most popular form being a north-African version of it. Several years and countless epic Slashdot flamewars later, K-Mart will announce a line of low-price computers running Lultucs.
So will there also be a company called ZCO claiming to own the copyrights to the original Multics, and will act as a mercenary to Microvell in order to spread baseless FUD about Lultucs usage? Ahhhh,... how history doth repeat itself. ^____^
QuoteIn other news, the fabric of the known universe will cease to exist.
I knew it!! You destroyed an alternate timeline while you were out with Leopard-sama, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU?!! `0'
*sighs and shakes head* Ahhhh Bella Bella Bella,... WHAT am I gonna DO with YOU? ^.^
In any event, speaking of raising the dead, here's a little revival of Multics-sama's great great great great great great great grandmother:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7094881.stm
QuoteIf memory serves, those Desktop Effects are just your usual, run-of-the-mill, cheap desktop eyecandy like shadows and transparency effects and such. KDE4 plans to incorporate some really nice ones (so that people that can't run Beryl can at least savor some imitation 3D), but certainly the current KDE and Gnome don't have anything that will match a 3D desktop. At most, they end up looking like XP with its own fancy desktop eyecandy enabled.
That sounds about right....
QuoteSo like,... can we fit in BSDers in there somehow? If I could promote FreeB-chan through inclusion in this hypothetical logo, then for SURE I'd make it so! ^v^
I won't even imagine what the final acronym would look like, though. O__O
We could add "Unixians", which would cover all the Unix based OSs, or if that's to broad we could always just put BSD fans. Or daemon-worshipers!
QuoteI figured you might've. I for one am bathing in champagne from the news (and so is every Multician out there, I bet). ^___^
Gaaah!
Well, I say good for them :) Hopefully they can try and get some use out of it and adapt it for today's uses.
Though, on the OS-tan level I'm a bit freaked out...
I've seen one to many episodes of FMA to trust those who have been brought back from the dead...
or maybe that was Pushing Daisies?QuoteAnyway, back to the subject at hand,... if you want an excellent, tragic, dark, haunting song for UNIX-sama's reaction, might I recommend Mozart's Requiem Mass? Actual story is much more interesting, but even if you've only seen the movie "Amadeus", you'll see how well the circumstances fit like a glove here. ^___^
Yes, Mozart's Requiem fits quite well too!
And that is quite a history behind it...
QuoteFunny,... I was thinking the same thing, except with an intentionally-fixed game of Draw Straws. Since SCO-chan has degenerated into a raving lunatic of sorts, she becomes the butt end of a lot of mischief. ^^;
Now all we need is for Xenix to be miraculously open-sourced as well, so SHE can return from the grave and "reeducate" her wayward brat. ^.^
Ahhh, being the Unix family whipping boy...small price to pay for being totally pwned by Novell ;)
As for Xenix (and VMS for the matter) being open sourced, I still don't see how that can happen. VMS is still doing fine at HP, and Xenix...well, it's still M$'s (or is it SCO's?), and either way that can't bode well for it.
Multics wasn't making anyone anything, and was basically a good OS just sitting on the shelf, so I can see why MIT opened it....
QuoteDon't forget one thing, though,... None of her children know this (or at least admit to doing so), so them reporting this is no different from reporting the usual daily enemy incursion
I was trying to get around to that, but tis quite difficult saying so much on one breath without passing out :P
Although, you'd think the cat's gonna get out of the bag soon...I mean, every Multics site from here to Timbuktu seems to mention this fact no less than two or three dozen times...
Quotein fact, it'd probably be even more hilarious if SCO-chan,... expecting the usual swearing and thrown chairs with the news that daughter Plan 9-tan was raising the dead again... ended up being trapped in the same room with a mentally unstable UNIX-sama (oh yeah, you can bet that's hell). ^___^;
Thrown chairs? Swearing? My Lord! Unix-sama
really is a New Jerseyite!
*Sorry, I couldn't resist saying that!*
No, I think that's be a befitting punishment for SCO-tan ;006
*SCO-tan+Slackware-chan+Unix-sama....comic gold!*
Quote*puts two and two together*
Hmmm,... sounds suspiciously like one of those IBM commercials that did WONDERS for OS/2..... `v'
Was that sarcasm?
(I'm never sure, computers suck at sarcasm XD)
QuoteSo will there also be a company called ZCO claiming to own the copyrights to the original Multics, and will act as a mercenary to Microvell in order to spread baseless FUD about Lultucs usage? Ahhhh,... how history doth repeat itself. ^____^
Damn...I was trying to add a SCO reference, but couldn't quite :P
QuoteI knew it!! You destroyed an alternate timeline while you were out with Leopard-sama, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU?!! `0'
*sighs and shakes head* Ahhhh Bella Bella Bella,... WHAT am I gonna DO with YOU? ^.^
You caught me there. I was trying to go back to the 80s to invest in M$ stock!
QuoteIn any event, speaking of raising the dead, here's a little revival of Multics-sama's great great great great great great great grandmother:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7094881.stm
*Eureka!*
I know what's going on! With the release of Vista, they've reached the known bounds of usefulness in modern OSs! So they're trying to go back and see if any ancient computers will have more usefulness!
*pretty soon we'll hear of an attempt to hook the Antikythera mechanism up to broadband, or install Linux on an abacus...*
QuoteWe could add "Unixians", which would cover all the Unix based OSs, or if that's to broad we could always just put BSD fans. Or daemon-worshipers!
I kinda favor Unixians a little,... sound like something out of the Dune universe. ^^
So then we can make it MEWXPZLFUXAWV,.............. although suddenly I'm now reminded me of the problem with calling Pacman by its original name of "Puckman". ^^;
In any event, maybe I can make something neat over the weekend with this,....... although I seriously should stop doing so many side projects. ^____^;
Okay, I'll keep it simple....
QuoteI've seen one to many episodes of FMA to trust those who have been brought back from the dead...
Oh right! Almost forgot to tell you.....
I'm starting to watch Full Metal Alchemist!!! ^v^
*wags tail as he expects pat on the head*
Yeah, you were right, there's enough short jokes on it to definitely be a nice way to fight back Lovely Compex withdrawal. ^___^
Between that and Mahou Sensei Negima, I think I'll be fine. ^.^
QuoteAnd that is quite a history behind it...
Very,... "Unixian", isn't it? `v'
QuoteAs for Xenix (and VMS for the matter) being open sourced, I still don't see how that can happen. VMS is still doing fine at HP, and Xenix...well, it's still M$'s (or is it SCO's?), and either way that can't bode well for it.
Yeah.... admittedly that was a case of brain flatulence on my part. It was only long after I wrote this that I remember,... it's SCO that owns it! Oh great, mom and daughter are doomed forever. T___T;
It's likelier for OS/2 to ever be open sourced than Xenix, and fat chance of even THAT happening. ^^;
QuoteMultics wasn't making anyone anything, and was basically a good OS just sitting on the shelf, so I can see why MIT opened it....
Darn,... that probably means Amiga-san won't get opened any time soon,... what with the poor excuse for a current owner pretending like they'll do something tangible with her when all they're doing is hindering progress. T__T
QuoteAlthough, you'd think the cat's gonna get out of the bag soon...I mean, every Multics site from here to Timbuktu seems to mention this fact no less than two or three dozen times...
Fufufu.... they lie!
Lie I say!
Unix-sama and Multics are related not one bit! Nope,... No relation at all! ^__^
Big Sister is Watching you! 2 + 2 = 5!!
Carry on, citizen. -v-
QuoteWas that sarcasm?
(I'm never sure, computers suck at sarcasm XD)
Course. The only good OS/2 commercial was, in fact, a Japanese one. ^___^;
Quote*Eureka!*
I know what's going on! With the release of Vista, they've reached the known bounds of usefulness in modern OSs! So they're trying to go back and see if any ancient computers will have more usefulness!
*pretty soon we'll hear of an attempt to hook the Antikythera mechanism up to broadband, or install Linux on an abacus...*
Well point of fact,... I have seen Linux installed on a toaster. ^^;
QuoteI kinda favor Unixians a little,... sound like something out of the Dune universe. ^^
So then we can make it MEWXPZLFUXAWV,.............. although suddenly I'm now reminded me of the problem with calling Pacman by its original name of "Puckman". ^^;
In any event, maybe I can make something neat over the weekend with this,....... although I seriously should stop doing so many side projects. ^____^;
Okay, I'll keep it simple....
Whaaa...? Did you just say what i think you did...?
QuoteI'm starting to watch Full Metal Alchemist!!! ^v^
*wags tail as he expects pat on the head*
Yeah, you were right, there's enough short jokes on it to definitely be a nice way to fight back Lovely Compex withdrawal. ^___^
Between that and Mahou Sensei Negima, I think I'll be fine. ^.^
Yay!!!
Yep, I figured you'd like a main-character whose shorter than all the female ones :p And even his little (or I should say younger) brother...
QuoteYeah.... admittedly that was a case of brain flatulence on my part. It was only long after I wrote this that I remember,... it's SCO that owns it! Oh great, mom and daughter are doomed forever. T___T;
It's likelier for OS/2 to ever be open sourced than Xenix, and fat chance of even THAT happening. ^^;
*starts playing worlds smallest violin for SCO-tan*
Nah, it's kinda sad Xenix had such a bad fate, not to mention such a brat for a daughter.
Oh, why couldn't M$ have held onto Xenix :..(
(but I Guess then we'd have never gotten our VMS-based NT)
QuoteDarn,... that probably means Amiga-san won't get opened any time soon,... what with the poor excuse for a current owner pretending like they'll do something tangible with her when all they're doing is hindering progress. T__T
Poor Miggy!!! I'm getting tired of having to say that : |
Maybe if they did have enough initiative, they would make something out of her. Either that, or maybe open sourcery just wasn't her destiny.
QuoteFufufu.... they lie!
Lie I say!
Unix-sama and Multics are related not one bit! Nope,... No relation at all! ^__^
Big Sister is Watching you! 2 + 2 = 5!!
Carry on, citizen. -v-
If I didn't know better, I'd think they were just trying to be the 'victims' (aka, oh, Unix ripped us off!)
Added after 1 minutes: Oh yeah, and if you didn't realize this from reading the 28 other threads I mentioned this in...
I'M WRITING FROM UBUNTU!!!!! YIPPEE!!!
QuoteWhaaa...? Did you just say what i think you did...?
Nope. Just a harmless figment of your wild, DEC-centric imagination. ^^
QuoteOh, why couldn't M$ have held onto Xenix :..(
(but I Guess then we'd have never gotten our VMS-based NT)
Instead we'd have a Unix-based NT, no? ^^'
But get this,... maybe then OSX would then be,.... *gasp*... VMS-based?
Mac OSV.... -v-
*imagines Pu-chan with sexy leather wear and giant sword*
*frothes in the mouth* @v@
*swoons*
QuoteMaybe if they did have enough initiative, they would make something out of her. Either that, or maybe open sourcery just wasn't her destiny.
There's an old wise saying: "Martyrdonm is a dish best served warm, with a side of Miggy". -.-
QuoteOh yeah, and if you didn't realize this from reading the 28 other threads I mentioned this in...
I'M WRITING FROM UBUNTU!!!!! YIPPEE!!!
*sighs with pride* I remember when Bella-chan was just thiiiis tiny... taking her first steps with Puppy-chan. -v-
And now look at her,... typing in Ubuntu and stuff! ^___^
Very well,... I shall make you that MEWXPZLF*XAWV logo as a kind of graduation gift of sorts.
[seriously] ^__~
QuoteInstead we'd have a Unix-based NT, no? ^^'
But get this,... maybe then OSX would then be,.... *gasp*... VMS-based?
Mac OSV.... -v-
*imagines Pu-chan with sexy leather wear and giant sword*
*frothes in the mouth* @v@
*swoons*
*hears Twilight Zone music*
Or, even better, they'd both be Unix like and be cousins! Or....sisters!
QuoteThere's an old wise saying: "Martyrdonm is a dish best served warm, with a side of Miggy". -.-
That shouldn't be funny, but...
I guess being ahead of your time can either be a really good asset or a bad liability : |
Quote*sighs with pride* I remember when Bella-chan was just thiiiis tiny... taking her first steps with Puppy-chan. -v-
And now look at her,... typing in Ubuntu and stuff! ^___^
Very well,... I shall make you that MEWXPZLF*XAWV logo as a kind of graduation gift of sorts.
[seriously] ^__~
At any rate, Ubuntu's been the easiest to work with....
Still trying to figure out how we're to say our club name. Now with the asterisk, I'm not sure if that helps or hurts O__o
*thinks*
Mewzipzlef-Unix-or-not-awve...?
Quote from: "Bella"Still trying to figure out how we're to say our club name. Now with the asterisk, I'm not sure if that helps or hurts O__o
*thinks*
Mewzipzlef-Unix-or-not-awve...?
MEWXPZULFAWV, maybe? This would place Unixians before Linux Fans. (Possibly pronounced,
Mewks-puz-ul-fauv(-e))
...or maybe, to add extra consonants, change Unixians to Unix Disciples (MEWXPZLFUDAWV, possibly pronounced
Mewks-puz-ul-fud-auv(-e))
QuoteInstead we'd have a Unix-based NT, no? ^^'
GASP!! Unix based Inu-t! I can only imagine what that'd be like..
QuoteBut get this,... maybe then OSX would then be,.... *gasp*... VMS-based?
Mac OSV.... -v-
*imagines Pu-chan with sexy leather wear and giant sword*
*frothes in the mouth* @v@
*swoons*
Does this mean Leopard-chan gets a similar outfit? *eager stare*
QuoteMEWXPZULFAWV, maybe? This would place Unixians before Linux Fans. (Possibly pronounced, Mewks-puz-ul-fauv(-e))
...or maybe, to add extra consonants, change Unixians to Unix Disciples (MEWXPZLFUDAWV, possibly pronounced Mewks-puz-ul-fud-auv(-e))
AHA!!!!!!!! I've always DREAMED of inundating the world in yet MORE FUD!!!!!!! ^v^
(fyi, FUD = "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt")
SOLD!!!!!! ^___^
*slams gavel*
Even though I'm not technically the club leader, I'm usurping the position momentarily to say that MEWXPZLFUDAWV sounds like a winner! ^.^
Okay, I'll start to work immediately on that logo,... just waiting for my finalized CE-tan/DSL sibling drawing to render. ^___^
QuoteDoes this mean Leopard-chan gets a similar outfit? *eager stare*
Don't just eagerly stare at her. Add her to your avatar! She demands a permanent spot in your avatar! ^0^
(http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/images/4/4a/MacOSX_Leopard1.gif)(http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/images/0/07/MacOSX_Leopard2.gif)(http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/images/c/c7/MacOSX_Leopard3.gif)
*C-chan begs* Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease? ;v;
*looks at Homeko Monster*
*shudders*
*continues begging*
BTW, ever thought about joining a very prestigious new club? it'll be lots of fun! ^_______^
QuoteDoes this mean Leopard-chan gets a similar outfit? *eager stare*
Leather or not, she time travels @____@ So she's incredibly awesome to me.
But I have a feeling you'd like the drawing I'm working on of Leopard-chan...
QuoteAHA!!!!!!!! I've always DREAMED of inundating the world in yet MORE FUD!!!!!!! ^v^
(fyi, FUD = "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt")
SOLD!!!!!! ^___^
*slams gavel*
Even though I'm not technically the club leader, I'm usurping the position momentarily to say that MEWXPZLFUDAWV sounds like a winner! ^.^
Sounds right to me. FUD and Vista go together like cherries and sundaes :P
Quote*C-chan begs* Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease? ;v;
*looks at Homeko Monster*
*shudders*
*continues begging*
Oh come on. So she's a yaoi artist. And she's terribly antagonistic. And she has the hots for her brother. Does that make her a bad person?
Admittedly, I'd probably hate her if she wasn't the mascot for the only Windows OS I've ever liked (but I've kinda adopted XP Pro-tan XD)
QuoteBTW, ever thought about joining a very prestigious new club? it'll be lots of fun! ^_______^
Yeah, please join! We've even got an opening in the secretary position, too!
Is there room for another member in the MEWXPZLFUDAWV club?
What the heck?
I posted here, I sware I did. I even saw it go through.
But when I come back, My post and Avatar are gone.
Ah well, both are fixed now..
Anyway...
Thanks for showing me those avatars C-chan.
*Changes his avatar to the super cute present time Leopard-tan*
Leopard-chan!! *glomps*
On an OSX note.
I was browsing through the Mac image gallery when I noticed..
..How delightfully moe and cute Puma-chan is :D
-with all due respect-
(and don't worry C-chan I'm not trying to steal her from you)
The MEWXPZLFUDAWV
Mac Evangelists, Windows XP Zealots Linux Fans and Unix Disciples Against Windows Vista club?
Hmmmm...... I'd love to join. ^-^
Consider the club +1 Fox.
(To everyone: I'm sorry about the lack of posts by me recently, I've just been really busy as of late. But I promise to get on the ball and start posting more)
QuoteAdmittedly, I'd probably hate her if she wasn't the mascot for the only Windows OS I've ever liked (but I've kinda adopted XP Pro-tan XD)
Thanks to this picture,...
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/os-tans/group/normal_1118508553597.jpg)
...I admit a mild crush on XP Pro-tan, so I approve of your preference for her over the "other one"..... ¬v¬
QuoteYeah, please join! We've even got an opening in the secretary position, too!
Still working on that logo, btw. ^.^
QuoteIs there room for another member in the MEWXPZLFUDAWV club?
*wags tail* o-k-a-y!! We are growing major traction here! ^v^
QuoteThanks for showing me those avatars C-chan.
*Changes his avatar to the super cute present time Leopard-tan*
KITSUNE-SAN!!!!!!! ^V^
*kisses avatar 25 times*
Welcome back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^-^
QuoteOn an OSX note.
I was browsing through the Mac image gallery when I noticed..
..How delightfully moe and cute Puma-chan is
-with all due respect-
(and don't worry C-chan I'm not trying to steal her from you)
*hugs Pu-chan protectively* ¬¬
.........Sou......
I suppose....... in the spirit of sharing,...... I can lend Pu-chan to you.................. for about 10 minutes..... ¬v¬
On the other hand, there is an ALTERNATE Pu-chan that's like abandoned somewhere in +Nijiura+ and needs a good home. Blond hair, pigtailed and violent,... trust me, you'd go bonkers for her.... ^___^
*continues hogging Pu-chan all to himself* ^o^
Quote(To everyone: I'm sorry about the lack of posts by me recently, I've just been really busy as of late. But I promise to get on the ball and start posting more)
No problemo. We're all part-timer OS-tanverse builders here! ^___^
Quote...I admit a mild crush on XP Pro-tan, so I approve of your preference for her over the "other one"..... ¬v¬
That's a new one, she's usually depicted as a cow ;)
QuoteStill working on that logo, btw. ^.^
Cool!
Can't wait to see what it's gonna look like!
Wow, had a very rough day, so couldn't get inspired with this one until very late in the evening. -.-
Suffice to say, it's half-done. ^___^
Just need XP Pro-san and as yet undisclosed Mac-tan. ^.^
(http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/MEWXPZLFUDAWV_logo.png)
Don't worry about the Vista banner, as it will look a LOT more messed up when we're done with it. -v-
Now then, better put this hideous day behind me and rest.... -.-
Promise to reply to y'all tomorrow! ^__^
*flops over keyboard*
*snore* -___- Zzzzzzzzzz
FreeBSD-tan looks so adorable eating the banner! :D
And can you please give me a hint who the Mac-tan to appear in the logo is? Pretty please? :D
QuoteWow, had a very rough day, so couldn't get inspired with this one until very late in the evening. -.-
Sorry to hear that. : | Hope things are better now.
QuoteSuffice to say, it's half-done. ^___^
Just need XP Pro-san and as yet undisclosed Mac-tan. ^.^
Oooooh!!! Cute! I'm really loving Linux-sama...well, I've always liked Linux-sama, but there's just something about her...I think it has to do with her hair...
Ahhh, I'll have to draw her with blueish hair someday, since I'm starting to like that version...
And I concur with Aurora, FreeBSD-chan is adorable ^_^ And she will eat anything, won't she?
QuoteAnd can you please give me a hint who the Mac-tan to appear in the logo is? Pretty please?
*tries to start group chant*
A Mac OSX-tan! A Mac OSX-tan! A Mac OSX-tan!
*continues on*
Now for some...
Random Unix-tan conjecture!!!
I was recently looking at some Unix-like timelines when I had an odd thought come to me...
How would Linux-sama be related to the fabled, never-released GNU-tan? I mean, I know she was raised by Minix-sensei and put out on her own and all, and that according to Kami-Tux Linux-sama and GNU-tan would be less than friendly toward one another...
But Linux is supposed to be directly descended to GNU:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Unix-history.svg
....momma? ;015
Oh yes, and any thoughts on a perspective AIX, UnixWare or IRIX-tan? I know IRIX is known to have a very advanced file system or something, but that's about it...and UnixWare I have a slight character idea for, since she's had run-ins with NT-tan, hates her quite a lot, and is probably one of the most direct decedents of the Goddess (at least by the way the timeline makes it look...)
QuoteSorry to hear that. : | Hope things are better now.
Yeah, I'm feeling a little better after the wake. It's nice to get back into more charming things,... unfortunately, got back home late again so what should've been a couple-hours exercise turned into a multi-day thing. How very annoying. -v-'
In any event, managed to add in Tiger-sama at least:
(http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/MEWXPZLFUDAWV_logo2.png)
Yeah, chose her cause Pu-chan (as much as I love her to bits) isn't particularly iconic, Mac-tan is drawn too much, and Sonata-sensei is too old. ^^'
Though Leopard-san is out, Tiger is still the de facto leader of the group. -v-
Also, just wanted to let you guys know that this logo is in fact "Open Sauced", so feel free to dig in as well! ^v^
http://ostan-collections.net/downloads.php?view=detail&id=102 Added after 56 seconds: Anyway, my battery's drained for the day, so again,... like always,... I hope to reply to y'all tomorrow. -v-
*snore* -______- Zzzzz
Added after 10 hours 40 minutes: QuoteOooooh!!! Cute! I'm really loving Linux-sama...well, I've always liked Linux-sama, but there's just something about her...I think it has to do with her hair...
Ahhh, I'll have to draw her with blueish hair someday, since I'm starting to like that version...
And I concur with Aurora, FreeBSD-chan is adorable And she will eat anything, won't she?
Don't get me wrong, I do love Juzo-kun's Linux-tans. ^__^
However, my only gripe was that their hair was all brown and desperately needed a little more variety. So back in the day, I promised myself that if I ever draw variants of their designs, I'd default to the original hair colors used by the same Japanese Linux variants.
Aurora-san already did that for Red Hat-tan and Fedora-tan, and I did that for GNU/Linux-san before in her chibi rendition, and now again here (giving her a darker shade of purple). But I think she has more "Moe"appeal in your helmetless, diplomatic look, so hence why I'll migrate to that one going forward. ^.^
Further down the road, though, we will have to replace the Beryl cape with a Compiz Fusion one. ^___^
(http://blog.napyfab.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/compiz_fusion_logos.jpg)
QuoteHow would Linux-sama be related to the fabled, never-released GNU-tan? I mean, I know she was raised by Minix-sensei and put out on her own and all, and that according to Kami-Tux Linux-sama and GNU-tan would be less than friendly toward one another...
But Linux is supposed to be directly descended to GNU:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Unix-history.svg
....momma?
For a second there, I thought you meant GNU-Hurd-tan (which is the one Kami-Tux said didn't get along well with Linux-san).
You can look at the GNU website here:
http://www.gnu.org/
But it sort of ties back to the major issue of confusion with "GNU/Linux", in that we've come to assume that "Linux" is the entire operating system when it really is just the kernel. The huge, enormous hive of free software that's built around it and gives it its teeth is in fact the "operating system".
Because of this, I'm hesitent to make this entity known as "Gnu" an actual OS-tan. But since some sort of personification is required to explain the union between GNU + Linux, I imagined that during the young Linux-chan's early travels she encountered a living suit that would wonder the lands looking for a worthy master (or perhaps waiting for one in some RPG-inspired cave). Not only does she pass the trials, but she does so using only her wits (in lieu of her then poor strength) and without ever losing sight of her good intentions. This inspires GNU to the point where It not only cedes the suit to her (you know,... that famous helmet, spear, etc), but It also agrees to accompany her in her travels. ^^
....
....Just so you know, my omission of the "Kami-tux" creature from any of my conjectures of Linux-sama's youth was PURELY intentional for this very reason. ^^
QuoteOh yes, and any thoughts on a perspective AIX, UnixWare or IRIX-tan? I know IRIX is known to have a very advanced file system or something, but that's about it...and UnixWare I have a slight character idea for, since she's had run-ins with NT-tan, hates her quite a lot, and is probably one of the most direct decedents of the Goddess (at least by the way the timeline makes it look...)
I'm sensing some deja vu for some reason. ^___^
Oh well,... even now, I'm drawing a blank on AIX and Unixware. IRIX-tan, though, I want to make her look OBSCENELY futuristic (perhaps more so than Adamantix-tan), although this is mostly to impress as she's not really any more powerful than your run-of-the-mill Unix-tan. She's a sucker for style and visual effects, and her attacks are laden with so much wasteful eye-candy they'd make most modern Final Fantasy Summoning spells look 8-bit. ^^;
Probably a great running gag too,... imagine IRIX-tan standing up to UNIX-sama (disrespectful brat that she is) and starts summoning one of her most powerful spells. But rather than stop her, Unix-sama pulls up a chair, dons some 3D glasses, sips some tea and enjoys the show. This visual acid trip goes on for about 15 minutes...
...and in the split second that IRIX-tan unleashes all hell....
...UNIX-sama flicks her in the nose (cancelling the spell), and pulls her away by the ear.
QuoteYeah, I'm feeling a little better after the wake. It's nice to get back into more charming things,... unfortunately, got back home late again so what should've been a couple-hours exercise turned into a multi-day thing. How very annoying. -v-'
In any event, managed to add in Tiger-sama at least:
I always say, "When in doubt, go with Tiger-sama!" ;010
Still waiting to see my adopted mascot-of-my-OS-tan, XP Pro-chan! I just wanna know how she'll be defiling that flag ;006
QuoteThough Leopard-san is out, Tiger is still the de facto leader of the group. -v-
Bahh, she's to busy messing with the fabric of existence to lead groups ;)
QuoteAlso, just wanted to let you guys know that this logo is in fact "Open Sauced", so feel free to dig in as well! ^v^
Woohoo! Open sauce! Next best thing to cranberry sauce!
*either that's an inside joke, or you've taken to talking in an ever-so-elegant Bostonian accent*
QuoteDon't get me wrong, I do love Juzo-kun's Linux-tans. ^__^
However, my only gripe was that their hair was all brown and desperately needed a little more variety. So back in the day, I promised myself that if I ever draw variants of their designs, I'd default to the original hair colors used by the same Japanese Linux variants.
I agree with the variety thing...the only thing I disliked about them...
QuoteFurther down the road, though, we will have to replace the Beryl cape with a Compiz Fusion one. ^___^
You mean red and black?
QuoteFor a second there, I thought you meant GNU-Hurd-tan (which is the one Kami-Tux said didn't get along well with Linux-san).
Oh yeah, I guess I did get the two mixed up....I realized this about an hour after posting that >////<
QuoteBut it sort of ties back to the major issue of confusion with "GNU/Linux", in that we've come to assume that "Linux" is the entire operating system when it really is just the kernel. The huge, enormous hive of free software that's built around it and gives it its teeth is in fact the "operating system".
I know that...
But gees, that GNU site is confusing >___< If I can get this straight, they made everything but the kernel? I always assumed the kernel was the first thing they developed and worked upward from there...
And do they eventually want to make their own GNU OS? Or what...?
QuoteBecause of this, I'm hesitent to make this entity known as "Gnu" an actual OS-tan. But since some sort of personification is required to explain the union between GNU + Linux, I imagined that during the young Linux-chan's early travels she encountered a living suit that would wonder the lands looking for a worthy master (or perhaps waiting for one in some RPG-inspired cave). Not only does she pass the trials, but she does so using only her wits (in lieu of her then poor strength) and without ever losing sight of her good intentions. This inspires GNU to the point where It not only cedes the suit to her (you know,... that famous helmet, spear, etc), but It also agrees to accompany her in her travels. ^^
That sounds like an...incredibly quirky tale...!
Yes, that sounds like something that could only happen to Linux-chan :P
Quote....Just so you know, my omission of the "Kami-tux" creature from any of my conjectures of Linux-sama's youth was PURELY intentional for this very reason. ^^
O__________O
QuoteI'm sensing some deja vu for some reason. ^___^
Oh well,... even now, I'm drawing a blank on AIX and Unixware.
AIX I've got no ideas for, but I think Unixware has a lot of good material for a -tan...
QuoteIRIX-tan, though, I want to make her look OBSCENELY futuristic (perhaps more so than Adamantix-tan), although this is mostly to impress as she's not really any more powerful than your run-of-the-mill Unix-tan. She's a sucker for style and visual effects, and her attacks are laden with so much wasteful eye-candy they'd make most modern Final Fantasy Summoning spells look 8-bit. ^^;
Cooooool :D
Although I bet some Compiz-fusion or Beryl decked out Linux-tan might have a debate over who posses the more flashy, yes-less-that-useful fashions XD
QuoteProbably a great running gag too,... imagine IRIX-tan standing up to UNIX-sama (disrespectful brat that she is) and starts summoning one of her most powerful spells. But rather than stop her, Unix-sama pulls up a chair, dons some 3D glasses, sips some tea and enjoys the show. This visual acid trip goes on for about 15 minutes...
...and in the split second that IRIX-tan unleashes all hell....
...UNIX-sama flicks her in the nose (cancelling the spell), and pulls her away by the ear.
...and in the background, there's Slackware-chan whining about how Unix-sama
never gives her this kind of attention ;)
Anyhow, that's funny! Who would have known Unix-sama would attract this kind of comedy?
Although I do have to say the *nix family has an almost disturbing amount of pompous little brats XD
As for those spells...I assume she uses "Indigo Magic"? And is this also a reference to IRIX once being used in a lot of computer animation applications?
Okay, y'all know the drill! Finished for the day, but too tired to talk or reply to other threads. Hopefully can get to them tomorrow. -.-
(http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/MEWXPZLFUDAWV_logo3.png)
And of course, the sauce:
http://ostan-collections.net/downloads.php?view=detail&id=102
Which will probably be needed eventually since i hit a wall as to what shape the logo should have, as well as the positioning of the wording. And the Vista banner needs folds and rips. ^^
Okay, g'night all. -.-
*snore* -___- Zzzzzzzz
Hmmm, methinks my 'need to reply to' collectors are FAIL, I completely overlooked this thread. Baka Tsubashi!
So, MEWXPZLFUDAWV eh? Is that secretary position still open? ^.^'
That's a great logo you've got there senpai! All this vector work going on; I really need to fix my inkscape!
MEWXPZLFUDAWV! WUT.
I hereby apply for the postition of Resident Minister of Propaganda. HEIL SEMPAI! ONE MEWXPZLFUDAWV, ONE PIG! HEIL SEMPAI!
*has watched an Opera about the Nazis lately, and thus is a bit affected*
!
THIS IS WHY YOU WILL NEVER GET NICE THINGS
be happy that I'm too occupied with my preparations for the Chemistry final exam to pay attention to your actions...
Otherwise I'd have already started drawing a Tiger... in the receiving end of a massive beamspam. Or in more painful situations.
QuoteOkay, y'all know the drill! Finished for the day, but too tired to talk or reply to other threads. Hopefully can get to them tomorrow. -.-
Cute!
You gotta love the look on XP-tan's face ^_^ But...*gasp*...I have to say I think Linux-sama's the cutest one here!
QuoteSo, MEWXPZLFUDAWV eh? Is that secretary position still open? ^.^'
You and Aurora can be the secretaries of Mac affairs ;)
QuoteThat's a great logo you've got there senpai! All this vector work going on; I really need to fix my inkscape!
Why not just re-download it?
QuoteMEWXPZLFUDAWV! WUT.
I hereby apply for the postition of Resident Minister of Propaganda. HEIL SEMPAI! ONE MEWXPZLFUDAWV, ONE PIG! HEIL SEMPAI!
Minister of Propaganda? Sure, why not :P
Quote!
THIS IS WHY YOU WILL NEVER GET NICE THINGS
be happy that I'm too occupied with my preparations for the Chemistry final exam to pay attention to your actions...
Oh, now, we're a peace-promoting group...and I'd say a somewhat satirical one at that ;)
QuoteOh, now, we're a peace-promoting group...and I'd say a somewhat satirical one at that
You aren't getting peace like this T_T
>: /
Bwahaha! ^v^
Not to worry, Bella-san. ^^
Ol Darknight is just in another one of his "Dark Moods". ^.^
And through brooding, chemistry-worn, lurking-impaired eyes, everything looks like a declaration of war, even cute little clubs made by you, with a cute little logo that's a gift from me to you, featuring his cute ex-sweetheart XP Pro-tan. ^__^
I could sneeze this instant and he'd want to draw blood. ^.^
Don't worry,... it'll pass in time, and he'll either be happily playing with his online Multiplayer cruiser/battleship/thingie, or will be productively DRAWING something to try and even the odds. ^____^
Now then, time to make me rounds. I'll be right back.... -v-
It doesn't look like a declaration of war...that logo its a declaration of
WAR T_T
Also, my previous OS was not XP-pro :P. Homeko FTW.
At least she's faithful to the windows lineage, unlike her dissident, traitor sister ;_;
*scraps Tiger-tan and OS/2 sketchs*
Quote
I could sneeze this instant
BIOLOGICAL WARFARE!See?! I told everyone that we couldn't trust pigs! but no one heard...;_;
Fufufu.... ^.^
<___<
....
>___>
......
*sneeze sneeze sneeze* >V<
*douses nose with pepper*
*SNEEZE!!!!* >///<
Oh yeah, I could have a lot of fun with this. ^_____^
QuoteCute!
You gotta love the look on XP-tan's face But...*gasp*...I have to say I think Linux-sama's the cutest one here!
I don't know. She is pretty cute, but that BSD Devilette... ^__^
QuoteYou and Aurora can be the secretaries of Mac affairs
Yay!!! *Rejoices* ^o^
QuoteWhy not just re-download it?
Well, you see... I tried (and succeeded) in compiling a completely native version of inkscape (and gimp for that matter) on Sazaki-chan (my mac mini). Unfortunately, being as stupid as I am, I tried to tweak it a little bit, and ended up screwing up my entire GTK port. T_T
I'll probably end up going back to universal binaries, but they're always slightly behind on the latest build. ^^'
Yes, I know how foolish that sounds ^.^'
Added after 1 minutes: Quote*SNEEZE!!!!* >///<
Oh yeah, I could have a lot of fun with this. ^_____^
Senpai.... ^^'
QuoteOh yeah, I could have a lot of fun with this. ^_____^
Gas masks :p
Hello everyone!
I just got back from +Nijiura+, nice place at that.
None of the random Flames/ /b/tards / attackers and Sagebombs.
But still all the goodness of the Futaba Imageboards.
Anyway, I just noticed..Leopard-chan is an IDOL there.
Seriously, she's all over the place ^_^
Quote from: "Bella"You gotta love the look on XP-tan's face But...*gasp*...I have to say I think Linux-sama's the cutest one here!
I gotta say, I disagree with you there Bella.
Free Bsd-chan is just TOO cute for me not to call the cutest of them all.
Quote from: "C-chan"*sneeze sneeze sneeze* >V<
*douses nose with pepper*
*SNEEZE!!!!* >///<
Aaaah Take cover!
*hides behind a chair*
I love the banner C-chan.
And if this is going to be war against the Vista-users, then let it be WAR!
Now... For Some pics....
(Note: I'm really close to changing my avi to that of the pink haired "Future" Leopard-tan. I just keep finding myself attracted to her)
Oh, and C-chan.
I FOUND THAT ALTERNATE PUMA-CHAN!
You're right..She is cute.. ^_^
But for some reason the pic of her won't upload in this topic.
Anyway, she's blonde, pigtails, black and red ear pattern.
Is this her?
EDIT: Darn it..That stupid replying mechanism won't let me post two of the pics I was going to. It keeps complaining about being too big. -_-
And I had one of Leopard-chan is a swimsuit too.. Ah well. OS-tan gallery here I come. (if they're not already there.)
QuoteAlso, my previous OS was not XP-pro :P. Homeko FTW.
At least she's faithful to the windows lineage, unlike her dissident, traitor sister ;_;
Well yeah, I agree...Homeko is too busy tryin' to put the moves on her little bro to care much :P
That said, my Homeko has been strangely okay with letting Ubuntu-sama and PuppyLinux-chan into her home, and is quite interested in befriending open-source software-tans ;)
But, at any rate, I'm getting freaked out by how much Apple is talking up XP. I just wonder if they're trying to get Mac users who want to run Windows with Boot Camp to go with XP and not Vista or something...
Whatever motives, I can see where Leopard-chan would befriend the XPs ^_^
QuoteI don't know. She is pretty cute, but that BSD Devilette... ^__^
QuoteI gotta say, I disagree with you there Bella.
Free Bsd-chan is just TOO cute for me not to call the cutest of them all.
Okay, you got me there. Linux-sama is cute, but FreeBSD-chan is like....Moe to the tenth power with sugar on top XD
QuoteHello everyone!
I just got back from +Nijiura+, nice place at that.
None of the random Flames/ /b/tards / attackers and Sagebombs.
But still all the goodness of the Futaba Imageboards.
Anyway, I just noticed..Leopard-chan is an IDOL there.
Seriously, she's all over the place
Ah, Leopard-tan...
She may be a +Nijura+ idol, but for me there's only one Goddess XD
*grovels before Unix-sama*
Though I do have to say, for Leopard-tan, time-traveling is a big draw :P
QuoteI love the banner C-chan.
And if this is going to be war against the Vista-users, then let it be WAR!
Ahem...Now, my #1 rule of engagement for this matter is to be nice to the users themselves...
What really got me with OS zealots wasn't quite their hatred of the OS itself...
Most of us are guilty in some way of disliking one OS or another, and some of them can really make valid criticism, because I don't believe any OS is as great as a lot of the diehard zealots make it sound. No, I dislike attacks on the users themselves, since it's really their choice what OS they want to use...hell, they can use an abacus if they want to and I won't care.
That said, let us try to keep peaceful.
But you'd
love to hear the story of what happened last night while I was waiting out in line for a Black Friday sale event.....I shan't tell it here, maybe over in my own artwork thread or something ;)
QuoteOh, and C-chan.
I FOUND THAT ALTERNATE PUMA-CHAN!
You're right..She is cute..
But for some reason the pic of her won't upload in this topic.
Anyway, she's blonde, pigtails, black and red ear pattern.
Is this her?
Yep, that's her ;)
QuoteIt doesn't look like a declaration of war...that logo its a declaration of WAR T_T
Also, my previous OS was not XP-pro :P. Homeko FTW.
At least she's faithful to the windows lineage, unlike her dissident, traitor sister ;_;
*scraps Tiger-tan and OS/2 sketchs*
I guess sisterly love just moved up on the list!
QuoteI guess sisterly love just moved up on the list!
C'mon, Darknight, give the Captain that yuri!
SUDDENLY, CATGIRLS, EVERYWHERE!!!
Alrighty! We are go for a launch! ^v^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/MEWXPZLFUDAWV_logo4.png)
There is no shading yet, but not sure if I'll add any. The flat color compliments the humor better.
Course, don't forget that this IS still open sauce....
http://ostan-collections.net/downloads.php?view=detail&id=102
...so there's nothing to stop any one of us from revisiting this picture later. ^^
In any case, I think we have everything we need to deploy the MEWXPZLFUDAWV club. ^.^
Et tu, Bella-san? 'v'
Your idea, so time for you to found it. ^__________^
Challenge is figuring out whether a new thread should be created here,... or in the Tech section. ^.^
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In any event, have a backlog of responses here in this thread, so I'll get to them shortly. ^__^
*types furiously*
Lol, I love the logo, Senpai! Definitely befitting the club ^-^
QuoteI always say, "When in doubt, go with Tiger-sama!"
QuoteBahh, she's to busy messing with the fabric of existence to lead groups
Greater words of wisdom have never been spoken [twice]. ^___^
QuoteWoohoo! Open sauce! Next best thing to cranberry sauce!
*either that's an inside joke, or you've taken to talking in an ever-so-elegant Bostonian accent*
Well for sauces, might as well make it something,... IKEAish. Loganberries ftw! ^v^
But yeah, the open sauce thing is a pretty common word play on "Open Source" in the community. So when a piece of software gets open sourced, people confess to "savoring" the sweet sweet "sauce". ^___^
QuoteYou mean red and black?
I've also seen it Blue and white too.....
(http://www.de-side.com/blogs/media/blogs/ubuntu/compiz-logo.jpg)
Either way, there's plenty that can be done with Compiz Fusion. ^^
QuoteThat sounds like an...incredibly quirky tale...!
Yes, that sounds like something that could only happen to Linux-chan :P
Honestly, that sounds like a plagiarized it off your run-of-the-mill RPG game. But as they say,... "When in Constantinople.... do as the Byzantines do". ^.^
QuoteO__________O
Yeah, I know I know, I'm nuts.... ^^
But I still want to think that the giant penguin embodies the GNU/Linux spirit (more GNU than not). ^__^
QuoteAIX I've got no ideas for, but I think Unixware has a lot of good material for a -tan...
Well,... maybe now that you mention it,... AIX-tan COULD suffer from a lot of "aches", no? ^.^
*laughs at own bad pun* ^V^
QuoteCooooool
Although I bet some Compiz-fusion or Beryl decked out Linux-tan might have a debate over who posses the more flashy, yes-less-that-useful fashions XD
Careful now, or you'll end up turning IRIX-sama into the modern-day equivalent of a jealous Snow White stepmother.
"Monitor monitor on the Desk.... Who's the Flashiest of them all?"
"....."
"@$@!&#!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
QuoteAnyhow, that's funny! Who would have known Unix-sama would attract this kind of comedy?
Although I do have to say the *nix family has an almost disturbing amount of pompous little brats XD
The UNIX family is fill of pompous brats? Naaaaaaaaaaah,... what made you think that? ^_______________^
Seriously,... now you know why the Free Unices don't mingle much with the direct heirs. ^^'
(FreeB-chan in particular is not adverse to pointing out the myriad faults of her family.)
QuoteAs for those spells...I assume she uses "Indigo Magic"? And is this also a reference to IRIX once being used in a lot of computer animation applications?
Preeeeeeeeeeecisely. ^____^
In fact, it's a bit of lack of inspiration on my part, but I still think it could work for her. -v-
QuoteThat's a great logo you've got there senpai! All this vector work going on; I really need to fix my inkscape!
Speaking of which, I tried installnig Inkscape on my friends Tiger, but couldn't since it didn't accept the version of X11 on it and I couldn't find a version of X11 to download. Fortunately, he does have PCLOS on the side as well, so it's not an urgent thing. ^.^
QuoteI hereby apply for the postition of Resident Minister of Propaganda. HEIL SEMPAI! ONE MEWXPZLFUDAWV, ONE PIG! HEIL SEMPAI!
Um,... I know I created the logo,... but technically Bella-san is our leader. ^.^
Speaking of which, she's only 3 posts away from greatness, so don't forget to get her to post m0ar. ^__^
QuoteYou gotta love the look on XP-tan's face But...*gasp*...I have to say I think Linux-sama's the cutest one here!
Well you did technically draw her, so surely there's just a small drop of bias (e.g., I can't help but love my FreeB-chan the most). ^.^
Still, it IS a CUTE reenvisioning of her design,... certainly ups the MOE factor significantly without the helment. ^__^
QuoteYou and Aurora can be the secretaries of Mac affairs
Can I be Treasurer? ^___^
QuoteI don't know. She is pretty cute, but that BSD Devilette... ^__^
Yeah! Tsubashi-dono loves FreeB-chan too! ^v^
QuoteHello everyone!
Yo Kitsune-san! Short time no see! ^.^
QuoteI just got back from +Nijiura+, nice place at that.
None of the random Flames/ /b/tards / attackers and Sagebombs.
...Thankfully. -.-
QuoteAnyway, I just noticed..Leopard-chan is an IDOL there.
Seriously, she's all over the place
I only really see the OS-tan thread, so I didn't notice that she might be an idol in the other boards. '__'
QuoteFree Bsd-chan is just TOO cute for me not to call the cutest of them all.
YES!!! SCORE THREE FOR THE DEVILISH CUTIE!!!! ^V^
Also technically the smartest one there. ^.^
QuoteI love the banner C-chan.
And if this is going to be war against the Vista-users, then let it be WAR!
Fufufu,.. well don't expect it to last long, cause by M$ own admission Vista won't have much of a lifespan after all. Hence the scramble to make Windows 7 halfway decent. ^v^
Thank you, btw. ^___^
QuoteOh, and C-chan.
I FOUND THAT ALTERNATE PUMA-CHAN!
You're right..She is cute..
But for some reason the pic of her won't upload in this topic.
Anyway, she's blonde, pigtails, black and red ear pattern.
Is this her?
Yep. that's her. ^^'
And I was only lying when I said she's cute,... point of fact, I loathe her and don't want her anywhere near my beloved REAL Pu-chan! ^0^
*hugs REAL blue-haired Pu-chan protectively*
So yeah, if you can keep It far away from my love, I'll make it worth your while. ^___^
QuoteOkay, you got me there. Linux-sama is cute, but FreeBSD-chan is like....Moe to the tenth power with sugar on top XD
You guys seriously think she's cute enough? ^___^
*squeals with joy*
Thank you, Elda-san!! ^V^
[=inspiration for FreeB-chan]
QuoteShe may be a +Nijura+ idol, but for me there's only one Goddess XD
*grovels before Unix-sama*
Praised be the Bella-sama!!!! ^0^
QuoteAhem...Now, my #1 rule of engagement for this matter is to be nice to the users themselves...
Agreed. It's essentially just a formalized version of the Golden Rule after all. ^^
QuoteLol, I love the logo, Senpai! Definitely befitting the club ^-^
Thank you, Mr. Secretary of Mac Affairs! ^___^
Thank you, but it's Mr.
Under Secretary of Mac Affairs; Aurora-Sama is senior to I. ^^'
QuoteSpeaking of which, I tried installnig Inkscape on my friends Tiger, but couldn't since it didn't accept the version of X11 on it and I couldn't find a version of X11 to download. Fortunately, he does have PCLOS on the side as well, so it's not an urgent thing. ^.^
Oh? Friend-san uses a non-standard Mac-X11 port too? Nifty! Too bad it doesn't work. You might try reinstalling the developer tools from the disk, because the only Mac-X11 available for download that I've found is an old version for panther (incompatible with Tiger)
Wooooowww....
The finalized banner is beautiful.
It really symbolizes the MEWXPZLFUDAWV club.
Quote from: "C-chan"Yep. that's her. ^^'
And I was only lying when I said she's cute,... point of fact, I loathe her and don't want her anywhere near my beloved REAL Pu-chan! ^0^
*hugs REAL blue-haired Pu-chan protectively*
So yeah, if you can keep It far away from my love, I'll make it worth your while. ^___^
Okay..
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QuoteThank you, but it's Mr. Under Secretary of Mac Affairs; Aurora-Sama is senior to I. ^^'
Really? Didn't know you were THAT young now. ^^
QuoteOh? Friend-san uses a non-standard Mac-X11 port too? Nifty! Too bad it doesn't work. You might try reinstalling the developer tools from the disk, because the only Mac-X11 available for download that I've found is an old version for panther (incompatible with Tiger)
Awesome. ^__^
Now it's just a matter of having him find that install disk in the midst of all that rubble. ^.^
...
Oh dear GAWD, I'm doomed. ;___;
But thank you, Tsubashi-dono. ^^
Hope you fix yours soon. ^v^
QuoteThe finalized banner is beautiful.
It really symbolizes the MEWXPZLFUDAWV club.
Thank you Kitsuine-san. ^v^
QuoteOkay..
*snort* `__'
....
*staaaaaaaaaaaaaare*
.........
Hmmmmmm..... `______'
*studies*
*samples*
*analyzes*
*concocts*
*tests*
*explodes*
EUREKA!!!!! ^v^
She's fixed..... ^____^
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Quote from: "Sempai"Well for sauces, might as well make it something,... IKEAish. Loganberries ftw! ^v^
Ã,,hem! Just so you know, it's called Lingon. Berry. And they're quite sour. But good, nonetheless, and especially with porridge. Funnily enough, the Lingonris (I have no idea whatsoever on how to translate the word, because it AIN'T a bush it grows on) keeps its thicky leaves over the winter. There might even be berries left this late...
*struggles back to topic* Now where was i?
Oh. Right.
Resident Ninja Pirate's comment on the finalized logo is:
FABULOUS!
One thing though: It confuses me that the images and the text doesn't match. For example, "Mac Evangelists" is upper-left, while Tiger-tan is Lower-left, and so on. Err...
First off, let me say I love the logo! I think it's perfect as-is, it really conveys the point ;)
QuoteGreater words of wisdom have never been spoken [twice]. ^___^
Heehee...
I think Techno-san's siggy is pretty prolific, though :P
QuoteHonestly, that sounds like a plagiarized it off your run-of-the-mill RPG game. But as they say,... "When in Constantinople.... do as the Byzantines do". ^.^
LOL...
QuoteYeah, I know I know, I'm nuts.... ^^
But I still want to think that the giant penguin embodies the GNU/Linux spirit (more GNU than not). ^__^
Maybe he can be Linux-sama's goon or something...
Now who's crazy XD
QuoteWell,... maybe now that you mention it,... AIX-tan COULD suffer from a lot of "aches", no? ^.^
*laughs at own bad pun* ^V^
Ha. Ha. ;018
QuoteBut as for character ideas, I think she'd be a pretty close co-worker with Linux-sama (or maybe SuSE and Redhat-tan), because I read something about AIX being compatible with them on some IBM servers...
The UNIX family is fill of pompous brats? Naaaaaaaaaaah,... what made you think that? ^_______________^
Seriously,... now you know why the Free Unices don't mingle much with the direct heirs. ^^'
(FreeB-chan in particular is not adverse to pointing out the myriad faults of her family.)
I guess so much old power and money can do that to anybody ;)
But, then how do the Linux-tans get along so well-ish with them : ?
*ponders*
QuotePreeeeeeeeeeecisely. ^____^
In fact, it's a bit of lack of inspiration on my part, but I still think it could work for her. -v-
And the character would have to have a lot of blue...blue hair, eyes, etc...
QuoteUm,... I know I created the logo,... but technically Bella-san is our leader. ^.^
Speaking of which, she's only 3 posts away from greatness, so don't forget to get her to post m0ar. ^__^
Ah, this club is run by the people for the people!
Or something like that :P
QuoteWell you did technically draw her, so surely there's just a small drop of bias (e.g., I can't help but love my FreeB-chan the most). ^.^
Guilty as charged!
QuoteCan I be Treasurer? ^___^
I was going to appoint you Secretary of Open Sourcery, and executive of public relations...
You can multi-task, right? :)
QuoteYES!!! SCORE THREE FOR THE DEVILISH CUTIE!!!! ^V^
Also technically the smartest one there. ^.^
Them fightin' words ;070
I don't think Linux-sama would ever try to eat a headcrab O___O
QuoteFufufu,.. well don't expect it to last long, cause by M$ own admission Vista won't have much of a lifespan after all. Hence the scramble to make Windows 7 halfway decent. ^v^
Meh. I don't care if it's half/three-quarters or fully decent, the Windows boat has sailed for me : |
QuoteAgreed. It's essentially just a formalized version of the Golden Rule after all. ^^
Yeah, I never really gave a flying rat's hind end what anyone thinks about my OS, just leave the users out of it...
QuoteResident Ninja Pirate's comment on the finalized logo is:
FABULOUS!
One thing though: It confuses me that the images and the text doesn't match. For example, "Mac Evangelists" is upper-left, while Tiger-tan is Lower-left, and so on. Err...
I wondered the same thing...
QuoteÃ,,hem! Just so you know, it's called Lingon. Berry. And they're quite sour. But good, nonetheless, and especially with porridge.
Um, no. Loganberries!
Rubus × loganobaccusa hybrid produced from crossing a blackberry and a raspberry. Accidentally created around 1880 in Santa Cruz, California, by the American lawyer and horticulturist James Harvey Logan. Hard to harvest in bulk, but very rewarding for home gardens. Fruit Matures earlier than blackberries. Produces fruit for approximately 2 months, as it has fruit in different stages, from blossom to mature fruit simultaneously. Very Yummy, especially in pies! ^.^
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Loganberry.jpg/170px-Loganberry.jpg)
QuoteOne thing though: It confuses me that the images and the text doesn't match. For example, "Mac Evangelists" is upper-left, while Tiger-tan is Lower-left, and so on. Err...
Each char is on the oppisite end of the collum which bears their title,
eg. "Mac Evangelists" - Upper-Left, Tiger-tan - Lower-Left
Unix Disciples - Lower-Right, FreeBSD-chan - Upper-Right, etc
Added after 10 minutes:Though, I don't know. It's sort of amusing thinking of the -tans as the nearest title. Linux-sama a Mac Evangelist? Or XP-san a Unix Disciple? Lol ^v^
The only one that sorta works is Tiger-san, because plenty of Mac users like linux too ^.^
QuoteThough, I don't know. It's sort of amusing thinking of the -tans as the nearest title. Linux-sama a Mac Evangelist? Or XP-san a Unix Disciple? Lol ^v^
The only one that sorta works is Tiger-san, because plenty of Mac users like linux too ^.^
Hey now, I'm a rabid XP fangirl and I still think Unix, and its descendants, are the some of the greatest OSs ever designed!
Mac Evangelist Linux-sama...lol... o_o
QuoteHey now, I'm a rabid XP fangirl and I still think Unix, and its descendants, are the some of the greatest OSs ever designed!
True, but M$ takes a much more anti-linux stance than Apple, by far ^.^
QuoteUm, no. Loganberries! Rubus × loganobaccus
a hybrid produced from crossing a blackberry and a raspberry. Accidentally created around 1880 in Santa Cruz, California, by the American lawyer and horticulturist James Harvey Logan. Hard to harvest in bulk, but very rewarding for home gardens. Fruit Matures earlier than blackberries. Produces fruit for approximately 2 months, as it has fruit in different stages, from blossom to mature fruit simultaneously. Very Yummy, especially in pies! ^.^
Sorry Tsubashi-dono.... But Nejin-san is right on this one.
I goofed,... should've been Lingonberries. ^___^'
Logans sound delicious, I'll grant you that.... but I crave for something a bit more,... au naturelle..... -v-;
QuoteOh. Right.
Resident Ninja Pirate's comment on the finalized logo is:
FABULOUS!
One thing though: It confuses me that the images and the text doesn't match. For example, "Mac Evangelists" is upper-left, while Tiger-tan is Lower-left, and so on. Err...
Thank you. ^^
Well yeah, I cleared a similar concern over in the images comments, but the mismatching is intentional. ^___^
Aside from the fact that the word order has to flow properly, it also made the girls seem a little,....... egoistic......... if they showered praise only upon themselves. Seeing XP-tan declaring herself a "Windows XP Zealot" does little to instill a team spirit among all of them. ^^;
QuoteFirst off, let me say I love the logo! I think it's perfect as-is, it really conveys the point
And it's Open Sauce, so by all means please add to it whenever you'd like. ^.^
QuoteI guess so much old power and money can do that to anybody
But, then how do the Linux-tans get along so well-ish with them : ?
*ponders*
Oh that's easy! ^__^
The thing is that the Linux-tans are too NICE -- and seeing their leader Linux-sama getting along well with the Great Mother Unix-sama inspires them to be equally patient giving peace a chance.
Given all the infighting, it doesn't always work (based on the temperment of the particular distro-tan), but they certainly put up with a lot more crap from pompous know-it-alls than your average person would withstand. ^^;
QuoteAh, this club is run by the people for the people!
Or something like that :P
Too late!
I've already registered the club as a totalitarian monarchy, and designated you as Queen/Empress/Master-of-all-she-Surveys. ^_________^
Course,...
If you don't feel like founding the club,..... I suppose I could risk it and found it for you. ^^;
Just be warned,... I attract a lot of troublemakers..... -v-;
QuoteI was going to appoint you Secretary of Open Sourcery, and executive of public relations...
You can multi-task, right?
*collapses*
^^;
As long as you don't mind half-assed jobs, yeah sure.... ^.^;
QuoteThem fightin' words
I don't think Linux-sama would ever try to eat a headcrab O___O
That's a shame, you know....
They're a greeat source of potassium! ^.^
QuoteEach char is on the oppisite end of the collum which bears their title,
eg. "Mac Evangelists" - Upper-Left, Tiger-tan - Lower-Left
Unix Disciples - Lower-Right, FreeBSD-chan - Upper-Right, etc
Though, I don't know. It's sort of amusing thinking of the -tans as the nearest title. Linux-sama a Mac Evangelist? Or XP-san a Unix Disciple? Lol ^v^
The only one that sorta works is Tiger-san, because plenty of Mac users like linux too ^.^
Nothing less to be expected from Tsubashi-dono! ^o^
QuoteTrue, but M$ takes a much more anti-linux stance than Apple, by far ^.^
Fufu... yeah, like publishing a fake study every week claiming how much better security is for Vista than every other Linux distro known to man..... ^__________^
Oh, but wait,... that's a topic best reserved for when the club's open. ^___^
I know I have a ton of other things to comment on, right now (like C-chan's logo - nice work, C-chan!). Hopefully I'll get around to them. In the meantime...
QuoteI was going to appoint you Secretary of Open Sourcery, and executive of public relations...
You can multi-task, right?
Does this mean there are going to be Open Sourcerers? *folds hands, deviantly* Will they act as a form of SS?
QuoteDoes this mean there are going to be Open Sourcerers? *folds hands, deviantly* Will they act as a form of SS?
GAH!!!!!!!!!! XvX
*collapses*
*twitch twitch twitch twitch twitch* ^^x
Uh,... sorry to burst your paramilitary bubble, but no. -v-'
Open Sourcerers would be more like members of Médecins Sans Frontières or Operación Milagro,... very easy to admire, but also very easy to target. ^^'
Up for the job still? `v'
QuoteTrue, but M$ takes a much more anti-linux stance than Apple, by far ^.^
Probably because Apple knows they're pretty secure in their market. M$, however, is probably realizing a large number of Windows users are starting to wonder what else is out there...they see open source stuff as a threat so they're treating it as such.,..
QuoteAside from the fact that the word order has to flow properly, it also made the girls seem a little,....... egoistic......... if they showered praise only upon themselves. Seeing XP-tan declaring herself a "Windows XP Zealot" does little to instill a team spirit among all of them. ^^;
I agree now :) After all, we want unity! I'm sure XP-tan would evangelize Leopard-chan if it meant stealing someone away from...you know who... ;)
QuoteAnd it's Open Sauce, so by all means please add to it whenever you'd like. ^.^
Af'tah I paahk m'caar at ha'vad yarhd I mi' giv'er a try!
(Sorry, Open Sauce still makes me think of my native New England accent!)
QuoteOh that's easy! ^__^
The thing is that the Linux-tans are too NICE -- and seeing their leader Linux-sama getting along well with the Great Mother Unix-sama inspires them to be equally patient giving peace a chance.
Awww, they're so sweet! ^_^ especially given their...rocky history...
QuoteGiven all the infighting, it doesn't always work (based on the temperment of the particular distro-tan), but they certainly put up with a lot more crap from pompous know-it-alls than your average person would withstand. ^^;
I can imagine the Windows-wannabes would be particularly disliked ;)
The Slackwares would probably get along quite well...to a certain extent :P
QuoteToo late!
I've already registered the club as a totalitarian monarchy, and designated you as Queen/Empress/Master-of-all-she-Surveys. ^_________^
Course,...
If you don't feel like founding the club,..... I suppose I could risk it and found it for you. ^^;
Just be warned,... I attract a lot of troublemakers..... -v-;
Just call me Bella the Great XD No, I guess we could have some kinda shared control, each of us in our own area of expertise (like our Mac Secrataries!)
And I always thought you were quite good at diffusing flamewars and stuff...!
QuoteOh, but wait,... that's a topic best reserved for when the club's open. ^___^
Yeah, did you want to start a thread or...?
I don't want a ton of bad publicity >__< but this is sort of a theory and discussion thread about OS-tan and it's kinda been hijacked XD
QuoteDoes this mean there are going to be Open Sourcerers? *folds hands, deviantly* Will they act as a form of SS?
What's up with all the Nazi references....O___o
Doggarnit, I can't go to sleep remembering this and that. >__<
Anyway, just wanted to quickly say that yeah....
QuoteYeah, did you want to start a thread or...?
I don't want a ton of bad publicity >__< but this is sort of a theory and discussion thread about OS-tan and it's kinda been hijacked XD
....let's start a new thread for our club. ^___^
To commemorate your transcendence into Linuxdom, please do the honors for us, Bella-dono! ^v^
*skirts off responsibility, and sighs with relief*
Okay, that's all.
Now.... let's try this again, shall we?
G'night all. -v-
*snore* -__- Zzzz
QuoteDoes this mean there are going to be Open Sourcerers? *folds hands, deviantly* Will they act as a form of SS?
There will not. However, there WILL be Open Sorcerers. WORKING THE LINUX MAGIC! >w<
QuoteWhat's up with all the Nazi references....O___o
I'm afraid it was inevitable. Godwin's Law, you know ^__~
QuoteThere will not. However, there WILL be Open Sorcerers. WORKING THE LINUX MAGIC! >w<
Uhh,... yeah,... something like that. ^^'
QuoteProbably because Apple knows they're pretty secure in their market. M$, however, is probably realizing a large number of Windows users are starting to wonder what else is out there...they see open source stuff as a threat so they're treating it as such.,..
Kind of also dug a whole with the uber high system requirements of Vista, since cash-strapped people are going to naturally gravitate towards cheaper and cheaper machines. Case in point, the gPC comes in the gOS flavor and the more expensive Windows flavor, yet it was the gOS one that sold like hotcakes. ^^
But again,... this is best reserved for our club. ^___^
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I agree now After all, we want unity! I'm sure XP-tan would evangelize Leopard-chan if it meant stealing someone away from...you know who...
Our collective punching bag? ^^'
QuoteAf'tah I paahk m'caar at ha'vad yarhd I mi' giv'er a try!
(Sorry, Open Sauce still makes me think of my native New England accent!)
Oh noes! We've been invaded by Bostonians! O__O
....
Do you say "Soda", "Pop", "Cola", "Fizz", or "Carbonated Drink"?
QuoteI can imagine the Windows-wannabes would be particularly disliked
*imagines Linspire-tan, SUSE-tan, Xandros-tan and TurboLinux-tan being hurled out of the party by an angry horde* ^___^
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Just call me Bella the Great XD No, I guess we could have some kinda shared control, each of us in our own area of expertise (like our Mac Secrataries!)
That sounds like a great idea, Bella the Great. ^___^
QuoteAnd I always thought you were quite good at diffusing flamewars and stuff...!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^..............
*pats Bella on head* ^.^
QuoteWhat's up with all the Nazi references....O___o
Believe me, I've been wondering the same thing myself.... ovO
QuoteI'm afraid it was inevitable. Godwin's Law, you know ^__~
Wondering Session Complete. 0v0
QuoteYeah, did you want to start a thread or...?
I don't want a ton of bad publicity >__< but this is sort of a theory and discussion thread about OS-tan and it's kinda been hijacked XD
Well, I already said this before, but....
FIRE AWAY, BELLA THE GREAT!!!!!!!! ^V^
*points her heroically towards "New Topic" button*
Quote from: "C-Chan"Uh,... sorry to burst your paramilitary bubble, but no. -v-'
Open Sourcerers would be more like members of Médecins Sans Frontières or Operación Milagro,... very easy to admire, but also very easy to target. ^^'
Up for the job still? `v'
I don't think I'm quite qualified to be an Open Sourcerer (or an Open Sorcerer). But I would like to move that they be a department of MEWXPZLFUDAWV.
Quote from: "Tsubashi"I'm afraid it was inevitable. Godwin's Law, you know ^__~
Dear goodness! It's true!
*C-chan's arm gets tired as he continues to point heroically towards "New Topic" button*
Oi,... where's Bella the Great when you need her.... X___X;
In any event, here's some material for our club to be. ^___^
Aside from the Barcode Battler thing (which is funny as hell!), check what made it to #10 on the list:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/0,39029552,49293700-1,00.htm
Another thing I've been wondering is if we want to make this cooperation between Linux-sama, FreeB-chan, Tiger-san and XP-tan part of our forum lore, or just keep the unholy union relegated to our logo. ^^'
I LMAO'd as hell at the Barcode Battler. Kudos. >w<
After seeing the Wiki article, I can kinda sorta maybe comprehend why it was popular in Japan. Maybe if it were smaller,... and didn't hog up so many batteries...... ¬¬
.....
Still waiting on Bella the Great. ^______^;
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1342/763175489_e183d218e8_o.jpg)
QuoteI'm afraid it was inevitable. Godwin's Law, you know ^__~
Oh yeah...
I remember first hearing of Godwin's Law with the little Linus Torvalds vs. GNOME developers row :P
QuoteKind of also dug a whole with the uber high system requirements of Vista, since cash-strapped people are going to naturally gravitate towards cheaper and cheaper machines. Case in point, the gPC comes in the gOS flavor and the more expensive Windows flavor, yet it was the gOS one that sold like hotcakes. ^^
As soon as they make a laptop version, I'm gonna be really interested...
QuoteOh noes! We've been invaded by Bostonians! O__O
....
Do you say "Soda", "Pop", "Cola", "Fizz", or "Carbonated Drink"?
Pop's mos'ly a mid-westan sayin'...i'd get ya odd looks 'round here. We say "soda" ;)
Quote*imagines Linspire-tan, SUSE-tan, Xandros-tan and TurboLinux-tan being hurled out of the party by an angry horde* ^___^
Imagine what they'd do LinuxXP-chan! XD
QuoteBWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
.....
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
..............
*pats Bella on head* ^.^
No, a really thought trouble was a'brewing...
...but then you came and made sense of it...
QuoteI don't think I'm quite qualified to be an Open Sourcerer (or an Open Sorcerer). But I would like to move that they be a department of MEWXPZLFUDAWV.
If we get enough open source enthusiasts, for sure!
QuoteOi,... where's Bella the Great when you need her.... X___X;
*cowers*
I'ma 'fraid -//////-
Besides, I dunno what I should name the thread, how I should introduce it, etc...
QuoteIn any event, here's some material for our club to be. ^___^
Aside from the Barcode Battler thing (which is funny as hell!), check what made it to #10 on the list:
LOL!!!
QuoteAnother thing I've been wondering is if we want to make this cooperation between Linux-sama, FreeB-chan, Tiger-san and XP-tan part of our forum lore, or just keep the unholy union relegated to our logo. ^^'
A little of each, I say...
I mean, all three are modern OS-tans, so I guess it's not unreasonable to think they have contact with each other. Perhaps the fact that they each want the same thing...for people to see that maybe the newest/flashiest/most popular(ish) system isn't always the best (for everyone)...would make them perhaps think a little better of one another than they did before.
That said, I doubt I see any drum circle singings of
Kumbaya...
Quote*cowers*
I'ma 'fraid -//////-
Besides, I dunno what I should name the thread, how I should introduce it, etc...
GAH!!!! *collapses* XvX
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Oh alright........ I'LL found it.... -______________-
*sighs*
But if I get heckled, you'll be responsible for my safety now, ya here?! TvT
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Guess I'll set it up here in the OS-tan fanfics, comics and stuff thread, since we do want to make the club half-"canon" per your previous suggestion. That probably means we have to throw in the occasional artwork, mind you, or reference it in any future works. If we change our minds, we can have one of our Mac Moderators move the thread elsewhere. ^___^
And as for its name,.... pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease. -v-
"MEWXPZLFUDAWV Club", of course. ^.^
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In any event, still DESPERATELY trying to finish the Inkscape Tutorial, but am failing miserably yet again since I'm still playing around with more "pretty" pattern concepts (have already tried plaid and crosshatching)..... T___T'
So sorry if I have to leave it at that, but I'll reply again for sure. ^___^
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IN OUR BRAND SPANKING-NEW CLUB!!!!!!! *cheers* ^V^
*trots off*
If the Barcode Battler had graphics (related to the appropriate bar codes) I would be all over that! I have to admit, I'm attracted to really dumb games, but it does seem to have a Monster Rancher-like appeal. It just lacks the graphics (and, possibly, a more energy-efficient system).
However, since the blank cards offer the option of drawing an illustration of the resulting character/boost...I would love the chance to design what sort of characters or items my purchases could become!
*sigh* I guess I'm the sort of sucker that Barcode Battler is geared toward.
QuoteAnother thing I've been wondering is if we want to make this cooperation between Linux-sama, FreeB-chan, Tiger-san and XP-tan part of our forum lore, or just keep the unholy union relegated to our logo. ^^'
My first thought on this was, "Would XP-tan really conspire against her sister?" Then, I figured a little bit of sibling rivalry couldn't hurt.
Oh, I can found it! Not today though, I'm beat :P
And to answer Siya: I think Vistan's out for blood with XP-tan >__<
Not like every other new OS has betrayed it's predecessor :P
Okay, let's get back on topic!
Prototype-tans: what exactly are they?
Cause if you think about it, they have nearly no (if any) userbase, which by most accounts would make them dead...yet these are remembered to a certain extent (though very little info on them can be found), contributed much to later OSs, and there's a fair amount of artwork depicting them...
Somehow I kinda want to think of them as "existent" but not...almost like a ghost or something.
Odyssey-tan's been pictured with 2k-tan and ME-tan on a few occasions, too...usually being mocked or finding herself (or her CDR halo) the matter of some interest. Neptune-tan, as far as I know, has never been depicted along with any other OS-tan, and other prototype Windows and Mac-tans haven't been seen in canon artwork...
Hmmmm,....
Well the fact that a Copland-tan and Taligent-tan and Windows 97-tan were already produced without any discernible oddity sorta complicates things,... unless you declared them as "ghosts" or something from here on outward. But I'm not sure if assigning a ubiquitous nature to them is really necessary -- they can be whatever is most appropriate based on a case-by-case basis. Neptune and Odyssey-tan may be ghosts due to underhandedness, but certainly other Prototype-tans could still be blood relatives of some sort that likely don't live with the immediate family.
Even though they're not prototypes (except maybe perhaps for Hacchan), the lifestyles of OSR 2.1 and OSR 2.5-sama come to mind. Darwin-tan is another example -- with the exception that SHE was given a second chance at exposure through Open Sorcery. ^^
Yeah, I sorta forgot about 97-tan >/////<
But I always assumed 97 was the original name for 98; didn't they not release it in time or something...?
Copland and Taligent-tan...I dunno, aside from the OS Xs and OS 6-tan, I've always seen the Apple-tans as being somewhat "homegrown"-no pun intended-compared to the Windows and *nix-tans...
The OSR-tans, I've always considered something like the Secchan to 95's Hacchan...I mean to say, they're just later releases that got their own -tans.
But Neptune and Odyssey were arguably full and independent OSs (with a close relation to 2k) that never got off the ground for some reason or another (mostly just the prolonging of the 9x Windows)...
QuoteYeah, I sorta forgot about 97-tan >/////<
No worries,... you, me, and 99.99999999999% of the world forgets about 97-tan. ^^;
QuoteBut I always assumed 97 was the original name for 98; didn't they not release it in time or something...?
Don't remember the full details of it, but you're probably right. Nonetheless, a 97-tan was made anyway, if only because the marketing for it was pretty heavy in the literature at the time (I still remember a "Windows 96" being promoted). So yeah, that would put her in the possession of
conceptual prototype, much like Longhorn-tan.
QuoteCopland and Taligent-tan...I dunno, aside from the OS Xs and OS 6-tan, I've always seen the Apple-tans as being somewhat "homegrown"-no pun intended-compared to the Windows and *nix-tans...
Fufu! Homegrown.... ^___^
Well yeah,... while I envision a 'Ghost in the Shell'-like creation for Unices and Windows-tans,... that just doesn't seem to jive well with Apple-tans. ^^;
QuoteBut Neptune and Odyssey were arguably full and independent OSs (with a close relation to 2k) that never got off the ground for some reason or another (mostly just the prolonging of the 9x Windows)...
Incidentally, here's a CIOST prototype-tan that also never got off the ground (in fact, they pulled all the cool info from the site), but would have had a very ambitious design.... ^^
http://unununium.org/
I always thought that if I drew her, she'd be a powerful OS-tan matched in strength to Solaris-sama and loosely resembling a Dolem from RahXephon -- but otherwise hardly what one would call reliable and stable given she'd be far from complete.
QuoteNo worries,... you, me, and 99.99999999999% of the world forgets about 97-tan. ^^;
LOL XD
QuoteDon't remember the full details of it, but you're probably right. Nonetheless, a 97-tan was made anyway, if only because the marketing for it was pretty heavy in the literature at the time (I still remember a "Windows 96" being promoted). So yeah, that would put her in the possession of conceptual prototype, much like Longhorn-tan.
Hmmm...that I didn't know...
QuoteFufu! Homegrown.... ^___^
Well yeah,... while I envision a 'Ghost in the Shell'-like creation for Unices and Windows-tans,... that just doesn't seem to jive well with Apple-tans. ^^;
Exactly my thoughts!
I guess a couple of well-meaning California dudes making wooden computers in their garage, and naming their company after a fruit, seems far from futuristic :P
I've always said, we have no idea of the dark arts that went into creating those Win/Unix-tans O__o
QuoteIncidentally, here's a CIOST prototype-tan that also never got off the ground (in fact, they pulled all the cool info from the site), but would have had a very ambitious design.... ^^
http://unununium.org/
I always thought that if I drew her, she'd be a powerful OS-tan matched in strength to Solaris-sama and loosely resembling a Dolem from RahXephon -- but otherwise hardly what one would call reliable and stable given she'd be far from complete.
I've seen that site before!
Shame nothing became of it : |
But those are interesting ideas for a character! A unstable, crazy Solaris-san wannabe...XD
Hmm Interesting.
What about We-tan and Yamada?
Would they fall under the classification of "Prototype Os-tans" Being that they're Tans of prototype OSes
Or would they be "Prototype Os-tans" Being that they're prototype designs of the Os-tans themselves....
We-tan and Yamada aren't OS-tans. They're actually OS-tan wannabes or groupies.
We-tan = ME-tan's counterpart
Yamada = 98-tan's counterpart (and Yamada was originally a prototype design for 98-tan)
Pizza-ko = 2K-tan's counterpart
Komepo = XP Pro-tan's counterpart
And I have a question: There are quite a few OS-tans that represent unreleased and/or prototype OSes. But what about hacked or bootleg variants of an OS and would they be worth personifying?
Quote from: "Aurora Borealis"
And I have a question: There are quite a few OS-tans that represent unreleased and/or prototype OSes. But what about hacked or bootleg variants of an OS and would they be worth personifying?
Obviously, no one is stopping from creating personifications of the said variants. I guess it's between "yes" or "no"
Yes, because it would at least give satisfaction of some people who own such variants and no, since most OS personification is given to an established OS.
QuoteWe-tan and Yamada aren't OS-tans. They're actually OS-tan wannabes or groupies.
We-tan = ME-tan's counterpart
Yamada = 98-tan's counterpart (and Yamada was originally a prototype design for 98-tan)
Pizza-ko = 2K-tan's counterpart
Komepo = XP Pro-tan's counterpart
I always thought We-tan was somewhat of a pun on Me-tan...and I think Yamada was a early design for 98.
QuoteAnd I have a question: There are quite a few OS-tans that represent unreleased and/or prototype OSes. But what about hacked or bootleg variants of an OS and would they be worth personifying?
I think a bootleg OS-tan would kinda be the same as a normal one, as a bootleg is but a copy of a certain OS. Hacked OS-tans...I dunno, I suppose that's similar to mind control or something of the like...
And I've thought more about a potential UnixWare-tan, her looks, attitude, etc.
Attitude wise, UnixWare-san would be a smart and calculating warrior; Though I'm unsure what her weapon of choice would be, she'd be very good with it. Her lifelong ambition has been to topple NT-san off of her pedestal of server dominance, partially due to a personal hate of the MS family, and also to avenge NT-san's attack on her comrade, NetWare-tan (which I've got no ideas for really...more on this later). She was in fact born out of a need to make her company more successful in the server market. It is said that Ray Noorda, the CEO of Novell at this time, had some sort of plans for marketing DR-DOS, but instead went with UnixWare. So there could be some sort of backstory between the two -tans...
She also deeply dislikes SCO Unix-tan; I'd imagine UnixWare and SCO-tan would have often battled over whom was the truest descendant of Unix-sama or something like that (because SCO and Novell fought over who owned the Unix trademarks, not to mention this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Unix-history.svg ), but in the end UnixWare-san won...lets just say, you know those crutches SCO-tan now hobbles around on? UnixWare-tan likely put here there...
At some point, UnixWare and NetWare were supposed to me merged into one OS (SuperNOS). I've no idea what the -tan equivalent would be (makes me think of this technical and genetic dark magic I often joke about), but one could say either some sort of clone was to be made of them, or they were to train student together or something...This slightly creepy scenario was supposed to be played out yet again, except with merging AIX and UnixWare. While nothing became of either project, a beta version of the AIX/UnixWare merge was created (hey, a prototype-tan!). I can also see where AIX and Unixware-tan would be friends, since both opposed SCO-tan.
Physically, I see her as having long, say, blackish or dark hair, dark eyes, and thin glasses. But that's how I describe 90% of Unix-tans, so...
Now I have a question(!): what would a network OS-tan be? Because, as I can gather, an NOS is an OS made to control computer networks (duh)...I remember somebody else brought this up...
And am I even a little correct for envisioning them as something like a telephone operator....?
QuoteExactly my thoughts!
I guess a couple of well-meaning California dudes making wooden computers in their garage, and naming their company after a fruit, seems far from futuristic :P
I've always said, we have no idea of the dark arts that went into creating those Win/Unix-tans O__o
Damn the director of the original Ghost in the Shell movie for making his intro very NSFW!! ^0^
Now would be an excellent spot to just put it. ^^'
QuoteBut those are interesting ideas for a character! A unstable, crazy Solaris-san wannabe...XD
Not really sure if she'd be much of a Solaris-wannabe,... in fact, she'd hardly have much of a personality at all being on a kind of life-support 99% of the time, and only appearing in battle whenever a HUGE psionic blast can turn the tide or at least cover for a retreat. I doubt she'd even be able to speak,... or at least not verbally.
Unlike the UNIX-tans, the CIOST [at least in my interpretation] are comparably a ragtag bunch -- very resourceful and powerful in their own right, but lacking order and cohesiveness. Even though I'm no gamer, their,... "army" (if their userbase can be called that) is not unlike the "Nod" from the Command & Conquer series. Scattered and decentralized, and equipped with 5% ABSURDLY high-tech, futuristic weapons contrasting sharply with the remaining 95% low-tech partisanry. Yet they're still a forced to be reckoned with due to their stealth, guerrilla tactics, near-impenetrable defenses, and an almost religious zeal to stay alive. They don't have the numbers or the ambition to go looking for trouble,... but anyone who looks for trouble in-turn ain't gonna find any pushovers. ^^;
QuoteWe-tan and Yamada aren't OS-tans. They're actually OS-tan wannabes or groupies.
OMG... and I just finished listening Pizzicato Five song that has "I'm a Groupie" as a reoccuring lyric! Now THAT'S what I call a coincidence.... ^.^
QuoteAnd I have a question: There are quite a few OS-tans that represent unreleased and/or prototype OSes. But what about hacked or bootleg variants of an OS and would they be worth personifying?
In a manga idea that I had, the OS-tan "wilderness" outside the realms of OS-tan civilization (in other words, where Wanderers,... wander.... ^^') is,... in typical RPG style,... teeming with monsters (the more animalistc viruses, worms, etc), as well as bandits and pirates. There would also be bootlegged OS-tans, who are essentially mutant clones of the original that are barred from society if they're discovered and thus outcasts. Not all are bad depending on how well they're produced -- but since the majority are created hastily, they tend to be single-minded, destructive, evil and zombie-like (and naturally, the majority are Windows-tan based due to popularity).
And while it's no problem dispelling a Bootlegged 2k-tan in the city, she'd represent a real threat to Wanderers who could be up to 20 years older and woefully unprepared to defend against a modern aggressor.
I do agree that "hacking" would be synonymous to mind control, and that can be done either on the original (very desirable) or on any of those freeroaming bootlegs (a waste of time, but good practice for the megalomaniac evil hacker).
QuoteAttitude wise, UnixWare-san would be a smart and calculating warrior; Though I'm unsure what her weapon of choice would be, she'd be very good with it. Her lifelong ambition has been to topple NT-san off of her pedestal of server dominance, partially due to a personal hate of the MS family, and also to avenge NT-san's attack on her comrade, NetWare-tan (which I've got no ideas for really...more on this later). She was in fact born out of a need to make her company more successful in the server market. It is said that Ray Noorda, the CEO of Novell at this time, had some sort of plans for marketing DR-DOS, but instead went with UnixWare. So there could be some sort of backstory between the two -tans...
Fufufu! Unixware-tan has something or other to do with DR-DOS-sama! ^__^
It's amazing how,... if you drew a relationship tree between all the characters,... you'd start to see that everyone truly is interconnected. ^v^
No surprise on the smart and calculating warrior, since that basically describes the entire UNIX family. ^___^
The REAL question is,... what's her particular, mandatory, curse-like personality quirk that would make her so uniquely... UNIX? ^.^
QuoteShe also deeply dislikes SCO Unix-tan; I'd imagine UnixWare and SCO-tan would have often battled over whom was the truest descendant of Unix-sama or something like that (because SCO and Novell fought over who owned the Unix trademarks, not to mention this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Unix-history.svg ), but in the end UnixWare-san won...lets just say, you know those crutches SCO-tan now hobbles around on? UnixWare-tan likely put here there...
Fufufu.... well, in that sense too UnixWare is like every other Unix and Linux-tan that is annoyed by how much of a brat Xenix-sama's daughter is. But to be the honorable OS-tan that actually puts her in her place,..... wow! What a gal! I'm liking her already. ^^
QuoteAt some point, UnixWare and NetWare were supposed to me merged into one OS (SuperNOS). I've no idea what the -tan equivalent would be (makes me think of this technical and genetic dark magic I often joke about), but one could say either some sort of clone was to be made of them, or they were to train student together or something...This slightly creepy scenario was supposed to be played out yet again, except with merging AIX and UnixWare. While nothing became of either project, a beta version of the AIX/UnixWare merge was created (hey, a prototype-tan!). I can also see where AIX and Unixware-tan would be friends, since both opposed SCO-tan.
Hmmmm,....... I dunno,....... kinda torn between this "descendent" idea, or some kind of "Dynamic Duo" pairing. But as I always say,... err on the path of less work and less characters. ^___________^;
QuotePhysically, I see her as having long, say, blackish or dark hair, dark eyes, and thin glasses. But that's how I describe 90% of Unix-tans, so...
Poor Bella-sama.... ^.^
How 'bout just goin ahead and changing the hair color to something,... waaaaaaaaaaaay out there. And maybe scrap the conventional glasses for an unconventional one-eyed visor instead? Little things here and there to make each Unix distinctly unique -- certainly if you saw the final pairing of FreeB-chan, OpenBSD and NetBSD, you'd think they came from totally different families.... ^____^;
QuoteNow I have a question(!): what would a network OS-tan be? Because, as I can gather, an NOS is an OS made to control computer networks (duh)...I remember somebody else brought this up...
And am I even a little correct for envisioning them as something like a telephone operator....?
Hmmmm,.... wouldn't a Network OS be essentially a Mainframe-tan? ^^
QuoteDamn the director of the original Ghost in the Shell movie for making his intro very NSFW!! ^0^
Now would be an excellent spot to just put it. ^^'
OMG, tell me about it :P
A while ago I saw that movie, I thought it was excellent!
I think it raised many interesting questions about the future of technology, namely, is nudity still nudity, if it's a cyborg that's void of clothing? ;138
QuoteNot really sure if she'd be much of a Solaris-wannabe,... in fact, she'd hardly have much of a personality at all being on a kind of life-support 99% of the time, and only appearing in battle whenever a HUGE psionic blast can turn the tide or at least cover for a retreat. I doubt she'd even be able to speak,... or at least not verbally.
Sucks to be her O___o Though I've kinda thought that all experimental OSs and stuff would start out something like that...
...But her powers are telekinetic and telepathic? Awesome!
QuoteUnlike the UNIX-tans, the CIOST [at least in my interpretation] are comparably a ragtag bunch -- very resourceful and powerful in their own right, but lacking order and cohesiveness. Even though I'm no gamer, their,... "army" (if their userbase can be called that) is not unlike the "Nod" from the Command & Conquer series. Scattered and decentralized, and equipped with 5% ABSURDLY high-tech, futuristic weapons contrasting sharply with the remaining 95% low-tech partisanry. Yet they're still a forced to be reckoned with due to their stealth, guerrilla tactics, near-impenetrable defenses, and an almost religious zeal to stay alive. They don't have the numbers or the ambition to go looking for trouble,... but anyone who looks for trouble in-turn ain't gonna find any pushovers. ^^;
Woohoo! And VMS-sama is their leader!
That's a really interesting view on their group. I think they could become one of my favorite groups (especially if they snag Multics-sama as a ally!)
But right not I'm on a bit of an Unix-like kick, so I must put the CIOST on the backburner till I get bored with the *nixes :P
QuoteIn a manga idea that I had, the OS-tan "wilderness" outside the realms of OS-tan civilization (in other words, where Wanderers,... wander.... ^^') is,... in typical RPG style,... teeming with monsters (the more animalistc viruses, worms, etc), as well as bandits and pirates. There would also be bootlegged OS-tans, who are essentially mutant clones of the original that are barred from society if they're discovered and thus outcasts. Not all are bad depending on how well they're produced -- but since the majority are created hastily, they tend to be single-minded, destructive, evil and zombie-like (and naturally, the majority are Windows-tan based due to popularity).
And while it's no problem dispelling a Bootlegged 2k-tan in the city, she'd represent a real threat to Wanderers who could be up to 20 years older and woefully unprepared to defend against a modern aggressor.
I do agree that "hacking" would be synonymous to mind control, and that can be done either on the original (very desirable) or on any of those freeroaming bootlegs (a waste of time, but good practice for the megalomaniac evil hacker).
Sounds like the wild west or something ;)
QuoteFufufu! Unixware-tan has something or other to do with DR-DOS-sama! ^__^
It's amazing how,... if you drew a relationship tree between all the characters,... you'd start to see that everyone truly is interconnected. ^v^
No surprise on the smart and calculating warrior, since that basically describes the entire UNIX family. ^___^
The REAL question is,... what's her particular, mandatory, curse-like personality quirk that would make her so uniquely... UNIX? ^.^
Well, aren't nearly all modern OSs descended from a few "bloodlines", so I'm sure there'd be a lot of connections. But DR-DOS and UnixWare are kinda an odd one, and both are very different...
As for her Unix quirk...I dunno, she's unhealthily obsessed with "killing NT-tan", but can't quite get to her...
Also, she's had more failed collaborations with other OSs than most...perhaps she comes off as quite likable and friendly, but is too grating, pompous and warlike to get along with...?
QuoteFufufu.... well, in that sense too UnixWare is like every other Unix and Linux-tan that is annoyed by how much of a brat Xenix-sama's daughter is. But to be the honorable OS-tan that actually puts her in her place,..... wow! What a gal! I'm liking her already. ^^
LOL XD
QuoteHmmmm,....... I dunno,....... kinda torn between this "descendent" idea, or some kind of "Dynamic Duo" pairing. But as I always say,... err on the path of less work and less characters. ^___________^;
Good thinking...we'll save this descendant thing for the OSs where it really counts ....
*stares at NT-tan...*
QuotePoor Bella-sama.... ^.^
How 'bout just goin ahead and changing the hair color to something,... waaaaaaaaaaaay out there. And maybe scrap the conventional glasses for an unconventional one-eyed visor instead? Little things here and there to make each Unix distinctly unique -- certainly if you saw the final pairing of FreeB-chan, OpenBSD and NetBSD, you'd think they came from totally different families.... ^____^;
Whhaaaaa! But she's the closest thing to an Unix heir, she better have dark hair and glasses :..(
Oh course, others I want to draw, like HP UX-tan, would probably be a bit more interesting...maybe a monocle?
QuoteHmmmm,.... wouldn't a Network OS be essentially a Mainframe-tan? ^^
I thought an NOS was more like a souped-up router...
I'm quite clueless when it comes to the realm of Mainframes/supercomputers/routers/etc.....
QuoteAnd I've thought more about a potential UnixWare-tan, her looks, attitude, etc.
Attitude wise, UnixWare-san would be a smart and calculating warrior; Though I'm unsure what her weapon of choice would be, she'd be very good with it. Her lifelong ambition has been to topple NT-san off of her pedestal of server dominance, partially due to a personal hate of the MS family, and also to avenge NT-san's attack on her comrade, NetWare-tan (which I've got no ideas for really...more on this later). She was in fact born out of a need to make her company more successful in the server market. It is said that Ray Noorda, the CEO of Novell at this time, had some sort of plans for marketing DR-DOS, but instead went with UnixWare. So there could be some sort of backstory between the two -tans...
She also deeply dislikes SCO Unix-tan; I'd imagine UnixWare and SCO-tan would have often battled over whom was the truest descendant of Unix-sama or something like that (because SCO and Novell fought over who owned the Unix trademarks, not to mention this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Unix-history.svg ), but in the end UnixWare-san won...lets just say, you know those crutches SCO-tan now hobbles around on? UnixWare-tan likely put here there...
At some point, UnixWare and NetWare were supposed to me merged into one OS (SuperNOS). I've no idea what the -tan equivalent would be (makes me think of this technical and genetic dark magic I often joke about), but one could say either some sort of clone was to be made of them, or they were to train student together or something...This slightly creepy scenario was supposed to be played out yet again, except with merging AIX and UnixWare. While nothing became of either project, a beta version of the AIX/UnixWare merge was created (hey, a prototype-tan!). I can also see where AIX and Unixware-tan would be friends, since both opposed SCO-tan.
Physically, I see her as having long, say, blackish or dark hair, dark eyes, and thin glasses. But that's how I describe 90% of Unix-tans, so...
Woah.
Bravo! Sounds like quite the character to me.
I can see that she'd be enemies with NT-sama, but if she got aggressive with Inu-t then I'd have to step in...
QuoteIn a manga idea that I had, the OS-tan "wilderness" outside the realms of OS-tan civilization (in other words, where Wanderers,... wander.... ^^') is,... in typical RPG style,... teeming with monsters (the more animalistc viruses, worms, etc), as well as bandits and pirates. There would also be bootlegged OS-tans, who are essentially mutant clones of the original that are barred from society if they're discovered and thus outcasts. Not all are bad depending on how well they're produced -- but since the majority are created hastily, they tend to be single-minded, destructive, evil and zombie-like (and naturally, the majority are Windows-tan based due to popularity).
And while it's no problem dispelling a Bootlegged 2k-tan in the city, she'd represent a real threat to Wanderers who could be up to 20 years older and woefully unprepared to defend against a modern aggressor.
I do agree that "hacking" would be synonymous to mind control, and that can be done either on the original (very desirable) or on any of those freeroaming bootlegs (a waste of time, but good practice for the megalomaniac evil hacker).
Hey C-chan, have you ever thought of starting an RP in the Games section?
I'd join something like that.
But since you mentioned hacking..How would that be done to an OS-tan?
Just like regular mind-control. *Sasser-tan's most overused ability, you'll see when I draw her.*
Or...The other way...You know what I mean..We were just talking about ghost in the shell a little while ago...
QuoteI think it raised many interesting questions about the future of technology, namely, is nudity still nudity, if it's a cyborg that's void of clothing?
Oh, that's easy,....
Just think: have you ever seen naked mannequins in [regular] storefronts? ^^'
QuoteSucks to be her O___o Though I've kinda thought that all experimental OSs and stuff would start out something like that...
...But her powers are telekinetic and telepathic? Awesome!
Well I just threw that out, but I'm not really sure. I wanted her to have a unique power, which is why I associate her with the Rahxephon series given so much focus on sound-based attacks.
QuoteWoohoo! And VMS-sama is their leader!
That's a really interesting view on their group. I think they could become one of my favorite groups (especially if they snag Multics-sama as a ally!)
But right not I'm on a bit of an Unix-like kick, so I must put the CIOST on the backburner till I get bored with the *nixes :P
Oh that's right, MULTICS-sama would be a perfect candidate for a CIOST member -- I hadn't thought of that! ^^
Aside from the VMS-sama I owe you for that "special occasion", the only other CIOST members I'd like to draw is eCOS-tan -- who is something akin to eComStation-tan in terms of fighting prowess, youthful energy, and devotion to "VMS-kanjou". Unfortunately, she bears a grudge against RedHat-tan that she entertains from time to time.
QuoteSounds like the wild west or something
Fufu... I still recall when the internet used to be compared to the American Wild West (contrasting with the Canadian one, which was mellow by comparison).
But this is what gives independent OS-tans their charm,... the fact that, despite their small or dwindling userbase, they can still make a living in conditions that would make more affluent and/or spoiled OS-tans curl into a quivering ball. ^.^
QuoteAs for her Unix quirk...I dunno, she's unhealthily obsessed with "killing NT-tan", but can't quite get to her...
Also, she's had more failed collaborations with other OSs than most...perhaps she comes off as quite likable and friendly, but is too grating, pompous and warlike to get along with...?
*takes small taste*
Mmmmm....
Yeah, that there is some mighty tasty UNIX quirk. ^____^
QuoteWhhaaaaa! But she's the closest thing to an Unix heir, she better have dark hair and glasses :..(
Oh course, others I want to draw, like HP UX-tan, would probably be a bit more interesting...maybe a monocle?
Okay okay, we can keep the hair. ^^
But don't feel conpelled to stick with glasses only.
After all,.... glasses are like soooooooo 1960's. ^____^
QuoteI thought an NOS was more like a souped-up router...
I'm quite clueless when it comes to the realm of Mainframes/supercomputers/routers/etc.....
Oh sorry, I actually thought you meant NOS-tan....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDC_NOS_%28Software%29
...who is in fact on my list of Mainframe-tans (although I may have her listed as "KRONOS", though).
Perhaps your assessment is correct -- but the mainframe-tans are also something akin to "godly" telephone operators. ^^
QuoteHey C-chan, have you ever thought of starting an RP in the Games section?
I'd join something like that.
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Along with internet chat, I've also promised myself to never get into RPs again. Long, sad story chock full of horrors, sap and bonified ungenkiness.
But thanks for the consideration, though,... for now, i'm just happy you're drawing and would rather help you with that. ^^
QuoteBut since you mentioned hacking..How would that be done to an OS-tan?
Just like regular mind-control. *Sasser-tan's most overused ability, you'll see when I draw her.*
Or...The other way...You know what I mean..We were just talking about ghost in the shell a little while ago...
I would say both, depending on the OS-tan. Humanoid OS-tans would require standard telekinetic intrusion, cyborg-like OS-tans would require that kind of stick-a-usb-cable-into-the-back-of-their-necks hack that's so common in the GITS TV series,...
And dog OS-tans would require either Pavlonian cues or a big jar of peanut butter in order to properly "hack".... ^.^
Naturally, the more well-defended the OS-tan, the greater the risk of bodily harm to the hacker. Even thinking about hacking UNIX-sama is a surefire way to meet your maker,... slowly and painfully ^.^;
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Hey C-chan, have you ever thought of starting an RP in the Games section?
I'd join something like that.
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Along with internet chat, I've also promised myself to never get into RPs again. Long, sad story chock full of horrors, sap and bonified ungenkiness.
But thanks for the consideration, though,... for now, i'm just happy you're drawing and would rather help you with that. ^^
You know what? I'd like to hear the story of why you're in interactive exile, sempai - although that might be something for a cold, dark winter night...
But that does indeed sound like an interesting idea, though! Would be a shame to make it go to waste. And with the last RPG having died down, we might be able to pull it off. Needs a bit of planning before, though, but hell, that's not something we don't know, is it? I'm on it.
*huddles up in exile*
yeah, it might be cold and dark up north, but it's bright and sunny here. ^^
(although for some lovely tall swedish women, I guess I could make the exodus...)
But the story has a lot to do with my old site/message board, as well as my old personification which,... for reasons of privacy... I'd rather not divulge. Bottom line, though, is that once I get into that kind of stuff, I get into it rather obsessively, and for long stretches of time. So not only would I run the risk again of alienating clearer-minded or peaceful folk, but I would also have to kiss my drawings, my wiki, my tutorial, my Linux "peddling", and even my potential manga goodbye.
Which reminds me,... it's been a long time since we've seen a drawing of our little pirate friend..... `v'
QuoteWoah.
Bravo! Sounds like quite the character to me.
I can see that she'd be enemies with NT-sama, but if she got aggressive with Inu-t then I'd have to step in...
Thanks! :D
Hmmmm...I dunno if she'd pick a fight with Inu-T either...Inu-T has never seemed like much of a fighter to me ;)
There is, however, this:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11364/Inu-T_Battlesuit.png)
So I guess we can't count her out as having a few enemies...
QuoteJust like regular mind-control. *Sasser-tan's most overused ability, you'll see when I draw her.*
I want to see her! Were you planning on using the computer to draw (I forget...)
QuoteOh, that's easy,....
Just think: have you ever seen naked mannequins in [regular] storefronts? ^^'
XD That's what I told myself!
QuoteWell I just threw that out, but I'm not really sure. I wanted her to have a unique power, which is why I associate her with the Rahxephon series given so much focus on sound-based attacks.
I think it'd fit her well...
Plus it would add more variety to the CIOST...!
QuoteOh that's right, MULTICS-sama would be a perfect candidate for a CIOST member -- I hadn't thought of that! ^^
Aside from the VMS-sama I owe you for that "special occasion", the only other CIOST members I'd like to draw is eCOS-tan -- who is something akin to eComStation-tan in terms of fighting prowess, youthful energy, and devotion to "VMS-kanjou". Unfortunately, she bears a grudge against RedHat-tan that she entertains from time to time.
I thought my whole, VMS/Multics-sama "Odd Couple" idea gave it away :P
I almost misread eCOS as eCS (<eComStation) XD...
So she's no fan of Redhat-tan, eh....and loves VMS-sama!
QuoteFufu... I still recall when the internet used to be compared to the American Wild West (contrasting with the Canadian one, which was mellow by comparison).
So, if back a ways the internet was known as the US wild west, then what is it today? I mean, are we up to the free-love Hippie era (with all the open-source software) yet?
Quote*takes small taste*
Mmmmm....
Yeah, that there is some mighty tasty UNIX quirk. ^____^
I still can never make a character as chock-full-o-quirks as Plan9 and FreeBSD-chan, though O_____o
QuoteOkay okay, we can keep the hair. ^^
But don't feel conpelled to stick with glasses only.
After all,.... glasses are like soooooooo 1960's. ^____^
Humph. I likes me meganes!
QuotePerhaps your assessment is correct -- but the mainframe-tans are also something akin to "godly" telephone operators. ^^
Difficult, godly telephone operators, right :P
QuoteI would say both, depending on the OS-tan. Humanoid OS-tans would require standard telekinetic intrusion, cyborg-like OS-tans would require that kind of stick-a-usb-cable-into-the-back-of-their-necks hack that's so common in the GITS TV series,...
You'd think those people in the far future (whether it be GITS, The Matrix, etc...) would have discovered wireless networking! Hello people! It's not the 90s!
Hmmm...so the method of hacking differs on humanoid or cyborg OS-tans...
QuoteAnd dog OS-tans would require either Pavlonian cues or a big jar of peanut butter in order to properly "hack".... ^.^
I think I've hacked my pets by that reasoning...
QuoteNaturally, the more well-defended the OS-tan, the greater the risk of bodily harm to the hacker. Even thinking about hacking UNIX-sama is a surefire way to meet your maker,... slowly and painfully ^.^;
OMG O________O She'd annihilate them...
Besides Unix-sama, I suppose VMS-san would be an unwise match...If she didn't do the attacker in, they'd certainly end up as chum for her pets O__o
Quoteyeah, it might be cold and dark up north, but it's bright and sunny here. ^^
(although for some lovely tall swedish women, I guess I could make the exodus...)
You and your tall women ;)
QuoteBut the story has a lot to do with my old site/message board, as well as my old personification which,... for reasons of privacy... I'd rather not divulge. Bottom line, though, is that once I get into that kind of stuff, I get into it rather obsessively, and for long stretches of time. So not only would I run the risk again of alienating clearer-minded or peaceful folk, but I would also have to kiss my drawings, my wiki, my tutorial, my Linux "peddling", and even my potential manga goodbye.
I guess everyone has a past forum tale of woe : |
I've never gotten into RPs or fanfics....I guess I've always thought the best way to express myself is thought pictures (although I do like making up backstories)...
No rest for the weary....
I recently thought up a Win 3.1-tan and (young) NT-chan comic, about NT's and 3.1-tan's first meeting as "sisters"
NT-chan's sorta intimidated by 3.1-tan, but is fascinated by her beauty...and asks 3.1-tan to make her as pretty as her (ya know, cause NT later ran a 3.1-type GUI?), and ends with a somewhat disinterested 3.1-tan dressing NT-tan up in some of her old clothes and "prettying her up" ;)
I dunno if I'll go ahead...forgive me if I make less than perfect sense as I'm a bit punchy right now O_______________o
QuoteHmmmm...I dunno if she'd pick a fight with Inu-T either...Inu-T has never seemed like much of a fighter to me
There is, however, this:
So I guess we can't count her out as having a few enemies...
O___O
Is that a sword I see in her hands? O__o
QuoteI thought my whole, VMS/Multics-sama "Odd Couple" idea gave it away :P
I almost misread eCOS as eCS (<eComStation) XD...
So she's no fan of Redhat-tan, eh....and loves VMS-sama!
Iyaaaaaah,.... well....
"love" is too strong a word,........ but I suppose she has much admiration for her, especially since VMS-sama effectively took her in (or if you want to be more dramatic about it, "saved her life" so to speak). Not that this has any real-life equivalent -- just something I thought up to add some variety within the CIOST ranks as well (although their stories are more Grecian Tragedies than Soap Operas).
QuoteSo, if back a ways the internet was known as the US wild west, then what is it today? I mean, are we up to the free-love Hippie era (with all the open-source software) yet?
BWAHAHA!! That sounds like you're thinking too highly of us.... ^.^'
It'd be something like the US Roaring 20's still,... and the fact that Net Regulation has been shot down doesn't mean there aren't parties interested in reviving it. If successful, that would be very Great Depression/Dust Bowl-like.
QuoteI still can never make a character as chock-full-o-quirks as Plan9 and FreeBSD-chan, though O_____o
-v-;
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*points to Slackware-tan and SCO-bouzu*
QuoteDifficult, godly telephone operators, right :P
You forgot "damn big", but correct. ^^
If you ever have to deal with them, you're better off pulling your hair out beforehand cause it'd be a rough call. ^^;
QuoteI think I've hacked my pets by that reasoning...
Bwahaha! Ditto on my part. ^^'
"Hacking" is actually another term for programming, which is why "Linux Hackers" are a good thing rather than the 'army of social misfits out to destroy the Net' that the associated imagery may invoke. So yeah, if you've trained your pets to behave a certain way to your commands, than no kidding,... them pets are hacked!! ^V^
QuoteOMG O________O She'd annihilate them...
Besides Unix-sama, I suppose VMS-san would be an unwise match...If she didn't do the attacker in, they'd certainly end up as chum for her pets O__o
Speak of the devil.... ^^'
Regarding the "negative" hackers, that could EASILY explain why VMS-sama and her supporters are never invited to any one of their gatherings. They probably just through in that "uncrackable" moniker just to save face.... ^^;
QuoteYou and your tall women
Yeah,... you're right,... *shakes fist passionately* I just haven't drawn enough of them. How shameful.... ^-^
*cracks whip on self and gets back to work with renewed determination*
QuoteI've never gotten into RPs or fanfics....I guess I've always thought the best way to express myself is thought pictures (although I do like making up backstories)...
Precisely. ^^
One never knows what will happen in the day of tomorrow -- so I'd prefer that my "fun" be productive as well so that there's no regrets. ^___^
QuoteI dunno if I'll go ahead...forgive me if I make less than perfect sense as I'm a bit punchy right now O_______________o
Punchy? Why not Kicky? ;___;
Course I'll say go-for-it, since it'll be nice to see you do a manga strip using mostly vector images this time. ^^
Oooh. Inu-t with a sword. Where was this back when the Hurt-and-heal was still Os-tan based?
I proudly announce, I've started vector-ing in Inkscape. First up Fchan-tan.
I've actually started her, but it's not to the point where I want to post anywhere. Of course soon in line are Techno/Techno-kun I actually have two designs planned for my character.
Then Sasser-tan and Pearl-tan.
Another thing, my RCA Pearl eats batteries like mad.
Really, I turned it off and put it on a shelf above my computer. A month or two later I take it down to listen to some of my MP3s and the battery is dead. It was off the whole time, and no one had used it..
Another alternative hacking methood.......
.....Well....Let's just say..."The Major VS the Os-tans"...
You all know what I mean..Fufufu.
Could using tripcode on 4chan be considered "Hacking" 4chan-tan (if there was one)
Now for a bit of humor.
My Dell Latitude C610 is virus-prone.
I've had to reformat it several times...It has Windows XP Home SP1 with the firewall up and Mcafee installed but still gets a good number of virii.
But the odd thing, when I reformat it the old windows folder in the C: drive stays in there. Taking up 2GB of space..Well as you could guess this fills up the hard drive rather fast, and out of my 31GB hard drive I currently have 7GB Left..
Anyway, yesterday it got a virus and I had to reformat same old same old.
When I start the windows reformat setup..."There is not enough room to install windows on this drive." Yes, at the time it was at 200MB left.
My jaw dropped at the sight of my precious hard drive was completely full.
So I went into C: (thankfully it still ran enough to delete a bit of old data)
And there were 10 DIFFERENT WINDOWS FOLDERS, each about 8GB!
It took a while but eventually I got most of these out. Save for two that wouldn't delete for some reason. "Cannot delete ~Click.exe make sure that you typed it correctly" whever I try to do so.
Now's the funny part, while I was reformating my mother was watching. (Because she'd been surfing on it at the time of the crash)
Me: *whilst installing windows*
I hear Mac OSX-10 and Linux are rather resistant to Viruses.
Mom: Oh cool, what are they?
Me: Other running systems, just like this..
Mom: Ohhh so there are other running systems.
Me: Yeah, but we have WINDOWS..XD *the look on my face at the time*
It was rather hard keeping a straight face during all that.
All in all, after reformating I go into C: and delete a bunch of useless old junk that doesn't even work anymore and free up 7.5 GB
Sorry if I took up the Os-tan discussion to tell my computer based stories. But I couldn't find "The Lighter side of computers" I looked, really.
Anyway, That is all. Goodbye. *Windows 95 shutdown sound plays as Techno leaves*
QuoteSorry if I took up the Os-tan discussion to tell my computer based stories. But I couldn't find "The Lighter side of computers" I looked, really.
Found it (http://ostan-collections.net/topic-526-60.html) ^^'
Quote*story about windoze*
So you don't do an actual reformat when you re-install? Probably why it's so "virus-prone." I think it is a good idea to do at least a 7-pass overwrite when wiping an HD. Typically the only reason for re-installation is a screwed up system, so it's usually not a good idea to keep the old system files ^.^
QuoteAnother alternative hacking methood.......
.....Well....Let's just say..."The Major VS the Os-tans"...
You all know what I mean..Fufufu.
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Ecchi na no wa ikenai tooimasu!!!
QuoteI proudly announce, I've started vector-ing in Inkscape.
Hooray! Way-to-be! Excellent!
I've been really impressed with that program, and I think you will be to. If you have any questions, C-Chan-senpai is and utter genius in such things, and Bella-sama is fast becoming one, so there's plenty of quality help to be found. Good luck!
QuoteO___O
Is that a sword I see in her hands? O__o
...Yes! The DEC tradition lives!
QuoteIyaaaaaah,.... well....
"love" is too strong a word,........ but I suppose she has much admiration for her, especially since VMS-sama effectively took her in (or if you want to be more dramatic about it, "saved her life" so to speak). Not that this has any real-life equivalent -- just something I thought up to add some variety within the CIOST ranks as well (although their stories are more Grecian Tragedies than Soap Operas).
I lie. I hate soap operas, but Grecian tragedies I can get into! ;010
*dramatic-like*
And you know I want to be dramatic about it! So VMS-sama saved her life...?
QuoteBWAHAHA!! That sounds like you're thinking too highly of us.... ^.^'
It'd be something like the US Roaring 20's still,... and the fact that Net Regulation has been shot down doesn't mean there aren't parties interested in reviving it. If successful, that would be very Great Depression/Dust Bowl-like.
*old-timey-accent*
So gov'na, you say we's in the 20s? Pop some ragtime on the Victrola, I feel like doin' the Charleston!
Either that or go for'ah drive in the hossless carriage, and drop by tha speakeasy!
Quote-v-;
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*points to Slackware-tan and SCO-bouzu*
Suuuure, Slackware-tan's a Unix-worshiping suck up and SCO-tan's a maniacal frivolous-lawsuit spewing nutcase...
But they never tried to eat a HEADCRAB!!!
QuoteBwahaha! Ditto on my part. ^^'
"Hacking" is actually another term for programming, which is why "Linux Hackers" are a good thing rather than the 'army of social misfits out to destroy the Net' that the associated imagery may invoke. So yeah, if you've trained your pets to behave a certain way to your commands, than no kidding,... them pets are hacked!! ^V^
Ummmm...let's put it this way...just as I can't program a computer, animals are difficult too :P
As for the "hacker" part, I always assumed hacking was strictly nefarious until recently...
QuoteSpeak of the devil.... ^^'
Regarding the "negative" hackers, that could EASILY explain why VMS-sama and her supporters are never invited to any one of their gatherings. They probably just through in that "uncrackable" moniker just to save face.... ^^;
Hehee...
QuoteYeah,... you're right,... *shakes fist passionately* I just haven't drawn enough of them. How shameful.... ^-^
*cracks whip on self and gets back to work with renewed determination*
Hey, I've always thought VMS-sama and her kinfolk would be quite tall (VMS-sama maybe...5 foot 7 or 8 inches?)
The Unixes, on the other hand, I thought might be a bit on the average/short side...
QuotePunchy? Why not Kicky? ;___;
Course I'll say go-for-it, since it'll be nice to see you do a manga strip using mostly vector images this time. ^^
Ah, there's a time for everything.
And I might go ahead with the comic...you see, I want to do something sweet and just a touch sappy (think, a light maple flavor)...
See, my punchiness still hasn't worn off O________o
But I'm starting to see the difficulties of this...for instance, I'm not sure how 3.1-san would treat the...slightly clingy...young NT-chan. She's always seems a bit distant, but I don't want to make her seem rude...Not to mention, is this really 3.1-tan and NT-chan's first meeting? Why would they have been separated until just right now....or whatever.
Then there's how many panels....I did a rough sketch and it looks like it's gonna be about 12 or so. I'm trying to do most of my work handdrawn (before I vectorize), cause that's where I excel...I guess the shading and stuff will be pretty simplistic and more anime-esqe than usual...
Then, the dialogue. There's a reason the comics I do don't have much, or are comedic....But I try to be game for a challenge! If I wasn't, I'd have quit long ago :P
QuoteI proudly announce, I've started vector-ing in Inkscape. First up Fchan-tan.
I've actually started her, but it's not to the point where I want to post anywhere. Of course soon in line are Techno/Techno-kun I actually have two designs planned for my character.
Cool! I think vector art has a false sense of difficulty attached to it by many, I certainly thought so. But at any rate, I think I took to it faster than I did with PS...
QuoteMy Dell Latitude C610 is virus-prone.
I've had to reformat it several times...It has Windows XP Home SP1 with the firewall up and Mcafee installed but still gets a good number of virii.
I've never had a virus problem with my XP machines....I've gotten one or two, here or there, but I have no regular problem...
WAAAAAAAAAAH!!! I'm so sorry, I left you hanging!! ^0^
*grovels and begs for forgiveness*
Sorry, have been very busy in technical concerns. ;___;
Currently have my EeePC-chan being test run by kids, so the fact that I won't be playing with it means I can get back to some much long-overdue responses. Plus maybe a little drawing.... ^^
*starts typing*
Added after 1 hours 42 minutes: QuoteI proudly announce, I've started vector-ing in Inkscape. First up Fchan-tan.
I've actually started her, but it's not to the point where I want to post anywhere. Of course soon in line are Techno/Techno-kun I actually have two designs planned for my character.
Then Sasser-tan and Pearl-tan.
Awesome, d00d!!!! ^v^
Need a hand at any time,... don't feel afraid to ask The Pig. The Pig,... is here to serve budding vector artists. ^____^
QuoteAnother alternative hacking methood.......
.....Well....Let's just say..."The Major VS the Os-tans"...
You all know what I mean..Fufufu.
Gyaaah,... well, didn't want to ruin our PG rating, but,... yeah, that is correct. ^^;
QuoteMy Dell Latitude C610 is virus-prone.
I've had to reformat it several times...It has Windows XP Home SP1 with the firewall up and Mcafee installed but still gets a good number of virii.
Probably McAfee's virii. ^^;
QuoteAnyway, yesterday it got a virus and I had to reformat same old same old.
When I start the windows reformat setup..."There is not enough room to install windows on this drive." Yes, at the time it was at 200MB left.
My jaw dropped at the sight of my precious hard drive was completely full.
So I went into C: (thankfully it still ran enough to delete a bit of old data)
And there were 10 DIFFERENT WINDOWS FOLDERS, each about 8GB!
It took a while but eventually I got most of these out. Save for two that wouldn't delete for some reason. "Cannot delete ~Click.exe make sure that you typed it correctly" whever I try to do so.
Hmm,.. that's some very odd behavior on the part of the Windows installer. '__'
It sounds like you have an installation disk, though, so maybe next time this happens, you can just try booting off a Linux LiveCD,... wiping the hard drive clean, creating a new partition table, and reformatting to NTFS using GParted,... and then reinstall Windows on the nice new clean hard drive (and install Avast Antivirus too!). Unfortunately, this only works with a separate disk. I hate retailers that embed their recovery partition within the same hard drive, since it does nothing when you're entire hard drive gets fried. ^^;
QuoteMe: *whilst installing windows*
I hear Mac OSX-10 and Linux are rather resistant to Viruses.
Mom: Oh cool, what are they?
Me: Other running systems, just like this..
Mom: Ohhh so there are other running systems.
Me: Yeah, but we have WINDOWS..XD *the look on my face at the time*
It was rather hard keeping a straight face during all that.
Well,... not sure if I'd laugh the same way, since everyone I meet who I show the EeePC to don't know what Linux is or that it's running it. In a recent book fair I went to, I was surrounded by tons of artsy, post-modern, socially-conscious people who,... strangely enough,... were complaining about how they were stuck using Windows PCs because Macs were too expensive. None of them new about Linux or GNU software, and seemed incredulous of my fantastical claims until I showed them the EeePC. Next thing you know, I had eyes sparkling with hope and hands reaching out for copies of my LiveCDs (which I always carry around with me). ^^
Moral of the Story:
"If a picture's worth a thousand words, then the proof is worth a thousand pictures." ^______^
QuoteHooray! Way-to-be! Excellent!
I've been really impressed with that program, and I think you will be to. If you have any questions, C-Chan-senpai is and utter genius in such things, and Bella-sama is fast becoming one, so there's plenty of quality help to be found. Good luck!
Thank you, Tsubashi-dono. ^___^
I should disclaim, however, that it's perfectly possible for me to be an "utter genius" in Inkscape only because I sacrifice common courtesy with Private Messages. -.-'
WAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!! I'M SORRY, TSUBASHI-DONO!!!!!! I DOTH SUCKETH, I ADMITETH!!! ;^0^;
*cries and grovels before Tsubashi-dono*
On a related subject, I'm proud to announce that Inkscape 0.46 has entered its prerelease stage:
http://inkscape.org/
So it won't be long now!!!!!! ^V^
Start picking your wine....
(http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/products/wine/images/champagne.jpg)
QuoteI lie. I hate soap operas, but Grecian tragedies I can get into!
*dramatic-like*
And you know I want to be dramatic about it! So VMS-sama saved her life...?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,..... ¬¬'
Not really in a,... "you jumped into a burning building to save me" kind of way..... ¬____¬
More like in a "you took me in when nobody gave me a chance" kind of thing. ^^'
Again,... not that VMS itself saved ECOS in real life,... but the kind of people developers that got together and salaged/open sourced the system after it had been effectively scrapped by Red Hat Inc. certainly embody the CIOST spirit. Devotion, hope and support for non-UNIX-based alternative operating systems is an integral part to the CIOST philosophy, which is why even characters like BeOS-chan and SkyOS-tan are also a part of it (even though they're proprietary).
Quote*old-timey-accent*
So gov'na, you say we's in the 20s? Pop some ragtime on the Victrola, I feel like doin' the Charleston!
Either that or go for'ah drive in the hossless carriage, and drop by tha speakeasy!
@.@
......
*eyes sparkle* *v*
GYAAAh! That don bring m'mries. ^___^
*bellows out* PU-CHAN!!!! GET DRESSED!!!! WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND DANCE THE CHARLESTON ATOP A BIPLANE IN THE PALE OF MOONLIGHT!!!! ^0^
*sighs, then drools* Bless unsustainable free credit booms, and all their associated wackiness.... ^.^
QuoteSuuuure, Slackware-tan's a Unix-worshiping suck up and SCO-tan's a maniacal frivolous-lawsuit spewing nutcase...
But they never tried to eat a HEADCRAB!!!
It's not too late, though. ^.^
I mean,... as far as I know,... Unixware-tan is still on the table. For all we know, she could eat whole rhinos and Ooliphants and stuff.... ^___^
QuoteHey, I've always thought VMS-sama and her kinfolk would be quite tall (VMS-sama maybe...5 foot 7 or 8 inches?)
The Unixes, on the other hand, I thought might be a bit on the average/short side...
................. ''
5... Foot... 8... inches,.... is.... tall? ''
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............mmmm...
.................mmm-hu.....
.....................mmm-huhu..... ^.^
...........mwahahaha...... ^__^
.....MwaHAHAHA!!! ^v^
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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
*ZOMG ROTFL*
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^___^
That is soooooooooo cute, Bella-san. You're a very funny girl. ^^
*pats her on head*
In any event, I associate height with age and features, so even though I never thought to make one group taller on average than the other, this particular comparison makes a little more sense since the UNIX family has tons of legacy OS-tans that are just,... a tad bit,... old. ^^'
But certainly the modern free BSDs are not short,... the tough-looking OpenBSD-tan, for example, just begs to look the part. ^___^
QuoteAnd I might go ahead with the comic...you see, I want to do something sweet and just a touch sappy (think, a light maple flavor)...
See, my punchiness still hasn't worn off O________o
ZOMG!!! Sweet and sappy?!!! Impossible!!! You're not Bella!!! You're not BELLA!!!!! ^0^
*shakes Bella*
Give back Bella-san,.... you.... Alien, Time Traveler and/or Esper!!! ;^0^;
QuoteBut I'm starting to see the difficulties of this...for instance, I'm not sure how 3.1-san would treat the...slightly clingy...young NT-chan. She's always seems a bit distant, but I don't want to make her seem rude...Not to mention, is this really 3.1-tan and NT-chan's first meeting? Why would they have been separated until just right now....or whatever.
Then there's how many panels....I did a rough sketch and it looks like it's gonna be about 12 or so. I'm trying to do most of my work handdrawn (before I vectorize), cause that's where I excel...I guess the shading and stuff will be pretty simplistic and more anime-esqe than usual...
Then, the dialogue. There's a reason the comics I do don't have much, or are comedic....But I try to be game for a challenge! If I wasn't, I'd have quit long ago :P
Well that's why you have us to help out. ^___^
Most of your concerns really deal with the choreography -- and it's true, you should storyboard (handdrawn) then vectorize them Anime style later since the simplicty will help move this project along very quickly. If it's a serious comic, consider softer tones than the bright, eye-bursting ones I use. ^^'
It's my belief that 3.1-sama is not very distant during the prelude to the so-called "[Commercial] OS War", and probably showers her with much sisterly love -- mixed in with 2 parts unintentional M$ indoctrination (e.g., "Believe in Father", "Father is a Great Man", "Never doubt Father's wishes"). Even while NT-san's skills are improving, 3.1-sama bears no ill well. It's only after 95-tan is born and the two younger OS-tans are taken farther and farther away from the legacy OS-tan, that 3.1-sama's enthusiasm starts to wane.
Add to that several years of having her age weigh upon her, and you have the emotionally-apathetic loligoth we have today -- still capable of showing compassion from time to time, but otherwise not particularly genki.
As far as the dialogue is concerned, consider writing the script first and post it here. I can help you edit and then time it for the panels/storyboards.
QuoteCool! I think vector art has a false sense of difficulty attached to it by many, I certainly thought so. But at any rate, I think I took to it faster than I did with PS...
I can vouch for the authenticiity of Bella-donon's "Winness". ^^
QuoteCurrently have my EeePC-chan being test run by kids, so the fact that I won't be playing with it means I can get back to some much long-overdue responses. Plus maybe a little drawing.... ^^
Gosh, I've never had my computer hijacked by kids :P
QuoteGyaaah,... well, didn't want to ruin our PG rating, but,... yeah, that is correct. ^^;
*Wags finger*
Dirty thoughts are bad for you!
QuoteHmm,.. that's some very odd behavior on the part of the Windows installer. '__'
It sounds like you have an installation disk, though, so maybe next time this happens, you can just try booting off a Linux LiveCD,... wiping the hard drive clean, creating a new partition table, and reformatting to NTFS using GParted,... and then reinstall Windows on the nice new clean hard drive (and install Avast Antivirus too!). Unfortunately, this only works with a separate disk. I hate retailers that embed their recovery partition within the same hard drive, since it does nothing when you're entire hard drive gets fried. ^^;
So, is this a desktop we're talking about?
Cause, I dunno...I love XP, but XP has never worked too well on any desktop I've used O___O
Maybe it has something to do with the recovery partition, or the junkware, or whatever...but XP has just always worked fine on our laptops...
QuoteWell,... not sure if I'd laugh the same way, since everyone I meet who I show the EeePC to don't know what Linux is or that it's running it. In a recent book fair I went to, I was surrounded by tons of artsy, post-modern, socially-conscious people who,... strangely enough,... were complaining about how they were stuck using Windows PCs because Macs were too expensive. None of them new about Linux or GNU software, and seemed incredulous of my fantastical claims until I showed them the EeePC. Next thing you know, I had eyes sparkling with hope and hands reaching out for copies of my LiveCDs (which I always carry around with me). ^^
Moral of the Story: "If a picture's worth a thousand words, then the proof is worth a thousand pictures." ^______^
That is so weird...cause the people 'round here either has a Mac or has used/knows of Linux...and I wouldn't even say these folks are that post-modern or tech savvy. More like touristy small-town chic XD
Course, whenever I try to demonstrate Linux to my friends or whatever, it always ends with a bootup kernel panic, Beryl deciding not to work, or the volume on the VM deciding to quit. >___<
QuoteOn a related subject, I'm proud to announce that Inkscape 0.46 has entered its prerelease stage:
http://inkscape.org/
So it won't be long now!!!!!! ^V^
Start picking your wine....
Woohoo!!!
QuoteUmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,..... ¬¬'
Not really in a,... "you jumped into a burning building to save me" kind of way..... ¬____¬
More like in a "you took me in when nobody gave me a chance" kind of thing. ^^'
Again,... not that VMS itself saved ECOS in real life,... but the kind of people developers that got together and salaged/open sourced the system after it had been effectively scrapped by Red Hat Inc. certainly embody the CIOST spirit. Devotion, hope and support for non-UNIX-based alternative operating systems is an integral part to the CIOST philosophy, which is why even characters like BeOS-chan and SkyOS-tan are also a part of it (even though they're proprietary).
Oh, those crazy rescues are so action movie-ish :P
But VMS-sama taking her in....bwaaaaaah! She's making up for "not having a daughter" as it were...I tells ya, VMS-sama is as kind a person as one could venture to meet! It's just her circumstances that made her the way she is now, but I think deep down she's as nice as she ever was.
As for BeOS and SkyOS, aren't they Unix-like? Course, neither are very well known or anything, so they'd fit in fine, I think...
QuoteGYAAAh! That don bring m'mries. ^___^
*bellows out* PU-CHAN!!!! GET DRESSED!!!! WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND DANCE THE CHARLESTON ATOP A BIPLANE IN THE PALE OF MOONLIGHT!!!! ^0^
*sighs, then drools* Bless unsustainable free credit booms, and all their associated wackiness.... ^.^
LOL....
QuoteIt's not too late, though. ^.^
I mean,... as far as I know,... Unixware-tan is still on the table. For all we know, she could eat whole rhinos and Ooliphants and stuff.... ^___^
Humph. UnixWare-tan is a true lady and eats like it!
Quote5... Foot... 8... inches,.... is.... tall? ''
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......
........
...........
............mmmm...
.................mmm-hu.....
.....................mmm-huhu..... ^.^
...........mwahahaha...... ^__^
.....MwaHAHAHA!!! ^v^
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.....
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
*ZOMG ROTFL*
.....
^___^ That is soooooooooo cute, Bella-san. You're a very funny girl. ^^
*pats her on head*
In any event, I associate height with age and features, so even though I never thought to make one group taller on average than the other, this particular comparison makes a little more sense since the UNIX family has tons of legacy OS-tans that are just,... a tad bit,... old. ^^'
But certainly the modern free BSDs are not short,... the tough-looking OpenBSD-tan, for example, just begs to look the part. ^___^
Oh come on...The US average is like 5' 4'' or something...I think 5' 8'' is quite tall :P
QuoteZOMG!!! Sweet and sappy?!!! Impossible!!! You're not Bella!!! You're not BELLA!!!!! ^0^
*shakes Bella*
Give back Bella-san,.... you.... Alien, Time Traveler and/or Esper!!! ;^0^;
Oh, I'm still Bella...
But who's to say I'm not an Alien, Time Traveler and/or Esper? XD
QuoteWell that's why you have us to help out. ^___^
Most of your concerns really deal with the choreography -- and it's true, you should storyboard (handdrawn) then vectorize them Anime style later since the simplicty will help move this project along very quickly. If it's a serious comic, consider softer tones than the bright, eye-bursting ones I use. ^^'
Yeah, I probably will use somewhat quieter colors...
QuoteIt's my belief that 3.1-sama is not very distant during the prelude to the so-called "[Commercial] OS War", and probably showers her with much sisterly love -- mixed in with 2 parts unintentional M$ indoctrination (e.g., "Believe in Father", "Father is a Great Man", "Never doubt Father's wishes"). Even while NT-san's skills are improving, 3.1-sama bears no ill well. It's only after 95-tan is born and the two younger OS-tans are taken farther and farther away from the legacy OS-tan, that 3.1-sama's enthusiasm starts to wane.
That sounds reasonable...though 3.1-san never seemed like an exactly cheery character to me ;)
QuoteAdd to that several years of having her age weigh upon her, and you have the emotionally-apathetic loligoth we have today -- still capable of showing compassion from time to time, but otherwise not particularly genki.
As far as the dialogue is concerned, consider writing the script first and post it here. I can help you edit and then time it for the panels/storyboards.
Perhaps I'll post the sketches I did, later. I even sort of made different panels and wrote a bit of the dialogue...
But, onto an odd thought I had...for Unix daemon-tans! No, not like the BSD daemons, I think these might be more like faithful helpers to the Unix and Linux-tans or something...
Sendmail-tan might be a mail carrier or something like that, and init-tan could be...the daemon that gives wakeup calls to the Unix-tans (cause init starts all other processes--get it :P), and httpd-tan could be the muse of the server-tans!
Somehow I see them as more human-looking than the BSD daemons; kinda small, shadowy, a bit imp-like and mischievous, and dressed in a classical Greek style...and with the ability to pop in and out of sight. Whether or not you can see them, however, they're always there ;)
*edited cause I thought of more ideas for the daemons*
Quote from: "Bella"Oh come on...The US average is like 5' 4'' or something...I think 5' 8'' is quite tall :P
Maybe for females, but for males, the average is taller (5'9"-ish). In addition, the average height around where I am is much higher. I'm short at 5'10".
QuoteGosh, I've never had my computer hijacked by kids :P
Normally I'd say you're lucky, but strangely-enough I've never had problems with kids using computers. They could destroy everything and anything in existence, but video game consoles and computers are sacred to them.
@___@
QuoteThat is so weird...cause the people 'round here either has a Mac or has used/knows of Linux...and I wouldn't even say these folks are that post-modern or tech savvy. More like touristy small-town chic XD
Course, whenever I try to demonstrate Linux to my friends or whatever, it always ends with a bootup kernel panic, Beryl deciding not to work, or the volume on the VM deciding to quit. >___<
Oh that's just Murphy's Law being evil. ^^
But I'm still wondering about this wonder town of yours where everyone and their dog knows about Linux and Mac. It's like Stepford but in reverse! @v@
QuoteOh, those crazy rescues are so action movie-ish :P
I do have an action movie story idea centered around DSL-kun. Course, it plays more like a Miyazaki film, so the "saving" part is more heart-warming and epic. ^^
QuoteBut VMS-sama taking her in....bwaaaaaah! She's making up for "not having a daughter" as it were...I tells ya, VMS-sama is as kind a person as one could venture to meet! It's just her circumstances that made her the way she is now, but I think deep down she's as nice as she ever was.
*clap clap clap*
Someone give this young lady a medal! She understands it perfectly! ^___^
QuoteAs for BeOS and SkyOS, aren't they Unix-like? Course, neither are very well known or anything, so they'd fit in fine, I think...
Well okay, I kinda meant "UNIX-derived". Given that UNIX-sama is the mother of all modern OSes, it's only natural that non-related OSes may inadvertently work like her (to ensure compatibility at the least).
In the case of BeOS, there are several versions of her drawn as OS-tans (not including Zeta and Haiku), so it's a fairly strong contingent still. I should also point out that TinyOS-tan is something like their own version of DSL-tan (sans the peacefulness).
QuoteOh come on...The US average is like 5' 4'' or something...I think 5' 8'' is quite tall :P
QuoteMaybe for females, but for males, the average is taller (5'9"-ish). In addition, the average height around where I am is much higher. I'm short at 5'10".
Yessssssssss....... T__T
According to some curiously out-dated US government sources, both of youz are correct:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/bodymeas.htm
Actually, it only captures adults past the age of 20, which are probably weighted down by a shriveling "baby boomer" generation. This when the latest generation is exposed to high calorie foods, growth hormones and other assorted chemicals that seem to be making them bigger than ever.
However, it is true that people abide by statistics, live by statistics, and manage clothing and shoe stores by statistics without consulting their plain own eyes. So if it's true that "We Think, Therefore We Are", then I'm officially doomed anywhere I go.... ¯-¯
*sighs sadly*
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That's it! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!! ^0^
*jumps*
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*...on bandwagon*
*buys one-way ticket to Montenegro*
*flies to Montenegro*
*requests politcal asylum*
QuoteOh, I'm still Bella...
But who's to say I'm not an Alien, Time Traveler and/or Esper? XD
Has image in mind...
(http://www.cuhkacs.org/~alanlee/blog/archives/images/komica/super_mikuru.jpg)
Sweeeeeeeeet!!! ^v^
QuoteSendmail-tan might be a mail carrier or something like that, and init-tan could be...the daemon that gives wakeup calls to the Unix-tans (cause init starts all other processes--get it :P), and httpd-tan could be the muse of the server-tans!
Somehow I see them as more human-looking than the BSD daemons; kinda small, shadowy, a bit imp-like and mischievous, and dressed in a classical Greek style...and with the ability to pop in and out of sight. Whether or not you can see them, however, they're always there
Oh I see, you want to draw more UNIX "app-tans", so to speak. That's fine,... in fact, don't forget I've been meaning to draw a BASH-tan for a long time, so I understand perfectly the motivation. ^___^
Sendmail-tan sounds like the Nix equivalent of AOL-tan. ^^;
Hey! Some drawings!
First off, the daemons:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/ud.jpg)
sendmail-tan, I gave bat-like wings. No reason, really, but I suppose they look kinda creepy and cool. Though she uses these only for travel...they sorta transform back into hands when needed.
The upper one is init-tan, who fancies being a wakeup service :P
And the lower one is httpd-tan, who's the patron of all Unix and Linux servers! So I gave her cable hair...
I think another neat thing about the daemons could be they portray themselves differently to different Unix-tans, as different versions or distros use different daemons. I should also note only Unix-or-like-tans can see these creatures.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/312.jpg)
And my comic, so far. This is page 2, I drew a bit of the ending and have an idea for the beginning but this is all I care to post >////<
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/3011.jpg)
And UnixWare-tan.
QuoteBut I'm still wondering about this wonder town of yours where everyone and their dog knows about Linux and Mac. It's like Stepford but in reverse! @v@
Yup, that's an accurate assessment :P
QuoteI do have an action movie story idea centered around DSL-kun. Course, it plays more like a Miyazaki film, so the "saving" part is more heart-warming and epic. ^^
Oooh...I really like Miyazaki movies!
Quote*clap clap clap*
Someone give this young lady a medal! She understands it perfectly! ^___^
C'mon, this is VMS-sama we're talking about! Course I do!
QuoteWell okay, I kinda meant "UNIX-derived". Given that UNIX-sama is the mother of all modern OSes, it's only natural that non-related OSes may inadvertently work like her (to ensure compatibility at the least).
In the case of BeOS, there are several versions of her drawn as OS-tans (not including Zeta and Haiku), so it's a fairly strong contingent still. I should also point out that TinyOS-tan is something like their own version of DSL-tan (sans the peacefulness).
Mother of all modern OSs....
*imagines VMS-sama at a Unix-party*
"Hey! I'm like a third-cousin! I even look like some y'all!" (CDE desktop environment)
I always thought BeOS-tan was underrated...I have to draw her sometime...
QuoteThis when the latest generation is exposed to high calorie foods, growth hormones and other assorted chemicals that seem to be making them bigger than ever.
Really? ;018
I always thought a lot of younger people were quite short...
QuoteHas image in mind...
I LOL'd XD
QuoteOh I see, you want to draw more UNIX "app-tans", so to speak. That's fine,... in fact, don't forget I've been meaning to draw a BASH-tan for a long time, so I understand perfectly the motivation. ^___^
Sendmail-tan sounds like the Nix equivalent of AOL-tan. ^^;
Like a frightening AOL-tan...
EDIT:
Oh yeah, and one last thing:
I was reading about the influences on OSX (which have always been a bit fuzzy and confusing to me)....Take the article for Darwin OS, where it listed OpenStep as being more or less NeXTSTEP renamed. But the actual OpenStep article makes it seem more like an API (it calls it as such: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPENSTEP )
So...I mean...what is it...?
What got me thinking was my (suffering from an artistic case of ADD and all) kinda sorta wanting to do a "battle suit" (or at least battle-ready) NeXTSTEP and BeOS-tan pic :P Perhaps the most underrated and unknown OS rivalry in history!
*fight-announcer voice*
Two OSs enter! But only one will be chosen ancestor of all OSXs!
And here's a very rough vector sketch:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/comicpg2gamma.png)
It's taken me about 15-30 minutes per panel so far...
GAAAAAAH!!!! BELLA-DONO!!!!!! Why do you keep trying to make me swoon?!! >0<
*swoons*
....
*mysteriously types while unconscious*
Added after 19 minutes: Quotesendmail-tan, I gave bat-like wings. No reason, really, but I suppose they look kinda creepy and cool. Though she uses these only for travel...they sorta transform back into hands when needed.
The upper one is init-tan, who fancies being a wakeup service :P
And the lower one is httpd-tan, who's the patron of all Unix and Linux servers! So I gave her cable hair...
I think another neat thing about the daemons could be they portray themselves differently to different Unix-tans, as different versions or distros use different daemons. I should also note only Unix-or-like-tans can see these creatures.
Fufufu... very creative, Bella-dono. ^__^
Well I can say now with confidence that sendmail-tan ain't no AOL-tan. ^v^
Looks equally as ready of defending Gotham as she is of delivery mail. ^.^;
Can't really say much about init-tan, although I'm not sure if she's trying to wake me up or reenact a bed scene from the Exorcist. ^v^;
httpd-tan, though, looks like she oozes charm as much as cables. ^__^
I do recall that in one of VonDaab's pictures, there was another character who had cables in her hair (I believe it was Cat5e-tan?)
QuoteAnd my comic, so far. This is page 2, I drew a bit of the ending and have an idea for the beginning but this is all I care to post >////<
QuoteAnd here's a very rough vector sketch:
It's taken me about 15-30 minutes per panel so far...
Sugooooooooooiness x24!!!!!!! ^v^
The comic is turning out quite beautifully, and 15 minutes is not bad at all for Studio-Ghibili quality animation. ^__________^
Great-o work-o! ^v^
QuoteAnd UnixWare-tan.
Awwwww yeah!!! She looks like the kind of refined, classy lady that would eat an Ooliphant! no doubt about it! ^0^
Fufufu.... ^.^
Just kidding,... ^v^
I can say,... without a shadow of a doubt,... that she takes after her grandmother. ^____________^
QuoteReally?
I always thought a lot of younger people were quite short...
But you live in the Reverse-Stepford, so that explains that.... ^.^
*resumes hitting Montenegro "tourist" spots*
QuoteOh yeah, and one last thing:
I was reading about the influences on OSX (which have always been a bit fuzzy and confusing to me)....Take the article for Darwin OS, where it listed OpenStep as being more or less NeXTSTEP renamed. But the actual OpenStep article makes it seem more like an API (it calls it as such: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPENSTEP )
So...I mean...what is it...?
What got me thinking was my (suffering from an artistic case of ADD and all) kinda sorta wanting to do a "battle suit" (or at least battle-ready) NeXTSTEP and BeOS-tan pic :P Perhaps the most underrated and unknown OS rivalry in history!
*fight-announcer voice*
Two OSs enter! But only one will be chosen ancestor of all OSXs!
Oh boy,... she's at it again. ^^;
I'm not one to talk, though,... but,.... you know......... comic...... ^^;
*points upward*
.....
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....................
*but still quietly drools at thought of BeOS-chan in battle suit* -v-
I doth sucketh, I know.... -.-;
QuoteFufufu... very creative, Bella-dono. ^__^
Well I can say now with confidence that sendmail-tan ain't no AOL-tan. ^v^
Looks equally as ready of defending Gotham as she is of delivery mail. ^.^;
Can't really say much about init-tan, although I'm not sure if she's trying to wake me up or reenact a bed scene from the Exorcist. ^v^;
httpd-tan, though, looks like she oozes charm as much as cables. ^__^
I do recall that in one of VonDaab's pictures, there was another character who had cables in her hair (I believe it was Cat5e-tan?)
Usually I don't give a lot of thought to app-tans, but these I couldn't pass up!
QuoteSugooooooooooiness x24!!!!!!! ^v^
The comic is turning out quite beautifully, and 15 minutes is not bad at all for Studio-Ghibili quality animation. ^__________^
Great-o work-o! ^v^
Like I said before, I'm still trying to think up a beginning and ending...
QuoteI can say,... without a shadow of a doubt,... that she takes after her grandmother. ^____________^
Uh oh...you've got me thinking.... (<always dangerous!!)
I've always assumed Unix-sama was a catchall for most of then Unix releases until the BSD split...But, would Unix System V qualify for it's own -tan? I mean, would any of the time sharing systems qualify for their own -tans? o_o
QuoteOh boy,... she's at it again. ^^;
I'm not one to talk, though,... but,.... you know......... comic...... ^^;
*points upward*
.....
..............
....................
*but still quietly drools at thought of BeOS-chan in battle suit* -v-
I doth sucketh, I know.... -.-;
Scratch that...I think I might draw NeXTSTEP-tan dressed up in a gown! A very punk-gothic gown!
See, I'm repenting for all my ignoring NeXTSTEP-tan. I mean, she's to whom we can trace our beloved OSX-tans back to!
I think I may have had an idea for a great character! I can't believe I never thought of this before...
ITS-tan!
I first heard of this OS yesterday while reading an interesting article:
http://crackmonkey.org/unix.html
It's about Linux (or I should say the history leading up to it,) but they gave a brief mention of ITS. Apparently, it was "optimized to within an inch of it's life" and virtually "inseparables from the PDP-10" which it ran on. After reading about it on wikipedia, I also discovered (among many other interesting facts), that
Quote-All users could talk with instant messaging on another's terminal, or they could use a command (SHOUT) to ask all active users for help.
-To deal with a rash of incidents where users sought out flaws in the system in order to crash it, a novel approach was taken. A command was implemented which anyone could run which caused the system to crash, which took away all the fun and challenge of doing so. It did, however, broadcast a message to say who was doing it.
-Initially there were no passwords, and a user could work on ITS without even logging on. Logging on was considered polite, though, so people knew when you were connected.
Personality-wise, I see her as active and youthful, a bit naive and trusting, and having a pretty good sense of humor. After being made to "crash" against her will, she decides to invite users to crash her, thus removing the novelty of it. She is quite the opposite of the much more formal Multics-sama. I see her biggest enemies as being RSX 11 and VMS-san, because their hardware systems (PDP-11 and VAX) ushered in the discontinuation of her much needed hardware and her ultimate demise(?)
Physically, I see her as being quite small, thin and "flat", young-looking, with short hair (again, the opposite of Multics-sama), not very intimidating at all. Between the fact that it was woefully tied to the PDP-10 and that it was created at an AI lab, I want to say that ITS-tan would have some sort of mech-suit she enjoyed using, or her outfit would incorporate a lot of hardware inspired cues. I've never been one for mech wings,
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11575/normal_1149326397131.jpg)
but if I ever thought they'd work with one -tan, ITS might be it.
As for clothing, however, I'm at a complete and utter loss; I want to make it a bold cross between Victorian styles (In the way I believe Multics-sama and other 60's OSs would dress) with a definite modern twist. And somewhat less cumbersome, too.
I don't know if she's still alive; the last place running ITS (in Sweden) shut it down in 95, but it's still used as a hobby system in emulators...
And all this has gotten me interested in a potential CTSS-tan.
*checks list*
-NeXTSTEP-san in goth ball gown
-ITS-tan
-CTSS-tan
-Unix System V-tan (if need be)
And...
-NT/3.1-sama comic
: |
Fufufu... of course you'd be interested in ITS-san,... she's on the original Annex roster for the Binteji Renmei members. ^___^
QuoteITS (aka "Incompatible Timesharing System")
Never gave her even a moment's thought like you did, though, although i was sure she was going to be very easygoing, or intimidating in some way as only a Vintage-tan can be. ^___^;
Please accept a raincheck on all the other stuff you wrote, as I'm currently juggling between two projects and am about to lose my head. ^^;
*loses head*
Awwwp! Too late..... X___X
*expires*
QuoteFufufu... of course you'd be interested in ITS-san,... she's on the original Annex roster for the Binteji Renmei members. ^___^
QuoteNever gave her even a moment's thought like you did, though, although i was sure she was going to be very easygoing, or intimidating in some way as only a Vintage-tan can be. ^___^;
Oh, so she
is still around, to a certain extent...
And here I always assumed the Binteji Renmei was made of mostly home computer OS-tans that were annihilated by Windows and Macintosh...
*pops in*
Nope,... just a place for old gals who don't mind being called old. ^____^
Of course there'd be more home computer types since they're the meekest of all. But occasionally you'll have a celebrity that's way past her prime and okay with retiring to a gentle[r] life.
*pops back out*
*busy busy busy*
Gees, I was just about to continue C-Chan :P
QuotePlease accept a raincheck on all the other stuff you wrote, as I'm currently juggling between two projects and am about to lose my head. ^^;
Yeah, what's this I hear about an EeePCLOS?! Dang, customization for me is like, uninstalling a program or putting a new theme on XD
QuoteOf course there'd be more home computer types since they're the meekest of all. But occasionally you'll have a celebrity that's way past her prime and okay with retiring to a gentle[r] life.
I dunno if I'd even call ITS a celebrity...it seems when the PDP-10 went out of production, that was about the end of it...
I can imagine a lot of Hollywood actresses from the 70's and 80's could relate to that. ^.^;
(I guess it's an extra incentive to live at the Binteji Renmei, given most of the occupants are old enough to remember those good ol' days) ^____^;
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Oh, and btw...
This wallpaper is graced with the Peerless Presence of the Pandemonious Pu-chan. Someone please upload it to the Gallery. @v@
*drools*
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A few days back I was reading the Multics site. For someone who enjoys sap so much, the Multicians are a veritable forrest of maple trees XD
I came upon an 1961 OS called Compatible Time-Sharing System; I had never heard of it, and even the Annex page had no mention of it (for shame!). But this wouldn't be isolated, as very few seem to remember CTSS.
It turns out CTSS is more or less an ancestor of Multics. I immediately thought up a CTSS-tan...
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/315.jpg)
Here she is with her other "daughter", ITS-tan. I should note the pocket watch is a reference to her time-sharing, and the stripes on her waistcoat a reference to the "Candy Stripe Book", a manual on CTSS.
I have few ideas for her early life; But I do imagine she would have been somewhat selfless, caring, and quiet, the caretaker of Multics-sama and ITS-tan. I don't know if I want her to be related to the children...more like a teacher; something akin to Minix-sensei and Linux-chan.
I think she would have been quite close to Multics-chan, and I think she would have looked up to her, especially during the difficult first few years of her life (though made in 1964/65 Multics wasn't really a self-supporting OS until the late 60s, not to mention the developers came quite close to doing away with the Multics project on several occasions); ITS-tan, born a few years after Multics-chan, would have been somewhat more rebellious to the rest of her "family" and been quite disdainful of their stuffy old-fashioned ways.
CTSS-tan would continue to slip into obscurity as Multics-sama and other mainframe systems started overtaking her work. I suppose around this time Multics-tan was starting to have problems of her own (aka Unix-sama), but she would have been one of the few people who remembered CTSS-tan, and CTSS-tan would have given her one of her prized possessions, the pocket watch she's pictured with. It future pix I'll show Multics-sama with this watch (as a nod to Multic's time-sharing, which is usually depicted in comics and stuff as a pocket watch or grandfather clock)
Less and less of CTSS-tan's crew tried to learn about her or work with her, but at least a few managed to; although a group of students fought to keep her working, the higher-ups thought this impractical. She finally passed along to the proverbial "big mainframe in the sky" some time in 1973.
And onto a hopefully cheerier note...
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/317.jpg)
Center and right: Plan9-tan! I've often had trouble designing outfits for her; so I kinda took elements from some characters from Plan 9 from Outer Space (including space-people and Vampira XD) and incorporated it into her dress :P The would be casual wear in the center, and a gown on the right. On the left is Inferno-chan, and the right bottom is a young Plan9-tan.
EDITED ON 12/25:
Oh yeah, and I've discovered a few more ancient OSs that may make for good -tans,
DTSS (whom would be a native NH-ite, BTW!):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_Time_Sharing_System
And GECOS (aka GCOS):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Comprehensive_Operating_System
A GCOS-tan would be lot more difficult, as GCOS was a whole family of OSs. The only thing I know about her is she was around when Unix-sama was born, and probably worked with her afterward (I read GCOS was used to write some of the programs for Unix before it could support itself, and did other things alongside early Unix as well)
Same here, Bella-dono. Spent a little too much time tying up loose ends, and not nearly enough time swooning at your latest and greatest. ^_____^
But don't worry,... tomorrow I'm gonna FAWN over your masterpieces with so much vigor, you'd think I turn into a deer. ^___^
*drum roll*
*laughs at own stupid joke* ^V^
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..........
Okay, I'll just shut up and swoon. ^___________^;
*swoons*
*Whistles and taps foot impatiently*
Well, I've dug up a bit more info on GCOS, and had a few thoughts for a -tan. Apparently a myth is that GCOS is a "watered-down clone of DOS/360", but in reality they're very different. If anything, GCOS is more advanced, and it's development was parallel with Multics.
I dunno if GCOS-tan would qualify as a mainframe goddess, as there seems to be a bit of a (self-made) trend toward a lot of old mainframe OSs being normal sized. I see her as a little more plainly dressed than many other 60's OS-tans, with short hair and, yep, glasses.
Quote*Whistles and taps foot impatiently*
BWAAAAAH!!!! Are you by any chance a travel agent? Cause you're sending me on a real Guilt Trip! TvT
*laughs at own stupid [stolen] joke*
Okay, okay, I'll give. ^^;
*starts typing*
Added after 1 hours 16 minutes: QuoteA few days back I was reading the Multics site. For someone who enjoys sap so much, the Multicians are a veritable forrest of maple trees XD
I'm gonna venture to guess that you've found your lot in life. ^__^
I'm also gonna venture to guess that you'll be first in line when they start handing out LiveCDs of Lultics. ^____^;
Speaking of which, I noticed (not surprisingly) that there's been a helluva lot more activity at their site after it's been open-sourced. Now you definitely understand why I claim that Open Source is the key to "immortality" for an OS, hence the reason why I sympathize with OS/2ers for wanting to do the same for their beloved system.
QuoteI came upon an 1961 OS called Compatible Time-Sharing System; I had never heard of it, and even the Annex page had no mention of it (for shame!).
Oh suuuuuuuuure, rub it in why dontcha? `v'
*sniffles*
And after all I've done for you. ^~^
Goodbye cruel world! ^0^
*jumps into sausage vat*
QuoteBut this wouldn't be isolated, as very few seem to remember CTSS.
To add to what VonDaab earlier mentioned in that NetBSD thread, I think much older OS-tans have the least risk of being overly symbolic,... if only because there are so few people that remember or have used such systems to begin with. ^___^
So someone like GMOS-tan has to be conceived entirely from scratch like I did for Siya, even if the OS-tan ends up being not even remotely like the original system. ^___________^;
Others, like EXEC-tan who's defining characteristic is 15 meter-long hair, only has fabricated symbolism that may or may not be true to the original system (or in her case, systems) either. ^^;
QuoteIt turns out CTSS is more or less an ancestor of Multics. I immediately thought up a CTSS-tan...
Here she is with her other "daughter", ITS-tan. I should note the pocket watch is a reference to her time-sharing, and the stripes on her waistcoat a reference to the "Candy Stripe Book", a manual on CTSS.
Well I think if I say the word "cute" and swoon one more time, you'll punt me out of your thread like an untreated football for lack of originality. ^^;
So let me come up with a new and exciting word,... and then swoon. ^_____^
*pulls random word out of his behind*
How about,.... they are "enchanting"? *v*
*swoons*
The fact that these two OS-tans are so ancient just blows me away! @o@
It's very funny how very quickly and very effectively we made UNIX-sama seem like a young pup. ^^;
But our tragic old matriarch certainly has a very refined beauty -- not Cleopatric like Multics-sama, or primal like UNIX-sama, but pleasant,... in an old-timey kinda way. ^^
"Daughter" ITS-tan is quite pretty too (and sassy to boot), and certainly does point out the inevitable fact that all OS-tans are descended from only a mere handful of common ancestors. ^v^
QuoteI have few ideas for her early life; But I do imagine she would have been somewhat selfless, caring, and quiet, the caretaker of Multics-sama and ITS-tan.
Fufu... envisioning CTSS-sama and Multics-sama, I keep getting the image of Xenix-sama and SCO-bouzu in my head. ^.^
It's such a shame that UNIX-sama likely never knew her -- otherwise, CTSS-sama probably wouldn't have been as dismissive of her from the sound of it, and might have compensated for the lack of an immediate mother figure. But alas, there's no use crying over a spilt milk factory. -.-
QuoteI don't know if I want her to be related to the children...more like a teacher; something akin to Minix-sensei and Linux-chan.
As much as I hate to admit it, I think that would be the best course to take since I want to make sure that the "Classical" OS-tan era is as stuffy and bourgeouis as possible, and hence has little tolerance for mother-child bonds that last more than a few days. ^^;
If anything, UNIX-sama would be one of the major trend-setters for extended family-run operations, to the point that now in modern times its a completely RARITY to see individualistic OS-tans.
QuoteI think she would have been quite close to Multics-chan, and I think she would have looked up to her, especially during the difficult first few years of her life (though made in 1964/65 Multics wasn't really a self-supporting OS until the late 60s, not to mention the developers came quite close to doing away with the Multics project on several occasions); ITS-tan, born a few years after Multics-chan, would have been somewhat more rebellious to the rest of her "family" and been quite disdainful of their stuffy old-fashioned ways.
Fufufu... ITS-sama agrees with me, I see. ^.^
Very well,... make her yet another early trend-setter. ^^
QuoteCTSS-tan would continue to slip into obscurity as Multics-sama and other mainframe systems started overtaking her work. I suppose around this time Multics-tan was starting to have problems of her own (aka Unix-sama), but she would have been one of the few people who remembered CTSS-tan, and CTSS-tan would have given her one of her prized possessions, the pocket watch she's pictured with. It future pix I'll show Multics-sama with this watch (as a nod to Multic's time-sharing, which is usually depicted in comics and stuff as a pocket watch or grandfather clock)
Less and less of CTSS-tan's crew tried to learn about her or work with her, but at least a few managed to; although a group of students fought to keep her working, the higher-ups thought this impractical. She finally passed along to the proverbial "big mainframe in the sky" some time in 1973.
That is indeed a very sweet yet sad premise, not unlike similar situations in RL.
You do realize that, aside from the plethora of stories that could be created during this "Classical Era", one could also devise DaVinci Code-style searches for these past truths that a curious, modern OS-tan might like to undertake (say,... upon coming across a certain pocketwatch).
QuoteCenter and right: Plan9-tan! I've often had trouble designing outfits for her; so I kinda took elements from some characters from Plan 9 from Outer Space (including space-people and Vampira XD) and incorporated it into her dress :P The would be casual wear in the center, and a gown on the right. On the left is Inferno-chan, and the right bottom is a young Plan9-tan.
GYAAAAAAH!!!! Is there no end to this unrelenting barrage of gorgeous work? @o@
She looks lovely as the Elmira-type, but for sure that new space suit you drew for her fits her like a very sexy suade glove. ^v^
My eyes have locked and loaded on it as her de facto flagship design!! ^V^
And is that cascading off her hair, or the most beautiful drooping bunny ears I've seen in a character to date? ^____^
Inferno-chan I'm actually still not feeling, though,... perhaps a little more hair?
QuoteOh yeah, and I've discovered a few more ancient OSs that may make for good -tans,
DTSS (whom would be a native NH-ite, BTW!):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_Time_Sharing_System
And GECOS (aka GCOS):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Comprehensive_Operating_System
A GCOS-tan would be lot more difficult, as GCOS was a whole family of OSs. The only thing I know about her is she was around when Unix-sama was born, and probably worked with her afterward (I read GCOS was used to write some of the programs for Unix before it could support itself, and did other things alongside early Unix as well)
Fufu,... I think you're gonna notice that there is no shortage of time-sharing systems. I will say this, though,... at least you are helping me populate the Mainframe Guild (a previously neglected faction, much to my personal shame). ^.^
Quote
I dunno if GCOS-tan would qualify as a mainframe goddess, as there seems to be a bit of a (self-made) trend toward a lot of old mainframe OSs being normal sized. I see her as a little more plainly dressed than many other 60's OS-tans, with short hair and, yep, glasses.
Or not. ^^'
I should admit that being a member of the Guild is not necessarily a lifetime responsibility -- no OS-tan is actually born a Mainframe Goddess, and a Mainframe Goddess has the right to retire back to a normal[-sized] life (naturally, stripped of much of her power as well as any memory of sensitive information). Sure the prospect of being a powerful goddess sounds enticing to the young, naive and powermongering, but unless you're a "special" individual like z/OS-sama, you'd quickly find out how painfully unstimulating, unrewarding and unsociable it is to live in this self-styled Mount Olympus.
Given that the Mainframe Guild is composed of rotating members -- with only a few permanent members who feel they can't do anything better with their lives -- it shouldn't come as a surprisee that a lot of old-school OS-tans (including UNIX-sama herself!) are honorary Mainframe-tans. I guess in their day it was considered a right of passage. ^.^
Of course, times change and the Mainframe Guild isn't as prestigious (or even much talked about) as it once was when "bigger" was not only considered better, but was essentially the only way of doing things. That hasn't stopped a few Linux-tans from trying to get into the Guild, though -- whether they were successful or not,... is classified. ^__~
QuoteI'm gonna venture to guess that you've found your lot in life. ^__^
I'm also gonna venture to guess that you'll be first in line when they start handing out LiveCDs of Lultics. ^____^;
Either that or hope I'll get a mainframe for my birthday XD
It's odd, at first the Multicians really come off as self-righteous and fanatical. Now I think they have every right to be how they are...I mean, just about everyone on the development team gave up on Multics before it was even finished...Considering it was an inspiration for Unix and therefore, like, every advanced OS afterward, that probably would have changed the course of computing history for the worse...
QuoteSpeaking of which, I noticed (not surprisingly) that there's been a helluva lot more activity at their site after it's been open-sourced. Now you definitely understand why I claim that Open Source is the key to "immortality" for an OS, hence the reason why I sympathize with OS/2ers for wanting to do the same for their beloved system.
Speaking of immortality...
http://www.multicians.org/corby-letter.html
ZOMG! They compared Multics to Linux! Kinda...O__O
QuoteTo add to what VonDaab earlier mentioned in that NetBSD thread, I think much older OS-tans have the least risk of being overly symbolic,... if only because there are so few people that remember or have used such systems to begin with. ^___^
Hmmm...yes, but I think I managed to work in a bit of symbolism into CTSS-san. Still don't know the details of her, though... (though I should add her outfit's going to include a lot of red and blue, cause they ran CTSS on a "red machine and blue machine" at MIT)
QuoteSo someone like GMOS-tan has to be conceived entirely from scratch like I did for Siya, even if the OS-tan ends up being not even remotely like the original system. ^___________^;
Others, like EXEC-tan who's defining characteristic is 15 meter-long hair, only has fabricated symbolism that may or may not be true to the original system (or in her case, systems) either. ^^;
EXEC-tan really needs to go to a barber shop! XD
Yes, older characters are more difficult to conceptualize...but I think they're well worth the extra work...
QuoteThe fact that these two OS-tans are so ancient just blows me away! @o@
It's very funny how very quickly and very effectively we made UNIX-sama seem like a young pup. ^^;
I know...I used to think OS-tan civilization started with Unix-sama >/////< Heh...after what I've read, I'm a bit inclined to think OS-tan civilization ended with Unix-sama XD
*The Goddess empties bookshelf on my head*
*gets knocked out*
QuoteBut our tragic old matriarch certainly has a very refined beauty -- not Cleopatric like Multics-sama, or primal like UNIX-sama, but pleasant,... in an old-timey kinda way. ^^
"Daughter" ITS-tan is quite pretty too (and sassy to boot), and certainly does point out the inevitable fact that all OS-tans are descended from only a mere handful of common ancestors. ^v^
*comes to*
Yes, I think CTSS-tan is just sort of a good-natured, quiet person, with a rather unfortunate later life that ended in complete abandonment and obscurity. I suppose the only living OS-tans that remember her are ITS and Multics-sama.
Quote"Daughter" ITS-tan is quite pretty too (and sassy to boot), and certainly does point out the inevitable fact that all OS-tans are descended from only a mere handful of common ancestors. ^v^
*Start singing "We are Family"*
QuoteFufu... envisioning CTSS-sama and Multics-sama, I keep getting the image of Xenix-sama and SCO-bouzu in my head. ^.^
It's such a shame that UNIX-sama likely never knew her -- otherwise, CTSS-sama probably wouldn't have been as dismissive of her from the sound of it, and might have compensated for the lack of an immediate mother figure. But alas, there's no use crying over a spilt milk factory. -.-
Hmmmm....Yeah, I think Unix-sama would have been sequestered in her youth, probably the only other OS-tan she knew was GECOS-tan, and she'd be far from the motherly type : \
QuoteAs much as I hate to admit it, I think that would be the best course to take since I want to make sure that the "Classical" OS-tan era is as stuffy and bourgeouis as possible, and hence has little tolerance for mother-child bonds that last more than a few days. ^^;
If anything, UNIX-sama would be one of the major trend-setters for extended family-run operations, to the point that now in modern times its a completely RARITY to see individualistic OS-tans.
Well, back in the day, it seems a lot more OSs were individually created "from scratch". Now a lot of OSs run in groups, like NT or OSX.
Heeheee...so Unix-sama started the trend! Probably to compensate for her upbringing ;)
*imagines stereotypically motherly, clingy Unix-sama*
*shutters*
*has another book flung at head*
QuoteFufufu... ITS-sama agrees with me, I see. ^.^
Very well,... make her yet another early trend-setter. ^^
For a somewhat obscure OS, ITS had a lot of innovations...
QuoteThat is indeed a very sweet yet sad premise, not unlike similar situations in RL.
You do realize that, aside from the plethora of stories that could be created during this "Classical Era", one could also devise DaVinci Code-style searches for these past truths that a curious, modern OS-tan might like to undertake (say,... upon coming across a certain pocketwatch).
Oh yeah, I bet a curious OS-tan could dig up some dirt...
QuoteGYAAAAAAH!!!! Is there no end to this unrelenting barrage of gorgeous work? @o@
She looks lovely as the Elmira-type, but for sure that new space suit you drew for her fits her like a very sexy suade glove. ^v^
My eyes have locked and loaded on it as her de facto flagship design!! ^V^
And is that cascading off her hair, or the most beautiful drooping bunny ears I've seen in a character to date? ^____^
Inferno-chan I'm actually still not feeling, though,... perhaps a little more hair?
You really like that outfit? I just sorta cobbled it together ;)
Yes, those are bunny ears!
As for Inferno-chan, I think she's quite cute...and I mean, in color her hair will be bright reddish (more like a natural red, not fire-engine red), and eyes...maybe yellow or orange?
QuoteOr not. ^^'
I should admit that being a member of the Guild is not necessarily a lifetime responsibility -- no OS-tan is actually born a Mainframe Goddess, and a Mainframe Goddess has the right to retire back to a normal[-sized] life (naturally, stripped of much of her power as well as any memory of sensitive information). Sure the prospect of being a powerful goddess sounds enticing to the young, naive and powermongering, but unless you're a "special" individual like z/OS-sama, you'd quickly find out how painfully unstimulating, unrewarding and unsociable it is to live in this self-styled Mount Olympus.
Oh, so all mainframes aren't necessarily goddesses?
I dunno, I think some of the modern mainframes (like Z/OS, as you noted) would be goddesses...but back in the day, weren't mainframes somewhat more commonplace, and therefore more common themselves?
BTW, I did a quick sketch of GECOS-tan:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/319001-1.jpg)
QuoteGiven that the Mainframe Guild is composed of rotating members -- with only a few permanent members who feel they can't do anything better with their lives -- it shouldn't come as a surprisee that a lot of old-school OS-tans (including UNIX-sama herself!) are honorary Mainframe-tans. I guess in their day it was considered a right of passage. ^.^
Of course, times change and the Mainframe Guild isn't as prestigious (or even much talked about) as it once was when "bigger" was not only considered better, but was essentially the only way of doing things. That hasn't stopped a few Linux-tans from trying to get into the Guild, though -- whether they were successful or not,... is classified. ^__~
I see...thanks for informing me about their group ;)
I wonder what Linux-tans you're talking about...*ponders*
Added after 6 minutes: Oh, I nearly forgot; I was reading about Minix 3 yesterday. What a uniquely designed OS, certainly one of the few I've heard of that can "self-heal"!
But they say it's about as related to Minix (1 or whatever) as, I quote "Windows 3.1 and Windows XP are: in name only"
So would Minix and Minix 3 be the same -tan? Cause for all the OS differences, I almost want them to be the same character.
Probably it's like the Linux-tans and the Mac-tans who have one generic character and many (in the case of Linux I'd guess one hundred or more) specific forms...
But them... MS-DOS 6.22 had very few in common with MS DOS 1.0 and they are the same MS-DOS-tan, so I guess one character would suffice.
QuoteProbably it's like the Linux-tans and the Mac-tans who have one generic character and many (in the case of Linux I'd guess one hundred or more) specific forms...
But them... MS-DOS 6.22 had very few in common with MS DOS 1.0 and they are the same MS-DOS-tan, so I guess one character would suffice.
Now that I read more about Minix 1/Minix 3, I can support that. Although, it seems in recent years Minix-tan has gotten in better graces with the Unixes (IE, Minix 3 has more Unix apps). Her powers of self-healing have probably gotten stronger over the years, too...
Okay, super-quick question...
What's an somewhat young, playful member of the Vintage-tans? I'm working on a pic, it'll probably end up being Oric Atmos-tan, but I happened to wonder if there's perhaps a better conceptualized vintage-tan I can use ;)
QuoteI mean, just about everyone on the development team gave up on Multics before it was even finished...Considering it was an inspiration for Unix and therefore, like, every advanced OS afterward, that probably would have changed the course of computing history for the worse...
Fufu... kinda reminds me a little of the story of OSC, no? ^^;
QuoteSpeaking of immortality...
http://www.multicians.org/corby-letter.html
ZOMG! They compared Multics to Linux! Kinda...O__O
That is so amazing. ^_____^
QuoteEXEC-tan really needs to go to a barber shop! XD
Yes, older characters are more difficult to conceptualize...but I think they're well worth the extra work...
Sorry, impossible. She gets hurt everytime her hair is cut, and shaving it off completely is akin to a death sentence. The HUGE Rapunzelian hair references the high complexity of the old UNIVAC computers she ran on (you know, vacuum tubes, punch cards, all that cool 1950's stuff). ^^
Aside from keeping it long, the vintage-tans also have to help comb and groom her hair almost daily, which has become something of a daily chore. And the fact that she can contribute little more than just interesting stories and the 'voice of experience", the more hotblooded and impatient among the vintage-tans consider this to be a less-than-desirable chore.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Univac-model.jpg)
QuoteI know...I used to think OS-tan civilization started with Unix-sama >/////< Heh...after what I've read, I'm a bit inclined to think OS-tan civilization ended with Unix-sama XD
*The Goddess empties bookshelf on my head*
*gets knocked out*
Fufu... serves you right. ^___^
In my preconcepts, I always had Exec-tan in mind and even a hypothetical ancestral Colossus-sama, not to mention DOS/360 and other permament Mainframe-tans. Which is why I was always careful to call the Goddess the "Mother of all
Modern OSes", since she only changed history but didn't quite start it. ^.^
QuoteYes, I think CTSS-tan is just sort of a good-natured, quiet person, with a rather unfortunate later life that ended in complete abandonment and obscurity. I suppose the only living OS-tans that remember her are ITS and Multics-sama.
A lot of the really really REALLY ancient OS-tans (EXEC included) I figured are quiet and good-natured. Conservative-minded and superstitious maybe, but not stuffy or bellicose like the ensuing generation.
QuoteHmmmm....Yeah, I think Unix-sama would have been sequestered in her youth, probably the only other OS-tan she knew was GECOS-tan, and she'd be far from the motherly type : \
*has image of medieval-style apprenticeship and stares at UNIX-sama with pity* ^^;
Quote*imagines stereotypically motherly, clingy Unix-sama*
*shutters*
*has another book flung at head*
You can see now why I envision pre-UNIX war UNIX-sama as having a certain GodFather-like quality to her. ^______^;
QuoteYou really like that outfit? I just sorta cobbled it together
Hah! If that's what you call "cobbling" it together, then serve me up some peach cobbler! ^^
*laughs at own stupid joke*
QuoteAs for Inferno-chan, I think she's quite cute...and I mean, in color her hair will be bright reddish (more like a natural red, not fire-engine red), and eyes...maybe yellow or orange?
A light Red-Orange approximates natural red, no? '__'
I definitely would go for orange eyes at least. ^^
QuoteOh, so all mainframes aren't necessarily goddesses?
Well that's not quite what I meant. Power-wise, they all become "goddesses" when they become members of the Guild. However, unless (like z/OS) they're bred and raised for the position, no one is born with that power automatically (or at least this has never been broadly publicized).
Size-wise, Mainframe-tans can be any size they want, but due to the size of the Guild facility it's more convenient to stay as giants. In the rare event they need to venture out into the "Desktop" world (aka the "mortal" world), they can reduce themselves to a more portable size (or at least use an avatar).
QuoteI dunno, I think some of the modern mainframes (like Z/OS, as you noted) would be goddesses...but back in the day, weren't mainframes somewhat more commonplace, and therefore more common themselves?
Fufufu... the same can be said about Greek/Norse/Egyptian/Chinese/Indian/Mayan/etc mythology, and precisely that's what I base the whole Mainframe-tan principle on. As in our RL past, the world was filled to the brim with Gods and Goddesses of every kind, from Goddesses of War and Harvest, to Gods of Insomnia and Ear Wax. True, the majority of OS-tans would have been Goddesses; but don't forget in our world the OS-tans are more the celebrities, leaders and figures of legend, whereas users, programs and hardware are more the general population.
Also like in RL, as the role of "Goddesses" became obsolete, their number has reduced to the point where there's literally only a skeleton crew managing the Guild and carrying on the tradition.
QuoteBTW, I did a quick sketch of GECOS-tan:
Can I borrow your Humina Humina quote? ^________^
QuoteI see...thanks for informing me about their group
I wonder what Linux-tans you're talking about...*ponders*
^____________________________________^
*hides hats away*
QuoteSo would Minix and Minix 3 be the same -tan? Cause for all the OS differences, I almost want them to be the same character.
Fufufu... if you did that, I couldn't get away with just having a single Amiga-tan. ^^;
QuoteAlthough, it seems in recent years Minix-tan has gotten in better graces with the Unixes (IE, Minix 3 has more Unix apps). Her powers of self-healing have probably gotten stronger over the years, too...
Fufu... wouldn't want the Great Sensei to lag TOO far behind her student, no? ^____^
QuoteWhat's an somewhat young, playful member of the Vintage-tans? I'm working on a pic, it'll probably end up being Oric Atmos-tan, but I happened to wonder if there's perhaps a better conceptualized vintage-tan I can use
*sadness*
Sorry,... AtariDOS-tan would've fit the role P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y, but I've yet to draw her beyond the sketching phase. She will cameo in the Zerosanity Christmas special, though, so if you're willing to wait a little while longer. ^^
Otherwise, ORIC-chan isn't a bad choice either. If I recall, she doesn't have a color drawing does she? ^.^
QuoteFufu... kinda reminds me a little of the story of OSC, no? ^^;
Hehee...yeah...but I guess both have a pretty good ending.
QuoteThat is so amazing. ^_____^
Another really great article I found (I think I may have posted it before, I forget)
http://crackmonkey.org/unix.html
It's about the 20-some year chain of events that lead to Linux, more specifically, Slackware. Not a very technical read, but very fascinating how so many influences and ideas gave rise to the OS (group) we know today,
QuoteSorry, impossible. She gets hurt everytime her hair is cut, and shaving it off completely is akin to a death sentence. The HUGE Rapunzelian hair references the high complexity of the old UNIVAC computers she ran on (you know, vacuum tubes, punch cards, all that cool 1950's stuff). ^^
Aside from keeping it long, the vintage-tans also have to help comb and groom her hair almost daily, which has become something of a daily chore. And the fact that she can contribute little more than just interesting stories and the 'voice of experience", the more hotblooded and impatient among the vintage-tans consider this to be a less-than-desirable chore.
So no $5000 trips to the salon for her, eh? Her hair makes an interesting reference to the EXEC's complexity. I almost want to do something a bit like that with ITS-tan (since ITS was highly dependent on it's hardware, too).
But, gosh, I don't envy her caretakers O____O
QuoteFufu... serves you right. ^___^
In my preconcepts, I always had Exec-tan in mind and even a hypothetical ancestral Colossus-sama, not to mention DOS/360 and other permament Mainframe-tans. Which is why I was always careful to call the Goddess the "Mother of all Modern OSes", since she only changed history but didn't quite start it. ^.^
I think Multics-sama would want to steak claim to the title "Mother of all Modern OSs"
And, yes, I am trying to get the Goddess to smite me.
QuoteA lot of the really really REALLY ancient OS-tans (EXEC included) I figured are quiet and good-natured. Conservative-minded and superstitious maybe, but not stuffy or bellicose like the ensuing generation.
Fits them well, I think. Early on things were pretty calm; when Multics and Unix and the new generation of OSs came about it seems things got a little more cutthroat; then came the great OS wars on a minicomputer level; then there was the PC wars.... ;026
Yeah, it's pretty much been bedlam up until recently, since everyone seems to have settled into their own market. But I somehow sense Linux could be cookin' trouble for some in the home computer market ;) I should note, the best kind of trouble.
Quote*has image of medieval-style apprenticeship and stares at UNIX-sama with pity* ^^;
Not to mention her early days working as a...WTF?! Helper in a patent office?!
*I read Unix was used in 71' at a patent office...I'm not sure to what extent, though*
QuoteYou can see now why I envision pre-UNIX war UNIX-sama as having a certain GodFather-like quality to her. ^______^;
Oh man. Now you're comparing Unix-sama to the
Godfather (I suppose your talking about the movie)?
I knew it! She's a true, blue, New Jerseyite!!! (yeah, I'm playing off the terrible gangster stereotype of the state)
QuoteA light Red-Orange approximates natural red, no? '__'
I definitely would go for orange eyes at least. ^^
No, more like a dark, but realistic bright red...kinda hard to explain...
QuoteWell that's not quite what I meant. Power-wise, they all become "goddesses" when they become members of the Guild. However, unless (like z/OS) they're bred and raised for the position, no one is born with that power automatically (or at least this has never been broadly publicized).
Size-wise, Mainframe-tans can be any size they want, but due to the size of the Guild facility it's more convenient to stay as giants. In the rare event they need to venture out into the "Desktop" world (aka the "mortal" world), they can reduce themselves to a more portable size (or at least use an avatar).
Oh, I see...
QuoteFufufu... the same can be said about Greek/Norse/Egyptian/Chinese/Indian/Mayan/etc mythology, and precisely that's what I base the whole Mainframe-tan principle on. As in our RL past, the world was filled to the brim with Gods and Goddesses of every kind, from Goddesses of War and Harvest, to Gods of Insomnia and Ear Wax. True, the majority of OS-tans would have been Goddesses; but don't forget in our world the OS-tans are more the celebrities, leaders and figures of legend, whereas users, programs and hardware are more the general population.
Also like in RL, as the role of "Goddesses" became obsolete, their number has reduced to the point where there's literally only a skeleton crew managing the Guild and carrying on the tradition.
Yeah, that is a RL parallel...
QuoteFufufu... if you did that, I couldn't get away with just having a single Amiga-tan. ^^;
Between Kami-Tux and you, I agree that one Minix-tan would work. That'd certainly be neat how she's gained so much power, to the point where she'd be impervious to any illness. She's probably indestructible!
Save the Minix-san, save the world! (<Outdated
Heroes reference, folks)
QuoteSorry,... AtariDOS-tan would've fit the role P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y, but I've yet to draw her beyond the sketching phase. She will cameo in the Zerosanity Christmas special, though, so if you're willing to wait a little while longer. ^^
Otherwise, ORIC-chan isn't a bad choice either. If I recall, she doesn't have a color drawing does she? ^.^
Hmmm...maybe I will...There's a couple others in the pic, including...*OMG* Miggy-sama!
I can always work on Miggy while I wait to see her...
I see Oric-chan as a bit mischievous and tomboyish, with short black hair and orange-brown eyes. And wearing a backwards baseball cap ;)
I normally do nothing but lurk, but I now feel the need to give out some information...
First of all, FYI, OpenSTEP was just a renamed NeXTSTEP, and OpenStep (pay careful attention to the case!) was the API, which is currently being used in OS X (in modified form), and in something called GnuStep...
CTSS was Open Sourced back in 2004 (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/23/1941257), but after some talk about getting it to work on an emulator, nobody seemed to really care...
EXEC lives! Big stuffy 'dinosaur' company Unisys still manufactures and sells machines for two ancient mainframe lines. One of them, the so called 'Clear Path Dorado Series (http://www.unisys.com/products/mainframes/os__2200__mainframes/index.htm)' springs from the old UNIVAC line, being compatible with the Univac 1108, or so I hear. The OS, OS 2200, is just a modernized EXEC 8. Since the CPU's used in these machines are single-chip microprocessors, I would say that EXEC is not completely unfamiliar with modernity.
The other mainframe architecture, by the way, the 'Libra Series Servers (ttp://www.unisys.com/products/mainframes/mcp__mainframes/index.htm)' is derived from the Burroughs Large Systems architecture, running MCP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCP_%28Burroughs_Large_Systems%29), another ancient (1961) and innovate OS.
Radically different machines. They'd make an odd couple. Alas, it does seem that Unisys intends to eventually abandon the old hardware architectures... (http://www.itjungle.com/big/big051507-story01.html)
As for GCOS (Still supported by Groupe Bull, though they've apparently decided to stop making the CPUs), one interesting tidbit that you did not mention is that it was probably one of Multics biggest enemies, since they both ran on the same hardware and were supported by the same company. Eventually GCOS won, which is why the last Multics system was shut down in 2000 while Bull is still selling GCOS mainframes.
Hey! ;hi I'm always glad to see some visitors to our conjectury part of the forum ;010
QuoteFirst of all, FYI, OpenSTEP was just a renamed NeXTSTEP, and OpenStep (pay careful attention to the case!) was the API, which is currently being used in OS X (in modified form), and in something called GnuStep...
Exactly what I suspected...
QuoteCTSS was Open Sourced back in 2004, but after some talk about getting it to work on an emulator, nobody seemed to really care...
Wow...this I didn't know.
If anything, this makes CTSS-san's story even sadder; She could have been brought back, but no one cared enough to do so :..|
QuoteEXEC lives! Big stuffy 'dinosaur' company Unisys still manufactures and sells machines for two ancient mainframe lines. One of them, the so called 'Clear Path Dorado Series' springs from the old UNIVAC line, being compatible with the Univac 1108, or so I hear. The OS, OS 2200, is just a modernized EXEC 8. Since the CPU's used in these machines are single-chip microprocessors, I would say that EXEC is not completely unfamiliar with modernity.
The other mainframe architecture, by the way, the 'Libra Series Servers' is derived from the Burroughs Large Systems architecture, running MCP, another ancient (1961) and innovate OS.
Radically different machines. They'd make an odd couple. Alas, it does seem that Unisys intends to eventually abandon the old hardware architectures...
I don't think anyone doubted she didn't live ;)
But some more interesting things I didn't know. I wonder what a MCP-tan would be like....
QuoteAs for GCOS (Still supported by Groupe Bull, though they've apparently decided to stop making the CPUs), one interesting tidbit that you did not mention is that it was probably one of Multics biggest enemies, since they both ran on the same hardware and were supported by the same company. Eventually GCOS won, which is why the last Multics system was shut down in 2000 while Bull is still selling GCOS mainframes.
Oohoohoo....GCOS's rivalry with Multics could be worked into an incredibly important part of young Unix-sama's backstory (as she was quite a rival with Multics-sama as well).
Perhaps GCOS-tan sparked, even fueled, some of the young Unix-sama's hatred of Multics-sama (cause nobody's born with that sort of bitterness). One could even theorize GCOS-tan was key in getting the two relatives into a battle; If that's so, I think she's just taken on a rather sinister air (I always imagined her as a bit cold and distant, especially to an enemy)
Despite all of GCOS-tan's help in her creation, I suppose after Unix-sama's success in the fight, the two would have had a falling out . What she did to Multics-sama was always a lingering regret of hers (maybe not if even on a conscious level)...
JohnQMetro, I have to say you really know your stuff about historic OSs. You've really given me some interesting ideas for OS-tan backstory...I hope we see more of you in the future!
Wow! Bella-san's usual winnage, plus some very valuable knowledge that can be used to flesh out some of our older gals. Somehow I can't suppress the urge to sing "Johnny B Goode" right about now. ^____^
Unfortunately, currently busy-as-a-bee (yet again,... this is getting boring... T__T) so no time to pour out replies like I usually do. But when I return fresh and eager, you can bet I'll have more than a few things to say about many things, especially now that I know that EXEC-tan's usefulness can be bumped a little further. ^^
Oh, and thanks to anyone who's left some kind comments here and in the other art threads. ^^
*slaps raincheck notice on thread and trots off*
QuoteWow! Bella-san's usual winnage, plus some very valuable knowledge that can be used to flesh out some of our older gals. Somehow I can't suppress the urge to sing "Johnny B Goode" right about now. ^____^
Johnny B Goode?
Johnny B Goode? The epic rivalries, the inter-corporational intrigue and horrific blood feuds make me think more along the lines of
O Fortuna (for those who don't know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_fortuna )
Oh yeah. And VMS-sama's heritage (via RSX-11) comes from some OS from the 1959 that nobody's ever heard of: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sys.pdp10/msg/51870e4fc2d88da5?output=gplain
Now now, I'm talking about our new good friend Johnny Q. ^^
In any event, I'm back, but only intermittently. Not sure how much I can respond to tonight before I collapse over my EeePC, but I'll try my best.... -v-
*types away furiously*
BOND SCIENCE XD
QuoteAnother really great article I found (I think I may have posted it before, I forget)
http://crackmonkey.org/unix.html
It's about the 20-some year chain of events that lead to Linux, more specifically, Slackware. Not a very technical read, but very fascinating how so many influences and ideas gave rise to the OS (group) we know today,
I couldn't read all of it, but so far it looks very cool. ^^
I'm gonna start seriously posting some of these links at the Wiki so that we don't forget them for reference purposes. (and hey! what better way to honor an OS-tan than to download her, or her source code? ^___^)
QuoteSo no $5000 trips to the salon for her, eh? Her hair makes an interesting reference to the EXEC's complexity. I almost want to do something a bit like that with ITS-tan (since ITS was highly dependent on it's hardware, too).
But, gosh, I don't envy her caretakers O____O
Forget the caretakers,... don't envy me, who has to eventually draw her someday. ^____^;
Aside from the hair, I still don't have much of a grasp of how she would look like. For some odd reason, I keep envisioning her as a grandmotherly Mahoro (which sounds redundant, doesn't it? O___o).
QuoteI think Multics-sama would want to steak claim to the title "Mother of all Modern OSs"
And, yes, I am trying to get the Goddess to smite me.
Haha! Unix-sama's gonna smite ya! ^v^
See? I seek salvation by simply calling Multics-sama the "Grandmother of all Modern OSes".
*sighs with overconfidence*
Learn from a pro, kid. ^____^
QuoteFits them well, I think. Early on things were pretty calm; when Multics and Unix and the new generation of OSs came about it seems things got a little more cutthroat; then came the great OS wars on a minicomputer level; then there was the PC wars....
Yeah, it's pretty much been bedlam up until recently, since everyone seems to have settled into their own market. But I somehow sense Linux could be cookin' trouble for some in the home computer market I should note, the best kind of trouble.
I take it that cool rock song that's played at the end of "V for Vendetta" would probably fit the bill for that kind of.... "best kind of trouble". ^.^
QuoteNot to mention her early days working as a...WTF?! Helper in a patent office?!
*I read Unix was used in 71' at a patent office...I'm not sure to what extent, though*
Oh dear gawds. ^^'
On the other hand, even the greatest minds in recent history probably started their life's journey working in fast food restaurants, and/or sweeping floors. ^.^'
QuoteOh man. Now you're comparing Unix-sama to the Godfather (I suppose your talking about the movie)?
I knew it! She's a true, blue, New Jerseyite!!! (yeah, I'm playing off the terrible gangster stereotype of the state)
I take it I'm not helping in diminishing the New Jersey references here, no? ^______^;
QuoteNo, more like a dark, but realistic bright red...kinda hard to explain...
Well if it is realistic-looking, than clearly it's a Bella-san specialty. ^.^
(although ironically, you want to make your own hair pink). ^v^;
QuoteYeah, that is a RL parallel...
If I ever do flesh out these stories, you're gonna eventually find out that a lot of them are deeply rooted in current and historical events and/or lore. Why else why I be so hesitent about publishing 2.0-chan's story during the 90's period, when it's clearly going to rattle more than a few cages (aside from being very sad and cruel, of course).
QuoteBetween Kami-Tux and you, I agree that one Minix-tan would work. That'd certainly be neat how she's gained so much power, to the point where she'd be impervious to any illness. She's probably indestructible!
Save the Minix-san, save the world! (<Outdated Heroes reference, folks)
*draws blank at TV reference* '___'
The only character who I've made physically indestructible is RISC OS-tan, although now I wonder if I might've been premature in doing that. ^^;
QuoteHmmm...maybe I will...There's a couple others in the pic, including...*OMG* Miggy-sama!
I can always work on Miggy while I wait to see her...
I see Oric-chan as a bit mischievous and tomboyish, with short black hair and orange-brown eyes. And wearing a backwards baseball cap
*eyes sparkle with glee*
I really really REALLY want to give you a hug now! *v*
But yeah, almost forget that, in case you don't want to wait, the adorable QDOS-chan is a vintage-tan who's still abnormally-young-looking and playful to boot (although not so much with toys as much as broken junk).
In any event, just to recap on Johnny Q's contributions and impact to the OS-tan world thereof:
- CTSS-tan LIVES!!!! ....................But no one seems to have noticed. ^^'
However, I reckon much sap potential exists for her because of this. Imagine a scenario where lowly DSL-kun finds her and discovers she's his ancestor? That is, assuming she's actually "alive" in the conventional sense of the word. ^___^;
- EXEC-tan is still being actively maintained! I worried that I was unfairly keeping her characer alive while killing off a hole bunch of others, but now it makes perfect sense. ^^
- GCOS-tan has much potential now as a "sinister" character as Bella-san described. ^.^
My question now is,... what's to become of GCOS-tan now in modern times? Clearly she made enemies with the wrong family, and its doubtful if she's CIOST material. ^___^
Perhaps we can have her live the cloistered life of a long-term Guild member, wondering day in and day out why she ever fought tooth and nail to live like an omnipotent slave? ^^;
Or more simply,... we can just make her a "loner". ^___^
QuoteOh yeah. And VMS-sama's heritage (via RSX-11) comes from some OS from the 1959 that nobody's ever heard of: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sys.pdp10/msg/51870e4fc2d88da5?output=gplain
Either way you look at it, the past is really proving to be so much more interesting than Windows-Mac intrigues. Had you not chosen to thik outside the box, you would have missed out on so many precious buckets of sap. ^___^
QuoteI couldn't read all of it, but so far it looks very cool. ^^
I'm gonna start seriously posting some of these links at the Wiki so that we don't forget them for reference purposes. (and hey! what better way to honor an OS-tan than to download her, or her source code? ^___^)
Good idea....
QuoteForget the caretakers,... don't envy me, who has to eventually draw her someday. ^____^;
Aside from the hair, I still don't have much of a grasp of how she would look like. For some odd reason, I keep envisioning her as a grandmotherly Mahoro (which sounds redundant, doesn't it? O___o).
Yeah, I have trouble with the physical aspects of older OS-tans as well...
QuoteI take it that cool rock song that's played at the end of "V for Vendetta" would probably fit the bill for that kind of.... "best kind of trouble". ^.^
Tehee...yes, something along the lines of that ;)
QuoteI take it I'm not helping in diminishing the New Jersey references here, no? ^______^;
No, you ain't.
I just can't get over it, the whole "NJ style of programming" thing...XD
QuoteWell if it is realistic-looking, than clearly it's a Bella-san specialty. ^.^
(although ironically, you want to make your own hair pink). ^v^;
Yeah, imagine that...though I don't have the gall to dye my hair in RL ;)
I think my more "realistic" style of drawing is rooted more in my "western-style" artwork more than anything....
QuoteIf I ever do flesh out these stories, you're gonna eventually find out that a lot of them are deeply rooted in current and historical events and/or lore. Why else why I be so hesitent about publishing 2.0-chan's story during the 90's period, when it's clearly going to rattle more than a few cages (aside from being very sad and cruel, of course).
Oh, fine way to get a sap enthusiast as I to cease and desist! I wouldn't have even thought of 2.0-chan till you brought her up, but now you've got me curious. But I shan't ask!
Seriously.
Quote*draws blank at TV reference* '___'
The only character who I've made physically indestructible is RISC OS-tan, although now I wonder if I might've been premature in doing that. ^^;
Isn't RISC uncrackable or uncorruptable or something? I dunno if Minix-sensei would be quite as powerful, but she certainly wouldn't suffer from any diseases or whatever...
Quote*eyes sparkle with glee*
I really really REALLY want to give you a hug now! *v*
But yeah, almost forget that, in case you don't want to wait, the adorable QDOS-chan is a vintage-tan who's still abnormally-young-looking and playful to boot (although not so much with toys as much as broken junk).
No, I may just go with Oric-tan (or wait and see if AtariDOS would fit). I mean, I have little to no idea about the history of Oric and all, but isn't that what the Vintage-tans are all about: totally unknown and forgotten OS-tans?
Quote- CTSS-tan LIVES!!!! ....................But no one seems to have noticed. ^^'
However, I reckon much sap potential exists for her because of this. Imagine a scenario where lowly DSL-kun finds her and discovers she's his ancestor? That is, assuming she's actually "alive" in the conventional sense of the word. ^___^;
Like I said in my thread, she has the potential to be brought back to life but I don't think release of source code warrants this (even though this breaks the rule with Multics-sama, but let us hope the Multicians can deliver)
Quote- GCOS-tan has much potential now as a "sinister" character as Bella-san described. ^.^
My question now is,... what's to become of GCOS-tan now in modern times? Clearly she made enemies with the wrong family, and its doubtful if she's CIOST material. ^___^
Perhaps we can have her live the cloistered life of a long-term Guild member, wondering day in and day out why she ever fought tooth and nail to live like an omnipotent slave? ^^;
Or more simply,... we can just make her a "loner". ^___^
Good question....
Yes, usually I'd say she had a right to be a rival to Multics-sama (it's business!), but if she got Unix-chan involved... : |
As for current affiliations...it could be a bit funny if she was the "odd woman out" in the CIOST...The Guild is a good idea, too...
Sorry I haven't posted here in some time. I just haven't been able to keep up with all of these newly-made-but-represent-OSes-considered-ancient-by-todays-standards OS-tans. I don't know much about them but they are interesting and beautifully-drawn!
I am also curious about this 2.0-chan sap story! Especially the cruel parts! I want to know! 0__0 (I thought that life would have improved for her in the 90's because MS was doing so well)
The impression I get is that the GCOS/Multics rivalry had nothing to do with Unix. Rather, what happened is that in 1970, the same year when the original Multics partnership collapsed, Honeywell picked up GE's computer department, and with it, the GE mainframe line, it's OS, GECOS-III (our GCOS), and what was left of the Multics project .
Multics was designed to run on GE mainframes, and after renaming GECOS-III, GCOS-3, the Honeywell execs apparently decided they liked it less than Multics. In the early 70's, the plan was to cut GCOS-3 down to an emulation later hosted on Multics, and make Multics the OS for their big mainframes.
As you can probably imagine, the people in the computer department inherited from GE were pretty upset. Their OS was to be killed off by an academic interloper! In the internal politics that followed, GCOS-3 was saved, but Multics remained as an internal competitor.
The final demise of Multics at Honywell/Bull is something that took many years. From what I have read, the main problem for Multics was the developers and technologists hired to work on Multics were outnumbered by the GCOS people. As a result, Multics was unable to make headway against GCOS in the political fight, and was finally canned when Honywell decided to trim it's product line.
Some clarifications: The Multics enemy I'm talking about is GECOS-III/GCOS-3/GCOS-8, which dates from 1968, and is still supported and sold by Bull.
GCOS-4, GCOS-6, and GCOS-7 were completely different operating systems produced by Honeywell/Bull. Apparently, they just really liked the name 'GCOS'.
GECOS-II was the predecessor of GECOS-III. There was no GECOS-I, or GCOS-5.
QuoteSorry I haven't posted here in some time. I just haven't been able to keep up with all of these newly-made-but-represent-OSes-considered-ancient-by-todays-standards OS-tans. I don't know much about them but they are interesting and beautifully-drawn!
Thanks! I bet it is hard to keep up with our giant, rambling posts and all ;)
QuoteI am also curious about this 2.0-chan sap story! Especially the cruel parts! I want to know! 0__0 (I thought that life would have improved for her in the 90's because MS was doing so well)
See what you've started, C-Chan? :P
2.0-chan was rather coldly thrown out of the family by the 90's, I believe:
(scroll down a ways)
http://ostan-collections.net/topic-460-60.html
I'm also going to randomly conjecture that the cruel part of her story has something to do with her being essentially the weakest, most singled-out member of the Windows family during the OS wars, and therefor having a proverbial target on her back for every M$ enemy in the land : |
QuoteThe impression I get is that the GCOS/Multics rivalry had nothing to do with Unix. Rather, what happened is that in 1970, the same year when the original Multics partnership collapsed, Honeywell picked up GE's computer department, and with it, the GE mainframe line, it's OS, GECOS-III (our GCOS), and what was left of the Multics project .
Again, I'm stunned by your knowledge of OS history!
I think the Unix/Multics battle doesn't really have a RL equivalent, as Unix slowly conquered the market. I guess how I tied GCOS into it, however, is simply though GCOS being used to develop Unix and it's programs before it was self-supporting...just a bit of creative license ;)
We take a lot of creative license 'round here.
QuoteMultics was designed to run on GE mainframes, and after renaming GECOS-III, GCOS-3, the Honeywell execs apparently decided they liked it less than Multics. In the early 70's, the plan was to cut GCOS-3 down to an emulation later hosted on Multics, and make Multics the OS for their big mainframes.
As you can probably imagine, the people in the computer department inherited from GE were pretty upset. Their OS was to be killed off by an academic interloper! In the internal politics that followed, GCOS-3 was saved, but Multics remained as an internal competitor.
Hmmm...so Multics nearly did away with GCOS...?
*I sees great OS-tan story potential*
QuoteThe final demise of Multics at Honywell/Bull is something that took many years. From what I have read, the main problem for Multics was the developers and technologists hired to work on Multics were outnumbered by the GCOS people. As a result, Multics was unable to make headway against GCOS in the political fight, and was finally canned when Honywell decided to trim it's product line.
Wow...every day I keep finding out more and more why the Multicians are so passionate about their OS ;)
QuoteSome clarifications: The Multics enemy I'm talking about is GECOS-III/GCOS-3/GCOS-8, which dates from 1968, and is still supported and sold by Bull.
GCOS-4, GCOS-6, and GCOS-7 were completely different operating systems produced by Honeywell/Bull. Apparently, they just really liked the name 'GCOS'.
GECOS-II was the predecessor of GECOS-III. There was no GECOS-I, or GCOS-5.
I read about that on Wikipedia. Damn those people in charge of OS naming at Honeywell/Bull XD
I'm going to guess GECOS II/III/8 will be the same -tan, at different ages (which is the usual protocol)
As for GECOS 4, 6, and 7...Hmmm...I dunno. I read GCOS 6 was a minicomputer OS, maybe it'll be a separate -tan...
*leans in*
Hmmm...is it possible that CIH is too an evil virus to be -tan'd? Just wondering, seeing how famous it is and still nothing done.
*whistle*
Bella-san, please don't kill me. ^__________^;
*having run out of IOUs, C-chan files for Chapter 11 Response Bankruptcy*
Oh, and Nejin-san what in the world are you talking about? @__@
CIH-tan just showed up in the latest Zerosanity Xmas special comic. -v-;
Added after 13 hours 6 minutes: QuoteOh, fine way to get a sap enthusiast as I to cease and desist! I wouldn't have even thought of 2.0-chan till you brought her up, but now you've got me curious. But I shan't ask!
Seriously.
Oh fine, way to get a guilt trip a gullible pig into divulging my sad, trauma-inducing story. TvT
Nah, I might do it anyway,... just kinda not publish it openly, you know.
But first, I gotta finish all my outstanding projects,... and as you know, that means a helluva lot of stuff. T___T;
QuoteIsn't RISC uncrackable or uncorruptable or something? I dunno if Minix-sensei would be quite as powerful, but she certainly wouldn't suffer from any diseases or whatever...
Aa sou.... so we'll just call her ultimately-immune then. ^.^
QuoteNo, I may just go with Oric-tan (or wait and see if AtariDOS would fit). I mean, I have little to no idea about the history of Oric and all, but isn't that what the Vintage-tans are all about: totally unknown and forgotten OS-tans?
Yeah I saw you stuck with ORIC-tan, and probably a good call given my Block. But you know I do at least have a rough sketch of AtariDOS-tan in my gallery. If you have trouble envisioning her character, think of her physically akin to Al from the Last Exile series, but dressed as a late-19th century magician. Unlike her close friends PETchan and ][-chan, she rarely acts like she's 30 years old, and aside from some very antiquated mannerisms could easily pass for a cute, innocent, playful little girl.
Quote
As for current affiliations...it could be a bit funny if she was the "odd woman out" in the CIOST...The Guild is a good idea, too...
In other words, she's fated to live out the rest of her years as "Old Hag" or "Tortured Soul". I take it we'll have to flip a coin on this one. ^^;
QuoteAgain, I'm stunned by your knowledge of OS history!
I think the Unix/Multics battle doesn't really have a RL equivalent, as Unix slowly conquered the market. I guess how I tied GCOS into it, however, is simply though GCOS being used to develop Unix and it's programs before it was self-supporting...just a bit of creative license
We take a lot of creative license 'round here.
Yeah, I was just about to concur that we only mirror real-life scenarios superficially. Windows ME sucked and few people used it relative to XP, but one could easily make the case that the OS-tan artwork says otherwise (and in some instances has... "prodded" people to reinstalling it somewhere). Plus a lot of the scenarios in the Mac Manga and Zerosanity simply make mincemeat of history in favor of bucketloads of humor. ^^'
Creative license is used whenever maximum story impact can be achieved. ^.^
QuoteHmmm...so Multics nearly did away with GCOS...?
*I sees great OS-tan story potential*
Well that would certainly give GCOS-san the motive to do what she did. ^___^
Quote
I read about that on Wikipedia. Damn those people in charge of OS naming at Honeywell/Bull XD
I'm going to guess GECOS II/III/8 will be the same -tan, at different ages (which is the usual protocol)
As for GECOS 4, 6, and 7...Hmmm...I dunno. I read GCOS 6 was a minicomputer OS, maybe it'll be a separate -tan...
Well you know how I feel about creating too many OS-tans for systems that have hitherto remained unknown to the general readership. But if I can't be helped... well,... I'm all for making GECOS-tan one OS-tan and GCOS-tan the other, and simply have the naming confusion be a reoccuring [potentially humorous] theme in their story. Not unlike what we have planned for Mac OS9-tan and OS-9-tan. ^.^;
QuoteI just haven't been able to keep up with all of these newly-made-but-represent-OSes-considered-ancient-by-todays-standards OS-tans. I don't know much about them but they are interesting and beautifully-drawn!
Point of fact, the Wiki's List of OS-tans is starting to look more and more like an Operating System history book. ^^;
QuoteI am also curious about this 2.0-chan sap story! Especially the cruel parts! I want to know! 0__0 (I thought that life would have improved for her in the 90's because MS was doing so well)
QuoteSee what you've started, C-Chan? :P
2.0-chan was rather coldly thrown out of the family by the 90's, I believe:
(scroll down a ways)
http://ostan-collections.net/topic-460-60.html
I'm also going to randomly conjecture that the cruel part of her story has something to do with her being essentially the weakest, most singled-out member of the Windows family during the OS wars, and therefor having a proverbial target on her back for every M$ enemy in the land : |
Thank you, Bella-san, for referring to that thread. ^^
*activates dark and brooding mode*
Regarding your conjecture, I'd have to say "yes" and "no". Yes, that figures into the story, but no that only represents 1/5 of her hardship, as the majority of the OSes and programs she meets are too busy keeping themselves alive, or ignorant of all things Microsoft up until war broke, to consider punishing her for their plight. There is one emotional scene slated where she offers herself to be beaten with impunity as long as they don't touch her mother. Contrary to peacetime civility, the refugees take her up on her offer, but stop soon after realizing that thrashing a young, defenseless girl doesn't make them feel any better.
The remainder of the story's cruelty centers around three very harrowing experiences. At first when she meets Xenix-sama for the last time only to taste the last vestiges of the UNIX wars, and second where she unintentionally finds herself at the dawn of the commercial OS war in a population center trapped in the crossfire. More horrible than bodily harm to her are the things she actually sees and witnesses that would generally go unrecorded thereafter.
And yet the worst part is reserved for last, after she takes her mother to the relative "safety" of an isolated wasteland (this aspect of the story would borrow heavily from "Grave of the Fireflies"). With her emotions numb, food and clean water scarce, and the non-stop preoccupation with the "baggage" she has to drag around, 2.0-chan starts exhibiting uncharacteristic cruelty and even signs of dementia, culminating ultimately to what she considers the most unforgivable act of her life.
Presumably she's in a very sorry state when Amiga-tan finds her years later, after which a fledgling Binteji Renmei (basically just Amiga-tan and ][-chan) do their best to rehabilitate her and reunite mother and daughter. With the group now 4-member strong, and the war reduced to sporadic proxy skirmishes among superpowers, the story improves from that point onward as they take in more refugees, and begin to rebuild lives and restore dignity as best they can.
QuoteOh, and Nejin-san what in the world are you talking about? @__@
CIH-tan just showed up in the latest Zerosanity Xmas special comic. -v-;
WAHT
I did not see'd!
So I was trying to find some iota of distinction for G(E)COS-tan (she's Multics-sama's nemesis, so she had better be awesome!), so I read this old site detailing it's history. As it turns out, there's not a lot of info but I got a few references:
-GECOS was designed largely in Phoenix, AZ; it's designers were peeved at the Multics project, thinking it too radical.
-GECOS (8 ) had a lot of support in Japan in the late 60's, early 70's.
-A family of Lions was the logo for a (GE?) machine GECOS ran on.
-GECOS and Multics battled each other on a market level for every bit of support and continuation. Some sites running Multics were shut down to use GECOS; and vice-versa. No decisive victory here.
Using this, I think I came up with a neat design:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/323.jpg)
As you can see, she's wearing kinda a cross between a furisode and some sort of traditional Victorian style gown, with an image of...yes, a phoenix (also that's a feather in her hair decoration). And she has a cross between an obi and a corset ;)
I tried to make her hair sort of lion-like, and I suppose it'll be a light brown color. She'll probably have yellowish colored eyes, I dunno if the glasses will work or not.
She has a katana and is holding...one of those smaller swords (I forgot the name). Somehow I think swordfighting might make a good defense tactic for her, I dunno if she has any "magical" abilities or not. One would think...but after all, perhaps Multics-sama loosing her powers "leveled the playing field" between the two of them (as the two OSs continually were a threat to one another for years.)
Attitude wise, I see GECOS-tan as being quite a traditionalist, with a deep loathing of Multics-sama mostly for the grandiose promises being made along with her, not to mention her emotional state in early life, and the radical ups-and-downs of her creators. I've heard Multics had countless close calls with being killed off, but GECOS didn't quite have this roller coaster ride...at least not at first.
I suppose when GECOS-tan discovered the plans for Unix-sama's creation, she would have wanted to help, mostly because it promised to take everything about Multics and turn it upside down; to abandon the complexity for sheer simplicity. To GECOS-tan, Unix-sama probably would have sounded like the ultimate weapon against her enemy, and, well, I guess she turned out to be.
And I also discovered a veritable family of Multics-sama's:
ftp://ftp.stratus.com/pub/vos/multics/tvv/general.html#tag14
Now, arguably these could be daughters of Multics-sama; but I think it'd be better if these are just faithful followers of her, if only to avoid a cliched situation (IE, VMS and NT, Multics and Unix, CTSS and ITS, it has to stop somewhere!). I guess one could compare the Multics-likes to followers of a Greek hero cult (similar to ancestor worship, but with no relation).
First off, Primos (aka, PR1MOS, or Multics-in-a-shoebox)-tan.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/324.jpg)
I tried to make her look a bit old-fashioned, but still modern (<oxymoron). I see her as having, yup, darker hair, and teal eyes. Leggings are a bit of an 80s-ish touch, and the armband is a reference to Primos's original name: DOS.
On the left, you see she has a marking on her back. It's a tattoo of wings (why do a lot of my characters have tattoos?). She got it as an homage to Multics-sama, I suppose after her death.
I also have ideas for a VOS-tan; I suppose she's dressed somewhat fancily too, but perhaps with a police/military touch (cause VOS is used in a lot of critical applications and is fault-tolerant).
I should also note Apollo Domain, a -tan Siya drew a concept of, is somewhat related to Multics.
Also, AIX Unix is supposedly a lot like Multics. This is right from their site:
QuoteThe IBM System/38 maps files into the one-level store just like Multics, and so does AIX, down underneath where it is hard to find because it is trying to pretend it is a Unix. Both of these systems are derivatives of IBM FS, which never saw the light of day, but which borrowed the file mapping/one-level-store idea from TSS/360, which in turn got it from Multics.
QuoteBella-san, please don't kill me. ^__________^;
*having run out of IOUs, C-chan files for Chapter 11 Response Bankruptcy*
*sends "collectors" after C-Chan*
QuoteOh fine, way to get a guilt trip a gullible pig into divulging my sad, trauma-inducing story. TvT
Nah, I might do it anyway,... just kinda not publish it openly, you know.
But first, I gotta finish all my outstanding projects,... and as you know, that means a helluva lot of stuff. T___T;
I said nothing -___-
QuoteYeah I saw you stuck with ORIC-tan, and probably a good call given my Block. But you know I do at least have a rough sketch of AtariDOS-tan in my gallery. If you have trouble envisioning her character, think of her physically akin to Al from the Last Exile series, but dressed as a late-19th century magician. Unlike her close friends PETchan and ][-chan, she rarely acts like she's 30 years old, and aside from some very antiquated mannerisms could easily pass for a cute, innocent, playful little girl.
I can't wait to see AtariDOS-tan!
QuoteIn other words, she's fated to live out the rest of her years as "Old Hag" or "Tortured Soul". I take it we'll have to flip a coin on this one. ^^;
Probably nowadays, yes, but for a long time her and Multics-sama were epic enemies!
QuoteYeah, I was just about to concur that we only mirror real-life scenarios superficially. Windows ME sucked and few people used it relative to XP, but one could easily make the case that the OS-tan artwork says otherwise (and in some instances has... "prodded" people to reinstalling it somewhere). Plus a lot of the scenarios in the Mac Manga and Zerosanity simply make mincemeat of history in favor of bucketloads of humor. ^^'
Creative license is used whenever maximum story impact can be achieved. ^.^
Exactly!
QuoteWell you know how I feel about creating too many OS-tans for systems that have hitherto remained unknown to the general readership. But if I can't be helped... well,... I'm all for making GECOS-tan one OS-tan and GCOS-tan the other, and simply have the naming confusion be a reoccuring [potentially humorous] theme in their story. Not unlike what we have planned for Mac OS9-tan and OS-9-tan. ^.^;
It should be noted G(E)COS II, 3 and 8 was the epic rival of Multics. GCOS 6, however, was
heavily based on Multics, but geared for minicomputer applications.
QuoteRegarding your conjecture, I'd have to say "yes" and "no". Yes, that figures into the story, but no that only represents 1/5 of her hardship, as the majority of the OSes and programs she meets are too busy keeping themselves alive, or ignorant of all things Microsoft up until war broke, to consider punishing her for their plight. There is one emotional scene slated where she offers herself to be beaten with impunity as long as they don't touch her mother. Contrary to peacetime civility, the refugees take her up on her offer, but stop soon after realizing that thrashing a young, defenseless girl doesn't make them feel any better.
OH. SHI- ;015
QuoteThe remainder of the story's cruelty centers around three very harrowing experiences. At first when she meets Xenix-sama for the last time only to taste the last vestiges of the UNIX wars, and second where she unintentionally finds herself at the dawn of the commercial OS war in a population center trapped in the crossfire. More horrible than bodily harm to her are the things she actually sees and witnesses that would generally go unrecorded thereafter.
Xenix-sama was still under her company's graces when 2.0-chan was young, right? At any rate, I'm guessing that couldn't have ended well (Unix wars+Xenix-sama+hordes of Xenix-sama haters+2.0-chan=a very bad ending)
Oh man. Those consumer OS wars. I imagine this time couldn't have been rosy for the Mac-tans and their supporters, either (cause weren't they all but wiped out?)
QuoteAnd yet the worst part is reserved for last, after she takes her mother to the relative "safety" of an isolated wasteland (this aspect of the story would borrow heavily from "Grave of the Fireflies"). With her emotions numb, food and clean water scarce, and the non-stop preoccupation with the "baggage" she has to drag around, 2.0-chan starts exhibiting uncharacteristic cruelty and even signs of dementia, culminating ultimately to what she considers the most unforgivable act of her life.
Never seen Grave of the Fireflies, but I've heard it's a real...erm...downer.
I can't even imagine what 2.0-chan did. She seems so...sweet and benevolent. But I suppose after what she went though :..(
This goes a little beyond the usual sob story...
QuotePresumably she's in a very sorry state when Amiga-tan finds her years later, after which a fledgling Binteji Renmei (basically just Amiga-tan and ][-chan) do their best to rehabilitate her and reunite mother and daughter. With the group now 4-member strong, and the war reduced to sporadic proxy skirmishes among superpowers, the story improves from that point onward as they take in more refugees, and begin to rebuild lives and restore dignity as best they can.
So Amiga-san started the Binteji Renmei after the OS wars? I always assumed it had been around for some time...
Added after 5 hours 30 minutes: OH DEAR GOD! A NEW WIN1.0-TAN:
http://www.nijiura.com/os/src/1199977340881.jpg
Added after 55 seconds: Funny thing is she doesn't look too radically different from our homegrown 1.0-san ;)
(Edited because of a bad link, and I forgot to mention AIX)
QuoteWAHT
I did not see'd!
Fufu! Admittedly, Aurora-sama's Photobucket image is so small, I'd be surprised if you COULD have spotted CIH-tan. ^^;
So I'm posting at least the storyboard panel where she shows up. Many pointage onto you if you can correctly guess the identity of the other virus reindeer.
Oh, and Bella-sama. I'll conveniently swoon now till I think of proper worship for GECOS-sama. ^____^
*conveniently swoons*
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Eto...ano...um.
There was that chicken virus there that switched hats...and then there's the Rabbit.mimi or whatnot...and hey, what's that yellow/black tape over there, and who's it attached to!? Because if anything, that's gotta be her. I think.
And who the HELL gave a Virus-tan a LIGHTSABER!? HELP!!! *flees*
QuoteFufu! Admittedly, Aurora-sama's Photobucket image is so small, I'd be surprised if you COULD have spotted CIH-tan. ^^;
I was able to see them! ^v^
*Grins Mischievously*
Now naming them... Lemme see. ^.^
Front Row (from Right to Left):
Bliss, Acme, Spida, Cerberus, Butterfly
Back row:
W32/Mimail (aka rabbit.exe), Cascade, Abraxas, CIH
and, of course, in the sleigh is RH-tan! ^__^
I agree with Tsubashi's list except for the following:
Front row, second from the right: CIH (VonDaab's version)
Back row, furthest virus to the right (the one with the light saber): Lamer Exterminator
I would agree, Lamer Exterminator-tan makes much more sense, but seeing as I was looking for Kenji-san's CIH, the Hair color was a bit off.
I stand corrected ^.^
Woohoo!!! All of you combined got the answers correct!!!!!!!! ^v^
*tosses massively devalued "New" C-chan Points into crowd*
Yeah, in this picture, I paid homage to Aurora, Gussy, Infinity Zero AND VonDaab, so it's definitely OSC certified. ^_______^
In other news,... wait,.... wasn't I suppose to be asleep in Amiga-tan's hair? @__@
[reference to another thread]
Better catch some Zzzzs first, then I'll return to impart wisdom and sap in Bella-sama's threads. ^___^
*snore*
Those consumer OS-wars sure were terrible! I wonder what the Mac-tans had to go through during that time!
So, Apple ][-tan was the first other girl to join the Binteji Renmei? (I thought that ][-tan and Lisa-tan would have joined at the same time)
And another Windows 1.0-tan rendition? Hmm... I have mixed feelings about that one. It's drawn by Esu, my favorite artist on +Nijiura+, and is very pretty (and her outfit is the 1.0 color scheme) but I'm just so used to the other one.
Does it also seem scary that Lamer Exterminator-tan is in the group with a weapon perfect for stabbing those in front of her?
Do you all know what that means? That Lamer Exterminator is out to get you! She cannot be bargained with! She cannot be reasoned with! She does not feel pity, remorse or fear-- AAAAAAH!
*Aurora falls down face first with light saber through her chest*
QuoteDo you all know what that means? That Lamer Exterminator is out to get you! She cannot be bargained with! She cannot be reasoned with! She does not feel pity, remorse or fear-- AAAAAAH!
*cries*
Lamer Exterminator-tan is a thing of nightmares.
QuoteDo you all know what that means? That Lamer Exterminator is out to get you! She cannot be bargained with! She cannot be reasoned with! She does not feel pity, remorse or fear-- AAAAAAH!
*Aurora falls down face first with light saber through her chest*
*pulls lightsaber out of Aurora's chest* You were a FOOL to underestimate us. You should have joined the Virus side of the force. Then you would have escaped your fate.
*dark aura and red eyes on Nejin appears*
Fwahahahaha...wHAWHAHAHAGHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*maniacal laughter*
...
No!
*headbutts Nejin*
Wow, there's a lot of ground to cover here. Where to start..... hmmm.....
QuoteAs you can see, she's wearing kinda a cross between a furisode and some sort of traditional Victorian style gown, with an image of...yes, a phoenix (also that's a feather in her hair decoration). And she has a cross between an obi and a corset[/qutoe]
The cross of imagery here is masterfully implemented, and whereas the use of Japanese elements may seem out of place for superifically-Western systems, here it makes beautiful sense and really adds to her fierce, exotic beauty. I was getting worried that just about everyone in the good ol' days was looking uniformly Victorian, so this serves as acknowledgement that the world of old OSes still had substantial diversity (although nowhere near as much as today).
QuoteI tried to make her hair sort of lion-like, and I suppose it'll be a light brown color. She'll probably have yellowish colored eyes, I dunno if the glasses will work or not.
I'd have the glasses only in her present-day rendition. Just like OS/2, we want her to look as fierce and warrior-like in her prime as possible -- and more-so if a heart-wrenching lion's glare is to be achieved.
QuoteShe has a katana and is holding...one of those smaller swords (I forgot the name). Somehow I think swordfighting might make a good defense tactic for her, I dunno if she has any "magical" abilities or not. One would think...but after all, perhaps Multics-sama loosing her powers "leveled the playing field" between the two of them (as the two OSs continually were a threat to one another for years.)
I think you mean a TantÅ sword (a Wakizashi is the medium-sized sword, before a full Katana).
As far as magical ability, I'd like to take a passage from Mahou Sensei Negima and apply it here....
Whereas MULTICS-sama would have been very astute in Western-style magic (not unlike the Black/White Magic spells from the Final Fantasy series), GECOS-sama would've been schooled in Eastern magic instead. She would be skilled at Summonings (e.g., lion spirits), word art (e.g., paper that disables opponents or creates barriers), and weapon enhancement (e.g., having a blade slash send out fire or burst of air). But because this form of magic is more tactical, and lacks the area-of-effect destructiveness of MULTICS' sorcery, it was not something she could user to vanquish her enemy outright. (Although in fairness to GECOS-sama, there are specific settings where her magic would've had a decisive advantage of Western magic.)
With MULTIC-sama's power reduced, her comparative advantage is gone along with it, and thus is forced to conduct running battles against GECOS-sama until she's forced out of her last held territory.
BTW, part of UNIX-sama's emerging greatness, would've been in her combination of both schools of magic (one she learned from GECOS-sama and perfect on her own, the other she absorbed from her mother), as well as her co-emphasis on psionics and physical strength. Emphasizing an importance in researching and experimenting with all forms of power manifestations (or as we call them, "processors") is in turn what made her family powerful, adaptable and long-sought-after.
QuoteAttitude wise, I see GECOS-tan as being quite a traditionalist, with a deep loathing of Multics-sama mostly for the grandiose promises being made along with her, not to mention her emotional state in early life, and the radical ups-and-downs of her creators. I've heard Multics had countless close calls with being killed off, but GECOS didn't quite have this roller coaster ride...at least not at first.
I can't help but wonder if she reminds me a little of OS/2-sama had she (rather than 95-tan) emerged victorious. '__'
QuoteI suppose when GECOS-tan discovered the plans for Unix-sama's creation, she would have wanted to help, mostly because it promised to take everything about Multics and turn it upside down; to abandon the complexity for sheer simplicity. To GECOS-tan, Unix-sama probably would have sounded like the ultimate weapon against her enemy, and, well, I guess she turned out to be.
In addition to what I wrote above, it's that simplicity that ensured her portability (and thus her potential of becoming a great would-be student for GECOS-sama). Had she been raised under the old, stuffy, complex aristocracy, UNIX-sama would have looked down on anything that was not her learned/acquired skill.
*keeps typing*
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WOW! That's another great information site that could be right at home in the Wiki. ^___^
QuoteNow, arguably these could be daughters of Multics-sama; but I think it'd be better if these are just faithful followers of her, if only to avoid a cliched situation (IE, VMS and NT, Multics and Unix, CTSS and ITS, it has to stop somewhere!). I guess one could compare the Multics-likes to followers of a Greek hero cult (similar to ancestor worship, but with no relation).
I think that's an excellent choice, and certainly one I'd have opted for too (especially in light of the fact her old "way of life" didn't have much room for deep family ties). The Greek hero cult is an excellent example, and one replete with similar scenarios. ^___^
QuoteFirst off, Primos (aka, PR1MOS, or Multics-in-a-shoebox)-tan.
I tried to make her look a bit old-fashioned, but still modern (<oxymoron). I see her as having, yup, darker hair, and teal eyes. Leggings are a bit of an 80s-ish touch, and the armband is a reference to Primos's original name: DOS.
On the left, you see she has a marking on her back. It's a tattoo of wings (why do a lot of my characters have tattoos?). She got it as an homage to Multics-sama, I suppose after her death.
Very very pretty gal, with certifiably Multics-like facial/hair features. ^.^
Funny how I have her listed as a CIOST member at the Annex,.. certainly she looks the part, and has sufficient motive to not trust Unices.
I don't remember many of your characters having tattoos,... unless you've hidden them here and there. ^.^
QuoteI also have ideas for a VOS-tan; I suppose she's dressed somewhat fancily too, but perhaps with a police/military touch (cause VOS is used in a lot of critical applications and is fault-tolerant).
Her wiki page is equally impressive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratus_VOS
I honestly didn't know she existed, so I'm very impressed. She sounds as close to a true MULTICS successor as MULTICS herself. ^.^
I wonder if she wouldn't make an excellent Mainframe-tan too? Certainly sounds qualified. ^___^
QuoteI should also note Apollo Domain, a -tan Siya drew a concept of, is somewhat related to Multics.
WOOHOO!!!!! And the family tree starts to get more and more entangled! ^.^
QuoteAlso, AIX Unix is supposedly a lot like Multics. This is right from their site:
It's said that family traits skip a generation. ^v^'
QuoteIt should be noted G(E)COS II, 3 and 8 was the epic rival of Multics. GCOS 6, however, was heavily based on Multics, but geared for minicomputer applications.
I wonder if that should be just GECOS-sama's successor having an appreciation for MULTICS-sama, or just her living up on the "spoils of war" so to speak. -v-
QuoteXenix-sama was still under her company's graces when 2.0-chan was young, right? At any rate, I'm guessing that couldn't have ended well (Unix wars+Xenix-sama+hordes of Xenix-sama haters+2.0-chan=a very bad ending)
Correct, Xenix-sama was still around when 2.0-chan and OS/2-san were born, but she left prior to 3.0-chan's birth.
I wouldn't necessarily say that Xenix-sama succumbed to her haters per se.....
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....But her unit wasn't exactly situated behind the frontlines either, where more favorable "party members" were safely stationed.
I should probably divulge that a very young SCO-chan cameos in this part of the story too, and does offer an explanation why she grew up to be the way she is.
QuoteOh man. Those consumer OS wars. I imagine this time couldn't have been rosy for the Mac-tans and their supporters, either (cause weren't they all but wiped out?)
Correct, although the irony of the scene is that the city in question wasn't even under Mac jurisdiction, but simply suffered the unfortunate crime of being a heavy trade route (it would probably be named after a now-extinct computer retail store.
I have an idea of how UNIX civil war forces would look like, as well as the M$ ones, but the Mac faction is still a bit sketchy. Since they've always excelled at domestic control, the majority of their technology would have been geared towards that (or, in OS7 and 7.5-tan's case, towards illicit activities and intimidation, usually accompanied by tommy-guns). This, however, came at the cost of complete disregard for modernizing their actual full-blown military forces. Plus coupled with the fact that M$ used advanced tactics and equipment acquired from their IBM partnership (and purchased/stolen from more powerful factions) -- as well as a vast array of forbidden technologies that are prohibited today, at least in law only -- and the Macs were woefully unprepared to deal with this impending threat and this new and terrifying style of market warfare.
Whereas the M$ forces would've looked uniquely WWII/Korean War-era, Mac forces would've had an impressively HUGE but incredibly laughable assortment of cavalry, zepplins, WWI-era tanks and halftracks, biplanes, and huge armies of rifleman forced to don ridiculous uniforms and MARCH in unison even while being mowed down by machinegun fire. And no, they too wouldn't have realized they needed such a thing as a "gas mask".
QuoteNever seen Grave of the Fireflies, but I've heard it's a real...erm...downer.
Despite that, I recommend you watch it anyway. It's a movie worthy of eternal posterity.
QuoteI can't even imagine what 2.0-chan did. She seems so...sweet and benevolent. But I suppose after what she went though :..(
This goes a little beyond the usual sob story...
Not sure how many times I can say "I told you so". ^^;
But don't worry,... Amiga-sama's story is even worse.
QuoteSo Amiga-san started the Binteji Renmei after the OS wars? I always assumed it had been around for some time...
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Well your half-right. The Binteji Renmei as we know it was started right after the OS wars. And sorry, yes, Aurora-dono is right,... Lisa-san was already with ][-chan at the time. So yeah, that would've technically been 5 founding members.
However, Amiga-sama did try to found a similar organization during the war. A lot of her story during that era centers around trying to keep that together, and ultimately failing to do so.
As PilotOS-tan puts it so bluntly (more on her later), every single Vintage-tan is "$@#&ed up" in some way. That's considered a source of strength, but one almost every one of them would wish to do without. '___'
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I have to go now, but will be back later to give my thoughts on the new 1.0-chan. ^___^
QuoteThe cross of imagery here is masterfully implemented, and whereas the use of Japanese elements may seem out of place for superifically-Western systems, here it makes beautiful sense and really adds to her fierce, exotic beauty. I was getting worried that just about everyone in the good ol' days was looking uniformly Victorian, so this serves as acknowledgement that the world of old OSes still had substantial diversity (although nowhere near as much as today).
I even read stories about Honeywell trying to market Multics in Japan. But as far as I know, it never took off much outside of North America and Europe...
QuoteI'd have the glasses only in her present-day rendition. Just like OS/2, we want her to look as fierce and warrior-like in her prime as possible -- and more-so if a heart-wrenching lion's glare is to be achieved.
She probably won't have glasses then.
QuoteI think you mean a TantÅ sword (a Wakizashi is the medium-sized sword, before a full Katana).
As far as magical ability, I'd like to take a passage from Mahou Sensei Negima and apply it here....
Whereas MULTICS-sama would have been very astute in Western-style magic (not unlike the Black/White Magic spells from the Final Fantasy series), GECOS-sama would've been schooled in Eastern magic instead. She would be skilled at Summonings (e.g., lion spirits), word art (e.g., paper that disables opponents or creates barriers), and weapon enhancement (e.g., having a blade slash send out fire or burst of air). But because this form of magic is more tactical, and lacks the area-of-effect destructiveness of MULTICS' sorcery, it was not something she could user to vanquish her enemy outright. (Although in fairness to GECOS-sama, there are specific settings where her magic would've had a decisive advantage of Western magic.)
With MULTIC-sama's power reduced, her comparative advantage is gone along with it, and thus is forced to conduct running battles against GECOS-sama until she's forced out of her last held territory.
Never thought about that, but this would fit her quite well.
QuoteBTW, part of UNIX-sama's emerging greatness, would've been in her combination of both schools of magic (one she learned from GECOS-sama and perfect on her own, the other she absorbed from her mother), as well as her co-emphasis on psionics and physical strength. Emphasizing an importance in researching and experimenting with all forms of power manifestations (or as we call them, "processors") is in turn what made her family powerful, adaptable and long-sought-after.
Processors? ;)
But yeah, this would fit her well, too.
QuoteI can't help but wonder if she reminds me a little of OS/2-sama had she (rather than 95-tan) emerged victorious. '__'
Who? GECOS-tan?
QuoteIn addition to what I wrote above, it's that simplicity that ensured her portability (and thus her potential of becoming a great would-be student for GECOS-sama). Had she been raised under the old, stuffy, complex aristocracy, UNIX-sama would have looked down on anything that was not her learned/acquired skill.
Hmmm...so GECOS-tan was Unix-sama's teacher....
Could explain a bit of Unix-sama's short temper. I suppose she'd have been quite sequestered in her youth, and I feel GECOS-sensei would be about the last person to learn social skills from.
Somehow I think nobody really taught the young Unix-sama how to do anything not immediately related to her survival...including how to handle her temper (as I've heard early Unix had no crash handling procedures, they'd just restart the system). I think (at least as an adult) Multics-sama would have possessed the spectacular inner strength to "put on a good face" even when things weren't going so well...
Wait, what was the topic?
QuoteI don't remember many of your characters having tattoos,... unless you've hidden them here and there. ^.^
Well...Multics-sama, Primos-tan, I think I gave Tiger-tan an Apple tatto in one of my drawings...so three. But that's three more than anyone else's drawings :P
QuoteHer wiki page is equally impressive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratus_VOS
I honestly didn't know she existed, so I'm very impressed. She sounds as close to a true MULTICS successor as MULTICS herself. ^.^
I wonder if she wouldn't make an excellent Mainframe-tan too? Certainly sounds qualified. ^___^
Unfortunately, I have no ideas for VOS-tan's design : | I suppose she'd be a bit more modern than Primos-tan, but also very ornately dressed...
And I read VOS runs on a server, at least currently.
Just a little fun fact, Stratus (her company) is based in Maynard, Mass., which was also the DEC's homeland. Yet Stratus and DEC weren't really competitors. So maybe they're friendly neighbors XD
QuoteIt's said that family traits skip a generation. ^v^'
Mmmmhmmm. Tell that to Unix-sama when she find's AIX-tan's secret shrine to Multics-sama.
QuoteI wonder if that should be just GECOS-sama's successor having an appreciation for MULTICS-sama, or just her living up on the "spoils of war" so to speak. -v-
Honestly I don't think GECOS-sama and Multics-hugging minicomputer GCOS-tan would be related at all. Maybe it's all just a not-so-hilarious naming coincidence ;)
QuoteI wouldn't necessarily say that Xenix-sama succumbed to her haters per se.....
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....But her unit wasn't exactly situated behind the frontlines either, where more favorable "party members" were safely stationed.
I should probably divulge that a very young SCO-chan cameos in this part of the story too, and does offer an explanation why she grew up to be the way she is.
Hmmm...I never thought of the Unix wars as an explanation for SCO-chan's skewed-up behavior...but now it makes so much sense!
*gets on the ground and pounds fists*
Forgive me SCO-chan! I thought you were but a pompous, preening egomaniac by nature! I never thought you could be emotionally damaged!
But all this talk makes me wonder what Linux-sama was up to at this time. I suppose she was still relatively under-the-radar during the Unix wars, and afterward would have been the perfect point to approach the Unixes with the plans to set up some sort of alliance.
I actually envisioned a scenario where Minix-sensei would have talked Linux-chan (then just a teenager, and pretty much "living off the land") into having a first diplomatic meeting with the Unixes.
I think Linux-chan would have been quite doubtful and uncharacteristically cynical at first, saying if the Unixes would continue a war within their own family, she'd have no chance at gaining acceptance. But Minix-sensei, (being as wise as she is,) would point out that this is exactly the reason she should approach them. After getting a half-hearted agreement out of Linux-chan, they'd set off on an epic quest...
...But that's a whole other story... ;)
QuoteCorrect, although the irony of the scene is that the city in question wasn't even under Mac jurisdiction, but simply suffered the unfortunate crime of being a heavy trade route (it would probably be named after a now-extinct computer retail store.
...sounds like CompUSA...
QuoteI have an idea of how UNIX civil war forces would look like, as well as the M$ ones, but the Mac faction is still a bit sketchy. Since they've always excelled at domestic control, the majority of their technology would have been geared towards that (or, in OS7 and 7.5-tan's case, towards illicit activities and intimidation, usually accompanied by tommy-guns). This, however, came at the cost of complete disregard for modernizing their actual full-blown military forces. Plus coupled with the fact that M$ used advanced tactics and equipment acquired from their IBM partnership (and purchased/stolen from more powerful factions) -- as well as a vast array of forbidden technologies that are prohibited today, at least in law only -- and the Macs were woefully unprepared to deal with this impending threat and this new and terrifying style of market warfare.
I can see where the Windows' are more of the type to put their resources into military technology (in RL terms, marketing). I guess the Macs at that time were quite used to being the only real popular and user friendly group around, and were quite sure nobody would take their place : |
QuoteWhereas the M$ forces would've looked uniquely WWII/Korean War-era, Mac forces would've had an impressively HUGE but incredibly laughable assortment of cavalry, zepplins, WWI-era tanks and halftracks, biplanes, and huge armies of rifleman forced to don ridiculous uniforms and MARCH in unison even while being mowed down by machinegun fire. And no, they too wouldn't have realized they needed such a thing as a "gas mask".
Uh oh. That can't have ended well.
And I suppose all those unnamed armies would have been the different files and programs and such?
QuoteNot sure how many times I can say "I told you so". ^^;
But don't worry,... Amiga-sama's story is even worse.
No way! ;015 I always thought of Amiga-san as more of the "really smart person that nobody cared to pay attention to" type.
Though I've never really researched Amiga or Commodore history, so I'm unsure of what exactly happened.
QuoteWell your half-right. The Binteji Renmei as we know it was started right after the OS wars. And sorry, yes, Aurora-dono is right,... Lisa-san was already with ][-chan at the time. So yeah, that would've technically been 5 founding members.
However, Amiga-sama did try to found a similar organization during the war. A lot of her story during that era centers around trying to keep that together, and ultimately failing to do so.
I see...so, a lot of the first Vintage group would have been lost, becoming wanderers (or otherwise -__-)...
QuoteAs PilotOS-tan puts it so bluntly (more on her later), every single Vintage-tan is "$@#&ed up" in some way. That's considered a source of strength, but one almost every one of them would wish to do without. '___'
Hmmm...PilotOS-tan has a salty..but poignant...way with words...
*I love her already!*
But, I think it's inevitable. I don't think any field has less regard for the past than the computer industry. 90% of people will look to what's new, and fail to see any usefulness in an older product. Same goes for companies; they don't care about the consumer, they care about the money to be made : \
Okay, I'm back. ^^
Regarding Esu-san's Windows 1.0-tan, first let me post it here:
(http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/1199977340881.jpg)
If you asked me how I felt, I'd say quite simply I feel proud Esu-san drew this. For one, it puts us on the same level of people interested in documenting old OS-tans that few people are willing to acknowledge existed. Furthermore, it also proves he (she?) is still willing to draw original characters (an in fact, one of the first Leopard-tans, no?), and also that he's willing to draw with such consistency and frequency period. If I'm not mistaken, Esu is responsible for all those nice wallpapers we like, of which two of ours are based on. ^___^
The only thing that worries me is that the few comments received at ++ are geared more towards wondering if there was even a Windows 1.0, and thus heightens the possibility that she'll drop to the level of simple one-shot at least as far as their image board is concerned.
Not here, though, cause we remain steadfast collectors and admirers of our ++ bretheren. ^^
Now as I recall, a sarcastically-laden question posited nearly a year ago asked whether we'd immediately drop support for any of our homebrewed OS-tans when a Japanese version (read "official") is created. In this particular instance it's a moot point, given she's technically the
second Japanese Windows 1.0-tan design, after this one....
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/1156081551990.jpg
And our homebrewed version is a 50% take on this variant (with the remainder fileld by Aurora's appropriate color detail). ^^
But assuming this were not the case, what then would be my course of action?
Nothing.
Why?
Because:
A) The question presupposes that we and our work are inherently inferior, and that's simply not the case -- at least not since we decided to take matters into our own hands and start producing things ourselves. I believe we've done very well over the year, and owe at least a little respect to our own creations. The thing that always pissed me off the most about the March incident wasn't what the other side said, but rather that so many of the then prominent members
HERE were willing to trash-talk our site, as if all the hard work we put into it wasn't worth the webspace its hosted on.
B) Even among Japanese artists, design conflicts exist, and alternative designs created by one artist may not be taken up by a later one. This is not so much the case here since the original 1.0-chan's silhoutte leaves a lot to interpretation (and thus the possibility exists Esu-san already knew about it, or even some other ones we haven't encountered yet), but is MOST DEFINITELY the case with Vistans. ^______^
So if we sacrificed our homebrew for Variant A, then Variant B, C, D, and E came along, and all had little action beyond one-shot scenarios,... then what's the point of dropping our homebrew if there's already a medley of design variants?
C) We should be proud not only to host a lot of the artwork that would otherwise get lost in the imageboard shuffle, but also to offer a medium by which people can make public their OS-tan ideas, especially original ones. And if design conflicts exist, more often than not we try our best to take the best of borth worlds and combine into one excellent design. All the Japanese artists I've come into contact with have been very welcoming and respectful thus far, and have enjoyed my takes on CE-chan, Viru-tan, BeOS-tan, 95 OSR 2.5-sama, etc., despite that I naturally embellish a little on the originals.
D) And speaking of combining designs, Esu-san's design is (as Bella-san) very compatible to our homebrew. Her short, outcropped hair is similar to ours, and even though it's not lime green, the picture itself looks as though it was meant to be an old photograph (so those kind of colors would appear duller and tanned). Besides, maybe her hair could use a small tone-down,... definitely would help enhance her 'age".
And as for her Japanese dress, that's even less of a concern. I already have ideas for 1980's wear for Xenix-sama, the DOS-tans, the young OS/2-tan, and even 2.0-chan/3:00-chan:
(http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/1183929316773.jpg)
But I had, until now, absolutely no idea how 1.0-san would dress like during the M$/IBM partnership (where tatters would be absolutely forbidden, even on a prototype OS like her). This not only fits the bill, it's also (very conveniently) orange and yellow. ^__^[/list]
So yes, this is a great development, as we've lost nothing, but rather gained an awful lot. What else will we do besides doing what we do best?
That is taking the best of all worlds, and use it to give something back to all those artists who've sacrificed time and energy entertaining us for free. ^____^
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Okay, last stretch....
Added after 1 hours 27 minutes: QuoteProcessors?
But yeah, this would fit her well, too.
Sorry, I actually meant "Architectures". But yeah, you know what I mean no? ^^'
QuoteWho? GECOS-tan?
Yep,......... just a little. ^^;
QuoteHmmm...so GECOS-tan was Unix-sama's teacher....
Could explain a bit of Unix-sama's short temper. I suppose she'd have been quite sequestered in her youth, and I feel GECOS-sensei would be about the last person to learn social skills from.
Somehow I think nobody really taught the young Unix-sama how to do anything not immediately related to her survival...including how to handle her temper (as I've heard early Unix had no crash handling procedures, they'd just restart the system). I think (at least as an adult) Multics-sama would have possessed the spectacular inner strength to "put on a good face" even when things weren't going so well...
Wait, what was the topic?
Actually,... I had thought you wanted UNIX-sama to be GECOS-sama's apprentice, not student (that's why I used "would-be"). An apprenticeship is more a union of interest rather than obligation, thus allowing a lot of wiggle room for abuse and resentment that would ultimately backfire badly on GECOS-sama. As you say, UNIX-sama had to learn 80% of her skills on her own, since she could only count on humiliating defeats from MULTICS-sama, verbal abuse from GECOS-sama, a company that was lucky enough to toss her a bone from time to time, and a society that hated her, shunned her, and price-gouged her whenever possible, What little of her secrets GECOS-sama taught her helped her keep up the fight, but they were not decisive at all in her final victory.
I imagine that UNIX-sama's ascendancy -- and her quick transformation from rash, insecure youth to short-tempered equal to GECOS-sama -- would be a sweet-as-in-revenge story to tell. `v'
QuoteJust a little fun fact, Stratus (her company) is based in Maynard, Mass., which was also the DEC's homeland. Yet Stratus and DEC weren't really competitors. So maybe they're friendly neighbors XD
DEC-tan's = VMS and Co.
DEC + Stratus VOS + other assorted fringe OSes = CIOST
Make sense to me! ^.^
QuoteHonestly I don't think GECOS-sama and Multics-hugging minicomputer GCOS-tan would be related at all. Maybe it's all just a not-so-hilarious naming coincidence
I'll buy that for a dollar! ^v^
(= "I agree laughheartedly")
QuoteHmmm...I never thought of the Unix wars as an explanation for SCO-chan's skewed-up behavior...but now it makes so much sense!
*gets on the ground and pounds fists*
Forgive me SCO-chan! I thought you were but a pompous, preening egomaniac by nature! I never thought you could be emotionally damaged!
Now now,... there are still TONS of other OS-tans who did awful things during the old 90's wars, and still came out as fairly decent people (look at 2.0-chan ^^; ).
In her case, it was a combination of that PLUS her mother's legacy she inherited, PLUS her company spoiling her and simultaneously feeding her brain full of the crappiest crap that could be shoveled from a corporate setting.
She may not be entirely at fault for being a pompous, preening egomaniac,... but she deserves to be credited for a little of the blame, if only because she did nothing to pull herself out of that muck.
QuoteBut all this talk makes me wonder what Linux-sama was up to at this time. I suppose she was still relatively under-the-radar during the Unix wars, and afterward would have been the perfect point to approach the Unixes with the plans to set up some sort of alliance.
I actually envisioned a scenario where Minix-sensei would have talked Linux-chan (then just a teenager, and pretty much "living off the land") into having a first diplomatic meeting with the Unixes.
I think Linux-chan would have been quite doubtful and uncharacteristically cynical at first, saying if the Unixes would continue a war within their own family, she'd have no chance at gaining acceptance. But Minix-sensei, (being as wise as she is,) would point out that this is exactly the reason she should approach them. After getting a half-hearted agreement out of Linux-chan, they'd set off on an epic quest...
...But that's a whole other story...
I've envisioned something similar, although nowhere near as quickly as you're proposing. Bear in mind that early on in Linux-sama's life, UNIX-sama was still her old self and probably wanted this borderline "copycat" of her eliminated. Thus Minix-sensei sent Linux-sama off on her journey for three reasons:
1) To save Linux-sama from her own crazy family.
2) To keep her far away from the entangled mess of the Old School Unix Civil War, that was already about to get uglier from that point on.
3) To have her continue her training FAR from any vestiges of war.
It was important, she believed, for Linux-sama to grow physically, emotionally and spiritually without the taint of war, so that when the day came that she would encounter it, she would be devoid of the helplessness that would affects so many of its victims. And indeed, modern-day Linux and her followers not only stand their ground bravely to seemingly insurmountable odds, but devote much of their time to training the disenfranchised to help themselves, as well as hunting down the very root causes of war.
For Linux-sama to approach the fractured UNIX family immediately after the war would not have been possible, since the UNIX-tans could barely trust eachother at that point, let alone a dinky little clone with no power compared to their own. Plus the post UNIX War era was still filled with some violence, given that a lot of their war-torn and effectively abandoned former territories were being usurped by NT-san's forces. And much to their chagrin, a lot of these territories did not put uprise against the invaders, but rather welcomed their new Windows masters.
I believe the Linux-Unix Consortium emerged only in recent years, once the Linux-tans (or the "Linux Union") have grown in strength and power, and rival the tattered, stagnant remains of the old UNIX family. By then, UNIX-sama and Linux-sama are good friends, and Minix-sensei an excellent mediator -- but even then, as you know, the alliance is shaky at best due to the severe conflict in ideology.
QuoteI can see where the Windows' are more of the type to put their resources into military technology (in RL terms, marketing). I guess the Macs at that time were quite used to being the only real popular and user friendly group around, and were quite sure nobody would take their place : |
*smokes pipe*
Yeah, in the olden days, conflicts were fought with jousting, tournaments, civilized gunfights with well-groomed armies, and climactic ship-to-ship exchanges. The Mac-tans GLORIOUS army was a sight in its days (and great for parades), but was mostly a show of strength since they never effectively put it to much use. Even skirmishes with the Commodore-tans were a lot more civil, with battles taking place at much smaller scales, opposing generals getting together to chat of jolly ol' times and complimenting one another's tactics, armies taking a break at Christmas to celebrate with one another, and even ransoms.... RANSOMS!!! ...for huge swaths of captured soldiers and generals who regardless are given decent treatment.
It was a very different, crazy, kooky, but ultimately quite trusting world that probably will never return.
In any event, yes its also true that the Macs, led at the time by some very shortsighted people, became not only too overconfident, but also shortsighted themselves.
QuoteUh oh. That can't have ended well.
And I suppose all those unnamed armies would have been the different files and programs and such?
Correct. Certainly gives the term "file conversion" and "deleting" files a whole new meaning, no?
I don't want to say it's entirely the fault of their hardware, since good tacticians could make wonders happen even with biplanes and rifles. Heck, the present-day Linux-tans can vanquish an entire modern army armed with spears and shields!! (but yes, with the help of Open Sourcery of course).
But I definitely want to emphasize that it was poor tactics that lost the day over machinery -- heck, I'm sure even something as distasteful as digging trenches would have been forbidden in the early stages of the OS War. The Macs were slow to change, and only barely started putting on their batteries when they lost their capital (I imagine "Desktopia") and their greatest champions (including System 7-tan) got vanquished. With 95% of their forces lost, they consolidated everything they had to defending their old art district, which had terrain in their favor, a very hardy and proud populace, and enough resources to sustain their rather-late modernization drive.
(and coincidentally, its in the same district where ][-chan's farm and current site of the Binteji Renmei is, thus also ensuring their survival]
Here their standoff worked, and they were able to stall for time until their old leader made His return, instituting sweeping changes that would propel the Mac-tans and their forces into the 21st century (and yes, this included getting some backchannel support from the UNIX-tans, as well as from other new allies).
Quote
No way! I always thought of Amiga-san as more of the "really smart person that nobody cared to pay attention to" type.
Though I've never really researched Amiga or Commodore history, so I'm unsure of what exactly happened.
Well sadly, in those kinds of instances there's no such thing as a "smart person" or "someone nobody cares to pay attention to". If anything, RL history shows they're usually primary targets precisely for those reasons.
Since a lot of Amiga's history in this period involves her bouncing around from company to company, skirting oblivion,... I take a lot of artistic license having her actively help disenfranchised program-tans (mostly war orphans, so to speak). It's certainly in her character to do so, but likely reflects little history-wise.
QuoteI see...so, a lot of the first Vintage group would have been lost, becoming wanderers (or otherwise -__-)...
Let's just say you develop a genuine admiration for Amiga-san's strength of will, and also an understanding why she's presently obsessed with being useful.
But its with cases like these that I often wonder whether I should even bother to at least write these stories (let alone develop mangas for them, which to be honest is physically impossible for me alone). I develop these as such because I don't want to glorify the aspect of war -- but I also don't want to sound like a sick bastard either.
I often think that, if I can devote time to writing these, I'd much rather devote it to writing more uplifting stories that still carry with them political messages.
For example, my proposed love story between Amiga-san and ReactionGUY-kun that has a very epic ending.
Or that Miyazaki-style story of DSL-kun in 95-tan (yes, I said "in"), which would be rather epic as well.
QuoteBut, I think it's inevitable. I don't think any field has less regard for the past than the computer industry. 90% of people will look to what's new, and fail to see any usefulness in an older product. Same goes for companies; they don't care about the consumer, they care about the money to be made : \
Sadly correct.
I think that paradign shifts tremendously with open source,... and as you can see yourself, you start to acquire a new found appreciation for things you might have unintentionally glossed over.
Precisely because open source is supported by a non-corporate community, and because its rooted in appreciation for older hardware, it has the most potential for stopping the indiscriminate destruction of older systems that are still good enough to be used by other people around the world.
That holds true story-wise, but sadly this is 20 years too late for a lot of vintage-tans. While the Linuces actively help them, there's no shortage of remorse, especially on behalf of Linux-sama, that she was not able to protect them when the worst of it was occuring.
QuoteHmmm...PilotOS-tan has a salty..but poignant...way with words...
*I love her already!*
I actually have PilotOS-tan sketched, but not vectorized. Can't wait to, though, since she's perhaps the only foul-mouthed character among the Binteji Renmei (despite that, like most other Vintage-tans, looks like a youngish girl). Personality-wise, she's a blend of MOMO from Xenosaga, Cid from Final Fantaxy VII, and Marco from Porco Rosso -- or in other words, a mess.
She used to have a flotilla of planes, but can now barely maintain one what with only a pitiful shadow of her former salary. She has a short-fuse for a temper, always packs a pistol, has little good to say about anything modern, and generally keeps to herself. She flies errands for the Vintage-tans and well often give advice to her younger peers, but neither of which is devoid of colorful language or poignant guilt-tripping.
She does mellow out with fine music, but her definition of fine music is stuff like "Fantastic Plastic Machine" -- which has been known to cause nausea for C64-tan (hence why she always pumps up the volume with her around).
She doesn't mind putting herself in harm's danger to help others, but generally-speaking her only close friend is PCDOS-tan (and yes, trading insults during a flight is their favorite pastime).
QuoteLet's just say you develop a genuine admiration for Amiga-san's strength of will, and also an understanding why she's presently obsessed with being useful.
But its with cases like these that I often wonder whether I should even bother to at least write these stories (let alone develop mangas for them, which to be honest is physically impossible for me alone). I develop these as such because I don't want to glorify the aspect of war -- but I also don't want to sound like a sick bastard either.
I often think that, if I can devote time to writing these, I'd much rather devote it to writing more uplifting stories that still carry with them political messages.
I do agree, if I ever did a manga, or even a fanfic or story about, say, the vintage-tans (don't hold your breath), I'd probably not get into their past much, if at all; only that something bad did happen and that they're trying to leave that in the past and look to the future.
Maybe that's why I like the older era of OS-tans more. It seems things were a lot more even keeled...sure, there was sporadic violence, but for the most part I don't think there were any really big incidents (aka, monopolies). I think things would have been a lot more about fairness and some diplomacy. But I could be wrong; it just seems a lot of OSs had a longer shelf life and were designed and marketed accordingly.
That said, I also agree that sap has reached critical mass here...we don't want another incident like the great maple syrup explosion of Boston (yes, it happened. I kid you not) :P
I'll reply to the rest tomorrow, cause right about now I'm bushed...
I'm Back! I'm starting to be a bit of a lurker >.< BAD TECHNO BAD!
*Hits himself*
I promise to post more in the very near future.
Now, onto the commenting.
GCOS-Tan. Pretty ^_^
Another girl with a sword who I'm not going to turn my back on.
HYUUUUUH?!? I thoght I saw a Plan-9 Tan somewhere a little while back.
*Goes back about three pages*
Aha! I did! *drools*
NYA! ;010
Inferno-Chan looks adorable too. But I'm going to keep my distance from her for reasons of my health.
Doctor: You got third degree burns
Where?(I appologise for that..I just couldn't resist myself..)
Prismos-Tan OOOOH *.* (Is that copyrited?)
Beautiful, I love the dress.
While we're on the topic of Windows 1.0-Tan. The thought came up..Whatever happened to her? (our green haired version)
Did she leave, get kicked out, fall in a hole somewhere, Is she even still alive? Or is she a member of that Vintage-Tan group who I'm not going to try to pronounce..
Windows 2.0-Tan's story sounds like a real tear-jerker. But someone said Amiga? Now I'm interested..
I'll admit, I've been bitten by the creativity bug, and now I want to make an actual OS tan. But are there any OSes that haven't gotten a -tan yet?
(don't get me wrong, I'm proud to have Effie, (The nickname I've given Fchan-tan) VBoy-Kun, Sasser.exe-tan, and RCA Pearl-tan)
Yes they're still comming.
Though if we're talking drama, poor Effie got blindsided by her Half sister 4chan-tan and her Mini Mafia who attacked for seemingly no reason. The two of them have been fighting for supremecy ever since.
Though I get the feeling that there are some Os-tans here that have had experiences that would make the Furry V Anonymous wars look like nothing.
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Do you all know what that means? That Lamer Exterminator is out to get you! She cannot be bargained with! She cannot be reasoned with! She does not feel pity, remorse or fear-- AAAAAAH!
*Aurora falls down face first with light saber through her chest*
*pulls lightsaber out of Aurora's chest* You were a FOOL to underestimate us. You should have joined the Virus side of the force. Then you would have escaped your fate.
*dark aura and red eyes on Nejin appears*
Fwahahahaha...wHAWHAHAHAGHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*maniacal laughter*
Sasser-tan: Heheheh ....Perfect.... *evil smile*
I know what all of you are thinking..And the answer is no.
I'm not a furry, I do support them in online arguements and enjoy some of their art though.
I'm just your average, kind, computer genious.
Quote from: "C-Chan"As far as magical ability, I'd like to take a passage from Mahou Sensei Negima and apply it here....
Whereas MULTICS-sama would have been very astute in Western-style magic (not unlike the Black/White Magic spells from the Final Fantasy series), GECOS-sama would've been schooled in Eastern magic instead. She would be skilled at Summonings (e.g., lion spirits), word art (e.g., paper that disables opponents or creates barriers), and weapon enhancement (e.g., having a blade slash send out fire or burst of air). But because this form of magic is more tactical, and lacks the area-of-effect destructiveness of MULTICS' sorcery, it was not something she could user to vanquish her enemy outright. (Although in fairness to GECOS-sama, there are specific settings where her magic would've had a decisive advantage of Western magic.)
Wait.. Word Art?
Could this be related to the "Paper Magic" from Read Or Die?
Secret fact: Effie can summon a tentacle monster. Heh.
She can also create portals to different places. She can willfully control this. She can make them go pretty far too. Or use them to go a short distance (Ie: to get on the other side of a locked door).
She like to play pranks on people using this as well, You should always be careful if she asks you to go through a suspicious portal.
If I recall correctly she once tricked a guy into going through a portal that lead straight to /Ah/.
And did I hear someone say something about SAM Linux-tan and AtariDOS-tan?
QuoteBut are there any OSes that haven't gotten a -tan yet?
Has there been an Oberon-tan, yet? I've been intending to do one, ever since Bluebottle-tan, but I just haven't nailed a design I like for her, yet. You should give it a whirl! ^__^
No, there isn't an Oberon-tan yet but I also have been wanting to make one. I'm drawing a blank as to what her design would be but I have an idea for what her personality and such would be:
Since Oberon is neither a GUI or a command line interface and that is a very radical (and not very influential) approach, I see Oberon-tan as a radical politician who doesn't fit in with the rest of society so she joined the CIOST. She also has remarkable error-detecting abilities and is a perfectionist (the Oberon programming language which was used to make the Oberon OS is good at detecting errors early). Her outfit would most likely have a black + white color scheme (well... based on the screenshot I saw)
Oooh! I was going in a completely different direction, and making her like a humanoid alien (think of the clothing designs of The Jetsons or the metallic, futuristic designs from the sixties and seventies). I was also drawing from Uranus's Moon, Oberon, which the creators of the OS had pictured on some of their literature and the Shakespearian character the moon was named after (King of the Fairies/King of Shadows). I was going for primarily black and white with blue accents...mostly because it matched with a costume project I had to do for the Shakespearian Oberon.
QuoteRegarding Esu-san's Windows 1.0-tan, first let me post it here:
*long explaination of ++ designs and OSC designs*
I totally agree. As you also know, I've always been one for using different designs as different pictured ages, so, as you noted, Esu-san's could be simply 1.0-tan at a younger age. Who knows, maybe her hair lightened a bit with age, and she started dressing down somewhat...
QuoteSorry, I actually meant "Architectures". But yeah, you know what I mean no? ^^'
Yep.
QuoteActually,... I had thought you wanted UNIX-sama to be GECOS-sama's apprentice, not student (that's why I used "would-be"). An apprenticeship is more a union of interest rather than obligation, thus allowing a lot of wiggle room for abuse and resentment that would ultimately backfire badly on GECOS-sama. As you say, UNIX-sama had to learn 80% of her skills on her own, since she could only count on humiliating defeats from MULTICS-sama, verbal abuse from GECOS-sama, a company that was lucky enough to toss her a bone from time to time, and a society that hated her, shunned her, and price-gouged her whenever possible, What little of her secrets GECOS-sama taught her helped her keep up the fight, but they were not decisive at all in her final victory.
I imagine that UNIX-sama's ascendancy -- and her quick transformation from rash, insecure youth to short-tempered equal to GECOS-sama -- would be a sweet-as-in-revenge story to tell. `v'
Okay then, apprentice.
But I guess one thing Unix-sama had going for her was the complete confidence of her creators. Compared to the Multics developers, whom, between like 1964 and 68 were quite doubtful that their project would ever get off the ground half the time...
QuoteNow now,... there are still TONS of other OS-tans who did awful things during the old 90's wars, and still came out as fairly decent people (look at 2.0-chan ^^; ).
In her case, it was a combination of that PLUS her mother's legacy she inherited, PLUS her company spoiling her and simultaneously feeding her brain full of the crappiest crap that could be shoveled from a corporate setting.
She may not be entirely at fault for being a pompous, preening egomaniac,... but she deserves to be credited for a little of the blame, if only because she did nothing to pull herself out of that muck.
*insightful look*
Touche...
QuoteI've envisioned something similar, although nowhere near as quickly as you're proposing. Bear in mind that early on in Linux-sama's life, UNIX-sama was still her old self and probably wanted this borderline "copycat" of her eliminated. Thus Minix-sensei sent Linux-sama off on her journey for three reasons:
I didn't really have much of a timeline in mind.
Quote1) To save Linux-sama from her own crazy family.
2) To keep her far away from the entangled mess of the Old School Unix Civil War, that was already about to get uglier from that point on.
3) To have her continue her training FAR from any vestiges of war.
It was important, she believed, for Linux-sama to grow physically, emotionally and spiritually without the taint of war, so that when the day came that she would encounter it, she would be devoid of the helplessness that would affects so many of its victims. And indeed, modern-day Linux and her followers not only stand their ground bravely to seemingly insurmountable odds, but devote much of their time to training the disenfranchised to help themselves, as well as hunting down the very root causes of war.
For Linux-sama to approach the fractured UNIX family immediately after the war would not have been possible, since the UNIX-tans could barely trust eachother at that point, let alone a dinky little clone with no power compared to their own. Plus the post UNIX War era was still filled with some violence, given that a lot of their war-torn and effectively abandoned former territories were being usurped by NT-san's forces. And much to their chagrin, a lot of these territories did not put uprise against the invaders, but rather welcomed their new Windows masters.
That sounds about right....
QuoteYeah, in the olden days, conflicts were fought with jousting, tournaments, civilized gunfights with well-groomed armies, and climactic ship-to-ship exchanges. The Mac-tans GLORIOUS army was a sight in its days (and great for parades), but was mostly a show of strength since they never effectively put it to much use. Even skirmishes with the Commodore-tans were a lot more civil, with battles taking place at much smaller scales, opposing generals getting together to chat of jolly ol' times and complimenting one another's tactics, armies taking a break at Christmas to celebrate with one another, and even ransoms.... RANSOMS!!! ...for huge swaths of captured soldiers and generals who regardless are given decent treatment.
It was a very different, crazy, kooky, but ultimately quite trusting world that probably will never return.
In any event, yes its also true that the Macs, led at the time by some very shortsighted people, became not only too overconfident, but also shortsighted themselves.
Ah, the golden days.
*sighs*
QuoteCorrect. Certainly gives the term "file conversion" and "deleting" files a whole new meaning, no?
O_________O
XD
Quote(and coincidentally, its in the same district where ][-chan's farm and current site of the Binteji Renmei is, thus also ensuring their survival]
...Why'd I think they lived in a walled city along with their meager group of supporters, cutoff from the outside world...? :P
(20 points to whomever gets the reference ;) )
QuoteHere their standoff worked, and they were able to stall for time until their old leader made His return, instituting sweeping changes that would propel the Mac-tans and their forces into the 21st century (and yes, this included getting some backchannel support from the UNIX-tans, as well as from other new allies).
And now they're getting their crazed revenge! Bwahahaha!
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs11/300W/i/2006/259/1/2/Ahem__by_Hftysmrf.jpg
QuoteWell sadly, in those kinds of instances there's no such thing as a "smart person" or "someone nobody cares to pay attention to". If anything, RL history shows they're usually primary targets precisely for those reasons.
Exactly what I meant.
QuoteI often think that, if I can devote time to writing these, I'd much rather devote it to writing more uplifting stories that still carry with them political messages.
For example, my proposed love story between Amiga-san and ReactionGUY-kun that has a very epic ending.
Yeah, I concur.
QuoteOr that Miyazaki-style story of DSL-kun in 95-tan (yes, I said "in"), which would be rather epic as well.
Ummm...okay...?
QuoteSadly correct.
I think that paradign shifts tremendously with open source,... and as you can see yourself, you start to acquire a new found appreciation for things you might have unintentionally glossed over.
Precisely because open source is supported by a non-corporate community, and because its rooted in appreciation for older hardware, it has the most potential for stopping the indiscriminate destruction of older systems that are still good enough to be used by other people around the world.
To me, that's probably the biggest draw of open source software.
QuoteThat holds true story-wise, but sadly this is 20 years too late for a lot of vintage-tans. While the Linuces actively help them, there's no shortage of remorse, especially on behalf of Linux-sama, that she was not able to protect them when the worst of it was occuring.
Aw, but she was still so...powerless...at the time. I assume.
QuoteI actually have PilotOS-tan sketched, but not vectorized. Can't wait to, though, since she's perhaps the only foul-mouthed character among the Binteji Renmei (despite that, like most other Vintage-tans, looks like a youngish girl). Personality-wise, she's a blend of MOMO from Xenosaga, Cid from Final Fantaxy VII, and Marco from Porco Rosso -- or in other words, a mess.
She used to have a flotilla of planes, but can now barely maintain one what with only a pitiful shadow of her former salary. She has a short-fuse for a temper, always packs a pistol, has little good to say about anything modern, and generally keeps to herself. She flies errands for the Vintage-tans and well often give advice to her younger peers, but neither of which is devoid of colorful language or poignant guilt-tripping.
She does mellow out with fine music, but her definition of fine music is stuff like "Fantastic Plastic Machine" -- which has been known to cause nausea for C64-tan (hence why she always pumps up the volume with her around).
She doesn't mind putting herself in harm's danger to help others, but generally-speaking her only close friend is PCDOS-tan (and yes, trading insults during a flight is their favorite pastime).
Did I say I love her? Oh...I did. Now I really love her!
QuoteGCOS-Tan. Pretty
Another girl with a sword who I'm not going to turn my back on.
HYUUUUUH?!? I thoght I saw a Plan-9 Tan somewhere a little while back.
*Goes back about three pages*
Aha! I did! *drools*
NYA!
Inferno-Chan looks adorable too. But I'm going to keep my distance from her for reasons of my health.
Doctor: You got third degree burns Where?
(I appologise for that..I just couldn't resist myself..)
Prismos-Tan OOOOH *.* (Is that copyrited?)
Beautiful, I love the dress.
Thanks!
So you like Inferno-chan...cool, I may be doing a drawing with her...(more on this later)
QuoteWhile we're on the topic of Windows 1.0-Tan. The thought came up..Whatever happened to her? (our green haired version)
Did she leave, get kicked out, fall in a hole somewhere, Is she even still alive? Or is she a member of that Vintage-Tan group who I'm not going to try to pronounce..
Yes, she's with the The Binteji Renmei (that's the Vintage Federation, and I'm pretty sure it's pronounced
"Bin-ti-ji ren-mey" or something like that).
QuoteWindows 2.0-Tan's story sounds like a real tear-jerker. But someone said Amiga? Now I'm interested..
See what you've started C-Chan!? :P
QuoteI'll admit, I've been bitten by the creativity bug, and now I want to make an actual OS tan. But are there any OSes that haven't gotten a -tan yet?
Are there any OSs that don't have a -tan!?!?
*sits Techno down*
I tell you what you should do. Go to Distrowatch and let your imagination soar, or look up OSs on Wikipedia. :D
QuoteThough if we're talking drama, poor Effie got blindsided by her Half sister 4chan-tan and her Mini Mafia who attacked for seemingly no reason. The two of them have been fighting for supremecy ever since.
Though I get the feeling that there are some Os-tans here that have had experiences that would make the Furry V Anonymous wars look like nothing.
Yeah O__O
Yes, twas I time when I thought VMS-sama having her DNA stolen was a bad experience...but on the OS-tan historic scale, that's like...a minor peeve.
QuoteSecret fact: Effie can summon a tentacle monster. Heh.
She can also create portals to different places. She can willfully control this. She can make them go pretty far too. Or use them to go a short distance (Ie: to get on the other side of a locked door).
She like to play pranks on people using this as well, You should always be careful if she asks you to go through a suspicious portal.
If I recall correctly she once tricked a guy into going through a portal that lead straight to /Ah/.
A tentacle monster?
O_____o
And portals? You mean, she could be behind me right now?
*runs out of thread screaming*
QuoteAnd did I hear someone say something about SAM Linux-tan and AtariDOS-tan?
Yes, there are concepts for both...
QuoteSince Oberon is neither a GUI or a command line interface and that is a very radical (and not very influential) approach, I see Oberon-tan as a radical politician who doesn't fit in with the rest of society so she joined the CIOST. She also has remarkable error-detecting abilities and is a perfectionist (the Oberon programming language which was used to make the Oberon OS is good at detecting errors early). Her outfit would most likely have a black + white color scheme (well... based on the screenshot I saw)
Wow...I wikied it. Sounds like a unique...but kinda...lame...OS...heehee.
QuoteOooh! I was going in a completely different direction, and making her like a humanoid alien (think of the clothing designs of The Jetsons or the metallic, futuristic designs from the sixties and seventies). I was also drawing from Uranus's Moon, Oberon, which the creators of the OS had pictured on some of their literature and the Shakespearian character the moon was named after (King of the Fairies/King of Shadows). I was going for primarily black and white with blue accents...mostly because it matched with a costume project I had to do for the Shakespearian Oberon.
Sounds neat! I think that'd fit quite well!
Anyhoo, I've been wanting to do a comic. I kinda had a six-panel one featuring Inferno-chan and FreeBSD-chan in mind, it's a strong concept and I dunno if I can finish it.
As practice, I may do a four panel comic with VMS and Ultrix-tan, set back in the mid 80s or some time around then. It'll also feature a daemon-tan.
Alright! FINALLY! Talk of an Oberon-tan. ^__^
Can't say I've devoted more than an Annex-entries thought to her, so definitely decide amongst thyselves what she'd look like. ^^
(On the other hand, if you want my opinion about eCOS-tan and VXworks-tan, let me know. ^.^)
Oh, and Bella-sama [unsurprisingly] has a full grasp of what I'm talking about, so no need to write anymore on the matter (and good, cause I wrote a helluva lot...^^;).
Quote...Why'd I think they lived in a walled city along with their meager group of supporters, cutoff from the outside world...? :P
(20 points to whomever gets the reference )
I'd suggest Haibane Renmei, but probably wrong (and besides, I didn't call the OTHER group Binteji Renmei for no good reason.... ^.^; ).
QuoteAnd now they're getting their crazed revenge! Bwahahaha!
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs11/300W/i/2006/259/1/2/Ahem__by_Hftysmrf.jpg
Cooooooooorrect....
Whereas before they were a laughing stock militarily, now they have very advanced equipment, some even more advanced than M$ hardware. Numbers are still a problem, but their iPod Corp is working on turning the tide. ^___^;
QuoteUmmm...okay...?
Trust me, it'll be cute and epic. Very weird and surreal, but after reading that story you'll never look at viruses and DSL the same way again. ^>^
(Course, that assumes I'll write/draw it someday.)
QuoteAw, but she was still so...powerless...at the time. I assume.
Well of course,... but... as you say, the sap meter is running at critical levels. ^.^
QuoteDid I say I love her? Oh...I did. Now I really love her!
Very well. After I finish with Page 10 of the Xmas comic, I'll take a break and work on vectorizing my Pilot-chan sketch. Hopefully you'll like her in the flesh too. ^___^
QuoteYes, she's with the The Binteji Renmei (that's the Vintage Federation, and I'm pretty sure it's pronounced "Bin-ti-ji ren-mey" or something like that).
*gives Bella A++++++++ grade*
QuoteSee what you've started C-Chan!? :P
*flops over*
I know.............. -_______________________-
But yeah no, I've already supplied enough sap to start a new maple syrup manufacturing plant. ^.^;
QuoteAre there any OSs that don't have a -tan!?!?
*sits Techno down*
I tell you what you should do. Go to Distrowatch and let your imagination soar, or look up OSs on Wikipedia.
Ditto. ^^
QuoteSounds neat! I think that'd fit quite well!
Anyhoo, I've been wanting to do a comic. I kinda had a six-panel one featuring Inferno-chan and FreeBSD-chan in mind, it's a strong concept and I dunno if I can finish it.
As practice, I may do a four panel comic with VMS and Ultrix-tan, set back in the mid 80s or some time around then. It'll also feature a daemon-tan.
Don't forget you did a good job with the PCDOS-tan comic and the NT-tan diplomatic meeting and the Xmas special, etc etc etc.....
So yeah, absolutely confident here that you'll do fine with your comic. ^____^
....
Just as long as you finish the NT/3.1-sama one.... `v'
QuoteWait.. Word Art?
Could this be related to the "Paper Magic" from Read Or Die?
Not.......... eeeeeeeeentirely...........
I forgot what it's call, but it's more like those paper strips with kanji that priests write on to ward evil spirits. And in some Anime (especially in Tsukuyomi Moon Phase), they're used offensively against ghosts and demons, usually by being tossed at them or used to trap them in some barrier.
QuoteAnd did I hear someone say something about SAM Linux-tan and AtariDOS-tan?
@SAM:
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M SO SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!! ;^0^;
*prostrates before Bella, begging for forgiveness*
@AtariDOS:
Yep, she'll appear in Page 11 of the Zerosanity Xmas special, along with her friends PETchan and ][-chan. ^___^
QuoteAlright! FINALLY! Talk of an Oberon-tan. ^__^
Can't say I've devoted more than an Annex-entries thought to her, so definitely decide amongst thyselves what she'd look like. ^^
I'm still confused about Oberon. Command lines I get; GUIs are a harder to conceptualize, but no CLI or GUI?
Definitely an odd -tan. Somehow I see her as having a short bobbed haircut (kinda tying into the 60s-ish futurist theme, as Siya mentioned).
Quote(On the other hand, if you want my opinion about eCOS-tan and VXworks-tan, let me know. ^.^)
Oooh! I know eCOS-tan is a friend of VMS-sama, and a friend of VMS-sama I know I'll like!
But I've been trying to think of a concept for VXworks-tan! There's lots of potential, as XVworks was used in a spacecraft! Somehow I see her as kinda a futuristic space cowgirl (=wacky space traveler) type, and an excellent pilot of various spacecraft and aircraft...Physically I've got no ideas, but maybe a headset (as it's a router OS as well), and a visor just to look cool and space-y...
Oh yeah, and I read the wiki aritcle...I think my wireless router may run on VXworks! XD
*now I must draw (or help draw) a VXworks-tan...*
QuoteOh, and Bella-sama [unsurprisingly] has a full grasp of what I'm talking about, so no need to write anymore on the matter (and good, cause I wrote a helluva lot...^^.
Thank heavens ^///^ I haven't read/wrote/thought so much since my book report on
War and Peace!QuoteI'd suggest Haibane Renmei, but probably wrong (and besides, I didn't call the OTHER group Binteji Renmei for no good reason.... ^.^; ).
Nope, you got it right :P
I could ask....but...nah...
QuoteCooooooooorrect....
Whereas before they were a laughing stock militarily, now they have very advanced equipment, some even more advanced than M$ hardware. Numbers are still a problem, but their iPod Corp is working on turning the tide. ^___^;
Numbers shmumbers. They say the best revenge is living well...if that's so, I think the Macs are currently getting one hell of a revenge ;)
QuoteTrust me, it'll be cute and epic. Very weird and surreal, but after reading that story you'll never look at viruses and DSL the same way again. ^>^
(Course, that assumes I'll write/draw it someday.)
Weird and surreal...I like, I like...
Yeah, and I've never looked at viruses the same way since reading that first part of the
Unix Hater's Handbook.
*has aforementioned book thrown at head by an angry *nix-tan*
QuoteWell of course,... but... as you say, the sap meter is running at critical levels. ^.^
*thinks about poor, defenseless Linux-chan.
*tears well up*
Uh oh...
*sap reaches critical mass*
*sap explosion*
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/BostonMolassesDisaster.jpg/320px-BostonMolassesDisaster.jpg)
That's a real molasses explosion, BTW.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster
Quote*flops over*
I know.............. -_______________________-
But yeah no, I've already supplied enough sap to start a new maple syrup manufacturing plant. ^.^;
But wait, there's more!
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/untitled-17.jpg)
QuoteJust as long as you finish the NT/3.1-sama one.... `v'
I've had some say "it must take a lot of patience to finish that drawing". Thing is drawings I have no problem with. But I really am in awe of anyone who has the patience to finish a comic, much less keep a series going like Aurora ;)
Quote@SAM:
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M SO SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!! ;^0^;
*prostrates before Bella, begging for forgiveness*
@AtariDOS:
Yep, she'll appear in Page 11 of the Zerosanity Xmas special, along with her friends PETchan and ][-chan. ^___^
Like I said before, you owe me nada :P
And here's the VMS-san, Ultrix-tan and hpppd-chan (a Unix daemon) comic so far. Dunno if it makes a lot of sense...but it's a comedy XD
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/comic325.png)
QuoteOooh! I know eCOS-tan is a friend of VMS-sama, and a friend of VMS-sama I know I'll like!
You're especially gonna love her Christmas "present". `v'
*sinister chuckle*
QuoteBut I've been trying to think of a concept for VXworks-tan! There's lots of potential, as XVworks was used in a spacecraft! Somehow I see her as kinda a futuristic space cowgirl (=wacky space traveler) type, and an excellent pilot of various spacecraft and aircraft...Physically I've got no ideas, but maybe a headset (as it's a router OS as well), and a visor just to look cool and space-y...
Oh yeah, and I read the wiki aritcle...I think my wireless router may run on VXworks! XD
*now I must draw (or help draw) a VXworks-tan...*
In my preconcepts I envision her as something of a space "ranger" (not necessarily in the army sense, but in the traditional lone protector or guardian of a set location). While she does enjoy out-of-pocket explorations and will protect people in need spontaneously, she often works for hire to act as bodyguard and guide to exploration crews (for the most part). The more interesting the mission (and the greater the chance for her to acquire data, which is her passion), the less she charges. Have her escort you to Mars would likely cost you a ceremonial $1 -- ask her to do your dishes, on the other hand, could cost you up to $100. ^_______^;
[hey, time is money..... ^.^;]
Though she doesn't work for any agency and is hardly a proud CIOST member (few of them are, anyway), she does wear an extremely sharp, militaresque uniform that's especially tailored for lightness and mobility. I have an excellent example from an Intron Depot book that I'll try to post up later as an example. ^___^
But even any custom suits (such as underwater, low-G or spacesuits) she might have to wear are hardly bulky, and generally compliment rather than detract from her pleasantly athletic physique. And while the uniforms themselves are not overly futuristic, her accessories are (e.g, your headset and visor idea).
Her weapon of choice is a deceptively-simple piece of futuristic hardware: an inductive-charge railgun that she built on her own. It appears like a a cross between an elongated rifle and a hand-cannon in its normal close-quarter form, but can protract via a creative ribbed-carriage system to a maximum 3-meter length in case an ultra-long distance "sniper" shot is required. The projectiles can be any single lump of metal at her disposal [for most purposes], and as long as they're hurled at subsonic speeds can be shot in virtual silence. Not that she's ever needed to do this much, but it's nice to know she has teeth. ^^
Personality-wise, she's an odd blend of self-confidence, compassion, professionalism and eccentricity; while she may come off as courteous and well-mannered, she has difficulty understanding that not everyone shares her same passion for adventure and discovery (and vice versa when it comes to mainstream matters). In general, though, she's an admirable young woman with a pioneering, can-do spirit -- and while not 100% in agreement with the Open Sorcerer's philosophy, she certainly embodies some of their best traits.
Quote*thinks about poor, defenseless Linux-chan.
*tears well up*
Uh oh...
*sap reaches critical mass*
*sap explosion*
Well, I figure since grain silos can explode and cows can explode, then it'd be crazy not to believe you that sap could explode either. ^^;
*tosses half-empty maple syrup in trash and seals it tight*
QuoteBut wait, there's more!
YAY!!!!! BELLA-SAMA features her MSPaint drawings here at last!!! ^v^
I want to see the one with the girls carrying those buckets of sap! ^___^
QuoteLike I said before, you owe me nada :P
And here's the VMS-san, Ultrix-tan and hpppd-chan (a Unix daemon) comic so far. Dunno if it makes a lot of sense...but it's a comedy XD
*conveniently swoons*
[cause I have to leave, but will be back] ^.^;
Added after 3 hours 34 minutes: Okay, I'm back. ^^
Alright, let's get through this. -v-
PANEL 1: It's strange to see VMS-sama without any white hair,... you're right, it is the 80's. ^___^
Excellent choice on VMS-sama's dress, btw -- it's the perfect combination of simplicity, elegance and futurism that practically confirms my suspicions that you're actually a fashion designer that (fortunately for us) loves OS-tans. ^^
But judging by the color of the skirt and color relative to Ultrix-san's, I'm guessing they're wearing the same uniform (only VMS-sama has that coat over it).
Try as I might, though, I actually can't find where all the Ultrix-san info is,... all I can find in the forums now are scant references to her and this sketch:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/dec.jpg)
Still very pretty, although coy to a fault. ^.^
Still a VMS fan, though (if for no other reason than that she's taller). ^__^
I do recall she and VMS-sama were at eachothers necks (sibling-wise, anyway), but then anyone seeing the comic could see that. ^^;
Also, your httpd-tan had longer hair and cables in your sketches, no...? So that's like a younger version of her?
Except for the very short hair, she reminds me a little of Kiri Komori from Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei: ^^
(http://www.myanimelist.net/images/characters/5/4745.jpg)
PANEL 2: BWAHAHA!!!!! Honestly,...... even I would think Ultrix-san was not,.... totally up there in the head. ^^;
PANEL 3: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Is that the Unix-like equivalent to a hit below the belt? ^____^;
PANEL 4: Great comeback! ^o^b
And Ultrix-san shouldn't feel so bad,... after all, she set herself up to that one. ^_______^
I know you said "so far", so that means the comic still needs finishing touches and shading no? In panel 4 in particular, between VMS-sama's hand and Httpd-chan's arms, it does look like you had stopped there.
Overall, though, it's very nice work for such short time expenditure, and above all it's cute! ^.^
I think if you can maintain that kinda pace, it shouldn't be impossible for you to do a slightly-more-full-length manga strip. ^___^
But I'm just thinking out loud there. ^.^;
QuoteYou're especially gonna love her Christmas "present". `v'
*sinister chuckle*
I'm all ears...;)
QuoteIn my preconcepts I envision her as something of a space "ranger" (not necessarily in the army sense, but in the traditional lone protector or guardian of a set location). While she does enjoy out-of-pocket explorations and will protect people in need spontaneously, she often works for hire to act as bodyguard and guide to exploration crews (for the most part). The more interesting the mission (and the greater the chance for her to acquire data, which is her passion), the less she charges. Have her escort you to Mars would likely cost you a ceremonial $1 -- ask her to do your dishes, on the other hand, could cost you up to $100. ^_______^;
[hey, time is money..... ^.^;]
Though she doesn't work for any agency and is hardly a proud CIOST member (few of them are, anyway), she does wear an extremely sharp, militaresque uniform that's especially tailored for lightness and mobility. I have an excellent example from an Intron Depot book that I'll try to post up later as an example. ^___^
But even any custom suits (such as underwater, low-G or spacesuits) she might have to wear are hardly bulky, and generally compliment rather than detract from her pleasantly athletic physique. And while the uniforms themselves are not overly futuristic, her accessories are (e.g, your headset and visor idea).
Her weapon of choice is a deceptively-simple piece of futuristic hardware: an inductive-charge railgun that she built on her own. It appears like a a cross between an elongated rifle and a hand-cannon in its normal close-quarter form, but can protract via a creative ribbed-carriage system to a maximum 3-meter length in case an ultra-long distance "sniper" shot is required. The projectiles can be any single lump of metal at her disposal [for most purposes], and as long as they're hurled at subsonic speeds can be shot in virtual silence. Not that she's ever needed to do this much, but it's nice to know she has teeth. ^^
Personality-wise, she's an odd blend of self-confidence, compassion, professionalism and eccentricity; while she may come off as courteous and well-mannered, she has difficulty understanding that not everyone shares her same passion for adventure and discovery (and vice versa when it comes to mainstream matters). In general, though, she's an admirable young woman with a pioneering, can-do spirit -- and while not 100% in agreement with the Open Sorcerer's philosophy, she certainly embodies some of their best traits.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/326.jpg)
Oooh! She sounds like quite the character!
I did a concept drawing for VXworks-tan the day before last...before I read your ideas. But I suppose it could...kinda work...
Any ideas for a color scheme for VXworks-tan? Cause I have an idea or two (mostly based on my Linksys router...XD)
FYI, the two girls on the right are two concepts for VOS-tan. I kinda like the outfit farthest to the right...
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/327.jpg)
And a concept for AIX-tan. I still don't know that much about her, though...
QuoteYAY!!!!! BELLA-SAMA features her MSPaint drawings here at last!!! ^v^
I want to see the one with the girls carrying those buckets of sap! ^___^
Very well...
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/untitled11.jpg)
QuoteExcellent choice on VMS-sama's dress, btw -- it's the perfect combination of simplicity, elegance and futurism that practically confirms my suspicions that you're actually a fashion designer that (fortunately for us) loves OS-tans. ^^
But judging by the color of the skirt and color relative to Ultrix-san's, I'm guessing they're wearing the same uniform (only VMS-sama has that coat over it).
Try as I might, though, I actually can't find where all the Ultrix-san info is,... all I can find in the forums now are scant references to her and this sketch:
I tried to make it a sorta military-esque uniform...(remember when we were trying to come up with a uniform for the DECs?)
I can't really take credit for it; I took a lot of inspiration from the turn-of-the-century uniforms of FMA:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/State_Military_%28FMA%29.JPG
And yes, Ultrix-tan is wearing the same thing (minus the coat).
QuoteStill very pretty, although coy to a fault. ^.^
Still a VMS fan, though (if for no other reason than that she's taller). ^__^
I do recall she and VMS-sama were at eachothers necks (sibling-wise, anyway), but then anyone seeing the comic could see that. ^^;
I dunno if coy is quite the right description for her...I actually think she's quite forward and...feisty...with a real "live free or die" attitude ;)
She tried for years to usurp VMS-sama's position, but she never quite could. Otherwise I'd bet the two would really dislike each other instead of being just being antagonizing step-sisters.
QuoteAlso, your httpd-tan had longer hair and cables in your sketches, no...? So that's like a younger version of her?
Except for the very short hair, she reminds me a little of Kiri Komori from Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei: ^^
Oh, excuse me...that's sendmail-chan (without the wings, which are only used for "traveling"). I must have got the two confused ^///^
QuotePANEL 2: BWAHAHA!!!!! Honestly,...... even I would think Ultrix-san was not,.... totally up there in the head. ^^;
PANEL 3: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Is that the Unix-like equivalent to a hit below the belt? ^____^;
PANEL 4: Great comeback! ^o^b
And Ultrix-san shouldn't feel so bad,... after all, she set herself up to that one. ^_______
This is pretty much the story of their life together :P
QuoteI know you said "so far", so that means the comic still needs finishing touches and shading no? In panel 4 in particular, between VMS-sama's hand and Httpd-chan's arms, it does look like you had stopped there.
Overall, though, it's very nice work for such short time expenditure, and above all it's cute! ^.^
I think if you can maintain that kinda pace, it shouldn't be impossible for you to do a slightly-more-full-length manga strip. ^___^
Yes, I'm still working on the shading. I've found a very quick way, though...
As for the manga, I still don't think I've got enough patience/focus : |
I should also note I'm trying to come up with some more unique ideas for ITS-tan (at least in her younger days). What I've come up with:
-ITS was one of the first OSs of the "hacker culture"
-Had very strange security features; No passwords (at first), had a command added to "crash it" (thus diminishing the fun of it), and allowed users to spy on (and interfere with) one another. Unix security has been described as putting locks on doors; ITS security has been described as "a neighborhood watch where everyone carries a gun"
-ITS supporters were/are quite opposed to both Multics and Unix.
-ITS used to run exclusively on PDP-10, and was, quote "optimized to within an inch of it's life"
Somehow I'm starting to think ITS-tan should look a little more...youthful and tomboyish. Now I don't think a dress works quite that well on her.
I'm thinking she'd look neat with old-timey goggles, boots and a clothing with a bit of a western touch; if only for the brand of "vigilante" brand of security ITS employed (and the less stuffy late 60s hacker society she hung around with, as opposed to old school Multics and CTSS-sama). Furthermore, I somehow see her as having a very old-fashioned kind of motorbike she gets around on. I've no idea where that notion came from, but it seems like it'd fit her well...
*C-chan rushes into thread*
Gomen gomen, testing testing a lot of stuff and got sidetracked on responses. Plus you guys wrote lots of responses, you know. ^^;
Bear with me, I'll be right back.... but first, wanted to give you the pic of the girl that inspired me for VxWorks-tan last year:
(http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/IntronDepot.jpg)
Couldn't find a picture of her on the web, so scanned this one from my Intron Depot book. Supposed to be an evil spirit warder or something, but the uniform, I thought, was top notch. Face is too youngish-looking for VxWorks, though, so iI think yours is more along the lines of what the doctor ordered. ^___^
Colors haven't thought of much either,... will have to check up on images of the system in action if we can find any.
In any event, I'll be right back. ^o^;
*dashes off to work some more*
Added after 3 minutes: *dashes back briefly*
Okay,... problem solved:
(http://p.blog.csdn.net/images/p_blog_csdn_net/GoodFeeling_Jon/Installing%20VxWorks%20on%20VMware%20-%2006.PNG)
Blue. ^.^
Added after 12 hours 29 minutes: Okay, I'm back and ready to do some proper reviewing. ^^
QuoteI'm all ears...
Well I'm looking for you to be all eyes, cause it's a secret. ^.^
(sorry, not my call,... but Aurora-dono loves keeping people in suspense. ^v^)
QuoteOooh! She sounds like quite the character!
I did a concept drawing for VXworks-tan the day before last...before I read your ideas. But I suppose it could...kinda work...
Any ideas for a color scheme for VXworks-tan? Cause I have an idea or two (mostly based on my Linksys router...XD)
Which also happens to be blue, so I guess we're gold as far as color schemes go. ^__^
You already got my description and my inspirational pic if you need it, so by all means please work your magic. For such an obscure system, I really would like to pass her as a gal who (like Haruhi) is deceptively "one-of-a-kind". ^___^
Long hair is not terribly practical in her field, so I think the style you drew works great. Also noticed she has a CAT6 cable in her hand, which I suppose could offer a not-so-off-the-mark comparison to Indiana Jones and Lara Croft. She's not one to carry an excessive amount of accessories, so I think a whip is a sufficiently multi-functional tool to warrant inclusion in her permanent inventory. ^.^
QuoteFYI, the two girls on the right are two concepts for VOS-tan. I kinda like the outfit farthest to the right...
GYAH!!!! By all means, please hook me up for a hot date, cause she's looks awesome!! ^v^
I could confidently say she's Net Idol quality, which is ironic given she's more likely to RUN the Internet in the background rather than star in it herself. ^___^
I do agree that the second version is probably the best, if only because the dress is easier to draw yet manages to look far sharper and more appealing the frillier version, and her hair in the second version does not have the same soft, "mousy" feel to it that may not suit a lady of her power and position. ^__^
QuoteAnd a concept for AIX-tan. I still don't know that much about her, though...
Ah yes,... the infamous, "un-famous" AIX-tan who we always draw a blank with. Dont' worry,... in time, we'll come up with something nice for her. ^__^
The drawing is nice and pleasant, but I guess the fact that no one knows much about AIX would explain why it doesn't have any particular defining feature. We need to find something to incorporate in her design and personality that demands nothing less than full, unbridled swoonage. ^0^
(kind of like we did with IRIX-tan)
QuoteVery well...
Drama Queen, yay!! ^v^
*C-chan basks in MSPaint glory*
....
Wait,... you're taller than XP-tan? 'v'
QuoteI tried to make it a sorta military-esque uniform...(remember when we were trying to come up with a uniform for the DECs?)
I can't really take credit for it; I took a lot of inspiration from the turn-of-the-century uniforms of FMA:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/State_Military_%28FMA%29.JPG
Sou sou.... so we both took Anime influences then. ^^
Since we did settle that the DEC-tans were alchemists/geomancers themselves, I can definitely see them using more FMA-influenced as far as military garbs.
VxWorks, though, would certainly fit more to something both futuristic and privateer-like (since she's basically self-employed). Of course we can't use a single uniform copied verbatim, but taking the best elements of all of them and mixing them up should produce the best results. ^^
Quote
I dunno if coy is quite the right description for her...I actually think she's quite forward and...feisty...with a real "live free or die" attitude
She tried for years to usurp VMS-sama's position, but she never quite could. Otherwise I'd bet the two would really dislike each other instead of being just being antagonizing step-sisters.
Speaking of the State motto, I hear a lot of New Hampshirites have paid to perform a full state recount from your primary, a wise move given the shadiness of proprietary, papertrail-less e-voting.
Can't help but feel a little envious.... ^^;
So Ultrix-tan's a feisty one, you say? Cute. ^.^
I can think of so many ways to poke fun at the little Unix wannabe .... (BWAHA! ^v^)
She should learn from her cold, cool, stoic step-sister, who technically birthed the strongest empire ever seen in the OS world. ^___^
QuoteOh, excuse me...that's sendmail-chan (without the wings, which are only used for "traveling"). I must have got the two confused ^///^
Ah sou sou, that explain a lot. ^^
But even then, she looks a lot more feminine in your sketch, so that's why I'm guessing this is her in a much younger form.
QuoteAs for the manga, I still don't think I've got enough patience/focus : |
Well, there's always collaborations. ^^
Next month maybe, I can start my FOSSKoma project, and see if the concept takes off. Would be nice if 3 or more people could work on a comic panel (or at least a picture) simultaneously.
QuoteI should also note I'm trying to come up with some more unique ideas for ITS-tan (at least in her younger days). What I've come up with:
-ITS was one of the first OSs of the "hacker culture"
-Had very strange security features; No passwords (at first), had a command added to "crash it" (thus diminishing the fun of it), and allowed users to spy on (and interfere with) one another. Unix security has been described as putting locks on doors; ITS security has been described as "a neighborhood watch where everyone carries a gun"
-ITS supporters were/are quite opposed to both Multics and Unix.
-ITS used to run exclusively on PDP-10, and was, quote "optimized to within an inch of it's life"
Somehow I'm starting to think ITS-tan should look a little more...youthful and tomboyish. Now I don't think a dress works quite that well on her.
I'm thinking she'd look neat with old-timey goggles, boots and a clothing with a bit of a western touch; if only for the brand of "vigilante" brand of security ITS employed (and the less stuffy late 60s hacker society she hung around with, as opposed to old school Multics and CTSS-sama). Furthermore, I somehow see her as having a very old-fashioned kind of motorbike she gets around on. I've no idea where that notion came from, but it seems like it'd fit her well...
OMG!!! ^v^
In that case, look no further than the legendary Kino from Kino's Journey for inspiration:
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/knight2810/kino_no_tabi_01.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c316/yardnam/kino/8855-105218-211459-KINOS_TRAVELS_07.jpg)
Amazing that she sounds more like a maverick than UNIX-sama did. ^__^
However, it also sounds like she was rather ambitionless as well, which would explain why she could never match the greatness of her counterpart (de facto stepsister?).
In other news,...
This article warrants a WTF?!! O__o
http://www.serverwatch.com/eur/article.php/3722066
The thought of a giant Windows Mainframe-tan scares me to bits, even though my tastes say they shouldn't. I'm torn between primal love and moral outrage,... what to do, what to do.... hope the story just blows over.... ^^;
*panic attack*
QuoteCouldn't find a picture of her on the web, so scanned this one from my Intron Depot book. Supposed to be an evil spirit warder or something, but the uniform, I thought, was top notch. Face is too youngish-looking for VxWorks, though, so iI think yours is more along the lines of what the doctor ordered. ^___^
I can see where that would fit her well...perhaps just a bit more futuristic?
QuoteWell I'm looking for you to be all eyes, cause it's a secret. ^.^
(sorry, not my call,... but Aurora-dono loves keeping people in suspense. ^v^)
Oooooh...
QuoteWhich also happens to be blue, so I guess we're gold as far as color schemes go. ^__^
You already got my description and my inspirational pic if you need it, so by all means please work your magic. For such an obscure system, I really would like to pass her as a gal who (like Haruhi) is deceptively "one-of-a-kind". ^___^
Haruhi-ish ;015
I can't say I'll do a picture any time soon...who knows, though ;)
QuoteLong hair is not terribly practical in her field, so I think the style you drew works great. Also noticed she has a CAT6 cable in her hand, which I suppose could offer a not-so-off-the-mark comparison to Indiana Jones and Lara Croft. She's not one to carry an excessive amount of accessories, so I think a whip is a sufficiently multi-functional tool to warrant inclusion in her permanent inventory. ^.^
So you like her cable? I just put that in as an afterthought almost :P
QuoteGYAH!!!! By all means, please hook me up for a hot date, cause she's looks awesome!! ^v^
I could confidently say she's Net Idol quality, which is ironic given she's more likely to RUN the Internet in the background rather than star in it herself. ^___^
I do agree that the second version is probably the best, if only because the dress is easier to draw yet manages to look far sharper and more appealing the frillier version, and her hair in the second version does not have the same soft, "mousy" feel to it that may not suit a lady of her power and position. ^__^
After reading about VOS, I tried to think of what she might wear. First I made it a bit old-fashioned looking, but then I figured it needed a modern touch.
The color scheme will be mostly black and red, but I almost want to make her hair a lighter color for variety, even thought VOS is arguably the closest thing to a descendant of Multics. But I am considering those wing tattoos on Primos-tan might work better on VOS-tan (if not just because of her backless dress).
QuoteAh yes,... the infamous, "un-famous" AIX-tan who we always draw a blank with. Dont' worry,... in time, we'll come up with something nice for her. ^__^
The drawing is nice and pleasant, but I guess the fact that no one knows much about AIX would explain why it doesn't have any particular defining feature. We need to find something to incorporate in her design and personality that demands nothing less than full, unbridled swoonage. ^0^
(kind of like we did with IRIX-tan)
According to the Multicians, AIX is "a Multics system posing as a Unix system"...or something like that. This should be plenty of material...
QuoteWait,... you're taller than XP-tan? 'v'
That depends ;)
QuoteSou sou.... so we both took Anime influences then. ^^
Since we did settle that the DEC-tans were alchemists/geomancers themselves, I can definitely see them using more FMA-influenced as far as military garbs.
VxWorks, though, would certainly fit more to something both futuristic and privateer-like (since she's basically self-employed). Of course we can't use a single uniform copied verbatim, but taking the best elements of all of them and mixing them up should produce the best results. ^^
Speaking of the DECs, I happened to think of a pretty neat (and fitting) alchemical power for VMS-sama. How about...control over water (due to her love of sharks and all)? Could work pretty interestingly in the wintertime, too, as then she could fashion weapons out of ice and such if she got dissarmed...
I also happened to think control of air might work for RSX-san, as the OS itself is kinda mysterious...just thinking out loud, though...
QuoteSpeaking of the State motto, I hear a lot of New Hampshirites have paid to perform a full state recount from your primary, a wise move given the shadiness of proprietary, papertrail-less e-voting.
Can't help but feel a little envious.... ^^;
We NH-ites don't want to be railroaded ;)
QuoteSo Ultrix-tan's a feisty one, you say? Cute. ^.^
I can think of so many ways to poke fun at the little Unix wannabe .... (BWAHA! ^v^)
She should learn from her cold, cool, stoic step-sister, who technically birthed the strongest empire ever seen in the OS world. ^___^
Oh yeah, these two practically feed off of each other's antagonism.
QuoteAh sou sou, that explain a lot. ^^
But even then, she looks a lot more feminine in your sketch, so that's why I'm guessing this is her in a much younger form.
I actually wanted the daemons (perhaps with an exception of httpd-tan) to be a bit on the "neutral" side ;)
QuoteWell, there's always collaborations. ^^
Next month maybe, I can start my FOSSKoma project, and see if the concept takes off. Would be nice if 3 or more people could work on a comic panel (or at least a picture) simultaneously.
That could work...maybe somebody does the vector sketch, another the shading/details or what not...
QuoteOMG!!! ^v^
In that case, look no further than the legendary Kino from Kino's Journey for inspiration
Oh wow...That's freaking eerie.. O____O
I've never even heard of Kino's Journey (until I wikied it)...yet that fits my envisioning of ITS-chan perfectly! Right down to the goggles and pistol and all!
*X-Files music plays in background*
QuoteAmazing that she sounds more like a maverick than UNIX-sama did. ^__^
However, it also sounds like she was rather ambitionless as well, which would explain why she could never match the greatness of her counterpart (de facto stepsister?).
I think the undoing of ITS was it's total lack of portability -___-
But ITS does seem to be more of a "social" OS, so I guess ITS-tan would be quite friendly as well.
QuoteIn other news,...
This article warrants a WTF?!! O__o
http://www.serverwatch.com/eur/article.php/3722066
The thought of a giant Windows Mainframe-tan scares me to bits, even though my tastes say they shouldn't. I'm torn between primal love and moral outrage,... what to do, what to do.... hope the story just blows over.... ^^;
*panic attack*
Eeeekkk! O__O
In other-other news, in that article I read something about dual-core Itanium 2 servers capable of supporting VMS and WinServer 2003...
Think, for a moment, about a fight between a shark fiend and a fish-girl... ;018
QuoteI can see where that would fit her well...perhaps just a bit more futuristic?
But of course. ^-^
QuoteHaruhi-ish
I can't say I'll do a picture any time soon...who knows, though
Well not male-highting, breast fondling, alien/time-traveler/esper believing Haruhism....
But I mean,... just a personality that is not very common among your average female Anime protagonists. ^___^;
I doubt I'll do one either given my queue....
*whimpers at size of queue*
So help me Bella-Wan Kenobi! You're my only hope! ^.^
QuoteSo you like her cable? I just put that in as an afterthought almost :P
Yeah, it's a'ight. ^__^
QuoteAfter reading about VOS, I tried to think of what she might wear. First I made it a bit old-fashioned looking, but then I figured it needed a modern touch.
The color scheme will be mostly black and red, but I almost want to make her hair a lighter color for variety, even thought VOS is arguably the closest thing to a descendant of Multics. But I am considering those wing tattoos on Primos-tan might work better on VOS-tan (if not just because of her backless dress).
Yes, these ideas sound great and I say go for it full force! ^v^
But don't forget my hot date! ^0^
What kind of cologne does VOS-tan like? I'm sure it's gotta be extra classy,.... but I have a ton of devalued C-chan Points to splurge with. ^.^
QuoteAccording to the Multicians, AIX is "a Multics system posing as a Unix system"...or something like that. This should be plenty of material...
Such as the little clandestine Multics-sama shrine, no? Very well, I leave the rest in your capable hands. ^___^
QuoteSpeaking of the DECs, I happened to think of a pretty neat (and fitting) alchemical power for VMS-sama. How about...control over water (due to her love of sharks and all)? Could work pretty interestingly in the wintertime, too, as then she could fashion weapons out of ice and such if she got dissarmed...
I also happened to think control of air might work for RSX-san, as the OS itself is kinda mysterious...just thinking out loud, though...
No, this actually sounds like a great idea as well. Plus there are plenty of elements to do deal with, so you could have a definitive geomancer (earth-based magic), as well as another DEC-tan who controls fire (Ultrix-tan?), lightning, vegetation, plasma, etc. ^__^
But these are ultra-specialized skills, though, which have helped them survive, but not necessarily thrive. -.-
QuoteWe NH-ites don't want to be railroaded
Good to hear, good to hear. But don't let your guard down, as the people who "count" your votes are likely the same ones who "recount" them, no? (or at least that was the case in a certain Midwest state...) ^^;
QuoteThat could work...maybe somebody does the vector sketch, another the shading/details or what not...
Correct. ^___^
I'd probably experiment with single drawings first, and everyone of any skill set and a copy of Inkscape would be more than welcome to modify the SVG file to manage whatever area they feel best fits their skillset (from full shading, to minor details on a dress or what-not.). As the project ensues, all the best traits of everyone's contribution would be merged together (or forked to a separate design if someone wishes). I think it'd be exciting and fun, but I'd like to start this in February to give me time to finish some other things. ^___^
QuoteOh wow...That's freaking eerie.. O____O
I've never even heard of Kino's Journey (until I wikied it)...yet that fits my envisioning of ITS-chan perfectly! Right down to the goggles and pistol and all!
*X-Files music plays in background*
I'll log it as one of those "Universal Coincidences" and call it a day. ^.^;
No but seriously, if you have not watched Kino's Journey,... WATCH IT!
It's of the same calibre of rich, enticing storytelling as Haibane Renmei (probably even MORE so in fact!). I liken it myself to a gorgeous, mature blend of:
The Little Prince
+
The Twilight Zone
+
Aesop's Fables
+
Cowboy Bebop
QuoteI think the undoing of ITS was it's total lack of portability -___-
But ITS does seem to be more of a "social" OS, so I guess ITS-tan would be quite friendly as well.
AHA! No wonder she didn't develop more portability, if she was out partying all the time! ^____^;
She should've learned from UNIX-sama, who planned for the future like a chipmunk filling itself for hibernation. ^.^
*sees HUGE family of "Nixes"*
...And obviously bred like a rabbit..... ^________________^;
*runs for dear life at sacriligious comment* ;^0^;
QuoteEeeekkk! O__O
In other-other news, in that article I read something about dual-core Itanium 2 servers capable of supporting VMS and WinServer 2003...
Think, for a moment, about a fight between a shark fiend and a fish-girl...
Um,... uh,... I don't know if that should be categorized as cannibalism or infanticide or what? O___O;
Oh great,... now you make me ph34r for the future of European Mainframes. ^________^;
QuoteWell not male-highting, breast fondling, alien/time-traveler/esper believing Haruhism....
But I mean,... just a personality that is not very common among your average female Anime protagonists. ^___^;
I doubt I'll do one either given my queue....
*whimpers at size of queue*
So help me Bella-Wan Kenobi! You're my only hope! ^.^
Like my queue is any better? :P
QuoteYes, these ideas sound great and I say go for it full force! ^v^
But don't forget my hot date! ^0^
What kind of cologne does VOS-tan like? I'm sure it's gotta be extra classy,.... but I have a ton of devalued C-chan Points to splurge with. ^.^
She likes Eau de Server, I believe!
QuoteSuch as the little clandestine Multics-sama shrine, no? Very well, I leave the rest in your capable hands. ^___^
Gaaaah! Speaking of espers, I was going to mention that! XD
*continues to hear X-Files music*
Will someone turn that damn music off!
QuoteNo, this actually sounds like a great idea as well. Plus there are plenty of elements to do deal with, so you could have a definitive geomancer (earth-based magic), as well as another DEC-tan who controls fire (Ultrix-tan?), lightning, vegetation, plasma, etc. ^__^
But these are ultra-specialized skills, though, which have helped them survive, but not necessarily thrive. -.-
Oh yeah, VMS-sama's "powers" would probably be useless without any water around...
I'm still thinking about designing a DEC Unix (aka, Tru64, or the tongue-twisting DEC OSF/1 AXP)-tan...
-It was based on the Mach kernel (like NeXTSTEP, OSX)
-Was branched off of OSF/1 Unix, started by the Free Software Foundation
-Made to compete with System V Unix (On that note, I've always wondered...would System V qualify for it's own -tan?)
QuoteGood to hear, good to hear. But don't let your guard down, as the people who "count" your votes are likely the same ones who "recount" them, no? (or at least that was the case in a certain Midwest state...) ^^;
Yes, I saw that documentary on the 2004 election and it's lack of...erm..."proof"...
But I shan't get into politics ;)
QuoteCorrect. ^___^
I'd probably experiment with single drawings first, and everyone of any skill set and a copy of Inkscape would be more than welcome to modify the SVG file to manage whatever area they feel best fits their skillset (from full shading, to minor details on a dress or what-not.). As the project ensues, all the best traits of everyone's contribution would be merged together (or forked to a separate design if someone wishes). I think it'd be exciting and fun, but I'd like to start this in February to give me time to finish some other things. ^___^
Yeah, I saw your other thread. Sounds very exciting!
QuoteNo but seriously, if you have not watched Kino's Journey,... WATCH IT!
It's of the same calibre of rich, enticing storytelling as Haibane Renmei (probably even MORE so in fact!). I liken it myself to a gorgeous, mature blend of:
The Little Prince
+
The Twilight Zone
+
Aesop's Fables
+
Cowboy Bebop
Oooh...that does sound like my kinda series...
Better than Haibane Renmei it may be, but does it have the Mac dude?
(http://cff.ssw.net/episodes/ep08/08-083.jpg)
Sorry, I couldn't resist :P
QuoteAHA! No wonder she didn't develop more portability, if she was out partying all the time! ^____^;
She should've learned from UNIX-sama, who planned for the future like a chipmunk filling itself for hibernation. ^.^
Well, ITS-tan was quite sociable. She felt quite secure in her small niche, compared to her industrious...niece?
Quote*sees HUGE family of "Nixes"*
...And obviously bred like a rabbit..... ^________________^;
*runs for dear life at sacriligious comment* ;^0^;
Oooooh....snap! ;015
*thinks about what resource hogging BSDs will do if they get a hold of C-Chan...*
*waves arms wildly*
*creates diversion*
HEY! Nixes! You guys are more virulent than an engineered strain of monkey pox!
*sees horde of pitchfork and torch-wielding Unixes turn toward me*
*Outta here!*
*runs off*
*VMS-sama! Multics-sama! Someone! Mad Unixes!
SANCTUARY!*
QuoteUm,... uh,... I don't know if that should be categorized as cannibalism or infanticide or what? O___O;
Oh great,... now you make me ph34r for the future of European Mainframes. ^________^;
I think that would be categorized as sushi :P
What, you don't want Windows running on a many multi-thousand dollar machine...?
**Added when I came to after blacking out, from laughing at this article**
Yesterday I was researching some more Multics-like OSs, including Amber and GEMSOS (the world's only OS [kernel] to receive a Class A1 Verified Protection rating!), which promise to make for interesting -tans.
But all this got thrown out the window when I found the most funny/interesting/bizarre article I've ever read...An AUTOBIOGRAPHY
of an system, the SAIL (whose OS was WAITS).
It follows the system from it's difficult birth to it's quiet later life, and is told from SAIL's POV! Worth a read, but be warned, it gets quite kinky (yes, you heard me correctly) toward the end XD
http://infolab.stanford.edu/pub/voy/museum/pictures/AIlab/SailFarewell.html
But I tell you, this article takes a heck of a lot of work out of my hands. Just reading it I already have a great idea for a WAITS-tan.
Made in 1966, WAITS was considered a "west-coast ITS", and was in fact a heavily modified version of TOPS-10 at Stanford University. It was built on a PDP 6 and 10, like ITS, too.
If half this stuff is true, there is rife material for a WAITS-tan. There is almost too much colorful debauchery, as it is eclipsing the her more serious accomplishments in my mind, and she does have quite a legacy (indirectly including our much-beloved Macs...and directly, our Alt key)
I guess she'd be TOPS10-tan's daughter, and I guess ITS step-sister or something like that. Of course she'd share a resemblance to ITS-tan, but with perhaps lighter hair. And she'd dress quite wildly for that era; think a cross between Victorian style and 60s fashion (complete with a miniskirt). I see her as scoffing as the conservative, serious and stoic attitude among her peer OS-tans.
An accomplished professional and genius she may be (including the fields of mathematics, language, and musical composition) but she's also very progressive thinking and free loving (in a very 60s way) and lives with a great zest for life (including doing some $#!% that would make Homeko blush!). Although, I have no idea on the status of the system and if it's dead or not...
She especially dislikes, yup, you guessed it, the Unixes. I suppose putting the WAITS-tan and a Unix in the same room would be like...mixing nitroglycerin and a flamethrower O__O
For more info on WAITS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAITS
It'll be a while to reply to the FOSA thread, so let me get these replied to first. ^^
*starts typing*
QuoteLike my queue is any better? :P
Oh right, I forgot, you're my fellow busy-body sister-in-arms. ^^;
HOLD ME! ;^0^;
*weeps in prospect of unfinished projects*
QuoteShe likes Eau de Server, I believe!
Ewww de Saba?!! '.'
...............okay,... kinda makes sense. ^^;
*starts dousing self with mackerel essence*
QuoteI'm still thinking about designing a DEC Unix (aka, Tru64, or the tongue-twisting DEC OSF/1 AXP)-tan...
-It was based on the Mach kernel (like NeXTSTEP, OSX)
-Was branched off of OSF/1 Unix, started by the Free Software Foundation
-Made to compete with System V Unix (On that note, I've always wondered...would System V qualify for it's own -tan?)
Let's just say that "Tru64" sounds a heck of a lot more marketable. ^^;
That is quite a history, though,... and makes her an even "closer" distant cousin to the OSX-tans. ^.^
As for System V,... as far as the C-chan is concerned...... ahhhhh,..... wellllll.,............ no. ^___^
I know the reasons, but the same case could be made that kernel release 2.4.x and after could be a totally different Linux-sama. And since things could get very silly very fast under that paradign, better to just explain away those details as a change in fashion, profession or character. (after all, post-Unix War UNIX-sama is a heck of a lot more mature and placid than her former self, and Linux-sama isn't that small, shy, flipper-wearing girl we used to know. ^^'
QuoteOooh...that does sound like my kinda series...
Better than Haibane Renmei it may be, but does it have the Mac dude?
Sorry, I couldn't resist :P
Well no,.......... but,............. it does kinda have someone that resembles Colonel Hughes in episode 4 (not that that's a good thing, though). ^___^'
BTW, if you do decide to watch it, but you also LOVE bunnies, please close your eyes when Episode 2 starts. ^___________________^;
QuoteWell, ITS-tan was quite sociable. She felt quite secure in her small niche, compared to her industrious...niece?
Now she's starting to sound like an ancestral Apple-tan/Mac-tan. ^________^;
QuoteOooooh....snap!
*thinks about what resource hogging BSDs will do if they get a hold of C-Chan...*
*waves arms wildly*
*creates diversion*
HEY! Nixes! You guys are more virulent than an engineered strain of monkey pox!
*sees horde of pitchfork and torch-wielding Unixes turn toward me*
*Outta here!*
*runs off*
*VMS-sama! Multics-sama! Someone! Mad Unixes! SANCTUARY!*
*sheds crocodile tears*
Bella-sama,.... i will never forget your sacrifice. ;^_______________^;
*starts trotting coyly the other way*
*trips over FreeBSD-tan's feet*
Ohhhhh..... GAWD, I forgot I made you smart. @_____@;
.
.
.
.
*gulp sound*
*C-chan vanishes*
QuoteI think that would be categorized as sushi :P
What, you don't want Windows running on a many multi-thousand dollar machine...?
Well,... I guess it's not as bad as having Windows run a battleship. ^>^;
QuoteShe especially dislikes, yup, you guessed it, the Unixes. I suppose putting the WAITS-tan and a Unix in the same room would be like...mixing nitroglycerin and a flamethrower O__O
For more info on WAITS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAITS
Holy crapola! Where are all these ancient, progressive-minded OSes that are crawling out of the woodwork coming from! @o@
I'd love to read both articles on WAITS once I'm done with the rest of my replies, but by GAWD has the past livened up so much in the past couple of months! ^___________^
Hmm, What has happened in my absence?
From what I can tell This topic has fallen into the twilight zone, and C-chan and Bella have decided to anger the Unixes...O.O
Quote from: "Bella"
Quote from: "C-chan"Quote:
*sees HUGE family of "Nixes"*
...And obviously bred like a rabbit..... ^________________^;
*runs for dear life at sacriligious comment* ;^0^;
Oooooh....snap!
*thinks about what resource hogging BSDs will do if they get a hold of C-Chan...*
*waves arms wildly*
*creates diversion*
HEY! Nixes! You guys are more virulent than an engineered strain of monkey pox!
*sees horde of pitchfork and torch-wielding Unixes turn toward me*
*Outta here!*
*runs off*
*VMS-sama! Multics-sama! Someone! Mad Unixes! SANCTUARY!*
Ohohoho! So now the ball falls in Techno's court.
Well, if you repent for some of your past actions I suppose I could find you shelter in the house of Windows...If the great NT-sama allows.
*Steps a bit closer to Bella*
A word of advice..If Emuii makes any food..For the love of all that is holy..
DON'T EAT IT I speak from personal experience..
*Points toward Fchan-tan and a portal*
Or you could see what's behind door number two.
Quote from: "Bella"But I tell you, this article takes a heck of a lot of work out of my hands. Just reading it I already have a great idea for a WAITS-tan.
Made in 1966, WAITS was considered a "west-coast ITS", and was in fact a heavily modified version of TOPS-10 at Stanford University. It was built on a PDP 6 and 10, like ITS, too.
If half this stuff is true, there is rife material for a WAITS-tan. There is almost too much colorful debauchery, as it is eclipsing the her more serious accomplishments in my mind, and she does have quite a legacy (indirectly including our much-beloved Macs...and directly, our Alt key)
I guess she'd be TOPS10-tan's daughter, and I guess ITS step-sister or something like that. Of course she'd share a resemblance to ITS-tan, but with perhaps lighter hair. And she'd dress quite wildly for that era; think a cross between Victorian style and 60s fashion (complete with a miniskirt). I see her as scoffing as the conservative, serious and stoic attitude among her peer OS-tans.
An accomplished professional and genius she may be (including the fields of mathematics, language, and musical composition) but she's also very progressive thinking and free loving (in a very 60s way) and lives with a great zest for life (including doing some $#!% that would make Homeko blush!). Although, I have no idea on the status of the system and if it's dead or not...
She especially dislikes, yup, you guessed it, the Unixes. I suppose putting the WAITS-tan and a Unix in the same room would be like...mixing nitroglycerin and a flamethrower O__O
For more info on WAITS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAITS
Oooooh Another older OS.
She sounds like quite the character. Can't wait to see her. ^_^
'Til next time. I'm off!
QuoteLet's just say that "Tru64" sounds a heck of a lot more marketable. ^^;
That is quite a history, though,... and makes her an even "closer" distant cousin to the OSX-tans. ^.^
Somehow I think Tru64-tan would be blonde (cause of the Mac relation).
QuoteAs for System V,... as far as the C-chan is concerned...... ahhhhh,..... wellllll.,............ no. ^___^
I know the reasons, but the same case could be made that kernel release 2.4.x and after could be a totally different Linux-sama. And since things could get very silly very fast under that paradign, better to just explain away those details as a change in fashion, profession or character. (after all, post-Unix War UNIX-sama is a heck of a lot more mature and placid than her former self, and Linux-sama isn't that small, shy, flipper-wearing girl we used to know. ^^'
Thank goodness...we don't need
more angry Unix-tans after us O___O
As for Linux-tan, I recently read something like only 2% of the original kernel remains ;)
QuoteWell no,.......... but,............. it does kinda have someone that resembles Colonel Hughes in episode 4 (not that that's a good thing, though). ^___^'
BTW, if you do decide to watch it, but you also LOVE bunnies, please close your eyes when Episode 2 starts. ^___________________^;
Uh oh...someone decided to have a rabbit dinner, eh? :P
Quote*sheds crocodile tears*
Bella-sama,.... i will never forget your sacrifice. ;^_______________^;
*starts trotting coyly the other way*
*trips over FreeBSD-tan's feet*
Ohhhhh..... GAWD, I forgot I made you smart. @_____@;
.
.
.
.
*gulp sound*
*C-chan vanishes*
While your there, say hi to the headcrabs for me, C-Chan!
QuoteWell,... I guess it's not as bad as having Windows run a battleship. ^>^;
Heehee...
QuoteHoly crapola! Where are all these ancient, progressive-minded OSes that are crawling out of the woodwork coming from! @o@
I'd love to read both articles on WAITS once I'm done with the rest of my replies, but by GAWD has the past livened up so much in the past couple of months! ^___________^
I assure you that WAITS-tan has lived a life more interesting and colorful than any other OS-tan of her era...
I also assure you that you have never read anything like that first article ;)
QuoteOhohoho! So now the ball falls in Techno's court.
Well, if you repent for some of your past actions I suppose I could find you shelter in the house of Windows...If the great NT-sama allows.
*Steps a bit closer to Bella*
A word of advice..If Emuii makes any food..For the love of all that is holy..
DON'T EAT IT I speak from personal experience..
*Points toward Fchan-tan and a portal*
Or you could see what's behind door number two.
Oh now, I like my NT-sama! She's the smart one!
And faced with a choice between Emuii-chan's home cooking and Effie-chan's portal....
*gulps*
I'll take my chances with diner. Bad cooking can cause sickness than lasts a while...but some things cannot be un-seen O________O
QuoteOooooh Another older OS.
She sounds like quite the character. Can't wait to see her.
Great! I've come up with a few concepts, I'll have to post them soon!
Quote'Til next time. I'm off!
Awww, darn...
*thinks up Techno-trap*
*Oh, Inu-T...!*
QuoteSomehow I think Tru64-tan would be blonde (cause of the Mac relation).
QuoteThank goodness...we don't need more angry Unix-tans after us O___O
As for Linux-tan, I recently read something like only 2% of the original kernel remains
Well, if you think about it, the cells in our body die out and get replaced by new ones. With the exception of some long-lived body components, I'd say only 2% of you is the same Bella-sama from when you were born. ^________^
QuoteUh oh...someone decided to have a rabbit dinner, eh? :P
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........
.............
Well yes and no.........
.......................................
...Just watch it, you'll see. ^^;
QuoteWhile your there, say hi to the headcrabs for me, C-Chan!
*muffled speech from inside stomach*
Oh yeah, did that and then some! We're currently playing Texas Hold'em, actually! ^__^*headcrabs squeak at C-chan to shut up and keep playing*
QuoteI assure you that WAITS-tan has lived a life more interesting and colorful than any other OS-tan of her era...
I also assure you that you have never read anything like that first article
Oh right, just reminded me.... ^^;
*saves article to stick, to read in EeePC*
QuoteHmm, What has happened in my absence?
From what I can tell This topic has fallen into the twilight zone, and C-chan and Bella have decided to anger the Unixes...O.O
*Headcrab B gets Royal Flush and squeaks triumphantly*
GAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!! Tell me about it! Tis the wrath of the Unix Gods!!!!!!!!!! ^0^
I just got back from a little birthday party my family threw for me...nothing huge, but I had a great diner and cake :D
But I gotta confess I feel quite old. Even though I'm not really ^////^
Anyhoo...I've been meaning to post these...
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/331.jpg)
It's WAITS-tan! Or at least the preconcepts. The left is WAITS-tan circa the 60s, the middle is circa the 70s, and on the right....is her at work. Somehow I think WAITS-tan would feel most comfortable working outside, maybe taking in a couple of afternoon drum circles, rather than being shut in an office :P
Physically, I think she'd have dark blondish hair and dark eyes...I dunno why I think glasses would work well on her...but they seem to fit.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/330.jpg)
On the left is ITS-tan on her offroad motorbike. I tried to make her look more rugged, with maybe just a bit of an Annie Oakley look. Somehow I think she'd be excellent with a gun (because of ITS's strange security features), though she only uses it in self-defense, and only to warn people not to mess with her T__T
On the right is Honeywell Kitchen Computer-tan. Born in 1969, she was "hailed" as a perfect chef's companion; But the truth is, a computer engineer would be more compatible with her than a cook (as the computer's only way of outputting information was a panel of lights!). She's quite slow-witted, has trouble speaking or listening clearly, her only talent being a fairly good memory. Her skills as a chef are questionable, to say the least.
As none were ever sold, you could theorize she died that very year...but where's the fun in that? Somehow I think she forever lived with the Honeywell-tans, attempting to forcefeed them her atrocious meals (to little avail)
Which brings us to the top of the page...Kitchen Computer-tan showing Multics-sama cake she made (which is still on fire, BTW). Multics-sama replies with "Let
them eat cake! Cause I shan't eat
that!"
"Them" presumably refers to GCOS-san, or one of her other enemies :P
QuoteWell, if you think about it, the cells in our body die out and get replaced by new ones. With the exception of some long-lived body components, I'd say only 2% of you is the same Bella-sama from when you were born. ^________^
o_o
You just blew my mind....
...and made me feel even
older!
Quote*muffled speech from inside stomach*
Oh yeah, did that and then some! We're currently playing Texas Hold'em, actually! ^__^
*headcrabs squeak at C-chan to shut up and keep playing*
XD
Hey, do you see any of my missing paths from my group Vintage-tan Inkscape export? Cause maybe BSD-chan ate 'em while I wasn't looking...
QuoteOh right, just reminded me.... ^^;
*saves article to stick, to read in EeePC*
Once you read that, my design for WAITS-tan will make one heck of a lot more sense :P
What is this I see, but lovely fine wines aged to perfection!!!!! ^v^
Just enough to make an old pig's heart, swoo-- WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @0@
Yo-yo-yo-yo-yo-yo-you-your birthday's TODAY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bu-bubububububub-but..... But I thought you said it was at the and of the month?!!!!!!!!!! @______________@
OH NO!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT'S NOT READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;^0^;
*C-chan faints*
...
*yes, that's "faints"*
Added after 2 minutes:
*recovers*
Happy Birthday.... ;________;
*quickly bakes Bella-sama Cake-O-Shame....
(http://manolobrides.com/images/ColetteCake2.jpg)
Multics-sama: Let THEM eat cake! Cause I shan't eat that!
*C-chan crawls underneath a rock, and curls into a ball in shame* X_______X
Oh my gosh! You actually did make a Honeywell Kitchen Computer-tan!
And happy birthday, Bella!
*keeps curling in shame*
I guess the least I can do is give a brief... albeit shameful review of your latest and greatest.
(I knew it! C-chan doth sucketh! Much sucketh doth the C-chan have! ;^0^; )
I actually read the SAIL article, and I see what you mean.... WOW! What an excellent job! Almost makes you want to write a fanfiction. ^_____^
(reminds self not to EVEN think about it, or else.... ^^; )
One thing that strikes me off the bat about WAITS-sama is the historical accuracy of the hair. You'd think you plopped her right out of a 60's movie. ^v^
But yes, her 60's and 70's look gives off an intriguing mixture of retro and classy (or am I being redundant? sorry, must be the eternal shame ^^; )
I do prefer her profile, though,... she seems so,............ cute and inquisitive. ^.^
Another thing that strikes me is the prevalence of that oval pattern, on her dress in her 60's look, and in her leggings in her 70's (let's DISCO!) look. I think it adds that distinction that really draws her out... but what exactly does it mean? ^___^
(I bet it's obvious, but I'm too blinded by shame to realize.... woah is the pig and his shame! ^0^)
Hard to think that this gorgeous young lady was the same one conducting that.... "evening" experiment. Well, but at least now no one can accuse ME of "shipping". ^^;
QuotePhysically, I think she'd have dark blondish hair and dark eyes...I dunno why I think glasses would work well on her...but they seem to fit.
Glasses fit, yes (for a sophisticated AI, naturally! she'd be like 2K-tan on steroids! ^.^). Don't ask me about hair color, though, as I'll propose something pretty far-fetched like teal or lavendar. Dark blonde should do the trick. ^__^
Regarding MULTICS-sama....
BWAHAHAHAAHAA!!!!! That one's a classic!!!!!!! ^v^
It'd make SOOOOOOOOO much historical sense if the one who ended up getting that cake was UNIX-sama (then again, wrong time period).
Honeywell Kitchen Computer-tan officially takes the honorary title of earliest Hardware-tan drawn to date. ^.^
*round of applause*
Simple, 50's homemaker look, but so damn appropriate. Has a cute porcelin doll face that clearly looks even cuter when she's angry (which judging by her skill, probably happens often). I reckon her mitts and chef's hat are permanent accessories, no? ^___^
*stares at ITS-tan*
ZOMG!!!!!!!!!! PILE-DRIVER SWOON ON!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^0^
*swoons pile-driver style*
Added after 9 minutes: I figure it's very easy to please me, but you really took the cake with this one!
(some pun intended, in light of Kitchen-san's presence). ^^
She transcends the cuteness threshold, into the forbidden realm of hotness. @v@
Congratulations, you've succeeded in making a Kino-type character look, not only very very very very beautiful and stylish,.... but also,... more importantly,... NOT SHORT!!! ;^0^;
(although episode 4 sorta/kinda explains why Kino's stunted)
And the bike is definitely of a much older era (and I imagine the gun is too).
While probably not as powerful as her (niece, you said?), I can still see her as a character that probably can't be messed with, even today. ^___^
And not just cause she can defend herself very well,... but because she might have an ardent cult following ready to tear anything that gets in her way to shreds..
<__<
....
>___>
.......
...........
[whispering]
Myself included.... ^__~
No but seriously, you did a fantastic job! ^v^
Makes the shame of my no-show birthday present burn all the more,..... "shamier". ^^;
*curls into ball in shame*
QuoteYou just blew my mind....
...and made me feel even older!
BAH! I thought you said you were a young pup. ^___^
Practically a full-blown adult,.... if you lived in Canada. ^.^
QuoteXD
Hey, do you see any of my missing paths from my group Vintage-tan Inkscape export? Cause maybe BSD-chan ate 'em while I wasn't looking...
[in gastric juice sauna]
Sorry,... the Crabs said they tossed out a lot of old stuff into the intestine shoot,... like,... probably about 2 days before I dropped in. Better luck next time, though..... ^___^
......
Phew sure is.... acidic in here, no? ^^;
HA! I stole Bella-san's birthday present: LOTS O' SNOW! MAW HAW HAW HAW. -w-
I mean, er, congrats, or something XD
Also, CC, it's the 22:nd (or 21:st depending on your timezone, so I presume your birthday was the 21:st, Bella-san?). It's...near the end of the month. Kinda. Maybe. TIEM PARADOX TIEM!!!
*swooshes off*
Quote
You just blew my mind....
...and made me feel even older!
Always remember, Bella - you're middle-age when you turn 20.
_W_
Jk, jk! ^-^; Also my chemistry teacher said just that to me today - and I realized that it's damn good that we're not thinking in terms of Mitosis when we think of our age, since that'd probably drive us all insane with collective age-noia. Naw, lass - stay where ya are and be happy that you now are allowed to get yourself batshit drunk. In Canada. Or Europe. But not where you are right now. Er. Now i lost myself >v>;
I, on the other hand, feel old thinking about stuff that happened before year 2000 - just imagine how it would feel for me to go about the stuff you're doing XD
*stays away from the mainframes for his own good*
But anyway, GJ on birtday-age (lol) and as usual...
MULTICS, FUCK YEAH
I'd hit any of those lasses any day. (damn, I sound like such a /b/-tard now >-<)
Hey everyone, I told you I'd start posting more didn't I?
Now to review---Hubba WHA? It's your birthday?
Well then. Happy Birthday Bella-san. On such short notice I didn't have enough time to get a cake. My appologies...I'm so unprepared...-_-
I may not have a cake but I do have this. *holds out a candle lit by blue foxfire*
Now make a wish and blow it out, hurry before I end up catching fire. Heh..
WAITS-Tan
Nice, She's beautiful. Like C-chan already said The 60's style dress looks really authentic. The 70's style WAITS does too.
[thinking]
Must resist the urge to Disco dance.Great Job Bella! ^_^
*peeks over the working WAITS-tan's shoulder*
Ooooh Whatcha doin?
.
.
*Techno can be seen flying through the air backwards several seconds later*'
Woah, she really did make a Honeywell kitchen computer-tan.
(Personally the actual HKC itself was a bit too bulky and expensive for my tastes, plus I don't recall ever seeing any being sold.)
But the -tan, She looks simply adorable.
The question is...Do I want her making food for me?
(Wait...Didn't I just mention bad cooking a second ago? *hears X-Files music*)
I love her outfit. But now whenever I see cooking mits I think of the kind Buu from DBZ/GT.
LOL, that Multics-sama comic. You've made me smile.
ITS-Tan looks cute and tomboyish.
Why does the phrase "Gunslinger Girl" come to mind when I look at her?
Quote from: "Bella"Awww, darn...
*thinks up Techno-trap*
*Oh, Inu-T...!*
*Techno's left ear perks up*
Huh?
On another note, while I was typing this I had my Windows Media Player on 1. FM 80's and "Shame on the Moon" Played.
*stares at C-chan while the X-files theme plays*
I promise updated versions of those pics I drew earlier soon, just one little thing.........
..................How do I convert Imported pictures into an editable vector version? -_-;;
QuoteOn another note, while I was typing this I had my Windows Media Player on 1. FM 80's and "Shame on the Moon" Played.
*stares at C-chan while the X-files theme plays*
GAAAAAAAAAH!!!! ;^0^;
*cries up storm of shame*
QuoteI promise updated versions of those pics I drew earlier soon, just one little thing.........
..................How do I convert Imported pictures into an editable vector version? -_-;;
Glad you asked. ^__^
The quick-and-dirty way to do it is using the "Trace Bitmap" command found in the Path menu above. ^.^
Course, this doesn't turn lines into strokes, but everything into giant path blobs, so I wouldn't say it's 100% editable.
Would I and Bella-san do, therefore, is to simply retrace the lines from whatever art we're scanning. Not unlike how you would ink over a pencil-drawn illustration. ^____^
Speaking of which, you're cordially invited to join the FOSA team as well. We could use someone of your creativity. ^__^
QuoteSpeaking of which, you're cordially invited to join the FOSA team as well. We could use someone of your creativity. ^__^
*nod nod*
QuoteYo-yo-yo-yo-yo-yo-you-your birthday's TODAY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bu-bubububububub-but..... But I thought you said it was at the and of the month?!!!!!!!!!! @______________@
Sorry...my reasoning: anything past the 20th is the end of the month ;)
Quote*quickly bakes Bella-sama Cake-O-Shame....
Mmmmmmmmm....shame cake.....
QuoteOh my gosh! You actually did make a Honeywell Kitchen Computer-tan!
And happy birthday, Bella!
I'm true to my word :P
And thank you!
QuoteI actually read the SAIL article, and I see what you mean.... WOW! What an excellent job! Almost makes you want to write a fanfiction. ^_____^
(reminds self not to EVEN think about it, or else.... ^^; )
Tell me about it! I wish all OSs would write their own "autobiography" XD
*Thinks about possible Multics autobiography...*
*Hello, I'm Multics. You may not know me, but surly you've ripped me off to some extent, you ingrates...*
;026
QuoteOne thing that strikes me off the bat about WAITS-sama is the historical accuracy of the hair. You'd think you plopped her right out of a 60's movie. ^v^
But yes, her 60's and 70's look gives off an intriguing mixture of retro and classy (or am I being redundant? sorry, must be the eternal shame ^^; )
I do prefer her profile, though,... she seems so,............ cute and inquisitive. ^.^
Another thing that strikes me is the prevalence of that oval pattern, on her dress in her 60's look, and in her leggings in her 70's (let's DISCO!) look. I think it adds that distinction that really draws her out... but what exactly does it mean? ^___^
(I bet it's obvious, but I'm too blinded by shame to realize.... woah is the pig and his shame! ^0^)
Hard to think that this gorgeous young lady was the same one conducting that.... "evening" experiment. Well, but at least now no one can accuse ME of "shipping". ^^
I tried to make her look like a cross between sorta a 1960s and Victorian styles...I think I made her look more 60s-ish, though...
The ovals have no real meaning, and that's my poor idea of paisley on the dress to the left.
As for the...incident...let us use the classic standby: It was the groovy 70s! Everyone was doing everything! Free love! Keep on truckin'! All that!
QuoteGlasses fit, yes (for a sophisticated AI, naturally! she'd be like 2K-tan on steroids! ^.^). Don't ask me about hair color, though, as I'll propose something pretty far-fetched like teal or lavendar. Dark blonde should do the trick. ^__^
Awww, it was still the early days. Her makers never would have let her have teal hair :P
QuoteBWAHAHAHAAHAA!!!!! That one's a classic!!!!!!! ^v^
It'd make SOOOOOOOOO much historical sense if the one who ended up getting that cake was UNIX-sama (then again, wrong time period).
Honeywell Kitchen Computer-tan officially takes the honorary title of earliest Hardware-tan drawn to date. ^.^
*round of applause*
Simple, 50's homemaker look, but so damn appropriate. Has a cute porcelin doll face that clearly looks even cuter when she's angry (which judging by her skill, probably happens often). I reckon her mitts and chef's hat are permanent accessories, no? ^___^
Well, the Kitchen Computer was made in 1969. So Unix-sama could be the one she's trying to unload the cake on. I mean, I nearly included GECOS-san in that comic :P
QuoteShe transcends the cuteness threshold, into the forbidden realm of hotness. @v@
Congratulations, you've succeeded in making a Kino-type character look, not only very very very very beautiful and stylish,.... but also,... more importantly,... NOT SHORT!!! ;^0^;
(although episode 4 sorta/kinda explains why Kino's stunted)
Awww...but...I wanted her to be just a bit on the short side ^////^
As least compared to CTSS and Multics-sama, who would have been quite tall I imagine (high 5' range)
QuoteAnd the bike is definitely of a much older era (and I imagine the gun is too).
Yes, I was going for a more old western look for ITS-tan. Both to complement the designs for the other 60s OS-tans (which have all been drawn in 1700s/1800s era clothing).
Still trying to drive this home a bit more with WAITS-tan, though...
QuoteHA! I stole Bella-san's birthday present: LOTS O' SNOW! MAW HAW HAW HAW. -w-
Nooooooo! Drop my snow, Nejin!
QuoteJk, jk! ^-^; Also my chemistry teacher said just that to me today - and I realized that it's damn good that we're not thinking in terms of Mitosis when we think of our age, since that'd probably drive us all insane with collective age-noia. Naw, lass - stay where ya are and be happy that you now are allowed to get yourself batshit drunk. In Canada. Or Europe. But not where you are right now. Er. Now i lost myself >v>;
Oh man, even if I could legally go out and get smashed I wouldn't. I just don't see the point of it.
That said, it is always fun to watch drunken people act like idiots.
QuoteI, on the other hand, feel old thinking about stuff that happened before year 2000 - just imagine how it would feel for me to go about the stuff you're doing XD
*stays away from the mainframes for his own good*
Me too! I feel old remembering how incredible Windows 98 seemed to me when we got our first PC...
QuoteHey everyone, I told you I'd start posting more didn't I?
Now to review---Hubba WHA? It's your birthday?
Well then. Happy Birthday Bella-san. On such short notice I didn't have enough time to get a cake. My appologies...I'm so unprepared...-_-
I may not have a cake but I do have this. *holds out a candle lit by blue foxfire*
Now make a wish and blow it out, hurry before I end up catching fire. Heh..
Woohoo! My Inu-T trap must have worked! :P
As for my birthday...just don't let Fchan-tan give me any presents XD
QuoteWAITS-Tan
Nice, She's beautiful. Like C-chan already said The 60's style dress looks really authentic. The 70's style WAITS does too.
[thinking]Must resist the urge to Disco dance.
Great Job Bella!
*peeks over the working WAITS-tan's shoulder*
Ooooh Whatcha doin?
*Techno can be seen flying through the air backwards several seconds later*'
Thanks! But....
*bawls*
*Noooooo! But I want her dress to look 25% more 1800s-ish!*
QuoteWoah, she really did make a Honeywell kitchen computer-tan.
(Personally the actual HKC itself was a bit too bulky and expensive for my tastes, plus I don't recall ever seeing any being sold.)
But the -tan, She looks simply adorable.
The question is...Do I want her making food for me?
(Wait...Didn't I just mention bad cooking a second ago? *hears X-Files music*)
I love her outfit. But now whenever I see cooking mits I think of the kind Buu from DBZ/GT.
Hmmmm....maybe her and ME-chan are in a cooking club together?
And that X-Files music is still playing!?
*SOMEBODY TURN THE DARNED MUSIC OFF!!!!*
QuoteLOL, that Multics-sama comic. You've made me smile.
I'm glad to hear :D
QuoteITS-Tan looks cute and tomboyish.
Why does the phrase "Gunslinger Girl" come to mind when I look at her?
Heehee...
Perhaps slightly less....deadly....though... :P
Quote*stares at C-chan while the X-files theme plays*
*searches thread for source of creepy music*
*finds a radio*
AHHHHHHA!
*throws radio out of thread*
QuoteI promise updated versions of those pics I drew earlier soon, just one little thing.........
..................How do I convert Imported pictures into an editable vector version? -_-;;
QuoteWould I and Bella-san do, therefore, is to simply retrace the lines from whatever art we're scanning. Not unlike how you would ink over a pencil-drawn illustration. ^____^
Yeah, just trace it using the pen tool. I wouldn't recommend trying to use the freehand pencil tool, cause that's too difficult. The key is practice....
QuoteSpeaking of which, you're cordially invited to join the FOSA team as well. We could use someone of your creativity. ^__^
*leads Inu-T into FOSA thread*
*heehehheee...*
Added after 2 hours 18 minutes: *shuffles in*
I just thought of the perfect description for WAITS-tan: Bohemian! Started in the 19th century, this was sort of a precursor of the Hippie culture...
*shuffles out*
Haalp! My computer is getting slower and slower on the internet everyday.
Probably because I'm running around without an Antivirus. >.<*bonks self on head*
Well, since my subscription to Mcafee ended a little while ago I bought a new version of it called "Internet Security Suite". I installed it on most of my computers, but when I try to install it on my desktop in my bedroom (the HP pavilion 7960) it says "Your computer doesn't have enough memory to run this application." ;015
Avast! Avast! *Runs off to google to get a free Antivirus*
Now back on topic, I just recognised...
*Looks left*
*Looks right*
[whispers] I could just as easily make that "Bred like rabbits" comment on NT-sama as well.
Oh lord I hope she didn't hear me say that.
Quote from: "Bella"Quote from: "C-chan"Would I and Bella-san do, therefore, is to simply retrace the lines from whatever art we're scanning. Not unlike how you would ink over a pencil-drawn illustration. ^____^
Yeah, just trace it using the pen tool. I wouldn't recommend trying to use the freehand pencil tool, cause that's too difficult. The key is practice....
Oh Cool, Thanks ^_^
Quote from: "C-chan"Speaking of which, you're cordially invited to join the FOSA team as well. We could use someone of your creativity. ^__^
*Sparkly eyes*
I'm invited to join the FOSA? Eeee
I've been watching that thread for a few days now, and it's looking really appealing to me, of course I'll join. ^_^
*Runs off in that direction*
Quote from: "Bella"Tell me about it! I wish all OSs would write their own "autobiography" XD
*Thinks about possible Multics autobiography...*
*Hello, I'm Multics. You may not know me, but surly you've ripped me off to some extent, you ingrates...*
Hmmm, Win---dows---Inn---Tee
Certainly would be interesting..
Oooh,... much fun and frivolity to respond to here.
BRB! ^v^
[="be right back"]
QuoteHaalp! My computer is getting slower and slower on the internet everyday.
Probably because I'm running around without an Antivirus. >.<*bonks self on head*
Well, since my subscription to Mcafee ended a little while ago I bought a new version of it called "Internet Security Suite". I installed it on most of my computers, but when I try to install it on my desktop in my bedroom (the HP pavilion 7960) it says "Your computer doesn't have enough memory to run this application."
Avast! Avast! *Runs off to google to get a free Antivirus*
Here you go:
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/
This is the best free antivirus IMHO...It doesn't slow down performance too much, I remember Trend used to make my other computer as slow as molasses in January....
QuoteNow back on topic, I just recognised...
*Looks left*
*Looks right*
[whispers] I could just as easily make that "Bred like rabbits" comment on NT-sama as well.
Oh lord I hope she didn't hear me say that.
PHEAR THE WRATH OF PO'd NT-SAMAAAAAAA!!!
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/os-tans/Windows%20NT/normal_1090603728156.jpg)
Though, no, I have to say the Rabbit award still goes to the *nixes...
*looks over shoulder*
*phew!*
QuoteOh Cool, Thanks
If you have any questions on tracing, feel free to ask!
QuoteOooh,... much fun and frivolity to respond to here.
BRB! ^v^
[="be right back"]
*thinks up way to lure C-Chan to thread*
*Oh, PCLOS-sama!*
*zips back in and latches on to whatever closest thing resembles a woman*
*rub rub* PCLOS-SAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAMA!!!!! ^V^
*swoons with joy*
Added after 14 hours 3 minutes: QuoteSorry...my reasoning: anything past the 20th is the end of the month
BAH! ^0^
You did that on purpose so you could BASK and REVEL in my shame. ;^~^;
How
Mazoku-like.... Bella-sama,.... you're too cruel.... ;^^;
QuoteMmmmmmmmm....shame cake.....
AHA! PROOF! ;^0^;
Quote*Hello, I'm Multics. You may not know me, but surly you've ripped me off to some extent, you ingrates...*
In that case, don't get me started on the kind of bipolar, schizophrenic, psychotic, Electra Complex-laden mess VMS-sama might write. ^^;
QuoteI tried to make her look like a cross between sorta a 1960s and Victorian styles...I think I made her look more 60s-ish, though...
Just a bit, but no prob. ^___^
QuoteThe ovals have no real meaning, and that's my poor idea of paisley on the dress to the left.
Amount of C-chan Familiarity with Fashion Concepts = 0.02%
In other words....
...? '___'
QuoteAwww, it was still the early days. Her makers never would have let her have teal hair :P
Oh, alright....
*crosses arms and pouts* ^-^
QuoteWell, the Kitchen Computer was made in 1969. So Unix-sama could be the one she's trying to unload the cake on. I mean, I nearly included GECOS-san in that comic :P
Fufu! ^.^
Speaking of which, are you planning on coloring these any time soon?
I'm still looking for potential FOSA launch material, and just like how I have a lot of unfinished vector sketches, maybe you could consider 'saucing' some of your black n white gems? ^___^
QuoteAwww...but...I wanted her to be just a bit on the short side ^////^
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*smirks*
*starts polishing aluminum bat*
....How short? ¯__¯
QuoteAs least compared to CTSS and Multics-sama, who would have been quite tall I imagine (high 5' range)
Ahh, that's better. ^__^
*puts bat away*
In fairness, UNIX-sama is pretty short herself, so all joking aside, it wouldn't have been a problem for ITS-san to be roughly around that height as well (I figure a clean 5' would01 work out for the Goddess).
*sigh* It's amazing that back in THOSE days, upper 5' would've been considered gangly and tall. How oh so backward and uncivilized.... thank goodness for progress and high-calorie nutrition. ^___^
*searches number for Barbie Linux-tan*
QuoteYes, I was going for a more old western look for ITS-tan. Both to complement the designs for the other 60s OS-tans (which have all been drawn in 1700s/1800s era clothing).
Fuuu.... I actually didn't realize it was an 'Old West' style dress (more like a stylized coat). bit given the age and the antiquity of her gun AND the nature of her participation in the more "lawless" aspects of computer society at the time.... yeah, it makes perfect sense. ^___^
And if she's still around, by all means PCLOS-sama's got a rootin-tootin friend, no? ^.^
Yeehaw! and stuff! ^___^
*starts looking up directions for PCLOS-sama's Gnu ranch too*
QuoteThanks! But....
*bawls*
*Noooooo! But I want her dress to look 25% more 1800s-ish!*
And unfortunately, she also has to remain American 1800s-ish due to her upbringing.
*sigh* And here I was about to recommend a more Canadian Old West look. -v-
That would've spiced things up a bit. ^.^
Quote*searches thread for source of creepy music*
*finds a radio*
AHHHHHHA!
*throws radio out of thread*
*finds radio on floor*
*blink blink* '__'
*fixes it*
*gets creeped out by X-Files music*
Needs more Anime. T__T
*and starts changing dial*
...
*captures station playing 'Catch You Catch Me'*
YEAH!!!! TIME TO ROCK!!! ^V^
*starts getting down and dirty with pretty, frilly, pink-inspired music* ^___^
*PUMPS UP VOLUME*
QuoteI just thought of the perfect description for WAITS-tan: Bohemian! Started in the 19th century, this was sort of a precursor of the Hippie culture...
Ooh! ^.^
There's plenty of inspiration for that.... ^___^
Good thinkin'. ^v^
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/20/Renoir_LiseBohemian.jpg/417px-Renoir_LiseBohemian.jpg)
Quote from: "Bella"PHEAR THE WRATH OF PO'd NT-SAMAAAAAAA!!!
O.O OH SNAP!!
Quote from: "C-chan"For such an obscure system, I really would like to pass her as a gal who (like Haruhi) is deceptively "one-of-a-kind". ^___^
Hmmm.
Haruhi-ish girl. +Check
Kyon-ish boy *looks over at toshiaki* +Check
Aliens *Glances at Plan-9-tan* +Check
Time travelers *Looks at Leopard-chan* +Check
Espers ....*looks around* do we have any espers here?
We're just one factor short of our own "Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya".
Ohohoho
In other news, look what I found on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfdnFOiXUU
Heheheheh ^__^
QuoteHmmm.
Haruhi-ish girl. +Check
Kyon-ish boy *looks over at toshiaki* +Check
Aliens *Glances at Plan-9-tan* +Check
Time travelers *Looks at Leopard-chan* +Check
Espers ....*looks around* do we have any espers here?
We're just one factor short of our own "Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya".
Ohohoho
Careful, my boy. You're on my watch here. I'm the one the empress sent here, and I will make sure her glory is not...stepped on.
...
......
>:3
RAWR
Added after 59 seconds: Oh and about espers just look a bit around the *nices...they should be a good source for it, I think?
QuoteIn that case, don't get me started on the kind of bipolar, schizophrenic, psychotic, Electra Complex-laden mess VMS-sama might write. ^^;
Oh come on now, schizo VMS-sama may seem to us now, I'm still sure she's just a sweet, gentle personality, with those she trusts. Although she is paranoid about self-defense, any other personality quirks are probably quite normal for someone subjected to her....strange circumstances...
As for that Electra Complex, I could have misunderstood that...but I don't think I did :P
QuoteAmount of C-chan Familiarity with Fashion Concepts = 0.02%
In other words....
...? '___'
This is paisley:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Paisley.JPG)
A pretty common pattern in 60s/70s clothing...
QuoteSpeaking of which, are you planning on coloring these any time soon?
I'm still looking for potential FOSA launch material, and just like how I have a lot of unfinished vector sketches, maybe you could consider 'saucing' some of your black n white gems? ^___^
Hey, as my sketches go, I'll sauce whatever the public wants sauced! I'd probably never get around to coloring a lot of these anyhow...
There may be a couple that I have set plans for, but the better part of my sketches are fair game.
QuoteIn fairness, UNIX-sama is pretty short herself, so all joking aside, it wouldn't have been a problem for ITS-san to be roughly around that height as well (I figure a clean 5' would01 work out for the Goddess).
*sigh* It's amazing that back in THOSE days, upper 5' would've been considered gangly and tall. How oh so backward and uncivilized.... thank goodness for progress and high-calorie nutrition. ^___^
I always thought Unix-sama would be a bit short too, but I wasn't gonna be the one to say it :P
*Thinks*
Oh wow, I have, like, a half-a-foot on the Goddess! Hehehee....how's the weather down there?
*gets hit in head with
The Art Of Unix Programming*
I guess hight has nothing to do with book-throwing ability...
QuoteFuuu.... I actually didn't realize it was an 'Old West' style dress (more like a stylized coat). bit given the age and the antiquity of her gun AND the nature of her participation in the more "lawless" aspects of computer society at the time.... yeah, it makes perfect sense. ^___^
And if she's still around, by all means PCLOS-sama's got a rootin-tootin friend, no? ^.^
Yeehaw! and stuff! ^___^
*starts looking up directions for PCLOS-sama's Gnu ranch too*
LOL....
And I've never ever draw a Pioneer or Mustang Linux-tan. Then you'd see a good ol' western hoedown!
QuoteOoh! ^.^
There's plenty of inspiration for that.... ^___^
Good thinkin'. ^v^
I saw that pic too! That's what kinda inspired me...
Bohemian fits her personality well, huh? She would have been looked down on quite a bit by the much more conservative -tans of the day, I imagine...not that this would have bothered her a bit ;)
QuoteHmmm.
Haruhi-ish girl. +Check
Kyon-ish boy *looks over at toshiaki* +Check
Aliens *Glances at Plan-9-tan* +Check
Time travelers *Looks at Leopard-chan* +Check
Espers ....*looks around* do we have any espers here?
We're just one factor short of our own "Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya".
Ohohoho
QuoteOh and about espers just look a bit around the *nices...they should be a good source for it, I think?
Agreeing with Nejin...the Unix family has some fine superpowers, I believe...
*contemplates doing a OS-tan/Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya parody pic....*
@____@
QuoteIn other news, look what I found on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfdnFOiXUU
Heheheheh ^__^
Nice find!
Hmmm....I never associated Bell Labs with Lucent Technologies...odd, I have a relative who works for them (or used to...I'm unsure)...
As for the video, I found something along that vein today, as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waTL1abCm9I
First part is kinda creepy. I thought it was like that video from
the Ring and I was going to get a phone call saying I only had a week to live or something XD
Speaking of which, does anyone have any ideas for what Inferno-chan might wear? I'm kinda/sorta maybe doing a drawing of her, I'll never tell.
And has anyone ever thought of a concept for a Plan B-tan? I mean, even Wikipedia doesn't have any articles on this OS....
*raises hoof on Plan B-tan* ^___^
But I'll provide details later,... right now, I'm tied up with stuff. ^^;
Not really terribly original, though, since I thought of her only as a no-nonsense Plan 9-tan clone and official notetaker/caterer of 9-sama's ego.
Added after 1 minutes: QuoteOh wow, I have, like, a half-a-foot on the Goddess! Hehehee....how's the weather down there?
Oh, so that'd make you about XP-tan's height. TvT
Or about 5 feet on a certain pig. -v-;
I have a few ideas for Plan B-tan but I am kinda stuck too -_-
I've halfway thought of a design for her. Could I post up my preconcept renditions later?
QuoteEspers ....*looks around* do we have any espers here?
Like Nejin-san said,... besides, like, half the *Nix-tans? ^___^'
*ponders*
AROS-chan. ^.^
QuoteIn other news, look what I found on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfdnFOiXUU
Heheheheh ^__^
Ahhh! So no wonder I haven't heard of Bell Labs in a long time. ^^
QuoteThis is paisley:
A pretty common pattern in 60s/70s clothing... [/quote
Mmmmm...... well,..... at least you have Pattern Fills and Pattern Along Path to help you out with those. ^.^;
QuoteHey, as my sketches go, I'll sauce whatever the public wants sauced! I'd probably never get around to coloring a lot of these anyhow...
There may be a couple that I have set plans for, but the better part of my sketches are fair game.
I have dibs on Xenix-sama. ^.^
It's still my ambition to have an old-fashioned portraiture done of the old 1980's M$-IBM family. ^__^
QuoteI always thought Unix-sama would be a bit short too, but I wasn't gonna be the one to say it :P
Regrettably, had to do it that way for story purposes.... ¬¬
....
Oh, and plus the Claes influence on her design.... ¬v¬
QuoteLOL....
And I've never ever draw a Pioneer or Mustang Linux-tan. Then you'd see a good ol' western hoedown!
Oh that's right! There's still Pioneer out there! @v@
Kewl! That means you COULD do an Old West-style illustration, and not have it be part of some cheesy Japanese Anime stereotype. ^_____^;
QuoteBohemian fits her personality well, huh? She would have been looked down on quite a bit by the much more conservative -tans of the day, I imagine...not that this would have bothered her a bit
Plus she fits as a Binteji Renmei member like a charm. ^____^
Not that she'd stick around much, given she's always on the move. But I can more than guarantee she wouldn't be looked down upon anymore. ^.^
For a hot ol' gal like her, who'd have the nerve in my presence? `v'
*brands out aluminum baseball bat again*
Her concept reminds me a little of my preconcept for TripOS-tan (aka, Mama Amiga). Maybe they can be friends (like a traveling pair of road hogs)? ^^
QuoteAgreeing with Nejin...the Unix family has some fine superpowers, I believe...
*contemplates doing a OS-tan/Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya parody pic....*
@____@
I knew that was inevitable at some point. ^^;
QuoteAs for the video, I found something along that vein today, as well:
Whoops... can't see it from my present location. ^^;
QuoteSpeaking of which, does anyone have any ideas for what Inferno-chan might wear? I'm kinda/sorta maybe doing a drawing of her, I'll never tell.
Anything that's fireproof. ^v^
Fufu... sorry, still thinking of the young Inferno-chan. ^___^
Lesse.... Teenage Plan 9-tan.... Teenage Plan 9-tan....
*ponders*
She's no Bohemian, but she's no aristocrat either. Given her position (Plan 9-sama's successor) AND insanely-strong power, she'has to be dressed to intimidate, but also be unusually pragmatic about it.
QuoteI have a few ideas for Plan B-tan but I am kinda stuck too -_-
I've halfway thought of a design for her. Could I post up my preconcept renditions later?
Yeah sure, we'd love to see it. ^^
QuoteBut I'll provide details later,... right now, I'm tied up with stuff. ^^;
Not really terribly original, though, since I thought of her only as a no-nonsense Plan 9-tan clone and official notetaker/caterer of 9-sama's ego.
*Thinks of Mr. Smithers*
O_________O
QuoteI have a few ideas for Plan B-tan but I am kinda stuck too -_-
I've halfway thought of a design for her. Could I post up my preconcept renditions later?
For sure!
I'm completely lost, as I can't find a shred of info on it...
QuoteAROS-chan. ^.^
AROS-chan, I forgot about her powers....
QuoteI have dibs on Xenix-sama. ^.^
It's still my ambition to have an old-fashioned portraiture done of the old 1980's M$-IBM family. ^__^
We demand our IB-$oft group pic! :D
(And how'dya like the nickname I made for them?)
QuoteRegrettably, had to do it that way for story purposes.... ¬¬
....
Oh, and plus the Claes influence on her design.... ¬v¬
Character and story influence aside, it'd fit her perfectly! After all, Bell Labs Unix is famous for being so small...Or infamous, if you talk to some people (who enjoy pointing this out at it's most Virus-like feature XD)
Although, I do recall hearing RT-11 could give Unix a run for its money size-wise, so an RT11-tan would regrettably be quite short as well...
QuoteKewl! That means you COULD do an Old West-style illustration, and not have it be part of some cheesy Japanese Anime stereotype. ^_____^;
*Ponders*
Japanese...anime...stereotype...?
*thinks about "Big Shots" segment on Cowboy Bebop*
*Oh, I seeeeee....*
QuotePlus she fits as a Binteji Renmei member like a charm. ^____^
Not that she'd stick around much, given she's always on the move. But I can more than guarantee she wouldn't be looked down upon anymore. ^.^
For a hot ol' gal like her, who'd have the nerve in my presence? `v'
*brands out aluminum baseball bat again*
Her concept reminds me a little of my preconcept for TripOS-tan (aka, Mama Amiga). Maybe they can be friends (like a traveling pair of road hogs)? ^^
Oh, you think she'd still be around? I hadn't really thought about it, but I guess you can't kill off someone of her energy :P
Hmmm...TripOS-tan? I'm intrigued...
QuoteI knew that was inevitable at some point. ^^;
*puts Haruhi/OS-tan parody pic on list of drawings I must complete someday, behind my blasphemous Cosplay pic and Puma-chan with automatic weapon pic...*
QuoteWhoops... can't see it from my present location. ^^;
Consider that a good thing O___o
Though it is quite neat to see one of the earliest GUIs in action...
QuoteAnything that's fireproof. ^v^
Fufu... sorry, still thinking of the young Inferno-chan. ^___^
Lesse.... Teenage Plan 9-tan.... Teenage Plan 9-tan....
*ponders*
She's no Bohemian, but she's no aristocrat either. Given her position (Plan 9-sama's successor) AND insanely-strong power, she'has to be dressed to intimidate, but also be unusually pragmatic about it.
Well....I'm maybe possibly drawing a Plan 9 and Inferno-chan group pic.
And, BTW, I've decided to draw Inferno-chan as on the youngish side...And I'll be depicting Plan 9-sama as a bit more...youthful...I can't say more than this, though ^_^
But, you know, I think I've finally figured out Plan 9-san's attitude enough to draw a good representation of her. Let us look at some non-technical facts about Plan 9:
-Is considered by some to be "more Unix than Unix", that is to say, some concepts developed in early Unix are implemented even better in Plan 9. That said, it is also quite different.
-for it's age and history, it's relatively immature.
-As I believe Kami-Tux has pointed out before, Plan 9 is bemoaned for having a less-than-good (graphical) interface.
-Plan 9 has found barely any commercial appeal; many claim this is due to not being good enough to displace Unix, and not being marketed as well as it should be.
-I recall hearing Plan 9 supporters say their OS isn't as difficult to work with as some say; Although, I have no idea if this is true or just fanboy talk :P
Despite her somewhat macabre hobby of necromancing, somehow I now see Plan 9 as a much more innocent, some may say even naive, character than before. Sure, she wants the power and fame that her mother possesses, but when you get down to the basics of it, she's not willing to gain it though brutality.
Perhaps this is what so horrified her about the Unix Wars and caused her to rebel against her family; while she wants to be like her Unix-sama (and has even *gasp* mastered some fields that eluded the Goddess), I don't think she possesses the austerity of her mother or sisters, whom believe Plan 9-tan is just being childish when it comes to these matters.
She's a skillful Open Sourceress, and I suppose she uses her powers for the rather strange pastime of necromancing.
While being quite intimidating outwardly, she's not as difficult to get along with once you get to know her. That being said, she's still makes for a awkward and strange acquaintance, sometimes to a woeful level.
Plan B-tan preconcept:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_planBpreconcept.jpg)
I've only halfway thought it through because I'm not sure what her hair color should be, I was thinking purple (match color of fins on the Plan B mascot) or white (like Plan 9-tan's). Her hairstyle is similar to Plan 9-tan's but spikier and wilder.
I actually have no idea what to do for the outfit but I for sure want to keep the large, purple, fin-like sleeves.
She also has dark grey eyes, wears black eyeshadow and has perpetually droopy eyes.
Personality-wise, I'm also not entirely sure. But I think she would see Plan 9-tan as her idol or at least be her part-time assistant. Also would she be Plan 9-tan's daughter or younger sister?
some info on Plan B: http://lsub.org/ls/planb.html
QuoteLOL....
And I've never ever draw a Pioneer or Mustang Linux-tan. Then you'd see a good ol' western hoedown!
ADIOS's logo looks like it could fit into the Western theme, also. I haven't done much of a study of it, beyond that, but I thought I'd throw the idea in the ring.
Awesome preconcept of Plan-B-tan, Aurora! My vote for hair is white with purple bangs or tips. I have no explanation for this, other than that it looks cool...and that such dark eyeshadow seems to denote some sort of deviance.
Also, I would like to hear the story of XINU. ^__^
QuoteAROS-chan, I forgot about her powers....
And I still need to draw the little munchkin. ^.^
QuoteWe demand our IB-$oft group pic!
(And how'dya like the nickname I made for them?)
Great as usual. Now then. ^.^
*tosses pic in bottomless pit known as the "Queue"*
QuoteAlthough, I do recall hearing RT-11 could give Unix a run for its money size-wise, so an RT11-tan would regrettably be quite short as well...
GAHHHH!!!! It's like I could toss a rock into a small crowd and it could hit like 20 or 30 short woman at once. T___T
I needz salvation! ^0^
*dials up z/OS-sama*
QuoteOh, you think she'd still be around? I hadn't really thought about it, but I guess you can't kill off someone of her energy :P
Well as it says in the wiki:
Although not used much after 1982 or so, ITS was run at MIT until 1990, and then until 1995 at the Stacken Computer Club in Sweden. A few instances are still running today for historical interest, almost all on simulated PDP-10's.Fufu... plus I'm sure bits and pieces of source code are still strewn about. Either way, the girl loves, but is now a slightly-more-laid back vintage-tan (even though, like PilotOS-tan, she still enjoys the thrill of traveling). ^__^
In my preconcepts, I had UNIX-sama be a very close ally to the Binteji Renmei. Originally it was out of sympathy to Amiga-tan (and some unconscious search for redemption), but the fact that they take care of ITS-san too certainly adds a different dimension to that. Without MULTICS-sama or CTSS-sama, ITS-san is the only thing resembling a relative for UNIX-sama, no? 'v'
QuoteHmmm...TripOS-tan? I'm intrigued...
TripOS-tan is a chronic traveler, and still remains so to this day. This, plus a deal cut with Commodore back in the 80's, essentially made her miss out entirely on Amiga-tan's youth. Only in recent years have they met, and only Amiga-tan's overly friendly and loving nature allows her to be viewed as anything other than a mere stranger. The lack of a mother figure certainly has caused Amiga-san to be a little,.... lax,... with her own children, but fortunately [thanks to open sourcery] MOS-chan and AROS-chan are at least a little more resourceful.
Can't really shape much of a personality with so little documentation lying around. For now, I can say TripOS-san has a thing for triples, and usually fusses when things come in singles, pairs, or in sets of 4, 5, etc. She even travels on a motorTRIKE, which is very handy but is an antique that is no longer made by anyone.
Don't have many ideas for her physical appearance, although Eclair-style hair is kinda mandatory.... ^^
(http://hmkino.ld.infoseek.co.jp/kiddy_grade02.jpg)
See the resemblance? ^___^
Quote*puts Haruhi/OS-tan parody pic on list of drawings I must complete someday, behind my blasphemous Cosplay pic and Puma-chan with automatic weapon pic...*
Forget Haruhism!
I want my PUism!!!!
Ph34r the PEERLESS POWER OF PU!!!!!!!!!!!! ^0^
QuoteAnd, BTW, I've decided to draw Inferno-chan as on the youngish side...And I'll be depicting Plan 9-sama as a bit more...youthful...I can't say more than this, though
Woohoo!!! The fun years of the UserSpace Gang! ^v^
*basks in glory of laughter, foiled plans, mechanical failures on the U.S.S. Glenda, and empty HeadCrab launch canisters*
QuoteBut, you know, I think I've finally figured out Plan 9-san's attitude enough to draw a good representation of her. Let us look at some non-technical facts about Plan 9:
-Is considered by some to be "more Unix than Unix", that is to say, some concepts developed in early Unix are implemented even better in Plan 9. That said, it is also quite different.
-for it's age and history, it's relatively immature.
-As I believe Kami-Tux has pointed out before, Plan 9 is bemoaned for having a less-than-good (graphical) interface.
-Plan 9 has found barely any commercial appeal; many claim this is due to not being good enough to displace Unix, and not being marketed as well as it should be.
-I recall hearing Plan 9 supporters say their OS isn't as difficult to work with as some say; Although, I have no idea if this is true or just fanboy talk :P
Despite her somewhat macabre hobby of necromancing, somehow I now see Plan 9 as a much more innocent, some may say even naive, character than before. Sure, she wants the power and fame that her mother possesses, but when you get down to the basics of it, she's not willing to gain it though brutality.
Perhaps this is what so horrified her about the Unix Wars and caused her to rebel against her family; while she wants to be like her Unix-sama (and has even *gasp* mastered some fields that eluded the Goddess), I don't think she possesses the austerity of her mother or sisters, whom believe Plan 9-tan is just being childish when it comes to these matters.
She's a skillful Open Sourceress, and I suppose she uses her powers for the rather strange pastime of necromancing.
While being quite intimidating outwardly, she's not as difficult to get along with once you get to know her. That being said, she's still makes for a awkward and strange acquaintance, sometimes to a woeful level.
SOMEONE GIVE THIS GIRL A MEDAL!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
(http://www.centurynovelty.com/catImages/209-069_large.jpg)
CONGRATULATIONS, BELLA-SAMA!!!! You've nailed Plan 9-tan's personality so perfectly, it's practically deserves its own Oscar nomination!!! ^v^
*sniff*
You never fail to impress me in how perfectly well you interpret AND enhance these stories! ^v^
Indeed, despite her flaws then and now, Plan 9-tan could almost be considered one of the most sensible of all the UNIX-tans, and she was the only one who really had the courage to rebuke her mother over the UNIX wars, as well as put her words into action. Given that sly and bellicose UNIX-tans are a dime a dozen, it's no wonder that the free-minded BSD-tans hang around her instead of their more proprietary sisters. She's like a wily yet lovable boss character to them. And her daughter (despite her potentially destructive power) is about as belligerent as ME-tan is stable, and so offers something which they can protect with all their might. ^.^
I agree, I don't think I've given much justice to the UserSpace Gang. There's just so much that can be done with them! ^v^
QuotePlan B-tan preconcept:
I've only halfway thought it through because I'm not sure what her hair color should be, I was thinking purple (match color of fins on the Plan B mascot) or white (like Plan 9-tan's). Her hairstyle is similar to Plan 9-tan's but spikier and wilder.
I actually have no idea what to do for the outfit but I for sure want to keep the large, purple, fin-like sleeves.
She also has dark grey eyes, wears black eyeshadow and has perpetually droopy eyes.
Personality-wise, I'm also not entirely sure. But I think she would see Plan 9-tan as her idol or at least be her part-time assistant. Also would she be Plan 9-tan's daughter or younger sister?
Gyaaah! Except for the some of the colors (which I never thought out originally), she's close in appearance to my preconcept! Very cute!!! ^v^
She would have a fairly low-key appearance with a slight overall resemblance to Plan 9-tan. Fish motifs I hadn't though of, so that's a nice touch! ^___^
I didn't think of her as a daughter of Plan 9-tan per se. Either she was a younger sister, or a clone that Plan 9-tan created to help her manage the new [so-called] Empire. Either way, she sticks close to Plan 9-tan and would have a habit of writing down everything Plan 9-tan says (even the embarrassing stuff).
Based on the mascot's eyes, I thought of her as being eternally non-chalant, kinda like this character from DearS:
(http://robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/meganekko/izumi_neneko-1.jpg)
But seeing that cute glomp in Aurora-hime's sketch.... just BEGS me to reconsider!! ^V^
(lovin the bunny ears, btw!) ^.^
QuoteAwesome preconcept of Plan-B-tan, Aurora! My vote for hair is white with purple bangs or tips. I have no explanation for this, other than that it looks cool...and that such dark eyeshadow seems to denote some sort of deviance.
Well white hair is Plan 9-tan's color, so that'd be an interesting way of showing the relation (either as sister or clone). And yeah it looks cool. ^.^
The eyeshadow would have to be done in such a way so that it truthfully doesn't look deviant (or sleep-deprived). ^____^'
Might also concur that we skip it.
QuoteAlso, I would like to hear the story of XINU. ^__^
Oh, that's easy! ^v^
Llew ti od, gniht eno od.
Dne eht!Praised be the Goddess amas-XINU!!!!!!!! ^V^
QuoteOh, that's easy! ^v^
Llew ti od, gniht eno od.
Dne eht!
Praised be the Goddess amas-XINU!!!!!!!! ^V^
Yay!
*claps*
QuotePlan B-tan preconcept:
I've only halfway thought it through because I'm not sure what her hair color should be, I was thinking purple (match color of fins on the Plan B mascot) or white (like Plan 9-tan's). Her hairstyle is similar to Plan 9-tan's but spikier and wilder.
I actually have no idea what to do for the outfit but I for sure want to keep the large, purple, fin-like sleeves.
She also has dark grey eyes, wears black eyeshadow and has perpetually droopy eyes.
Personality-wise, I'm also not entirely sure. But I think she would see Plan 9-tan as her idol or at least be her part-time assistant. Also would she be Plan 9-tan's daughter or younger sister?
Nice job! I really like how you worked in the references to PlanB's logo...
Moreover, can't believe you found info on PlanB! I couldn't find anything...I must suck at teh internets XD
QuoteGAHHHH!!!! It's like I could toss a rock into a small crowd and it could hit like 20 or 30 short woman at once. T___T
I needz salvation! ^0^
*dials up z/OS-sama*
*sets C-Chan up with VMS-sama*
C'mon, buddy, she's a good 5' 10, 11'!
QuoteAlthough not used much after 1982 or so, ITS was run at MIT until 1990, and then until 1995 at the Stacken Computer Club in Sweden. A few instances are still running today for historical interest, almost all on simulated PDP-10's.
Fufu... plus I'm sure bits and pieces of source code are still strewn about. Either way, the girl loves, but is now a slightly-more-laid back vintage-tan (even though, like PilotOS-tan, she still enjoys the thrill of traveling). ^__^
Excuse me, I thought we were talking about WAITS-tan. Yeah, I know ITS-tan is still around...
QuoteIn my preconcepts, I had UNIX-sama be a very close ally to the Binteji Renmei. Originally it was out of sympathy to Amiga-tan (and some unconscious search for redemption), but the fact that they take care of ITS-san too certainly adds a different dimension to that. Without MULTICS-sama or CTSS-sama, ITS-san is the only thing resembling a relative for UNIX-sama, no? 'v'
Hmmm...I thought I remembered reading that Unix-sama helped fund the Binteji Renmei....it seemed odd at the time, but after learning about her past, I now think I know why -___-
And yes, ITS-tan would be....an aunt to her, I believe :P
QuoteTripOS-tan is a chronic traveler, and still remains so to this day. This, plus a deal cut with Commodore back in the 80's, essentially made her miss out entirely on Amiga-tan's youth. Only in recent years have they met, and only Amiga-tan's overly friendly and loving nature allows her to be viewed as anything other than a mere stranger. The lack of a mother figure certainly has caused Amiga-san to be a little,.... lax,... with her own children, but fortunately [thanks to open sourcery] MOS-chan and AROS-chan are at least a little more resourceful.
Can't really shape much of a personality with so little documentation lying around. For now, I can say TripOS-san has a thing for triples, and usually fusses when things come in singles, pairs, or in sets of 4, 5, etc. She even travels on a motorTRIKE, which is very handy but is an antique that is no longer made by anyone.
Don't have many ideas for her physical appearance, although Eclair-style hair is kinda mandatory.... ^^
Ooooh, she sounds interesting!
And yeah, I do see just a bit of resemblance ;)
QuoteSOMEONE GIVE THIS GIRL A MEDAL!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
*teary eyed*
*I can't believe I'm receiving this honor!*
And I'd put that medal on if I wasn't still a ghost T__T
QuoteCONGRATULATIONS, BELLA-SAMA!!!! You've nailed Plan 9-tan's personality so perfectly, it's practically deserves its own Oscar nomination!!! ^v^
Ah, how I love these moments when I finally, figure out a character. Like when VMS-sama went from crazywoman to the mis-understood motherly type, or when Multics-sama went from preening egomaniac to fragile personality practically being buried by her own ambition and the ambition of those around her...
QuoteYou never fail to impress me in how perfectly well you interpret AND enhance these stories! ^v^
Indeed, despite her flaws then and now, Plan 9-tan could almost be considered one of the most sensible of all the UNIX-tans, and she was the only one who really had the courage to rebuke her mother over the UNIX wars, as well as put her words into action. Given that sly and bellicose UNIX-tans are a dime a dozen, it's no wonder that the free-minded BSD-tans hang around her instead of their more proprietary sisters. She's like a wily yet lovable boss character to them. And her daughter (despite her potentially destructive power) is about as belligerent as ME-tan is stable, and so offers something which they can protect with all their might. ^.^
I'm still trying to figure out how on earth Linux-sama and Minix-sensei fell in with them o__O
But yes, I now think that Plan 9-san, while being perhaps the most like Unix-sama from a "genetic" POV, is actually the least like her in mindset.
QuoteGyaaah! Except for the some of the colors (which I never thought out originally), she's close in appearance to my preconcept! Very cute!!! ^v^
She would have a fairly low-key appearance with a slight overall resemblance to Plan 9-tan. Fish motifs I hadn't though of, so that's a nice touch! ^___^
I didn't think of her as a daughter of Plan 9-tan per se. Either she was a younger sister, or a clone that Plan 9-tan created to help her manage the new [so-called] Empire. Either way, she sticks close to Plan 9-tan and would have a habit of writing down everything Plan 9-tan says (even the embarrassing stuff).
Based on the mascot's eyes, I thought of her as being eternally non-chalant, kinda like this character from DearS:
Hmmmm....I may just have to add her to my Plan 9/Inferno-chan drawing! I'll probably take cues from both your and Aurora's design...
And, after hearing what Aurora said about her looks, I can see where she'd be similar to that pic you posted...
QuoteWell white hair is Plan 9-tan's color, so that'd be an interesting way of showing the relation (either as sister or clone). And yeah it looks cool. ^.^
The eyeshadow would have to be done in such a way so that it truthfully doesn't look deviant (or sleep-deprived). ^____^'
Might also concur that we skip it.
I, too, like the purple+white hair idea. You don't see a lot of makeup in anime...I think it could add a bit of distinction, but best not to overdo it ;)
QuoteAlso, I would like to hear the story of XINU. ^__^
QuoteOh, that's easy! ^v^
Llew ti od, gniht eno od.
Dne eht!
Praised be the Goddess amas-XINU!!!!!!!! ^V^
Ooooh, I've come up with a preconcept for XINU! Somehow I see her as dressing quite modern and elegant, but with a Native American twist, as the XINU logo looks like a Navajo rug:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Xinu-logo.jpg/150px-Xinu-logo.jpg)
I think she'd have long dark hair, tied into two ponytails and bound in some kind of ribbon or cord (like the traditional hairstyles worn by some Native Americans). And yeah, talking backwards could add a bit of quirk to her ;)
RED RUM! RED RUM! Aaahhaahhawb!
And speaking of new characters, did you know there's another Plan9 based OS? Octopus! All wikipedia says is that it's a "a new approach to Plan B"...
Hmmm...a clone of a clone....
And with tentacles to boot O_________O just kidding, just kidding!
Quote from: "Bella"But, you know, I think I've finally figured out Plan 9-san's attitude enough to draw a good representation of her. Let us look at some non-technical facts about Plan 9:
-Is considered by some to be "more Unix than Unix", that is to say, some concepts developed in early Unix are implemented even better in Plan 9. That said, it is also quite different.
-for it's age and history, it's relatively immature.
-As I believe Kami-Tux has pointed out before, Plan 9 is bemoaned for having a less-than-good (graphical) interface.
-Plan 9 has found barely any commercial appeal; many claim this is due to not being good enough to displace Unix, and not being marketed as well as it should be.
-I recall hearing Plan 9 supporters say their OS isn't as difficult to work with as some say; Although, I have no idea if this is true or just fanboy talk :P
Despite her somewhat macabre hobby of necromancing, somehow I now see Plan 9 as a much more innocent, some may say even naive, character than before. Sure, she wants the power and fame that her mother possesses, but when you get down to the basics of it, she's not willing to gain it though brutality.
Perhaps this is what so horrified her about the Unix Wars and caused her to rebel against her family; while she wants to be like her Unix-sama (and has even *gasp* mastered some fields that eluded the Goddess), I don't think she possesses the austerity of her mother or sisters, whom believe Plan 9-tan is just being childish when it comes to these matters.
She's a skillful Open Sourceress, and I suppose she uses her powers for the rather strange pastime of necromancing.
While being quite intimidating outwardly, she's not as difficult to get along with once you get to know her. That being said, she's still makes for a awkward and strange acquaintance, sometimes to a woeful level.
Woooooaaahhh. *Sparkly eyes* That's....The longest most detailed description I've ever seen on her. Plan-9-sama would be proud. ^_^
Quote from: "Bella"Well....I'm maybe possibly drawing a Plan 9 and Inferno-chan group pic.
And, BTW, I've decided to draw Inferno-chan as on the youngish side...And I'll be depicting Plan 9-sama as a bit more...youthful...I can't say more than this, though
Oooh, the long awaited Inferno-chan pic may come soon. Cool. ^_^
Quote from: "Bella"Speaking of which, does anyone have any ideas for what Inferno-chan might wear? I'm kinda/sorta maybe doing a drawing of her, I'll never tell.
Hmm, I'm thinking something along the lines of a skirt. Mabye in deep red. (or a fire motif)
Quote from: "Bella"Excuse me, I thought we were talking about WAITS-tan. Yeah, I know ITS-tan is still around...
Umm, erm, I may look like a complete idiot for saying this but..
Are there any decendents of the original Unix that are still supported today? I mean Unix-based OSes that aren't obsolete as of 2008?
Quote from: "Bella"*teary eyed*
*I can't believe I'm receiving this honor!*
And I'd put that medal on if I wasn't still a ghost T__T
Yeah, you've earned it Bella-sama. ^_^
Ghost? When did this happen? Did I miss something?
But don't worry, I'm sure Plan-9-Sama will help you with this, after all good things you've said about her.
Speaking of wich, C-chan I thought I saw FreeBSD-chan eat you.
How did you....?
.
.
...*thinks*...
.
Never mind, I don't want to know.
Quote from: "Bella"Ah, how I love these moments when I finally, figure out a character. Like when VMS-sama went from crazywoman to the mis-understood motherly type, or when Multics-sama went from preening egomaniac to fragile personality practically being buried by her own ambition and the ambition of those around her...
For what I'm about to say I sware on the Holy Bible, and may lightning strike me down if I'm lying.
Effie's really a kind and innocent girl once you get to know her, she's just got a bit of a naughty streak.
*Cringes*
Ha! See? I'm still here. *Grin*
Quote from: "Bella"And speaking of new characters, did you know there's another Plan9 based OS? Octopus! All wikipedia says is that it's a "a new approach to Plan B"...
Hmmm...a clone of a clone....
And with tentacles to boot O_________O just kidding, just kidding!
A Plan-9 Clone.....With tentacles?
WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?!?![/b]
Heheh, Jk I'd love to see a -tan of this OS too.
Quote from: "Aurora"Plan B-tan preconcept:
I've only halfway thought it through because I'm not sure what her hair color should be, I was thinking purple (match color of fins on the Plan B mascot) or white (like Plan 9-tan's). Her hairstyle is similar to Plan 9-tan's but spikier and wilder.
I actually have no idea what to do for the outfit but I for sure want to keep the large, purple, fin-like sleeves.
She also has dark grey eyes, wears black eyeshadow and has perpetually droopy eyes.
Personality-wise, I'm also not entirely sure. But I think she would see Plan 9-tan as her idol or at least be her part-time assistant. Also would she be Plan 9-tan's daughter or younger sister?
some info on Plan B: http://lsub.org/ls/planb.html
Woah, that's awesome ^-^ Great Job Aurora-sama.
Quote from: "C-chan"Great as usual. Now then. ^.^
*tosses pic in bottomless pit known as the "Queue"*
*Walks over and looks into the pit*
Wooooah @.@ that's deep. Kinda reminds me of the bottomless pit from "The Point".
Quote from: "C-chan"(lovin the bunny ears, btw!) ^.^
Yeah, despite her age and level of strangeness, I'd still go out with Plan-9-Sama ^-^.
You're staring at me again...I can feel it...
This morning I decided to fire up 'Ol Faithful and while straitening things up inside it, I noticed that it's still working for the most part. Won't get online, besides I don't think that my Netgear WG111v2 usb wireless adaptor would work on it. (Yes, I have 128K wireless internet.)
But while looking around, I noticed just how creepy the "3D Maze" screensaver is.
It's a maze, the walls are made of brick, it moves in a DOOM style.
But that's not the creepy part, there are Things in the maze.
Strangely shaped polygons that change the source of gravity and make you walk on the ceiling (there are also ones on the ceiling that make it normal again), rainbow colored text that reads "Open GL" and....Some kind of Ant eater or Giant lizard. Really, it scared me the first time I saw thig thing.. Kinda like the Ant eater from Stephen King's "Kingdom Hospital".
There's also "Flying Windows" and "Flying 3D Objects" which are seperate screensavers.
Flying 3D objects is the Windows logo, it waves in the wind like a flag and moves back and forth across the screen.
Flying windows is basicly the "Flying through Space" one only with the tiny stars being replaced by multi-colored windows logos TONS OF THEM.
Which reminds me of something from Futurama.
They're all on mars looking for missing cattle, and telling scary stories at night.
Quote from: "Bender"...And even though the computer was off and unplugged, an image stayed on the screen..It was....THE WINDOWS LOGO!
Okay, I'm off to another topic!
I loved Kingdom Hospital and The Point!
QuoteWoooooaaahhh. *Sparkly eyes* That's....The longest most detailed description I've ever seen on her. Plan-9-sama would be proud.
Thank you! Yeah....after reading a bit about Plan 9 it just....came to me....
QuoteOooh, the long awaited Inferno-chan pic may come soon. Cool.
Since you've been a good forum member, a fine conjecturist and have been willing to learn vector sketching, I'll let you in on a sneak peek of the vector sketch so far:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/rect3688.png)
I know C-Chan wanted longer hair on her, and I wanted shorter, so I compromised ;)
QuoteHmm, I'm thinking something along the lines of a skirt. Mabye in deep red. (or a fire motif)
(See: above :P)
QuoteUmm, erm, I may look like a complete idiot for saying this but..
Are there any decendents of the original Unix that are still supported today? I mean Unix-based OSes that aren't obsolete as of 2008?
If your talking about descendants in concept, Linux and Minix are "related" and working today. Assuming you mean direct source code descendants, then there's none other than Plan 9, Inferno, Plan B and Octopus...I dunno, but I think anything descended from System V (aka, all the modern Unixes) and BSD may also contain some original code (though I know Bell Labs made the BSD developers get rid of a lot, if not all, of their copyrighted code)...
QuoteYeah, you've earned it Bella-sama.
Ghost? When did this happen? Did I miss something?
But don't worry, I'm sure Plan-9-Sama will help you with this, after all good things you've said about her.
Thank you :)
As for what happened, I think I've gotten on the Goddess's nerves one too many times, and got banished to the underworld of the daemons...
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/posterlarge.png
As of right now I'm trying to get Plan 9 tan to send me back to the world of the living :P
QuoteSpeaking of wich, C-chan I thought I saw FreeBSD-chan eat you.
How did you....?
.
.
...*thinks*...
.
Never mind, I don't want to know.
I wondered the same XD
QuoteEffie's really a kind and innocent girl once you get to know her, she's just got a bit of a naughty streak.
*Cringes*
Ha! See? I'm still here. *Grin*
All those people around her are corrupting her, huh?
QuoteA Plan-9 Clone.....With tentacles?
WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?!?!
Heheh, Jk I'd love to see a -tan of this OS too.
Well, I don't think she'll have tentacles...maybe just really long hair ;)
QuoteBut while looking around, I noticed just how creepy the "3D Maze" screensaver is.
It's a maze, the walls are made of brick, it moves in a DOOM style.
But that's not the creepy part, there are Things in the maze.
Strangely shaped polygons that change the source of gravity and make you walk on the ceiling (there are also ones on the ceiling that make it normal again), rainbow colored text that reads "Open GL" and....Some kind of Ant eater or Giant lizard. Really, it scared me the first time I saw thig thing.. Kinda like the Ant eater from Stephen King's "Kingdom Hospital".
There's also "Flying Windows" and "Flying 3D Objects" which are seperate screensavers.
Flying 3D objects is the Windows logo, it waves in the wind like a flag and moves back and forth across the screen.
Flying windows is basicly the "Flying through Space" one only with the tiny stars being replaced by multi-colored windows logos TONS OF THEM.
Which reminds me of something from Futurama.
They're all on mars looking for missing cattle, and telling scary stories at night.
Oh, I remember that! The maze screensaver is strange...
Speaking of scary-M$-made-things, have any of yous seen the Zune ad? All I can thing is...someone in marketing needs to be fired. Seriously.
Quote...And even though the computer was off and unplugged, an image stayed on the screen..It was....THE WINDOWS LOGO!
XD
Bender speaks the truth!!!
QuoteSince you've been a good forum member, a fine conjecturist and have been willing to learn vector sketching, I'll let you in on a sneak peek of the vector sketch so far:
Wut...WUT...is that sum
MOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/size][/i][/color]
Hey everyone, Got a new avatar.
*Looks up* *loud gasp* my rank changed! I'm a NT now.
This almost makes me want to put the great NT-sama up there.
Quote from: "Bella"Since you've been a good forum member, a fine conjecturist and have been willing to learn vector sketching, I'll let you in on a sneak peek of the vector sketch so far:
Ooooh, Inferno-chan. Awesome work so far bella. ^_^ I'd glomp this uber-cute girl but I'm afraid she'd set me on fire.
Quote from: "Bella"If your talking about descendants in concept, Linux and Minix are "related" and working today. Assuming you mean direct source code descendants, then there's none other than Plan 9, Inferno, Plan B and Octopus...I dunno, but I think anything descended from System V (aka, all the modern Unixes) and BSD may also contain some original code (though I know Bell Labs made the BSD developers get rid of a lot, if not all, of their copyrighted code)...
Ahh yes, Linux and the thousands of off-versions of it. (I was really thinking about trying one of them, which do you recomend?)
Quote from: "Bella"As for what happened, I think I've gotten on the Goddess's nerves one too many times, and got banished to the underworld of the daemons...
Heheh. I just noticed that post you made in your thread. That image is hilarious XD. But Unix-sama might not feel the same as I do about it.
Quote from: "Bella"All those people around her are corrupting her, huh?
Yeah, while there are quite alot of intelligent people at Fchan there are a small number people whom are like a Furry variant of /b/-tards.
Don't mind me, just marking my territory. ^___^
*starts peeling off rainchecks*
*start typing too*
Added after 1 hours 10 minutes: QuoteNice job! I really like how you worked in the references to PlanB's logo...
Moreover, can't believe you found info on PlanB! I couldn't find anything...I must suck at teh internets XD
I didn't realize you didn't know about that little website. I thought you meant you didn't find OTHER articles on Plan B-tan. ^_____^;
Quote*sets C-Chan up with VMS-sama*
C'mon, buddy, she's a good 5' 10, 11'!
*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*
That's better I guess, but still,.... it's like going from tuna to albacore, but still not quite there to the caviar. -___-
.......
Plus VMS-sama always struck me as a 5'8" or 9".....
*reads carefully*
Oh wait,... you use the apostrophe sign for feet, no?
Then that means...
SHE'S 11 feet tall?!!!!!!!!! @v@
Well now, why didn'a ya say so?!! Forget the caviar, that's like having the whole Beluga! ^__________^
QuoteExcuse me, I thought we were talking about WAITS-tan. Yeah, I know ITS-tan is still around...
Aa sou.... ^__^
WAITS-tan being alive is a big 'if', although we might have agreed she is if we made that whole PCLOS Gnu Ranch joke. ^__^
QuoteAnd yes, ITS-tan would be....an aunt to her, I believe :P
There you go! UNIX-sama is a nice niece after all! ^v^
......
...or a more sinister explanation is that she just wants to pay to keep her quiet. She'd know to many secrets, after all. ^.^
QuoteOoooh, she sounds interesting!
And yeah, I do see just a bit of resemblance
Funny how a combination of Sakura Kinomoto and Miyu Yamazaki could result in an Anime character design similar to half a dozen other Anime characters. Eclair notwithstanding. ^___^
But yes, Mama Amiga would have to look a little like that.
FYI, she's hardly the best mother in the world (and that's saying a lot with UNIX-sama in our midst), but I believe she shapes up a bit now that there are grandkids present.
QuoteAnd I'd put that medal on if I wasn't still a ghost T__T
Oh, I can soak it in ectoplasm if you'd like. ^.^
QuoteI'm still trying to figure out how on earth Linux-sama and Minix-sensei fell in with them o__O
Well technically they haven't. ^^;
*ducks from chair being tossed in latest Linux-Unix.... "disagreement"/brawl*
But you know,... as the old saying goes,.... "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." ^____^
Why keep fighting amongst family when you COULD bind together to grow stronger and vanquish common foes. ^.^
....
*gets crushed by flying cabinet that missed its mark*
QuoteBut yes, I now think that Plan 9-san, while being perhaps the most like Unix-sama from a "genetic" POV, is actually the least like her in mindset.
Don't think, though, that this means she won't have you dancing around a metal pole on Christmas eve. I mean, she probably wouldn't,... but undoubtedly her celebration would take on a characteristcally "Nightmare Before Christmas" feel to them. ^^;
.....
Mixed with a dash of Ed Wood.... ^____^;
...........
..................
........................
Pull the strings!! PULL THE STRINGS!!!! ^0^
QuoteHmmmm....I may just have to add her to my Plan 9/Inferno-chan drawing! I'll probably take cues from both your and Aurora's design...
And, after hearing what Aurora said about her looks, I can see where she'd be similar to that pic you posted...
Kewl. ^.^
Actually,... in the emerging spirit of FOSA,... would you like me to help you add the rest of the gang to the picture?
If you're already drawing half the UserSpace Gang,... might as well add the BSD crew too. ^.^
.....
And all the "pets"..... ^________^'
QuoteOoooh, I've come up with a preconcept for XINU! Somehow I see her as dressing quite modern and elegant, but with a Native American twist, as the XINU logo looks like a Navajo rug:
I think she'd have long dark hair, tied into two ponytails and bound in some kind of ribbon or cord (like the traditional hairstyles worn by some Native Americans). And yeah, talking backwards could add a bit of quirk to her
RED RUM! RED RUM! Aaahhaahhawb!
Okay! Now we're cookin' with FIYA!!! ^v^
I'd love to see a softer, gentler UNIX-sama clone,... thingie.... ^________^
I haven't been this excited at the prospect of a UNIX-sama clone since realizing that C-One-tan's power COULD allow her to morph into the goddess as well. ^v^
QuoteAnd speaking of new characters, did you know there's another Plan9 based OS? Octopus! All wikipedia says is that it's a "a new approach to Plan B"...
Hmmm...a clone of a clone....
And with tentacles to boot O_________O just kidding, just kidding!
HOLY HELL!!!! I didn't know about the existence of Octopus either!!!!!!! @_______@
Certainly the premise blows my mind, but I can kinda see where her origin might derive from. ^___^'
Out of temporary curiosity (and a closet megalomania acquired after being around 9-sama for too long), B-chan might've broke into 9-sama's lab one night and tried to create a clone of herself. Lacking the finer subtleties of 9-sama's inherent skills and years of experience, she ended up producing something approximating an abomination. But being a cute abomination, and not having the heart to get rid ofher, she just decided to let her be. The fact that she'd get along well with Inferno-chan and the BSDs -- couple with 9-sama not yet realizing where the octopus girl came from -- more than cements her place in the UserSpace scheme of things. ^___^
Whatcha think? Farfetched or no? ^^
QuoteUmm, erm, I may look like a complete idiot for saying this but..
Are there any decendents of the original Unix that are still supported today? I mean Unix-based OSes that aren't obsolete as of 2008?
Bella-sama answered this, but you know you can also find TONS of nice, pretty UNIX descendants in your local Apple Store. ^.^
Leopard-sama, in fact, is UNIX compliant. ^___^
QuoteSpeaking of wich, C-chan I thought I saw FreeBSD-chan eat you.
How did you....?
.
.
...*thinks*...
.
Never mind, I don't want to know.
*eye lid starts twitching*
*shudders*
*tosses shower utensils away from view*
Yeah,.... personally d00d,............................ there are some things you're better off not knowing. ^^;
QuoteA Plan-9 Clone.....With tentacles?
WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?!?!
Heheh, Jk I'd love to see a -tan of this OS too.
Second that. ^_______^
QuoteSince you've been a good forum member, a fine conjecturist and have been willing to learn vector sketching, I'll let you in on a sneak peek of the vector sketch so far:
I know C-Chan wanted longer hair on her, and I wanted shorter, so I compromised
*squeals* ^___^
Is this teenage Inferno-chan? I think she definitely has the clothing nailed right, and I could definitely go for the long bangs (something she probably copied off FreeBSD-oneesan). I think for maximum impact, though, multi-colored hair would work wonders (or at least some fiery highlights). ^^
Try her without the glasses too -- the more youthful energy she exhibits, the better. ^__^
QuoteWell, I don't think she'll have tentacles...maybe just really long hair
But then that'd make her too much like OS/2-sama. ;___;
*sniffles*
[whining and fussing] No! She must have tentacles of some sort!! Maybe say as a replacement for a skirt? ^^
QuoteSpeaking of scary-M$-made-things, have any of yous seen the Zune ad? All I can thing is...someone in marketing needs to be fired. Seriously.
I recall now Aurora-sama's cute Turd-Colored Zune-tan. ^___^
QuoteHey everyone, Got a new avatar.
*Looks up* *loud gasp* my rank changed! I'm a NT now.
This almost makes me want to put the great NT-sama up there.
The virus kid suits you, though. Admittedly, though, I've always said that Firefox-ko is the best one for you. ^___^
QuoteAhh yes, Linux and the thousands of off-versions of it. (I was really thinking about trying one of them, which do you recomend?)
PClinuxOS
Ubuntu
Mandriva
Linux Mint
gOS 2.0
MEPIS
Sidux
DreamLinux
Elive
I mean, i could go on all night, so just pick and choose.... ^.^
http://distrowatch.com/
I'd recommend inside Virtualbox first (why waste CDs?).
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_octopustanpreconcept.jpg)
Here is Octopus-tan, with real tentacle goodness!
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
AURORA-HIME, YOU'RE A GENIUS!!!!!!!! ^V^
I though I saw it all with giraffe girls, but now.... OMG!!!!
You've succeeding in making an octopus girl moe!!!! ^-^
I shall prostrate myself before your greatness!!!!!!!! ^v^
*grovels before Aurora*
Course now the UserSpace Gang is officially a zoo. ^___^;
Plan 9 = bunny
Plan B = fish
Octopus = octopus (duh!)
OpenBSD = pufferfish
DragonflyBSD = guess ^___^'
Added after 1 minutes:
BTW, did you read my premise? I think it + your design fit like a glove. ^__^
That's an awesome Octopus-tan, Aurora! I like her little, angry self.
QuoteDragonflyBSD = guess ^___^'
Oooh! Oooh! A lemur!
QuoteHey everyone, Got a new avatar.
*Looks up* *loud gasp* my rank changed! I'm a NT now.
This almost makes me want to put the great NT-sama up there.
We demand NT-sama!!!!
QuoteOoooh, Inferno-chan. Awesome work so far bella. I'd glomp this uber-cute girl but I'm afraid she'd set me on fire.
Thanks!
QuoteAhh yes, Linux and the thousands of off-versions of it. (I was really thinking about trying one of them, which do you recomend?)
Ubuntu (or one of the other 'buntus)! It's very polished and has lots of features, and is very user friendly.
If you want to go for something a little more exotic but still user friendly, then maybe SAM Linux or PCLOS....
And I concur with C-Chan, if you've got enough RAM, try it out on VirtualBox. Then you can mess around as much as you want without effecting your computer.
QuoteHeheh. I just noticed that post you made in your thread. That image is hilarious XD
Yeah, I dunno where the "inspirational poster" theme came from, but it seemed to fit :P
QuoteSHE'S 11 feet tall?!!!!!!!!! @v@
Well now, why didn'a ya say so?!! Forget the caviar, that's like having the whole Beluga! ^__________^
Dream on buddy T__T
Maybe I have a skewed view on what's "tall"....everyone my age I'm around is like...a head shorter than me, even though I'm not that tall O___o
QuoteAa sou.... ^__^
WAITS-tan being alive is a big 'if', although we might have agreed she is if we made that whole PCLOS Gnu Ranch joke. ^__^
Hmmm...yeah, sadly, I believe I heard WAITS was shut down in 1998...
QuoteThere you go! UNIX-sama is a nice niece after all! ^v^
......
...or a more sinister explanation is that she just wants to pay to keep her quiet. She'd know to many secrets, after all. ^.^
Ahaha! That's why she'd funding the Vintage-tans! It's "hush money"...
*...And things take another mafia turn...*
*holds back from making Unix/New Jersey joke*
*Unix/New Jersey joke averted! Mission accomplished!*
QuoteBut yes, Mama Amiga would have to look a little like that.
FYI, she's hardly the best mother in the world (and that's saying a lot with UNIX-sama in our midst), but I believe she shapes up a bit now that there are grandkids present.
Oh man, yesterday I happened to wonder for a moment what growing up with Unix-sama as a mother would have been like for Plan 9-chan (and BSD-chan, maybe)...what a bizarre ordeal that would have been O____O
I guess VMS-sama would have been quite normal, had she actually had a daughter in the traditional sense...
Like...the only normal mother in all of OS-tandom is NT-san.
QuoteWell technically they haven't. ^^;
*ducks from chair being tossed in latest Linux-Unix.... "disagreement"/brawl*
But you know,... as the old saying goes,.... "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." ^____^
Why keep fighting amongst family when you COULD bind together to grow stronger and vanquish common foes. ^.^
....
*gets crushed by flying cabinet that missed its mark*
Well, if you think about it, Linux is used/marketed by a lot of big companies alongside traditional Unix OSs. So I guess it wouldn't be too far fetched that Linux-sama and some Unixes have learned to work together and yes, maybe even like each other, in some way...
It's only troublemakers like SCO-chan who instigate disputes -___-
*ducks flying crutch coming from SCO-chan*
QuoteKewl. ^.^
Actually,... in the emerging spirit of FOSA,... would you like me to help you add the rest of the gang to the picture?
If you're already drawing half the UserSpace Gang,... might as well add the BSD crew too. ^.^
.....
And all the "pets"..... ^________^'
Sure!
Only if you aren't super-busy with a ton of other projects ;)
QuoteOkay! Now we're cookin' with FIYA!!! ^v^
I'd love to see a softer, gentler UNIX-sama clone,... thingie.... ^________^
So you like my ideas?
Or, in XINU speak...saedi ym ekil uoy os?
QuoteI haven't been this excited at the prospect of a UNIX-sama clone since realizing that C-One-tan's power COULD allow her to morph into the goddess as well. ^v^
Hmmm...C-One can emulate any OS though ROM or something, right?
QuoteHOLY HELL!!!! I didn't know about the existence of Octopus either!!!!!!! @_______@
Certainly the premise blows my mind, but I can kinda see where her origin might derive from. ^___^'
Out of temporary curiosity (and a closet megalomania acquired after being around 9-sama for too long), B-chan might've broke into 9-sama's lab one night and tried to create a clone of herself. Lacking the finer subtleties of 9-sama's inherent skills and years of experience, she ended up producing something approximating an abomination. But being a cute abomination, and not having the heart to get rid ofher, she just decided to let her be. The fact that she'd get along well with Inferno-chan and the BSDs -- couple with 9-sama not yet realizing where the octopus girl came from -- more than cements her place in the UserSpace scheme of things. ^___^
Whatcha think? Farfetched or no? ^^
It's a bit late to talk about far fetched :P
But that sounds about right ;)
QuoteBella-sama answered this, but you know you can also find TONS of nice, pretty UNIX descendants in your local Apple Store. ^.^
Leopard-sama, in fact, is UNIX compliant. ^___^
Ah, the OS Xs, the hot, famous, superstars of the *nix family...
And yeah, I did read Leopard is certified under the Single UNIX Specification.
*thinks about Leopard-chan...*
I can tell you this girl's probably had a few books thrown at her, if ya catch my drift :P
Quote*squeals* ^___^
Is this teenage Inferno-chan? I think she definitely has the clothing nailed right, and I could definitely go for the long bangs (something she probably copied off FreeBSD-oneesan). I think for maximum impact, though, multi-colored hair would work wonders (or at least some fiery highlights). ^^
Try her without the glasses too -- the more youthful energy she exhibits, the better. ^__^
Well, I was thinking she's more on the preteen side...
I also assure you I'm adamant on the hairdo, and love the glasses. I like my meganes, it can't be helped :P
But I will probably give her some highlights, maybe bright red or yellow...
QuoteHere is Octopus-tan, with real tentacle goodness!
Cute!
Though I have to say I wouldn't want to get her angry O_____o
Course now the UserSpace Gang is officially a zoo. ^___^;
QuotePlan 9 = bunny
Plan B = fish
Octopus = octopus (duh!)
OpenBSD = pufferfish
DragonflyBSD = guess ^___^'
So, I suppose FreeBSD-chan is a pig, and Inferno-chan...a fire breathing dragon?
Also, would OliveBSD have any chance for fitting into the zoo?
How close of a relation is MidnightBSD? I've been playing with concepts for her, too.
QuoteOooh! Oooh! A lemur!
*FLOPS!!* >V<
QuoteMaybe I have a skewed view on what's "tall"....everyone my age I'm around is like...a head shorter than me, even though I'm not that tall O___o
Oh dear gawds....
Does your town ban rBGH-laced milk or something? ^________^;
(j/k! j/k! -- probably better if they do, anyway)
QuoteHmmm...yeah, sadly, I believe I heard WAITS was shut down in 1998...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! ^0^
*C-chan slumps*
My Gnu ranch idea..... ;X___x;
*sniffles*
*C-chan turns to dust and scatters in the wind*
QuoteOh man, yesterday I happened to wonder for a moment what growing up with Unix-sama as a mother would have been like for Plan 9-chan (and BSD-chan, maybe)...what a bizarre ordeal that would have been O____O
I guess VMS-sama would have been quite normal, had she actually had a daughter in the traditional sense...
Like...the only normal mother in all of OS-tandom is NT-san.
Now now,... Mama DOS is pretty norm--...... oh wait, no..... ^.^
I'm sure Rhapsody-san is.......... oh wait, drinking problem..... ^___^'
Plan 9-san all but WORSHIPS Inferno-chan.......... oh wait, that could be misinterpreted.... -v-;
Wait, Apple I-san all but warrants a Mother's Day all for herse--............. oh wait,... I forgot.... the whole dead thing. ^_______________________^;
There is actually a Mama BSD too, but.......... I don't think...... naaah,... never mind..... -v-'
QuoteWell, if you think about it, Linux is used/marketed by a lot of big companies alongside traditional Unix OSs. So I guess it wouldn't be too far fetched that Linux-sama and some Unixes have learned to work together and yes, maybe even like each other, in some way...
A big "maybe"
QuoteIt's only troublemakers like SCO-chan who instigate disputes -___-
*ducks flying crutch coming from SCO-chan*
Well,... that's being too kind to the likes of Solaris-sama. ^^;
*gets stepped on by a vengeful Solaris-tan*
QuoteSure!
Only if you aren't super-busy with a ton of other projects
Even if I am, HELL!! Let's go for it!!! ^V^
Just let me get
Operation Bella Boost complete, and I'm all yours. ^.^
QuoteSo you like my ideas?
Or, in XINU speak...saedi ym ekil uoy os?
Naaaaaaaaaaaah,... Bella-san never has anything good to say! Let's all collectively ignore her this minute. ^.^
QuoteHmmm...C-One can emulate any OS though ROM or something, right?
She's....................... not........ supposed....... to.
But PTSDOS-tan messed around with her while C64-tan wasn't looking, and inadvertently gave her a lot of interesting new abilities.
She's only able to emulate another OS-tan at a maximum of 75% of their original power (and besides, it's not a perfect mimicry either, since C-One's emulated OS-tan will still have blue hair and dead green eyes).
Still,... even if an Emulated 95-tan could never defeat the original,... an emulated UNIX-sama is MORE than a match for just about anyone short of the original. ^v^'
....
Just as long as she works properly, of course.... ^___^;
QuoteI can tell you this girl's probably had a few books thrown at her, if ya catch my drift :P
I'd say more like an entire library's worth. ^__________________^;
QuoteWell, I was thinking she's more on the preteen side...
I also assure you I'm adamant on the hairdo, and love the glasses. I like my meganes, it can't be helped :P
But I will probably give her some highlights, maybe bright red or yellow...
How about bright red AND yellow. If it looks good, I'll trade that for the glasses. ^___^
QuoteSo, I suppose FreeBSD-chan is a pig, and Inferno-chan...a fire breathing dragon?
*squeals at thought of being with FreeBSD-tan* ^.^
....
*then shudders at recollection of stomach incident* @____@'
Oh, and NetBSD-tan would be,................. a toaster? ^^;
QuoteAlso, would OliveBSD have any chance for fitting into the zoo?
How close of a relation is MidnightBSD? I've been playing with concepts for her, too.
Well you do have to leave some BSD-tans out in the real world, too. ^.^
Some of them, like DesktopBSD-tan, have chosen to mingle with the Linux crowd, while the more old-school minded (like Mama BSD-tan) hang around with the old bloodline. ^___^'
Course, you created OliveBSD-tan, so you let us know with whom the young gal would love to hang out with! ^____^
For sure, Damn Small BSD-tan is OBLIGED to join her Linux cohorts. ^.^
QuoteHow close of a relation is MidnightBSD? I've been playing with concepts for her, too.
According to wikipedia, MidnightBSD uses a NeXTSTEP UI; the logo appears to be a panther or some sort of big cat:
(http://www.midnightbsd.org/images/mbsd_newlogo.png)
So somehow I think she'd dress quite darkly and perhaps have a darker skintone, black hair, and light eyes. If you want to go all out, she may even be a cat-girl....
QuoteOh dear gawds....
Does your town ban rBGH-laced milk or something? ^________^;
(j/k! j/k! -- probably better if they do, anyway)
I dunno ;013
Quote
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! ^0^
*C-chan slumps*
My Gnu ranch idea..... ;X___x;
*sniffles*
*C-chan turns to dust and scatters in the wind*
*starts singing Kansas song*
*All we are is dust in the wind....*
QuoteNow now,... Mama DOS is pretty norm--...... oh wait, no..... ^.^
I'm sure Rhapsody-san is.......... oh wait, drinking problem..... ^___^'
Plan 9-san all but WORSHIPS Inferno-chan.......... oh wait, that could be misinterpreted.... -v-;
Wait, Apple I-san all but warrants a Mother's Day all for herse--............. oh wait,... I forgot.... the whole dead thing. ^_______________________^;
There is actually a Mama BSD too, but.......... I don't think...... naaah,... never mind..... -v-'
See, I told you NT-san's the only good mama...except for the whole, vicious conquering of the server market :P
QuoteA big "maybe"
Oh, okay, they're amiable acquaintances...?
QuoteEven if I am, HELL!! Let's go for it!!! ^V^
Just let me get Operation Bella Boost complete, and I'm all yours. ^.^
Awesome :)
QuoteShe's....................... not........ supposed....... to.
But PTSDOS-tan messed around with her while C64-tan wasn't looking, and inadvertently gave her a lot of interesting new abilities.
She's only able to emulate another OS-tan at a maximum of 75% of their original power (and besides, it's not a perfect mimicry either, since C-One's emulated OS-tan will still have blue hair and dead green eyes).
Still,... even if an Emulated 95-tan could never defeat the original,... an emulated UNIX-sama is MORE than a match for just about anyone short of the original. ^v^'
....
Just as long as she works properly, of course.... ^___^;
Oh, so she doesn't just shape-shift? She can also mimic powers and abilities?
QuoteI'd say more like an entire library's worth. ^__________________^;
LOL!
QuoteHow about bright red AND yellow. If it looks good, I'll trade that for the glasses. ^___^
That's a deal!
*shakes hand*
QuoteWell you do have to leave some BSD-tans out in the real world, too. ^.^
Some of them, like DesktopBSD-tan, have chosen to mingle with the Linux crowd, while the more old-school minded (like Mama BSD-tan) hang around with the old bloodline. ^___^'
Course, you created OliveBSD-tan, so you let us know with whom the young gal would love to hang out with! ^____^
For sure, Damn Small BSD-tan is OBLIGED to join her Linux cohorts. ^.^
Consorting with the enemy, eh? :P
BTW, would this "mama BSD" you speak of represent the original Berkley Software Distribution?
Oh yeah, and I just was reading about BSD...I never knew it was so influential...
I mean, (the original) BSD has had influence on Solaris and other commercial Unixes, 4.3BSD was called one of the greatest pieces of software ever written. Some of the legal troubles the BSD developers got into also opened the door to more acceptance of Linux-based OSs; but I read if 386BSD, a free BSD OS, had been available (legally), Linux may have never even been created O___O
Now think, for a moment, about what fine sappy material that could make for in an OS-tan context ;)
(but I do feel like another piece of the Linux/BSD fanboy rivalry is explained)
QuoteSo somehow I think she'd dress quite darkly and perhaps have a darker skintone, black hair, and light eyes. If you want to go all out, she may even be a cat-girl....
oooh,... think about it another way,... she'd literally be a cousin of the OSX catgirls! ^.^
(Panther-sama, more likely)
QuoteOh, so she doesn't just shape-shift? She can also mimic powers and abilities?
And speech too. ^___^
Trust me, it'd be funny as hell watching a UNIX-sama that acts like her normal (minus the conscious knowledge that she's not the real thing), but looks kinda like this:
(http://ostan-collections.net/images/avatars_ostan/990914562450bef89dff8a.png)
I suppose I'm overdue to draw a real C-One one of these days. -v-;
QuoteThat's a deal!
*shakes hand*
Hoof, you mean. ^^'
QuoteBTW, would this "mama BSD" you speak of represent the original Berkley Software Distribution?
C-o-r-r-e-c-t! ^__^
*offers Bella a cookie*
QuoteOh yeah, and I just was reading about BSD...I never knew it was so influential...
I mean, (the original) BSD has had influence on Solaris and other commercial Unixes, 4.3BSD was called one of the greatest pieces of software ever written. Some of the legal troubles the BSD developers got into also opened the door to more acceptance of Linux-based OSs; but I read if 386BSD, a free BSD OS, had been available (legally), Linux may have never even been created O___O
Now think, for a moment, about what fine sappy material that could make for in an OS-tan context
(but I do feel like another piece of the Linux/BSD fanboy rivalry is explained)
As if we needed another reminder of Bella-sama's razor-sharp perception. ^^
Yep, she would be one of the more influential "Old Guard" Unices around (a "general' so to speak, if you want to compare the *Nix family to viruses). ^^'
She would definitely be a lot more flexible than her other sisters of that era, but compared to her descendants and the Linuces, her ideology definitely shows some antiquity. And like the Unices of Old,... she's also a bit of a nut. ^_____^;
But while she admires UNIX-sama, she also resents her somewhat for creating the kind of austere environment that would inevitably chase away half her children. Indeed, while she doesn't yearn for sap, she creates a lot more of it than she realizes. ^^;
QuoteAccording to wikipedia, MidnightBSD uses a NeXTSTEP UI; the logo appears to be a panther or some sort of big cat:
She also has a butterfly logo.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/MarcandSiya/MidnightBSD.png)
and a logo that looks somewhat like a black cat with a red bow/horns.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/MarcandSiya/MidnightBSD5.png)
I was thinking of giving her a somewhat "lady of the night" cat-girl look, making the butterfly a strong clothing element. I like the suggestion of the dark skin. I'll need to condense my sketches into something a little more concrete.
Quoteoooh,... think about it another way,... she'd literally be a cousin of the OSX catgirls! ^.^
(Panther-sama, more likely)
Exactly what I was thinking :P
QuoteAnd speech too. ^___^
Trust me, it'd be funny as hell watching a UNIX-sama that acts like her normal (minus the conscious knowledge that she's not the real thing), but looks kinda like this:
I suppose I'm overdue to draw a real C-One one of these days. -v-;
Funny, yes, but not funny for the poor impostor C-One when the real Unix-sama finds out what she's up to O_____O
QuoteAs if we needed another reminder of Bella-sama's razor-sharp perception. ^^
Yep, she would be one of the more influential "Old Guard" Unices around (a "general' so to speak, if you want to compare the *Nix family to viruses). ^^'
She would definitely be a lot more flexible than her other sisters of that era, but compared to her descendants and the Linuces, her ideology definitely shows some antiquity. And like the Unices of Old,... she's also a bit of a nut. ^_____^;
But while she admires UNIX-sama, she also resents her somewhat for creating the kind of austere environment that would inevitably chase away half her children. Indeed, while she doesn't yearn for sap, she creates a lot more of it than she realizes. ^^;
Ah, inadvertent sap, is there any other kind?
So, would she be...like...Plan 9-san's full sister or something like that? Assuming BSD-san still contained all that copyrighted source code, that is ;)
And am I wrong for envisioning her with red hair...?[/quote]
QuoteShe also has a butterfly logo.
and a logo that looks somewhat like a black cat with a red bow/horns.
*Envisions combination cat/daemon/butterfly-girl*
*passes out*
Too many spices ruin the stew! :P
Maybe it'd be safer to make her a catgirl with red bows as you suggested...a catgirl with butterfly wings is an...interesting thought...but I know if anyone can pull it off with style and elegance, it's you!
QuoteI was thinking of giving her a somewhat "lady of the night" cat-girl look, making the butterfly a strong clothing element. I like the suggestion of the dark skin. I'll need to condense my sketches into something a little more concrete.
*thinks about Catwoman from the movie a few years back*
Can't wait to see her! :D
QuoteI was thinking of giving her a somewhat "lady of the night" cat-girl look, making the butterfly a strong clothing element. I like the suggestion of the dark skin. I'll need to condense my sketches into something a little more concrete.
I second the veritable hodge-podge of themes. It's like someone grabbed Panther-sama, AROS-chan and MOS-chan, and rolled them up into a BSD abomination.
*starts imagining outcome*
....
*brains melts* X________x
QuoteFunny, yes, but not funny for the poor impostor C-One when the real Unix-sama finds out what she's up to O_____O
Actually,......... she more than knows about her. ^___^
Perhaps its because C-One is only a machine and thus very "pure", but UNIX-sama is fond of her and occasionally "borrows" her even. For what purposes, one can only wonder,... but with the right kind of contact lenses and some dark purple hair dye, you could theoretically end up with one very convincing decoy.
QuoteSo, would she be...like...Plan 9-san's full sister or something like that? Assuming BSD-san still contained all that copyrighted source code, that is
yep, an older sister.
QuoteAnd am I wrong for envisioning her with red hair...?
Mmmmmm.... tough call actually.
Problem is,... there may be a BSD-tan out there already and it has blue hair. DOn't recall at the moment where, but Alfamille showed her to me once and the page may be accessible at the Wiki links (can't check out from my location).
Admittedly, the designed seemed far to juvenile for someone of her calibre, so I wouldn't mind a new take. -.-
QuoteMaybe it'd be safer to make her a catgirl with red bows as you suggested...a catgirl with butterfly wings is an...interesting thought...but I know if anyone can pull it off with style and elegance, it's you!
Amen to that. Siya-san is one resourceful fellow -- but then again, he has Marc to help out so no fair.
*C-chan wishes he too would had an M-chan surgically-fused to him, in order to help with brainstorming*
Quote from: "C-chan"Out of temporary curiosity (and a closet megalomania acquired after being around 9-sama for too long), B-chan might've broke into 9-sama's lab one night and tried to create a clone of herself. Lacking the finer subtleties of 9-sama's inherent skills and years of experience, she ended up producing something approximating an abomination. But being a cute abomination, and not having the heart to get rid ofher, she just decided to let her be. The fact that she'd get along well with Inferno-chan and the BSDs -- couple with 9-sama not yet realizing where the octopus girl came from -- more than cements her place in the UserSpace scheme of things. ^___^
Awww, what a heart warming moment. (Well, sort of..)
Quote from: "C-chan"The virus kid suits you, though. Admittedly, though, I've always said that Firefox-ko is the best one for you. ^___^
Yeah, but pretty soon I'm going to make a wiki style avatar of Fchan-tan.
Then that's going up there and staying for a while.
Quote from: "C-chan"PClinuxOS
Ubuntu
Mandriva
Linux Mint
gOS 2.0
MEPIS
Sidux
DreamLinux
Elive
I mean, i could go on all night, so just pick and choose.... ^.^
http://distrowatch.com/
I'd recommend inside Virtualbox first (why waste CDs?).
Hmmm, I think I'll try.......PCLinuxOS! ^_^
Didn't someone somewhere make a -tan of her?
Quote from: "Aurora Borealis"Here is Octopus-tan, with real tentacle goodness!
Oooooooh! She's pretty. I just hope that her and Effie never get together. That could be a dangerous thing..
Quote from: "C-chan"Now now,... Mama DOS is pretty norm--...... oh wait, no..... ^.^
I'm sure Rhapsody-san is.......... oh wait, drinking problem..... ^___^'
Plan 9-san all but WORSHIPS Inferno-chan.......... oh wait, that could be misinterpreted.... -v-;
Wait, Apple I-san all but warrants a Mother's Day all for herse--............. oh wait,... I forgot.... the whole dead thing. ^_______________________^;
There is actually a Mama BSD too, but.......... I don't think...... naaah,... never mind..... -v-'
Well, Apple I-tan may be dead....but for how long? I know a certain Bunny girl who could do something about that......Fufufufu.
Quote from: "C-chan"She's....................... not........ supposed....... to.
But PTSDOS-tan messed around with her while C64-tan wasn't looking, and inadvertently gave her a lot of interesting new abilities.
She's only able to emulate another OS-tan at a maximum of 75% of their original power (and besides, it's not a perfect mimicry either, since C-One's emulated OS-tan will still have blue hair and dead green eyes).
Still,... even if an Emulated 95-tan could never defeat the original,... an emulated UNIX-sama is MORE than a match for just about anyone short of the original. ^v^'
....
Just as long as she works properly, of course.... ^___^;
Hmmm, I wonder if she can emulate Effie.
Quote from: "Siya"How close of a relation is MidnightBSD? I've been playing with concepts for her, too.
Quote from: "Bella"So somehow I think she'd dress quite darkly and perhaps have a darker skintone, black hair, and light eyes. If you want to go all out, she may even be a cat-girl....
Quote from: "C-chan"oooh,... think about it another way,... she'd literally be a cousin of the OSX catgirls! ^.^
(Panther-sama, more likely)
I'm all for this Catgirl Idea, a bit of a way to show the relation between the BSDs and the OSX 10s.
QuoteAwww, what a heart warming moment. (Well, sort of..)
Attaching the story to Aurora-hime's drawing,........ yeah,... a BIIIIIIIIIIIG "sort of". ^^;
QuoteYeah, but pretty soon I'm going to make a wiki style avatar of Fchan-tan.
Then that's going up there and staying for a while.
Kewl! Just call me when she's finished. I'll add it to the Wiki Avatar Gallery. ^^
QuoteHmmm, I think I'll try.......PCLinuxOS!
Didn't someone somewhere make a -tan of her?
Yeah,... we did. ^__^
A Bella+C-chan hybrid....
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/PCLOS-tan.jpeg
Should probably warn that PCLOS 2007 is well over 8 months old now, and the 2008 version is due any day now. MiniME 2008, a stripped-down version of PCLOS, is available but not exactly good for new users.
'07 doesn't disappoint, but I'd recommend also trying out a newer distro (like the other top ones on the list) to see just how far they've evolved. ^__^
QuoteOooooooh! She's pretty. I just hope that her and Effie never get together. That could be a dangerous thing..
I picture the type of wacky, uber-eye-candy combo that you'd get from a Marvel vs Capcom fighting game. ^____^;
QuoteWell, Apple I-tan may be dead....but for how long? I know a certain Bunny girl who could do something about that......Fufufufu.
It's sad that Plan 9-tan could very well be the Monty Python "Bunny of Death"..... ^^;
QuoteHmmm, I wonder if she can emulate Effie.
Only if she's got a ROM, so in F-chan's case,.... hmmmm.... might require an upgrade.... TvT'
Here's what I've done with Inferno-chan so far:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/rect3689.png)
Hope ya'll like the lighting, and hightlights...
QuoteI second the veritable hodge-podge of themes. It's like someone grabbed Panther-sama, AROS-chan and MOS-chan, and rolled them up into a BSD abomination.
Wow, you're right!
QuoteActually,......... she more than knows about her. ^___^
Perhaps its because C-One is only a machine and thus very "pure", but UNIX-sama is fond of her and occasionally "borrows" her even. For what purposes, one can only wonder,... but with the right kind of contact lenses and some dark purple hair dye, you could theoretically end up with one very convincing decoy.
Oh, so she's just a machine.
And Unix-sama is fond of her? Wa...wha...Unix-sama is fond of somebody!? This is news to me! But surely there'd be many a use for a doppleganger of C-One's quality...maybe she does her bidding :P
QuoteMmmmmm.... tough call actually.
Problem is,... there may be a BSD-tan out there already and it has blue hair. DOn't recall at the moment where, but Alfamille showed her to me once and the page may be accessible at the Wiki links (can't check out from my location).
Admittedly, the designed seemed far to juvenile for someone of her calibre, so I wouldn't mind a new take. -.-
Oh, I think I remember hearing about this...as for the blue hair, it could work well, since a lot of the *nix-tans have blue and purple hair of varying shades...
QuoteAwww, what a heart warming moment. (Well, sort of..)
Heartwarming in a User-Space gang kind way XD
QuoteYeah, but pretty soon I'm going to make a wiki style avatar of Fchan-tan.
Then that's going up there and staying for a while.
Neat! Hope we see her soon!
QuoteHmmm, I think I'll try.......PCLinuxOS!
Didn't someone somewhere make a -tan of her?
PCLOS! I've never used it, but I have used SAM which is a lightweight distro based off of it. Have you considered running it under VirtualBox, by any chance? And is the computer you're going to run it on a newer or older one?
QuoteI'm all for this Catgirl Idea, a bit of a way to show the relation between the BSDs and the OSX 10s.
Exactly!
QuoteYeah,... we did. ^__^
A Bella+C-chan hybrid....
*Stares at PCLOS-sama*
*sighs*
QuoteIt's sad that Plan 9-tan could very well be the Monty Python "Bunny of Death"..... ^^;
LOL!
DEATH BUNNY! ;006
Hah! MidnightBSD-tan ideas consolidated!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/MarcandSiya/MidnightBSD-tan.jpg)
So, let's start with the head. Here, we have a ribbon tied into a bow (which will be red). She doesn't have cat ears, exactly, but her hair is put up to resemble a cat ear shape. The hair will be black.
Her robe/kimono is based off of the butterfly logo and will be white/light blue/light gray. It is closed loosely and the obi is tied in front, which was the style of Japanese prostitutes, back in the day. I'm debating whether the obi should be black, white or red. She wears long, black gloves and long, black, silk stockings. Also black shoes. She will also have a black cat tail. Cigarette and holder are mostly for effect.
Added after 5 minutes: QuoteSiya-san is one resourceful fellow -- but then again, he has Marc to help out so no fair.
Even though he does have his helpful moments, I'm more inclined to call Marc a distraction.
Midnight BSD-tan looks mighty classy! (despite the style of her outfit being associated with prostitutes)
QuoteHere's what I've done with Inferno-chan so far:
Hope ya'll like the lighting, and hightlights...
*swoons hard and fast* XvX
Believe you and me, I LUV what you did with the fire effect! This is the kind of dynamic luminism I'd see in a Frederic Edwin Church painting! ^____^
Also liked that you applied a lot of colored lighting to her as well. ^.^
Hair looks good to, although the orange/red highlights look too timid. To get that proper fiery affect -- they've go to absolutely sizzle in vibrance, almost as if they were as dynamic as the flame she's holding in her hands. ^v^
QuoteOh, so she's just a machine.
Well, okay an android.
Or more realistically,... a persecom rip-off. ^^;
QuoteAnd Unix-sama is fond of her? Wa...wha...Unix-sama is fond of somebody!? This is news to me! But surely there'd be many a use for a doppleganger of C-One's quality...maybe she does her bidding :P
Oh now,... it's not like the Goddess is a [total] monster now.... ^___^
Even Hannibal Lecter had people he was fond of and was friends with (and just ate anyone who wasn't). ^.^'
In much the same tone, there are individuals who -- through a combination of various traits that just happen to jive well with her -- don't invite her ire as easily. They're free to talk to her with confidence, joke with her, philosophize with her, and generally make everyone else who has to put up with her fury quite jealous. So far as I know, this includes:
- Linux-sama
- Amiga-san
- C-One
- EXEC-san
- ITS-san
- Inferno-chan (although there's a story to this one)
- VMS-sama (?!!!!!!!!!!)
- and generally anyone who's very small and helpless (Damn Small anything)
You might discover a pattern with some of them, but others are a bit more complicated. ^^
QuotePCLOS! I've never used it, but I have used SAM which is a lightweight distro based off of it. Have you considered running it under VirtualBox, by any chance? And is the computer you're going to run it on a newer or older one?
SAM 2008 came out already, but honestly don't like it as much as the older one. May have noticed I don't support it as much lately, for xyz reasons. -___-
For a lightweigth PCLOS distribution, TinyMe is a very good choice.
Speaking of VirtualBox, here's an article you might be interested to read:
http://linuxhow2.com/Feature_Articles/VirtualBox_A_Review.html
Quote*Stares at PCLOS-sama*
*sighs*
*GASPS*
OMG!!!!! Bella-sama just sighed!!!! @o@
THAT MUST MEAN SHE HATES OUR COLLABORATIVE PIC!!!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!! ;^0^;
*C-Chan disintegrates into dust and blows off into the wind*
QuoteHer robe/kimono is based off of the butterfly logo and will be white/light blue/light gray. It is closed loosely and the obi is tied in front, which was the style of Japanese prostitutes, back in the day. I'm debating whether the obi should be black, white or red. She wears long, black gloves and long, black, silk stockings. Also black shoes. She will also have a black cat tail. Cigarette and holder are mostly for effect.
Aaa sou.... already gave my impressions on MidnightBSD-tan in your thread, but seeing the details certainly lends more depth. ^__^
It's wonderful that the color scheme is already established, as it all but guarantees a colored design! ^v^
(incidentally,... I'd try a red obi first)
I know I've been biting more than I could chew lately, but if you ever do need help coloring/shading one of your sketches,... I'm more than eager too. ^>^
QuoteSo, let's start with the head. Here, we have a ribbon tied into a bow (which will be red). She doesn't have cat ears, exactly, but her hair is put up to resemble a cat ear shape. The hair will be black.
Her robe/kimono is based off of the butterfly logo and will be white/light blue/light gray. It is closed loosely and the obi is tied in front, which was the style of Japanese prostitutes, back in the day. I'm debating whether the obi should be black, white or red. She wears long, black gloves and long, black, silk stockings. Also black shoes. She will also have a black cat tail. Cigarette and holder are mostly for effect.
Oooooh, pretty!
The hair in the shape of cat ears is a good call (I did something like this with Ultrix-tan, were instead of horns she had a couple of curls). The kimono is gorgeous, (and may I suggest some kind of butterfly pattern?). Overall she's sexy without being trashy....
But...what's up with all the hawt BSD-tans?
Quote*swoons hard and fast* XvX
Believe you and me, I LUV what you did with the fire effect! This is the kind of dynamic luminism I'd see in a Frederic Edwin Church painting! ^____^
Also liked that you applied a lot of colored lighting to her as well. ^.^
Hair looks good to, although the orange/red highlights look too timid. To get that proper fiery affect -- they've go to absolutely sizzle in vibrance, almost as if they were as dynamic as the flame she's holding in her hands. ^v^
I added some yellow highlights to her hair:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/rect36810.png)
Funny you should mention painting, as I used methods for painting flames in photoshop for the fire she's holding. I just...adjusted them for a vector program :P
QuoteOh now,... it's not like the Goddess is a [total] monster now.... ^___^
Even Hannibal Lecter had people he was fond of and was friends with (and just ate anyone who wasn't). ^.^'
Hannibal Lecter and FreeBSD-tan both, eh?
QuoteIn much the same tone, there are individuals who -- through a combination of various traits that just happen to jive well with her -- don't invite her ire as easily. They're free to talk to her with confidence, joke with her, philosophize with her, and generally make everyone else who has to put up with her fury quite jealous. So far as I know, this includes:
- Linux-sama
- Amiga-san
- C-One
- EXEC-san
- ITS-san
- Inferno-chan (although there's a story to this one)
- VMS-sama (?!!!!!!!!!!)
- and generally anyone who's very small and helpless (Damn Small anything)
You might discover a pattern with some of them, but others are a bit more complicated. ^^
*Slackware-chan hopefully looks for her name*
*Not there? What the fsck!?* (<This is how Unix-likes curse, BTW)
*runs outta thread crying*
Hmmm...you've piqued my interest with this...So it's time to play...
Guess How Unix-sama likes this Random OS-Tan!
Linux-sama: As you've said before, the two are quite alike and share similar stories. Except Linux-sama never had corporate masters to impede her, or a war to mess up her family -__-
Amiga-san: This one really stumps me, since Miggy and Unix-sama are...like..polar opposites x10...but I can guess there's something about her kindness and selflessness Unix-sama admires...?
C-One: Cause C-One can be used to pacify Slackware-chan, of course!
EXEC-san: Hmmm...another stumper...
ITS-san: Gotta take care of family!
Inferno-chan (although there's a story to this one): Does the story have to do with grandma and grandchild both being part-time pyromaniacs?
VMS-sama (?!!!!!!!!!!): I second this ?!!!!!!!!!!!-! But I guess VMS-sama is quite powerful and smart in her own way...
and generally anyone who's very small and helpless (Damn Small anything): I'd say some sorta god(dess) complex, but that can't be :P
Quote*GASPS*
OMG!!!!! Bella-sama just sighed!!!! @o@
THAT MUST MEAN SHE HATES OUR COLLABORATIVE PIC!!!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!! ;^0^;
*C-Chan disintegrates into dust and blows off into the wind*
I should have elaborated, that was a dreamy sigh.
*dreamy sigh*
Quoteif you ever do need help coloring/shading one of your sketches,... I'm more than eager too. ^>^
Me too! It would be quite interesting vectorzing one of Siya's works...
QuoteOooooh, pretty!
The hair in the shape of cat ears is a good call (I did something like this with Ultrix-tan, were instead of horns she had a couple of curls). The kimono is gorgeous, (and may I suggest some kind of butterfly pattern?). Overall she's sexy without being trashy....
But...what's up with all the hawt BSD-tans?
Heck, you haven't seen the mother yet, have you? `v'
*cat growl*
Although the current OpenBSD-tan design still lacks a little moe,... more moe is required until we can say with absolute certaint, that ALL BSD-tans are hawt. (Although I reckon she'd be a hit among the Goth/Punk crowd). ^___^
QuoteI added some yellow highlights to her hair:
Okay, it's better.... ^__^
Certainly as good as it'll get without disrupting the realism. ^.^
I'm more into the idea that hair can be made to glow in the dark, and produce it's own combustion. ^____^'
QuoteFunny you should mention painting, as I used methods for painting flames in photoshop for the fire she's holding. I just...adjusted them for a vector program :P
That's something I'd love to learn myself. ^___^
*bows and grovels before Bella*
SENSEI!!!! ;^0^;
QuoteHannibal Lecter and FreeBSD-tan both, eh?
Oh snap, hadn't realized that connection... ^v^;
Quote*Slackware-chan hopefully looks for her name*
*Not there? What the fsck!?* (<This is how Unix-likes curse, BTW)
*runs outta thread crying*
Nope, she's not on there by a mile. But she is kinda like her court jester. `v'
QuoteLinux-sama: As you've said before, the two are quite alike and share similar stories. Except Linux-sama never had corporate masters to impede her, or a war to mess up her family -__-
Correct. ^^
Interesting to note that they were once mortal enemies, now best of friends. ^^
*pulls out handkerchief*
QuoteAmiga-san: This one really stumps me, since Miggy and Unix-sama are...like..polar opposites x10...but I can guess there's something about her kindness and selflessness Unix-sama admires...?
Correct. Not unlike said "purity" I mentioned before. Besides which, Miggy-chan is also extraordinarily brave, and first approached UNIX-sama in such a familiar manner that in other instances would be considered blasphemous. As if that weren't enough, both their experiences during the OS War era were not all that dissimilar.
And as if that weren't enough, UNIX-sama is well aware of how kindly Miggy-chan treated AMIX-tan.
And as if that weren't enough,... there's also something special about Miggy-chan that piques UNIX-sama's curiosity. ^.^
QuoteC-One: Cause C-One can be used to pacify Slackware-chan, of course!
Exactly. ^.^
But yeah, the decoy part is a great asset to someone of her strategic disposition.
QuoteEXEC-san: Hmmm...another stumper...
WHAAA?!! But she's the easiest. ^___^
Consider that EXEC-sama is perhaps one of THE OLDEST LIVING OS-tans in existence, and is perhaps the only person alive who can rightfully call the goddess UNIX-ta-- *quickly catches self* @__@
....
<___<
>___>
.....
*writes it down and flashes "UNIX-tan/UNIX-chan" at Bella before burning the evidence*
Even UNIX-sama feels obliged to respect her elders, and besides without CTSS-san as a grandmother figure, EXEC-sama is the closest she'll get to one.
QuoteITS-san: Gotta take care of family!
Correct. ^^
QuoteInferno-chan (although there's a story to this one): Does the story have to do with grandma and grandchild both being part-time pyromaniacs?
But of course. ^.^
Fufu... nah, but seriously, UNIX-sama does miss Plan9-tan even though neither will ever admit to that, so Inferno-chan is kind of like that missing conduit that would hopefully bring the two together one day. Unfortunately, Inferno-tan is pumped full of poison about her grandmother, so while she might've been curious about her grandmother as a child, she probably inherits a certain level of venom as she grows older.
QuoteVMS-sama (?!!!!!!!!!!): I second this ?!!!!!!!!!!!-! But I guess VMS-sama is quite powerful and smart in her own way...
Both are Old Skool girls, so you can imagine they sit down and chat during battle interludes, not unlike American Civil War generals. They respect eachother's strengths,... just not their notion of whose boundaries lie where. ^___^;
QuoteI'd say some sorta god(dess) complex, but that can't be :P
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Naaaaaaaaaaaah,... I'm sure overwhelming another OS-tan in terms of size, strength, age, intellect and power -- by a magnitude of hundreds -- is just a trivial thing. ^_____^;
QuoteI should have elaborated, that was a dreamy sigh.
*dreamy sigh*
Too late,... now you have to clean up after me. `v'
QuoteAlthough the current OpenBSD-tan design still lacks a little moe,... more moe is required until we can say with absolute certaint, that ALL BSD-tans are hawt. (Although I reckon she'd be a hit among the Goth/Punk crowd). ^___^
I always thought OpenBSD-tan was quite interesting, moe or not :D
An interesting note, the artist who designed OpenBSD-tan does mostly comic book-style artwork.
QuoteOkay, it's better.... ^__^
Certainly as good as it'll get without disrupting the realism. ^.^
I'm more into the idea that hair can be made to glow in the dark, and produce it's own combustion. ^____^'
It's not so much realism I don't want to disrupt....I just didn't want it to get too...busy...
We gotta remember, these are less-is-more hugging, worse-is-better loving Unixes we're dealing with :P
QuoteThat's something I'd love to learn myself. ^___^
*bows and grovels before Bella*
SENSEI!!!! ;^0^;
Maybe I'll open the sauce and you can have a look for yourself ;)
But the flames were done mostly with the freehand tool; it was just a matter of blurring to the right effect...
QuoteNope, she's not on there by a mile. But she is kinda like her court jester. `v'
*Slackware-chan perks up*
*Jester? Me?*
*Oh....well...I guess....everyone needs some comedy!*
*walks away proudly*
QuoteCorrect. ^^
Interesting to note that they were once mortal enemies, now best of friends. ^^
*pulls out handkerchief*
Awww, I love a story like that :)
That said, I wouldn't hold out to see Mac-tan and 95-tan buddying up O__O
QuoteCorrect. Not unlike said "purity" I mentioned before. Besides which, Miggy-chan is also extraordinarily brave, and first approached UNIX-sama in such a familiar manner that in other instances would be considered blasphemous. As if that weren't enough, both their experiences during the OS War era were not all that dissimilar.
And as if that weren't enough, UNIX-sama is well aware of how kindly Miggy-chan treated AMIX-tan.
And as if that weren't enough,... there's also something special about Miggy-chan that piques UNIX-sama's curiosity. ^.^
So it goes deeper than just liking Amiga-san's personality. But I totally forgot about her and AMIX-tan. As for that special quality of Miggy...what isn't special about her?
*dreamy sigh*
QuoteWHAAA?!! But she's the easiest. ^___^
Consider that EXEC-sama is perhaps one of THE OLDEST LIVING OS-tans in existence, and is perhaps the only person alive who can rightfully call the goddess UNIX-ta-- *quickly catches self* @__@
....
<___<
>___>
.....
*writes it down and flashes "UNIX-tan/UNIX-chan" at Bella before burning the evidence*
Even UNIX-sama feels obliged to respect her elders, and besides without CTSS-san as a grandmother figure, EXEC-sama is the closest she'll get to one.
Hey, if ya wanna go even more blasphemous...UNICS-chan! XD
And respect for her elders!? Oh wow! The many sides of Unix-sama's personalty I failed to notice though all the...book-throwing...!
QuoteBut of course. ^.^
Fufu... nah, but seriously, UNIX-sama does miss Plan9-tan even though neither will ever admit to that, so Inferno-chan is kind of like that missing conduit that would hopefully bring the two together one day. Unfortunately, Inferno-tan is pumped full of poison about her grandmother, so while she might've been curious about her grandmother as a child, she probably inherits a certain level of venom as she grows older.
Awww :..(
Added after a bit: Hey, I was just doing a bit of ancient OS research...I've come up with some neat new ideas for CTSS-sama, and I may be close to designing a DTSS-tan!
First off, here's a site for the DTSS Reborn project, which I guess made an emulator of DTSS to run on modern OSs, as well as info on the historic system.
http://www.dtss.org/index.php
And an interesting article circa 1968:
http://www.dtss.org/sciencearticle/pages/page02.html
What I know about DTSS:
-DTSS was born at Dartmouth College on born at 4:00 a.m., on May 1, 1963, in my native NH! So I guess a DTSS-tan would have to have some sly NH references that only I and a few other NH'ites would get XD
-DTSS was designed and maintained largely by students at the college, many with little or no programming experience; 80% of the students could use the system. So I think DTSS-tan would be a very friendly, teacher-like figure; not adverse to socializing with "laymen".
-DTSS ran on two GE computers separately, a strange and ingenious concept; one to execute programs, and one to handle communications. Somehow I wonder if a potential DTSS-tan should, it fact, be two separate characters; sisters whom cannot live without each other.
-DTSS has had some strange incidents (which I'm beginning to see is the norm for these oldies); when first started, it crashed every five minutes; it has electrocuted a squirrel; and the cheering of fans at a swimming competition crashed the system that was being used to record the results.
-DTSS was shut down on Dec. 31, 1999, and a year later a project to rewrite DTSS as an emulator was started. In 2004 the project succeeded in making an emulator for Mac and Windows.
Like I said before, I don't know if DTSS-tan would be better off as a single character, or as two that have some sort of strange psychic link to one another, and cannot exist separated (hey, like Marc and Siya!). Or, you could look at it like one sister's the mistress, the other a servant (as DTSS used machines with the rather unfortunate title of "master" and "slave"). I also wonder about "DTSS reborn", as it is not an OS as much as it's an emulator of the system. @___@
Maybe it'll make more sense in the light of day...
*falls asleep*
Oh, here's some of my updated preconcepts for CTSS-sama and WAITS-san:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/335.jpg)
I have given CTSS-sama an eastern Asian flare; if you have followed me to this point, I'll explain my rational...
I found this delightful little page, featuring programs made for CTSS rewritten as Java applets for our computers to read (or....something like that)
http://www.multicians.org/thvv/tvvjava.html?1
Well, I saw one of the programs was a computerized version of...the I Ching (the Book of Changes, a fortune telling text). I though, what the hell, CTSS-san's design isn't all that distinct, why not make her dress a bit Chinese?
"Say" is also quite funny; I suppose stuff like this would have been used by CTSS-san to cheer up Multics-chan (trust me, she would have needed it -__-)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/336.jpg)
WAIT-tan! I tried to make her look a little more hippie-ish and Bohemian....
I'm not sure whether DTSS-tan should be one or two people or such but she sure would be a really interesting character!
CTSS-tan and WAITS-tan are both so delightfully elegant!
I especially like WAITS-tan because she's a hippie and a rebel who challenged the norms of her time! :D
OMG!!!!!!!! @V@
Well,... I'm afraid to say I've all but expended my energy for the day.... so,...... if you'll permit me.......
*C-chan swoons at, among many things, CTSS-sama's dress*
*then turns into a symbolic object*
(http://www.backcountrygear.com/images/GoLiteSilverUmbrella.jpg)
I'm feeling awful conjectury...I might try to figure out a bit of Multics-sama's pre-70s backstory...
I won't lie. This is uncharted territory of epic sap proportions; and honestly, I'd rather not re-create the Great Sap Incident of 1919.
But I think there's more to Multics-sama's confident, strong personality than what meets the eye; as one could argue, the biggest threat ever posed to Multics-sama was actually herself; the very complexity that was her nature (somehow) nearly did her on many occasions, not even counting how she, quite directly, inspired the creation of Unix-sama.
This page details Multics history from 1962 to 2000 (or in this case, the late 60/early 70s period)
http://www.multicians.org/history.html#tag2
But let us look at some events from early Multics history:
-Project MAC was started in the early 60s; I suppose Multics existed in theory by the mid 60s, but wasn't self supporting until 67/68.
I really don't know when Multics-sama's birthday would be, then; but at her youngest age, I envision her as a preteen...
-One could argue Multics directly caused Unix to be made; it is not just system similarities that make the two OSs "related".
From what I gather, Bell Labs was so disgusted with where Multics was going (as in, the design growing too complicated and not working well), that they withdrew from the project. Ritche, Thomson, McIlroy and Ossanna were some of the people most involved in Multics, and they were also the group most involved with Unix. And as we all know, Unix had nary an iota of complexity when compared to its "mother".
If this isn't OS-tan sap potential, I don't know what is; but it's an interesting note, neither party (Multics or Unix-sama) may fully realize this.
-Some time in 68/69, Multics came close to being canceled, due to the project becoming too complicated, management costs, etc. ARPA suggested they kill the project. Eventually, even the group developing Multics agreed; it was one person, whom himself was going to try to sway the project toward cancellation, that started to see what knowledge would be lost if Multics was canceled (you can read the entire story, "2.3. Management", in that link I posted.
I'm supposing around this time, some pretty terrible psychological (and/or physical) problems befell Multics-sama. What, I don't even venture to guess; only that she at some point came within an inch of her life. What her mindset was like at this time, and how (or if) she fully recovered, I'm unsure about...
I have a few more ideas, but I don't want to cause a Sap-tastrophy. Or give C-Chan carpel tunnel syndrome from replying to all my babbling.
Uh...oh...
SAP THREAT LEVEL: ELEVATED
Melodramatic situations may be eminent
Okay,...
This is it.....
The moment of truth!!! ^0^
QuoteI always thought OpenBSD-tan was quite interesting, moe or not
An interesting note, the artist who designed OpenBSD-tan does mostly comic book-style artwork.
Don't get me wrong,... the drawing is good.
It's just not in the style that I like.
In fairness though,....
Except for anything with Giganta in it, I was never into comic books either. ^^;
I'd swear even the characters' eyebrows are drawn with massive bulging muscles. ^-^;
QuoteI just didn't want it to get too...busy...
We gotta remember, these are less-is-more hugging, worse-is-better loving Unixes we're dealing with :P
BAAAH!!! those are just the old skool, stuffy old Unices! ^-^
The day belongs to the new, hip, young generation of FOSS conscious *Nix-tans who know how to spice things up! They're flaming! (and in Inferno-chan's case, quite literally)
QuoteMaybe I'll open the sauce and you can have a look for yourself
Well as far as I can tell, I'll see it anyway. Gotta add those BSDs, no? ^___^
[after Operation Bella Boost ends and all...]
QuoteThat said, I wouldn't hold out to see Mac-tan and 95-tan buddying up O__O
I had a story idea where they did, but about 20 years into the future. A lot of very familiar faces would be leading lives in the quiet comfort of a more established Binteji Renmei.
QuoteSo it goes deeper than just liking Amiga-san's personality. But I totally forgot about her and AMIX-tan.
Yeah, I don't have much of an idea of how I want to make AMIX-tan. All I figure is that she arrives at Commodore to serve as a very snobbish mediator, but is quickly won over by the young Miggy-chan's personality. From then on until the end of her life, AMIX-tans serves as a very close friend to her.
QuoteAs for that special quality of Miggy...what isn't special about her?
I want to hint that UNIX-sama has a special way of, not necessarily seeing the future, but envisioning possible outcomes -- a very sophisticated form of Foresight that helps with her razor-sharp decision-making. She admires Miggy as a person, but is impressed by her latent magical power purposely locked by a Proprietary Barrier.
If it were to be released by a powerful-enough Open Sourcery spell,....
....
...UNIX-sama won't say,.... but apparently something beautiful will happen. ^_________^
QuoteHey, if ya wanna go even more blasphemous...UNICS-chan! XD
Oh, you're so dead. TvT
*hides in bomb shelter, waiting for the ghost Bella-sama to be turned into a ghost-of-a-ghost*
QuoteAnd respect for her elders!? Oh wow! The many sides of Unix-sama's personalty I failed to notice though all the...book-throwing...!
Well okay,.... respect for elders, except for the ones who were jerks (looks at GECOS-sama). ^_________^'
Don't get me wrong,... UNIX-sama is still UNIX-sama....
But in the case of EXEC-sama, she's not only very kind, but also very harmless. UNIX-sama simply wouldn't get anything out of treating them badly, so why expend the energy doing so when there are so many distraught children and grandchildren to punish?
QuoteAwww :..(
Oh no, I told you the UserSpace Gang was not ENTIRELY devoid of sap, now. ^^;
QuoteHey, I was just doing a bit of ancient OS research...I've come up with some neat new ideas for CTSS-sama, and I may be close to designing a DTSS-tan!
Aaaa! An old associate of CTSS-sama. ^___^
I tell you, you find the neatest old OSes.... -v-
QuoteWhat I know about DTSS:
-DTSS was born at Dartmouth College on born at 4:00 a.m., on May 1, 1963, in my native NH! So I guess a DTSS-tan would have to have some sly NH references that only I and a few other NH'ites would get XD
OMG. ^___^'
Oh yeah,... I can see DTSS-sama bringing out the Granite State pride in ya. ^v^
....
I take it she wouldn't like Vermont either? ^-^
Quote-DTSS was designed and maintained largely by students at the college, many with little or no programming experience; 80% of the students could use the system. So I think DTSS-tan would be a very friendly, teacher-like figure; not adverse to socializing with "laymen".
Hmmm,.... a very prehistoric form of Open Source? Not really, but I assume that at least among the students, they had to communicate openly with one another to coordinate the development.
Quote-DTSS has had some strange incidents (which I'm beginning to see is the norm for these oldies);
I harken back to the day of the old news reels showing [mostly unsuccessful] attempts at human-powered flying machines. ^.^;
Quotewhen first started, it crashed every five minutes;
A prehistoric Hacchan? ^v^;
Quoteit has electrocuted a squirrel;
Amiga-sama would certainly freak by that. @v@'
Quoteand the cheering of fans at a swimming competition crashed the system that was being used to record the results.
I take it DTSS-sama would startle easily. ^.^
Quote-DTSS was shut down on Dec. 31, 1999, and a year later a project to rewrite DTSS as an emulator was started. In 2004 the project succeeded in making an emulator for Mac and Windows.
So she lives on in a way, although perhaps nowhere near as powerful as she once may have been. ^___^
That's a very sweet tail,... I wonder if she'd make a good vintage-tan....
QuoteLike I said before, I don't know if DTSS-tan would be better off as a single character, or as two that have some sort of strange psychic link to one another, and cannot exist separated (hey, like Marc and Siya!). Or, you could look at it like one sister's the mistress, the other a servant (as DTSS used machines with the rather unfortunate title of "master" and "slave"). I also wonder about "DTSS reborn", as it is not an OS as much as it's an emulator of the system. @___@
If only because of that real-life naming scheme, I'd probably opt for the mistress/servant distinction. However, for extra sap, you can make modern-day DTSS-tan as just the Mistress (or at least a shadow of her former self).
And,..... I'm outta time.... ^^;
But hey, at least I don't have to turn into an umbrella. ^.^
We'll pick this up tomorrow,... I still need my healthy dose of NH sap. ^___^
QuoteOh, here's some of my updated preconcepts for CTSS-sama and WAITS-san:
I have given CTSS-sama an eastern Asian flare; if you have followed me to this point, I'll explain my rational...
I found this delightful little page, featuring programs made for CTSS rewritten as Java applets for our computers to read (or....something like that)
http://www.multicians.org/thvv/tvvjava.html?1
Well, I saw one of the programs was a computerized version of...the I Ching (the Book of Changes, a fortune telling text). I though, what the hell, CTSS-san's design isn't all that distinct, why not make her dress a bit Chinese?
"Say" is also quite funny; I suppose stuff like this would have been used by CTSS-san to cheer up Multics-chan (trust me, she would have needed it -__-)
I think that's a wonderful idea! Bearing in mind that Chinese culture stretches back a few thousand years, it'd be fitting for someone of her antiquity to wear somethign like that. It gives her more of an ancient "goddess" like look. ^__^
I must say, though, that CTSS-sama was born several decades before her time. Her kindness seems wasted on a generation of petty aristocracy. -v-
QuoteWAIT-tan! I tried to make her look a little more hippie-ish and Bohemian....
Oooh,... the hair loses some of that 60's flair that I liked, but overall not bad. I think this could work for our Beloved Bohemian. ^^
Still.....
...
*laments loss of PCLOS Gnu Ranch and corresponding inhabitants* ;^0^;
QuoteBut I think there's more to Multics-sama's confident, strong personality than what meets the eye; as one could argue, the biggest threat ever posed to Multics-sama was actually herself; the very complexity that was her nature (somehow) nearly did her on many occasions, not even counting how she, quite directly, inspired the creation of Unix-sama.
It wouldn't be the first or last time that someone's arrogance became his/her undoing. Sometimes when you're on the top of the food chain, you forget to check the writing on the wall every once in a while. ^^;
I would think that much of the success behind UNIX and its more simplistic approach stems from the fact that most businesses really don't need anything fancy. MULTICS insisted that businesses wanted BMWs, when all they really needed were 70's Volkswagen Beetles. UNIX-sama may have been inferior, but as long as the price was right and the job was done.... ^___^
QuoteThis page details Multics history from 1962 to 2000 (or in this case, the late 60/early 70s period)
http://www.multicians.org/history.html#tag2
Dear GAWDS, I have so much reading to catch up to, it's not even funny. T____________T;
WAH! Operation Bella Boost is gonna take a major hit because of it. ^^;
Quote-Project MAC was started in the early 60s; I suppose Multics existed in theory by the mid 60s, but wasn't self supporting until 67/68.
When those cases happen, I usually take it as MULTICS being a child in the mid-60's, and a full adult once she becomes self-supporting. I planned to do the same with 3.1-sama, who's still a child "in development" prior to 1990.
QuoteI really don't know when Multics-sama's birthday would be, then; but at her youngest age, I envision her as a preteen...
Given she was born complex, that sounds 'bout right. ^^
Quote-One could argue Multics directly caused Unix to be made; it is not just system similarities that make the two OSs "related".
From what I gather, Bell Labs was so disgusted with where Multics was going (as in, the design growing too complicated and not working well), that they withdrew from the project. Ritche, Thomson, McIlroy and Ossanna were some of the people most involved in Multics, and they were also the group most involved with Unix. And as we all know, Unix had nary an iota of complexity when compared to its "mother".
Funny how I automatically see a striking parallel with UNIX-sama and Plan 9-san. Guess it's true what they say that history is bound to repeat itself. ^^;
Quote-Some time in 68/69, Multics came close to being canceled, due to the project becoming too complicated, management costs, etc. ARPA suggested they kill the project. Eventually, even the group developing Multics agreed; it was one person, whom himself was going to try to sway the project toward cancellation, that started to see what knowledge would be lost if Multics was canceled (you can read the entire story, "2.3. Management", in that link I posted.
I'm supposing around this time, some pretty terrible psychological (and/or physical) problems befell Multics-sama. What, I don't even venture to guess; only that she at some point came within an inch of her life. What her mindset was like at this time, and how (or if) she fully recovered, I'm unsure about...
Well true to the aristocratic society of the time, I'm sure she would've secluded herself from public view to spare herself the shame of being seen in that state. But in her most vulnerable moments, surely she would've sought the presence of CTSS-sama at least, to talk in private about... this and that.
Considering that UNICS was being developed/released at around this time, it'd be of extra sappage to conjecture that perhaps she recovered after hearing news of her daughter. I mean sappage because much of the hardship she puts on the young girl may have been, in a small unconscous part, to allow her daughter to grow stronger. In the end she gets more than she bargains for of course -- she makes UNIX-sama powerful, at the cost of forfeiting her power and her only chance of becoming a true mother. But perhaps this was a fair trade for her, given her previous close encounter with death which would have deprived her of any viable legacy.
QuoteI have a few more ideas, but I don't want to cause a Sap-tastrophy. Or give C-Chan carpel tunnel syndrome from replying to all my babbling.
Pigs don't get Carpel Tunnel. However, all this typing DOES tenderize my forearms, which invites salivation from all kinds of evil people intending to cook me. TvT
QuoteSAP THREAT LEVEL: ELEVATED
Melodramatic situations may be eminent
Honestly, though, it doesn't really seem THAT sappy yet.... TvT
Come on,... crank up the maple..... I can take it. ^.^
QuoteBAAAH!!! those are just the old skool, stuffy old Unices! ^-^
The day belongs to the new, hip, young generation of FOSS conscious *Nix-tans who know how to spice things up! They're flaming! (and in Inferno-chan's case, quite literally)
....except for Plan9 and Slackware :P
(two OSs which...supposedly, for the latter...follow the Worse is Better approach)
QuoteWell as far as I can tell, I'll see it anyway. Gotta add those BSDs, no? ^___^
[after Operation Bella Boost ends and all...]
Oh, yeah!
QuoteI had a story idea where they did, but about 20 years into the future. A lot of very familiar faces would be leading lives in the quiet comfort of a more established Binteji Renmei.
Oh, I can see that meeting...
95: Hey, so I tried to wipe out your entire people, and succeeded in destroying most of your culture, but that's don't mean we can't be friends!
Mac: Well, I led a resurgence that made your kin second-class from a consumer viewpoint, so, sounds fair to me!
But, the idea of coming up with future stories is...kinda interesting...! I'll admit I've had thoughts of what might happen...
*imagines XP-tan after she gets shamelessly booted from the family by ungrateful newcomers*
*A brief stint with the A$C, hangin' with the open source types and befriending their program-tans, maybe running off to Grandma for some help....*
*imagination runs wild @___@*
QuoteI want to hint that UNIX-sama has a special way of, not necessarily seeing the future, but envisioning possible outcomes -- a very sophisticated form of Foresight that helps with her razor-sharp decision-making. She admires Miggy as a person, but is impressed by her latent magical power purposely locked by a Proprietary Barrier.
If it were to be released by a powerful-enough Open Sourcery spell,....
....
...UNIX-sama won't say,.... but apparently something beautiful will happen. ^_________^
Foresight! Shape-shifting! Speaking foreign tongues! The human emotion called "kindness"! What power does the Goddess not possess!
But that's gonna have to be one heck of an Open Sourcery spell -__-
QuoteOh, you're so dead. TvT
*hides in bomb shelter, waiting for the ghost Bella-sama to be turned into a ghost-of-a-ghost*
Nah, Plan 9-sama was impressed so much by my depiction of her, she necromanced me back into the world of the living :P
*notices I'm dead...again...*
Uh...oh.....
QuoteWell okay,.... respect for elders, except for the ones who were jerks (looks at GECOS-sama). ^_________^'
Don't get me wrong,... UNIX-sama is still UNIX-sama....
Now, now, GECOS-sama may have hated Multics-sama, meddled in family affairs, etc....but in her defense, she was simply trying to secure her power...or whatever...
QuoteOMG. ^___^'
Oh yeah,... I can see DTSS-sama bringing out the Granite State pride in ya. ^v^
....
I take it she wouldn't like Vermont either? ^-^
Nope :P
QuoteHmmm,.... a very prehistoric form of Open Source? Not really, but I assume that at least among the students, they had to communicate openly with one another to coordinate the development.
Perhaps...but I think Unix-sama is much more likely. I hear tell that the Unix Source Code was bounced all over hell and creation (as a means of studying the system, as the source was often the only type of "documentation") until the mid 70's when AT&T put their foot down. Even then people continued to photocopy the book containing the code...
QuoteAmiga-sama would certainly freak by that. @v@'
QuoteI take it DTSS-sama would startle easily. ^.^
Just what I thought!
QuoteIf only because of that real-life naming scheme, I'd probably opt for the mistress/servant distinction. However, for extra sap, you can make modern-day DTSS-tan as just the Mistress (or at least a shadow of her former self).
I've been leaning that way, too. I also think that Mistress DTSS-sama may not be able to communicate too well, relying on her servant to speak for her (as one machine did the processing, and the other was used for communication)...
QuoteI think that's a wonderful idea! Bearing in mind that Chinese culture stretches back a few thousand years, it'd be fitting for someone of her antiquity to wear somethign like that. It gives her more of an ancient "goddess" like look. ^__^
I must say, though, that CTSS-sama was born several decades before her time. Her kindness seems wasted on a generation of petty aristocracy. -v-
I suppose...but there was quite a group fighting to keep the MIT CTSS machines running...
QuoteIt wouldn't be the first or last time that someone's arrogance became his/her undoing. Sometimes when you're on the top of the food chain, you forget to check the writing on the wall every once in a while. ^^;
I would think that much of the success behind UNIX and its more simplistic approach stems from the fact that most businesses really don't need anything fancy. MULTICS insisted that businesses wanted BMWs, when all they really needed were 70's Volkswagen Beetles. UNIX-sama may have been inferior, but as long as the price was right and the job was done.... ^___^
That's so funny! I've often compared Unix and Multics to an army Jeep and a Rolls Royce XD
Which one do you think would be more useful?
QuoteWhen those cases happen, I usually take it as MULTICS being a child in the mid-60's, and a full adult once she becomes self-supporting. I planned to do the same with 3.1-sama, who's still a child "in development" prior to 1990.
Yeah, most timelines date Multics to 65...but it wasn't quite in working order until 68.
QuoteGiven she was born complex, that sounds 'bout right. ^^
Okay...cause somehow, I can't imagine her as a helpless child o__O
QuoteWell true to the aristocratic society of the time, I'm sure she would've secluded herself from public view to spare herself the shame of being seen in that state. But in her most vulnerable moments, surely she would've sought the presence of CTSS-sama at least, to talk in private about... this and that.
Oh yes, I'm sure CTSS-sama would have been the only one who never gave up on Multics-sama. I'm sure she would have seen Multics-sama as the daughter she never had, and would have treated her as such. I see them as having a very close relationship for the day.
QuoteConsidering that UNICS was being developed/released at around this time, it'd be of extra sappage to conjecture that perhaps she recovered after hearing news of her daughter. I mean sappage because much of the hardship she puts on the young girl may have been, in a small unconscous part, to allow her daughter to grow stronger. In the end she gets more than she bargains for of course -- she makes UNIX-sama powerful, at the cost of forfeiting her power and her only chance of becoming a true mother. But perhaps this was a fair trade for her, given her previous close encounter with death which would have deprived her of any viable legacy.
That could very well be! I tell you, the early life of Multics-sama is quite complicated and many-sided, hey, much like the system itself. And it doesn't help how tightly entangled the saga of Unix-sama coincides with Multics-sama's.
Although it would have been undoubtedly shocking for Multics-sama (and Unix-sama, for that matter), to see each other; as, alike as they may be, they had been designed and trained in ways that made them polar opposites. Sure, Unix-sama may carry a complex about being quite plain compared to her mother, but who's to say Multics-sama didn't feel some self-hatred? All that complexity that essentially made her....her....turned out to be terrible liability. And maybe she had just a grain of envy for daughter, who lived unfettered by such shackles...at least until their encounter, when Multics-sama shed some of that power and it was transfered to Unix-sama.
Not too long ago I would have thought Multics-sama was an arrogant aristocrat, but it seems life was not so easy for her and for a long while she was shunned herself by the technical community.
In short, almost from birth Multics-sama was made to carry responsibilities she couldn't handle; far too many grandiose hopes and promises were made about her, and she felt obligated to fulfill these at the cost of her heath, and almost her life. I suppose, there came a point when she could comfortably carry out her duties, but it was not so long afterward that Unix-sama proved she could do so better.
SAP THREAT LEVEL: HIGH
High risk of Sap; ready your pancakes, and Kleenexes
Oh, and I should also mention, Yesterday I had a bizarre encounter with the 70s! With RSTS, to be exact:
http://www.woffordwitch.com/default.asp
Apparently, RSTS/E is available for non-commercial use via Telnet. A similar program exists with *schoolgirlish squeal* VMS!!!
At this point, you may be wondering what good can be gained by remotely connecting with an OS, using a command line interface that makes a GUI hugger like I more than a bit intimidated. I dunno, but I guess it's neat to say you've communicated with an historic OS...
Even if you don't get far past the "PLEASE SAY HELLO" prompt XD
*Discos-out to go stalk VMS...*
Wow! Lots of sappyness! More than I can shake a stack of flapjacks at! *sniffle* Reading your latest conjecture made me think different about Multics-sama. How she seemed like an abusive mother and stuffy aristocrat at a first glance... Wouldn't have guessed that her life (before Unix was around) was so difficult and that she was her own demise!
I am also extremely curious about that story idea of Mac-tan and 95-tan buddying up 20 years in the future! How and shat happens then, and who are those 'familiar faces' in the Binteeji Renmei?
QuoteReading your latest conjecture made me think different about Multics-sama. How she seemed like an abusive mother and stuffy aristocrat at a first glance... Wouldn't have guessed that her life (before Unix was around) was so difficult and that she was her own demise!
Yeah, I used to think the same thing about Multics-sama. But reading about how many people thought Multics would never be built (developers included), and how to this day many think it failed dismally made me think otherwise...
I almost forgot to mention, for quite a while her caretakers spent huge amounts of money trying to keep the young Multics-sama in a good state of mind (because, especially in it's early history, Multics used TONS of money in resources). They would have dressed her in the best clothes, given her the best food, set her in the best accommodations, and had people waiting on her hand and foot. While she went along with this at first, she soon realized that none of this could make up for her own personal problems, and started to reject some of this treatment...
But to counteract this sap, I have a few fun facts!
-Like, did you know Multics-sama is fluent in Latin? (Mostly just because Multics, on one occasion, gave a Latin error message)
http://www.multicians.org/hodie-natus-est.html
It would be her idea of a joke to start talking in Latin to her Multicians and leave them wondering just what the heck she's saying XD
-And while her anthropomorphism is the snowy owl, I think her favorite animal is the eagle. Besides there being a "Multics Man" comic strip where his "sidekick" is the FSO eagle:
http://www.multicians.org/mulimg/multicsman.gif
I think an eagle would be an animal Multics-sama would admire...they symbolize power, pride, freedom, and fierceness...
Another thing I just noticed, however, about that comic is that there's also Daemon sidekicks (shown as...WTF? A winged hand and eye?!). I suppose "daemons" originated with Multics...I've done Unix daemon-tans, now I wanna do Multics daemon-tans (and make them...erm...not creepy...)
-I should also note I see Multics-sama as having a very sweet, frolicsome, almost child-like streak, when interacting with those she is fond of. While very shy as a youth, and quite mentally unable to handle having too many people around her, with the tutoring of CTSS-sama, later in life she was spectacularly social.
(At first, Multics could barely handle 1/3 of a user. Later on, it could handle thousands)
QuoteI am also extremely curious about that story idea of Mac-tan and 95-tan buddying up 20 years in the future! How and shat happens then, and who are those 'familiar faces' in the Binteeji Renmei?
I guess...a lot of our current OS-tans...?
*edited to add some more fun facts*
*stares dumbstruck at Tidal Wave O' Text 'n' Sap*
Wow,.... that's enough to drown even z/OS-sama. @v@'
I know that you know what comes next. ^^;
....
But don't worry, cause I'll actually be back with the remainder of your present. You'll swoon so much by its greatness, you'll forget all about my hyperinflationary rainchecks. ^^;
*C-chan quietly scurries off*
Quote*stares dumbstruck at Tidal Wave O' Text 'n' Sap*
Wow,.... that's enough to drown even z/OS-sama. @v@'
I know that you know what comes next. ^^;
....
But don't worry, cause I'll actually be back with the remainder of your present. You'll swoon so much by its greatness, you'll forget all about my hyperinflationary rainchecks. ^^;
*C-chan quietly scurries off*
Uh...oh...this raincheck better not bounce. Lest I get my raincheck collection agency after you :P
No worries, I have plenty of funds now.... ^__^
SURPRISE!!!!!!!! ^v^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/normal_OpenVMS_final.png)
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/OpenVMS_final.png
And now that I'm done with Operation Bella Boost, time to move on to you-know-what. ^.^
*uber-mega-glomp*
This is such a gorgeous picture! There's nothing I can say that will do this picture justice, but I'll try...The pose is spectacular, her expression is perfect, I think you've really captured her attitude; and I love what you did with her hair.
Her outfit is stunning, from the excellent shading and highlighting (which makes a great leather effect), to the small details like the buckles, straps and knife belt. The cleaver is beautifully done, I love how you worked the reflections into it. And the knife or sword in her right hand is a nice touch, too.
As if VMS-sama herself isn't perfect enough, you made a very imaginative background, too. I'm really loving the sharks...especially the grimacing one on the right heehee. The reflections in the water and on the sharks are great, and the way you worked reflections into the rest of the picture draw everything together.
The steps and neon lighting are a very futuristic touch, that, as I've said before, lends the HQ a certain cool secret lair feel. The beam on the left, with the CIOST symbol and the...rope lighting(?) actually reminds me, a bit, of a modern mainframe.
I know this is biased of me, but I'd say this is the best...and my favorite...of your works. It does a great justice to one of my favorite characters, and one of the last great OSs, hehe. Thank you for a great birthday gift, that was certainly worth the wait!
Everything about that picture is pure awesome and so beautifully well-done! I am nearly speechless but I shall try...
The futuristic setting, the rendering of the water, the sharks (I especially like the one that looks like it's smiling!), VMS-sama (who is so cool herself!), and all of the reflections, shading and highlighting (such remarkable attention to all those details!)
Thank you Bella-sama, Aurora-hime, for all the kind words. ^___^
I will reply to you ladies, but over at my thread and probably tomorrow,... cause after all, I still have a lot of sap to make syrup out of. ^.^
*starts typing*
Added after 45 minutes: Quote....except for Plan9 and Slackware :P
(two OSs which...supposedly, for the latter...follow the Worse is Better approach)
And not surprisingly, both OS-tans....... ARE OLD!!!!!!!!!!! >v<
Now take young, hip, Generation "Z"sters like Puppy-chan, the Damn Small-tans, and the like! ^.^
QuoteOh, I can see that meeting...
95: Hey, so I tried to wipe out your entire people, and succeeded in destroying most of your culture, but that's don't mean we can't be friends!
Mac: Well, I led a resurgence that made your kin second-class from a consumer viewpoint, so, sounds fair to me!
Yeah, in brainstorming that idea, I project that the Macs are eventually able to overtake their former rivals. However, this is not for market dominance anymore, since the future inevitably falls to Open Sourcerers. ^___^
QuoteBut, the idea of coming up with future stories is...kinda interesting...! I'll admit I've had thoughts of what might happen...
*imagines XP-tan after she gets shamelessly booted from the family by ungrateful newcomers*
*A brief stint with the A$C, hangin' with the open source types and befriending their program-tans, maybe running off to Grandma for some help....*
*imagination runs wild @___@*
Yeah, don't forget your little imaginative run with LULTICS and stuff. ^.^
Indeed, while projecting future stories takes up much resources away from present-day stuff, you have to admit it's kinda fun. ^___^
Other interesting projections I've thought of in my scenario:
- UNIX-sama eventually cedes her thrown to Linux-sama, and retires to life along wtth the Vintage-tans.
- During particular hard times, some of the escaping Windows-tans do get helped out by VMS-sama, where the truth is finally revealed. While they may lose a dynasty, they gain a hidden heritage.
- OS/2-sama never does get Open Sauced, but eComstation-tan does (or at least partially) and is able to carry on the lineage. Meanwhile, OS/2 retires and sits at the same table with Mac-tan and 95-tan. ^.^'
- The Mainframe Guild has been changed dramatically thanks to the Linuces, and has opened up to the rest of the world in a highly-coordinated effort to become fast, small, efficient and power-saving. The days of imposing, hulking, close-minded giants is a footnote in history.
- The Binteji Renmei grows in size, membership and influene -- coupled with strong ties to the Linux Federation and the prestige of some of its high-grade members (e.g., UNIX-sama), it is literally a forced to be reckoned with. A consciousness of "old is beautiful" is able to make its small renaissance around the world.
- Many more open source competitors have emerged over the years since (including one led by Inferno-chan), but the nature of things forces a regress to the age of chivalric battles.
- Amiga-sama is also able to become open-sourced finally. Despite her age, she is able to get married, form a proper family, and use her powers to help people like never before.
QuoteForesight! Shape-shifting! Speaking foreign tongues! The human emotion called "kindness"! What power does the Goddess not possess!
Fufu... it'd be insulting to assume she DIDN'T have at least those little tricks. ^.^;
Otherwise, MULTICS-sama would've yanked that pole out of her hands LOOOOOOOOOONG ago. ^^;
QuoteBut that's gonna have to be one heck of an Open Sourcery spell -__-
Oh it is. Complete with a play of "Cyberbird" when it happens. ^^
QuoteNah, Plan 9-sama was impressed so much by my depiction of her, she necromanced me back into the world of the living :P
*notices I'm dead...again...*
Uh...oh.....
LOL x2 ^V^
QuotePerhaps...but I think Unix-sama is much more likely. I hear tell that the Unix Source Code was bounced all over hell and creation (as a means of studying the system, as the source was often the only type of "documentation") until the mid 70's when AT&T put their foot down. Even then people continued to photocopy the book containing the code...
You're right. ^.^
I suppose then that it wasn't hard for Bell Labs to eventually open sauce the earlier Unix builds. After all,... EVERYONE had a copy of it by now. ^____^;
Quote've been leaning that way, too. I also think that Mistress DTSS-sama may not be able to communicate too well, relying on her servant to speak for her (as one machine did the processing, and the other was used for communication)...
Oh then that would be extra sad. Can we say "Apple Lisa", people..... ;___;
QuoteThat's so funny! I've often compared Unix and Multics to an army Jeep and a Rolls Royce XD
Which one do you think would be more useful?
Well that depends. ^.^
For trips to the Gentleman's Club,... Rolls Royce.
For everything else (including staying alive after a crash).....
....
I rest my case. ^^;
QuoteOh yes, I'm sure CTSS-sama would have been the only one who never gave up on Multics-sama. I'm sure she would have seen Multics-sama as the daughter she never had, and would have treated her as such. I see them as having a very close relationship for the day.
That lovely second picture of CTSS-sama looks even better now. ^________^
That's it! I'm gonna compile the old lady this instant! ^0^
QuoteAlthough it would have been undoubtedly shocking for Multics-sama (and Unix-sama, for that matter), to see each other; as, alike as they may be, they had been designed and trained in ways that made them polar opposites. Sure, Unix-sama may carry a complex about being quite plain compared to her mother, but who's to say Multics-sama didn't feel some self-hatred? All that complexity that essentially made her....her....turned out to be terrible liability. And maybe she had just a grain of envy for daughter, who lived unfettered by such shackles...at least until their encounter, when Multics-sama shed some of that power and it was transfered to Unix-sama.
That is an amazing insight. ^___^
And just to carry the point, there are times when UNIX-sama does consider that power to be a curse. She MUST keep the world running and surveyed at all times, she cannot die, and she always has to deal with envious eyes and the myriad ghosts of her past. I think the recent Beowulf movie illustrates that feeling quite well.
Sometimes she secretly yearns for the days when life was so much simpler.....
QuoteNot too long ago I would have thought Multics-sama was an arrogant aristocrat, but it seems life was not so easy for her and for a long while she was shunned herself by the technical community.
Well she certainly HAD to behave like an arrogant aristocrat to earn the respect of the most powerful families of her day. I imagine that as she subsequently lost her power and her lands, the two-facedness of her so-called acquaintenances revealed itself, and she was forced (for a while) to endure the same kind of social stigma that UNIX-sama put up with during her rise to power.
QuoteIn short, almost from birth Multics-sama was made to carry responsibilities she couldn't handle; far too many grandiose hopes and promises were made about her, and she felt obligated to fulfill these at the cost of her heath, and almost her life. I suppose, there came a point when she could comfortably carry out her duties, but it was not so long afterward that Unix-sama proved she could do so better.
In a way then it is true that her fall from power was both traumatic and yet strangely therapeutic. In the original story I wrote up -- featuring the two meeting together for the last time in Northern Canada -- I pictured MULTICS-sama as being near-death, but eventually able to converse with UNIX-sama about pleasant small talk, the kind of things they never treated themselves with before. In the context of what you just said, I can say that this is MULTICS-sama after she has finally sought peace with herself. The last thing she would need is to feel like a mother again, which she was able to do in the last few moments of her life.
QuoteApparently, RSTS/E is available for non-commercial use via Telnet. A similar program exists with *schoolgirlish squeal* VMS!!!
I'll match that squeal!!! ^v^
*squeals like pig having his tail pulled*
*follows up with Marge Simpson-like nagging sound*
QuoteAt this point, you may be wondering what good can be gained by remotely connecting with an OS, using a command line interface that makes a GUI hugger like I more than a bit intimidated. I dunno, but I guess it's neat to say you've communicated with an historic OS...
Even if you don't get far past the "PLEASE SAY HELLO" prompt XD
*Discos-out to go stalk VMS...*
Fufu.... I betcha Bella-sama has new motivation to try that thing again after seeing my present. ^____^
Good for you though....
Don't be intimidated,... it's Grandma NT, after all. ^____^
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In any event, kinda late so I'll have to end it here, Was fun, though. ^.^
Quote from: "C-Chan"
Other interesting projections I've thought of in my scenario:
- UNIX-sama eventually cedes her thrown to Linux-sama, and retires to life along wtth the Vintage-tans.
- During particular hard times, some of the escaping Windows-tans do get helped out by VMS-sama, where the truth is finally revealed. While they may lose a dynasty, they gain a hidden heritage.
- OS/2-sama never does get Open Sauced, but eComstation-tan does (or at least partially) and is able to carry on the lineage. Meanwhile, OS/2 retires and sits at the same table with Mac-tan and 95-tan. ^.^'
- The Mainframe Guild has been changed dramatically thanks to the Linuces, and has opened up to the rest of the world in a highly-coordinated effort to become fast, small, efficient and power-saving. The days of imposing, hulking, close-minded giants is a footnote in history.
- The Binteji Renmei grows in size, membership and influene -- coupled with strong ties to the Linux Federation and the prestige of some of its high-grade members (e.g., UNIX-sama), it is literally a forced to be reckoned with. A consciousness of "old is beautiful" is able to make its small renaissance around the world.
- Many more open source competitors have emerged over the years since (including one led by Inferno-chan), but the nature of things forces a regress to the age of chivalric battles.
- Amiga-sama is also able to become open-sourced finally. Despite her age, she is able to get married, form a proper family, and use her powers to help people like never before.
UNIX in the Binteji Renmei?! 95-tan able to get along with Mac-tan (or the remaining Mac-tans)?! OPEN SOURCE AMIGA?!?! I think Heck would have also frozen over!...
But gosh those future scenarios sure would be great!
Uhm... sure sure as heck don't understand what this is all about (aside of the fact that this is a discussion thread about "random" OS-tan stuff)... but I sure laughed a lot. I guess I would be letting myself read up more on this before I made any coherent comment on anythng here.
QuoteThe futuristic setting, the rendering of the water, the sharks (I especially like the one that looks like it's smiling!), VMS-sama (who is so cool herself!), and all of the reflections, shading and highlighting (such remarkable attention to all those details!)
I love that smiling shark too :)
QuoteAnd not surprisingly, both OS-tans....... ARE OLD!!!!!!!!!!! >v<
Now take young, hip, Generation "Z"sters like Puppy-chan, the Damn Small-tans, and the like! ^.^
Oh yeah, Slackware-chan was the first Linux distro (but it went by SLS back then)...
But I gotta tell DSL and Puppy-tan...for hipsters, they sure have old skool retro GUIs ;)
QuoteYeah, in brainstorming that idea, I project that the Macs are eventually able to overtake their former rivals. However, this is not for market dominance anymore, since the future inevitably falls to Open Sourcerers. ^___^
If you ask me, the Macs have already taken the cake for the most popular computer/OS. Just about everyone, computer-oriented or not, knows something about them, and a great deal like them. Even if they aren't quite sure what exactly they like, there's just something about Macs that intrigue people :P
As for them Open Sourcerers....they have a ways to go...
QuoteYeah, don't forget your little imaginative run with LULTICS and stuff. ^.^
Indeed, while projecting future stories takes up much resources away from present-day stuff, you have to admit it's kinda fun. ^___^
Ahhhh, Lultics. The revolutionary Swedish OS that will be made by...Titus Lorvalds?
Ooooh, you pose some interesting possible future scenarios...I'll look at them one by one...
Quote- UNIX-sama eventually cedes her thrown to Linux-sama, and retires to life along wtth the Vintage-tans.
Aw, handing the reins over to Linux-sama I can deal with...but Unix-sama running off to the Vintage-tans...? Noooooooo....!!! For thine Goddess shall reign forever, and ever, and ever!
Quote- During particular hard times, some of the escaping Windows-tans do get helped out by VMS-sama, where the truth is finally revealed. While they may lose a dynasty, they gain a hidden heritage.
Oh yeah...when M$ trashes NT beyond repair (which may have already happened) and decides to ste...I mean to say, implement, a Unix-like system, I can see the NT clan running off to Grandma. After all, there always was something about NT-san and VMS-sama nobody could quite put their finger on :P
Quote- OS/2-sama never does get Open Sauced, but eComstation-tan does (or at least partially) and is able to carry on the lineage. Meanwhile, OS/2 retires and sits at the same table with Mac-tan and 95-tan. ^.^'
A Mac, a 95 and an OS/2 walk into a bar....
Quote- The Mainframe Guild has been changed dramatically thanks to the Linuces, and has opened up to the rest of the world in a highly-coordinated effort to become fast, small, efficient and power-saving. The days of imposing, hulking, close-minded giants is a footnote in history.
Ahhh, yes, the gentle Linux mainframes ^_^
Quote- The Binteji Renmei grows in size, membership and influene -- coupled with strong ties to the Linux Federation and the prestige of some of its high-grade members (e.g., UNIX-sama), it is literally a forced to be reckoned with. A consciousness of "old is beautiful" is able to make its small renaissance around the world.
Considering the number of people who believe the lifespan for a computer or OS is no more than a few years, I wouldn't put money on it T__T
Quote- Many more open source competitors have emerged over the years since (including one led by Inferno-chan), but the nature of things forces a regress to the age of chivalric battles.
Chivalric battles...? Oooookay....
Quote- Amiga-sama is also able to become open-sourced finally. Despite her age, she is able to get married, form a proper family, and use her powers to help people like never before.
Married...!?!?!?! Children?!?!?! Miggy-sama?!?!?!
Would be nice.... I'm not holding my breath, though.
QuoteYou're right. ^.^
I suppose then that it wasn't hard for Bell Labs to eventually open sauce the earlier Unix builds. After all,... EVERYONE had a copy of it by now. ^____^;
Heehee...
QuoteOh then that would be extra sad. Can we say "Apple Lisa", people..... ;___;
Yes, but I always though Lisa-tan chose not to talk. I think DTSS-tan would be physically unable : |
QuoteWell that depends. ^.^
For trips to the Gentleman's Club,... Rolls Royce.
For everything else (including staying alive after a crash).....
....
I rest my case. ^^;
Exactly :P
QuoteThat is an amazing insight. ^___^
And just to carry the point, there are times when UNIX-sama does consider that power to be a curse. She MUST keep the world running and surveyed at all times, she cannot die, and she always has to deal with envious eyes and the myriad ghosts of her past. I think the recent Beowulf movie illustrates that feeling quite well.
Sometimes she secretly yearns for the days when life was so much simpler.....
Yay! Amazing insight! Do I get a prize?
And if you want to carry the point
even further, perhaps Multics-sama's loss of power to Unix-sama was some ill-guided attempt, even subconsciously, to rid herself of that power. Perhaps Multics-sama placed it on Unix-sama as some kind of hindrance; assuming that it would sabotage her daughter as it impeded herself...
QuoteWell she certainly HAD to behave like an arrogant aristocrat to earn the respect of the most powerful families of her day. I imagine that as she subsequently lost her power and her lands, the two-facedness of her so-called acquaintenances revealed itself, and she was forced (for a while) to endure the same kind of social stigma that UNIX-sama put up with during her rise to power.
That's true. But I do suppose the worse time for her, physically and mentally, would have been her early life (as I said before, many thought Multics would never be built). Even after loosing her power things were fairly steady, with the occasional skirmish (GECOS-san, corporate higher-ups) here and there...I don't think events would have taken a turn for the worse until the late 80s though the 90s (as that's when systems started being shut down).
QuoteIn a way then it is true that her fall from power was both traumatic and yet strangely therapeutic. In the original story I wrote up -- featuring the two meeting together for the last time in Northern Canada -- I pictured MULTICS-sama as being near-death, but eventually able to converse with UNIX-sama about pleasant small talk, the kind of things they never treated themselves with before. In the context of what you just said, I can say that this is MULTICS-sama after she has finally sought peace with herself. The last thing she would need is to feel like a mother again, which she was able to do in the last few moments of her life.
Exactly. I think Multics-sama would have had a fear of dying alone and forgotten (a la CTSS-sama), so perhaps realizing that somebody...her daughter...remembered her would have somehow lifted her spirits, even though she knew she was finally going to meet her fate -___-
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QuoteFufu.... I betcha Bella-sama has new motivation to try that thing again after seeing my present. ^____^
Good for you though....
Don't be intimidated,... it's Grandma NT, after all. ^____^
Oh, it's not VMS I'm scared of...it's the VMS fans...
http://deathrow.vistech.net/
QuoteUhm... sure sure as heck don't understand what this is all about (aside of the fact that this is a discussion thread about "random" OS-tan stuff)... but I sure laughed a lot. I guess I would be letting myself read up more on this before I made any coherent comment on anythng here.
Just a thread to discuss ideas and theories for characters and backstories that wouldn't work anywhere else...In particular, we've been discussing the fascinating and multi-layered saga of Multics (and Unix, for that matter), one of the most ancient and influential systems...
So.... if I come out of random and decide to call on forth "grandma ENIAC" into the thread... would not blow up anything in particular? lol?
QuoteSo.... if I come out of random and decide to call on forth "grandma ENIAC" into the thread... would not blow up anything in particular? lol?
Well no, but we'd just look at you strange. 0v0
After all, the current OS-tan "grandmother's" hail from the generation living predominantly in the 70's, with the great and great great grandmother's in the 60's. So ENIAC-hime would definitely be no "grandma".......... she'd be a fossil! ^>^
And Zuse-hime, AtanasoffBerry-hime, and my old wartime sweetheart Colossus-hime would be even OLDER than her. ^____^;
We could go back even further to more prehistoric computational machine-tans if you'd like, but we're already stretching it with these machines (no computer before GMOS had an Operating System).
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In any event, still have tons of [Bella] stuff to reply to here, so I'll be right back. ^__^
QuoteSo.... if I come out of random and decide to call on forth "grandma ENIAC" into the thread... would not blow up anything in particular? lol?
QuoteWell no, but we'd just look at you strange. 0v0
After all, the current OS-tan "grandmother's" hail from the generation living predominantly in the 70's, with the great and great great grandmother's in the 60's. So ENIAC-hime would definitely be no "grandma".......... she'd be a fossil! ^>^
And Zuse-hime, AtanasoffBerry-hime, and my old wartime sweetheart Colossus-hime would be even OLDER than her. ^____^;
We could go back even further to more prehistoric computational machine-tans if you'd like, but we're already stretching it with these machines (no computer before GMOS had an Operating System).
Now, now, I've occasionally wondered if a ENIAC-tan would be designed. Certainly wouldn't be an OS-tan per se, but we've designed hardware-tans before.
Somehow I see her as being very ancient looking...ancient Greek...and either as some kind of oracle, or perhaps an warrior type as ENIAC was used by the Army. She would, of course, have a group of followers, mostly women at that (as ENIAC was probably one of the few computers to ever be programmed mostly by women).
QuoteIn any event, still have tons of [Bella] stuff to reply to here, so I'll be right back. ^__^
Ooooh, don't forget to take a look at my Multics-sama fun facts a few posts back. If only to keep from an overdose of Sap :P
QuoteNow, now, I've occasionally wondered if a ENIAC-tan would be designed. Certainly wouldn't be an OS-tan per se, but we've designed hardware-tans before.
Oh not saying she shouldn't... just saying she's OLD as molasses! BWAHAHA!!! ^v^
But no seriously,... I've thought of 101 ways to draw Colossus-hime, and most of them are not PG-rated. -v-;
I'd say we have to look FAAAAAAAAR back beyond the Greeks for her design. Say,.... have you ever read
Clan of the Cave Bear? `v'
QuoteOoooh, don't forget to take a look at my Multics-sama fun facts a few posts back. If only to keep from an overdose of Sap :P
BWAHAHAA!!!! You think that I?!!!!!!!! C-CHAN?!!!!!! ...Am going to MINIMIZE the amount of sap in ANYTHING?!!!!!!!!!!! 0v0
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That is so cute... ^.^
*pats Bella-san*
But yeah, I'll reply to it soon. Just gotta get a few things done here and there.
Added after 3 hours 55 minutes: Alright, let's get this show on the road!!! ^v^
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QuoteWow! Lots of sappyness! More than I can shake a stack of flapjacks at! *sniffle* Reading your latest conjecture made me think different about Multics-sama. How she seemed like an abusive mother and stuffy aristocrat at a first glance... Wouldn't have guessed that her life (before Unix was around) was so difficult and that she was her own demise!
I do have to admit, MULTICS-sama has come along way since my 10-cent story. ^.^
QuoteI am also extremely curious about that story idea of Mac-tan and 95-tan buddying up 20 years in the future! How and shat happens then, and who are those 'familiar faces' in the Binteeji Renmei?
Oh, already said a couple of mine. ^___^
QuoteYeah, I used to think the same thing about Multics-sama. But reading about how many people thought Multics would never be built (developers included), and how to this day many think it failed dismally made me think otherwise...
You know, the story also has some parallels with Apple Lisa as well.
Sure it was built, but it was too complicated and expensive for its own good, and even many within Apple were sure it would fail. And ultimately, she succumbed to her lighter, cheaper, simpler sister
. ^___^
Course, Lisa-san is still alive, though. -v-;
QuoteI almost forgot to mention, for quite a while her caretakers spent huge amounts of money trying to keep the young Multics-sama in a good state of mind (because, especially in it's early history, Multics used TONS of money in resources). They would have dressed her in the best clothes, given her the best food, set her in the best accommodations, and had people waiting on her hand and foot. While she went along with this at first, she soon realized that none of this could make up for her own personal problems, and started to reject some of this treatment...
Well if you think about it, that kind of life is a bit monotonous. Normal-minded people at least get bored with monotony, and secretly crave for something different and adventurous to save them from being physically and mentally "caged up". The girl from Titanic, for instance. ^^
Quote-Like, did you know Multics-sama is fluent in Latin? (Mostly just because Multics, on one occasion, gave a Latin error message)
BWAHAHA!!!!!! ^v^
Well that's no surprise, though.... ALL young, stuffy aristocrats are made to learn that dead ol' language. ^.^
In my own schooling, I was told I could learn either latin, ancient greek or Japanese. Even though this was long before my Anime era, I still wanted Japanese either way because it seemed most,... relevant. ^___^
But surprise surprise....... I got Latin.... T__T
....Arbiter elegantiae -____-'
Quote-And while her anthropomorphism is the snowy owl, I think her favorite animal is the eagle. Besides there being a "Multics Man" comic strip where his "sidekick" is the FSO eagle:
I think an eagle would be an animal Multics-sama would admire...they symbolize power, pride, freedom, and fierceness...
Darn, it says I'm forbidden to access the server. ;__;
But I get the idea,... I'm not so sure if she'd admire the eagle,... so much as envy it. After all, it's free out there to catch all the mice it wants. On the other hand, she's couped up in a palace, not being able to go anywhere. ^^
QuoteAnother thing I just noticed, however, about that comic is that there's also Daemon sidekicks (shown as...WTF? A winged hand and eye?!). I suppose "daemons" originated with Multics...I've done Unix daemon-tans, now I wanna do Multics daemon-tans (and make them...erm...not creepy...)
Or you can make them 'Monsters Inc'-style not-too-creepy characters. ^___^'
Quote-I should also note I see Multics-sama as having a very sweet, frolicsome, almost child-like streak, when interacting with those she is fond of. While very shy as a youth, and quite mentally unable to handle having too many people around her, with the tutoring of CTSS-sama, later in life she was spectacularly social.
Somehow I wonder if,... in her early fights with UNIX-sama,.... once couldn't have been able to distinguish which one of them is the child. ^v^;
But yeah, I'm glad she matures to a fine vintage later on in life. ^___^
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Oh,... I'm done already? '';
Well that's not right,... might as well reply to your stuff about VMS-sama then. ^^
QuoteThis is such a gorgeous picture! There's nothing I can say that will do this picture justice, but I'll try...The pose is spectacular, her expression is perfect, I think you've really captured her attitude; and I love what you did with her hair.
Thank you Bella-sama. You can say, though, that I got inspired by your own attention to detail (especially with clothing). ^__^
QuoteHer outfit is stunning, from the excellent shading and highlighting (which makes a great leather effect), to the small details like the buckles, straps and knife belt. The cleaver is beautifully done, I love how you worked the reflections into it. And the knife or sword in her right hand is a nice touch, too.
The clothing took quite a while to shade, since I was using so many reference shots in order to make sure the lighting was spot on. Still feel it's a bit patchy, but as long as it does the trick, I'm happy your happy. ^___^
Can't take credit for all the small details, though, since they all come from YOUR sketches. ^.^
I've drawn other swords before, and used reference shots to get the right kind of complex gleam you'd normally get off such a metallic surface, so again it's not something that couldn't be easily reproduced (especially now that a certain B-Day girl has the Sauce... ^.^).
The thing on her right hand, though, is actually her mask. She's taking it off to pose fo rthe camera, much to the chagrin of the cameraman who now knows what she looks like (and now has to remain in the sub, either as a permanent guest, or shark food).
QuoteAs if VMS-sama herself isn't perfect enough, you made a very imaginative background, too. I'm really loving the sharks...especially the grimacing one on the right heehee. The reflections in the water and on the sharks are great, and the way you worked reflections into the rest of the picture draw everything together.
Thank you. ^.^
The shark there is actually not grimacing,... that's how they look like when seen up front. Pretty scary, no? ^v^;
All 4 sharks come from different pictures, and the water itself is also a composite of two different acquarium shots. A lot of the original real-life detail was reproduceable in vector form thanks to blurring effects.
Speaking of which, I'm having a ball playing with the prerelease of Inkscape 0.46!! ^v^
There's enough stuff in here to make me swoon all the way to next Tuesday! ^-^
QuoteThe steps and neon lighting are a very futuristic touch, that, as I've said before, lends the HQ a certain cool secret lair feel. The beam on the left, with the CIOST symbol and the...rope lighting(?) actually reminds me, a bit, of a modern mainframe.
It accidentally looks like a mainframe, but just meant it as cool, futuristic, militaresque lighting. The rope-lighting is meant to be something akin to heating coils, regulating the water temperature. The recessed lighting on the beams, though,... just a kind of draconian eye-candy. ^.^;
QuoteI know this is biased of me, but I'd say this is the best...and my favorite...of your works. It does a great justice to one of my favorite characters, and one of the last great OSs, hehe. Thank you for a great birthday gift, that was certainly worth the wait!
Why thank you again Bella-sama. ^__^
You're not wrong,... this is my favorite of my drawings as well. That's because I pulled all the stops possible to make it extra special for the birthday girl. I think you've given a lot to OSC, so figured you didn't deserve anything less. ^___^
And if you want, now you have everything you need to make a cool avatar (that is, once your title changes). ^__^
Oh, and... did you try hiding Layer 1 yet? VMS-sama looks awesome rendered over a black background. ^>^
QuoteEverything about that picture is pure awesome and so beautifully well-done! I am nearly speechless but I shall try...
The futuristic setting, the rendering of the water, the sharks (I especially like the one that looks like it's smiling!), VMS-sama (who is so cool herself!), and all of the reflections, shading and highlighting (such remarkable attention to all those details!)
Thank you Aurora-hime. ^__^
I'm trying to aim for at least two more major drawings,... a quick-shot of PilotOS, and the Amigoid family picture that will be kind of my farewell gift. That aside from my final collaborative works with you on Zerosanity Xmas and Bella with the Userspace Gang pic, and after that I'll pretty much go into semi-Retirement Mode.
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In any event,... think that's all for now. ^__^
*whistles while seemingly pretending that Bella-sama didn't post that HUGE response*
Nah just kidding,... will get to that tomorrow. ^__^
Oh jeez, is it even possible to catch up to all I've missed in my absence?
I can tell just by taking a quick glance at this topic that the sap levels are reaching critical mass. O.O But then again, the *Nix-tans and most of Multics-sama's decendents just seem to create sap wherever they go.
(Oh man, I'm a goner)
I'll probably be visiting Inferno-chan in Unix hell soon. -_-;;
Firstly, I have a good explanation for my lack of postings...I've been frickin sick. -_- Seems everyone in my town is sick with some kind of contageous virus. I'm very glad to say that I'm well now.
Also, here's just an Idea that's been leaping around in my mind.
I've made up my mind on RCA Pearl-tan's design. But there are a few things I'm trying to decide on.
Main design: A cute teenage girl, with shoulder-length hair, a silver/gray dress, and dark blue hair. (the silver is the primary color on mine, while the tops and sides are dark blue)
Here's the thing....After really thinking about it...Since she is a MP3 Player-tan...Should I make her the same small size as the Ipod-tans? I must admit, it would make her alot cuter. (though it also puts her at risk of becomming a targer for.....FreeB-chan.....)
Quote from: "C-chan"- UNIX-sama eventually cedes her thrown to Linux-sama, and retires to life along wtth the Vintage-tans.
- During particular hard times, some of the escaping Windows-tans do get helped out by VMS-sama, where the truth is finally revealed. While they may lose a dynasty, they gain a hidden heritage.
- OS/2-sama never does get Open Sauced, but eComstation-tan does (or at least partially) and is able to carry on the lineage. Meanwhile, OS/2 retires and sits at the same table with Mac-tan and 95-tan. ^.^'
- The Mainframe Guild has been changed dramatically thanks to the Linuces, and has opened up to the rest of the world in a highly-coordinated effort to become fast, small, efficient and power-saving. The days of imposing, hulking, close-minded giants is a footnote in history.
- The Binteji Renmei grows in size, membership and influene -- coupled with strong ties to the Linux Federation and the prestige of some of its high-grade members (e.g., UNIX-sama), it is literally a forced to be reckoned with. A consciousness of "old is beautiful" is able to make its small renaissance around the world.
- Many more open source competitors have emerged over the years since (including one led by Inferno-chan), but the nature of things forces a regress to the age of chivalric battles.
- Amiga-sama is also able to become open-sourced finally. Despite her age, she is able to get married, form a proper family, and use her powers to help people like never before
"Uhhh, we kinda lost the source code ^_^;;"
~IBM Flunkie
And don't forget the MEWVZLDAW7 Club! (Mac Evangelists Windows Vista Zealots and Linux Diciples Against Windows 7)
Aww, sounds like a happy ending for Amiga-sama.
One can only imagine what kind of conversations 95-Tan, Mac-tan, and OS/2-tan would have at that table..
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QuoteFirstly, I have a good explanation for my lack of postings...I've been frickin sick. -_- Seems everyone in my town is sick with some kind of contageous virus. I'm very glad to say that I'm well now.
Poor Techno-san has been, not only sick, but freakin sick too. ^__^'
QuoteAlso, here's just an Idea that's been leaping around in my mind.
I've made up my mind on RCA Pearl-tan's design. But there are a few things I'm trying to decide on.
Main design: A cute teenage girl, with shoulder-length hair, a silver/gray dress, and dark blue hair. (the silver is the primary color on mine, while the tops and sides are dark blue)
Here's the thing....After really thinking about it...Since she is a MP3 Player-tan...Should I make her the same small size as the Ipod-tans? I must admit, it would make her alot cuter. (though it also puts her at risk of becomming a targer for.....FreeB-chan.....)
*puts several high denomination bills on the stage*
Hey, don't mind at all being her small if it'll attract FreeB-chan. Dontcha worry,... I'll,.... um,................. "protect" her in case FreeB-chan strikes........... yeah............. Mmmmm-hmmmmmm........ ^___^
No but seriously, that's a good idea. ^^
Quote"Uhhh, we kinda lost the source code ;;"
~IBM Flunkie
BASTARDS!!!!!!! >0<
QuoteAnd don't forget the MEWVZLDAW7 Club! (Mac Evangelists Windows Vista Zealots and Linux Diciples Against Windows 7)
WAAAAH?!!! No BSD Users? @.@
Or is this,....... more proof to the suspicions that Windows 7 will be BSD-based?!!! @o@
*curls into a ball and shudders at future*
QuoteAww, sounds like a happy ending for Amiga-sama.
I figured that after 50 years, she'd need at least SOME kind of nice ending. ^^;
QuoteOne can only imagine what kind of conversations 95-Tan, Mac-tan, and OS/2-tan would have at that table..
I kinda think of them as being like Apple ][-chan, PETchan and AtariDOS-chan act now. Before they used to be fervent rivals, now they're like gossipy sisters who seem as inseparable as gum on a shoe. ^____^
Oh, and Bella-san, I'll be back. ^.^
QuoteOh, and Bella-san, I'll be back. ^.^
*calls collection agency*
Nah, I kid. But I have been trying to return balance to the posts here...that, and I've been a bit busy :P
Okay this is it.... ^o^
*rolls up sleeves*
Today is the day I redeem myself!! ^0^
C-CHAN FIGHT-O!!!!!!!! ^0^*starts typing furiously*
Added after 58 minutes: Oh shoot,... now that I think about it,.... where do I start? @@;
I've been so out of it lately....? @__@;
*picks random starting point*
QuoteI love that smiling shark too
Helluva starting point..... @x@;
QuoteOh yeah, Slackware-chan was the first Linux distro (but it went by SLS back then)...
But I gotta tell DSL and Puppy-tan...for hipsters, they sure have old skool retro GUIs
Now now,... that's not a retro look,... that's an urban inner-city look. `v'
They may look innocent, but they're both from the "Hood".... wherever that may be. -v-;
QuoteIf you ask me, the Macs have already taken the cake for the most popular computer/OS. Just about everyone, computer-oriented or not, knows something about them, and a great deal like them. Even if they aren't quite sure what exactly they like, there's just something about Macs that intrigue people :P
But then again,... you live where you live, where EVERYONE and their dog has a Mac. ^___^;
Might skew your views on things. ^.^;
QuoteAs for them Open Sourcerers....they have a ways to go...
Well that future projection is based under the assumption that there's a major (and perhaps forced shift) in the world's polarity. So as developing economies grow larger, where Open Source has a strong foothold, the greater the likelihood that we'll see some major and quite shocking culture shift. O__O
QuoteAw, handing the reins over to Linux-sama I can deal with...but Unix-sama running off to the Vintage-tans...? Noooooooo....!!! For thine Goddess shall reign forever, and ever, and ever!
I wouldn't really call it "running off",... just some kind of graceful "semi-retirement". She can still pull some strings and old favors, but just doesn't want to put up with the burden is all. ^.^;
Linux-sama changes a lot in these future scenarios, and certainly has to rethink some of her earlier ideals to adapt to unchangeable realities and inevitable sorrows. In a way history manages not to repeat itself, but it doesn't make things any less bittersweet for her. :|
QuoteOh yeah...when M$ trashes NT beyond repair (which may have already happened) and decides to ste...I mean to say, implement, a Unix-like system, I can see the NT clan running off to Grandma. After all, there always was something about NT-san and VMS-sama nobody could quite put their finger on :P /quote]
Gee,... wonder what that could be. ^v^
QuoteA Mac, a 95 and an OS/2 walk into a bar....
You get the idea. ^.^
QuoteAhhh, yes, the gentle Linux mainframes
Not sure if "gentle" is the right word,... but yeah,... at least more pragmatic and down to earth. ^.^
QuoteConsidering the number of people who believe the lifespan for a computer or OS is no more than a few years, I wouldn't put money on it T__T
This again is in line with the multipolar world expectation. Many sectors of the underdeveloped world still consider 2400 baud modems high-tech, and could probably make use of obsolete hardware IF they had access to it and IF they had some semblance of security. (which currently is quite impossible in over 90% of the world). TT;
QuoteChivalric battles...? Oooookay....
Even though there would be some variations, Open Source OSes (by their very nature) wouldn't compete destructively but constructively. They'd probably aim for a set ambition, like say a space race, and pour every available resource to expand, explore, colonize,... pretty much advance computer race as we know it. It would be an era of relative peace, much deserved after a terrible period that would likely overshadow the OS wars of the 90's in terms of shear brutality.
QuoteMarried...!?!?!?! Children?!?!?! Miggy-sama?!?!?!
Would be nice.... I'm not holding my breath, though.
Well Miggy-sama has children now,... just not really a family. ^____^
I'm hopeful,... surely after 30 years SOMETHING's gotta give. ^v^;
QuoteYes, but I always though Lisa-tan chose not to talk. I think DTSS-tan would be physically unable : |
Awww.... @___@
QuoteYay! Amazing insight! Do I get a prize?
And if you want to carry the point even further, perhaps Multics-sama's loss of power to Unix-sama was some ill-guided attempt, even subconsciously, to rid herself of that power. Perhaps Multics-sama placed it on Unix-sama as some kind of hindrance; assuming that it would sabotage her daughter as it impeded herself...
Well that kinda would make Multics-sama particularly fiendish. On the other hand,....
Supposing she didn't want that power, but also unconsciously didn't want her daughter to suffer from it, hence why she did everything in her own power to deter UNIX-sama's efforts to vanquish her.
Then the moment she falls to that terrible defeat would have been even more horrifying for MULTICS-sama,... not only does she lose her power and her status, but also fails to stop her daughter from being cursed with that very power! @@
The burden of it would be lifted, but replaced with everlasting guilt and sadness.
QuoteThat's true. But I do suppose the worse time for her, physically and mentally, would have been her early life (as I said before, many thought Multics would never be built). Even after loosing her power things were fairly steady, with the occasional skirmish (GECOS-san, corporate higher-ups) here and there...I don't think events would have taken a turn for the worse until the late 80s though the 90s (as that's when systems started being shut down).
Yeah, now that you mention it, that makes sense. ^__^
Incidentally,... would love to see an uber-awesome depiction of GECOS-sama sometime. ^v^
QuoteExactly. I think Multics-sama would have had a fear of dying alone and forgotten (a la CTSS-sama), so perhaps realizing that somebody...her daughter...remembered her would have somehow lifted her spirits, even though she knew she was finally going to meet her fate -___-
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Amen to that SAP LEVEL. ;@v@;
Assuming something gets done with the MULTICS code, there's still plenty of room for the sage to continue, as we once surmized. I keep in mind that a remergence of MULTICS-sama would have at least some role to play in UNIX-sama's would-be retirement.
QuoteOh, it's not VMS I'm scared of...it's the VMS fans...
http://deathrow.vistech.net/
Holy hell! For a moment there, I thought that was an inmate asylum. ^^;
Yay! Balance has been returned to the universe, or at least this thread :P
Now where do I start?!
QuoteBut no seriously,... I've thought of 101 ways to draw Colossus-hime, and most of them are not PG-rated. -v-;
I'd say we have to look FAAAAAAAAR back beyond the Greeks for her design. Say,.... have you ever read Clan of the Cave Bear? `v'
Lemme guess...a bearskin bikini...?
Actually, maybe I don't want an answer O___o
QuoteI do have to admit, MULTICS-sama has come along way since my 10-cent story. ^.^
Ah, the 10-cent story. I gotta say that tale made me look at Multics and Unix-sama a lot differently.
But the more I read about Multics, the more I started to see Multics-sama in a new light...
QuoteYou know, the story also has some parallels with Apple Lisa as well.
Sure it was built, but it was too complicated and expensive for its own good, and even many within Apple were sure it would fail. And ultimately, she succumbed to her lighter, cheaper, simpler sister. ^___^
Course, Lisa-san is still alive, though. -v-;
Now that you mention it, the two do share a lot in common...
QuoteWell if you think about it, that kind of life is a bit monotonous. Normal-minded people at least get bored with monotony, and secretly crave for something different and adventurous to save them from being physically and mentally "caged up". The girl from Titanic, for instance. ^^
Exactly. And in Multics-sama's case, it makes me think of the saying "money can't buy happiness"....
QuoteBWAHAHA!!!!!! ^v^
Well that's no surprise, though.... ALL young, stuffy aristocrats are made to learn that dead ol' language. ^.^
In my own schooling, I was told I could learn either latin, ancient greek or Japanese. Even though this was long before my Anime era, I still wanted Japanese either way because it seemed most,... relevant. ^___^
But surprise surprise....... I got Latin.... T__T
....Arbiter elegantiae -____-'
Aww, I always thought Latin was pretty interesting. Useful? Probably not. But interesting.
Course, I love all matter of old stuff XD
QuoteDarn, it says I'm forbidden to access the server. ;__;
(http://www.multicians.org/mulimg/multicsman.gif)
Can ya see it now? :P
QuoteOr you can make them 'Monsters Inc'-style not-too-creepy characters. ^___^'
Or I can cop out and make 'em cute little cherub-like creatures. With clothes, of course XD
QuoteSomehow I wonder if,... in her early fights with UNIX-sama,.... once couldn't have been able to distinguish which one of them is the child. ^v^;
You could say that. I think Unix-sama would have been born with age beyond her years...although Multics-sama certainly wasn't immature.
QuoteThe thing on her right hand, though, is actually her mask. She's taking it off to pose fo rthe camera, much to the chagrin of the cameraman who now knows what she looks like (and now has to remain in the sub, either as a permanent guest, or shark food).
Oh, okay. I actually wasn't sure what it was ^///^
QuoteI'm trying to aim for at least two more major drawings,... a quick-shot of PilotOS, and the Amigoid family picture that will be kind of my farewell gift. That aside from my final collaborative works with you on Zerosanity Xmas and Bella with the Userspace Gang pic, and after that I'll pretty much go into semi-Retirement Mode.
We could still see the Amiga family, huh?
QuoteI can tell just by taking a quick glance at this topic that the sap levels are reaching critical mass. O.O But then again, the *Nix-tans and most of Multics-sama's decendents just seem to create sap wherever they go.
With a lineage that old, there's gonna be some drama in the past ;)
Hope you're feeling better, though!
QuoteI've made up my mind on RCA Pearl-tan's design. But there are a few things I'm trying to decide on.
Main design: A cute teenage girl, with shoulder-length hair, a silver/gray dress, and dark blue hair. (the silver is the primary color on mine, while the tops and sides are dark blue)
Here's the thing....After really thinking about it...Since she is a MP3 Player-tan...Should I make her the same small size as the Ipod-tans? I must admit, it would make her alot cuter. (though it also puts her at risk of becomming a targer for.....FreeB-chan.....)
I always assumed she'd be a miniature OS-tan, if only because of the iPod-tans ;)
Your ideas sound good! And of course, if you have any questions, we'd love to help!
QuoteBut then again,... you live where you live, where EVERYONE and their dog has a Mac. ^___^;
Might skew your views on things. ^.^;
*starts waving NH flag*
QuoteWell that future projection is based under the assumption that there's a major (and perhaps forced shift) in the world's polarity. So as developing economies grow larger, where Open Source has a strong foothold, the greater the likelihood that we'll see some major and quite shocking culture shift. O__O
Yeah, I can see where open source stuff could very possibly take off in less developed markets...
QuoteI wouldn't really call it "running off",... just some kind of graceful "semi-retirement". She can still pull some strings and old favors, but just doesn't want to put up with the burden is all. ^.^;
Linux-sama changes a lot in these future scenarios, and certainly has to rethink some of her earlier ideals to adapt to unchangeable realities and inevitable sorrows. In a way history manages not to repeat itself, but it doesn't make things any less bittersweet for her.
Do you mean, Linux-sama changes as she starts to become more powerful and...I dare say...commercial....and perhaps loses some touch with her very humble roots?
Of course, in that case, great power does come with great responsibility...
(why do I keep mentioning these adages?)
QuoteEven though there would be some variations, Open Source OSes (by their very nature) wouldn't compete destructively but constructively. They'd probably aim for a set ambition, like say a space race, and pour every available resource to expand, explore, colonize,... pretty much advance computer race as we know it. It would be an era of relative peace, much deserved after a terrible period that would likely overshadow the OS wars of the 90's in terms of shear brutality.
Oh, I see. Currently...for all the alternate OSs that are becoming more mainstream (OS X included), it's quite peaceful. I think it's because they've realized nobody's going to pull off another M$-like takeover, and the best thing is to win users one niche market at a time and by focusing on quality.
QuoteWell Miggy-sama has children now,... just not really a family. ^____^
I'm hopeful,... surely after 30 years SOMETHING's gotta give. ^v^;
Well, if open-sourcing happened to Multics-sama it could happen to anyone. And Miggy-san has the key advantage of being able to run on modern hardware :P
QuoteSupposing she didn't want that power, but also unconsciously didn't want her daughter to suffer from it, hence why she did everything in her own power to deter UNIX-sama's efforts to vanquish her.
Then the moment she falls to that terrible defeat would have been even more horrifying for MULTICS-sama,... not only does she lose her power and her status, but also fails to stop her daughter from being cursed with that very power! @@
The burden of it would be lifted, but replaced with everlasting guilt and sadness.
That sounds about right to me.
*basks in the sap*
QuoteYeah, now that you mention it, that makes sense. ^__^
Incidentally,... would love to see an uber-awesome depiction of GECOS-sama sometime. ^v^
Well, I sketched GECOS-sama...and I swear I really do want to do finished drawings of GECOS, WAITS, DTSS, CTSS-sama, etc. Basically all the pre-70s OS-tans.
I just can't figure what I wanna do for a picture with GECOS-sama. Any suggestions...? ;)
QuoteAssuming something gets done with the MULTICS code, there's still plenty of room for the sage to continue, as we once surmized. I keep in mind that a remergence of MULTICS-sama would have at least some role to play in UNIX-sama's would-be retirement.
Now that would be irony. Unix-sama stepping down and Multics-sama taking her place XD
*waits for piano to fall on head*
QuoteHoly hell! For a moment there, I thought that was an inmate asylum. ^^;
Now you know how I felt XD
I was trying to access the system with the HyperTerminal...sadly, they don't give a link (or even any clues) like the hobbyist sites for RSTS...
Anyhoo, I bit back I came up with an idea for a Uncyclopedia-tan. I love Uncyclopedia XD
I think she'd be something of a stand-up comedian, dressed akin to Wikipe-tan. She's irreverent and absurd with a dryly scathing sense of humor though which she often tells some truth. She'd be a terrible person if she wasn't such an equal-opportunity offender, with nobody and nothing off-limits to her.
She enjoys reading from her UnBooks, and wears a potato-shaped hair clip (a nod to Uncyclopedia's logo, a hollowed-out potato called Sophia).
Incidentally, I also wanted to make an Uncyclopedia-tan too! Personality-wise, she would have been very much like you suggested but appearance-wise, she'd have been based off of Oscar Wilde and wear a schoolgirl outfit (on the OS-tan article on Uncyclopedia, it said that Uncyclopedia-tan is Oscar Wilde in a schoolgirl outfit)!
Okay, I'm back. Sorry about my recent absence. I've been busy posting in other forums, doing things in RL, making experimental mugen characters, Playing Mugen with the characters I have in my current roster, (Short story: ALOT OF CHARACTERS), and doing things like this...
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s240/saturn_the_hedgehog/MugenScreenshot1.png)
Seriously, who could've seen that fight comming?
Also, while at a thrift shop. I found and bought a Sega Dreamcast in near MINT condition, still works perfectly for $16.96. The only catch is that it doesn't have an AV cord. (Next stop on my internet tour for today, Ebay! To buy one!)
But...On my way out of the store I saw this HUGE book staring up at me from atop a table with a whole bunch of other paperback books. (two of which were Bill Cosby). But this particular book caught my interest. It's a mammoth of a book titled. (The) Redhat Linux 9 Bible.
The front says "Comes with three bonus discs to install redhat and unlock all kinds of stuff" but it didn't have the discs. Anyway, I just couldn't resist myself, and for Fifty Cents I couldn't lose.
Speaking of Redhat...I heard you're going to do something about the ZerOSanity Christmas special C-chan?
Also, something I just noticed. On the front of the Dreamcast, at the bottom, in very tiny text it says "Compatible with Windows CE".
I wonder if Dreamcast-tan may take anything from CE-tan.
Mabye she has fairy wings. Or CE's obsession for putting things where they don't belong.....You know what I mean.....
All this talk of things in the far future brings one thought to my mind...
Now of course this is a BIG "Mabye". But perhaps in the future Effie and her sister 4Chan-tan stop fighting/trying to destroy each other so much.
QuoteBut no seriously,... I've thought of 101 ways to draw Colossus-hime, and most of them are not PG-rated. -v-;
Oh, Please do share them with us. I certainly wouldn't mind.
QuoteWell if you think about it, that kind of life is a bit monotonous. Normal-minded people at least get bored with monotony, and secretly crave for something different and adventurous to save them from being physically and mentally "caged up". The girl from Titanic, for instance. ^^
That just reminded me of Haruhi.. "I hope something strange happens."
QuoteBWAHAHA!!!!!! ^v^
Well that's no surprise, though.... ALL young, stuffy aristocrats are made to learn that dead ol' language. ^.^
In my own schooling, I was told I could learn either latin, ancient greek or Japanese. Even though this was long before my Anime era, I still wanted Japanese either way because it seemed most,... relevant. ^___^
But surprise surprise....... I got Latin.... T__T
....Arbiter elegantiae -____-'
Hey, at least you can fully understand Multics-sama now.
QuoteOr you can make them 'Monsters Inc'-style not-too-creepy characters. ^___^'
I second that emotion.
QuoteHope you're feeling better, though!
Thanks Bella, I'm glad to announce that I'm feeling much much better now. ^__^
QuoteI always assumed she'd be a miniature OS-tan, if only because of the iPod-tans
Your ideas sound good! And of course, if you have any questions, we'd love to help!
Thanks.
Allright, I'm off!
QuoteIncidentally, I also wanted to make an Uncyclopedia-tan too! Personality-wise, she would have been very much like you suggested but appearance-wise, she'd have been based off of Oscar Wilde and wear a schoolgirl outfit (on the OS-tan article on Uncyclopedia, it said that Uncyclopedia-tan is Oscar Wilde in a schoolgirl outfit)!
I'll meet you halfway! Since I didn't have a very good idea for her costume, I'll probably dress her as a schoolgirl.
As for the Oscar Wilde influences....that might be a bit harder to work with ;)
QuoteOkay, I'm back. Sorry about my recent absence. I've been busy posting in other forums, doing things in RL, making experimental mugen characters, Playing Mugen with the characters I have in my current roster, (Short story: ALOT OF CHARACTERS), and doing things like this...
Seriously, who could've seen that fight comming?
Ooooh, I see you've been quite busy lately! But most importantly...Is that...Kyon...?
QuoteAlso, while at a thrift shop. I found and bought a Sega Dreamcast in near MINT condition, still works perfectly for $16.96. The only catch is that it doesn't have an AV cord. (Next stop on my internet tour for today, Ebay! To buy one!)
Wow! For only $17 bucks! That's a really good deal!
Hope you can find the cord you're looking for, too...
QuoteBut...On my way out of the store I saw this HUGE book staring up at me from atop a table with a whole bunch of other paperback books. (two of which were Bill Cosby). But this particular book caught my interest. It's a mammoth of a book titled. (The) Redhat Linux 9 Bible.
The front says "Comes with three bonus discs to install redhat and unlock all kinds of stuff" but it didn't have the discs. Anyway, I just couldn't resist myself, and for Fifty Cents I couldn't lose.
Bill Cosby books...what a neat find! Oh yeah, and the Redhat Linux Bible is okay too...
I kid, I kid. I wish I could find something cool like that at a thrift shop...but lucky me finds nothing but old computer monitors and tacky 80s clothing XD
By the way, do you know when the book was published? Out of personal curiosity ;)
QuoteAlso, something I just noticed. On the front of the Dreamcast, at the bottom, in very tiny text it says "Compatible with Windows CE".
I wonder if Dreamcast-tan may take anything from CE-tan.
Mabye she has fairy wings. Or CE's obsession for putting things where they don't belong.....You know what I
I know CE-tan is sometimes shown as standing by a Dreamcast logo, this explains it...
QuoteNow of course this is a BIG "Mabye". But perhaps in the future Effie and her sister 4Chan-tan stop fighting/trying to destroy each other so much.
Must have been a fireside singing of Kumbaya!
But it would be great if the two fighting siblings could find some peace :)
QuoteOh, Please do share them with us. I certainly wouldn't mind.
Speak for yourself, buddy ^///^
QuoteThat just reminded me of Haruhi.. "I hope something strange happens."
Did...did...Haruhi and Multics-sama just get compared...?
I expect the end of the known universe any time now :P
QuoteI second that emotion.
Oh noes! I wants my little cherubs! ^_^
But...I should find a way to work the Multics Man daemons into their designs...
QuoteThanks Bella, I'm glad to announce that I'm feeling much much better now. ^__^
Good to hear you're feeling well!
In other news, I've been wondering...again...about a BSD-tan. Maybe I'll try to design her (at least at a younger age)...
I'm thinking she'll be much more elegant, even prettier, than most of her sisters; I've read BSD was a lot more elegant and advanced than it's eastern counterparts....
And while researching BSD I found a couple very interesting sites:
http://www.princeton.edu/%7Emike/unixhistory
This has interviews with some of the creators of Multics and Unix. Shhh...don't tell anyone, but Unix may have been made because some people really liked Multics and CTSS and were sad to see them "fail" ;015
And a great little paper for peace between the different Unixes and their supporters:
http://herpolhode.com/rob/ugly.pdf
Makes you think about what Plan 9-san's mindset would be...
OMG,.... @@;
I'm gonna need some caffeine. ^____^;
*passes out, with wads of rainchecks in hand*
Added after 1 hours 23 minutes: Oh what the hay....
I always feel bad leaving your thread with all the rainchecks, especially after trying so hard doing all this research,....
Truth is I still have a little time left, so let me go through it real quick, even if it means some truncation. ^__^
Just don't mind if I sound a little incoherent,... in all honesty, a little sleep deprivation is bound to make my mind a little flakey. ^^:
QuoteLemme guess...a bearskin bikini...?
Actually, maybe I don't want an answer O___o
Mmmm... yummy.... hadn't thought of that. Thx. OvO
*puts it down on idea pad*
QuoteAh, the 10-cent story. I gotta say that tale made me look at Multics and Unix-sama a lot differently.
But the more I read about Multics, the more I started to see Multics-sama in a new light...
But like everything in life, the 10 cent story is the one that's made it in the history books.
Certainly the one all young Unices and Linuces everywhere are taught/tortured with in school. ^.^
QuoteAww, I always thought Latin was pretty interesting. Useful? Probably not. But interesting.
Course, I love all matter of old stuff XD
You want old and interesting, learn Sanskrit and get yourself a copy of the MahÄbhÄrata. I would have given anything to have read that over attending those GAWD-awful classes. T___T;
QuoteWe could still see the Amiga family, huh?
I'll definitely see what I can do, but semi-retirement's a lot harder than I thought. For one thing, I may have to be like a hermit-type, coming down from the mountains every month to issue a new OS-tan drawing that, under previous circumstances, could've probably been finished in a few days. I suck, I know.... ^^;
However, the more I learn about the inner-working of PCLOS and Linux in general, the likelier the chance I can issue a special "PCLOS-tan" remaster. What better way to make an homage to a beautiful, goddess-like OS-tan than to actually make an OS of her? ^.^
At the very least, though, the idea had occurred to me yesterday to consider the possibility of using PCLOS-tan & Co. as mascots for a BASH learning game.
Should THAT ever become a reality, would you be interested in testing? 'v'
QuoteDo you mean, Linux-sama changes as she starts to become more powerful and...I dare say...commercial....and perhaps loses some touch with her very humble roots?
Of course, in that case, great power does come with great responsibility...
(why do I keep mentioning these adages?)
Bwaha! ^v^
Yes and now. She's still a very selfless individual so she doesn't get in any way power-hungry. However, it is true that the Linux family tree will probably fragment severely within the coming years (with the Software Libre and Commercial subfactions being particularly at eachothers throats, among others), and in order to restore some semblance of order she has to make many of the hard decisions that UNIX-sama has had to face during her own reign.
So she too ends up yearning for the days when life was simpler and purer, but knows they can never return and understands that she can only move forward.
She is better at handling the "Curse", but it's still a curse.
Like lipstick on a pig.... ^^;
QuoteOh, I see. Currently...for all the alternate OSs that are becoming more mainstream (OS X included), it's quite peaceful. I think it's because they've realized nobody's going to pull off another M$-like takeover, and the best thing is to win users one niche market at a time and by focusing on quality.
Correct, but again I feel that can't last for long. Eventually M$, stuck in the corner, will lash out for real and it would take a lot of energy to fight back. Not to mention that bigger threats will manifest themselves from within, what with SUSE, Linspire, Xandros and Turbolinux trading their souls to meet their bottom line.
QuoteWell, if open-sourcing happened to Multics-sama it could happen to anyone. And Miggy-san has the key advantage of being able to run on modern hardware :P
Or at least one can hope. ^^
Incidentally, after watching some cute, albeit horrificly-paced episodes of Tsubasa Chronicles, I can honestly say that I have a template for an Open Sourced Amiga....
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p263/Jing-3/c1b330ea3f3b77a4b05714329af25735.jpg)
Although the wings would definitely be larger,.....
In case you wondered where MOS-can got her wings, turns out mom had them locked up all along. ^___^
QuoteThat sounds about right to me.
*basks in the sap*
Incidentally, you drew an MSPaint picture of yourself inside a vat of sap, no? ^^;
QuoteWell, I sketched GECOS-sama...and I swear I really do want to do finished drawings of GECOS, WAITS, DTSS, CTSS-sama, etc. Basically all the pre-70s OS-tans.
I just can't figure what I wanna do for a picture with GECOS-sama. Any suggestions...?
Yeah, but not sure if you would like it..... ^^;
See it had just occurred to me,.... I've never seen (or don't remember) you try your hand at chibi artwork before. ^____^
Would you consider trying your hand at quick-deployment chibis? ^.^
QuoteNow that would be irony. Unix-sama stepping down and Multics-sama taking her place XD
*waits for piano to fall on head*
You mean Lultics, no? ^____^
But I'm thinking more of a scenario where a confrontation of that magnitude would blow open all the secrets out into the open, thus tearing the UNIX world apart. However, it would also start to open channels of communication, which as you can imagine aren't really that plentiful now.
For XYZ reason, she comes to peace with herself and her heritage, steps down (and lets Linux-sama take over), and retires to the nice sweet spot at the Binteji Renmei she reserved since she began funding it. ^.^
And for once, she can finally live the remainder of her life as a [somewhat more normal] person. -v-
QuoteAnyhoo, I bit back I came up with an idea for a Uncyclopedia-tan. I love Uncyclopedia XD
I think she'd be something of a stand-up comedian, dressed akin to Wikipe-tan. She's irreverent and absurd with a dryly scathing sense of humor though which she often tells some truth. She'd be a terrible person if she wasn't such an equal-opportunity offender, with nobody and nothing off-limits to her.
She enjoys reading from her UnBooks, and wears a potato-shaped hair clip (a nod to Uncyclopedia's logo, a hollowed-out potato called Sophia).
Eeep....... well guess it was only a matter of time before one of youz guys drew an Uncyclopedia-tan. ^__________________^;
Quoteon the OS-tan article on Uncyclopedia, it said that Uncyclopedia-tan is Oscar Wilde in a schoolgirl outfit)!
............................................Okay, that just draws a "huh?" from me. '';
QuoteOkay, I'm back. Sorry about my recent absence. I've been busy posting in other forums, doing things in RL, making experimental mugen characters, Playing Mugen with the characters I have in my current roster, (Short story: ALOT OF CHARACTERS), and doing things like this...
Oooh,... sounds a lot like my life. ^___^;
Great to see the MUGEN thing progressing well!
QuoteAlso, while at a thrift shop. I found and bought a Sega Dreamcast in near MINT condition, still works perfectly for $16.96. The only catch is that it doesn't have an AV cord. (Next stop on my internet tour for today, Ebay! To buy one!)
Hopefully that cord is cheap, and not like that infernal cable needed for those piece-o-crap Sega 32X's. TT;
QuoteThe front says "Comes with three bonus discs to install redhat and unlock all kinds of stuff" but it didn't have the discs. Anyway, I just couldn't resist myself, and for Fifty Cents I couldn't lose.
Hey, it's probably based on old bids, but for 50 cents for sure that's always a bargain for a huge book. I purchased an illustrative guide to Byzantine cathedral art and mosaics for that very same reason once (and I'm not a fan of Byzantine art, but what value!). ^v^
QuoteSpeaking of Redhat...I heard you're going to do something about the ZerOSanity Christmas special C-chan?
Ummm.............. try and finish it? ^^;
But you saw my work on the last three pages in the Zerosanity thread, though.
QuoteOh, Please do share them with us. I certainly wouldn't mind.
No way, there are KIDS present! ^0^
But if you want an idea, just watch Ultimate Girls. ^___^
QuoteI'll meet you halfway! Since I didn't have a very good idea for her costume, I'll probably dress her as a schoolgirl.
As for the Oscar Wilde influences....that might be a bit harder to work with
Okay then,.... DOUBLE "huh?". TT;
QuoteSpeak for yourself, buddy ^///^
Hmmm... C-chan sees Bella-sama blush.
Hence C-chan can only conclude....
,..that she want to hear it too. -v-
Very well, C-chan shall concede and type up an epic poem of sky-high raunchiness.... ^___^
Or more specifically, C-chan will issue RAINCHECKs for said poem.
And fortunately, you can ALWAYS count on C-chan to be make due on his rainchecks,... riiiiiiiiiiight? `v'
QuoteIn other news, I've been wondering...again...about a BSD-tan. Maybe I'll try to design her (at least at a younger age)...
I'm thinking she'll be much more elegant, even prettier, than most of her sisters; I've read BSD was a lot more elegant and advanced than it's eastern counterparts....
Excellent. ^^
Of the little preconcepts that I had of her, Mama BSD would appear to have a mature beauty, and would also be fairly self-conscious about that beauty, to the point of being a touch hedonistic. She loves her daughters, but carries on the tradition of tough love in that she doesn't hold them back as they all scatter far far away from her (and the rest of the traditional Unix base).
QuoteThis has interviews with some of the creators of Multics and Unix. Shhh...don't tell anyone, but Unix may have been made because some people really liked Multics and CTSS and were sad to see them "fail"
Under better circumstances then, CTSS-sama and Multics-sama would be proud of UNIX-sama. ^___^
QuoteAnd a great little paper for peace between the different Unixes and their supporters:
http://herpolhode.com/rob/ugly.pdf
Makes you think about what Plan 9-san's mindset would be...
My GAWDS what an article,.. it almost LOOKS like it was written by a UNIX-tan. ^^;
Interesting, but the done line that sticks out from the rest does resonate:
Future:
Unixes of the World, Unite!Let's hope they get it together. ^___^
And tell Plan 9-sama to get it together, and drag her butt back home this instant! ^0^
QuoteOh what the hay....
I always feel bad leaving your thread with all the rainchecks, especially after trying so hard doing all this research,....
Truth is I still have a little time left, so let me go through it real quick, even if it means some truncation. ^__^
Just don't mind if I sound a little incoherent,... in all honesty, a little sleep deprivation is bound to make my mind a little flakey. ^^:
Incoherent? I have no qualms about incoherency!
QuoteBut like everything in life, the 10 cent story is the one that's made it in the history books.
Certainly the one all young Unices and Linuces everywhere are taught/tortured with in school. ^.^
*imagines a bunch of young Linux-tans in schoolgirl outfits*
Brrrr! Now who's flaky?!
QuoteYou want old and interesting, learn Sanskrit and get yourself a copy of the MahÄbhÄrata. I would have given anything to have read that over attending those GAWD-awful classes. T___T;
You greatly overestimate meh language abilities!
QuoteI'll definitely see what I can do, but semi-retirement's a lot harder than I thought. For one thing, I may have to be like a hermit-type, coming down from the mountains every month to issue a new OS-tan drawing that, under previous circumstances, could've probably been finished in a few days. I suck, I know.... ^^;
However, the more I learn about the inner-working of PCLOS and Linux in general, the likelier the chance I can issue a special "PCLOS-tan" remaster. What better way to make an homage to a beautiful, goddess-like OS-tan than to actually make an OS of her? ^.^
Well, hopefully you'll still find a bit of free time to draw. And we're always here if you need help or suggestions :)
As for that goddess status of PCLOS-san...I have but one Goddess for I, and Unix-sama be thy name! And...Multics-sama. And VMS-sama. And I occasionally prostrate myself before Ubuntu-san. XD
QuoteAt the very least, though, the idea had occurred to me yesterday to consider the possibility of using PCLOS-tan & Co. as mascots for a BASH learning game.
Should THAT ever become a reality, would you be interested in testing? 'v'
Sure!
Wait...what would I be testing exactly? :P
QuoteYes and now. She's still a very selfless individual so she doesn't get in any way power-hungry. However, it is true that the Linux family tree will probably fragment severely within the coming years (with the Software Libre and Commercial subfactions being particularly at eachothers throats, among others), and in order to restore some semblance of order she has to make many of the hard decisions that UNIX-sama has had to face during her own reign.
Uh...oh...do I sense the Linux Wars...?
I suppose the Libre types would be the more open-minded and socialist (I guess you could go as far to say as the more devoted followers of Linux-sama's teachings), while the Commercial Linux-tans would be the more bottom-line types; following perhaps a more Unix-style business model (although not as cold and calculating), and even being willing to work with M$.
....At any rate, that sounds like a recipe for disaster O___O
QuoteSo she too ends up yearning for the days when life was simpler and purer, but knows they can never return and understands that she can only move forward.
She is better at handling the "Curse", but it's still a curse.
Like lipstick on a pig.... ^^;
Well, surely Linux-sama and her family could handle power better. Hopefully....
QuoteCorrect, but again I feel that can't last for long. Eventually M$, stuck in the corner, will lash out for real and it would take a lot of energy to fight back. Not to mention that bigger threats will manifest themselves from within, what with SUSE, Linspire, Xandros and Turbolinux trading their souls to meet their bottom line.
Like I always say about M$...I wouldn't put
anything past them. But a lot of consumers seem to be getting fed up with their, to put it nicely, shenanigans...and I really can't see how M$ could lash out besides doing a lot of FUDing and frivolous SCO-like lawsuits.
I do think that the more likely scenario would be for them to hijack a Linux distro (like one you listed), and try to take out the competition from there. I think that this happening could even more more damaging than them just attacking.
QuoteOr at least one can hope. ^^
Incidentally, after watching some cute, albeit horrificly-paced episodes of Tsubasa Chronicles, I can honestly say that I have a template for an Open Sourced Amiga....
Although the wings would definitely be larger,.....
In case you wondered where MOS-can got her wings, turns out mom had them locked up all along. ^___^
*imagines Miggy-sama with wings*
Hawt damn! You know how I love things with wings! It's a shame Amiga won't be open-sourced until 2031!
But at least now we have something to look forward to, should she get her "day of flight" :P
QuoteIncidentally, you drew an MSPaint picture of yourself inside a vat of sap, no? ^^;
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/untitled-17.jpg)
QuoteYeah, but not sure if you would like it..... ^^;
See it had just occurred to me,.... I've never seen (or don't remember) you try your hand at chibi artwork before. ^____^
Would you consider trying your hand at quick-deployment chibis? ^.^
Yeah, I've never done a chibi before, but I might be willing to try. I dunno if it would exactly fit GECOS-san though...I was thinking more like some kinda epic battle scene with Multics-sama or something.
Though I'm not exactly in the epic mood right now :P
QuoteYou mean Lultics, no? ^____^
But I'm thinking more of a scenario where a confrontation of that magnitude would blow open all the secrets out into the open, thus tearing the UNIX world apart. However, it would also start to open channels of communication, which as you can imagine aren't really that plentiful now.
Oh now, if the Unix world wasn't...completely...torn apart by their war, I don't see how anything can. I could be wrong, though...
QuoteFor XYZ reason, she comes to peace with herself and her heritage, steps down (and lets Linux-sama take over), and retires to the nice sweet spot at the Binteji Renmei she reserved since she began funding it. ^.^
And for once, she can finally live the remainder of her life as a [somewhat more normal] person. -v-
That would be nice for Unix-sama, but somehow I think it would be more difficult for her to step down than anyone else, if only for the fact that she has had such a reputation and legacy built around her (as in the 100s of operating systems that can call themselves "Unix-like")...
And "normal person" Unix-sama....I can't even process that! XD
QuoteHmmm... C-chan sees Bella-sama blush.
Hence C-chan can only conclude....
,..that she want to hear it too. -v-
Very well, C-chan shall concede and type up an epic poem of sky-high raunchiness.... ^___^
Or more specifically, C-chan will issue RAINCHECKs for said poem.
And fortunately, you can ALWAYS count on C-chan to be make due on his rainchecks,... riiiiiiiiiiight? `v'
*tears up C-Chan's raincheck*
^///////////////^
QuoteExcellent. ^^
Of the little preconcepts that I had of her, Mama BSD would appear to have a mature beauty, and would also be fairly self-conscious about that beauty, to the point of being a touch hedonistic. She loves her daughters, but carries on the tradition of tough love in that she doesn't hold them back as they all scatter far far away from her (and the rest of the traditional Unix base).
And attitude-wise, I think she'd be the original rebel in the family; after all, Berkley got into a legal battle with Bell Labs (or was it AT&T at the time?) over the code BSD contained...I don't know if BSD-tan so much disliked her mother's tactics like Plan 9-san, but she certainly took a different path than most of her family...
I also figure she'd have somewhat long (blue) hair. Her outfit I'm having some trouble with, however...
QuoteUnder better circumstances then, CTSS-sama and Multics-sama would be proud of UNIX-sama. ^___^
For sure! But that was a very "with-us-or-against-us" time; she was seen as nothing but a threat that needed to be dealt with -___-
I guess it's ironic that Multics gave so much inspiration for an OS that was the opposite of it...I mean, if Multics hadn't been built, or even hadn't
failed, Unix probably would have never been born O___O
QuoteMy GAWDS what an article,.. it almost LOOKS like it was written by a UNIX-tan. ^^;
Interesting, but the done line that sticks out from the rest does resonate:
Future:
Unixes of the World, Unite!
Let's hope they get it together. ^___^
And tell Plan 9-sama to get it together, and drag her butt back home this instant! ^0^
The lines I liked were:
The Good things about Unix are also its Bad things. The things that
made it successful also limited its success.And
What is the best thing about Unix? The community.
What is the worst thing about Unix? That there are so many communities.
Quote from: "Bella"Ooooh, I see you've been quite busy lately! But most importantly...Is that...Kyon...?
Yep. As a matter of fact all of the SOS Brigade have been made into Mugen characters.
Haruhi, Mikuru, Yuki, Koizumi, Kyon, and even Asukara.
(the lost rule #36 "If it exists, someone somewhere will make a mugen character of it!")
Quote from: "Bella"Wow! For only $17 bucks! That's a really good deal!
Hope you can find the cord you're looking for, too...
Thanks Bella, I went to ebay a few days ago to find that the cords are quite cheap. Between 7 and 15 Dollars. ^__^
Quote from: "Bella"Bill Cosby books...what a neat find! Oh yeah, and the Redhat Linux Bible is okay too...
I kid, I kid. I wish I could find something cool like that at a thrift shop...but lucky me finds nothing but old computer monitors and tacky 80s clothing XD
By the way, do you know when the book was published? Out of personal curiosity
Hmm, it's pretty recent.
"Copyright 2003 by Wiley Publishing Inc."
(that's the first time I've heard the word "Copyright" used in reference to something about linux)
Quote from: "Bella"Good to hear you're feeling well!
In other news, I've been wondering...again...about a BSD-tan. Maybe I'll try to design her (at least at a younger age)...
I'm thinking she'll be much more elegant, even prettier, than most of her sisters; I've read BSD was a lot more elegant and advanced than it's eastern counterparts....
Hmm, is this mabye the Mama BSD I keep hearing about?
Perhaps she could bear a small resemblence to NT-sama.
Quote from: "C-chan"Or at least one can hope. ^^
Incidentally, after watching some cute, albeit horrificly-paced episodes of Tsubasa Chronicles, I can honestly say that I have a template for an Open Sourced Amiga....
Oooooh. ^____^ Cuuute. I like this Idea.
Quote from: "C-chan"Hopefully that cord is cheap, and not like that infernal cable needed for those piece-o-crap Sega 32X's. TT;
Tell me about it..
The 32X wasn't really worth it to me. I mean, it's graphics weren't really any better than the Sega CD's. To top that it didn't have many good games on it. Then, both the CD and the 32X needed their own power cords and AV cords. They all used those huge plugs with the transformers on the end. To make all this worse, Sega release a select few games that required both a CD AND a 32X to run (called CD32X Games).
(I do believe Night Trap was one of these)
In order to play these not only would you need all three of the systems, but a power strip as well.(those huge plugs take up entire outlets)
These little Add-ons to the once great genesis weren't cheap either.
The Dreamcast on the other hand was revolutionary. The graphics were good, It had good games, (Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Phantasy Star online, Ect.) and was even one of the very first consoles to feature Online play.
It struggled with a few things though, that would eventually cause it's downfall.
The first and most notable was this: It had to compete with the PS2.
(back in the console wars Sony pretty much crushed all who opposed it.)
It was also the only system capable of playing Homebrew games, Imports, and Roms right out of the box without any modding or additions.
This was good for gamers, but bad for Sega.
The online play too suffered, it had very few games that supported it. and eventually because of server problems, started charging money for it.
*looks at watch*
Oh, excuse me. I'm rambling on again..
Quote from: "C-chan"Ummm.............. try and finish it? ^^;
But you saw my work on the last three pages in the Zerosanity thread, though.
Yes I did. and now thanks to you I'm In LOVE with a girl who I once dismissed as "Just another linux variant" Redhat-tan! ^____^
Quote from: "C-chan"Very well, C-chan shall concede and type up an epic poem of sky-high raunchiness.... ^___^
^__^ Yaay, *lecherous chuckle*
Quote from: "C-chan"Or more specifically, C-chan will issue RAINCHECKs for said poem.
*falls flat on face*
Oh well, Cee does always hold true to his raincheks. (That just hit me, do you mind if I call you that?)
Quote from: "C-chan"Excellent. ^^
Of the little preconcepts that I had of her, Mama BSD would appear to have a mature beauty, and would also be fairly self-conscious about that beauty, to the point of being a touch hedonistic. She loves her daughters, but carries on the tradition of tough love in that she doesn't hold them back as they all scatter far far away from her (and the rest of the traditional Unix base).
Seems her design is comming along quite nicely.
That just reminded me though, the Unix family tree is more like a zoo.
And though she is a bit -out of the ordinary- I still can't help but gawk over how cute that giraffe girl is.
.......uhh....What was her name again? ^__^;;;
Quote from: "C-chan"Incidentally, you drew an MSPaint picture of yourself inside a vat of sap, no? ^^;
Hey, is there room for more in there?
*jumps into the sap bucket with bella*
Add inferno-chan and we'd be hot tubbin'....or sitting in molasses..
Quote from: "Bella"*tears up C-Chan's raincheck*
^///////////////^
Ahahaha. It is useless, I've already made a mental note and I shall keep reminding C-chan until he gets it done.
That's all I have for this topic.
Seeya!
Don't worry, AS I HAVE ANOTHER ONE RIGHT HERE!!!!!!! ^V^
*waves raincheck around*
But okay, I admit,... this one's only for forum responses. ;____;
*cries and whimpers at lack of self-professed lechery*
Don't make me get my collection agency :P
I kid, I kid, have some DTSS-and-servant-sama:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/Copyofimg007.jpg)
And a preconcept for Uncyclopedia-tan:
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/Copyofimg008.jpg)
Sorry for the scary quality. Still figuring out my new scanner, it's ruthless when it comes to detail O___o
DTSS-tan: Very pretty! Even the servant is dressed elegantly too and much better than I visualized! (I was visualizing her as some sort of Cinderella-type figure as a maid in tattered clothes)
Uncyclopedia-tan: Schoolgirl uniform- CHECK! Also giving her short wavy brown hair can complete the Oscar Wilde reference to Uncyclopedia-tan's mentioning on Uncyclopedia's OS-tan article! :D
Uncyclopedia-tan?
WUT. LAWL. _W_
Needs moar pervy pimp pose, though.
Swoonage! There is much swoonage to be sought here. ^___^
In any event, have to step out for a while, but I'll be back to use up my proper visitation hours. ^^
Added after 8 hours 39 minutes: Quote*imagines a bunch of young Linux-tans in schoolgirl outfits*
Brrrr! Now who's flaky?!
Hey, that'd make for a very wacky high school dating sim. ^^;
*also imagines Unix schoolgirls as rivals*
QuoteWell, hopefully you'll still find a bit of free time to draw. And we're always here if you need help or suggestions
Thank you Bella-san. ^^
Right now, the only real help I need is in figuring out what to do with the BSD-tans I promised I'd help you with. You seem almost one with your Plan 9 family pic, so the window of opportunity for their inclusion is narrowing. Just wandering what you wanted to do with that, if you're still interested. '___'
QuoteAs for that goddess status of PCLOS-san...I have but one Goddess for I, and Unix-sama be thy name! And...Multics-sama. And VMS-sama. And I occasionally prostrate myself before Ubuntu-san. XD
But then we kinda drew her very goddess like, no? With that tranquil expression, calm and confident posture, hair flowing in the wind, nice tall physique,... yep, all the looks an makings of a Gentle Goddess.... ^^
Quote
Sure!
Wait...what would I be testing exactly? :P
Well,... assuming, first of all, that this game idea ever becomes a reality, you're primary duty as a tester would be to play the game and ensure it was fun and educational. If it's fun but not educational, or educational but not fun, then it needs some work. ^.^
Oh, and bug reporting would help too. ^___^
Don't worry, though, as I'd try everything to make it cross-platform (although it really would apply only to Linux/BSD, cause they're the ones that make use of BASH shells. ^^;
Quote....At any rate, that sounds like a recipe for disaster O___O
Well i said more over at our club, but,... *snaps hoof* you got it! ^__~
Quote
Like I always say about M$...I wouldn't put anything past them. But a lot of consumers seem to be getting fed up with their, to put it nicely, shenanigans...and I really can't see how M$ could lash out besides doing a lot of FUDing and frivolous SCO-like lawsuits.
Like with their dumping practices ($3 Windows XP) and they're willingness to subsidize piracy (allowing Russians who have pirated copies to pay the equivalent of $14 for their license), I think they will try harder than ever to effectively maintain their market stronghold on what accounts to bribery. That and they'll also continue to try purchasing successful small companies in order to keep them afloat.
But if cornered, they will eventually turn to lawsuits in order to outspend open source companies into submission -- assuming they're not heavily in debt, as they risked being with that Yahoo purchase.
But the day they lose their hold on the PC game market AND the business IT market (two of their largest revenue flows, and where they get the majority of their most fervent support) would be a sure sign that they're days are numbered. At that point, a serious rethink of how they run their business and WHO's running the business is necessary.
QuoteI do think that the more likely scenario would be for them to hijack a Linux distro (like one you listed), and try to take out the competition from there. I think that this happening could even more more damaging than them just attacking.
I'm telling ya, this girl is smart! ^v^
That's precisely what they're lifeline is gonna be! ^__^
I don't think it will last forever (eventually the likes of Novell will be able to govern themselves), but the damage is done in that it could corrupt and divide the Linux community into a near anarchical state (because after all, SCO doesn't own the rights to UNIX, but Novell does).
QuoteYeah, I've never done a chibi before, but I might be willing to try. I dunno if it would exactly fit GECOS-san though...I was thinking more like some kinda epic battle scene with Multics-sama or something.
Though I'm not exactly in the epic mood right now :P
Oh trust me, with the right kind of VonDaab-style pouting, I think you can knock out some very excellent chibi work of these very old gals. ^__^
QuoteThat would be nice for Unix-sama, but somehow I think it would be more difficult for her to step down than anyone else, if only for the fact that she has had such a reputation and legacy built around her (as in the 100s of operating systems that can call themselves "Unix-like")...
And "normal person" Unix-sama....I can't even process that! XD
In terms of responsiblity, yes it is currently difficult, nay impossible to step down without a worthy successor. And true, old habits will die hard. (like trying to force the Binteji Renmei members to swap Christmas for Pole Day)
But personally for her, she's tired of that legacy and reputations, and wants to spend at least a few years of her life doing something else besides fighting, brooding and crying silently. If you think about it, she's been doing that non-stop since she was born. @___@'
QuoteAnd attitude-wise, I think she'd be the original rebel in the family; after all, Berkley got into a legal battle with Bell Labs (or was it AT&T at the time?) over the code BSD contained...I don't know if BSD-tan so much disliked her mother's tactics like Plan 9-san, but she certainly took a different path than most of her family...
I also figure she'd have somewhat long (blue) hair. Her outfit I'm having some trouble with, however...
That certainly gets C-chan's stamp of approval. ^.^
Can't wait to see Mama BSD. ^___^
QuoteYep. As a matter of fact all of the SOS Brigade have been made into Mugen characters.
Haruhi, Mikuru, Yuki, Koizumi, Kyon, and even Asukara.
(the lost rule #36 "If it exists, someone somewhere will make a mugen character of it!")
I also saw a video somewhere of a giant-sized Chun Li.
................
Where can I get this MUGEN stuff again? ^______________^;
(j/k j/k)
Quote
Hmm, is this mabye the Mama BSD I keep hearing about?
Perhaps she could bear a small resemblence to NT-sama.
I think she'd be sassier than NT-sama, certainly a lot better dressed. Pretty good melee fighter too, but she'd have very powerful sorcery anyway so it'd be a moot point.
Quote
*looks at watch*
Oh, excuse me. I'm rambling on again..
Well, but bottom line is,... they called the 32X's "Mushrooms of Death" for a very good reason,... not only were they prone to failure, but if you tilted it the wrong way, you could rip off the connectors from your Genesis console. Hate to see your good system be destroyed due to a crappy add-on playing some GAWD-awful game. @____@'
Quote*falls flat on face*
Oh well, Cee does always hold true to his raincheks. (That just hit me, do you mind if I call you that?)
No problemo. Alfamille-san calls me that all the time. ^___^
BTW, I forgot,... what was that raincheck (the one Bella-sama tore up) for again? ^^;
QuoteAnd though she is a bit -out of the ordinary- I still can't help but gawk over how cute that giraffe girl is.
.......uhh....What was her name again? ^__^;;;
Nexenta-tan. ^.^
http://www.nexenta.org/os
QuoteI kid, I kid, have some DTSS-and-servant-sama:
Awww, now you've gone and done it!!! @v@
*does ol-timey style swoon, complete with harpsichord music*
QuoteYep. As a matter of fact all of the SOS Brigade have been made into Mugen characters.
Haruhi, Mikuru, Yuki, Koizumi, Kyon, and even Asukara.
(the lost rule #36 "If it exists, someone somewhere will make a mugen character of it!")
I's wanna see Mac dude and PC dude as Mugen characters!
QuoteHmm, it's pretty recent.
"Copyright 2003 by Wiley Publishing Inc."
(that's the first time I've heard the word "Copyright" used in reference to something about linux)
Oh, it's pretty new-ish....
And yes, there are copyrights in the world of Open Source stuff :P
QuoteHmm, is this mabye the Mama BSD I keep hearing about?
Perhaps she could bear a small resemblence to NT-sama.
Interestingly enough, I thought perhaps Mama BSD might bear...just a slight...resemblace to VMS-sama, as both OSs ran on VAX architectures (at first) and are both a bit rebellious :P
VMS-sama, BTW, is the mama of NT-sama....
QuoteThe Dreamcast on the other hand was revolutionary. The graphics were good, It had good games, (Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Phantasy Star online, Ect.) and was even one of the very first consoles to feature Online play.
It struggled with a few things though, that would eventually cause it's downfall.
The first and most notable was this: It had to compete with the PS2.
(back in the console wars Sony pretty much crushed all who opposed it.)
It was also the only system capable of playing Homebrew games, Imports, and Roms right out of the box without any modding or additions.
This was good for gamers, but bad for Sega.
The online play too suffered, it had very few games that supported it. and eventually because of server problems, started charging money for it.
I heard Dreamcast was very advanced....but I can see where competing with the PS2 would be very bad : |
QuoteYes I did. and now thanks to you I'm In LOVE with a girl who I once dismissed as "Just another linux variant" Redhat-tan! ^____^
Oooh, RHL-tan. I wonder what each of our favorite Linux-tans are? Mine are Slackware-chan, Ubuntu-san, and PCLOS-san, in no particular order...
QuoteHey, is there room for more in there?
*jumps into the sap bucket with bella*
Add inferno-chan and we'd be hot tubbin'....or sitting in molasses..
Oh wow, that sounds like a comic I came up with. No, no, not a Sap-tub, but where FreeBSD-tan uses Inferno-chan to make a makeshift jacuzzi. Out of an ice-skating rink.
And yes, it makes more sense than it sounds...XD
QuoteDTSS-tan: Very pretty! Even the servant is dressed elegantly too and much better than I visualized! (I was visualizing her as some sort of Cinderella-type figure as a maid in tattered clothes)
Yes, although she's rather "indentured" to her mistress, DTSS-tan is very reliant on her and therefore treats her with the utmost respect and affection. That said, DTSS-tan is a very kind and gentle soul; even without being so bound to her servant, she'd treat her very well.
QuoteUncyclopedia-tan: Schoolgirl uniform- CHECK! Also giving her short wavy brown hair can complete the Oscar Wilde reference to Uncyclopedia-tan's mentioning on Uncyclopedia's OS-tan article!
Yep, the hair was something of a reference to Oscar Wilde...
QuoteUncyclopedia-tan?
WUT. LAWL. _W_
Needs moar pervy pimp pose, though.
You haven't seen her in action, yet! :P
QuoteHey, that'd make for a very wacky high school dating sim. ^^;
*also imagines Unix schoolgirls as rivals*
Oh yeah, and Slackware-chan would always being trying to get in the Unix girl cliques ^_^
It just occurred to me...why do I always call her Slackware-chan? She's the oldest Linux-tan in the bunch. She should be Slackware-sama if anything :P
QuoteThank you Bella-san. ^^
Right now, the only real help I need is in figuring out what to do with the BSD-tans I promised I'd help you with. You seem almost one with your Plan 9 family pic, so the window of opportunity for their inclusion is narrowing. Just wandering what you wanted to do with that, if you're still interested. '___'
Oh course I'd be interested! I just didn't know how you wanted to include the BSDs though : \
QuoteBut then we kinda drew her very goddess like, no? With that tranquil expression, calm and confident posture, hair flowing in the wind, nice tall physique,... yep, all the looks an makings of a Gentle Goddess.... ^^
*dreamy sigh*
QuoteWell,... assuming, first of all, that this game idea ever becomes a reality, you're primary duty as a tester would be to play the game and ensure it was fun and educational. If it's fun but not educational, or educational but not fun, then it needs some work. ^.^
Oh, and bug reporting would help too. ^___^
Don't worry, though, as I'd try everything to make it cross-platform (although it really would apply only to Linux/BSD, cause they're the ones that make use of BASH shells. ^^;
Oh, so I take it that would be a program for teaching commands, right? Sounds pretty interesting...
And if it could teach me to use a command line, it could teach anyone :P
QuoteLike with their dumping practices ($3 Windows XP) and they're willingness to subsidize piracy (allowing Russians who have pirated copies to pay the equivalent of $14 for their license), I think they will try harder than ever to effectively maintain their market stronghold on what accounts to bribery. That and they'll also continue to try purchasing successful small companies in order to keep them afloat.
But if cornered, they will eventually turn to lawsuits in order to outspend open source companies into submission -- assuming they're not heavily in debt, as they risked being with that Yahoo purchase.
But the day they lose their hold on the PC game market AND the business IT market (two of their largest revenue flows, and where they get the majority of their most fervent support) would be a sure sign that they're days are numbered. At that point, a serious rethink of how they run their business and WHO's running the business is necessary.
I don't think they can ever be "heavily in debt"... they're worth more than some small nations :P
And I don't see how they could ever lose their PC gaming stranglehold. IT, maybe, but I've always seen Windows as the best gaming platform (like it or not -___-)
But I could be wrong...
QuoteI'm telling ya, this girl is smart! ^v^
That's precisely what they're lifeline is gonna be! ^__^
I don't think it will last forever (eventually the likes of Novell will be able to govern themselves), but the damage is done in that it could corrupt and divide the Linux community into a near anarchical state (because after all, SCO doesn't own the rights to UNIX, but Novell does).
Besides causing a lot of devision, I think they could likely attempt a Windows-like takeover except with a Linux distro (IE, gaining 90+ percent of the market share)...I don't know if that would be as effective today as it was in the 1990s, though...
I'm being doomy and gloomy, huh -___-
QuoteOh trust me, with the right kind of VonDaab-style pouting, I think you can knock out some very excellent chibi work of these very old gals. ^__^
Maybe someone like WAITS-tan would be a better candidate for a chibi version...at least she's quite light-hearted and cheery already...
Somehow chibis always seem to lend themselves to more fun characters (although I have seen chibi renditions of serious types, it's just my opinion)...
QuoteIn terms of responsiblity, yes it is currently difficult, nay impossible to step down without a worthy successor. And true, old habits will die hard. (like trying to force the Binteji Renmei members to swap Christmas for Pole Day)
*imagines Binteji Renmei Festivus*
Wow, that would make for one heckuva "Airing of Grievances"
*imagines Vintage-tans getting books n' stuff hurled at them*
Heeheeehee....
QuoteBut personally for her, she's tired of that legacy and reputations, and wants to spend at least a few years of her life doing something else besides fighting, brooding and crying silently. If you think about it, she's been doing that non-stop since she was born. @___@'
Oh man...you just made the Sap-O-Meter jump up a few notches, there ;015
I'm sure she's tired of it, but she is tied to quite a reputation. If you think about it, for its somewhat humble roots, Unix is one of the only ancient operating systems which still garners respect in people's minds today. Perhaps the greatest and/or saddest, part of Unix-sama's story is that her creators never intended her to find so much power and fame...
QuoteThat certainly gets C-chan's stamp of approval. ^.^
Can't wait to see Mama BSD. ^___^
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/img020.jpg)
Will you settle for lil' Mama BSD-tan? Well, not that little, teenage. I tried to give her a futuristic schoolgirl kinda outfit (given the "academic" nature of the original BSD).
Oh yeah, and that's Plan 9-tan at a similar age. Notice that she's a bit shorter, less mature looking, and...a lot more like her mother when it comes to dressing. These are references to Plan 9 being "more Unix than Unix"...
QuoteI think she'd be sassier than NT-sama, certainly a lot better dressed. Pretty good melee fighter too, but she'd have very powerful sorcery anyway so it'd be a moot point.
Woot melee fighting! Sorcery! My favorites! I can see where BSD-tan could be a very interesting character....
Though, c'mon, NT-sama's pretty sassy. She managed to help topple the Unix sever empire with that sass alone T__T
QuoteAwww, now you've gone and done it!!! @v@
*does ol-timey style swoon, complete with harpsichord music*
Here, have some NeXTSTEP-tan in a gown!
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/img019.jpg)
I was reading about NeXTSETP...besides being one of the most well-designed Unix systems, it was a very (GUI) attractive OS for the time. While it may have only one decedent, OS X, NeXTSTEP's GUI design elements went on to influence most of our modern GUIs...
OH DEAR LORD!
Look at what I found going though ++'s image archive! But I uploaded it to my photobucket account since I dunno if I can link images from there...
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/1111702579556.jpg)
OMG! A....a...Unix-tan...! And NeXTSTEP-tan (unless it is a -tan of the company, NeXT). But at least she has pigtails like Aurora's version. And BeOS-tan's hairdo makes her look like she's had her highlights done at VMS-sama's hairdresser...
I can't get over that Unix-tan...she's too cheery XD
QuoteOh, it's pretty new-ish....
And yes, there are copyrights in the world of Open Source stuff :P
Yeah, in fact the General Public License can't be what it is today without copyrights. Sometimes copyrights and patents get mixed up together, but they really are totally different things (and in the case of software patents, completely absent in most parts of the world).
QuoteInterestingly enough, I thought perhaps Mama BSD might bear...just a slight...resemblace to VMS-sama, as both OSs ran on VAX architectures (at first) and are both a bit rebellious :P
VMS-sama, BTW, is the mama of NT-sama....
And both have blue hair, 'nuff said. ^^
But I think that's where similarities end. Personality-wise, we're talking VERY disparate characters. ^^;
QuoteI heard Dreamcast was very advanced....but I can see where competing with the PS2 would be very bad : |
Had Sega stuck with it, I think they would've been able to improvise a strong foothold in the gaming market, as only a 1/4 of the PS2's superiority was based on actual technical merit (and even at that, the Dreamcast had built-in anti-aliasing, which made the games look clean and advanced, rather than jagged and flickery like on the PS2). The rest was based on hype, and the games it managed to accrue.
With more responsible leadership, Sega could've put up a good fight, not unlike how it did with the Genesis vs. the Super Nintendo, and not unlike how now the Wii has done well even despite the primitive graphics power.
But then, we're also talking about the same company that created the 32X Mushroom of Death, and completely botched the Sega Saturn.
QuoteOooh, RHL-tan. I wonder what each of our favorite Linux-tans are? Mine are Slackware-chan, Ubuntu-san, and PCLOS-san, in no particular order...
PCLOS-tan, SAM-chan, the Damn Smalls, Momonga, Musix, Fried Chicken,.... and all the rest of the Linuces!!! I love 'em all! ^V^
(except maybe SUSE-tan, Xandros-tan, Linspire-tan annd TurboLinux-san,... they're on my naughty list. >__<)
QuoteOh wow, that sounds like a comic I came up with. No, no, not a Sap-tub, but where FreeBSD-tan uses Inferno-chan to make a makeshift jacuzzi. Out of an ice-skating rink.
And yes, it makes more sense than it sounds...XD
I'm tellin' ya, you need to draw chibis! That sounds so cute, and even cuter in chibi form! ^v^
QuoteYes, although she's rather "indentured" to her mistress, DTSS-tan is very reliant on her and therefore treats her with the utmost respect and affection. That said, DTSS-tan is a very kind and gentle soul; even without being so bound to her servant, she'd treat her very well.
Indeed, DTSS-sama has a certain Belldandy-like charm to her, and her servent is (or was) quite cute herself. Hate to see such a gorgeous gal be all depressed, but alas,... even with Lisa-sama, a lot of hearts from afar where broken when she decided to close her own. -v-
QuoteIt just occurred to me...why do I always call her Slackware-chan? She's the oldest Linux-tan in the bunch. She should be Slackware-sama if anything :P
Well no, cause we're talking about her from the prespective of UNIX-sama, and UNIX-sama loves to belittle her with the -chan title. Probably has become something of an injoke with all the other Unices and Linuces, even those way younger than her. ^^;
QuoteOh course I'd be interested! I just didn't know how you wanted to include the BSDs though : \
Okay, in that case, please stand by. I'm not really sure how much we can get done, but at least we can improvise something. -v-
QuoteOh, so I take it that would be a program for teaching commands, right? Sounds pretty interesting...
And if it could teach me to use a command line, it could teach anyone :P
Assuming I could do it one day. BIG difference between an idea and reality. More than likely I'll work on it on my own for a while, until all the principle art is in there and some introductory levels are ready (in what I call the "/home" world). Then I'll probably post it up as an official project. ^^
QuoteI don't think they can ever be "heavily in debt"... they're worth more than some small nations :P
Oh, there's a big difference between how much you're worth, and how much you'll be worth in the day of tomorrow. ^____^'
The SCO group was worth quite a lot of money back in its day, but thanks to all these scandals and the loss of business, the company is now worthless and its stock has dropped to being traded for pennies. That makes the multi-million dollar "rescue" even more suspicious than it already is.
The one leverage that M$ has is that everyone thinks its invincible. The day they lose that "invincibility" is the day they'll have what's coming. ^^
QuoteAnd I don't see how they could ever lose their PC gaming stranglehold. IT, maybe, but I've always seen Windows as the best gaming platform (like it or not -___-)
But I could be wrong...
I'm sure the Commodore 64 owners would've said the same thing about their console. Or the Super Nintendo owners who vowed to be Nintendo fans for life. But gamers can be a fickle bunch, and will follow whatever's the latest, greatest and most immersive. (don't forget about all the people who've vowed to use Vista just because of DX10).
If some OTHER platform or computer starts offering the best and most cuttin edge games (by whooing developers, first and foremost), then you won't just see M$ losing its gaming stronghold, but simply history repeating itself yet again. The same will happen to that system, then the one after that, and so on and so forth.
Nothing's forever, especially in a consumer-based society. ^.^
QuoteBesides causing a lot of devision, I think they could likely attempt a Windows-like takeover except with a Linux distro (IE, gaining 90+ percent of the market share)...I don't know if that would be as effective today as it was in the 1990s, though...
I'm being doomy and gloomy, huh -___-
Well I always said that if M$ cared about maintaining its Windows legacy, they could open source Windows 3.1 and see how far the fans take it to new heights. Sure, it would be a toy OS at first (the way Darwin OS was), but sooner rather than later it will start to have DVD playback functionality, Compiz Fusion integration, clustering support, etc.
Then again, 3.1-sama would also get forked into countless other separate projects, some competing with Linux and BSD, others merging with them. In a way, with such a HUGE user and developer base, an Open Sourced 3.1-sama could quickly become M$' own worst enemy, hence the reason why they'd never do it (not without a bunch of seemingly crazy restrictions). ^____^'
Plus I reckon,... like IBM,... they probably just,..... forgot where her source code is..... ^v^;
QuoteMaybe someone like WAITS-tan would be a better candidate for a chibi version...at least she's quite light-hearted and cheery already...
Somehow chibis always seem to lend themselves to more fun characters (although I have seen chibi renditions of serious types, it's just my opinion)...
Ever seen my Linux and Mac System 7 chibis? Yeah, they're not cheery. ^v^
No but trust me, I think even a MULTICS chibi would look great. Besides, as you say, there are a wealth of other characters you've drawn that could make good chibis, not the least of which is:
- WAITS-san
- ITS-san
- Slackware-chan
- Puppy-chan
etc etc. ^.^
Quote*imagines Binteji Renmei Festivus*
Wow, that would make for one heckuva "Airing of Grievances"
*imagines Vintage-tans getting books n' stuff hurled at them*
Heeheeehee....
ROTFL!!!! ^V^
QuoteOh man...you just made the Sap-O-Meter jump up a few notches, there
I'm sure she's tired of it, but she is tied to quite a reputation. If you think about it, for its somewhat humble roots, Unix is one of the only ancient operating systems which still garners respect in people's minds today. Perhaps the greatest and/or saddest, part of Unix-sama's story is that her creators never intended her to find so much power and fame...
Indeed. -__-
Betcha she's one of those people who, if she hears that "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" phase uttered ONE MORE TIME....!!! Well, let's just say that the local library would run out of books.... ^v^;
QuoteWill you settle for lil' Mama BSD-tan? Well, not that little, teenage. I tried to give her a futuristic schoolgirl kinda outfit (given the "academic" nature of the original BSD).
Oh yeah, and that's Plan 9-tan at a similar age. Notice that she's a bit shorter, less mature looking, and...a lot more like her mother when it comes to dressing. These are references to Plan 9 being "more Unix than Unix"...
Oh, you ARE trying to kill me with cute, aren't ya?! ^v^;
*nosebleeds and swoons*
I believe the right term for the young MamaBSD is "hawt", although I'm wondering if she should have some horns or not. And the young Plan 9-chan, with drooped bunny ears for pigtails,........ @v@
*squeals*
I'm sorry, I just gotta squeeze her now!!!! ^V^
I'll do my best to aim for her cheecks!! ^o^
*hurls at Plan 9*
QuoteThough, c'mon, NT-sama's pretty sassy. She managed to help topple the Unix sever empire with that sass alone T__T [/quote\
Oh, but that's just prowess. Otherwise, personality-wise, she strikes me as a mellow-type. MamaBSD-sama, though, has spice and rhythm, and a swagger to her hips and the like. She's flaming hot and passionate,... well okay, maybe not that much, but well,... she makes it easy to understand why half her daughters are the way they are. ^.^;
QuoteHere, have some NeXTSTEP-tan in a gown!
I was reading about NeXTSETP...besides being one of the most well-designed Unix systems, it was a very (GUI) attractive OS for the time. While it may have only one decedent, OS X, NeXTSTEP's GUI design elements went on to influence most of our modern GUIs...
Oh, COME ON....! Now you're doing it on purpose! ;^0^;
*C-chan EXPLODES*
QuoteOH DEAR LORD!
Look at what I found going though ++'s image archive! But I uploaded it to my photobucket account since I dunno if I can link images from there...
OMG! A....a...Unix-tan...! And NeXTSTEP-tan (unless it is a -tan of the company, NeXT). But at least she has pigtails like Aurora's version. And BeOS-tan's hairdo makes her look like she's had her highlights done at VMS-sama's hairdresser...
I can't get over that Unix-tan...she's too cheery XD
BWAHAHA!!! I know... ^___^
Hey, since you were talking about a world full of Damn Small everything,... here's a small glimpse of what Damn Small UNIX, NetBSD, NextSTEP and BeOS would look like! ^v^;
(fortunately, this FreeBSD-tan looks similar to DSBSD too. ^.^)
They're very cute, but from the cookie-cutter approach, I'm not really sure if the author intended them to be more than one-shots. ^^'
Still, consider it some inspiration for Bella-style chibis. In fact, when I first saw them, I thought for a moment that YOU had drawn them, and was getting ready to unleash a barrage of swoonage. ^.^;
QuotePCLOS-tan, SAM-chan, the Damn Smalls, Momonga, Musix, Fried Chicken,.... and all the rest of the Linuces!!! I love 'em all! ^V^
(except maybe SUSE-tan, Xandros-tan, Linspire-tan annd TurboLinux-san,... they're on my naughty list. >__<)
Yeah, I think I like them all too. I like just about all of the OS-tans heehee...
QuoteI'm tellin' ya, you need to draw chibis! That sounds so cute, and even cuter in chibi form! ^v^
*points C-Chan toward my thread*
But yes, I'd really like to draw this comic...it will have a bit of drama, too....
QuoteIndeed, DTSS-sama has a certain Belldandy-like charm to her, and her servent is (or was) quite cute herself. Hate to see such a gorgeous gal be all depressed, but alas,... even with Lisa-sama, a lot of hearts from afar where broken when she decided to close her own. -v-
Well...I think DTSS-sama is far from depressed...quite the opposite, I believe...
QuoteWell no, cause we're talking about her from the prespective of UNIX-sama, and UNIX-sama loves to belittle her with the -chan title. Probably has become something of an injoke with all the other Unices and Linuces, even those way younger than her. ^^;
I see...that's what she gets for being the most wannabe Unixy distro T__T
QuoteOkay, in that case, please stand by. I'm not really sure how much we can get done, but at least we can improvise something. -v-
Hmmm...I could always provide help with some sketches...(just posing and such)...
QuoteOh, there's a big difference between how much you're worth, and how much you'll be worth in the day of tomorrow. ^____^'
The SCO group was worth quite a lot of money back in its day, but thanks to all these scandals and the loss of business, the company is now worthless and its stock has dropped to being traded for pennies. That makes the multi-million dollar "rescue" even more suspicious than it already is.
The one leverage that M$ has is that everyone thinks its invincible. The day they lose that "invincibility" is the day they'll have what's coming. ^^
True...but SCO wasn't worth a half a bajillion dollars -___-
QuoteI'm sure the Commodore 64 owners would've said the same thing about their console. Or the Super Nintendo owners who vowed to be Nintendo fans for life. But gamers can be a fickle bunch, and will follow whatever's the latest, greatest and most immersive. (don't forget about all the people who've vowed to use Vista just because of DX10).
If some OTHER platform or computer starts offering the best and most cuttin edge games (by whooing developers, first and foremost), then you won't just see M$ losing its gaming stronghold, but simply history repeating itself yet again. The same will happen to that system, then the one after that, and so on and so forth.
Nothing's forever, especially in a consumer-based society. ^.^
True. I don't game anyhow, so I really don't give a darn. But I do know of many (insert console name) fans who have switched to their competitor due to game selection or trends...
QuoteWell I always said that if M$ cared about maintaining its Windows legacy, they could open source Windows 3.1 and see how far the fans take it to new heights. Sure, it would be a toy OS at first (the way Darwin OS was), but sooner rather than later it will start to have DVD playback functionality, Compiz Fusion integration, clustering support, etc.
Then again, 3.1-sama would also get forked into countless other separate projects, some competing with Linux and BSD, others merging with them. In a way, with such a HUGE user and developer base, an Open Sourced 3.1-sama could quickly become M$' own worst enemy, hence the reason why they'd never do it (not without a bunch of seemingly crazy restrictions). ^____^'
Plus I reckon,... like IBM,... they probably just,..... forgot where her source code is..... ^v^;
Oh yeah, I'm sure even if M$...or IBM...had the means, they wouldn't open source their old systems. It's too big of a threat to their current OSs....
I didn't know Darwin was a toy at first, though :3
QuoteEver seen my Linux and Mac System 7 chibis? Yeah, they're not cheery. ^v^
No but trust me, I think even a MULTICS chibi would look great. Besides, as you say, there are a wealth of other characters you've drawn that could make good chibis, not the least of which is:
- WAITS-san
- ITS-san
- Slackware-chan
- Puppy-chan
etc etc. ^.^
I was thinking about OS/2-tan after I wrote this...But a Multics-sama chibi!? If the Mother Goddess was existent, she'd throw a....a...something at you! :P
Like I said before, I drew a (distro-tan) chibi, she's posted in my thread....
QuoteIndeed. -__-
Betcha she's one of those people who, if she hears that "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" phase uttered ONE MORE TIME....!!! Well, let's just say that the local library would run out of books.... ^v^;
*looks at Unix-sama*
They say, With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility....
*runs like hell*
QuoteI believe the right term for the young MamaBSD is "hawt", although I'm wondering if she should have some horns or not. And the young Plan 9-chan, with drooped bunny ears for pigtails,........ @v@
I dunno if she should have horns, either...cause wasn't the Daemon mascot used mostly for FreeBSD (and I guess NetBSD at first)....?
QuoteOh, but that's just prowess. Otherwise, personality-wise, she strikes me as a mellow-type. MamaBSD-sama, though, has spice and rhythm, and a swagger to her hips and the like. She's flaming hot and passionate,... well okay, maybe not that much, but well,... she makes it easy to understand why half her daughters are the way they are. ^.^;
Nuthin' like a mellow gal with a sword!
But wow, MamaBSD-san really fell far, far, from the Unix tree...considering some of her relatives, she practically came from a different orchard!
QuoteBWAHAHA!!! I know... ^___^
That Unix-sama looks happy and at peace.
But our Unix-sama...what with the dark clothes and hair, boots and horn-rimmed glasses....could front one spectacular emo band!
*continues to run like hell*
*gets chased down by Unix-sama, and beaten with bag of pennies*
QuoteHey, since you were talking about a world full of Damn Small everything,... here's a small glimpse of what Damn Small UNIX, NetBSD, NextSTEP and BeOS would look like! ^v^;
(fortunately, this FreeBSD-tan looks similar to DSBSD too. ^.^)
They're very cute, but from the cookie-cutter approach, I'm not really sure if the author intended them to be more than one-shots. ^^'
Still, consider it some inspiration for Bella-style chibis. In fact, when I first saw them, I thought for a moment that YOU had drawn them, and was getting ready to unleash a barrage of swoonage. ^.^;
Bwhaha! No, my chibis...aren't quite this good...^///^
EDIT:
Oh yes, I found some material for a very strange character...AMOS-tan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Microsystems
AMOS is supposedly derived from some DEC source code (TOPS-10) Alpha Microsystems stole. While a very niche system, AMOS is still used today; and Alpha Microsystems even provides a Windows-like GUI for AMOS. Therefore, I think AMOS-tan would be:
-A supposed relative of TOPS 10-tan, and our favorite Bohemian, WAITS-tan
-while she usually dresses in her own way, she enjoys Windows-tan cosplaying; XP-tan, especially.
-her current alignment would be with the CIOST, I believe
QuoteYeah, I think I like them all too. I like just about all of the OS-tans heehee...
*stares at Bella-sama's OpenVMS avatar* Are you sure? Cause the downside to that uber-cool avatar (gee, wonder where you got it from...^.^) is that now you look like you could view anyone as shark food. ^___^
QuoteHmmm...I could always provide help with some sketches...(just posing and such)...
Thank you again Bella-sama!!! ^v^
Okay, just this once, I shall sacrifice myself as shark food to please thy VMS-ness.... ^______^
*puts self on platter*
QuoteTrue...but SCO wasn't worth a half a bajillion dollars -___-
Well you know what they say... ^v^
"The Bigger You Are..."
Again, it's all about perception. That's why M$ is so keen about cornering all markets in the developing world, taking over Yahoo, all but bribing school systems into using their software, and turning a blind eye towards REAL piracy. It's not enough to just pour money left and right, because they'd soon run out of it with all the products they issue at a loss (read XBOX).
But as long as people know the brand, like the brand, are familiar with the brand, and think nothing else works BUT the brand, then they will always subconsiously want it and think it eternal. This is why companies will often blindly abide by a M$ contract, and all but blindly pay the costs of all the licenses and hardware and put up with the endless technical issues. They're familiar with it, everyone uses it, they all but take many aspects of it for granted in their own daily lives, and thus they see it as a kind of safety net.
The minute the companies are fully aware of the power of FOSS would spell trouble, which is why technical consultants (often M$ trained and paid themselves) will fight tooth and nail to discredit it (with those ubiquitous Total Cost of Ownership figures). After all, even if said companies don't plan on using Linux or FOSS, they can still use that as leverage to get better deals.
Get enough companies into that practice, and that will clearly impact M$' bottom line.
Worse still, it offers a potential conduit to abandon M$ products (or at least the threat thereof) in case they can't get what they want.
In short, all that's really needed to win the day is simple,... Don't feed the troll. ^__^
Or in this case, this perceived invincibility of such a cheeky "New Money" company, that lacks the political guile of the REAL dangerous corporate powerhouses in this world (you know, like the ones that produce war machines and drill for oil). -v-'
QuoteI didn't know Darwin was a toy at first, though :3
Oh yeah! It's functionality was squat when it was first open sourced. Their community did an excellent job of fitting in the pieces. ^.^
QuoteI was thinking about OS/2-tan after I wrote this...But a Multics-sama chibi!? If the Mother Goddess was existent, she'd throw a....a...something at you! :P
Well in fairnes,... I said I wasn't gonna make a UNIX-sama chibi for the same reason.... ^^;
QuoteI dunno if she should have horns, either...cause wasn't the Daemon mascot used mostly for FreeBSD (and I guess NetBSD at first)....?
Aa sou sou, my mistake. ^^'
But she needs some sort of protrusion, so how about just some whisps of hair that branch off (not unlike Chiivistan's feathers)?
QuoteNuthin' like a mellow gal with a sword!
But wow, MamaBSD-san really fell far, far, from the Unix tree...considering some of her relatives, she practically came from a different orchard!
Well I think you described her best as being a near Linux-sama-quality rebel back in her youth. ^___^
Course, that's died down a bit, but she still has her looks,... and her sass.... and she ain't getting any younger. ^^;
QuoteBut our Unix-sama...what with the dark clothes and hair, boots and horn-rimmed glasses....could front one spectacular emo band!
*continues to run like hell*
*gets chased down by Unix-sama, and beaten with bag of pennies*
Once you're done, remind me to look through those pennies to search for 90% copper ones. They're worth quite a bit with today's base metal prices..... ^.^
In exchange I'll give you bandaids for your wounds. ^__~
QuoteBwhaha! No, my chibis...aren't quite this good...^///^
If you were Pinocchio, you're nose would be knocking satellites off their orbit at this point.... ^^;
QuoteOh yes, I found some material for a very strange character...AMOS-tan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Microsystems
AMOS is supposedly derived from some DEC source code (TOPS-10) Alpha Microsystems stole. While a very niche system, AMOS is still used today; and Alpha Microsystems even provides a Windows-like GUI for AMOS. Therefore, I think AMOS-tan would be:
-A supposed relative of TOPS 10-tan, and our favorite Bohemian, WAITS-tan
-while she usually dresses in her own way, she enjoys Windows-tan cosplaying; XP-tan, especially.
-her current alignment would be with the CIOST, I believe
Ooohoo! What an interesting old gal! I like that. ^___^
She'd be to XP-tan as OS-9 is to Sonata-sama, with the exception that she WANTS to be confused with the young whipper-snapper. ^.^
I'm sure she could even fool the occasional Windows Fanbois.... that is, until they ask her to play them a DVD. ^^;
Most likely she also stops by the Binteji Renmei to spend time with TOPS-sama. ^__~
Quote*stares at Bella-sama's OpenVMS avatar* Are you sure? Cause the downside to that uber-cool avatar (gee, wonder where you got it from...^.^) is that now you look like you could view anyone as shark food. ^___^
I assure you I don't cannibalize my fellow OS-tans...no, I feed off of a steady diet of malicious hackers, crackers and skiddies. Sure, n00bs and people who think they can best me at Scrabble may seem tasty, but mostly I like to mop the floor with them as it were.
I'm like the Deep Blue of Scrabble playing computers.
QuoteWell you know what they say... ^v^
"The Bigger You Are..."
Again, it's all about perception. That's why M$ is so keen about cornering all markets in the developing world, taking over Yahoo, all but bribing school systems into using their software, and turning a blind eye towards REAL piracy. It's not enough to just pour money left and right, because they'd soon run out of it with all the products they issue at a loss (read XBOX).
But as long as people know the brand, like the brand, are familiar with the brand, and think nothing else works BUT the brand, then they will always subconsiously want it and think it eternal. This is why companies will often blindly abide by a M$ contract, and all but blindly pay the costs of all the licenses and hardware and put up with the endless technical issues. They're familiar with it, everyone uses it, they all but take many aspects of it for granted in their own daily lives, and thus they see it as a kind of safety net.
The minute the companies are fully aware of the power of FOSS would spell trouble, which is why technical consultants (often M$ trained and paid themselves) will fight tooth and nail to discredit it (with those ubiquitous Total Cost of Ownership figures). After all, even if said companies don't plan on using Linux or FOSS, they can still use that as leverage to get better deals.
I see what you mean...but honestly, I think the public is starting to see that M$ isn't as rosy as the once thought they were.
I saw a great show a few days back on the Discovery Channel that seemed to cast M$ in this light...perhaps I'll elaborate in the MEWXPZLFUDAWV Club thread...
QuoteGet enough companies into that practice, and that will clearly impact M$' bottom line.
Worse still, it offers a potential conduit to abandon M$ products (or at least the threat thereof) in case they can't get what they want.
In short, all that's really needed to win the day is simple,... Don't feed the troll. ^__^
Or in this case, this perceived invincibility of such a cheeky "New Money" company, that lacks the political guile of the REAL dangerous corporate powerhouses in this world (you know, like the ones that produce war machines and drill for oil). -v-'
I know what you mean...the ship has certainly sailed for me ever buying an Windows equipped computer again -___-
QuoteWell in fairnes,... I said I wasn't gonna make a UNIX-sama chibi for the same reason.... ^^;
Ahaha!
QuoteAa sou sou, my mistake. ^^'
But she needs some sort of protrusion, so how about just some whisps of hair that branch off (not unlike Chiivistan's feathers)?
Exactly what I thought, exactly!
QuoteWell I think you described her best as being a near Linux-sama-quality rebel back in her youth. ^___^
Course, that's died down a bit, but she still has her looks,... and her sass.... and she ain't getting any younger. ^^;
You make me wonder how BSD-san and Linux-sama get along ^_^
I know that if BSD had been available (legally) at the time, Torvalds may have never started the Linux kernel...so I imagine that the two -tans would have a rather strange friendship...if any...
QuoteOnce you're done, remind me to look through those pennies to search for 90% copper ones. They're worth quite a bit with today's base metal prices..... ^.^
In exchange I'll give you bandaids for your wounds. ^__~
Oh, yeah, I just got beaten for saying Unix-sama would make a good emo band fronwoman...and you ask me to find the copper pennies!?
QuoteIf you were Pinocchio, you're nose would be knocking satellites off their orbit at this point.... ^^;
*frames line*
Okay, okay, maybe you have me there. Maybe.
QuoteOoohoo! What an interesting old gal! I like that. ^___^
She'd be to XP-tan as OS-9 is to Sonata-sama, with the exception that she WANTS to be confused with the young whipper-snapper. ^.^
I'm sure she could even fool the occasional Windows Fanbois.... that is, until they ask her to play them a DVD. ^^;
Most likely she also stops by the Binteji Renmei to spend time with TOPS-sama. ^__~
I told ya she was quite interesting :)
I have a quick questions...
Does anyone have any idea how tall the OS-tan are?
Hmm...
I'm pretty sure there's some stats somewhere - you might want to look in the Wiki, and if that yields nothing, try scouring the gallery.
I've checked wiki and and gallery u__u
Hm. Then we've got a promblem. With an extra m.
You might want to try Danbooru (http://danbooru.donmai.us/). Just search for OS (acc is needed, though). Otherwise, this site (http://kazumi386.org/~ostan2/pic_uploader/) might help you, but you'll need a proxy to access it, and it's in japanese, so you'll have to ground around a bit to find yourself around. If you don't have a proxy, just download some reasonably good Add-On (if you use Firefox, that is, which I hope you do) for proxy use, like PhProxy. us.feuvan.net is a good config server, I might add. If you have it already, swoon away.
QuoteI assure you I don't cannibalize my fellow OS-tans...no, I feed off of a steady diet of malicious hackers, crackers and skiddies. Sure, n00bs and people who think they can best me at Scrabble may seem tasty, but mostly I like to mop the floor with them as it were.
I'm like the Deep Blue of Scrabble playing computers.
Well given I am a hacker now (although the good kind) doesn't fill me with any sense of confidence. ^^'
QuoteI see what you mean...but honestly, I think the public is starting to see that M$ isn't as rosy as the once thought they were.
I saw a great show a few days back on the Discovery Channel that seemed to cast M$ in this light...perhaps I'll elaborate in the MEWXPZLFUDAWV Club thread...
Fufu... more obscure TV references. ^^;
But this one looks interesting,... probably will scour the web for a clip of some kind. ^.^
Although I do kinda get enough of that reading Groklaw.net. ^^
QuoteYou make me wonder how BSD-san and Linux-sama get along
I know that if BSD had been available (legally) at the time, Torvalds may have never started the Linux kernel...so I imagine that the two -tans would have a rather strange friendship...if any...
Hmm,... never really thought of that, now that you mention it. @@'
When imaging Linux-sama and UNIX-sama having their discussions, I never once thought that BSD-sama might butt in. I think she'd be cordial,... but not much else. '___'
However, FreeB-chan and Linux-sama do have a very strange friendship, I can assure you of that. ^____^
QuoteOh, yeah, I just got beaten for saying Unix-sama would make a good emo band fronwoman...and you ask me to find the copper pennies!?
Well,.... yeah! Consider it an honor to count the pennies that you just got beaten with by Her! ^0^
*claps hooves together in praise*
QuoteI have a quick questions...
Does anyone have any idea how tall the OS-tan are?
Well the canon OS-tans don't have any official heights.
I guesstimated some here in my old Annex:
http://ostan-collections.net/topic-231.html
...based around a presumed height of 153cm for Windows ME. But other than that, heights are purely based on artistic license.
Course, most of our homebrewed OS-tans have definite heights. ^^
!!! I was worried I'd be too tall!! But I'm too short!!!
* dances *
Oh NOW you've got me worried.
Shorter than 153 cm? Hell, and here people think below 160 is mini-mini. Crikey!
I'm 149 cm ^ ^;; Not that much shorter...
*shuffles in*
QuoteWell given I am a hacker now (although the good kind) doesn't fill me with any sense of confidence. ^^'
No worries, VMS-sama likes nice hackers ^_^
QuoteFufu... more obscure TV references. ^^;
But this one looks interesting,... probably will scour the web for a clip of some kind. ^.^
Although I do kinda get enough of that reading Groklaw.net. ^^
I wrote more about it in the MEWXPZLFUDAWV Club thread, but I tell you...that show was pure gold!
QuoteHmm,... never really thought of that, now that you mention it. @@'
I know...I can hone in on sap from a mile away!
QuoteWhen imaging Linux-sama and UNIX-sama having their discussions, I never once thought that BSD-sama might butt in. I think she'd be cordial,... but not much else. '___'
However, FreeB-chan and Linux-sama do have a very strange friendship, I can assure you of that. ^____^
Oooh, so BSD-tan's a bit of a snoop! Doesn't like the "new girl" hanging out with Unix-sama! As for FreeB-chan and Linux-sama....hmmm...I know their supporters can range from friendly to each other to rabid fanboys, so I wonder how they'd get along :P
QuoteWell,.... yeah! Consider it an honor to count the pennies that you just got beaten with by Her! ^0^
*claps hooves together in praise*
*dreamy sigh*
Now I know how Slackware-chan feels.
*dreamy sigh*
QuoteWell the canon OS-tans don't have any official heights.
I guesstimated some here in my old Annex:
http://ostan-collections.net/topic-231.html
...based around a presumed height of 153cm for Windows ME. But other than that, heights are purely based on artistic license.
Course, most of our homebrewed OS-tans have definite heights. ^^
Though there are certain groups that have a general height, I think...I know the BSD-tans are a bit on the tallish side, while the more original Unix-tans are quite short. Speaking of which...
I've been thinking of doing a drawing of Solaris-tan....so I researched the OS a bit. A few interesting points I came up with:
-Solaris is based heavily off of SunOS; would SunOS be Solaris-tan's younger self, or her mother or something?
-Solaris is based off of both System V and BSD code; I guess Solaris-tan would be rather impartial to both sides of the Unix family.
-Solaris was closed source for a very long time, and is just now being opened; I guess Solaris-tan would have then been a vehement closed-source type, until having some kind of epiphany in 2004 (although, one wonders what would make her have such a change of heart...). Unless, of course, there should be an OpenSolaris-tan, but I think it's better to have OpenSolaris and Solaris be one character.
-Project Indiana aims to give (or has given) OpenSolaris the ability to run GNOME and GNU tools...methinks Solaris-tan might tread a bit on Linux-sama's territory (though this has been insinuated before)
After reading about Solaris, from its roots as SunOS to the current projects involving making it an open sourse system of a Linux caliber, I can say Solaris-tan is a very interesting character. And while I may still be at a complete and utter loss for her battle suit, I've thought up an incredible defense ability of hers...
When you think of the sun, what comes to mind? No, I don't mean fire, cause Inferno-chan and Unix-sama(?) already have the ability to control fire and we don't want it being cliched. No, I mean the other thing that comes to mind when one thinks of the sun....a magnetic field!
Okay, okay, a magnetic field may not sound too interesting as a defensive power. But I imagine Solaris-tan would be able to deflect any kind of power coming her way in a battle, and even turn that power back on the person it came from. Plus, when confronted with attack, her magnetic field would probably light up in a spectacular way (think, the Northern Lights).
Whadya think?
*shuffles out*
QuoteI'm 149 cm ^ ^;; Not that much shorter...
O_o
149...cm...you say...?
Are you sure you aren't a hobbit, lass? And here I am, thinking I'm not that tall, and I'm 187...bloody hael. Genetics, huh... *feels like a giant*
I'm an entire three cm away from being a midget! xD So there!
My onii-san is 198 cm o_O
Har har har XD Contrasts, lass, contrasts! >w<
Also, HILARITY.
Tee hee... such is my life ^ ^;;
I'm, like, 170 cm tall...if I did my math right...
5'8? o.o You're tall..
Oopsie, I must have done the math wrong. I'm closer to 5' 6'' ^///^
Clearly I don't use the metric system much ;)
Seriously - why won't the americuns just learn to use the metric system already? I mean, it's so much simpler! Just take a lot of tens on each other! Man! What's so complicated about it?
o.o I like inches... they're so... freindly.
In what way, exactly...? Plus, the other units are weird. One mile is how many feet? While one km is exactly 1000 m, and one metric mile is exactly 10000 m. Now THAT's what I call friendly.
But we're carrying the whole place off-topic right now, aren't we -.-;
Yeah ;_; Is there a metric tan? xD
Whoa!
Surprising idea, i must say! I believe not, though, but around here we have traditions of making ideas reality... ^^
Although I'm fairly sure that it doesn't qualify as an OS-tan because it's, simply, not an OS or computer app, I still think it's an interesting, and thus on-topic, idea.
Tee hee... I think it's be cute ^-^ She'd be in measuring tape.
CLAD in it...and that only... >:3
Maybe a couple of rulers... :D. You could end up with something nice there...
She would be the RULER of rulers!!! XD
Hey, don't blame me, I like the metric system. It makes one helluva lot more sense than the US system; but I don't use it much outside of school : \
Metric-tan would be pretty neat, though...
Are we getting dangerously OT? Nobody even commented on Solaris-tan and her incredible magnetic field :P
I know, I know...but I'm too busy trying to multitask between maths work and forum posting so I can't help much >_> Sori! ^-^;
Well, the topic is OS-tan Theories... Ehhh ^-^ I don't know anything about Solaris-tan I'm sorry ;-; I'll draw her for you though if you give me a reference/description...(?)
QuoteI know, I know...but I'm too busy trying to multitask between maths work and forum posting so I can't help much >_> Sori! ^-^;
Maths, huh? I sympathize with you, brother! XD
QuoteWell, the topic is OS-tan Theories... Ehhh ^-^ I don't know anything about Solaris-tan I'm sorry ;-; I'll draw her for you though if you give me a reference/description...(?)
Thanks for the offer, Toki! Solaris-tan has been drawn before by Aurora (of course, this is a pretty early drawing of hers'):
(http://home.mchsi.com/~toastgirl222/randomstuff/ch-solaristan.jpg)
And I've drawn her before in group pix (she's the redhead on the far right):
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/normal_Copyofholidaybetalarge.png)
But physically, it's fairly agreed she has medium-short choppy orange hair, purple-blue eyes, and is of a rather normal build. She sometimes dresses like a waitress, but also enjoys dressing up quite elaborately, with lots gold and sun themes in her clothing. She really loves coffee, too; her special Java to be exact. While a very smart and competent, she has a very quirky side, too, much of which revolves around a strange admiration/rivalry with Linux-sama.
I could babble on, though; drawing her is up to you, but I think it'd be neat to see a Toki rendition of Solaris-tan :D
Hm! I'll see what I can do! I do have a soft spot for redheads.
Quote from: "Bella"QuoteI know, I know...but I'm too busy trying to multitask between maths work and forum posting so I can't help much >_> Sori! ^-^;
Maths, huh? I sympathize with you, brother! XD
Peh, Maths is eeaasyyy... :D it just bores the crap out of me, unless it involves some interesting "stuff" :D ;010
A few days of research in preparation makes every day in the field easier.
But to bring a new theory to light, as is the topic for this thread...
If developed as a system, how would the OS-TAN function?
After running into this place my interest for Artificial Intelligence development was once more piqued. Seeing the level at which independent/complete AI's today are - meaningly, solely theoretical and primitive - this might feel like rushing things a bit, but I normally prefer to plan ahead quite far; especially with sensitive subjects as this.
So to wrap things up, just how would a real OS-TAN function, in collaboration with the User and the rest of the system?
good question...
And as for the AI, I'm trying to figure out a basic learning protocol...But it's not as simple as i thought to implement...
Verily so. Learning protocols can be anything from simple to complex in theory, but they're never easy to implement well.
But on the subject of OS-TAN, the outcome is meant to have a human disposition and mentality, correct? Then most likely a Turing-complete simulation would be the ideal type - instead of having to implement all kinds of complex algorithms and get a software piece of unknown capabilities.
Another theory that an acquaintance of mine formulated was this:
Two functions are necessary. 1: A function that relays a GOOD or BAD signal to the program, similar to the human system of pain and pleasure. 2: A function to write results from previous actions and their GOOD or BAD signals, to give the program a memory of what things are GOOD and what are BAD. These two functions would give the program a will to strive to achieve GOOD signals, and "education" through exterior signal stimulation would enable the program to evolve - theoretically reaching high-level intelligence in a quite short time.
I myself do not see this as an ideal system, however, since I fear it might produce unwanted results in the AI.
I think that if an OS-tan was created as an actual OS, her room would be like the tower. She lives in her room, and operates it while you are on the computer. And when you're not there, she sleeps in her cute little bed. But you can take her out and play with her too and have tea parties and picnics ^___^
It'd be expensive to have an OS-tan OS... and a little unpractical o__o
But I'd want one anyway.
A little unpractical...seeing as the main idea of AI's are to enable them to work without a human overseeing them.
The idea of the Terminal Access Navigator function can also be used, but I'm still questioning its functionality.
An OS-tan would be an AI with an AI... know what I mean? Kind of like a persocom I think.
Are you thinking about physical interfaces?
If so, there are two ways of that; Either you build the OS-TAN into the interface itself, making it, essentially, a robot; Or, which was my original thought, build the OS-TAN with a function to use exterior Mindless interfaces.
I think the most simple would be an almost entirely organic solution with a wireless uplink and some sort of core computation devices implanted instead of a brain. What's lacking in that approach, though, is cheap organic material...
You could also build an androïd, and implement AI on it... But programming a predefined character would be an enourmous task because you would have to make everything compatible with the resident learning protocol...
As for a protocol all you need would be for the AI to recognize an input device and a way to let the AI remember new information... If you can do that all you have to do is teach her a language and you're off...
Kinda like Chii in Chobits...
That was basically what I meant with the first alternative - however, a Turing-complete simulation AI needs too much power; much more than what could be implanted in a theoretical Android by practical, and relatively uncostly, means. The Mindless interfaces are what I thought of as an extension into the physical world, but you still need the core computer for the sole reason of processing power.
Added after 3 minutes:
And besides - the reasonable way to create a Turin-complete simulation AI in the first place is to scan the entire subatomic structure of a predefined human brain, which includes, of course, personality, memories and knowledge (such as language). Granted, some "programming" would be necessary, but can be solved by simply studying neuropsychology, determining what brain areas refer to which function, and then change the representing binary in the AI's structure. Granted, some failures will be had, but thanks to the wonders of copy and paste, a backup of the original is so simple it's almost laughable to worry about.
This kinda makes me wonder how our brains would compare to a processor (MFLOPS, MIPS, relative MHz etc.)
QuoteHm! I'll see what I can do! I do have a soft spot for redheads.
Thank you! I might be very indebted to you :P
QuoteA few days of research in preparation makes every day in the field easier.
But to bring a new theory to light, as is the topic for this thread...
If developed as a system, how would the OS-TAN function?
After running into this place my interest for Artificial Intelligence development was once more piqued. Seeing the level at which independent/complete AI's today are - meaningly, solely theoretical and primitive - this might feel like rushing things a bit, but I normally prefer to plan ahead quite far; especially with sensitive subjects as this.
So to wrap things up, just how would a real OS-TAN function, in collaboration with the User and the rest of the system?
Do you mean...if we had real-life OS-tans, or theorizing the OS-tans are AI?
At any rate...I've never really thought of the OS-tans as being AI or anything like that...honestly, I've tried to avoid the question of what exactly an OS-tan is...
QuoteThis kinda makes me wonder how our brains would compare to a processor (MFLOPS, MIPS, relative MHz etc.)
I think I remember hearing something like...the human brain functions at a trillion "calculations" per second or something like that...we're way faster than even the best supercomputers...
Course, we don't think the same way, a computer could beat any person at mathematical stuff...but if you think about it, a brain has to control a lot more hardware and processes (the body) than any computer alive today...O__o
So we'd better improve the processors first, before overloading them with a full-body, full-function AI....
Darn...
Moore's Law states that in 20 years computers will have higher processing capacity than a human brain. And we're already broken that, with Intel's Core 2, so we will probably not have to wait all that long until we're capable of constructing Mindless interfaces with more powerful brains than our own.
AW, man! I volunteer to be the first to be fitted with cybernetic interface/parts!!! really...
I wouldn't be too quick on that if I were you, actually...if you wish to maintain your own self, that is.
While integrating a high-power processor to collaborate with the brain could be possible, it's a VERY tedious job. Thus, you made into one ideal physical interface, a Mindless, would thus be your body with all brain tissue removed and replaced by, say, spintronic storage/memory devicers, a massive processor and a few connectors to convert the neural signals to binary code and vice versa.
In other words, a hollow shell.
If you speak about Cyborg-fitting processes, now then that is an entirely different thing - which does not really belong here, though.
wouldn't there be a humanity law forcing the team to back -up all that was stored on my brain, then?
No, since the process of "clearing" humans isn't very appealing to themselves, and will thus not be done except in extreme cases such as terrorism or acts of war, where such laws are ignored and/or do not a apply in the first case.
This is the main problem with interfaces. A robotic interface is too costly and complex to develop and produce, and an organic interface needs configuration that is, to humans, simply disgusting.
well, if i could interface with a machine that could store all my "data" they could do basically anything with my body then.. as long as i would still have a body to live in... (but I'm thinking more in the way of GITS, now)
Well, the point of "clearing" a human body would be to enable the usage of the body as an interface. Ergo, it cannot have any permanently resident consciousness. And converting your neural data to binary...well, as I said before that's essentially how you construct a Turing-complete simulation AI in the first place - scan the entire brain's structure to subatomic level and convert it to binary, then simulate it as a program...so essentially YOU would be the AI, and your body would be your interface - just like before but with a few bugs and the ability to disconnect from the body and reside in digital space.
Ah well. An amusing exchange, I must say. However, it is late. I might return sometime later. Goodnight.
nicely summed up there.... ;010
and a good night to you too, sir...
Ahoyhoy....lookie at what I found...OMG! It's the legendary BSD mascot! She's really nothing like our version...but we can maybe incorperate some of these elements....
(http://tokochan.haun.org/bg.jpg)
http://tokochan.haun.org/toko01.jpg
http://tokochan.haun.org/
And OMG...A SOLARIS mascot, too!
(http://pony.tail.net/toko/toko13.jpg)
http://pony.tail.net/toko/toko14.jpg
http://pony.tail.net/toko/sol.html
Given my newfound interest in Solaris-tan...I wonder how I can fit this character into her backstory (maybe this would be Solaris while she still went by the name of SunOS-tan). She has the red hair like our version...older Solaris-tan doesn't wear glasses, but who's to say she didn't swap those out for...contacts or something...? And from the looks of it, there's a whole story written for her, too...
And just re-posting this, since it kinda got buried...
QuoteI've been thinking of doing a drawing of Solaris-tan....so I researched the OS a bit. A few interesting points I came up with:
-Solaris is based heavily off of SunOS; would SunOS be Solaris-tan's younger self, or her mother or something?
-Solaris is based off of both System V and BSD code; I guess Solaris-tan would be rather impartial to both sides of the Unix family.
-Solaris was closed source for a very long time, and is just now being opened; I guess Solaris-tan would have then been a vehement closed-source type, until having some kind of epiphany in 2004 (although, one wonders what would make her have such a change of heart...). Unless, of course, there should be an OpenSolaris-tan, but I think it's better to have OpenSolaris and Solaris be one character.
-Project Indiana aims to give (or has given) OpenSolaris the ability to run GNOME and GNU tools...methinks Solaris-tan might tread a bit on Linux-sama's territory (though this has been insinuated before)
After reading about Solaris, from its roots as SunOS to the current projects involving making it an open sourse system of a Linux caliber, I can say Solaris-tan is a very interesting character. And while I may still be at a complete and utter loss for her battle suit, I've thought up an incredible defense ability of hers...
When you think of the sun, what comes to mind? No, I don't mean fire, cause Inferno-chan and Unix-sama(?) already have the ability to control fire and we don't want it being cliched. No, I mean the other thing that comes to mind when one thinks of the sun....a magnetic field!
Okay, okay, a magnetic field may not sound too interesting as a defensive power. But I imagine Solaris-tan would be able to deflect any kind of power coming her way in a battle, and even turn that power back on the person it came from. Plus, when confronted with attack, her magnetic field would probably light up in a spectacular way (think, the Northern Lights).
QuoteAhoyhoy....lookie at what I found...OMG! It's the legendary BSD mascot! She's really nothing like our version...but we can maybe incorperate some of these elements....
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Aha! So you found her. ^^
Now you know where I got the blue hair reference from. ^^
Could be her when she was in her VERY BRIEF preschool days. ^___^'
QuoteAnd OMG...A SOLARIS mascot, too!
QuoteGiven my newfound interest in Solaris-tan...I wonder how I can fit this character into her backstory (maybe this would be Solaris while she still went by the name of SunOS-tan). She has the red hair like our version...older Solaris-tan doesn't wear glasses, but who's to say she didn't swap those out for...contacts or something...? And from the looks of it, there's a whole story written for her, too...
Ah yes, the pigtailed-girl is clearly SunOS-chan, who I've always pictured as the childhood version of Solaris-sama (just like how Project Indiana is simply Solaris-sama trying desperately to imitate her arch rival). ^v^;
Solaris-sama is still oft-overlooked, but I saw very quickly that you tried to fix that (in a sketch at least). ^^
I think I'll call it a night. Sorry for missing out on some any wonderful sketches, but you can trust me at least that I'll get to them slowly but surely, even if it takes a while. ^__^
Quote from: "Bella"
And OMG...A SOLARIS mascot, too!
Thanks for finding the early Solaris-tan Bella! Magical Toko-chan is already mentioned in our Introduction wiki article before. So thanks again! :D
Quote from: "Bella"Plus, when confronted with attack, her magnetic field would probably light up in a spectacular way (think, the Northern Lights).
...which is also called
Aurora Borealis :P
o.o;; * falls over *
QuoteAha! So you found her. ^^
Now you know where I got the blue hair reference from. ^^
Could be her when she was in her VERY BRIEF preschool days. ^___^'
I might try drawing her in that uniform...it'll be much more mature looking, of course.
QuoteAh yes, the pigtailed-girl is clearly SunOS-chan, who I've always pictured as the childhood version of Solaris-sama (just like how Project Indiana is simply Solaris-sama trying desperately to imitate her arch rival). ^v^;
Solaris-sama is still oft-overlooked, but I saw very quickly that you tried to fix that (in a sketch at least). ^^
Yeah, just like how I think a SLS Linux (the first distro, if I read correctly)-tan would be a younger version of my beloved Slackware-chan...
QuoteThanks for finding the early Solaris-tan Bella! Magical Toko-chan is already mentioned in our Introduction wiki article before. So thanks again!
I was pretty surprised by the find myself...
Quote...which is also called Aurora Borealis :P
Of course! But only in the Northern Hemisphere. In the Southern they're called aurora australis.
Incidentally, I once saw the northern lights...probably one of the most incredible things I've ever seen...
Quoteo.o;; * falls over *
I'm guessing, the cute meganekko Solaris-chan caused that swoon...?
Anyhow, you guys know how, in my many accidental blasphemings regarding Unix-sama, I tend to get a lot of literature thrown at me. Well, yesterday, I finally got hit with something more interesting than the
Unix Hater's Handbook;
the Art of Unix Programming.Now, of course, I skipped all the technical mumbo-jumbo...but I came upon what is probably the most fascinating and moving summary of the history of Unix I've ever read, from its roots in CTSS, to the cause of the Unix Wars, and its undeniable parallels with Linux. It's a bit long, but
absolutely worth a read. There are a few other interesting chapters involving the history of Unix, as well...
http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch02s01.html
Not to mention I've gotten a ton of new ideas backstory ideas for Unix-sama, Linux-sama, and the Unix family in general...
OMG!!!! @v@
Is that the UNIX equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls?!!! @o@
*holy swoon!!!!!!!!!*
QuoteOMG!!!! @v@
Is that the UNIX equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls?!!! @o@
*holy swoon!!!!!!!!!*
The Dead
C Scrolls, you mean?
But after reading that, I've discovered a lot of shocking revelations about the Unix-sama's past...
-I read that for much of its early history, Unix was, more or less, "open source" and non-commercial, and everyone was quite happy with this. Only when companies tried to commercialize Unix did the "spritz start to hit the fan", as it were; it can be argued that commercialization caused the Unix wars. I now think that, in Unix-sama's past, one of the biggest themes would be the struggle between doing what she thought was right and doing what pleased her "corporate masters".
-Bell Lab's Unix code was passed around almost without restraint...okay, well AT&T tried to restrain it, but they utterly failed. Therefore...Unix-sama was the world's first Open Sourceress!
-After a 1958 antitrust case, AT&T was forbidden to enter the computer market, so selling Unix as a product would have set them up for lawsuits. So, Ken Thompson, not being forbade from doing so, used to send out disks and tapes to potential users. Therefore...Unix-sama was quite a rebel!
Cool...Rock on, Unix-sama!!!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!! @o@
Alll these incredible edible revelations!!!!!!!!!!! ;^0^;
*rolls up article and eats it*
I'm not sure if the world is ready to handle the truth. There is dogma to maintain, peoplez! ^0^
QuoteCool...Rock on, Unix-sama!!!
Yay! Brother Smokey hath foundith the awesomeness of Unix-sama! The Goddess shall be happy! :P
QuoteOMG!!!!!!!!!!! @o@
Alll these incredible edible revelations!!!!!!!!!!! ;^0^;
*rolls up article and eats it*
I'm not sure if the world is ready to handle the truth. There is dogma to maintain, peoplez! ^0^
I know! I'd like to write more (I think I've finally figured out why Unix-sama likes Linux-sama when so many other Unix-tans don't!), but...I've been kinda busy lately...not to mention, if I go any farther, I'll be baked into a pie and served for dessert!
I was wondering, however, considering what an innovation "pipes" were in Unix, how could reference be worked into Unix-sama's backstory?
Should she....
-Have a hobby as a flautist?
-Be a really excellent pipe organist?
-Or, should she just have a trust lead pipe which she uses against those who try to mess with her? Considering she's a New Jersey native and all, this could work quite well....
she may be moonshining as a cab-driver too :D
QuoteI know! I'd like to write more (I think I've finally figured out why Unix-sama likes Linux-sama when so many other Unix-tans don't!),
Fufu... is this part of the whole "unofficial First Open Sourceress" thing? ^____^
Quotebut...I've been kinda busy lately...not to mention, if I go any farther, I'll be baked into a pie and served for dessert!
I'm assuming that's because you're full of sap and would make a great dessert. I seem destined to be a breakfast item. ^___^'
QuoteI was wondering, however, considering what an innovation "pipes" were in Unix, how could reference be worked into Unix-sama's backstory?
Should she....
-Have a hobby as a flautist?
-Be a really excellent pipe organist?
-Or, should she just have a trust lead pipe which she uses against those who try to mess with her? Considering she's a New Jersey native and all, this could work quite well....
Ummm............ ^^;
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Ano,... eto..... sono.....
There might be a way to work this into her backstory without having to be assaulted by a barrage of tax publications. ^^;
Ever wondered why she always carries around the
Unix Staff with her? ^_________________^;
QuoteEver wondered why she always carries around the Unix Staff with her? ^_________________^;
So that she could have a bunch of people to yell at when she's bored.
My brain is twisted these days... >_>
QuoteSo that she could have a bunch of people to yell at when she's bored.
Errr! wrong!!!!!!!! ^V^
So she could have a bunch of people
to bash on the head when she's bored! ^______________^
Yep, not even close... -v-
Oh C-Chan you, you. ^V^
Quoteshe may be moonshining as a cab-driver too
Ooooooh...snaaaaap!
*sighs*
Ah, Smokey, we knew ye well...:P
QuoteFufu... is this part of the whole "unofficial First Open Sourceress" thing? ^____^
That's just a part of it...but when you think about it, both Unix and Linux have some eerie historic similarities:
Both were born as small, I daresay unambitious projects, built on humble hardware; neither were designed to be revolutionary, yet have had great impact on the computer industry, impact I don't think their creators envisioned. Neither received a lot of funding nor support initially, and were started by small development teams; both relied on community efforts, and flourished under environments where their code was shared freely; and have been hindered by corporate interference and factional infighting. Of course, this last part has been much more prevailent in the case of Unix...this corporate involvement, and subsequent devision of supporters nearly cost it its life, sparked the Unix wars, and harmed its acceptance by consumers. At this point, the PC/microcomputer revolution was happening; but the Unix supporters were so busy warring that they missed out on what could have secured a sure future for themselves. In the case of Linux...hopefully, history won't repeat itself.
So, I suppose, Unix-sama would view Linux-sama as being much like herself; much like herself, if only she had followed her own better judgment more, and corporate masters less. While they don't share a drop of blood, their life experiences make them related in a way...and somehow I think Unix-sama would feel almost obliged to try to keep Linux-sama and her children from suffering the same fate as her family. But, of course, she can only advise them...at the end of the day, it's up to them to decide their own destiny...
And then there's other things, like neither were necessarily born with any powers, but gained them from others (Unix-sama got them from Multics-sama though force, but Linux-sama gained them from the... "GNU people" or whatever...with her own personal merits)
QuoteUmmm............ ^^;
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Ano,... eto..... sono.....
There might be a way to work this into her backstory without having to be assaulted by a barrage of tax publications. ^^;
Ever wondered why she always carries around the Unix Staff with her? ^_________________^;
True, true, but you know I can't pass up any occassion for a Unix-sama-being-a-New-Jerseyite joke...
It's just too freaking funny!*has lead pipe, flute and pipe organ dropped on me*
QuoteErrr! wrong!!!!!!!! ^V^
So she could have a bunch of people to bash on the head when she's bored! ^______________^
Yep, not even close... -v-
Just ask Slackware-chan O__o
QuoteSo, I suppose, Unix-sama would view Linux-sama as being much like herself; much like herself, if only she had followed her own better judgment more, and corporate masters less. While they don't share a drop of blood, their life experiences make them related in a way...and somehow I think Unix-sama would feel almost obliged to try to keep Linux-sama and her children from suffering the same fate as her family. But, of course, she can only advise them...at the end of the day, it's up to them to decide their own destiny...
OMG,... now that's what I call "deep thinking". @v@
So you could almost say that UNIX-sama and Linux-sama....... might as well be soul mates of sorts? ^____^
So different yet so much alike, bridging past and present, and living out eachother's lives while striving for a common future... I reckon Carl Jung would have a field day with this.... -v-
QuoteAnd then there's other things, like neither were necessarily born with any powers, but gained them from others (Unix-sama got them from Multics-sama though force, but Linux-sama gained them from the... "GNU people" or whatever...with her own personal merits)
Both command respect, but very different degrees of it. UNIX-sama you respect because you FEAR her and what she can do to you. Linux-sama you respect because she INSPIRES you to be more than what you feel you're fated to be.
Technically-speaking, Linux-sama's respect should be more prone to abuse -- in practice, though, the drive is so deep it often reaches theocratic proportions (aka, religious zeal), which as history shows can be underestimated at one's own peril.
QuoteTrue, true, but you know I can't pass up any occassion for a Unix-sama-being-a-New-Jerseyite joke...
It's just too freaking funny!
*has lead pipe, flute and pipe organ dropped on me*
At this rate, it won't be long before she suspends you over a vatch of noxious chemicals (Jersey-style). :P
New Jersey sounds like my kinda' place :D
QuoteOMG,... now that's what I call "deep thinking". @v@
*hippie impersonation*
Yeah, man...even I blew my own mind with that observation...
Nah, I just think too much :P
QuoteSo you could almost say that UNIX-sama and Linux-sama....... might as well be soul mates of sorts? ^____^
You said it, not me...but I guess you could look at it that way. ^////^
But I imagine this kind of connection between the two has got to get on some of the Unixes' nerves...either by making them really jealous that this "stranger" is getting more attention from Unix-sama than some of her children, as would be the case with SCO-chan; or peeved that someone as benevolent...and even innocent...as Linux-sama would be so kindred with Unix-sama, who has a much darker past, as I think Plan 9-san would view it...
Then there'd be the occasional Linux-tan who's envious, like Slackware-chan. She is the most Unix-ish-y after all, and all she gets is the way of attention is the occasional whack upside the head. ;)
QuoteSo different yet so much alike, bridging past and present, and living out eachother's lives while striving for a common future... I reckon Carl Jung would have a field day with this.... -v-
...I'm the one having a field day here! A field day out at a maple farm collecting sap, that is!
QuoteBoth command respect, but very different degrees of it. UNIX-sama you respect because you FEAR her and what she can do to you. Linux-sama you respect because she INSPIRES you to be more than what you feel you're fated to be.
Technically-speaking, Linux-sama's respect should be more prone to abuse -- in practice, though, the drive is so deep it often reaches theocratic proportions (aka, religious zeal), which as history shows can be underestimated at one's own peril.
Exactly.
QuoteAt this rate, it won't be long before she suspends you over a vatch of noxious chemicals (Jersey-style). :P
Woohoo! We finally got C-Chan to make a Unix/New Jersey joke!
QuoteNew Jersey sounds like my kinda' place
Ah, makes me think of my time in Northern New Jersey...
I once visited some friends there for a few days...we only got to visit New York City once, but the rest of the time was spent touring the countryside, taking in the local culture. Contrary to popular belief, the state isn't one whole toxic waste site...Where we were, there are lot of suburbs, as well as acres and acres of plant nurseries ^_^
Well, i was told never to believe everything i hear, but i actually meant the new york/new jersey attitude... :D
An OS-tan with a bronx attitude?! o.o
Hihi, yeah... :D
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/ShinzuiUindo/XP-tan/stand00copy2.png) (http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/ShinzuiUindo/XP-tan/face-.gif) *eyes burning* It hurts!
Here is a black-haired version, (but I prefer brown) and you can clearly see that it's not about the color. Take a closer look at the head. OMG that's totally not XP-tan! *sigh* Oh well. This is my first non-SND styled sprite edit after all.
btw the posture (if that's the english word for it) is from here:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/ShinzuiUindo/XP-tan/mplayerc2006-03-2714-19-10-50.png)
Yeah, you're right, brown does look better...
And, Posture/Pose/Stance, who cares... :D
Hm. If you find an Asakura sprite, that might be a good try to edit...
I've downloaded Asakura for mugen, but to extract a sprite from it I must figure out how to open a .GCA file.
meh
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Fufufu... Guess the conversation about the XP-tan fighting game sprite oozed out of its home thread. ^v^;
But no matter cause it's very neat, and besides that comprises "game theory". ^___^;
QuoteYou said it, not me...but I guess you could look at it that way. ^////^
Awww, how sweet. ^///^
Reminds me of the cosplay idea I had for Fried Chicken Linux-tan and Abraxis-tan:
http://www.lelola.net/misc/reviews/utena.jpg
QuoteBut I imagine this kind of connection between the two has got to get on some of the Unixes' nerves...either by making them really jealous that this "stranger" is getting more attention from Unix-sama than some of her children, as would be the case with SCO-chan; or peeved that someone as benevolent...and even innocent...as Linux-sama would be so kindred with Unix-sama, who has a much darker past, as I think Plan 9-san would view it...
Oh it's far worse,...
Most of the time it's BOTH issues that plague many an arrogant UNIX descendant. However, there's also a bit of paranoia mixed in too. Some believe that Linux-sama's charm and the rise of the Linux-tans is one coordinated "Red Scare"-style conspiracy to destroy the remainder of the Family. Others believe UNIX-sama has grown old and senile, and in desperate need of being dethrowned (by force if necessary). ^^'
Sadly, in the world of *Nix, politics is more complicated than a Honeywell Kitchen Computer, and is rife with intrigue, plots, unholy alliances, and infighting up the wazoo.... ^^;
QuoteThen there'd be the occasional Linux-tan who's envious, like Slackware-chan. She is the most Unix-ish-y after all, and all she gets is the way of attention is the occasional whack upside the head.
Case in point, the Linux-tans have evolved their own left-leaning versions of intrigue, plots, unholy alliances, and infighting. The Novell, Linspire and Xandros sell-out is just the tip of the iceberg. ^^;
Quote...I'm the one having a field day here! A field day out at a maple farm collecting sap, that is!
Please treat me to some pancakes some time. ^.^
QuoteWoohoo! We finally got C-Chan to make a Unix/New Jersey joke!
Oh come on, that BARELY qualifies as a cliche. -v-;
QuoteAh, makes me think of my time in Northern New Jersey...
I once visited some friends there for a few days...we only got to visit New York City once, but the rest of the time was spent touring the countryside, taking in the local culture. Contrary to popular belief, the state isn't one whole toxic waste site...Where we were, there are lot of suburbs, as well as acres and acres of plant nurseries
I've done the same, so I can vouch that New Jersey really is 90% woodland, greenspace, and pre-Sprawl era suburbs. Even comparing the transit system of the NYC metropolitan area with that of the Port Authority and Hudson County transit light rail, the former is in a putrid state of decay, while the latter is a vision of relative cleanliness and efficency (emphasis on 'relative').
However, NJ does have a problem with its water system due to the legacy of its chemical and watefront manufacturing industry. In fairness, NYC has a similar problem (drinking water straight from the adjacent rivers is insanity), but has managed to mask that by importing water from the Catskill mountain area in northern New York.
This is why it's been able to get away with claiming some of the "healthiest tap water" in the country, although like many other things that's been slowly changing for the worst in recent years (admittedly, due more to the aging infrastructure). :(
What'd ya expect?
NY is a huuuge metropolitan area wich has a insane building density...
Try digging a hole in a random place in downtown NY, you'll find the ground to be filled up with, well....basically anything but dirt... :D
Quote*eyes burning* It hurts!
Here is a black-haired version, (but I prefer brown) and you can clearly see that it's not about the color. Take a closer look at the head. OMG that's totally not XP-tan! *sigh* Oh well. This is my first non-SND styled sprite edit after all.
btw the posture (if that's the english word for it) is from here:
Nice job! Looks like XP-san is about to kick some arse.
QuoteAwww, how sweet. ^///^
*thinks sweet thoughts*
^/////////^
*has several books and one spear thrown at me*
QuoteReminds me of the cosplay idea I had for Fried Chicken Linux-tan and Abraxis-tan:
http://www.lelola.net/misc/reviews/utena.jpg
I can't see that picture, darn :(
QuoteOh it's far worse,...
Most of the time it's BOTH issues that plague many an arrogant UNIX descendant. However, there's also a bit of paranoia mixed in too. Some believe that Linux-sama's charm and the rise of the Linux-tans is one coordinated "Red Scare"-style conspiracy to destroy the remainder of the Family. Others believe UNIX-sama has grown old and senile, and in desperate need of being dethrowned (by force if necessary). ^^'
Sadly, in the world of *Nix, politics is more complicated than a Honeywell Kitchen Computer, and is rife with intrigue, plots, unholy alliances, and infighting up the wazoo.... ^^;
Yeah, that sounds like something the more old school Unixes would think...
And then there's the occasional Unix-tan who thinks that they can get into greater favor with Unix-sama by being more like Linux-sama...which I believe would be Solaris-san's attitude (of course, under the guise of having had a great epiphany).
QuoteCase in point, the Linux-tans have evolved their own left-leaning versions of intrigue, plots, unholy alliances, and infighting. The Novell, Linspire and Xandros sell-out is just the tip of the iceberg. ^^;
I know! I bet there's all sorts of infighting between the libre types, the gratis types, the M$-huggers, etc, etc. :P
QuotePlease treat me to some pancakes some time. ^.^
Now now, Maple can be used on all sorts of foods...maple cookies, maple milk, maple-glazed salmon, maple oatmeal...
Mmmm...maple....
QuoteOh come on, that BARELY qualifies as a cliche. -v-;
Give me time, I'll become one. Lawl.
QuoteI've done the same, so I can vouch that New Jersey really is 90% woodland, greenspace, and pre-Sprawl era suburbs. Even comparing the transit system of the NYC metropolitan area with that of the Port Authority and Hudson County transit light rail, the former is in a putrid state of decay, while the latter is a vision of relative cleanliness and efficency (emphasis on 'relative').
However, NJ does have a problem with its water system due to the legacy of its chemical and watefront manufacturing industry. In fairness, NYC has a similar problem (drinking water straight from the adjacent rivers is insanity), but has managed to mask that by importing water from the Catskill mountain area in northern New York.
This is why it's been able to get away with claiming some of the "healthiest tap water" in the country, although like many other things that's been slowly changing for the worst in recent years (admittedly, due more to the aging infrastructure).
Hey, another person who doesn't buy into those bad NJ stereotypes :P
Quote from: "Bella"Hey, another person who doesn't buy into those bad NJ stereotypes :P
Hah! That's the word i was looking for! Stereotypes! :D
QuoteWhat'd ya expect?
NY is a huuuge metropolitan area wich has a insane building density...
Try digging a hole in a random place in downtown NY, you'll find the ground to be filled up with, well....basically anything but dirt...
Fufufu... well I've been to Toronto, Chicago and the like and they're several orders of magnitude cleaner. o_o
Granted they're smaller and newer cities and likely not tied down with the same level of beaurocracy, but I've always reckoned that the state of any city (or any town, village or hamlet) is a direct reflection of the mindset of its people. Mexico City, for instance, feels like a city that people gave up on decades ago. :(
Quote*thinks sweet thoughts*
^/////////^
*has several books and one spear thrown at me*
Oh now, the last thing you need is to turn into Linux-sama's personal punching bag. Is it your lot in life to get hounded by every living, breathing OS-tan? ^v^'
*imagines Amiga-sama throwing Amy at Bella* ^^;
QuoteAnd then there's the occasional Unix-tan who thinks that they can get into greater favor with Unix-sama by being more like Linux-sama...which I believe would be Solaris-san's attitude (of course, under the guise of having had a great epiphany).
Riiiiiiiiiiiight,... an epiphany.... ^///^
*chort chortle snicker snicker*
I feel bad for Solaris-sama.... I mean, she tries and all, and used to be cutting edge stuff.... But now she can't shake off the impression of being a wannabe. ^____^'
And now she gets no respect,... I mean, come on! She has miniature versions of herself using her morning coffee as their personal jakoozees! ^v^;
QuoteI know! I bet there's all sorts of infighting between the libre types, the gratis types, the M$-huggers, etc, etc. :P
You'd be surprised how much trouble that "Free as in Beer" among the more,... literal-minded Linux-tans. ^v^;
QuoteNow now, Maple can be used on all sorts of foods...maple cookies, maple milk, maple-glazed salmon, maple oatmeal...
Mmmm...maple....
Well,... as long as we're not including maple-glazed prok, I'm on. ^___^
*opens maw to await insertion of some random tasty food item* ^0^
QuoteFufufu... well I've been to Toronto, Chicago and the like and they're several orders of magnitude cleaner.
Granted they're smaller and newer cities and likely not tied down with the same level of beaurocracy, but I've always reckoned that the state of any city (or any town, village or hamlet) is a direct reflection of the mindset of its people. Mexico City, for instance, feels like a city that people gave up on decades ago.
Humph...
*looks around own town*
By that reckoning, I do believe the mindset the people around here is...very rural. Lawl XD
QuoteOh now, the last thing you need is to turn into Linux-sama's personal punching bag. Is it your lot in life to get hounded by every living, breathing OS-tan? ^v^'
*imagines Amiga-sama throwing Amy at Bella* ^^;
Oh now, there are certain OS-tans who don't attempt to kill me on a daily basis. The XP sisters, Ubuntu-san, and the Macs have always been nice to me ;)
QuoteRiiiiiiiiiiiight,... an epiphany.... ^///^
I imagine she had (or I should say, she thinks she had) a very Ebenezer Scrooge-ish visitation by three ghosts in the night or whatever the hell XD
Quote*chort chortle snicker snicker*
I feel bad for Solaris-sama.... I mean, she tries and all, and used to be cutting edge stuff.... But now she can't shake off the impression of being a wannabe. ^____^'
And now she gets no respect,... I mean, come on! She has miniature versions of herself using her morning coffee as their personal jakoozees! ^v^;
Well, her motivations may be questionable, but at least she is trying to avoid the bad fate that has befallen some closed-source types...
QuoteYou'd be surprised how much trouble that "Free as in Beer" among the more,... literal-minded Linux-tans. ^v^;
*imagines drunken Linux-tans*
O__________O
QuoteWell,... as long as we're not including maple-glazed prok, I'm on. ^___^
*opens maw to await insertion of some random tasty food item* ^0^
Well, this is NH we're talking about...course we have maple-glazed pork!
Let us not forget what the wise Uncyclopedia says about my home state:
QuoteOfficial Cuisine: Pancakes, Maple Syrup, Butter
QuoteOh now, there are certain OS-tans who don't attempt to kill me on a daily basis. The XP sisters, Ubuntu-san, and the Macs have always been nice to me
*watches Homeko scratching up Bella-san's car, then probably runs for it when she realize she's been spotted*
*watches Ubuntu-san drinking juice straight off the carton from Bella's fridge, then promptly puts it back*
*watches the Mac kitties empty litter boxes into Bella's backyard*
Well,.........
At least they don't try to kill her. ^________________^;
QuoteWell, her motivations may be questionable, but at least she is trying to avoid the bad fate that has befallen some closed-source types...
Speaking of wannabes, it seems a certain Ubuntu descendant has gone the full "nine yards" as far as appearing very Mac-like....
http://www.slashgear.com/everex-myminipc-with-gos-space-29-and-myspace-apps-they-have-truly-taken-the-budget-pc-to-a-whole-new-level-0711064.php
QuoteWell, this is NH we're talking about...course we have maple-glazed pork!
Awww man,... so if people say I'm "sweet" in NH, that mean I have to watch my back...? T___T;
QuoteLet us not forget what the wise Uncyclopedia says about my home state:
*inserts LOLz into LOL Box* ^^
QuoteLet us not forget what the wise Uncyclopedia says about my home state:
Oh don't make me compare it to what it says about MY state.
"The Naughty Parts", "The Boring Parts", and Norrland... >_<
*reads what uncyclopedia has to say about Holland (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Holland)*
*facepalms*
LOL
Quote*imagines drunken Linux-tans*
O__________O
This reminds me... Have you ever heard of Beernix? (at least, I think that's what it was called...)
Quote*watches Homeko scratching up Bella-san's car, then probably runs for it when she realize she's been spotted*
*watches Ubuntu-san drinking juice straight off the carton from Bella's fridge, then promptly puts it back*
*watches the Mac kitties empty litter boxes into Bella's backyard*
Well,.........
At least they don't try to kill her. ^________________^;
Oh yeah, and I should also mention VMS-sama is nice to me, so long as I let her win when playing games O____O
QuoteSpeaking of wannabes, it seems a certain Ubuntu descendant has gone the full "nine yards" as far as appearing very Mac-like....
http://www.slashgear.com/everex-myminipc-with-gos-space-29-and-myspace-apps-they-have-truly-taken-the-budget-pc-to-a-whole-new-level-0711064.php
*drools*
*continues to drool*
Wow...now that's what I call a doppleganger! Is that just the new version of gOS, or an exclusive to that machine?
QuoteAwww man,... so if people say I'm "sweet" in NH, that mean I have to watch my back...? T___T;
Yup. Well pretty much eat anything with maple syrup on it. Lawl.
QuoteOh don't make me compare it to what it says about MY state.
"The Naughty Parts", "The Boring Parts", and Norrland... >_<
Quote*reads what uncyclopedia has to say about Holland*
*facepalms*
LOL
Uncyclopedia would be a horrific hate site if they didn't brutalize everything so evenly :P
QuoteO__________O
This reminds me... Have you ever heard of Beernix? (at least, I think that's what it was called...)
No, I can't say I've ever heard of Beernix...but then again, you have a talent for finding off-the-beaten-path distros to make -tans out of....:)
Beernix?! I had enough trouble finding things about FCL...
Took me a while to learn that it stood for Fried Chicken Linux... :D
I don't think BEERnix has any official release, yet. I don't even know much about its current progress. All I know is that the creator claims to be creating entirely while under the effects of alcohol and that this is its website (http://beernix.berlios.de/).
*shrug*
For all I know, it could be a joke like Jesux or one of those other joke distros.
WTF, LOL! Jesux?!
Jesux and Yellow Hat Linux are two of the joke distros. I also suspect that Barbie Linux is just a joke distro as well :(
HAHAHAHA! Beernix! Hoax or not, I'd like to see that personified!
One thing is for certain: BEERnix-tan is always under the influence of alcohol. ^^
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Speaking of the joke distros, though...
How do you think the other OS-tans view them (if they've even heard of them)? Are they myths? Urban legends? Knock-knock jokes? Imaginary friends?
Homer Simpson would be a great personification for Beernix, if he was an anime character and not already occupied with the Simpsons...
And i would thiink that the joke-distro's are most likely Urban legends...
I dunno what a joke distro would be...since they don't exist, I suppose a myth or something...?
And come to think of it, I have never seen a site of anything for Barbie Linux...
But a Beernix-tan would be hilarious, regardless of it's existance :D
^There was a news article on Slashdot about Barbie Linux back in 2006. There were a few other articles on the web too but I couldn't find any screenshots.
*LOLZ*
Come to think about it, there are SO MUCH Linux-distro's and sub-distro's and forks and spoons that it's obvious we'd all lose track... :D
To change the subject a bit, I had recently watched an anime called Mushi-Uta. In it, there's a character who is able to transport herself (and others) into a photograph that she had taken.
I was wondering if such a power should be given to IrfanView-tan?
Maybe more appropriate for an iPhoto or Digikam-tan. :)
I'll be right back... I thought I saw Minis in a neighboring thread! ^.^
*preempts massive swoonage*
That's a nice power, but i think it'd be more appropriate for MSN-tan or other chat-apps with webcam support...
Is good. I was just tossing around the idea. ^^ Besides, if the power were to apply to IrfanView-tan, it couldn't be limited to pictures she makes, herself...since she can't create original images.
I think, though, being able to pull up graphics files for reference or as a shield would be good enough...in addition to her Xacto knife. That's enough for her.
I see how she could use the ability to pull out graphic files as a great defensive tactic! Pull out a picture of something much too cute to attack or pull out something repulsive to scare an attacker away! :D
"you wouldn't attack me while holding your wedding pictures, would you?"
*laughs evily*
LOL :D
Interestingly enough, the picture I did of IrfanView-tan includes some wedding photos. Though, neither of them have any recognizable people...
Oh, LOL...
What a coincidence...
Heh, behold my awesome forseeing skillz... :D
QuoteTo change the subject a bit, I had recently watched an anime called Mushi-Uta. In it, there's a character who is able to transport herself (and others) into a photograph that she had taken.
I was wondering if such a power should be given to IrfanView-tan?
That's an interesting idea! But, I have to say...
QuoteIs good. I was just tossing around the idea. ^^ Besides, if the power were to apply to IrfanView-tan, it couldn't be limited to pictures she makes, herself...since she can't create original images.
I think, though, being able to pull up graphics files for reference or as a shield would be good enough...in addition to her Xacto knife. That's enough for her.
...I like this idea a bit more for her. Like you said, she cannot actually produce pictures, but can manipulate them ;)
So I found an interesting thing in Wikipedia; having to do with Symbian OS and an OS called EPOC. Both are used in mobile devices.
Wikipedia wrote:QuoteSymbian OS, with its roots in Psion Software's EPOC, is structured like many desktop operating systems with pre-emptive multitasking and memory protection. EPOC was inspired by a VMS-like approach to multitasking with server-based asynchronous serialised access based on events.
Methinks a SymbianOS-tan and EPOC-tan may be more members of the VMS-like family! I just wonder what their designs would be like...I used to think of mobile OS-tans as being fairy-like, but now I'm not sure of that.
What I know about them:
-EPOC was a mobile OS first made in the late 80s, but it still is in use today in data collection scanners!
-EPOC has features inspired by VMS.
-Symbian is based off of EPOC, so Symbian-tan would either be a daughter or sister of EPOC-tan.
-Symbian is the leading mobile OS, but has competition in Windows Mobile and Linux.
Speaking of which, C-Chan, I was wondering if you had any ideas about eCOS-tan's appearance; I've been thinking of drawing her. I know a bit about eCOS-tan's attitude and all, but I don't recall having ever heard about her looks.
Fufu... in lieu of a raincheck, I'll give you one of my patented "Replies-on-the-Flies"! ^.^
*laughs at own bad pun*
As far as how eCOS-chan should look, I'd recommend a fusion of these two rather famous characters:
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171/mia-1414/Tifa_Kingdom-Hearts.jpg)
(http://www.toytokyo.com/productImages/6851_1.jpg)
Not that I expect her to be scantily-clad, but she is an embedded system and so needs to,... shall we say,... travel light. :)
Her predominant colors are black and red, although she does wear long partially-armored boots that HAVE to be red due to a very important system reference. Gloved hands [or armlets] and brass knuckles are also preferrable, although she really does use her legs to attack 95% of the time. She very likely keeps her hair in a long braided ponytail too, and in terms of youthful disposition is pretty much en par with eComstation-tan -- although eCOS-chan prefers to focus on speed and POWER, whereas eCS-chan opts for agility and cunning.
She's self-confident and fearless (you have to be if you want to accompany VMS-sama everywhere), but is short-fused and loses it quickly (especially when she sees a certain person... fufu...) ^.^
QuoteNot that I expect her to be scantily-clad, but she is an embedded system and so needs to,... shall we say,... travel light.
*wormhole appears in thread*
OH YOU, C-CHAN, YOUUUU!
*wormhole dissipates*
QuoteFufu... in lieu of a raincheck, I'll give you one of my patented "Replies-on-the-Flies"! ^.^
*laughs at own bad pun*
As far as how eCOS-chan should look, I'd recommend a fusion of these two rather famous characters:
For famous characters, I'll admit I don't recognize them ^////^
QuoteNot that I expect her to be scantily-clad, but she is an embedded system and so needs to,... shall we say,... travel light.
I see your point; I've always envisioned embedded and mobile OS-tans as dressing rather modernly...
QuoteHer predominant colors are black and red, although she does wear long partially-armored boots that HAVE to be red due to a very important system reference.
...RedBoot, of course! What kinda idiot do ya think you're dealing with :P
QuoteGloved hands [or armlets] and brass knuckles are also preferrable, although she really does use her legs to attack 95% of the time. She very likely keeps her hair in a long braided ponytail too, and in terms of youthful disposition is pretty much en par with eComstation-tan -- although eCOS-chan prefers to focus on speed and POWER, whereas eCS-chan opts for agility and cunning.
Ooooh, I hope I can draw a eCOS-tan now. I always thought she be somewhat like eCS-tan; at first it was only the name they had in common, but now I see they share a few traits.
QuoteShe's self-confident and fearless (you have to be if you want to accompany VMS-sama everywhere), but is short-fused and loses it quickly (especially when she sees a certain person... fufu...) ^.^
...that would be RedHat Linux-tan, no?
Those two suggested characters are Tifa from "Final Fantasy" and Amazon Cammy (although I do not know what series she is from)
And of course eCOS-tan hates RedHat-tan with a burning passion. I know there was a business-related reason as for why. If I recally correctly, Red Hat bought out the company that made eCOS and later discontinued it, completely screwing eCOS over!
In terms of OS-tans, makes me wonder if Red Hat-tan did something really cruel to eCOS-tan in the name of business! 0__0
.... kinda like RH-tan giving eCOS-tan a nice home and then plough through it with a whopping big bulldozer, perhaps?... all in the name of business, offcourse...Business is tough... :D
^Yeah! That's an excellent suggestion! I think that RedHat-tan would have been very nice to her at first, treating eCOS-tan as an adoptive daughter until she had to do something outrageous in the name of business! Although friendly for the most part, she has not been very generous since taking a career in business.
It's almost the complete opposite of what I had in mind for the relation between AOL-tan and Netscape-tan! :D : in 1998 when Netscape and AOL were both very powerful, AOL bought out Netscape so I thought that AOL-tan would have treated her like a prisoner of war until Netscape-tan's decline (pretty much hit rock bottom in 2003 while her arch rival IE-tan was more powerful than Netscape-tan ever was and she was mighty powerful in the mid-90's!) and since the early 2000's, AOL was going into a serious decline and suddenly feels regret for all the power-hungry schemes and attempted dictatorship she has done in the 1990's including contributing to Netscape-tan's near demise and the two then felt empathy for each other and became friends although under such sad cirumstances that could have been prevented.
QuoteThose two suggested characters are Tifa from "Final Fantasy" and Amazon Cammy (although I do not know what series she is from)
Oh, thank you :)
QuoteAnd of course eCOS-tan hates RedHat-tan with a burning passion. I know there was a business-related reason as for why. If I recally correctly, Red Hat bought out the company that made eCOS and later discontinued it, completely screwing eCOS over!
In terms of OS-tans, makes me wonder if Red Hat-tan did something really cruel to eCOS-tan in the name of business! 0__0
Quote.... kinda like RH-tan giving eCOS-tan a nice home and then plough through it with a whopping big bulldozer, perhaps?... all in the name of business, offcourse...Business is tough...
Quote^Yeah! That's an excellent suggestion! I think that RedHat-tan would have been very nice to her at first, treating eCOS-tan as an adoptive daughter until she had to do
something outrageous in the name of business! Although friendly for the most part, she has not been very generous since taking a career in business.
I somehow thought eCOS-tan would be the victim of attempt on her life by RHL-tan (Oh man, I must be really macabre @__@). But while most would have given up after such an incident, she used it as a source of personal strength; eCOS-tan managed to break away from her oppressive company and take her destiny into her own hands.
Course, I've never imagined RHL-tan to be that cutthroat a person; but who knows what one will be motivated to do for their corporate masters -__-
(In 2002 when Red Hat bought out Cygnus Solutions (eCOS's parent company) they discontinued eCOS and laid off all its staff; but those workers went on to found their own company, eCosCentric. In 2005 they managed to get Red Hat to transfer all of the eCos copyrights to the Free Software Foundation.)
QuoteIt's almost the complete opposite of what I had in mind for the relation between AOL-tan and Netscape-tan! : in 1998 when Netscape and AOL were both very powerful, AOL bought out Netscape so I thought that AOL-tan would have treated her like a prisoner of war until Netscape-tan's decline (pretty much hit rock bottom in 2003 while her arch rival IE-tan was more powerful than Netscape-tan ever was and she was mighty powerful in the mid-90's!) and since the early 2000's, AOL was going into a serious decline and suddenly feels regret for all the power-hungry schemes and attempted dictatorship she has done in the 1990's including contributing to Netscape-tan's near demise and the two then felt empathy for each other and became friends although under such sad cirumstances that could have been prevented.
A few weeks back I saw an excellent series on the Discovery Channel called The True Story of the Internet; the first episode was devoted entirly to the Browser Wars. I never realized how fierce the rivialry between browsers were, nor what hardships Netscape faced! But I guess we can be happy that Netscape-tan's work continues thought Firefox-ko; she is, after all, the biggest threat to IE-tan. But I guess it is good to hear that AOL-tan and Netscape-tan have become friends.
And isn't Firefox derived from Netscape code or something? Would that make Netscape-tan and Firefox-ko sisters, mother and daughter, or would Firefox just be a great admirer?
Wait............There was a browser war going on?!
Ghostzilla-tan is interested.
Ghostzilla is a nice program (now that i've read up on it :D) but if HTML browsing is disabled on a domain, or if the site you're looking for is blocked, she would be powerless against the admin's restrictions...
I guess she would be good friends with other mischievous programs like HTTP-tunnel and such...
QuoteFor famous characters, I'll admit I don't recognize them ^////^
Fufu... after all those cable TV show references, now the tables have turned. ^____^
Quote...RedBoot, of course! What kinda idiot do ya think you're dealing with :P
Sou sou,... I am talking to Bella-sama after all. ^.^
QuoteOoooh, I hope I can draw a eCOS-tan now. I always thought she be somewhat like eCS-tan; at first it was only the name they had in common, but now I see they share a few traits.
Fufufu... I'd love to see you draw an eCOS-chan. ^^
Kinda worried that I keep dumping all my OS-tans on you, but as long as you don't mind I think you're doing a fabulous job with them! ^___^
QuoteThose two suggested characters are Tifa from "Final Fantasy" and Amazon Cammy (although I do not know what series she is from)
Street Fighter... I remember when she first appeared in Super Street Fighter II. ^.^
Course, Amazon's a misnomer,... she's actually shorter than short can get. ^^;
QuoteAnd of course eCOS-tan hates RedHat-tan with a burning passion. I know there was a business-related reason as for why. If I recally correctly, Red Hat bought out the company that made eCOS and later discontinued it, completely screwing eCOS over!
In terms of OS-tans, makes me wonder if Red Hat-tan did something really cruel to eCOS-tan in the name of business! 0__0
Correct. ^____^
I'm not sure if RedHat-tan did so personally (maybe under orders), but eCOS-chan did not take it very well and has had a vendetta ever since.
Quote.... kinda like RH-tan giving eCOS-tan a nice home and then plough through it with a whopping big bulldozer, perhaps?... all in the name of business, offcourse...Business is tough...
Quote^Yeah! That's an excellent suggestion! I think that RedHat-tan would have been very nice to her at first, treating eCOS-tan as an adoptive daughter until she had to do something outrageous in the name of business! Although friendly for the most part, she has not been very generous since taking a career in business.
QuoteI somehow thought eCOS-tan would be the victim of attempt on her life by RHL-tan (Oh man, I must be really macabre @__@). But while most would have given up after such an incident, she used it as a source of personal strength; eCOS-tan managed to break away from her oppressive company and take her destiny into her own hands.
Course, I've never imagined RHL-tan to be that cutthroat a person; but who knows what one will be motivated to do for their corporate masters -__-
Fufufu,... yes, that's macabre. ^___^'
Granted, we came out with more heart-jerking stuff for earlier eras, but don't think RHL-tan would be capable of doing something horrible to a young girl.
The house bulldozing idea actually works, if only because a person doesn't have to be harmed physically to carry a grudge.
More than likely, RHL-chan did try to befriend eCOS-chan and got along very well with her. But being a bit corporate-minded at the time (=inconsiderate), she likely destroyed eCOS-chan's house [where she was born] and fired all her old caretakers [the only family she ever had] without consulting her.
Being a bit on the passionate side, eCOS-chan probably did not care for "legitimate business reasons", and immediately left.
Her grudge, though, likely did not arise from this as much as the hardship she and her friends had to go through to piece their life back together. Although this gained her nerves of steel and incredible strength, it was also quite traumatic as well.
Here's kind of a crazy idea I had for a comic and I was wondering if this would work but here it is:
A 'Cinderella'-like story about Mac System 1-tan's early life from 1983 until her release to the public on Jan 24 1984. As you may know, the Lisa was a lot more capable than the Macintosh and superior in most ways except for price and speed. The original Mac cost 1/4 as much and was much faster but lacked virtual memory, multitasking and protected memory which the Lisa had.
Also, the workers for the Macintosh development team were paid less than half as much as those on the Lisa team and the Macintosh almost got killed off but survived by being hidden away but was then given a second chance, most likely after seeing how poorly the Lisa sold.
(info from here: Apple Tidbits: Browse Facts Macintosh (http://www.appletidbits.com/browse.php?category=Macintosh&source=)
In the story, it would feature Mac System 1-tan, Apple ][-tan and Lisa-tan with System 1-tan pretty much having the role of Cinderella and she realizes her life was spared mostly just to be the servant to her two older sisters until one fateful day.
Lisa-tan is most obviously spoiled but Apple ][-tan was still nice and supportive to System 1-tan too, right? (this is important to know- I need to know how they would have interacted with her)
Well,... barring the fact that you already have about a dozen active comics, I think it's a very sweet idea. ^^
FYI, Apple ][-tan would've always been nice and supportive. Her problem, though, was that she was too busy to be around much. Being the sole vanguard for the company for almost a decade, she was overworked and underpaid, striving hard to build a better future for her younger sisters, but never really able to clock in more than a weekend visit to see them. (Here retirement in the 90's, therefore, was much sought after.)
Lisa-chan probably capitalized on her absence (as well as her own position) to torment her younger sister. Little did she realize, though, that immersing System 1.0-chan in a life of servitude actually dug her own grave, since 1.0-chan became far removed from the posh lifestyle to better understand (as ][-chan did) what the "common folk" REALLY wanted in a computer. ^^
QuoteFufu... after all those cable TV show references, now the tables have turned. ^____^
Now now, I've never made any cable TV references...they've always been network TV references :P
QuoteFufufu... I'd love to see you draw an eCOS-chan. ^^
Kinda worried that I keep dumping all my OS-tans on you, but as long as you don't mind I think you're doing a fabulous job with them! ^___^
Of course not! Have you seen the track record of OS-tans you've dumped on me? VMS-sama, Unix-sama, Multics-sama...all designs I'd have never come up with.
QuoteFufufu,... yes, that's macabre. ^___^'
Granted, we came out with more heart-jerking stuff for earlier eras, but don't think RHL-tan would be capable of doing something horrible to a young girl.
Oh noes, this must be my Russian side. Lawl.
QuoteHere's kind of a crazy idea I had for a comic and I was wondering if this would work but here it is:
A 'Cinderella'-like story about Mac System 1-tan's early life from 1983 until her release to the public on Jan 24 1984. As you may know, the Lisa was a lot more capable than the Macintosh and superior in most ways except for price and speed. The original Mac cost 1/4 as much and was much faster but lacked virtual memory, multitasking and protected memory which the Lisa had.
Also, the workers for the Macintosh development team were paid less than half as much as those on the Lisa team and the Macintosh almost got killed off but survived by being hidden away but was then given a second chance, most likely after seeing how poorly the Lisa sold.
(info from here: Apple Tidbits: Browse Facts Macintosh
In the story, it would feature Mac System 1-tan, Apple ][-tan and Lisa-tan with System 1-tan pretty much having the role of Cinderella and she realizes her life was spared mostly just to be the servant to her two older sisters until one fateful day.
Lisa-tan is most obviously spoiled but Apple ][-tan was still nice and supportive to System 1-tan too, right? (this is important to know- I need to know how they would have interacted with her)
Sounds like a good idea!
QuoteLisa-chan probably capitalized on her absence (as well as her own position) to torment her younger sister. Little did she realize, though, that immersing System 1.0-chan in a life of servitude actually dug her own grave, since 1.0-chan became far removed from the posh lifestyle to better understand (as ][-chan did) what the "common folk" REALLY wanted in a computer. ^^
Sounds about right, too...
THIS IMPORTANT MESSAGE IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE NeoN CORPORATION AND THE CRACK KING.
Sorry to interrupt your jolly conversation, but I'd like some help with brainstorming here.
In the light of the recent maint downtime, Smokey-kun notified me of the fact that our maint page lacks a maintenance-tan. While seemingly trivial, I think fluff is vital to success (at least for us!) on the 'net. Thus! Any ideas, everyone?
I'm thinking hammers, ladders, and a miner's hat, btw.
*walks through the hall, looks to the left, sees Nej talking in this thread (glass walls/doors), hears conversation, walks in*
Ah, yes...
Thank you Nejin for taking my comment to the proper thread. ;010
And while you were down, i was fitting existing -tan pics (2k getting patched again, ME crashed etc.) but concluded that they could send the wrong message...
So food for a new -tan here, but i was thinking more in the direction of a medical check-up/(periodic-) vaccination, allowing for existing -tans to be placeholders like there are a number of -tans in the banners... Plus it would make the maintenance look more human...-ish... :D
Amd my judgement/ideas have been seriously infected by a series i've been watching... -oooh 2k-sama being MRI-d viewed from the operators perspective'd be cool... ;010
But thats my idea, tainted by our friend Gregory...
2 ideas up, let's hear yours... :D
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Acually the MRI idea is something i could draw...
Interesting... Since i like tech-stuff... I'll start work on it...
Quote from: "C-Chan"Well,... barring the fact that you already have about a dozen active comics, I think it's a very sweet idea. ^^
FYI, Apple ][-tan would've always been nice and supportive. Her problem, though, was that she was too busy to be around much. Being the sole vanguard for the company for almost a decade, she was overworked and underpaid, striving hard to build a better future for her younger sisters, but never really able to clock in more than a weekend visit to see them. (Here retirement in the 90's, therefore, was much sought after.)
It's great that Apple ][-tan has always been kind to her, giving System 1-tan a reason to live... there. But it's sad that while working hard to build a better future for her younger sisters, she was not there to help her younger sister that needed her help right now-- err... then!
Quote
Lisa-chan probably capitalized on her absence (as well as her own position) to torment her younger sister. Little did she realize, though, that immersing System 1.0-chan in a life of servitude actually dug her own grave, since 1.0-chan became far removed from the posh lifestyle to better understand (as ][-chan did) what the "common folk" REALLY wanted in a computer. ^^
How mean of Lisa-tan! That spoiled rotten... girl! (I still like Lisa-tan though) But at least what came around, went around! Lisa-tan did so little with her self the people saw her as useless, favoring the hard-working System 1-tan! And although the work has hard and mostly thankless, it most likely did make System 1-tan a better person, not be spoiled and do learn what the common folk really wanted in a computer! Fortuneatly, she did later manage to live a fairly posh and glamorous lifestyle but with understanding of what the people want and without the being spoiled!
Although she did cheer up considerably after being given a second chance and proving herself to the world, she still had some degree of paranoia as well as feelings of uncertainty of her new family's future which explains some of the less-than-good things she has done.
However in the present time, she is willing to interact with outsiders for redemption and hopes that one day she will encounter GEM-tan and hope that GEM-tan's feelings of fear and hatred towards her have died down!
---
And here's the preview of the story!:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_osflashback1preview.jpg)
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-7162
Oh, gawd! epic fail of Nej's discussion-breaker, backed by my comment/idea!!!
A Mod has waltzed right through it without noticing it!!! :(
I am terribly sorry for not noticing! I KNEW I was forgetting something! >__<;
A maintainence-tan does have potential (good ideas on how to show her off although I do not see the possible 'wrong' messages of the crashed ME-tan suggestion) but because of how rarely the forum needs to go under maintainence, she wouldn't be seen much :(
Well, she/they may not be seen often on the forum... but - (heeey wait a minute *flashback from episode of house* i already saw the site down 2, times since i joined) she/they will be posted in the galleries and may even be used outside this forum, maybe...
She could be used as placeholder for nonexistent or problematic areas, too.
Perhaps in the standard template for unwritten pages in the Wiki?
See, there's always uses for a placeholder...
Maybe those red links may get interesting nao?
QuoteNow now, I've never made any cable TV references...they've always been network TV references :P
Okay, then just flat-out "TV references". Having been touching that lately.... TvT
QuoteOf course not! Have you seen the track record of OS-tans you've dumped on me? VMS-sama, Unix-sama, Multics-sama...all designs I'd have never come up with.
WAAAAAAAAH!!! She said "dumped", which denotes negative connotations! ;^0^;
*C-chan rolls into a ball and mopes*
QuoteOh noes, this must be my Russian side. Lawl. /quote]
I've always found Russians to be more realist than macabre. Then again, one could make the argument that that's one and the same thing. ^^'
QuoteSorry to interrupt your jolly conversation, but I'd like some help with brainstorming here.
In the light of the recent maint downtime, Smokey-kun notified me of the fact that our maint page lacks a maintenance-tan. While seemingly trivial, I think fluff is vital to success (at least for us!) on the 'net. Thus! Any ideas, everyone?
I'm thinking hammers, ladders, and a miner's hat, btw.
Oh noes, a Kagura clone is interrupting our jolly conversation.... TvT'
Rather than spending time creating specific "status"-tans, why not just revisit the old idea of creating an OSC-tan, then having her due maintenance, wear a funny hard hat and so forth? ¬¬
Personally, though, I would opt for a picture with multiple preexisting OS-tans doing stuff. Having them in the Infinity-style would certainly make it easier..... ¬v¬
QuoteIt's great that Apple ][-tan has always been kind to her, giving System 1-tan a reason to live... there. But it's sad that while working hard to build a better future for her younger sisters, she was not there to help her younger sister that needed her help right now-- err... then!
That's called "the curse of the modern parent". ^^;
Or in her case, parent substitute -- without Apple I-san, she had to fill in the vacuum of mother, sister, caretaker, teacher, breadwinner, primary shareholder, and so on and so forth ad nauseum... TT;
Sometimes she would return home just to sleep. ;___;
QuoteHow mean of Lisa-tan! That spoiled rotten... girl! (I still like Lisa-tan though) But at least what came around, went around! Lisa-tan did so little with her self the people saw her as useless, favoring the hard-working System 1-tan! And although the work has hard and mostly thankless, it most likely did make System 1-tan a better person, not be spoiled and do learn what the common folk really wanted in a computer! Fortuneatly, she did later manage to live a fairly posh and glamorous lifestyle but with understanding of what the people want and without the being spoiled!
You got the money on the ball. ^^
Can't really blame Lisa-san -- there are a lot of real-life cases of kids spoiled to an extent they can't conceive of basic morality. Some grow out of it, but many others stay that way forever, growing up mostly to be parasites on society. ^^;
She did grow out of it, but not in the smoothest way possible. ;__;
QuoteAlthough she did cheer up considerably after being given a second chance and proving herself to the world, she still had some degree of paranoia as well as feelings of uncertainty of her new family's future which explains some of the less-than-good things she has done.
However in the present time, she is willing to interact with outsiders for redemption and hopes that one day she will encounter GEM-tan and hope that GEM-tan's feelings of fear and hatred towards her have died down!
Yeah, after getting used to seeing 1-chan as the cute little Newspeaker, it's kinda easy to forget that she was once an active OS-tan and did not exactly have a spotless record either.
Almost everyone really has skeletons in the closet.... -___-'
QuoteAnd here's the preview of the story!:
WOW!! That's a brilliant little sketch. ^.^
I'll offer the same advice as before -- do try to keep the story as short as possible so that you can finish it and move on to another one. Other than that, it looks like a winner, and a great educational view at a world most of us never even knew existed. ^^
As for the artwork itself, I love the cute gentle style with which you draw these particular characters. Lisa-san has that proud Marie Antoinette look that's so essential to her character, and 1.0-chan's little imagination bubble is funny as hell. ^.^
It would be nice to see the origin of 1.0-chan's Newsspeak though, as it seems from the preview that she didn't always speak that exclusively. ^___^
QuoteSorry to interrupt your jolly conversation, but I'd like some help with brainstorming here.
In the light of the recent maint downtime, Smokey-kun notified me of the fact that our maint page lacks a maintenance-tan. While seemingly trivial, I think fluff is vital to success (at least for us!) on the 'net. Thus! Any ideas, everyone?
I'm thinking hammers, ladders, and a miner's hat, btw.
Quote*walks through the hall, looks to the left, sees Nej talking in this thread (glass walls/doors), hears conversation, walks in*
Ah, yes...
Thank you Nejin for taking my comment to the proper thread.
Well, there are error-tans (404, 402, etc.), so I don't see any reson why there should be no maintanece-tan. Unfortunetly, I really have no ideas for one; but it seems that the two of you could probably come up with something :D
QuoteHow mean of Lisa-tan! That spoiled rotten... girl! (I still like Lisa-tan though) But at least what came around, went around! Lisa-tan did so little with her self the people saw her as useless, favoring the hard-working System 1-tan! And although the work has hard and mostly thankless, it most likely did make System 1-tan a better person, not be spoiled and do learn what the common folk really wanted in a computer! Fortuneatly, she did later manage to live a fairly posh and glamorous lifestyle but with understanding of what the people want and without the being spoiled!
Although she did cheer up considerably after being given a second chance and proving herself to the world, she still had some degree of paranoia as well as feelings of uncertainty of her new family's future which explains some of the less-than-good things she has done.
However in the present time, she is willing to interact with outsiders for redemption and hopes that one day she will encounter GEM-tan and hope that GEM-tan's feelings of fear and hatred towards her have died down!
Hmmm...there's really a lot of drama in System 1-chan's backstory.
Incidentally, I've always figured GEM-chan and Lisa-san would be really good friends...mostly because both had bad experiences with System 1-tan : /
QuoteAnd here's the preview of the story!:
Oooh, looks interesting....
Quote
WAAAAAAAAH!!! She said "dumped", which denotes negative connotations! ;^0^;
*C-chan rolls into a ball and mopes*
Ah, I was merely quoting you. Without those ideas being dumped on me, VMS-sama would be one helluva lot nuttier, Unix-sama would be quite a bit more Multics-sama-like, and speaking of Multics-sama--she wouldn't exist :D
QuoteI've always found Russians to be more realist than macabre. Then again, one could make the argument that that's one and the same thing. ^^'
Exactly :P
QuoteRather than spending time creating specific "status"-tans, why not just revisit the old idea of creating an OSC-tan, then having her due maintenance, wear a funny hard hat and so forth? ¬¬
Personally, though, I would opt for a picture with multiple preexisting OS-tans doing stuff. Having them in the Infinity-style would certainly make it easier..... ¬v¬
But an OSC-tan would be kinda a tough design to create...I mean, how to you personify a site that's so...diverse...?
QuoteIt would be nice to see the origin of 1.0-chan's Newsspeak though, as it seems from the preview that she didn't always speak that exclusively. ^___^
Hmmm...yes, I just noticed this too....
BTW, nice work on infiltrating pics as DOS, C-chan...
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pos=-4627
Oh and i saw the site down for maintenance...again...
So i made a quick n dirty placeholder...
[attachment deleted by admin]
Hm...
I don't know if the motivator format is a good idea for this, actually.
Nice pun with the coffee and java, but again it doesn't really belong.
No, I suggest we take (or make!) a Crashed pic, and simply caption it "Under Maintenance" or something.
That was merely a reaction to seeing the site under maintenance for the third time, now
Heehee...that's not bad at all! I, too, think that's a great pun...though, it'd be better with a Solaris or Java-tan picture.
And have you considered that perhaps the character used should be a Linux-tan, since the site is hosted on Linux servers? I'm not exactly sure what distro, I think it's Fedora Core...
haven't considered that, i just assumed that the server was Windows-based, since it needed all that maintenance... :D
Oh you, Smokey, you. -w-
Come to think of it, is there an Apache-tan yet?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
It should be very smug against all things M$, since Big, Bad M$ sells Big, Bad Server editions wich can handle anything and is soooooo secure that M$ is running Apache on their servers, cuz they don't trust their own software....
Excuse me for one second.....
*goes into another room to laugh his brain out*
I have seen an Apache-tan around...
What, here? On the galleries?
I don't think it was in the galleries.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/MarcandSiya/Apache-tan.png)
I'm not sure I like her design. But, I can't see her legs, so the effect of the entire design is lost.
interesting....
Very interesting....
Me liek.
Is it possible that that moonspeak rabble can be translated?
Every time I look at it, I'm either too tired or too busy to bother trying to translate it. So, I'll just say no, it can't be translated.
I'll be really happy if somebody proves me wrong, though.
That's why i still don't speak Japanese... :D
Oh man...
*dusts off thread*
Hey, I just found out about a variation of Minix, called Minix-vmd:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix-vmd
I wonder, since this system is about twice as large as Minix, and can support virtual memory and X Window System...would a MinixVmd-tan be Minix-sensei's daughter/Linux-sama's step-sister? ^_^
And to C-Chan...Why I haven't inquired about this before, I don't know...but I saw your vector sketch of Unix-sama yesterday, and the thought occurred to me...what exactly is the meaning of that "C///" thingy on her left sleeve?
Yeah, tell! tell!
Is it CIII as in C the programming language? (UNIX was written in high level programming language)...
or is it a reference to the directory/subdirectory capabilities?
Or, or......Just tell us, pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaase? I'm actually burning with curiosity here... :D
^Also, C programming language was created by Bell Labs!
QuoteYeah, tell! tell!
Is it CIII as in C the programming language? (UNIX was written in high level programming language)...
Quote^Also, C programming language was created by Bell Labs!
Yeah, this was the first thing a I figured; but then I wondered what the three slashes were; unless it is a reference to Unix using forward slashes in file directories instead of backslashes.
No thoughts on MinixVmd-tan, though? I should be one to talk, even I dunno what to think about her.
BTW, Smokey...I think your avi and my avi are having a staring contest or something. Haha.
Quote from: "Bella"BTW, Smokey...I think your avi and my avi are having a staring contest or something. Haha.
LOL, yeah, House's stare in my avvi does creep me out sometimes :D
QuoteLOL, yeah, House's stare in my avvi does creep me out sometimes
You know what it's time for?
OSC's FIRST ANNUAL STARING CONTEST! Dr. House vs. VMS-sama!
(http://ostan-collections.net/images/avatars_ostan/1070632144482b22045c2a5.jpg) VS (http://ostan-collections.net/images/avatars_ostan/42816304947e5dae3b79a3.png)
Fun facts, House once laser-precisely destroyed a tumor with his stare; as did he do the same with a patient who complained about his attitude. VMS-sama once took out 8 skiddies, 3 noobs, and 6 cr4zy sk1ll3d l33t h4ckors, at once!
And Unix-sama vs. Benjamin Linus !
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/CopyofUNIX.png) VS (http://www.ctv.ca/archives/CTVShows/img2/160/160_ben_finale.jpg)
Ben, for those who don't know, is the crazy-like-a-fox hero and/or villain leader of the Others (on Lost). He once melted somebody into a pool of protoplasm by leering at them for mere seconds. Unix-sama has done the same...but also managed to put Slackware-chan into a coma for a week and a half after looking directly at her.
Ladies and gentleman, START YOUR STARING!Oh and speaking of
Lost, I finally discovered what the computers from the show are; apparently, they used a props resembling parts of the SAGE computer system for the mainframes (with IBM magnetic tape reels, ironically used in a station that was controlling a high level of electromagnetism).
And the microcomputer of doom is not a Commodore PET, but a modified Apple ][ with an Apple III monitor!
...So, blind woman with a rocket launcher and a farmer (SAGE-sama and Apple ][-tan) were in control of the world's fate for over 20 years. Perfect :P
Well, in "Swordfish" the base kode for the worm used to raid the bank was stored on a PDP-10, so it would seem that the best way to keep stuff safe is to keep them stored on vintage machines wich only specialized l33t users can acces... :D
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And that's a lot of staring... ;010
QuoteHey, I just found out about a variation of Minix, called Minix-vmd:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix-vmd
I wonder, since this system is about twice as large as Minix, and can support virtual memory and X Window System...would a MinixVmd-tan be Minix-sensei's daughter/Linux-sama's step-sister?
Ehh,... why not? I say there are not enough racoon girls roaming about. ^.^
Course,... for an added twist,... why not make her a Tanuki? ^___^
QuoteAnd to C-Chan...Why I haven't inquired about this before, I don't know...but I saw your vector sketch of Unix-sama yesterday, and the thought occurred to me...what exactly is the meaning of that "C///" thingy on her left sleeve?
I said elsewhere that that was a "U' with some mindless lines added above. However, it would make more sense to make that a "C". ^^
QuoteIs it CIII as in C the programming language? (UNIX was written in high level programming language)...
or is it a reference to the directory/subdirectory capabilities?
Or given the very interesting theories you've all presented, I would shoot back and say,... I dunno.
The point of it is, just like with the "decorations" on the UNIX staff, is to invite heated discussion and debate over their meaning. UNIX-sama certainly isn't going to spoon-feed you by TELLING you,... that would be far too easy. ^.^;
QuoteBen, for those who don't know, is the crazy-like-a-fox hero and/or villain leader of the Others (on Lost). He once melted somebody into a pool of protoplasm by leering at them for mere seconds. Unix-sama has done the same...but also managed to put Slackware-chan into a coma for a week and a half after looking directly at her.
Oh there's just no contest,... UNIX-sama is too darn cute to lose. ^___^
*hears sound of incoming projectile approaching towards him*
Uh-oh... ^^;
Quote...So, blind woman with a rocket launcher and a farmer...
*BOOM*Quote...(SAGE-sama and Apple ][-tan) were in control of the world's fate for over 20 years. Perfect :P
*C-chan pulls self out of rubble*
Aa sou sou,... that's a little better....
Not to say PET-chan isn't capable of controling the world, but,.... I mean,.... just look at her! You can't find a button cuter than that! ^o^
QuoteWell, in "Swordfish" the base kode for the worm used to raid the bank was stored on a PDP-10, so it would seem that the best way to keep stuff safe is to keep them stored on vintage machines wich only specialized l33t users can acces...
Hence why VMS-sama is hacker-proof. ^^;
*hears sound of incoming projectile approaching from another direction*
Oh,... COME.... ON!! >__<
QuoteAnd that's a lot of staring...
*BOOM*
*Sees C-Chan crawling out of rubble, again...*
Hmmmmm, roasted, just the way I like 'em... :D
*Walks over to Unix-sama and pats her on the back of her head*
Is there any meaning to that C///?!
QuoteWell, in "Swordfish" the base kode for the worm used to raid the bank was stored on a PDP-10, so it would seem that the best way to keep stuff safe is to keep them stored on vintage machines wich only specialized l33t users can acces...
Yeah, if everyone went back to using vintage computers and OSs, we wouldn't have half the problems we have today!
QuoteEhh,... why not? I say there are not enough racoon girls roaming about. ^.^
Course,... for an added twist,... why not make her a Tanuki? ^___^
Haha, I was wondering if she should be a racoon girl or not...but a tanuki-girl would be even better! :P
QuoteI said elsewhere that that was a "U' with some mindless lines added above. However, it would make more sense to make that a "C". ^^
I had always assumed it was a C ;)
QuoteOr given the very interesting theories you've all presented, I would shoot back and say,... I dunno.
The point of it is, just like with the "decorations" on the UNIX staff, is to invite heated discussion and debate over their meaning. UNIX-sama certainly isn't going to spoon-feed you by TELLING you,... that would be far too easy. ^.^;
Some things are better left unsaid and up to the viewer's imagination, eh?
QuoteOh there's just no contest,... UNIX-sama is too darn cute to lose. ^___^
But then again, Ben is a notorious mind-gamer as well (in one episode he psychologically tortured somebody using...of all things...a bunny), and is one of the few people who can summon the Island's power to his advantage.
Quote*hears sound of incoming projectile approaching towards him*
Uh-oh... ^^;
*BOOM*
LOCKE! NOOOOOOOOO!
(if you ever watch Lost, you may get this reference. Or not. Hawhaw!)
Quote*Walks over to Unix-sama and pats her on the back of her head*
Is there any meaning to that C///?!
C-Chan ain't gonna be the only one roasted if you keep that up O__O
Quote from: "Bella"C-Chan ain't gonna be the only one roasted if you keep that up O__O
Meh, if i can handle pissed off cats near their kittens and aggressive Rotteilers, an intelligent adult like Unix-sama shouldn't be a problem...
Oh noes, my staring contest ruined the thread! Either that, or it has been melted into a pool of bubbling protoplasm, as well.
Anyhoo....move over VMS-sama, there's another Shark fan in town!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/SharpOS_Splash_Screen.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SharpOS
Interesting notes: SharpOS is a kernel based entirely on the .NET and C# programming languages, both made by M$. But, WTF? It is entirely open source? I mean...WTF?! Isn't that like...trying to build a waterpark in the Gobi Desert? A tropical resort in Siberia? A nature preserve in downtown Hong Kong? An ice hotel in the fiery depths of hell? I mean...I kinda want to gag after reading about this project (the developers are all M$-huggers, as far as I can tell) O.o
What say you, OSC? Are we in need of a SharpOS-tan? All I know is that...
-she'd be young
-she'd be a blatant Microsoftie, while trying to keep the front of being a true FOSS crusader
-there is bound to be plenty of SharpOS-tan/VMS-sama shark humor
Oh my GAWDS. @___@
Well I can probably liken it to giving away unlicensed Mickey Mouse dolls for free. Sure, it IS free,... but you can still get sued for it. ^^;
Actually, open source literally just means that the source is accessible, regardless of the license -- so yeah, it is an open source app. Curiously, it also claims to be licensed under the GPL3,... albeit with the Classpath Linking Exception:
QuoteClasspath is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License with the following clarification and special exception.
Linking this library statically or dynamically with other modules is making a combined work based on this library. Thus, the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License cover the whole combination.
As a special exception, the copyright holders of this library give you permission to link this library with independent modules to produce an executable, regardless of the license terms of these independent modules, and to copy and distribute the resulting executable under terms of your choice, provided that you also meet, for each linked independent module, the terms and conditions of the license of that module. An independent module is a module which is not derived from or based on this library. If you modify this library, you may extend this exception to your version of the library, but you are not obligated to do so. If you do not wish to do so, delete this exception statement from your version.
In other words, the library is allowed to have its own licensing terms -- so while the underlying GPL3 code can be distributed freely, the C# probably cannot, and so it kind of cancels out. :P
You can, in theory, readjust the underlying code to work with a replacement Java or G++ library,... but then you approach dangerously-close to "why bother" territory. ^^;
Regardles, though...
Of COURSE she needs an OS-tan. :P
I like your idea, although I might add that she'd also be part of the so-called MySpace Generation -- a natural-born geek, yet still a slave to fashion, fads and all things popular. She's a huge Mono and Moonlight supporter, despite not really understanding why ("just 'cause...").
In all seriousness, though, while it is unnerving, I can't blame anyone for trying. Some people just want to have fun with the programming languages they're most familiar with, and I'd rather they play around with it independently, then use that knowledge to contaminate and sabotage F/OSS (via the aforementioned MONO and Moonlight, for example).
I wouldn't even care if bill gates himself programmed an OS...
It's a new OS, not made by M$... ;010
QuoteOf COURSE she needs an OS-tan. :P
I like your idea, although I might add that she'd also be part of the so-called MySpace Generation -- a natural-born geek, yet still a slave to fashion, fads and all things popular. She's a huge Mono and Moonlight supporter, despite not really understanding why ("just 'cause...").
In all seriousness, though, while it is unnerving, I can't blame anyone for trying. Some people just want to have fun with the programming languages they're most familiar with, and I'd rather they play around with it independently, then use that knowledge to contaminate and sabotage F/OSS (via the aforementioned MONO and Moonlight, for example).
I figured she'd be kind of a wannabe tough girl; but still very comical in a way...
Ahem....
I am requesting a bit of info on TOPS 10 and/or 20-tan. I do recall discussing some ideas for her character long ago (I remember hearing that she was quite militaristic but has since settled down)...but I do believe they were for a present day TOPS-tan, and the picture in question would be set in the 60s or 70s. All I know is that I envision her rather as a general or some kind of high ranking official, and that I think WAITS-tan would be her genetic daughter (though I dunno if this was just another case of cloning).
Also, are there any physical ideas for her? Or is this fair game?
Also, we have a red-level new character alert! I started reading about CP/CMS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS). I don't know how the hell I missed this system for so long....and now think a CP/CMS-tan must be drawn; her character would be on par with that of Multics-sama or even Unix-sama IMHO. Here's what we know about the system, and what I think a possible character (lots of stuff is ripped off from wikipedia):
-In addition to its role as the ancestor of the VM family, CP/CMS played an important role in the development of operating system theory, in the design of IBM's System/370 and later product lines, in the creation of the time-sharing industry, and in the creation of a self-supporting user community that anticipated today's free software movement. She would be quite a prolific old lass.
-CP/CMS was first released in 1968, and last released in 1972; a version of CP/CMS lives today under the name of VM/370; so I guess CP/CMS-tan would still be alive.
-It belongs to the VM family of IBM mainframes, the logo of which is a green teddy bear. Perhaps CP/CMS-tan's anthropomorphism should be a bear.
-Considered the "mother of all IBM mainframe OSs"
-CP/CMS had three distict versions:
Quote* CP-40/CMS, an important "one-off" research system that established the CP/CMS virtual machine architecture
* CP-67/CMS, a reimplementation of CP-40/CMS for the IBM System/360-67, and the primary focus of this article
* CP-370/CMS, a reimplementation of CP-67/CMS for the System/370 â€" never released as such, but instead becoming the foundation of IBM's VM/370 operating system (announced in 1972 and still in use)
For the sake of simplicity, I will likely make only one CP/CMS-tan, however.
-License was the IBM Type-III Library (free in source code form at no charge to IBM customers, without support). While debatable, CP/CMS is considered by many to be one of the first examples of open source software! I wonder if along with ITS-san, CP/CMS-tan would be a role model for Linux-sama?
-was built in IBM's Cambridge Scientific Center, an R&D department with strong ties to MIT's Project MAC (responsible for Multics' creation). The Cambridge Scientific Center was even housed in the same building as Project MAC. And while not derived from CTSS in a "genetic way", CP/CMS was strongly influenced by CTSS (as much as Multics). Methinks this would make for a good backstory between Multics-sama and CP/CMS-tan. I mean, both were "born" at the same place, and had the same teacher; although, Multics-sama probably would have received more attention (as CTSS was used to build Multics on, and CP/CMS was merely based on CTSS).
- CP/CMS is made of two components:
Quote* CP, the Control Program, created the virtual machine environment. The widely-used version was CP-67, which ran on the S/360-67. (The research system CP-40 established the architecture. A third version, CP-370, became VM/370.) Instead of explicitly dividing up memory and other resources among users, which had been the traditional approach, CP provided each user with a simulated stand-alone System/360 computer, able to run any S/360 software that ran on the bare machine. This gave each user what was, in effect, a private computer system.
* CMS, the Cambridge Monitor System (and also Console Monitor System â€" but renamed Conversational Monitor System in VM) was a lightweight single-user operating system, for interactive timesharing use. By running many copies of CMS in CP's virtual machines â€" instead of multiple copies of large, traditional multi-tasking operating systems â€" the overhead per user was less. This allowed a great number of simultaneous users to share a single S/360.
I have no idea what this means for her character. However, it did have user security that was similar to Multics.
-Was considered a "poor cousin" of IBM's other OSs; while a revolutionary system, it was quite shunned at the time in favor of more primative batch systems. But it rose above limited resources and company politics, to create an enduring and important technical legacy, a fiercely loyal user base, major derivative systems in the time-sharing industry, and, ultimately, a heritage as the grandparent of major 21st century products from IBM (more and more parallels to Multics-sama, I see).
-IBM submitted a proposal to Project MAC. However, IBM's proposal was not well received: MIT chose GE as the MULTICS system vendor. The fallout from this event led directly to CP/CMS.
There's more, but this is all I've read about so far. Right now my head is...kinda spinning after reading about CP/CMS...I still have next to no ideas for a CP/CMS-tan (or -sama) X___X
That is quite an interesting OS and character concept!
However I have no idea what she would look like though :(
That reminds me of CP/M... Do we have a -tan for that one, yet?
Because that would most likely be a cat (If i'm not terribly mistaken, she was DOS' mother)...
Would be fun though, i like kittehz, and cappie would have another pet...
When I look back at this thread, I see someway halfway where it stops being "theories and discussion" and starts being "OS-Tan Archaeology"...
>w<
Restecp tha OS genesis... ;010
@Smokey: Yes, there is a CM/P-tan; but she goes under the name of DR DOS-tan, because that's what CM/P was renamed
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/normal_DRDOS_QDOS-tan%7E0.png)
@Nejin: I think it's a bit more like "OS-tan anthropology", actually :P
But no, this is theoretical stuff. I just thought this thread could be used for character design and OS-tan proposals that couldn't be posted elsewhere.
Okay, I've become a bit enamored with IBM Mainframe OSs; I feel kinda like I did while researching the history of DEC...
As a whole, I've discovered there was a lot of friction between the different branches of OSs and their supporters at IBM. As I understand, the main "families" are/were:
-The OS family (notably OS/360, MVS, z/OS)
-The DOS family (DOS/360, DOS/VSE, and the current z/VSE)
-The VM line (CP/CMS through zVM)
-Specialized systems, like TPF and the current z/TPF
-Imported systems, like Linux on zSeries, MTS, and MUSIC/SP
-This is just a few x__x
Some other thoughts on the IBM family:
-Very old school, probably more so than the DECs; this attitude led to a toppling of their "empire" by smaller upstarts with more open societies
-IBM fostered an early open-source community; I guess the some of the early IBM OS-tans would have been skilled open sourceresses. I also suppose much of this early knowledge would have been lost in later times, and is just now being brought back in IBM (by Linux-sama)
-I suppose there would have been a lot of conflict between the more advanced "clans" (like the VM line), and the less sophisticated ones (like the OS family). Maybe they would have had a certain fear of the sorcery
While there are a great many systems which I'm unsure of personifications for, some that really jump out at me include:
MUSIC/CP
-made in the 1960s, peaked in the 80s, still in use today in emulators
-Used an interactive terminal interface when many mainframes still used punchcards
-popular in universities and high schools
Character notes: I guess MUSIC/CP-tan would be rather lighthearted, schoolgirlish, and likable. Should she be a musical genius, though? :P
TSS/360
-I quote, "historically IBM's worst failure ever at building operating systems"
-First released in 1967
-Had features that were popularized on Multics and VM/CMS
-Like Multics, suffered from the "second system syndrome"
-Other Multics parallels include it being an elegant and very ambitious system, failure caused by performance and reliability problems, and lack of compatibility other systems (OS/360). It had serious stability and performance problems, for it had been snatched from its nest too young".
-IBM attempted to develop it on a very aggressive schedule with a large staff of programmers to compete with Multics
-In February 1968 there were eighteen S/360-67 sites attempting to run TSS. IBM announced via "blue letter" that TSS was being decommitted, and scraped the project in 1971
Character notes: ZOMG, it's Multics-sama's IBM counterpart! Except she didn't have the will to survive that Multics-sama did; nor was she able to successfully work though her problems to become a competent and stable (enough) person O__O'
IBM M44/44X-
-An experimental OS started in the mid 1960s, influenced by CTSS
-While it was used to explore the concepts of virtualization, it did not implement virtualization by a long shot
-Considered one of the best examples of experimental computing
Character notes: Notta : |
IBSYS-
-Made in the 1950s
-based on the SHARE Operating System (SOS), it is considered a continuation of SOS
-Apparently, the source is available online
-Was used in science labs
Character notes: These really old OSs are difficult to personify; judging by the fact IBSYS was used in the fields of science and physics, I suppose perhaps IBSYS-san would have been something of an ancient mathematician and engineer.
FYI, I didn't write all this now, I've been working on this little spiel for some time now. X____X
Okay, so a few quick concept sketches for CP/CMS-sama
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/Copy_of_img358.jpg
and TSS/360-san (aka IB-M-ultics)
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/img357.jpg
Read the above posts for character information....
Actually have to disappear for a while, but will return to finish my rounds. Have two more threads to finish. ^^
*trots off*
QuoteI am requesting a bit of info on TOPS 10 and/or 20-tan. I do recall discussing some ideas for her character long ago (I remember hearing that she was quite militaristic but has since settled down)...but I do believe they were for a present day TOPS-tan, and the picture in question would be set in the 60s or 70s. All I know is that I envision her rather as a general or some kind of high ranking official, and that I think WAITS-tan would be her genetic daughter (though I dunno if this was just another case of cloning).
Also, are there any physical ideas for her? Or is this fair game?
Hmmm,... I actually don't recall we ever talking about TOPS-san to such a great extent, although since the topic did surface before I suppose you're right. Since she is an ancestral DEC, as stated in this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOPS-10
...I suppose she would have had her militaristic side. And while she's old and wise in her present day self, she's also very laid-back and something of a slacker. ^^;
I envisioned her present-day self as having a very sly but otherwise unimposing figure -- Mitsune from Love Hina might be a helpful reference character. Her past self, though, is purely fair game -- although given her DEC lineage and her modern-appearance, a great reference character for her abilities/peronsality might be King Bradley from you-know-where. ^^
QuoteI have no idea what this means for her character. However, it did have user security that was similar to Multics.
-Was considered a "poor cousin" of IBM's other OSs; while a revolutionary system, it was quite shunned at the time in favor of more primative batch systems. But it rose above limited resources and company politics, to create an enduring and important technical legacy, a fiercely loyal user base, major derivative systems in the time-sharing industry, and, ultimately, a heritage as the grandparent of major 21st century products from IBM (more and more parallels to Multics-sama, I see).
-IBM submitted a proposal to Project MAC. However, IBM's proposal was not well received: MIT chose GE as the MULTICS system vendor. The fallout from this event led directly to CP/CMS.
There's more, but this is all I've read about so far. Right now my head is...kinda spinning after reading about CP/CMS...I still have next to no ideas for a CP/CMS-tan (or -sama) X___X
You and me both, sister. XvX
Either way you look at it, though, we're talking hardcore Mainframe-tan here. ^^
I'm actually fairly intrigued about her descendant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z/VM
Even though it's a bit unfair to do this, considering this was glossed over with z/OS-sama,... supposing we had CP/CMS be one of them "evolutionary" OS-tans that just grows with age with each new release. ^^
A la CP/M --> DR-DOS?
Quote@Smokey: Yes, there is a CM/P-tan; but she goes under the name of DR DOS-tan, because that's what CM/P was renamed
Speak of the devil.... @v@
QuoteAs a whole, I've discovered there was a lot of friction between the different branches of OSs and their supporters at IBM. As I understand, the main "families" are/were:
-The OS family (notably OS/360, MVS, z/OS)
-The DOS family (DOS/360, DOS/VSE, and the current z/VSE)
-The VM line (CP/CMS through zVM)
-Specialized systems, like TPF and the current z/TPF
-Imported systems, like Linux on zSeries, MTS, and MUSIC/SP
-This is just a few x__x
I previously covered the OS series, the DOS series and TPF in my annex, but didn't realize the importance of the VM series and glossed over the imported systems.
If you feel like opening a can of worms, the Mainframe-tans offer a story value that would put Greek God mythologies to shame. And this coming from stories of Chronus eating a rock, thinking it was his son Zeus. ^^;
QuoteSome other thoughts on the IBM family:
-Very old school, probably more so than the DECs; this attitude led to a toppling of their "empire" by smaller upstarts with more open societies
-IBM fostered an early open-source community; I guess the some of the early IBM OS-tans would have been skilled open sourceresses. I also suppose much of this early knowledge would have been lost in later times, and is just now being brought back in IBM (by Linux-sama)
-I suppose there would have been a lot of conflict between the more advanced "clans" (like the VM line), and the less sophisticated ones (like the OS family). Maybe they would have had a certain fear of the sorcery
Ah yes, this is going to get messy very quickly. ^v^
By comparison, the stories of PC-DOS and OS/2 are peaceful.
Should probably note that the "opening" of their x86 hardware did much to advance computer usage -- although it was thanks to their own version of beaurocratic "red tape" that they failed to capitalize on that. Indeed, the Linux-tans are helping them rise from out of their own ashes -- but the IBM Mainframe-tans are surely to proud to acknowledge this. ^^'
QuoteMUSIC/CP
-made in the 1960s, peaked in the 80s, still in use today in emulators
-Used an interactive terminal interface when many mainframes still used punchcards
-popular in universities and high schools
Character notes: I guess MUSIC/CP-tan would be rather lighthearted, schoolgirlish, and likable. Should she be a musical genius, though? :P
With that name, it's kinda a no-brainer. Yes. ^.^
We shall call her the Goddess of Music.
QuoteTSS/360
-I quote, "historically IBM's worst failure ever at building operating systems"
-First released in 1967
-Had features that were popularized on Multics and VM/CMS
-Like Multics, suffered from the "second system syndrome"
-Other Multics parallels include it being an elegant and very ambitious system, failure caused by performance and reliability problems, and lack of compatibility other systems (OS/360). It had serious stability and performance problems, for it had been snatched from its nest too young".
-IBM attempted to develop it on a very aggressive schedule with a large staff of programmers to compete with Multics
-In February 1968 there were eighteen S/360-67 sites attempting to run TSS. IBM announced via "blue letter" that TSS was being decommitted, and scraped the project in 1971
Character notes: ZOMG, it's Multics-sama's IBM counterpart! Except she didn't have the will to survive that Multics-sama did; nor was she able to successfully work though her problems to become a competent and stable (enough) person O__O'
Not surprisingly, I have TOS/360 listed as deceased. All we have to do is change a letter to admit TSS/360 in the same boat. -.-
QuoteIBM M44/44X-
-An experimental OS started in the mid 1960s, influenced by CTSS
-While it was used to explore the concepts of virtualization, it did not implement virtualization by a long shot
-Considered one of the best examples of experimental computing
Character notes: Notta : |
Certainly sounds like a deceased OS-tan to me too. >.<
But since she did help pioneer virtualization, I suppose you could depict her as,... well,... whatever we use to characterize virtualization. The first ambassador type? The first hotel owner? The first team leader? The first simulator analyst? Could be lot of things? ^^;
QuoteIBSYS-
-Made in the 1950s
-based on the SHARE Operating System (SOS), it is considered a continuation of SOS
-Apparently, the source is available online
-Was used in science labs
Character notes: These really old OSs are difficult to personify; judging by the fact IBSYS was used in the fields of science and physics, I suppose perhaps IBSYS-san would have been something of an ancient mathematician and engineer.
Wow, now we're getting really ancient -- she in fact PREDATES CTSS-sama, and is only a smidgen younger than GMOS-sama, so we're talking OLD as mole-asses here. @v@
QuoteIBSYS-
-Made in the 1950s
-based on the SHARE Operating System (SOS), it is considered a continuation of SOS
-Apparently, the source is available online
-Was used in science labs
Character notes: These really old OSs are difficult to personify; judging by the fact IBSYS was used in the fields of science and physics, I suppose perhaps IBSYS-san would have been something of an ancient mathematician and engineer.
Well right off the bat, I can imagine a certain resemblance to this [somewhat famous] historical figure:
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/d/daedalus.html
As for her own self, I can imagine she was also something of a hermit -- brilliant, but still left to her own devices. I imagine she's deceased as well, although since her source is available I'll take a quick page from Princess Tutu's Drosselmeyer.
Before her death, she managed to create a [kooky] mechanical version of herself that still continues her research and inventions in her steed, albeit at a slower and more inefficient pace. This her doppleganger does in complete secrecy -- to find her secret laboratory is not unlike scouring the earth for some legendary treasure.
QuoteOkay, so a few quick concept sketches for CP/CMS-sama
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/Copy_of_img358.jpg
She's practically the personification of Goddess Metis herself. ^^
*pours crazy glue over self, and latches onto her leg*
Sorry, I'm appropriating her. She's mine, all mine. None for you. ^.^
Quoteand TSS/360-san (aka IB-M-ultics)
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/img357.jpg
And this one,... as stunning as Goddess/Titaness Rhea herself. ^.^
Drippingly-beautiful,... I fear I could defect from the Multics-sama camp with that jewelry and that hair,... poof....
*pours crazy glue over self, and latches onto HER leg*
MINE!!!!!! ^V^
*realizes he's stretched between two Mainframe-tans*
Eeeep............... I didn't think this through, did I? ^^;
QuoteHmmm,... I actually don't recall we ever talking about TOPS-san to such a great extent, although since the topic did surface before I suppose you're right. Since she is an ancestral DEC, as stated in this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOPS-10
...I suppose she would have had her militaristic side. And while she's old and wise in her present day self, she's also very laid-back and something of a slacker. ^^;
I envisioned her present-day self as having a very sly but otherwise unimposing figure -- Mitsune from Love Hina might be a helpful reference character. Her past self, though, is purely fair game -- although given her DEC lineage and her modern-appearance, a great reference character for her abilities/peronsality might be King Bradley from you-know-where. ^^
Yay, I do know where. I have a few thoughts about her appearance...it'd be better to sketch 'em up than to just ramble about them, I suppose. But basically, I see her as being well-built, with long hair and dressed like a general (complete with the metals and everything). The colors I'm a bit clueless on, perhaps she should have lighter hair/eyes as so many DEC-tans have darker color schemes?
QuoteYou and me both, sister. XvX
Either way you look at it, though, we're talking hardcore Mainframe-tan here. ^^
I'm actually fairly intrigued about her descendant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z/VM
Even though it's a bit unfair to do this, considering this was glossed over with z/OS-sama,... supposing we had CP/CMS be one of them "evolutionary" OS-tans that just grows with age with each new release. ^^
Yeah she would be alive today under the name of VM/370. I do try to bundle as many OS releases into one -tan as I can...
QuoteI previously covered the OS series, the DOS series and TPF in my annex, but didn't realize the importance of the VM series and glossed over the imported systems.
If you feel like opening a can of worms, the Mainframe-tans offer a story value that would put Greek God mythologies to shame. And this coming from stories of Chronus eating a rock, thinking it was his son Zeus. ^^;
I dunno if I'll open that can of worms; I always supposed the older mainframe-tans were a lot more...figuratively and literally...down to earth than their modern counterparts. I do think only the newer generations of mainframe-tans fancy themselves goddesses.
Cause if you think about it, back in the 60s, nothing was particularly special about mainframes--they were just computers. But nowadays with so many PCs, servers and minicomputers, mainframes do seem more exotic and rare in a way.
Not that the ancient IBM mainframe-tans wouldn't be spectacularly powerful, though.
QuoteAh yes, this is going to get messy very quickly. ^v^
By comparison, the stories of PC-DOS and OS/2 are peaceful.
Should probably note that the "opening" of their x86 hardware did much to advance computer usage -- although it was thanks to their own version of beaurocratic "red tape" that they failed to capitalize on that. Indeed, the Linux-tans are helping them rise from out of their own ashes -- but the IBM Mainframe-tans are surely to proud to acknowledge this. ^^
I bet ;)
QuoteWith that name, it's kinda a no-brainer. Yes. ^.^
We shall call her the Goddess of Music.
Somehow I see her with a harp XD
QuoteNot surprisingly, I have TOS/360 listed as deceased. All we have to do is change a letter to admit TSS/360 in the same boat. -.-
WHA?! Not even one mention of the eerie parallels between TSS/360 and Multics-sama? Okay, I just mentioned it for you :P
FYI, there's another system I just read about called TSS 8 that was made at DEC (and is the ancestor of RSTS).
QuoteCertainly sounds like a deceased OS-tan to me too. >.<
But since she did help pioneer virtualization, I suppose you could depict her as,... well,... whatever we use to characterize virtualization. The first ambassador type? The first hotel owner? The first team leader? The first simulator analyst? Could be lot of things? ^^;
I have no ideas X__X
QuoteWow, now we're getting really ancient -- she in fact PREDATES CTSS-sama, and is only a smidgen younger than GMOS-sama, so we're talking OLD as mole-asses here. @v@
Mole-asses? Mole-asses?! You mean, the business end of a mole?! WTF?!?!?!?
QuoteWell right off the bat, I can imagine a certain resemblance to this [somewhat famous] historical figure:
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/d/daedalus.html
As for her own self, I can imagine she was also something of a hermit -- brilliant, but still left to her own devices. I imagine she's deceased as well, although since her source is available I'll take a quick page from Princess Tutu's Drosselmeyer.
Before her death, she managed to create a [kooky] mechanical version of herself that still continues her research and inventions in her steed, albeit at a slower and more inefficient pace. This her doppleganger does in complete secrecy -- to find her secret laboratory is not unlike scouring the earth for some legendary treasure.
Those are excellent ideas, indeed!
QuoteShe's practically the personification of Goddess Metis herself. ^^
*pours crazy glue over self, and latches onto her leg*
Sorry, I'm appropriating her. She's mine, all mine. None for you. ^.^
Never mind that, why am I wanting to draw her and Multics-sama in their uber-rich versions of schoolgirl outfits O___o
QuoteAnd this one,... as stunning as Goddess/Titaness Rhea herself. ^.^
Drippingly-beautiful,... I fear I could defect from the Multics-sama camp with that jewelry and that hair,... poof....
*pours crazy glue over self, and latches onto HER leg*
MINE!!!!!! ^V^
*realizes he's stretched between two Mainframe-tans*
Eeeep............... I didn't think this through, did I? ^^;
Joke's on you, now you're stuck on a psychotic unstable nut-case ;026
Standing animation W.I.P.
This is a gif file. The first frame is 5 seconds.
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/ShinzuiUindo/XP-tan/Xp-tan.gif)
jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
*looks away*
tehe!
Dood! I want that animated-gif-drawing paperz too... :D
Nah, for real... Slick work... ;010
That is so cool! She almost looks like she is about to emerge from the paper! :D
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I return to this thread with an assortment of OS-tan concepts!
first up...
MenuetOS-tan (aka: MeOS)
-fits in a single 1.44 MB floppy disk but is a complete and modern OS
-very fast, easy to install
-is Free/Open Source (32-bit version) or Freeware (64-bit version)
-not object oriented (each app has its own distinct look)
-very little hardware support
-is not based from any OS (was made entirely from scratch)
-color scheme: metallic silver, metallic blue, dark red, with hints of yellow
-futuristic in appearance
-all written in assembly and facilitates easy to use assembly programming
-does have a daughter OS: KolibriOS
character notes: Very introverted, fast, straightforward and efficient. Is a minimalist. Has been a loner for almost her whole life as Menuet OS had not had any OS-tan relatives until the arrival of her daughter, KolibriOS-tan. Wields some kind of lightweight and futuristic weapon; her outfit is a combination of old-fashioned (or at least classy) and futuristic with lots of silver, metallic blue and dark red. Is aligned with the CIOST
AtheOS-tan
-color scheme: teal, grey, sky blue
-an Amiga-like OS
-was originally intended to be an Amiga OS clone
-abandoned in 2002, superseded by Syllable
-free and open source
-development started in 1994
-last release: 0.3.7
-comparable to Sky OS and Menuet OS as hobby OSes
character notes: An Amiga fangirl?! (If that's so, she would NOT get along with Dragonfly BSD-tan!) Is Syllable-tan's mother or older sister. Is a wanderer since her abandonment.
Spring OS-tan
-developed by Sun in the early 1990's
-development faded in mid-1990's
-could allow several OSes to be run at the same time
-divorced from its Unix roots
-some code and ideas from Spring OS made it into Java and Solaris
-first released in 1993-1994
character notes: Solaris-tan's sister, died young but knew Solaris-tan long enough to teach her some new things. She was also very generous but possibly considered a traitor to other Unices for not staying true to her roots. Dressed mainly in purple and orange with lots of flowers and spring-shaped jewelry.
GENIAC-tan (aka: "Genius Almost-Automatic Computer")
Also represents Geniac variants:
Tyniac (Tiny Almost-Automatic Computer)
Weeniac (Weeny Almost-Automatic Computer)
Brainiac (Brain-Imitating Almost-Automatic Computer)
-is small, affordable, digital and user programmable
-limited in use
-first released in 1955 and is one of the oldest personal computers
-Could play Tic-Tac-Toe, convert binary to decimal, do addition
-used electric rotary switches
character notes: GENIAC-tan was extremely intelligent (A brainiac! A genius!) but was frail, could not completely function on her own (was only almost automatic. Was always accompanied by at least one of her caretakers) and was limited in things she was able to do but what she could do, she could do well! She liked to play simple games- her favorite being Tic-Tac-Toe.
Very childlike (physical age of 5-7 years old, height in the 3ft. range) in appearance and wore a very old-fashioned dress or school uniform. Her outfit was brown + white.
That's a neat animation! I really like how you shaded it...
And hey! Wow, some new OS-tan concepts courtesy of Aurora-san! Let's see...
QuoteMenuetOS-tan (aka: MeOS)
-fits in a single 1.44 MB floppy disk but is a complete and modern OS
-very fast, easy to install
-is Free/Open Source (32-bit version) or Freeware (64-bit version)
-not object oriented (each app has its own distinct look)
-very little hardware support
-is not based from any OS (was made entirely from scratch)
-color scheme: metallic silver, metallic blue, dark red, with hints of yellow
-futuristic in appearance
-all written in assembly and facilitates easy to use assembly programming
-does have a daughter OS: KolibriOS
character notes: Very introverted, fast, straightforward and efficient. Is a minimalist. Has been a loner for almost her whole life as Menuet OS had not had any OS-tan relatives until the arrival of her daughter, KolibriOS-tan. Wields some kind of lightweight and futuristic weapon; her outfit is a combination of old-fashioned (or at least classy) and futuristic with lots of silver, metallic blue and dark red. Is aligned with the CIOST
Those are some interesting ideas. I really like the idea for the retro-futuristic outfit and color scheme! I know I've read about MeOS as some point, cause I remember trying to think up a design for a KolibriOS-tan (hyperactive hummingbird-girl, anyone?).
QuoteAtheOS-tan
-color scheme: teal, grey, sky blue
-an Amiga-like OS
-was originally intended to be an Amiga OS clone
-abandoned in 2002, superseded by Syllable
-free and open source
-development started in 1994
-last release: 0.3.7
-comparable to Sky OS and Menuet OS as hobby OSes
character notes: An Amiga fangirl?! (If that's so, she would NOT get along with Dragonfly BSD-tan!) Is Syllable-tan's mother or older sister. Is a wanderer since her abandonment.
Again, again, I read about AtheOS but never could think up a good designs. I also figured she'd be a relative of Syllable-tan...
And yeah, I do think that the both of them would be Miggy fangirls :P
QuoteSpring OS-tan
-developed by Sun in the early 1990's
-development faded in mid-1990's
-could allow several OSes to be run at the same time
-divorced from its Unix roots
-some code and ideas from Spring OS made it into Java and Solaris
-first released in 1993-1994
character notes: Spring OS-tan died young but knew Solaris-tan long enough to teach her some new things. She was also very generous but possibly considered a traitor to other Unices for not staying true to her roots. Dressed mainly in purple and orange with lots of flowers and spring-shaped jewelry.
Hmmmm....this is news to me; I have heard of Spring OS, but never knew the details of it. Good work :D
I hate to be a wild conspiracy theorist, but...considering that Sun OS (and therefore Solaris) contains some Spring OS source, might Spring OS-tan have been either Solaris-tan's mother or mentor? This could add some Sap to Solaris-san's backstory, because this might mean that she decided to become an open-sourceress to avoid her mentor (or mom's?!) fate.
I wonder what you mean by "divorced from its Unix roots" though. I have to wiki Spring OS and see what comes up...
QuoteGENIAC-tan (aka: "Genius Almost-Automatic Computer")
Also represents Geniac variants:
Tyniac (Tiny Almost-Automatic Computer)
Weeniac (Weeny Almost-Automatic Computer)
Brainiac (Brain-Imitating Almost-Automatic Computer)
-is small, affordable, digital and user programmable
-limited in use
-first released in 1955 and is one of the oldest personal computers (only seconded by the Simon, released in 1950)
-Could play Tic-Tac-Toe, convert binary to decimal, do addition
-used electric rotary switches
character notes: GENIAC-tan is extremely intelligent (A brainiac! A genius!) but is frail, cannot completely function on her own (is only almost automatic. Is always accompanied by at least one of her caretakers) and very limited in usefulness but what she could do, she could do well! She likes to play simple games- her favorite being Tic-Tac-Toe. She is likely deceased.
Appears very childlike (physical age of 5-7 years old, height in the 3ft. range) and wears a very old-fashioned dress or school uniform. Her outfit is brown + white.
Tic-Tac-Toe? Everybody knows that game can't be won! (I just watched WarGames, it had a Tic-Tac-Toe playing computer too. That was trying to start a nuclear war.)
Onto topic, this description of her sounds wonderful! She almost sounds like an ancient MSDOS-tan or something. I do agree she's probably dead now, though... :(
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BTW, Aurora, I'm amused by your new avatar...in a scary kinda way :P
Quote from: "Bella"
Those are some interesting ideas. I really like the idea for the retro-futuristic outfit and color scheme! I know I've read about MeOS as some point, cause I remember trying to think up a design for a KolibriOS-tan (hyperactive hummingbird-girl, anyone?).
KolibriOS-tan the hyperactive hummingbird-girl... I like that! I also imagine she would dress very vibrantly with lots of feathers in her outfit and hair, and that she would love to dress up!
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Again, again, I read about AtheOS but never could think up a good designs. I also figured she'd be a relative of Syllable-tan...
And yeah, I do think that the both of them would be Miggy fangirls :P
I couldn't really think of anything either. I know she'd have some resemblance to Syllable-tan. And maybe include a slight resemblance to Amiga-tan as well.
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Hmmmm....this is news to me; I have heard of Spring OS, but never knew the details of it. Good work :D
I hate to be a wild conspiracy theorist, but...considering that Sun OS (and therefore Solaris) contains some Spring OS source, might Spring OS-tan have been either Solaris-tan's mother or mentor? This could add some Sap to Solaris-san's backstory, because this might mean that she decided to become an open-sourceress to avoid her mentor (or mom's?!) fate.
Spring OS is much younger than Solaris so she would have been Solaris-tan's younger sister who also taught her big sis some things and assumed the role as her mentor as well.
But I completely aggree with Solaris-tan becoming an open-sourceress to avoid Spring OS-tan's fate.
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I wonder what you mean by "divorced from its Unix roots" though. I have to wiki Spring OS and see what comes up...
Not completely sure either. It was in the wiki article for Spring OS.
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Tic-Tac-Toe? Everybody knows that game can't be won! (I just watched WarGames, it had a Tic-Tac-Toe playing computer too. That was trying to start a nuclear war.)
Speaking of "Wargames", did you know that the protagonist used an IMSAI 8080 to hack that military supercomputer? :D
I've even got a description and sketched design in progress for an IMSAI 8080-tan!:
IMSAI 8080-tan is possibly Altair 8800-tan's clone and were each other's main competitors and were mortal enemies. As I mentioned when I introduced Altair-tan, she was at a disadvantage but was so focused on knocking IMSAI 8080-tan out of the competition instead of improving herself that she caused her own demise. IMSAI 8080-tan is much stronger and hardier than her rival (The IMSAI 8080 was also more successful and outlasted the Altair by several years) and is aligned with the CIOST.
Appearance-wise, she has silver hair and dark purple eyes, dresses eccentrically yet casually with her outfit having lots of red and blue in it. She is also short too, only as tall as Altair-tan (137 cm tall, or 4'6'') but don't be fooled by her short stature and eccentric appearance- she is a lot tougher and more professional than she looks!
In her prime, she was an engineer for the military and has even devised schemes for mind control (a reference to hacking, which is also a reference to the movie "WarGames" in which the protagonist used an IMSAI 8080 to hack a military supercomputer. The IMSAI 8080 was also used for scientific applications, military and government applications and computer sciences; as well as small businesses, data communication, banking and insurance programs and even for personal computer systems). She retired from her military career after her demise from the competition due to more popular competitors (i.e: Apple ][-tan) as well as faulty 'upgrades'. She knew that the competitors were inevitable but thought the faulty upgrades were a ploy by her second company to eliminate her for falling behind and losing support from the home users (since her competitors were so much user-friendlier. Although she still did have a lot of support from the military, the government, top scientists, and high-ranking business people; they were only a small percentage of the people, with home users being the majority).
Now she is a businesswoman and the messenger for the CIOST to keep members in contact with each other and arrange meetings when need be. Also, although she usually does not have a lot of money, she strives to the the benefactor for small businesses in need. Oh, and she has the recurring desire to return to her days as a super powerful military engineer! But, despite being rather maniacal and crazy, she is actually very unselfish.
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Onto topic, this description of her sounds wonderful! She almost sounds like an ancient MSDOS-tan or something. I do agree she's probably dead now, though... :(
Back on to the topic of Geniac-tan, sadly I now consider her deceased. The Geniac doesn't have a cult following like some other early personal computers do, nor do I know if there are enough surviving units to keep the system alive. Which is a bummer because she had so much wisdom to share with the world, if she was able to!
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BTW, Aurora, I'm amused by your new avatar...in a scary kinda way :P
Thanks! It's from a scene in the first "Pretty Cure" series! The original PreCure is the best of all the PreCure series, IMO!
Alright, think I'm almost done with legacy responses. ^^;
QuoteI dunno if I'll open that can of worms; I always supposed the older mainframe-tans were a lot more...figuratively and literally...down to earth than their modern counterparts. I do think only the newer generations of mainframe-tans fancy themselves goddesses.
Cause if you think about it, back in the 60s, nothing was particularly special about mainframes--they were just computers. But nowadays with so many PCs, servers and minicomputers, mainframes do seem more exotic and rare in a way.
Oooh,... you sure about that? ^^;
I know they're function is small in comparison to modern systems,.... but the PHYSICAL SIZE OF THOSE SYSTEMS....
(http://www.yelavich.com/mphotos/sage.jpg)
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I dunno,... might have to challenge that. I always viewed them as the transition of Titans -> Gods -> Demi-Gods,... after a while, it just gets pointless to manifest oneself as being physically large, especially as the "smaller" OS-tan world gains in size and relevance and self-sufficiency. That's why, in my future "romp" of the OS-tan world, my beloved giant Mainframe-tans are all but extinct.
While I do agree that they would not have thought themselves as goddesses, that would have been the impression once mini and micro personal computers started showing up.
To use a more contemporary example, neither ME-tan nor XP-tan think of themselves as goddesses (except perhaps beauty-wise?), since they power the kind of personal computers that 99% of the world uses. However, they do realize that they are MUCH larger and MUCH more powerful than CE-tan, which still runs on only a smattering of personal electronic devices.
However, the way the computer world is evolving, it wouldn't be long before the likes of CE-chan or Palm-chan or Symbian-chan or all matter of embedded Linux-tans take over the title of the world's majority population. In this scenario, these cute little lilliputians become the new "normal", and the likes of ME-tan and XP-tan would find themselves as the new titans.
But then again, it is a moot point, as the size difference among Guild members is almost purely artificial. In fairness, it might not have been a "fad" to appear that large until AFTER the micro/mini computers started appearing, when it was important to drill the fact into the newcomer's heads that they were bigger and better. ^^;
QuoteFYI, there's another system I just read about called TSS 8 that was made at DEC (and is the ancestor of RSTS).
Oooh, just keep piling on the ancestors. ^___^
QuoteMole-asses? Mole-asses?! You mean, the business end of a mole?! WTF?!?!?!?
Made you blink! ^.^
QuoteNever mind that, why am I wanting to draw her and Multics-sama in their uber-rich versions of schoolgirl outfits O___o
You mean the schoolgirl outfits that have enough jewelry to take a small nation out of debt, and are usually adorned with Angora fluffy socks? ^___^'
*SQUEALS*
Okay, I'm sold. Gimme. ^^
QuoteJoke's on you, now you're stuck on a psychotic unstable nut-case
Correction,... a GIANT unstable nut-case. ^.^
*coos with delight and hugs TSS/360-tan's leg*
*SLAP*
*gets swatted and squashed like a mosquito*
Quotecharacter notes: Very introverted, fast, straightforward and efficient. Is a minimalist. Has been a loner for almost her whole life as Menuet OS had not had any OS-tan relatives until the arrival of her daughter, KolibriOS-tan. Wields some kind of lightweight and futuristic weapon; her outfit is a combination of old-fashioned (or at least classy) and futuristic with lots of silver, metallic blue and dark red. Is aligned with the CIOST
Yep, just checked... MenuetOS-tan is in the CIOST roster. ^.^
And from the sound of it, another excellent fighter to assist VMS-sama. Not a friend per se, but loyal and to-the-point.
Quotecharacter notes: An Amiga fangirl?! (If that's so, she would NOT get along with Dragonfly BSD-tan!) Is Syllable-tan's mother or older sister. Is a wanderer since her abandonment.
Actually, I was bouncing back and forth the idea of conceiving an AtheOS-tan way back then. Eventually I chose against it for reasonx XYZ, but here she appears once more. ^.^
Probably would opt to make her Syllable-tan's older sister. Maybe she's not a full fangirl, but probably a strong admirer of Amiga-san, who perhaps at one point of her life helped her in a time of need (and thus AtheOS-tan has felt grateful ever since). Not to say DragonFlyBSD-chan wouldn't hold your suspicions, though. ^^;
Quotecharacter notes: Solaris-tan's sister, died young but knew Solaris-tan long enough to teach her some new things. She was also very generous but possibly considered a traitor to other Unices for not staying true to her roots. Dressed mainly in purple and orange with lots of flowers and spring-shaped jewelry.
Aww,... sorry about keeping her on the Deceased list.... ;___;
Now that you mention it, she kinda sorta sounds like the Sun version of Apple I-san. That would kinda make Solaris-sama akin to a Lisa-chan then, and might also explain a bit of her own internal bitterness she feels. Given the coldness of the Unices of that era, I doubt any of them offered themselves as a substitute "older sister" for Solaris-sama. ^^
Quotecharacter notes: GENIAC-tan was extremely intelligent (A brainiac! A genius!) but was frail, could not completely function on her own (was only almost automatic. Was always accompanied by at least one of her caretakers) and was limited in things she was able to do but what she could do, she could do well! She liked to play simple games- her favorite being Tic-Tac-Toe.
Very childlike (physical age of 5-7 years old, height in the 3ft. range) in appearance and wore a very old-fashioned dress or school uniform. Her outfit was brown + white.
Oooh,... the name sounds familiar,...
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AH YES, I remember where we saw that last! ^___^
http://www.blinkenlights.com/pc.shtml
Actually that still opens up the active debate of computer hardware vs OS software, but why not. That'd certainly give me the excuse I need to lobby for giant Mainframe-tans apearing earlier rather than later. ^.^
For some reason, I envision her as being rather puppet-like -- although not made out of wood, she can't move or function without having someone (such as a caretaker) hold her handle. She'd be a kind of anti-Pinocchio -- she's a real girl and a smart one at that, but sadly is bound by strings forever.
I can even think up some sap in that regards. She might have been very famous in her day, but after her caretaker outgrew her for newer more advanced systems, she was left in an attic motionless and forgotten for many decades.
The one day some young vintage-tans, searching for spare parts in the antic, discover her and nearly fall back in fright as she comes to life the moment someone holds her handle. GENIAC-san would be happy and cheery at first, but quickly grows sad and frightened as she realizes almost 50 years have passed and the world and friends she once knew are long gone. Moreover, she develops a terrible fear of going back to "sleep", as she dreads the thought of waking up another several decades later.
It's hard at first for the Vintage-tans to "pass her around", trying to help her get used to the modern world while still trying to live out their own lives -- in a way it ends up yielding mixed results, as GENIAC-san ends up feeling like an old, tired dog on a leash. Fortunately EXEC-sama, who already feels like she contributes little, gladly volunteers to be GENIAC-chan's caretaker.
Her infinite patience and motherly demeanor help the younger-minded GENIAC -- but the fact that EXEC-sama is actually OLDER is also valuable as she's able to talk to the GENIAC-chan using words, imagery and memories that the two can relate to. Over time the two become great friends -- and while there is still some work to be done to calm GENIAC-chan's phobias, at least now she's more comfortable in her interactions with the newer girls.
Certainly she feels eager to spend time chatting with other fellow "geniuses" (=C64-tan), even if she usually ends up offering more obstructive questions than constructive answers. ^^;
QuoteI hate to be a wild conspiracy theorist, but...considering that Sun OS (and therefore Solaris) contains some Spring OS source, might Spring OS-tan have been either Solaris-tan's mother or mentor? This could add some Sap to Solaris-san's backstory, because this might mean that she decided to become an open-sourceress to avoid her mentor (or mom's?!) fate.
I see there's no shortage of sap tonight,... fufu.... ^___^
QuoteKolibriOS-tan the hyperactive hummingbird-girl... I like that! I also imagine she would dress very vibrantly with lots of feathers in her outfit and hair, and that she would love to dress up!
OOOH!!! OOOH!!! OOOH!!!
I want MA HUMMINGBIRD GIRL.... NOW!!!!!!!! ^V^
QuoteSpring OS is much younger than Solaris so she would have been Solaris-tan's younger sister who also taught her big sis some things and assumed the role as her mentor as well.
But I completely aggree with Solaris-tan becoming an open-sourceress to avoid Spring OS-tan's fate.
Aa sou, I [we?] stand corrected. ^^
Okay, so perhaps the parallel is more like Lisa-chan and Mac 1.0-chan, had 1.0-chan been taken away. While Lisa-tan might have treated 1.0-chan badly, I have no doubt she would have been devastated if she had "won", and managed to accidentally get rid of her younger sister. '__'
QuoteIMSAI 8080-tan is possibly Altair 8800-tan's clone and were each other's main competitors and were mortal enemies. As I mentioned when I introduced Altair-tan, she was at a disadvantage but was so focused on knocking IMSAI 8080-tan out of the competition instead of improving herself that she caused her own demise. IMSAI 8080-tan is much stronger and hardier than her rival (The IMSAI 8080 was also more successful and outlasted the Altair by several years) and is aligned with the CIOST.
WOW!!! So now we have that famous system that starred in Wargames working alongside VMS-sama!! By GAWD, she has an all-star cast lined up already! @v@
QuoteAppearance-wise, she has silver hair and dark purple eyes, dresses eccentrically yet casually with her outfit having lots of red and blue in it. She is also short too, only as tall as Altair-tan (137 cm tall, or 4'6'') but don't be fooled by her short stature and eccentric appearance- she is a lot tougher and more professional than she looks!
But she's still short. T__T
I mean, that's.... baaaaaaaaaaaaaarely,... DR-DOS-sama's height. T____T'
But then so is UNIX-sama, and you see what a tough cookie she is. ^^;
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Uh-oh, did I just say "cookie". ^____^;
*here's sound of long-range missile, holding a boot for a warhead, propelling towards him*
QuoteIn her prime, she was an engineer for the military and has even devised schemes for mind control (a reference to hacking, which is also a reference to the movie "WarGames" in which the protagonist used an IMSAI 8080 to hack a military supercomputer. The IMSAI 8080 was also used for scientific applications, military and government applications and computer sciences; as well as small businesses, data communication, banking and insurance programs and even for personal computer systems). She retired from her military career after her demise from the competition due to more popular competitors (i.e: Apple ][-tan) as well as faulty 'upgrades'. She knew that the competitors were inevitable but thought the faulty upgrades were a ploy by her second company to eliminate her for falling behind and losing support from the home users (since her competitors were so much user-friendlier. Although she still did have a lot of support from the military, the government, top scientists, and high-ranking business people; they were only a small percentage of the people, with home users being the majority).
Now she is a businesswoman and the messenger for the CIOST to keep members in contact with each other and arrange meetings when need be. Also, although she usually does not have a lot of money, she strives to the the benefactor for small businesses in need. Oh, and she has the recurring desire to return to her days as a super powerful military engineer! But, despite being rather maniacal and crazy, she is actually very unselfish.
Oooh,... keeping the CIOST members well-connected is NOT an easy task,... the girl's got guts to be able to take that upon herself. ^^
Her military experience probably also helps, from time to time, with the planning of strategies. Between her tacit experience in the field, VMS-sama's resourcefulness, BeOS-san's intelligence, TRON-sama's unbreakable intelligence network, and GECOS-sama's ruthless pragmatism, you already have an idea of the kind of strategic genius behind the CIOST's survival all these years.
QuoteBack on to the topic of Geniac-tan, sadly I now consider her deceased. The Geniac doesn't have a cult following like some other early personal computers do, nor do I know if there are enough surviving units to keep the system alive. Which is a bummer because she had so much wisdom to share with the world, if she was able to!
Well that's true, but as a consumer unit I do imagine there has to be one or two out there at least.
To expand upon her previous sap story, supposing there were once hundreds of GENIAC-tan's, and she's literally the last surviving one. Only she/they wouldn't know it, and so the search for her other sisters is a kind of side-project they engage in. Though it likely won't yield the desired results, who knows what other mysteries and discoveries they come across in their searches.
QuoteKolibriOS-tan the hyperactive hummingbird-girl... I like that! I also imagine she would dress very vibrantly with lots of feathers in her outfit and hair, and that she would love to dress up!
...and also likes to drink sugar-water XD
QuoteI couldn't really think of anything either. I know she'd have some resemblance to Syllable-tan. And maybe include a slight resemblance to Amiga-tan as well.
I thought Syllable-tan resembled Amiga-tan quite a bit...
QuoteSpring OS is much younger than Solaris so she would have been Solaris-tan's younger sister who also taught her big sis some things and assumed the role as her mentor as well.
But I completely aggree with Solaris-tan becoming an open-sourceress to avoid Spring OS-tan's fate.
Oh, I see, I thought Spring OS was older...
QuoteSpeaking of "Wargames", did you know that the protagonist used an IMSAI 8080 to hack that military supercomputer?
I've even got a description and sketched design in progress for an IMSAI 8080-tan!:
IMSAI 8080-tan is possibly Altair 8800-tan's clone and were each other's main competitors and were mortal enemies. As I mentioned when I introduced Altair-tan, she was at a disadvantage but was so focused on knocking IMSAI 8080-tan out of the competition instead of improving herself that she caused her own demise. IMSAI 8080-tan is much stronger and hardier than her rival (The IMSAI 8080 was also more successful and outlasted the Altair by several years) and is aligned with the CIOST.
Appearance-wise, she has silver hair and dark purple eyes, dresses eccentrically yet casually with her outfit having lots of red and blue in it. She is also short too, only as tall as Altair-tan (137 cm tall, or 4'6'') but don't be fooled by her short stature and eccentric appearance- she is a lot tougher and more professional than she looks!
In her prime, she was an engineer for the military and has even devised schemes for mind control (a reference to hacking, which is also a reference to the movie "WarGames" in which the protagonist used an IMSAI 8080 to hack a military supercomputer. The IMSAI 8080 was also used for scientific applications, military and government applications and computer sciences; as well as small businesses, data communication, banking and insurance programs and even for personal computer systems). She retired from her military career after her demise from the competition due to more popular competitors (i.e: Apple ][-tan) as well as faulty 'upgrades'. She knew that the competitors were inevitable but thought the faulty upgrades were a ploy by her second company to eliminate her for falling behind and losing support from the home users (since her competitors were so much user-friendlier. Although she still did have a lot of support from the military, the government, top scientists, and high-ranking business people; they were only a small percentage of the people, with home users being the majority).
Now she is a businesswoman and the messenger for the CIOST to keep members in contact with each other and arrange meetings when need be. Also, although she usually does not have a lot of money, she strives to the the benefactor for small businesses in need. Oh, and she has the recurring desire to return to her days as a super powerful military engineer! But, despite being rather maniacal and crazy, she is actually very unselfish.
Wow, I can't wait to see IMSAT 8080-tan...she sounds really cool...
....And more and more characters keep stacking up for my planned CIOST ensemble picture....
QuoteOooh,... you sure about that? ^^;
I know they're function is small in comparison to modern systems,.... but the PHYSICAL SIZE OF THOSE SYSTEMS....
I dunno,... might have to challenge that. I always viewed them as the transition of Titans -> Gods -> Demi-Gods,... after a while, it just gets pointless to manifest oneself as being physically large, especially as the "smaller" OS-tan world gains in size and relevance and self-sufficiency. That's why, in my future "romp" of the OS-tan world, my beloved giant Mainframe-tans are all but extinct.
While I do agree that they would not have thought themselves as goddesses, that would have been the impression once mini and micro personal computers started showing up.
I almost think the opposite. I kinda thought that back in the day they wouldn't have been giants, that this would have been a somewhat new trend; that's not to say that they weren't very advanced as a society, though.
I kinda see it like this; say there's an ancient culture, like the ones so common in fiction, where sorcery and magic is commonplace. But nowadays, anyone who practices "magic" is considered something of a loon. I guess what I'm saying is, even though they were very advanced, this was considered common; mainframes are only now "special" because of their status amongst so many smaller machines.
QuoteTo use a more contemporary example, neither ME-tan nor XP-tan think of themselves as goddesses (except perhaps beauty-wise?), since they power the kind of personal computers that 99% of the world uses. However, they do realize that they are MUCH larger and MUCH more powerful than CE-tan, which still runs on only a smattering of personal electronic devices.
However, the way the computer world is evolving, it wouldn't be long before the likes of CE-chan or Palm-chan or Symbian-chan or all matter of embedded Linux-tans take over the title of the world's majority population. In this scenario, these cute little lilliputians become the new "normal", and the likes of ME-tan and XP-tan would find themselves as the new titans.
I see your point; but again, I kinda think the opposite. Sure, small OSes are a bit uncommon now, but soon enough they'll be everywhere and be the new "common" OSes. Then I think that they will cease being very small, and perhaps just be normal sized (albeit with less endowment then some of their predecessors ;) )
QuoteBut then again, it is a moot point, as the size difference among Guild members is almost purely artificial. In fairness, it might not have been a "fad" to appear that large until AFTER the micro/mini computers started appearing, when it was important to drill the fact into the newcomer's heads that they were bigger and better. ^^;
I couldn't have put it better myself ;)
QuoteOooh, just keep piling on the ancestors. ^___^
I have no ideas for a TSS 8-tan, though...alls I know is that she'd be RSTS-tan's mom.
QuoteYou mean the schoolgirl outfits that have enough jewelry to take a small nation out of debt, and are usually adorned with Angora fluffy socks? ^___^'
*SQUEALS*
Okay, I'm sold. Gimme. ^^
*puts in queue of summer drawings*
QuoteYep, just checked... MenuetOS-tan is in the CIOST roster. ^.^
And from the sound of it, another excellent fighter to assist VMS-sama. Not a friend per se, but loyal and to-the-point.
*adds MenuetOS-tan to the lineup of CIOST-tans in picture*
Oh no, I'm seeing a Spruce Goose a coming...
QuoteActually, I was bouncing back and forth the idea of conceiving an AtheOS-tan way back then. Eventually I chose against it for reasonx XYZ, but here she appears once more. ^.^
Probably would opt to make her Syllable-tan's older sister. Maybe she's not a full fangirl, but probably a strong admirer of Amiga-san, who perhaps at one point of her life helped her in a time of need (and thus AtheOS-tan has felt grateful ever since). Not to say DragonFlyBSD-chan wouldn't hold your suspicions, though. ^^;
I agree here...
QuoteAww,... sorry about keeping her on the Deceased list.... ;___;
Now that you mention it, she kinda sorta sounds like the Sun version of Apple I-san. That would kinda make Solaris-sama akin to a Lisa-chan then, and might also explain a bit of her own internal bitterness she feels. Given the coldness of the Unices of that era, I doubt any of them offered themselves as a substitute "older sister" for Solaris-sama. ^^
'cept, backwards-like.
QuoteOooh,... the name sounds familiar,...
....
AH YES, I remember where we saw that last! ^___^
http://www.blinkenlights.com/pc.shtml
Actually that still opens up the active debate of computer hardware vs OS software, but why not. That'd certainly give me the excuse I need to lobby for giant Mainframe-tans apearing earlier rather than later. ^.^
For some reason, I envision her as being rather puppet-like -- although not made out of wood, she can't move or function without having someone (such as a caretaker) hold her handle. She'd be a kind of anti-Pinocchio -- she's a real girl and a smart one at that, but sadly is bound by strings forever.
I can even think up some sap in that regards. She might have been very famous in her day, but after her caretaker outgrew her for newer more advanced systems, she was left in an attic motionless and forgotten for many decades.
The one day some young vintage-tans, searching for spare parts in the antic, discover her and nearly fall back in fright as she comes to life the moment someone holds her handle. GENIAC-san would be happy and cheery at first, but quickly grows sad and frightened as she realizes almost 50 years have passed and the world and friends she once knew are long gone. Moreover, she develops a terrible fear of going back to "sleep", as she dreads the thought of waking up another several decades later.
It's hard at first for the Vintage-tans to "pass her around", trying to help her get used to the modern world while still trying to live out their own lives -- in a way it ends up yielding mixed results, as GENIAC-san ends up feeling like an old, tired dog on a leash. Fortunately EXEC-sama, who already feels like she contributes little, gladly volunteers to be GENIAC-chan's caretaker.
Her infinite patience and motherly demeanor help the younger-minded GENIAC -- but the fact that EXEC-sama is actually OLDER is also valuable as she's able to talk to the GENIAC-chan using words, imagery and memories that the two can relate to. Over time the two become great friends -- and while there is still some work to be done to calm GENIAC-chan's phobias, at least now she's more comfortable in her interactions with the newer girls.
Certainly she feels eager to spend time chatting with other fellow "geniuses" (=C64-tan), even if she usually ends up offering more obstructive questions than constructive answers. ^^;
What a wonderful little story...I love the idea :D
QuoteAa sou, I [we?] stand corrected. ^^
Okay, so perhaps the parallel is more like Lisa-chan and Mac 1.0-chan, had 1.0-chan been taken away. While Lisa-tan might have treated 1.0-chan badly, I have no doubt she would have been devastated if she had "won", and managed to accidentally get rid of her younger sister. '__'
*puts Solaris-san and SpringOS-chan picture in queue*
I think my lineup of pictures is going to devour me before mid-August XD
QuoteBut she's still short. T__T
I mean, that's.... baaaaaaaaaaaaaarely,... DR-DOS-sama's height. T____T'
But then so is UNIX-sama, and you see what a tough cookie she is. ^^;
.....
Uh-oh, did I just say "cookie". ^____^;
*here's sound of long-range missile, holding a boot for a warhead, propelling towards him*
Calling Unix-sama short + calling her a tough cookie = CERTAIN DEATH!!! Missile-propelled boot is new, I think, even for Unix-sama :P
QuoteOooh,... keeping the CIOST members well-connected is NOT an easy task,... the girl's got guts to be able to take that upon herself. ^^
Her military experience probably also helps, from time to time, with the planning of strategies. Between her tacit experience in the field, VMS-sama's resourcefulness, BeOS-san's intelligence, TRON-sama's unbreakable intelligence network, and GECOS-sama's ruthless pragmatism, you already have an idea of the kind of strategic genius behind the CIOST's survival all these years.
Oh gawd I'm gonna have to add a modern-day GECOS-san in the CIOST picture...just thinking about this is sapping my strength O___O
QuoteTo expand upon her previous sap story, supposing there were once hundreds of GENIAC-tan's, and she's literally the last surviving one. Only she/they wouldn't know it, and so the search for her other sisters is a kind of side-project they engage in. Though it likely won't yield the desired results, who knows what other mysteries and discoveries they come across in their searches.
So wait, it's possible she has other sisters out there..?
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Oooh,... you sure about that? ^^;
I know they're function is small in comparison to modern systems,....
Our wristwatches may have more computing power than those 'ancient' computer systems of the 1960's!
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but the PHYSICAL SIZE OF THOSE SYSTEMS....
....
That is freaking HUGE!! Computers so huge that they produced enough heat to heat up the whole building (saves on costs of having to use a furnace for heating at least!) and computers literally got bugs in them!
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I dunno,... might have to challenge that. I always viewed them as the transition of Titans -> Gods -> Demi-Gods,... after a while, it just gets pointless to manifest oneself as being physically large, especially as the "smaller" OS-tan world gains in size and relevance and self-sufficiency. That's why, in my future "romp" of the OS-tan world, my beloved giant Mainframe-tans are all but extinct.
I see... As being giant gets to be less and less practical, the mainframe-tans gradually downsize themselves more and more. When you say the giant mainframe-tans are all but extinct, did they all die off or downsize themselves to human size?
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While I do agree that they would not have thought themselves as goddesses, that would have been the impression once mini and micro personal computers started showing up.
I can imagine what it would have been like from the perspective of a mainframe-tan: "Oh no! A bunch of mini and micro computer-tans have shown up, enough to outnumber us mainframes who were here first, darnit! We're losing our prestige! We don't stand out as much as we used to!"
"I've got it! Let's supersize ourselves! We're bigger and better!"
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To use a more contemporary example, neither ME-tan nor XP-tan think of themselves as goddesses (except perhaps beauty-wise?), since they power the kind of personal computers that 99% of the world uses. However, they do realize that they are MUCH larger and MUCH more powerful than CE-tan, which still runs on only a smattering of personal electronic devices.
But CE-tan appears as a goddess compared to the Damn Small-tans!
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However, the way the computer world is evolving, it wouldn't be long before the likes of CE-chan or Palm-chan or Symbian-chan or all matter of embedded Linux-tans take over the title of the world's majority population. In this scenario, these cute little lilliputians become the new "normal", and the likes of ME-tan and XP-tan would find themselves as the new titans.
A titan ME-tan and XP-tan sound really scary in a world dominated by the tiny! ME-tan could easily trip over them and XP-tan (and FreeBSD-tan!) could easily eat them! 0__0
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But then again, it is a moot point, as the size difference among Guild members is almost purely artificial. In fairness, it might not have been a "fad" to appear that large until AFTER the micro/mini computers started appearing, when it was important to drill the fact into the newcomer's heads that they were bigger and better. ^^;
Even z/OS-sama's height is artificial despite being born a mainframe goddess?
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Correction,... a GIANT unstable nut-case. ^.^
*coos with delight and hugs TSS/360-tan's leg*
*SLAP*
*gets swatted and squashed like a mosquito*
Hey! Just a moment ago, you were latched on to AtariTOS-tan! Unless... you really did detach from her!
QuoteYep, just checked... MenuetOS-tan is in the CIOST roster. ^.^
And from the sound of it, another excellent fighter to assist VMS-sama. Not a friend per se, but loyal and to-the-point.
Okay, that works! I've also decided what lightweight, futuristic weapon she should wield: a ray-gun! Not the most original choice but it works! (unless someone can think of something more original and suitable for her)
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Actually, I was bouncing back and forth the idea of conceiving an AtheOS-tan way back then. Eventually I chose against it for reasonx XYZ, but here she appears once more. ^.^
Probably would opt to make her Syllable-tan's older sister.
Poor AtheOS-tan, she got abandoned in favor of her younger sister! Now I wonder how well or poorly they would have gotten along before AtheOS-tan's abandonment.
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Maybe she's not a full fangirl, but probably a strong admirer of Amiga-san, who perhaps at one point of her life helped her in a time of need (and thus AtheOS-tan has felt grateful ever since). Not to say DragonFlyBSD-chan wouldn't hold your suspicions, though. ^^;
And that would make a great and heart-warming story!
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Aww,... sorry about keeping her on the Deceased list.... ;___;
Now that you mention it, she kinda sorta sounds like the Sun version of Apple I-san. That would kinda make Solaris-sama akin to a Lisa-chan then, and might also explain a bit of her own internal bitterness she feels. Given the coldness of the Unices of that era, I doubt any of them offered themselves as a substitute "older sister" for Solaris-sama. ^^
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Aa sou, I [we?] stand corrected. ^^
Okay, so perhaps the parallel is more like Lisa-chan and Mac 1.0-chan, had 1.0-chan been taken away. While Lisa-tan might have treated 1.0-chan badly, I have no doubt she would have been devastated if she had "won", and managed to accidentally get rid of her younger sister. '__'
I never considered such parallels, and both with Lisa-tan!
Based on a compromise of Solaris-san's parallels with Lisa-tan, Solaris-san started to experience internal bitterness after the death of her younger sister who taught her so much in the little time she knew her and none of the Unices of that era were cold-natured and not very supportive. She was also afraid that she herself ended up getting rid of her :(
And Lisa-tan would have been devastated if she won against System 1-tan (and got rid of her) despite being mean to her? Is that some serious guilt or did Lisa-tan really care for her younger sister but never showed it because of her preoccupation with years of bottled up mental trauma and negative emotions?
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Oooh,... the name sounds familiar,...
....
AH YES, I remember where we saw that last! ^___^
http://www.blinkenlights.com/pc.shtml
Yes! That is the site where I first heard of the GENIAC! Also on that list was the Paperclip Computer which I considered making a personification of as either a crudely-built android or a Frankenstein-type character... Or put in a "Six Million Dollar Man" parody! :D
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For some reason, I envision her as being rather puppet-like -- although not made out of wood, she can't move or function without having someone (such as a caretaker) hold her handle. She'd be a kind of anti-Pinocchio -- she's a real girl and a smart one at that, but sadly is bound by strings forever.
I like that! That is an even better reference to her requirements of a caretaker and parallel to GENIAC not being completely automatic!
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I can even think up some sap in that regards. She might have been very famous in her day, but after her caretaker outgrew her for newer more advanced systems, she was left in an attic motionless and forgotten for many decades.
That... is so sad! *sniffle*
I think that her abandonment would have been in 1960 as the last GENIAC variant was released in 1959 and there were some much more advanced-looking personal computers released in the early 1960's.
I also must remark... Bah! Her original caretaker didn't know the concept of "low end computing" and still being able to use computers even well past their obsolescence!
(but then again, I don't know of anyone who did that before the Mac users who are well-known for using their computers as long as possible!)
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The one day some young vintage-tans, searching for spare parts in the antic, discover her and nearly fall back in fright as she comes to life the moment someone holds her handle.
So she never really was deceased! Because of that, she might be the second oldest-living OS-tan character!
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GENIAC-san would be happy and cheery at first, but quickly grows sad and frightened as she realizes almost 50 years have passed and the world and friends she once knew are long gone.
It's a very bittersweet moment. Glad to be 'alive' again but soon realizes she lives in a whole 'nother world full of complete strangers :(
At least EXEC-sama could help her out...
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Moreover, she develops a terrible fear of going back to "sleep", as she dreads the thought of waking up another several decades later.
Oh my gosh... :(
QuoteIt's hard at first for the Vintage-tans to "pass her around", trying to help her get used to the modern world while still trying to live out their own lives --
I hope no one has tried fighting over her...
Quotein a way it ends up yielding mixed results, as GENIAC-san ends up feeling like an old, tired dog on a leash. Fortunately EXEC-sama, who already feels like she contributes little, gladly volunteers to be GENIAC-chan's caretaker.
Perfect!
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Her infinite patience and motherly demeanor help the younger-minded GENIAC -- but the fact that EXEC-sama is actually OLDER is also valuable as she's able to talk to the GENIAC-chan using words, imagery and memories that the two can relate to. Over time the two become great friends -- and while there is still some work to be done to calm GENIAC-chan's phobias, at least now she's more comfortable in her interactions with the newer girls.
EXEC-sama is the perfect caretaker for GENIAC-tan, for EXEC-sama has lived in the same world GENIAC-tan had known and also the friends she had too are long gone. Also perfect is that EXEC-sama does not show any mental scars or trauma so she could be able to calm her down!
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Certainly she feels eager to spend time chatting with other fellow "geniuses" (=C64-tan), even if she usually ends up offering more obstructive questions than constructive answers. ^^;
"Oooh! What does this button do?"
"AAAAAAH! Don't press that!"
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OOOH!!! OOOH!!! OOOH!!!
I want MA HUMMINGBIRD GIRL.... NOW!!!!!!!! ^V^
*sigh* Drawing her may be very challenging but I shall put it on my current queue of OS-tan drawings (in no particular order):
-Finish 1989 Apple family picture
-Chibi IMSAI 8080-tan
-Revised GS/OS-tan
-Revised Festering Hate-tan
-Preconcept sketch of nVIR-tan
-4K-tan + OS/2-tan Star Trek ride picture
-Finalized MenuetOS-tan chibi
-Finalized GENIAC-tan chibi
-GENIAC-tan historical portraiture with her original caretakers (and maybe even a portraiture of her in present day with EXEC-sama)
-Preconcept KolibriOS-tan
QuoteWOW!!! So now we have that famous system that starred in Wargames working alongside VMS-sama!! By GAWD, she has an all-star cast lined up already! @v@
The CIOST gets increasingly awesone!
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But she's still short. T__T
I mean, that's.... baaaaaaaaaaaaaarely,... DR-DOS-sama's height. T____T'
But then so is UNIX-sama, and you see what a tough cookie she is. ^^;
.....
Uh-oh, did I just say "cookie". ^____^;
*here's sound of long-range missile, holding a boot for a warhead, propelling towards him*
I've seen flying books, bookshelves knocked on to people and of course whacking people with her metal staff but never before have I seen boot missles in UNIX's arsenal! :D
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Oooh,... keeping the CIOST members well-connected is NOT an easy task,... the girl's got guts to be able to take that upon herself. ^^
Someone's gotta do the task, but yes she is very brave indeed!
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Her military experience probably also helps, from time to time, with the planning of strategies. Between her tacit experience in the field, VMS-sama's resourcefulness, BeOS-san's intelligence, TRON-sama's unbreakable intelligence network, and GECOS-sama's ruthless pragmatism, you already have an idea of the kind of strategic genius behind the CIOST's survival all these years.
With such brilliant characters in the CIOST, it is such a shame that their faction as a whole is fragmented and uninspiring :(
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Well that's true, but as a consumer unit I do imagine there has to be one or two out there at least.
To expand upon her previous sap story, supposing there were once hundreds of GENIAC-tan's, and she's literally the last surviving one. Only she/they wouldn't know it, and so the search for her other sisters is a kind of side-project they engage in. Though it likely won't yield the desired results, who knows what other mysteries and discoveries they come across in their searches.
I'm curious as to how their search ends! But poor GENIAC-tan is going to be devastated finding out she is the last of her kind :(
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MenuetOS-tan preconcept:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_MenuetOStanpreconcept.jpg)
She has dark red hair, blue eyes, wears a metallic blue bodysuit under a long silver gown held up to knee length by garters so she can run without ripping her dress. She carries around a giant Swiss Army Knife that contains most of the tools she uses.
For her revised personality; MenuetOS-tan is fast, loyal, straightforward, to-the-point and is very resourceful although also fussy and with limited hardware support. She is also a strong pro-Assembly language advocate... And I think she'd be great at assembling things! She is still for the most part a loner and works by herself at her machine shop.
And height-wise, I imagine her being moderately tall at about 5'8" (~173 cm)
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And here is the GENIAC-tan preconcept:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_GENIACtanpreconcept.jpg)
Yeah, she's very short. I though that 3'3" (100 cm) seemed about right.
As you readers of this thread know, the OS-tans of the 1960's-1980's wear or wore mostly Victorian-era outfits but GENIAC-tan's predates that!
Her dress and bonnet (except for the holes in it!) are in the style of what young girls wore from the 1790's-1820's (the time period that is the predecessor to the Victorian era). However the blazer she wears was just to give her more of an academic look or could even have been given to her by one of the Vintage-tans when she joined them!
And I really did consider using the alternative design depicted at the bottom of the picture! XD
Hi Aurora-hime. ^_____^
Le sigh,... Bella-hime's gone, I'm so depressed.... -.-
Le siiiiiiiiiiigh....
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Well,... as far as these particular story arcs go, guess it's just you and me then. Kinda like old times. ^^
I'll actually put completion of the Xmas Special as priority now, as I really do honestly want to finish that. Only problem is that I don't remember how we drafted up the Fark panel, so hopefully you'll give me something to jog my memory. I do remember it had to do with TotalFark-tan reaking havoc, but that's like saying that pigs eat alot. ^___^'
In the meantime, one last epic response before I whip myself back to work. ^^'
QuoteThat is freaking HUGE!! Computers so huge that they produced enough heat to heat up the whole building (saves on costs of having to use a furnace for heating at least!) and computers literally got bugs in them!
Awesome blossom! You know that oft-overlooked little factoid. ^.^
QuoteI can imagine what it would have been like from the perspective of a mainframe-tan: "Oh no! A bunch of mini and micro computer-tans have shown up, enough to outnumber us mainframes who were here first, darnit! We're losing our prestige! We don't stand out as much as we used to!"
"I've got it! Let's supersize ourselves! We're bigger and better!"
Correct. I think that explanation strikes the best balance,... and certainly helps avoid the paradox of having very OLD systems like UNIX-sama and EXEC-sama appear normal-sized (relatively speaking) whereas other systems of similar age are gigantic. More than likely the decision to do this was purely selective -- and perhaps is one of the most well-guarded secrets of the Mainframe Guild.
Only in recent years has the dreaded "Beowulf Cluster" spell threatened their size hegemony. ^^
QuoteBut CE-tan appears as a goddess compared to the Damn Small-tans!
Fufufu.... It's not everyday that a 6 inch girl can pass for a 60 foot one (although we agreed she's about 12 inches, no?). ^.^'
Let's just hope it never gets to her head. ^^;
QuoteA titan ME-tan and XP-tan sound really scary in a world dominated by the tiny! ME-tan could easily trip over them and XP-tan (and FreeBSD-tan!) could easily eat them! 0__0
Ah good,.. more poker buddies for when I get accidentally eaten by FreeB-chan. ^^;
QuoteEven z/OS-sama's height is artificial despite being born a mainframe goddess?
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,... do you want to get squished?!
It's a closely guarded secret, and no one DARES to tell her that.
>___>
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<___<
....
[whispering]
She was only born into the Guild, but she wasn't born a goddess -- rather she was macros-sized soon after so she couldn't tell the difference. Even though she's well over a head taller than even Barbie Linux-tan micro-sized, for her to shrink is as embarrassing to her as it is for most anime heroines to be caught naked in some hot spring. She just can't stand it -- and besides, she's also worried about her Daemons too. ^^;
QuoteHey! Just a moment ago, you were latched on to AtariTOS-tan! Unless... you really did detach from her!
Also just a moment ago, I blended, electrocuted and blew myself up, and wound up reincarnated as a slug. ^_______^'
Don't let little forum plot-holes get to you. ^.^;
QuoteOkay, that works! I've also decided what lightweight, futuristic weapon she should wield: a ray-gun! Not the most original choice but it works! (unless someone can think of something more original and suitable for her)
Yeah, Ray Gun is like soooooooooooooo 1960's. ^.^
Try something as cool, slick and dashing as her name,...
Like,....
A Meson Gun! ^v^
Sorry, just reliving my old Wing Commander days. ^___^
Here's the scientific explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meson
And here's something more relevant for us.... ^.^
http://www.orionsarm.com/eg/m/Me-Mh.html#meson_gun
But basically it's just a fancier type of Ray Gun, like a Neutron Gun or a Proton Torpedo or a Tachyon Beam.
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Poor AtheOS-tan, she got abandoned in favor of her younger sister! Now I wonder how well or poorly they would have gotten along before AtheOS-tan's abandonment.
Well if she admires Amiga-sama, surely she shares the same forgive-and-forget attitude. especially if it's her own sister. ^^
QuoteBased on a compromise of Solaris-san's parallels with Lisa-tan, Solaris-san started to experience internal bitterness after the death of her younger sister who taught her so much in the little time she knew her and none of the Unices of that era were cold-natured and not very supportive. She was also afraid that she herself ended up getting rid of her
That's a good way to expand upon the point. ^^
You can actually make the case that her cheerier "SunOS" years were those spent with SpringOS-san, while her "Solaris"-era form represents her bitter and resentful form.
QuoteAnd Lisa-tan would have been devastated if she won against System 1-tan (and got rid of her) despite being mean to her? Is that some serious guilt or did Lisa-tan really care for her younger sister but never showed it because of her preoccupation with years of bottled up mental trauma and negative emotions?
While I'm just basing off the assumption that no bond is stronger than blood. Especially in the case of Lisa-chan, her emotions have always been a wild mess -- she hated and resented her sisters' popularity, but at the same time loved them and struggled to express it in some way that wouldn't betray her own resentment. That too helped in the eventual "switching off" of her brain, having been overloaded with too many painful and repressed emotions.
QuoteI like that! That is an even better reference to her requirements of a caretaker and parallel to GENIAC not being completely automatic!
Fufu,.. i only expanded on your ideas. ^^
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(but then again, I don't know of anyone who did that before the Mac users who are well-known for using their computers as long as possible!)
Being a glorified circuit board, I can't see her as having much lasting value, even to hobbyists at the time. -.-'
QuoteSo she never really was deceased! Because of that, she might be the second oldest-living OS-tan character!
Well I suppose it's all a matter of perception -- given her puppet-like status, the case could be made that she never was "living" to begin with, or even an OS-tan. That being the case, you can probably say she was simply "revived" (or "reanimated").
So far, she qualifies as second-oldest,... although given how old she looks/thinks, it's probably not a title she'd be comfortable with. She didn't exactly ask to be an old granny. ^^;
QuoteIt's a very bittersweet moment. Glad to be 'alive' again but soon realizes she lives in a whole 'nother world full of complete strangers
I would say its akin to waking from a coma.
However, while thinking of GENIAC-chan's story, I was actually more-or-less aiming for a much sadder and darker version of Jessie's backstory from Toy Story 2. She longs for companionship again, but has grown distrusful and claustrophobic from her experience.
QuoteEXEC-sama is the perfect caretaker for GENIAC-tan, for EXEC-sama has lived in the same world GENIAC-tan had known and also the friends she had too are long gone. Also perfect is that EXEC-sama does not show any mental scars or trauma so she could be able to calm her down!
Correct on all accounts! ^^
I wanted EXEC-sama especially for the role because, at least from the present day timeline, she still feels like a useless burden to the Binteji Renmei. Her hair takes up too much space (and time to groom), she's too old and slow to handle even the most basic tasks, and despite her great age and wisdom, her intelligence PALES in comparison to that of UNIX-sama or GECOS-sama and the like.
Taking care of GENIAC-chan is perfect, as all she has to do is literally hold her handle and keep her company.
Since she's the best at this, and is able to help GENIAC-chan heal faster,... you can almost say GENIAC-chan offers EXEC-sama her "Raison d'Etre". Fast forward a few years into the future, and I think both of them (assuming they're still alive) will have mutually benefited from the companionship.
Quote*sigh* Drawing her may be very challenging but I shall put it on my current queue of OS-tan drawings (in no particular order):
oh no no, I was just kidding. I don't do requests anymore (Golden Rule and all), so by all means take your time, if you want to even draw her at all. ^.^
QuoteI'm curious as to how their search ends! But poor GENIAC-tan is going to be devastated finding out she is the last of her kind
She may not necessarily have to know that. I imagine that over time, after she's grown used to the company of the vintage-tans, and even comes to love and care for them,... she'll probably concede the search on her own. Rather than force her new friends to dwell in her old past, she'll probably opt to work hard to bring them a better future.
Course, that's not to say someone like ZX-chan will continue the search anyway, and uncover the unpleasant truth. But maybe she won't tell GENIAC-chan at all -- or maybe she will, and GENIAC-chan will take it as calm closure to her old life. It's not like she's the only "last anything" -- many a good vintage-tan represents the last fading memory of a once powerful fad, family, or faction.
QuoteShe has dark red hair, blue eyes, wears a metallic blue bodysuit under a long silver gown held up to knee length by garters so she can run without ripping her dress. She carries around a giant Swiss Army Knife that contains most of the tools she uses.
For her revised personality; MenuetOS-tan is fast, loyal, straightforward, to-the-point and is very resourceful although also fussy and with limited hardware support. She is also a strong pro-Assembly language advocate... And I think she'd be great at assembling things! She is still for the most part a loner and works by herself at her machine shop.
And height-wise, I imagine her being moderately tall at about 5'8" (~173 cm)
Oooh,.. she reminds me of a kick-ass version of Meiko from Marmalade Boy. I love Meiko, hence I'll love Menu-chan! ^_____^
Love the aspect of the giant Swiss Army Knife -- probably looks comical in principle, but anyone who sees her whip a whole LIGHT SABRE out of it will surely think otherwise! ^v^
I would imagine that she and TRON-sama would be good partners, since Menu-chan can clearly build many of the industrial machines that may be too gritty for TRON-chan to work on comfortably. Although since BOTH are loners, no one would probably even notice. ^.^;
QuoteYeah, she's very short. I though that 3'3" (100 cm) seemed about right.
As you readers of this thread know, the OS-tans of the 1960's-1980's wear or wore mostly Victorian-era outfits but GENIAC-tan's predates that!
Her dress and bonnet (except for the holes in it!) are in the style of what young girls wore from the 1790's-1820's (the time period that is the predecessor to the Victorian era). However the blazer she wears was just to give her more of an academic look or could even have been given to her by one of the Vintage-tans when she joined them!
And I really did consider using the alternative design depicted at the bottom of the picture! XD
SUGOINESS!!! ^V^
Wow, the girl's got KEWT to spare! ^___^
She reminds me a bit of Hinaichigo and in a way its appropiate given her personality. Nice job on the historical accuracy of our crazy timeline, and in the perforated bonnet -- that's a very cool and original touch. ^.^
Despite her extreme shortness, she's actually not the shortest Vintage-tan. I believe QDOS-chan still holds that title at 92cm. ^___^'
Not really feeling the alternative design, though,...... unless perhaps if she dresses like that when she helps,... *cough cough cough* bugs *cough cough*.... C64-tan. ^__^
Quote from: "C-Chan"Hi Aurora-hime. ^_____^
Le sigh,... Bella-hime's gone, I'm so depressed.... -.-
Le siiiiiiiiiiigh....
*joins in sighing*
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Well,... as far as these particular story arcs go, guess it's just you and me then. Kinda like old times. ^^
Like old times, back from 2006!
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I'll actually put completion of the Xmas Special as priority now, as I really do honestly want to finish that. Only problem is that I don't remember how we drafted up the Fark panel, so hopefully you'll give me something to jog my memory. I do remember it had to do with TotalFark-tan reaking havoc, but that's like saying that pigs eat alot. ^___^'
Digging through my PM inbox, I found it!: Mugshot-tan (who I need to draw a slightly updated version of. Another character that I made but totally neglected! Shame on me!) is holding up an alarm clock for a present but is crying a waterfall of tears as she overslept and missed the appointment to be one of the helpers that year which was why Red Hat-tan asked the virus-tans for help.
Foobies-tan appears holding up a bikini top (or have it placed on her head!) shouting "FOOBIES!" and Total Fark-tan appears offering a giant jar of mustard and is also curiously looking around (and coating everything she touched in mustard)
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Correct. I think that explanation strikes the best balance,... and certainly helps avoid the paradox of having very OLD systems like UNIX-sama and EXEC-sama appear normal-sized (relatively speaking) whereas other systems of similar age are gigantic. More than likely the decision to do this was purely selective -- and perhaps is one of the most well-guarded secrets of the Mainframe Guild.
Wow that was easy! Paradox averted!
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Only in recent years has the dreaded "Beowulf Cluster" spell threatened their size hegemony. ^^
Now what would Beowulf Cluster-tans be like? Would they be "Beowulf"-inspired as well as giant?
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Fufufu.... It's not everyday that a 6 inch girl can pass for a 60 foot one (although we agreed she's about 12 inches, no?). ^.^'
Let's just hope it never gets to her head. ^^;
We agreed on 12 inches for CE-tan's height.
Still don't want CE-tan passing herself off as a giant to the Damn Smalls to get to her head, but their tiny size helped made CE-tan feel more significant about herself!
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Ah good,.. more poker buddies for when I get accidentally eaten by FreeB-chan. ^^;
How about you try to prevent getting eaten again? ;)
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[whispering] She was only born into the Guild, but she wasn't born a goddess -- rather she was macros-sized soon after so she couldn't tell the difference. Even though she's well over a head taller than even Barbie Linux-tan micro-sized, for her to shrink is as embarrassing to her as it is for most anime heroines to be caught naked in some hot spring. She just can't stand it -- and besides, she's also worried about her Daemons too. ^^;
Oh... Didn't know she hated microsizing that much! But what does she do when she wants to go out in public (if she ever does)? 0__0
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Yeah, Ray Gun is like soooooooooooooo 1960's. ^.^
Try something as cool, slick and dashing as her name,...
Like,....
A Meson Gun! ^v^
Sorry, just reliving my old Wing Commander days. ^___^
Here's the scientific explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meson
And here's something more relevant for us.... ^.^
http://www.orionsarm.com/eg/m/Me-Mh.html#meson_gun
But basically it's just a fancier type of Ray Gun, like a Neutron Gun or a Proton Torpedo or a Tachyon Beam.
Neat! It's like a more advanced ray gun. I approve!
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Well if she admires Amiga-sama, surely she shares the same forgive-and-forget attitude. especially if it's her own sister. ^^
That sounds right!
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That's a good way to expand upon the point. ^^
You can actually make the case that her cheerier "SunOS" years were those spent with SpringOS-san, while her "Solaris"-era form represents her bitter and resentful form.
Mostly agree, although Solaris-tan/SunOS-tan would have only known SpringOS-tan for only a few years. Incidentally, was it around the time SpringOS got canceled (mid 1990's) that SunOS was renamed Solaris?
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While I'm just basing off the assumption that no bond is stronger than blood. Especially in the case of Lisa-chan, her emotions have always been a wild mess -- she hated and resented her sisters' popularity, but at the same time loved them and struggled to express it in some way that wouldn't betray her own resentment. That too helped in the eventual "switching off" of her brain, having been overloaded with too many painful and repressed emotions.
Yeah, that was another huge conflicting emotional overload. Or more like the years of bottled up negative emotions were the overload, and Lisa-tan's conflicting love/hate towards her sisters was just overkill....
But oh my gosh, Lisa-tan really did care even though she could never express it!
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Well I suppose it's all a matter of perception -- given her puppet-like status, the case could be made that she never was "living" to begin with, or even an OS-tan. That being the case, you can probably say she was simply "revived" (or "reanimated").
Hmm... I didn't consider that (silly, scatterbrained ol' me! >__<) but it does suit her better (because if she really were dead, a necromancer would have been required to bring her back). I thought there were only the living, the dead and the undead! ^^;
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Correct on all accounts! ^^
I wanted EXEC-sama especially for the role because, at least from the present day timeline, she still feels like a useless burden to the Binteji Renmei. Her hair takes up too much space (and time to groom), she's too old and slow to handle even the most basic tasks, and despite her great age and wisdom, her intelligence PALES in comparison to that of UNIX-sama or GECOS-sama and the like.
Taking care of GENIAC-chan is perfect, as all she has to do is literally hold her handle and keep her company.
Since she's the best at this, and is able to help GENIAC-chan heal faster,... you can almost say GENIAC-chan offers EXEC-sama her "Raison d'Etre". Fast forward a few years into the future, and I think both of them (assuming they're still alive) will have mutually benefited from the companionship.
Perfectly said! Those two are perfect friends for each other! ;019
(although it is sad that they both might not have longer than a few years to live though)
QuoteQuoteI'm curious as to how their search ends! But poor GENIAC-tan is going to be devastated finding out she is the last of her kind
She may not necessarily have to know that. I imagine that over time, after she's grown used to the company of the vintage-tans, and even comes to love and care for them,... she'll probably concede the search on her own. Rather than force her new friends to dwell in her old past, she'll probably opt to work hard to bring them a better future.
I understand, she wouldn't want to subject her new (err... vintage) friends to a long search with potentially depressing results!
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Course, that's not to say someone like ZX-chan will continue the search anyway, and uncover the unpleasant truth. But maybe she won't tell GENIAC-chan at all -- or maybe she will, and GENIAC-chan will take it as calm closure to her old life. It's not like she's the only "last anything" -- many a good vintage-tan represents the last fading memory of a once powerful fad, family, or faction.
ZX-chan sure is curious, determined and really interested in history enough to try and continue the search, isn't she? ;012
But now that you mentioned it, maybe GENIAC-chan won't take the truth so hard after all and would take it as calm closure to her old life. And being the last of her kind makes her one of a kind and more special than she was in the past and she would be better able to empathize with those who are the last of a fad, family or faction!
I at first thought that GENIAC-chan finding out she was the last of her kind would have been very devestating, akin to when Ang from "Avatar the Last Airbender" found out he was the last airbender after being gone for 100 years!
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Oooh,.. she reminds me of a kick-ass version of Meiko from Marmalade Boy. I love Meiko, hence I'll love Menu-chan! ^_____^
Love the aspect of the giant Swiss Army Knife -- probably looks comical in principle, but anyone who sees her whip a whole LIGHT SABRE out of it will surely think otherwise! ^v^
Ha ha ha! I can imagine it now!
some malicious hacker person or something: *pulls out hacking equipment* What are you going to do about it?
MenuetOS-tan: *brings out her Swiss Army Knife*
some malicious person: A giant Swiss Army Knife?! Hahahahaha!
*MenuetOS-tan whips out light saber from it*
some malicious person: OH SHI-- *runs away*
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I would imagine that she and TRON-sama would be good partners, since Menu-chan can clearly build many of the industrial machines that may be too gritty for TRON-chan to work on comfortably. Although since BOTH are loners, no one would probably even notice. ^.^;
Good call! Those two could make a mighty good machine-building team together! (although it's a shame no one would notice)
That makes MenuetOS-tan another fine addition to the CIOST!
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SUGOINESS!!! ^V^
Wow, the girl's got KEWT to spare! ^___^
She reminds me a bit of Hinaichigo and in a way its appropiate given her personality. Nice job on the historical accuracy of our crazy timeline, and in the perforated bonnet -- that's a very cool and original touch. ^.^
Thanks! I'm glad I went with that first design because it really does suit her better and for the historical parallels! (her generation was the predecessor to the very stuffy generation of the 1960's!, just like how the 1790's-1820's was the predecessor of the Victorian era notorious for stuffy behavior and dress codes! Even though the extents of their behavior, rules and dress codes were exaggerated somewhat by modern scholars...)
BTW, would EXEC-sama wear something even more old-fashioned than GENIAC-chan?
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Despite her extreme shortness, she's actually not the shortest Vintage-tan. I believe QDOS-chan still holds that title at 92cm. ^___^'
Yeah, you're right.
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Not really feeling the alternative design, though,...... unless perhaps if she dresses like that when she helps,... *cough cough cough* bugs *cough cough*.... C64-tan. ^__^
Hahahaha! That's a good way to put the alternative design to use! (although, I wonder what Vintage-tan would have convinced her to wear such outfit!) :D
Oooh sorry,... drawing now... can't write my standard-issue long responses just yet. ^____^'
But let me just answer some quick questions:
QuoteNow what would Beowulf Cluster-tans be like? Would they be "Beowulf"-inspired as well as giant?
Haven't really given much though about Beowulf Clusters really, only that the actual Beowulf Cluster spell requires casting from several OS-tans versed in the highest levels of Open Sorcery. Not really sure if they create a "virtual giantess", or morph into a giant single entity that's a composite of all of them (kinda like how you drew your own OS-tan chimeras).
I do know that the number of OS-tans casting the chain spell directly affects the size of the resulting giantess, but is also dependent on the casters' body mass and spell level -- so if only 10 OS-tans of equal processing power and moderate height/weight cast it, they may only become something like 6 meters tall (easily squashable or at least puntable by zOS-sama).
And as for Beowulf inspiration... why not? ^___^
QuoteHow about you try to prevent getting eaten again?
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Soooo,... how's the weather around your parts? ^^:
QuoteOh... Didn't know she hated microsizing that much! But what does she do when she wants to go out in public (if she ever does)? 0__0
She doesn't. ^^
Or if she ABSOLUTELY has to, she just appears as is -- causing the kind of havoc that would make even Godzilla look time. ^^;
QuoteMostly agree, although Solaris-tan/SunOS-tan would have only known SpringOS-tan for only a few years. Incidentally, was it around the time SpringOS got canceled (mid 1990's) that SunOS was renamed Solaris?
Well actually no,... SpringOS was still active during and after the renaming, according to Wiki. But perhaps SunOS was isolated from her in order to undergo the remergence as Solaris, and that was something she may have always resented (and more so after SpringOS died).
QuoteYeah, that was another huge conflicting emotional overload. Or more like the years of bottled up negative emotions were the overload, and Lisa-tan's conflicting love/hate towards her sisters was just overkill....
But oh my gosh, Lisa-tan really did care even though she could never express it!
Shouldn't be too hard to believe. Last I heard, System 6-san is in the same boat. ^^
QuoteZX-chan sure is curious, determined and really interested in history enough to try and continue the search, isn't she?
Even though I haven't drawn her in ages, I want to continue to paint ZX-chan as a very rich and deep character -- who, despite her age, is still able to carry out and compile vast amounts of research, all written in an eloquent 19th century-style writing. You know, the kind that makes something even as mundane as a field analysis of fruit fly feeding patterns a joy to read. ^.^
Here's more that kinda/sorta touches on what I'm talking about:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE7DE1539F934A1575AC0A961948260&sec=technology&spon=&pagewanted=all
QuoteBut now that you mentioned it, maybe GENIAC-chan won't take the truth so hard after all and would take it as calm closure to her old life. And being the last of her kind makes her one of a kind and more special than she was in the past and she would be better able to empathize with those who are the last of a fad, family or faction!
I at first thought that GENIAC-chan finding out she was the last of her kind would have been very devestating, akin to when Ang from "Avatar the Last Airbender" found out he was the last airbender after being gone for 100 years!
Well it would be if she found that out immediately, as in "Hi! Welcome back, Rip Van Winkle-ette. And oh yeah, your whole family's dead. Sorry."
But I'm aiming that she'll spend many months/years with the vintage-tans, getting to know them, have fun with them, and start to rebuild her life with some tacit understanding of modern concepts. In a sense, she would mature, and in so doing lose a lot of her old childlike fears. The kind acceptance of EXEC-sama probably would have inspired her too.
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BTW, would EXEC-sama wear something even more old-fashioned than GENIAC-chan?
Well, you basically answered your own question. Fufu... ^____________^
Don't forget that EXEC-sama's defining trait is her RIDICULOUSLY long hair. I'm aiming for a length of about 10 meters or so -- but while it's very wide and fluffy from her head down to her feet, it generally trails behind as one gigantic ponytail. And of course, haircuts are deadly -- especially since extensions for her hair type haven't been manufactured in over 40 years. @.@;
QuoteHahahaha! That's a good way to put the alternative design to use! (although, I wonder what Vintage-tan would have convinced her to wear such outfit!)
Well,... it DOES have a VERY... canny.... resemblance.... to... what ZX-chan wears,... minus the hat. ^^;
*Peeks in, again*
I was wondering if an Oralux (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=oralux)-tan would be blind or more of a seeing-eye dog (chicken) sort of person.
I have plans for ONE blind OS-tan (TPF-san), but can't see why we can't have another one.
I'm thinking of a compromise situation: she's blind, but also carries around a cute seeing-eye chicken. ^__^
Quote from: "C-Chan"
Haven't really given much though about Beowulf Clusters really, only that the actual Beowulf Cluster spell requires casting from several OS-tans versed in the highest levels of Open Sorcery. Not really sure if they create a "virtual giantess", or morph into a giant single entity that's a composite of all of them (kinda like how you drew your own OS-tan chimeras).
Giant chimeras!
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I do know that the number of OS-tans casting the chain spell directly affects the size of the resulting giantess, but is also dependent on the casters' body mass and spell level -- so if only 10 OS-tans of equal processing power and moderate height/weight cast it, they may only become something like 6 meters tall (easily squashable or at least puntable by zOS-sama).
Oh. Still, even a 6 meter-tall Beowulf cluster-tan is more than a match for almost everyone. Although I was kinda hoping a Beowulf cluster-tan would be able to put up a decent fight against mainframe-tan (if a situation ever called for it).
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Soooo,... how's the weather around your parts? ^^:
Just fine! Currently partly cloudy, high in the 80's although my area is prone to thunderstorms in the summer as well and it gets very cold in the winter and the weather is just plain out of whack in the springtime.
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She doesn't. ^^
Or if she ABSOLUTELY has to, she just appears as is -- causing the kind of havoc that would make even Godzilla look time. ^^;
Holy craaaaaap!
"There's a giant on the loose!"
"EVERYBODY PANIC!!"
"Who will save the children?!"
"Forget the children, RUN FOR YOUR FREAKING LIVES BEFORE SHE SQUASHES YOU LIKE A BUG!"
'AAAaAAAAAh!"
(everyone seen running and screaming)
z/OS: Puny humans, I'm just trying to go shopping! Be nice or I will purposely destroy the town! MUAHAHAHAhA!
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Well actually no,... SpringOS was still active during and after the renaming, according to Wiki. But perhaps SunOS was isolated from her in order to undergo the remergence as Solaris, and that was something she may have always resented (and more so after SpringOS died).
Did SunOS-tan choose to have her identity change? But she does regret and resent it because she wasn't able to spend as much time with SpringOS-tan since then.
QuoteQuoteYeah, that was another huge conflicting emotional overload. Or more like the years of bottled up negative emotions were the overload, and Lisa-tan's conflicting love/hate towards her sisters was just overkill....
But oh my gosh, Lisa-tan really did care even though she could never express it!
Shouldn't be too hard to believe. Last I heard, System 6-san is in the same boat. ^^
True, although to a much lesser extent. Still needs to confess though ¬__¬
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No, I'm not going to make the same mistake twice.
*crawls back into ditch*
QuoteEven though I haven't drawn her in ages, I want to continue to paint ZX-chan as a very rich and deep character -- who, despite her age, is still able to carry out and compile vast amounts of research, all written in an eloquent 19th century-style writing. You know, the kind that makes something even as mundane as a field analysis of fruit fly feeding patterns a joy to read. ^.^
She is such a great character! It's a shame I haven't drawn any fanart of her yet! However, she will be an important character in my second OS-tan flashback story! (darn, I still need to finish the first one though >__<)
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Well it would be if she found that out immediately, as in "Hi! Welcome back, Rip Van Winkle-ette. And oh yeah, your whole family's dead. Sorry."
But I'm aiming that she'll spend many months/years with the vintage-tans, getting to know them, have fun with them, and start to rebuild her life with some tacit understanding of modern concepts. In a sense, she would mature, and in so doing lose a lot of her old childlike fears. The kind acceptance of EXEC-sama probably would have inspired her too.
That latter scenario is so much better, happier and simply makes a great story of GENIAC-chan overcoming her fears of isolation and being in a time period so different from her own and how EXEC-sama learns to feel useful again and how they benefit from their friendship with each other! So much better! ;010
The former scenario would be just awful and bleak :(
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Well, you basically answered your own question. Fufu... ^____________^
Don't forget that EXEC-sama's defining trait is her RIDICULOUSLY long hair. I'm aiming for a length of about 10 meters or so -- but while it's very wide and fluffy from her head down to her feet, it generally trails behind as one gigantic ponytail. And of course, haircuts are deadly -- especially since extensions for her hair type haven't been manufactured in over 40 years. @.@;
Okay, I have a general idea for how she should look: 10 meter-long hair in ponytail, really old-fashioned outfit (Renaissance-era, maybe? Or maybe 18th century-style because of the really crazy, complex, several-layered dresses that the upper class wore back then!) although I have no idea for the color scheme though.
It has also been mentioned that haircuts are highly painful to her. Can't she just take a lot of painkillers or even go under anesthesia when going to the barber shop?
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Well,... it DOES have a VERY... canny.... resemblance.... to... what ZX-chan wears,... minus the hat. ^^;
Ahahahaha! That coincidence works very nicely!
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I really like the ideas for Oralux-tan! Seeing-eye chickens... And I thought I've seen everything these days! But she better keep it away from the likes of XP-tan, FreeBSD-tan, Mimail-tan, Slashdot-tan, and Fark-tan/TotalFark-tan!
Quote from: "C-Chan"I have plans for ONE blind OS-tan (TPF-san), but can't see why we can't have another one.
I'm thinking of a compromise situation: she's blind, but also carries around a cute seeing-eye chicken. ^__^
Excellent suggestion!
Quote from: "Aurora Borealis"I really like the ideas for Oralux-tan! Seeing-eye chickens... And I thought I've seen everything these days! But she better keep it away from the likes of XP-tan, FreeBSD-tan, Mimail-tan, Slashdot-tan, and Fark-tan/TotalFark-tan!
*gasp* You're right! She'd fit right in with Abraxas-tan and FCL-tan!
QuoteOh. Still, even a 6 meter-tall Beowulf cluster-tan is more than a match for almost everyone. Although I was kinda hoping a Beowulf cluster-tan would be able to put up a decent fight against mainframe-tan (if a situation ever called for it).
Oh you can. Just get 100 Beowulf spell-capable OS-tans together, and for sure they can put up a good fight -- at least for the more "normal-sized" mainframe-tans (z/OS-sama is tall even by their standards).
Problem is trying to get enough of them to cast the spell properly. The Beowulf Cluster spell is heavily dependent on group synergy -- so everyone literally must be of sound mind and body in order to make the spell stable (especially when you add more people to the pool).
While the LUC members COULD form a veritable ARMY of Beowulf Cluster-tans, do you think that'd ever happen?! ^^;
More than likely their giant chimeras would dissolve into BLOBS of bickering and animosity before they'd even break the 50 foot mark. ^____^;
QuoteHoly craaaaaap!
"There's a giant on the loose!"
"EVERYBODY PANIC!!"
"Who will save the children?!"
"Forget the children, RUN FOR YOUR FREAKING LIVES BEFORE SHE SQUASHES YOU LIKE A BUG!"
'AAAaAAAAAh!"
(everyone seen running and screaming)
z/OS: Puny humans, I'm just trying to go shopping! Be nice or I will purposely destroy the town! MUAHAHAHAhA!
Barring the fact that she's too uptight to do evil laughter, you have it nailed! ^.^
Now you're making me want to start the z/OS-sama project again. *sigh* I just can't focus on one thing, can I? ^^;
No,... I have to really concentrate on getting it together! ^0^
Get it together... Get it together... Get it together...
QuoteDid SunOS-tan choose to have her identity change? But she does regret and resent it because she wasn't able to spend as much time with SpringOS-tan since then.
I would say not. Very few company-based OS-tans ever choose anything. If they could, I doubt the original Commodore-tans would have ever fired their "Father", in order to have the company run by people incapable of making a proper commercial even. ^^;
QuoteNo, I'm not going to make the same mistake twice.
*crawls back into ditch*
Hmmm.... ^.^
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*mischievous grin* ^w^
*starts using tiny shovel to toss dirt into ditch*
Fufufu.... ^o^
QuoteShe is such a great character! It's a shame I haven't drawn any fanart of her yet! However, she will be an important character in my second OS-tan flashback story! (darn, I still need to finish the first one though >__<)
Get it together too... Get it together too... Get it together too...
QuoteThat latter scenario is so much better, happier and simply makes a great story of GENIAC-chan overcoming her fears of isolation and being in a time period so different from her own and how EXEC-sama learns to feel useful again and how they benefit from their friendship with each other! So much better!
The former scenario would be just awful and bleak
*mischievous grin* On the other hand, the second scenario is easier to draw. ^w^
Fufufu... Sorry, I'm on a mischievous streak or something. ^_____^;
QuoteOkay, I have a general idea for how she should look: 10 meter-long hair in ponytail, really old-fashioned outfit (Renaissance-era, maybe? Or maybe 18th century-style because of the really crazy, complex, several-layered dresses that the upper class wore back then!) although I have no idea for the color scheme though.
I would probably aim for Renaissance era, if only because she predates the era of stuffy, "Let them eat cake" OS-tans. If anything, she would be like a more antiquated CTSS-sama -- and on the same veign, some fusion of Renaissance era dress with some other interesting culture of your choice would be the way to go. ^__^
Physically, I've only used Mahoro-chan (from Mahoromatic) as her anime base, if only because of her old lady-like innocence, quaint mannerisms and disdain for violence and perversity. Being familiar with Howl's Moving Castle would help a lot too with her personality, as it's chock full of granny figures you can admire. ^^
As far as her colors go, try referring to old color photos of the UNIVAC computers for some inspiration. That usually works for me every once in a while. ^^
(http://www.friedmanarchives.com/Non-Gallery-Images-1/images/JPL%20Univac%201219%208x12%20300%20dpi.jpg)
QuoteIt has also been mentioned that haircuts are highly painful to her. Can't she just take a lot of painkillers or even go under anesthesia when going to the barber shop?
Well her hair is actually more of an extension of her brain -- the more you cut off, the more damage you can do, not just to her intelligence and reflexes, but also basic motor and respiratory functions. Shaving it off completely or even just shoulder-length is outright fatal. @__@
And since her company has been gone for ages,taking with them the only means to perform any kind of corrective surgery needed for an upgrade, she has to stay like that forever. Her hair then is like her own "strings".
QuoteI really like the ideas for Oralux-tan! Seeing-eye chickens... And I thought I've seen everything these days! But she better keep it away from the likes of XP-tan, FreeBSD-tan, Mimail-tan, Slashdot-tan, and Fark-tan/TotalFark-tan!
Whoops! Guess the Byte Me pizzeria is getting another customer. ^^;
Quote*gasp* You're right! She'd fit right in with Abraxas-tan and FCL-tan!
See what I mean? ^^
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Oh you can. Just get 100 Beowulf spell-capable OS-tans together, and for sure they can put up a good fight -- at least for the more "normal-sized" mainframe-tans (z/OS-sama is tall even by their standards).
No one can beat z/OS-sama, can they? ;012
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Problem is trying to get enough of them to cast the spell properly. The Beowulf Cluster spell is heavily dependent on group synergy -- so everyone literally must be of sound mind and body in order to make the spell stable (especially when you add more people to the pool).
I see. It is possible for a Beowulf Cluster-tan to take on some mainframe-tans but to do so requires more OS-tans and trying to get the spells to be stable gets increasingly difficult.
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While the LUC members COULD form a veritable ARMY of Beowulf Cluster-tans, do you think that'd ever happen?! ^^;
HAHAHAHAHA! No. Too much clashing.
"I want to be the one to initiate the spell!"
"No, I'm a sorceress, darnit!"
"Hey! You just set my head on fire! I'm suing!"
"Eww... I don't want to be next to HER!"
"Don't make me smack you with my suitcase..."
"Can I be next to Unix-sama? Tee hee..."
"AAAAAAUGH! FSCK THIS! I HAD ENOUGH OF ALL YOUR BULL****!"
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More than likely their giant chimeras would dissolve into BLOBS of bickering and animosity before they'd even break the 50 foot mark. ^____^;
Like in my demonstration! :D
QuoteQuoteHoly craaaaaap!
"There's a giant on the loose!"
"EVERYBODY PANIC!!"
"Who will save the children?!"
"Forget the children, RUN FOR YOUR FREAKING LIVES BEFORE SHE SQUASHES YOU LIKE A BUG!"
'AAAaAAAAAh!"
(everyone seen running and screaming)
z/OS: Puny humans, I'm just trying to go shopping! Be nice or I will purposely destroy the town! MUAHAHAHAhA!
Barring the fact that she's too uptight to do evil laughter, you have it nailed! ^.^
What, no maniacal laughter from someone of her stature with an ego to match? ;013
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Now you're making me want to start the z/OS-sama project again. *sigh* I just can't focus on one thing, can I? ^^;
I can't either ^^;
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No,... I have to really concentrate on getting it together! ^0^
Get it together... Get it together... Get it together...
That's the spirit!
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I would say not. Very few company-based OS-tans ever choose anything. If they could, I doubt the original Commodore-tans would have ever fired their "Father", in order to have the company run by people incapable of making a proper commercial even. ^^;
Not to mention that the founder of Commodore left, started his own company that merged with Atari and created the Atari ST which was one of the biggest competitors to the Commodores!
And of course most of us know about Steve Jobs leaving Apple, founding NeXT but returning back to Apple to implement NeXTSTEP technology in a new generation of Mac OS.
It is not completely surprising that SunOS-tan didn't choose to change her identity. Most OS-tans who had identity changes didn't choose to.
Ex: Linspire-tan (got sued by M$ to force name change), Mac OS 7.7-tan (changed to Mac OS 8 to exploit a legal loophole in liscensing Mac Clones- they were only liscensed to run Mac OS 7.x), Mac OS 8.7-tan (changed to Mac OS 9 but changed back to 8.7 or Sonata because of the lawsuit from OS-9's company but the suit got thrown out, Apple allowed to use Mac OS 9).
However on the other hand, System 4.4-tan chose to change her identity! (although in secrecy, hence 4.4-tan's alleged disappearance)
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Hmmm.... ^.^
....
*mischievous grin* ^w^
*starts using tiny shovel to toss dirt into ditch*
Fufufu.... ^o^
Hey, what are you doing-- Aaaaaaaaah! That must be revenge for me putting you in a bed of lettuce and tomato while you were sleeping! I deserve it! *sniffle*
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Get it together too... Get it together too... Get it together too...
I'll try. Not making any promises here but I'll try and get it together too... Get it together too...
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*mischievous grin* On the other hand, the second scenario is easier to draw. ^w^
Fufufu... Sorry, I'm on a mischievous streak or something. ^_____^;
Me too!
QuoteI would probably aim for Renaissance era, if only because she predates the era of stuffy, "Let them eat cake" OS-tans. If anything, she would be like a more antiquated CTSS-sama -- and on the same veign, some fusion of Renaissance era dress with some other interesting culture of your choice would be the way to go. ^__^
That is a better choice, and distances her from that stuffy generation!
Btw, when was EXEC first released? I could not find a release date for it.
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_EXECsama_sketch.png)
But here is a preconcept sketch!
Went with the color scheme of the UNIVAC machines (although the dark blue hair was just supposed to be a throwback to Mahoro, her anime inspiration)
Since I had a hard time trying to put a bunch of red and gold gems on her dress (what I originally intended, to refer to the blinking red lights with gold rims), I decided to give her some gold and ruby jewelry instead (and I thought going with the gem-studded dress would have looked too extravagent)
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Well her hair is actually more of an extension of her brain -- the more you cut off, the more damage you can do, not just to her intelligence and reflexes, but also basic motor and respiratory functions. Shaving it off completely or even just shoulder-length is outright fatal. @__@
Whoa... I didn't know it was to that extent! I bet that she has a huge fear of scissors and barbershops...
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And since her company has been gone for ages,taking with them the only means to perform any kind of corrective surgery needed for an upgrade, she has to stay like that forever. Her hair then is like her own "strings".
That's really unfortunate :(
Fufufu... sorry for the small disappearing act. ^___^
QuoteNo one can beat z/OS-sama, can they?
Oh now, she's still proprietary, and proprietary-tans can have more exploitable weaknesses than they'll admit to. ^.^
Besides, ever watched War of the Worlds? Sometimes the LARGEST opponents can be taken down by the littlest things. ^___^
That, and there's also the latest super virus-tans that have emerged, and are wandering about getting larger and more uncontrollabe.
QuoteHAHAHAHAHA! No. Too much clashing.
"I want to be the one to initiate the spell!"
"No, I'm a sorceress, darnit!"
"Hey! You just set my head on fire! I'm suing!"
"Eww... I don't want to be next to HER!"
"Don't make me smack you with my suitcase..."
"Can I be next to Unix-sama? Tee hee..."
"AAAAAAUGH! FSCK THIS! I HAD ENOUGH OF ALL YOUR BULL****!"
QuoteLike in my demonstration!
You got it! ^__~
Besides, when you think about it, there's yet to be a situation where anyone has to take on the Mainframe-tans. The market is already doing a good job of making them obsolete by attrition. ^^'
Why hire the services of a 200ft diva, when an 18ft Beowulf Cluster-tan is all you need to run a business? ^.^
QuoteWhat, no maniacal laughter from someone of her stature with an ego to match?
<____<
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>____>
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[whispering]
Maybe in private.... But shhhhhhh.... ^.^;
QuoteIt is not completely surprising that SunOS-tan didn't choose to change her identity. Most OS-tans who had identity changes didn't choose to.
Ex: Linspire-tan (got sued by M$ to force name change), Mac OS 7.7-tan (changed to Mac OS 8 to exploit a legal loophole in liscensing Mac Clones- they were only liscensed to run Mac OS 7.x), Mac OS 8.7-tan (changed to Mac OS 9 but changed back to 8.7 or Sonata because of the lawsuit from OS-9's company but the suit got thrown out, Apple allowed to use Mac OS 9).
I kinda figured that you could relate to that, much the same way as you can relate with Lisa-chan's conflicting emotions compared to System 6-san's. ^__^
QuoteHey, what are you doing-- Aaaaaaaaah! That must be revenge for me putting you in a bed of lettuce and tomato while you were sleeping! I deserve it! *sniffle*
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa?!! You DID?!!!!!!!!! >0<
Ooooooooh!!!
*starts doubling pace of dirt digging*
And to prevent that from ever happening....
*douses self with habanero sauce*
There we go,... now I'm only tasty to a smaller demographic. >v<
QuoteBtw, when was EXEC first released? I could not find a release date for it.
The UNIVAC I was first built in 1951, created in part by the original ENIAC designers. You can read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIVAC_I
I did however goof, since the EXEC OS wasn't actually introduced until the UNIVAC 1101 line, almost decade later. That's the reason why GMOS-sama is technically the first TRUE OS-tan ever (created in 1955).
Fufufu.... buuuuuuuuuuut.... since we're already blurring the line between hardware and software anyway,... let's just conveniently sweep that fact under the rug and work with it.... ^_______^;
QuoteBut here is a preconcept sketch!
Went with the color scheme of the UNIVAC machines (although the dark blue hair was just supposed to be a throwback to Mahoro, her anime inspiration)
Since I had a hard time trying to put a bunch of red and gold gems on her dress (what I originally intended, to refer to the blinking red lights with gold rims), I decided to give her some gold and ruby jewelry instead (and I thought going with the gem-studded dress would have looked too extravagent)
Woohoo! I don't know how, but I was absoluely certain you were going to draw an EXEC-sama sketch. ^___^
Very happy to see you make great use of my design suggestion for her clothing -- it looks old fashioned yet exotic, not unlike Siya's GMOS-sama design. No doubt it'll be a beautiful treat to behold when its colored. ^___^
The hair, though, needs some adjustment, as I originally thought she was a bridesmaid. ^^'.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but by ponytail I meant something like the last 20 feet or so of her hair is actually thinner than the rest (a little less than a head's thickness), and is either tied in ribbons or braided to make it easier to move around (like thick a rope). The main portion IS thick and solid like you have it drawn -- but it's precisely because of this that she can only really have it loose, as putting so much pressure on one single focal point (e.g., the top of her head) would be FAR too painful with all that weight. ^~^;
Try it with her hair cascading downward -- thin around the top of her head, but widening to a veritable mane around shoulder-length. ^__^
QuoteWhoa... I didn't know it was to that extent! I bet that she has a huge fear of scissors and barbershops...
Just scissors will do. Given what I mentioned above, she doesn't really like moving around too much if she doesn't have to. The vintage-tans did build her a cart for all that hair some while back, but at her age it's a bit hard to handle. ^___^'
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Oh now, she's still proprietary, and proprietary-tans can have more exploitable weaknesses than they'll admit to. ^.^
Besides, ever watched War of the Worlds? Sometimes the LARGEST opponents can be taken down by the littlest things. ^___^
I haven't watched War of the Worlds, but I do know that largest of opponents can still be taken down by blinding them, tripping them and possibly hitting them in the shin. And giant robots can be taken down by pressing the big selfdestruct button on their backs! :D
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That, and there's also the latest super virus-tans that have emerged, and are wandering about getting larger and more uncontrollabe.
That's right... IIRC, there is a virus-tan mentioned that could affect the mainframes.
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You got it! ^__~
Whoo-hoo!
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Besides, when you think about it, there's yet to be a situation where anyone has to take on the Mainframe-tans. The market is already doing a good job of making them obsolete by attrition. ^^'
HAHAHAHA! Although still powerful, they have lost their prestige! Aside from the military, is there anyone else who still uses mainframes these days?
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaa?!! You DID?!!!!!!!!! >0<
Ooooooooh!!!
*starts doubling pace of dirt digging*
Aaaaaaaah! Can't you take a joke?! ;__; It's getting hard to breathe here! *cough*
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And to prevent that from ever happening....
*douses self with habanero sauce*
There we go,... now I'm only tasty to a smaller demographic. >v<
Well, you are right. I don't think most people would dare try anything doused in habanero sauce. Too hot to handle for most! However I actually do have a friend who loves spicy food and hot sauce and habanero is not too hot for him!
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The UNIVAC I was first built in 1951, created in part by the original ENIAC designers. You can read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIVAC_I
I did however goof, since the EXEC OS wasn't actually introduced until the UNIVAC 1101 line, almost decade later. That's the reason why GMOS-sama is technically the first TRUE OS-tan ever (created in 1955).
Fufufu.... buuuuuuuuuuut.... since we're already blurring the line between hardware and software anyway,... let's just conveniently sweep that fact under the rug and work with it.... ^_______^;
That is strange, so that means that GMOS-sama and GENIAC-chan are the two oldest characters? (or does EXEC-sama also represent the all the UNIVAC machines)
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Woohoo! I don't know how, but I was absoluely certain you were going to draw an EXEC-sama sketch. ^___^
Well, of course! That was why I was asking about her appearance! ;012
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Very happy to see you make great use of my design suggestion for her clothing -- it looks old fashioned yet exotic, not unlike Siya's GMOS-sama design. No doubt it'll be a beautiful treat to behold when its colored. ^___^
Aw geez... Making the color version is going to be tricky, trying to show off her mega long hair when I only have so much picture space to work with!
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The hair, though, needs some adjustment, as I originally thought she was a bridesmaid. ^^'.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but by ponytail I meant something like the last 20 feet or so of her hair is actually thinner than the rest (a little less than a head's thickness), and is either tied in ribbons or braided to make it easier to move around (like thick a rope). The main portion IS thick and solid like you have it drawn -- but it's precisely because of this that she can only really have it loose, as putting so much pressure on one single focal point (e.g., the top of her head) would be FAR too painful with all that weight. ^~^;
Try it with her hair cascading downward -- thin around the top of her head, but widening to a veritable mane around shoulder-length. ^__^
I knew something did seem strange about the hair. Thanks for pointing that out. Made a quick sketch with updated hairstyle:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_EXECsama_sketch-updated.jpg)
QuoteJust scissors will do. Given what I mentioned above, she doesn't really like moving around too much if she doesn't have to. The vintage-tans did build her a cart for all that hair some while back, but at her age it's a bit hard to handle. ^___^'
I don't blame her for not wanting to move around too much, it's hard to do so with all of that hair!
QuoteI haven't watched War of the Worlds, but I do know that largest of opponents can still be taken down by blinding them, tripping them and possibly hitting them in the shin. And giant robots can be taken down by pressing the big selfdestruct button on their backs!
That's right. ^.^
And that's fine about WOTW,... I don't like any of the movies anyway. I should've said if you ever "read" War of the Worlds. WAY better. ^___^
QuoteHAHAHAHA! Although still powerful, they have lost their prestige! Aside from the military, is there anyone else who still uses mainframes these days?
Just company that still have them left over and can't afford the cost of switching to something new. And then there's stuff like airports, train stations, and other placess that require massive traffic of critical data. ^^;
Plus there's also new mainframes that are smaller, slimmer and more energy efficient, and hence great alternatives to server farms -- but they still cost A LOT. >v<
QuoteWell, you are right. I don't think most people would dare try anything doused in habanero sauce. Too hot to handle for most! However I actually do have a friend who loves spicy food and hot sauce and habanero is not too hot for him!
Well actually... I'm kinda like that too. ^^;
*licks self* Mmmm,... I'm tasty.
Okay, you can come out now. You're forgiven,.... ^___^
Here, let me lend you a hand....
*steps into shaky dirt and falls into ditch along with Aurora*
Whoops! ^^;
....
Okay, so we're both stuck now. ^___^;
QuoteThat is strange, so that means that GMOS-sama and GENIAC-chan are the two oldest characters? (or does EXEC-sama also represent the all the UNIVAC machines)
Well I think at this point, it's beter to have EXEC-sama represent all the UNIVAC machines. After all, there's supposed to be an EXEC I, II and III, but I already copped out by creating just one of them. Besides, it would weaken GENIAC's storyline if EXEC-sama were younger. ^^
And of course, they're only the two oldest living OS-tans. Before them were the ancients, such as ENIAC-sama and Colossus-sama (an ancestral Mainframe-tan).
QuoteAw geez... Making the color version is going to be tricky, trying to show off her mega long hair when I only have so much picture space to work with!
Of course I can help ya out. ^^
Wouldn't be fair to let you do all the work, when it was my ideas that made it so hard. ^___^'
QuoteI knew something did seem strange about the hair. Thanks for pointing that out. Made a quick sketch with updated hairstyle:
Ahhhh,... now THERE we go! THAT'S a roll-up of age, grace, wisdom and beauty I was looking for! And then the elegant manner in which her hair is coiled down before her in order to take the picture,... beautiful!
Don't know about you, but this looks like a Keeper to me! ^v^
Added after 4 minutes: BTW, not sure if this is obvious, but EXEC-sama has a bit of Rapunzel influence too. Though not really critical, you might be interested in checking out the original fairy tale for backstory ideas. ^.^
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That's right. ^.^
And that's fine about WOTW,... I don't like any of the movies anyway. I should've said if you ever "read" War of the Worlds. WAY better. ^___^
No, I haven't read it either. But I looked it up on Wikipedia to see what it is like. Looks great!
Incidentally, with movies based on novels, the book is generally better than the movie version.
QuoteJust company that still have them left over and can't afford the cost of switching to something new. And then there's stuff like airports, train stations, and other placess that require massive traffic of critical data. ^^;
Oh! But at least those that still have them for the first reason may have a some bragging rights, that their computers have lasted for so long! Should have figured that airports, train stations and such still use them. ^^;
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Plus there's also new mainframes that are smaller, slimmer and more energy efficient, and hence great alternatives to server farms -- but they still cost A LOT. >v<
Interesting! I assume since mainframes are so powerful, they should last a lot longer which is part of why they are so costly. They are an investment!
For example: I forgot the name of this mainframe, but there was a million-dollar mainframe computer made in 1976 that a clock speed of 80 MHz and would be the fastest computer around for about 20 years!
QuoteWell actually... I'm kinda like that too. ^^;
*licks self* Mmmm,... I'm tasty.
Okay, you can come out now. You're forgiven,.... ^___^
Thank you! :D
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Here, let me lend you a hand....
*steps into shaky dirt and falls into ditch along with Aurora*
Whoops! ^^;
....
Okay, so we're both stuck now. ^___^;
T__T
QuoteWell I think at this point, it's beter to have EXEC-sama represent all the UNIVAC machines. After all, there's supposed to be an EXEC I, II and III, but I already copped out by creating just one of them. Besides, it would weaken GENIAC's storyline if EXEC-sama were younger. ^^
Good choice making the EXEC versions into one character (cuts down on characters, is just plain easier) and having her represent all the UNIVAC machines! If EXEC-sama were younger than GENIAC-chan, it just wouldn't be right.
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And of course, they're only the two oldest living OS-tans. Before them were the ancients, such as ENIAC-sama and Colossus-sama (an ancestral Mainframe-tan).
Computers that didn't have OSes and therefore had to be operated by people... That's ancient!
But don't forget Antikythera Mechanism-tan!
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Of course I can help ya out. ^^
Wouldn't be fair to let you do all the work, when it was my ideas that made it so hard. ^___^'
I like a challenge but you can help me out if you want! That would be great because we pretty much created her together!
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Ahhhh,... now THERE we go! THAT'S a roll-up of age, grace, wisdom and beauty I was looking for! And then the elegant manner in which her hair is coiled down before her in order to take the picture,... beautiful!
Don't know about you, but this looks like a Keeper to me! ^v^
Okay, that's a keeper!
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BTW, not sure if this is obvious, but EXEC-sama has a bit of Rapunzel influence too. Though not really critical, you might be interested in checking out the original fairy tale for backstory ideas. ^.^
I've read the synopsis and I have some ideas!
-EXEC-sama may have lived in a tower in her youth like Rapunzel did, or possibly put in that tower after being discontinued.
-She was still being cared for by employees after discontinuement.
-But she still felt lonely because her company did not want her to mingle with the 'lesser' OSes and computers.
-During the night, some OS-tans kept her company and talked with her
-Luckily, EXEC-sama's caretakers/employees only entered her tower during the daytime
-An employee finds out about EXEC-sama having 'friends' over at her tower.
-The employees are angry at first and banish those other OS-tans from the tower
-But that didn't stop them! They get caught again, but this time the employees consider that EXEC-sama is a lot happier with thost other OS-tans around and allow her to leave the tower to be with them.
-These other OS-tans take her to where they live... the Binteeji Renmei!
Stand by on this one. ^.^
*starts typing response*
Added after 3 hours 44 minutes: QuoteIncidentally, with movies based on novels, the book is generally better than the movie version.
The 1980's version of "The Shining" is a notable exception. ^^'
QuoteOh! But at least those that still have them for the first reason may have a some bragging rights, that their computers have lasted for so long! Should have figured that airports, train stations and such still use them. ^^;
Nah trust me, it's rarely something to brag about. ^^;
Or rather,... maybe a few IT and software engineers do (you know, the ones that can't think beyond M$ products),... but the company execs themselves only brag about profits. ^___^;
QuoteInteresting! I assume since mainframes are so powerful, they should last a lot longer which is part of why they are so costly. They are an investment!
For example: I forgot the name of this mainframe, but there was a million-dollar mainframe computer made in 1976 that a clock speed of 80 MHz and would be the fastest computer around for about 20 years!
In a client/server setup, for example, you can have powerful server stacks that can virtualize full operating systems for hundreds or thousands of thin clients....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client
...cutting the cost of hardware and software maintenance significantly, while still keeping thin clients equipped with at least the basic application suite for getting the work done.
Mainframes have been doing this for decades, mostly with terminal sessions and other time-sharing methods, but the newer mainframes are certainly capable of handling the equivalent thin-client load of a small server farm. After all, a mainframe is really only a "super server" of sorts (and probably even phenomenal tennis players). ^^;
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1276233,00.html
Bottom line is, if you consolidate so much computing power and, in the case of virtualized thin clients, active OS sessions for thousands of employees/students/agents/etc, it better be built rock-solid. ^^;
If one of Google's servers goes down, it has hundreds more to pick up the slack. But if all servers get replaced by a single monolithic mainframe, and something were to happen to it,.... chances are, it's gonna hurt more. ^_______^;
QuoteComputers that didn't have OSes and therefore had to be operated by people... That's ancient!
But don't forget Antikythera Mechanism-tan!
I won't forget. ^^;
Honestly, those, there's a whole section on primordial OS-tans that we could pour over, if we weren't already so caught up in existing projects. ^____^'
QuoteI've read the synopsis and I have some ideas!
-EXEC-sama may have lived in a tower in her youth like Rapunzel did, or possibly put in that tower after being discontinued.
-She was still being cared for by employees after discontinuement.
-But she still felt lonely because her company did not want her to mingle with the 'lesser' OSes and computers.
-During the night, some OS-tans kept her company and talked with her
-Luckily, EXEC-sama's caretakers/employees only entered her tower during the daytime
-An employee finds out about EXEC-sama having 'friends' over at her tower.
-The employees are angry at first and banish those other OS-tans from the tower
-But that didn't stop them! They get caught again, but this time the employees consider that EXEC-sama is a lot happier with thost other OS-tans around and allow her to leave the tower to be with them.
-These other OS-tans take her to where they live... the Binteeji Renmei!
WOW!!! There we go, that's absolutely PERFECT!!! *v*
And if you think about it in those terms, EXEC-sama is really not all that different from GENIAC-chan. She lived all her life in that tower, so never really got to see the world change around her, other than perhaps the occasional car/plane pass by and become more sophisticated as the years roll on. And since the tower is likely medieval-like, there were no newspapers or radio or television or even any books. It was like a 40 year slumber, except that she was fully awake to endure it all.
I also imagine her arrival at the Binteji would've been kinda cute. Even things as outdated now as VHS tapes, data casettes, vinyl records, carbon-filament light bulbs and steam cars (all still used by the vintage-tans to this very day) would've been like wonderful (or scary) works of sorcery for her.
If not for such good friends as Amiga-sama, ][-chan, 1.0-chan and ZX-tan (and the eventual arrival of ITS-sama, as well as perhaps a visit from UNIX-sama), there would have been a risk of her begging to be locked back in the tower again.
Fortunately she endured it, and was rewarded with more knowledge during the past few years than she ever received in the previous 40 or so confined to virtual solitude. And more importantly, she was around to help GENIAC-chan. ^___^
I wish I could reply to all of this, as I see EXEC-sama is being designed as we speak...I'm going to save and read this over, though... :)
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Nah trust me, it's rarely something to brag about. ^^;
Or rather,... maybe a few IT and software engineers do (you know, the ones that can't think beyond M$ products),... but the company execs themselves only brag about profits. ^___^;
Hmm... :-|
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In a client/server setup, for example, you can have powerful server stacks that can virtualize full operating systems for hundreds or thousands of thin clients....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client
...cutting the cost of hardware and software maintenance significantly, while still keeping thin clients equipped with at least the basic application suite for getting the work done.
Neat!
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Mainframes have been doing this for decades, mostly with terminal sessions and other time-sharing methods, but the newer mainframes are certainly capable of handling the equivalent thin-client load of a small server farm. After all, a mainframe is really only a "super server" of sorts (and probably even phenomenal tennis players). ^^;
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1276233,00.html
Bottom line is, if you consolidate so much computing power and, in the case of virtualized thin clients, active OS sessions for thousands of employees/students/agents/etc, it better be built rock-solid. ^^;
If one of Google's servers goes down, it has hundreds more to pick up the slack. But if all servers get replaced by a single monolithic mainframe, and something were to happen to it,.... chances are, it's gonna hurt more. ^_______^;
So most of the time, server farms are better than mainframes!
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WOW!!! There we go, that's absolutely PERFECT!!! *v*
And if you think about it in those terms, EXEC-sama is really not all that different from GENIAC-chan. She lived all her life in that tower, so never really got to see the world change around her, other than perhaps the occasional car/plane pass by and become more sophisticated as the years roll on. And since the tower is likely medieval-like, there were no newspapers or radio or television or even any books. It was like a 40 year slumber, except that she was fully awake to endure it all.
Well, of course there were still some OS-tans who stopped by every so often to talk to her at night and I thought that the caretakers would have brought some stuff for her to do so she didn't waste away completely. But for the most part, her life in the tower was very lonely.
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I also imagine her arrival at the Binteji would've been kinda cute. Even things as outdated now as VHS tapes, data casettes, vinyl records, carbon-filament light bulbs and steam cars (all still used by the vintage-tans to this very day) would've been like wonderful (or scary) works of sorcery for her.
Ha ha! Even the old-school stuff is insanely futuristic or works of sorcery to her! Although it's sad too :(
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If not for such good friends as Amiga-sama, ][-chan, 1.0-chan and ZX-tan (and the eventual arrival of ITS-sama, as well as perhaps a visit from UNIX-sama), there would have been a risk of her begging to be locked back in the tower again.
I understand why she'd like Amiga-sama, ][-chan, Windows 1.0-chan, ZX-tan and ITS-sama but UNIX-sama?! That got me by surprise!
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Fortunately she endured it, and was rewarded with more knowledge during the past few years than she ever received in the previous 40 or so confined to virtual solitude. And more importantly, she was around to help GENIAC-chan. ^___^
Indeed!
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Here are a couple new character concepts!
Visi On-tan info:
http://toastytech.com/guis/vision.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiOn
technical details:
-a short-lived but influential GUI OS
-made and priced for high-end corporate workstations, also able to work with IBM PC compatibles running MS DOS
-ported to other OSes, such as C/PM or Unix (and has a Unix-based development environment)
-never popular due to high cost (up to $7,500) and minimum requirements (512 KB of RAM,a 5 MB hard drive) and slow performance
-influenced the development of Windows
-advanced for its time with many modern GUI features, even some that did not become commonplace until years later
-did not include a graphical file manager though
-was a huge success at its first demonstrations in 1982
-was supposed to be released in the summer of 1983 but wasn't released until December. Was already being declared vaporware
-during development, VisiCorp was under 'corporate civil war'
-recieved largely negative reviews after release, some claimed VisiOn to be 'the end of operating systems'
-Visi On sold to another company in 1984, never heard from again
character descriptions and backstory: A diva, aristocrat and business woman. In her youth she never mingled with the home users or home computer OS-tans. However, she did work with the Unices, DR-DOS-tan and MS-DOS-tan and admired Lisa-tan (another very high-end business OS).
She was a great success before her official release, in her first appearance to the public in 1982 and her future looked very promising. She was expected to make her official debut in the summer of 1983 but was delayed until December. During that time, people were already counting her out before she had a chance (which angered her a lot). Also during this time, her company was under a civil war which was emotionally scarring to her.
When she finally made her official release, the people were unimpressed and she got a lot of negative reviews. Despite being advanced in most ways, she was slow, demanding and picky. Another cause of her demise was the announcement of Windows in late 1983, which was said to have driven many of Visi On-tan's customers away. She was sold to another company in 1984 but was not heard from again or just no one cared. (however she is still alive)
And the worst part... *GASP* She has a vendetta against Windows 1.0-tan! (who herself was unremarkable and unsuccessful but still was a factor in the highly advanced Visi On-tan's demise, adding insult to injury here) Oh yeah, she's not fond of the other Windows-tans either. While her dislike for the Windows-tans does not runas deeply as OS/2-tan's hatred for them, Visi On-tan still got screwed over pretty badly! She strongly admires the Anti$oft Coalition.
Visi On-tan is however, friendly with the Unices as well as DR-DOS-tan. (I can also imagine her being friendly with IMSAI 8080-tan; a fellow formerly powerful business woman who suffered a similar fate to her) She also likes and has empathy for MS-DOS-tan (who back in the good ol' days was powerful, confident and influential, now these days just that shy little girl no one really notices anymore and is the unofficial house servant of the M$ Family) and wants to help her but cannot when all of those Windows-tans are there too!
personality-wise, she is disgruntled, homesick (but knowing that she can never return to her parent company) and thinks the everything and almost everyone has conspired against her. However she does cheer up in the company of those she is friendly with, knowing that there are still a few people who care.
I'm not sure if she would be in the CIOST or a wanderer. Her personality makes her fit in with the CIOST pretty well, but she is or at least was a diva who wouldn't consider fighting- she'd have one of her security people do that for her. But living on her own, she may have toughened up over the years and has learned to fight.
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And a really obscure Commodore-tan,
Commodore 65-tan!
technical details:
-a prototype that was to be improved version of the Commodore 64
-development started in 1990, cancelled in 1991
-meant to have backwards compatibility with the C64 as well as have advanced features like those of the Amiga
-was never officially released, but the C65 prototypes were sold on the open market after Commodore's demise in 1994
-has a 3.54 MHz processor (much faster compared to the C64's 1 MHz)
-128 KB RAM expandable to 8 MB
-used Commodore Basic 10.0
-an internal 3.25" floppy drive was to be implemented but never was
character details: Appearance-wise, she has some resemblance to C64-tan but the biggest differences include the fact that C65-tan is considerably taller (I'd say in the upper 5' range), very clunky, and dressed like a pirate. She'd be dressed like a pirate because the C65 was never officially released but the prototypes were sold on the open market. She'd also be very determined and stubborn, still getting out into the world despite her disadvantages and not letting them get her down. She is seen as an inspiration to some, others... as insane. For affiliation, most likely a wanderer.
QuoteI wish I could reply to all of this, as I see EXEC-sama is being designed as we speak...I'm going to save and read this over, though...
Oh, you'll love all the stuff we written for EXEC-sama. ^__^
Special thanks to Aurora-hime for the great character concept art. ^.^
QuoteSo most of the time, server farms are better than mainframes!
Well at least they're a helluva cheaper. ^.^
Cluster up a whole bunch of cheap computers thrown in the trash by business, labs and universities, and you can create a mini super computer for literally the cost of cabling. ^___^
But compared to modern mainframes, though, they're still relatively inefficient to them. Like with the Beowulf cluster analogy, you would need several such makeshift servers to equal the power of a single mainframe.
Plus the energy expenditure and maintenance for all those machines will start to add up -- after a while, running and maintaining a single machine rather than 500 will start to look a bit attractive, upstart costs be damned.... ^.^;
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3628646
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Well, of course there were still some OS-tans who stopped by every so often to talk to her at night and I thought that the caretakers would have brought some stuff for her to do so she didn't waste away completely. But for the most part, her life in the tower was very lonely.
I forgot if it was you or Bella-hime (or both) when I discussed my thoughts on brains + activity. If a living thing isn't stimulated regularly, then its brain will deteriorate sooner and its lifespan may shorten as a result. Her caretakers were at least sensible enough to deprive her of absolutely nothing to do -- but like a dog in a pound, she likely spent the majority of her time locked away without anything to do.
Or she might've taken up a small hobby at least -- with all that hair, surely she must've had plenty of time to develop 1001 ways to braid it. ^.^
QuoteHa ha! Even the old-school stuff is insanely futuristic or works of sorcery to her! Although it's sad too
Again, like with GENIAC-chan, it's only a little sad at first. Once she starts getting used to it, progresses from cute, to interesting, to inspiring. ^.^
QuoteI understand why she'd like Amiga-sama, ][-chan, Windows 1.0-chan, ZX-tan and ITS-sama but UNIX-sama?! That got me by surprise!
Fufufu! Why does everyone think UNIX-sama is some kinda monster? ^___^'
I mean,... okay she is a little.... *dodges boots*.... but in the case of EXEC-sama, there are two primary drivers in play:
1) EXEC-sama is older than Grandma CTSS even! Her efforts to vanquish Multics-sama and GECOS-sama notwithstanding, UNIX-sama still acknowledges a small bit of respect to her elders. ^________^
2) UNIX-sama is old as well. You know, "birds of a feather", having something more in common than with the other "kids". This is also the reason why, prior to GENIAC-chan, she'd spend most of her time having long conversations with ITS-sama, who at least is old enough to remember magnetic tapes. ^__^
QuoteVisi On-tan
info:
QuoteQuotecharacter descriptions and backstory: A diva, aristocrat and business woman. In her youth she never mingled with the home users or home computer OS-tans. However, she did work with the Unices, DR-DOS-tan and MS-DOS-tan and admired Lisa-tan (another very high-end business OS).
Fufu... reading the encyclopedia entry, I kinda figured she'd be a huge Lisa-tan admirer. I imagine she and Lisa-chan would be like old-fashioned aristocratic friends -- elegantly and courteously poking fun at eachother over fine tea and pâtisserie.
Actually, that could add an element of modern despair (oh noes! here comes more sap!)....
She views Lisa-chan as her senior and always admirered her strength -- but seeing her now in the state that she's in is rather devastating, and only strengthens her resolve that the entire world is conspiring against her.
Add again the fact that Windows 1.0-chan is not only NEAR her, but actually a close friend to Lisa-chan, and that's enough to send the poor Visi-tan's brain reeling.
Quotepersonality-wise, she is disgruntled, homesick (but knowing that she can never return to her parent company) and thinks the everything and almost everyone has conspired against her. However she does cheer up in the company of those she is friendly with, knowing that there are still a few people who care.
I'm not sure if she would be in the CIOST or a wanderer. Her personality makes her fit in with the CIOST pretty well, but she is or at least was a diva who wouldn't consider fighting- she'd have one of her security people do that for her. But living on her own, she may have toughened up over the years and has learned to fight.
Well the CIOST is getting a little full....
And since she does sound a lot like an older OS/2-sama, and strongly admires the A$C,... hell, why not induct another member? ^___^
She's in the company of OS/2-sama (a fellow Windows resenter), has the older TRSDOS-chan to reminisce about the good ol' days, and can achieve her MSDOS-chan fix with PCDOS-chan. ^.^
AND... she has clerical experience, so already that makes her useful in the ever-underfunded A$C.
QuoteAnd a really obscure Commodore-tan, Commodore 65-tan!
character details: Appearance-wise, she has some resemblance to C64-tan but the biggest differences include the fact that C65-tan is considerably taller (I'd say in the upper 5' range), very clunky, and dressed like a pirate. She'd be dressed like a pirate because the C65 was never officially released but the prototypes were sold on the open market. She'd also be very determined and stubborn, still getting out into the world despite her disadvantages and not letting them get her down. She is seen as an inspiration to some, others... as insane. For affiliation, most likely a wanderer.
Holy crap! She's like an official "Bootleg"-tan -- or at least certainly the equivalent of one back in her day. ^^'
She certainly has the same resoluteness as C64-tan,... but I do agree she likely wouldn't be... shall we say,... "complete in the head". Course,... as a pirate,... that's kind of an asset.... ^^;
Wandering life fits her perfectly, especially given her tenuous existence. ^__^'
Quote from: "C-Chan"
Oh, you'll love all the stuff we written for EXEC-sama. ^__^
Special thanks to Aurora-hime for the great character concept art. ^.^
Btw, I'm almost done with the EXEC-sama pic! All that remains to be finished is the background and a little more shading!
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Well at least they're a helluva cheaper. ^.^
Cluster up a whole bunch of cheap computers thrown in the trash by business, labs and universities, and you can create a mini super computer for literally the cost of cabling. ^___^
But compared to modern mainframes, though, they're still relatively inefficient to them. Like with the Beowulf cluster analogy, you would need several such makeshift servers to equal the power of a single mainframe.
Plus the energy expenditure and maintenance for all those machines will start to add up -- after a while, running and maintaining a single machine rather than 500 will start to look a bit attractive, upstart costs be damned.... ^.^;
Ohh... Mainframes have the advantage of being much more efficient!
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I forgot if it was you or Bella-hime (or both) when I discussed my thoughts on brains + activity. If a living thing isn't stimulated regularly, then its brain will deteriorate sooner and its lifespan may shorten as a result. Her caretakers were at least sensible enough to deprive her of absolutely nothing to do -- but like a dog in a pound, she likely spent the majority of her time locked away without anything to do.
I don't remember either but you are right about the brain deteriorating over time from lack of stimulation. For example, that may partly explain feral children and why they can barely learn language and other things.
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Or she might've taken up a small hobby at least -- with all that hair, surely she must've had plenty of time to develop 1001 ways to braid it. ^.^
That's a nice way to look at it! ;012
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Again, like with GENIAC-chan, it's only a little sad at first. Once she starts getting used to it, progresses from cute, to interesting, to inspiring. ^.^
Awww.... sweet! ^^
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Fufufu! Why does everyone think UNIX-sama is some kinda monster? ^___^'
Where to start...In a berzerk fit of rage she nearly killed her mother, she has the habit of whacking people with her metal staff, throwing books, and throwing boots! Oh, and she doesn't take compliments very well.
But we all know that she is very nice compared to the likes of Festering Hate-tan, who is (currently) THE most malicious malware-tan and is a zombie with the need for REVEEEEEEEEENGE!
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I mean,... okay she is a little.... *dodges boots*.... but in the case of EXEC-sama, there are two primary drivers in play:
1) EXEC-sama is older than Grandma CTSS even! Her efforts to vanquish Multics-sama and GECOS-sama notwithstanding, UNIX-sama still acknowledges a small bit of respect to her elders. ^________^
So she does have respect for some of her elders! I wasn't sure if she would because of a lot of bad experiences she had with them (although CTSS-sama and EXEC-sama are harmless)
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2) UNIX-sama is old as well. You know, "birds of a feather", having something more in common than with the other "kids". This is also the reason why, prior to GENIAC-chan, she'd spend most of her time having long conversations with ITS-sama, who at least is old enough to remember magnetic tapes. ^__^
I see... Thank you for explaining!
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Fufu... reading the encyclopedia entry, I kinda figured she'd be a huge Lisa-tan admirer. I imagine she and Lisa-chan would be like old-fashioned aristocratic friends -- elegantly and courteously poking fun at eachother over fine tea and pâtisserie.
I knew she'd admire Lisa-tan but I wasn't sure if they ever would have met each other. Now that you mention it, they would have been good friends in a way!
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Actually, that could add an element of modern despair (oh noes! here comes more sap!)....
She views Lisa-chan as her senior and always admirered her strength -- but seeing her now in the state that she's in is rather devastating, and only strengthens her resolve that the entire world is conspiring against her.
Oh my gosh... :(
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Add again the fact that Windows 1.0-chan is not only NEAR her, but actually a close friend to Lisa-chan, and that's enough to send the poor Visi-tan's brain reeling.
Aw geez... If she wants to help Lisa-tan, she'd have to come in contact with Windows 1.0-tan who is one of Lisa-tan's friends (that Visi On-tan has a vendetta against) but Visi On-tan wouldn't be very effective at helping Lisa-tan if her mind is preocuppied with vendettas. She'd have to learn how to forgive which would be very difficult for her...
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Well the CIOST is getting a little full....
And since she does sound a lot like an older OS/2-sama, and strongly admires the A$C,... hell, why not induct another member? ^___^
She's in the company of OS/2-sama (a fellow Windows resenter), has the older TRSDOS-chan to reminisce about the good ol' days, and can achieve her MSDOS-chan fix with PCDOS-chan. ^.^
AND... she has clerical experience, so already that makes her useful in the ever-underfunded A$C.
An A$C member... Even better! She can put her skills to use AND she was taken in by some people who thought she deserved another chance! *sniffle*
However that strengthens Visi On-tan's moral dilemma even further. To help Lisa-tan, she'd have to also forgive a Windows-tan (even if it one that is harmless) which would mean going against the A$C's (or at least OS/2-tan's) beliefs!
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Holy crap! She's like an official "Bootleg"-tan -- or at least certainly the equivalent of one back in her day. ^^'
Official bootleg? Isn't that an oxymoron? ;012
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She certainly has the same resoluteness as C64-tan,... but I do agree she likely wouldn't be... shall we say,... "complete in the head". Course,... as a pirate,... that's kind of an asset.... ^^;
Wandering life fits her perfectly, especially given her tenuous existence. ^__^'
Aside from the fact that she isn't "complete in the head", she also has a pegleg because well... the C65 is incomplete! But those things are not stopping her from getting out into the world! And for affiliation, Wanderer it is! :D
EDIT: found a few more details and info:
http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/c65.html
http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/cbm/c65/c65faq20.txt
-development actually started in 1989 instead of 1990. Oops! ^^;
-very rare, only 200-1,000 exist
-has no manual, nor are there any spare parts for the C65 (if it breaks, that's it! :( )
-has good reviews despite being a prototype and difficult to set up
-looks like the C128 and shares a lot of the same command words
-meant to be the successor of the C64 (but wasn't that what the C128 was for?!?!)
Uhh... How well or poorly do you think she would have gotten along with her sisters and step sister? Given the fact that: C65 was meant to be C64's successor despite the fact C128 was already around and actually the C65 resembles C128 than C64! And C65 has some Amiga-like capabilities!
QuoteI don't remember either but you are right about the brain deteriorating over time from lack of stimulation. For example, that may partly explain feral children and why they can barely learn language and other things.
Oooh,... well that's actually not the best example, as feral children have a LOT of stimulation when they're trying to fight to stay alive. It just happens not to be for more primordial things... certainly not for learning languages and stuff. ^^;
A better example might be criminals or mental patients in extended solitary confinement, or elderly people in non-rich retirement homes, or even a lonely fish in a bowl.
QuoteThat's a nice way to look at it!
That might also explain the over-prevelance of unique hairstyles among the Vintage-tans. ^.^'
QuoteI knew she'd admire Lisa-tan but I wasn't sure if they ever would have met each other. Now that you mention it, they would have been good friends in a way!
Yeah, but you're right they wouldn't have met very often. Neither one of their schedules afforded it.
Surely Visi-tan's idealic image of Lisa-chan came primarily from stories of her exploits.
QuoteAw geez... If she wants to help Lisa-tan, she'd have to come in contact with Windows 1.0-tan who is one of Lisa-tan's friends (that Visi On-tan has a vendetta against) but Visi On-tan wouldn't be very effective at helping Lisa-tan if her mind is preocuppied with vendettas. She'd have to learn how to forgive which would be very difficult for her...
Especially when it's just as easy to simply turn away. No doubt Visi-tan might have done that at first, and the reason why she never wants to join the Binteji Renmei is because she doesn't want to have to put up with sucha difficult task.
QuoteAn A$C member... Even better! She can put her skills to use AND she was taken in by some people who thought she deserved another chance! *sniffle*
However that strengthens Visi On-tan's moral dilemma even further. To help Lisa-tan, she'd have to also forgive a Windows-tan (even if it one that is harmless) which would mean going against the A$C's (or at least OS/2-tan's) beliefs!
Well OS/2-sama doesn't really bare any malice towards 1.0-chan or even 2.0-chan -- if anything she still considers 1.0-chan as a kind of stepmother. However, she too avoids seeing them if she can afford to, since they invoke too many memories that were once fond and are now painful.
And besides, the Windows Family are a whole separate entity and fair game as far as loathing is concerned. ^___~
QuoteAside from the fact that she isn't "complete in the head", she also has a pegleg because well... the C65 is incomplete! But those things are not stopping her from getting out into the world! And for affiliation, Wanderer it is!
QuoteUhh... How well or poorly do you think she would have gotten along with her sisters and step sister? Given the fact that: C65 was meant to be C64's successor despite the fact C128 was already around and actually the C65 resembles C128 than C64! And C65 has some Amiga-like capabilities!
Hmmm... now that's a tough cookie to crack..... '___'
*ponders*
For maximum sap... I would probably say that no one among them knows that secret except C128-tan. Being the 2K-tan of the Commodore family at the time, she was probably more in-tune with the inner-happenings of the company, and closely monitored C65-tan's birth. It was her hope perhaps to give the young girl a surprise birthday party, while simultaneously presenting the joyous news to her other sisters.
But after the horrible news of her banishment, she chose not to tell anyone about it -- with the company already in its last throes, she couldn't afford to drop morale even further.
Only after the company collapsed and she was free to roam the world as a Wanderer, did she make it her life's work to find her long-lost little sister, just to see what became of her.
The irony is that while she's been on her quest, C65-tan has probably scuffled with C64-tan and VIC20-tan several times, neither of them realizing they were blood relatives. ^___^;
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Oooh,... well that's actually not the best example, as feral children have a LOT of stimulation when they're trying to fight to stay alive. It just happens not to be for more primordial things... certainly not for learning languages and stuff. ^^;
*slaps self in the forehead*
I just happened that I was thinking of Genie, one of the most famous feral children, who happened to also be locked up in isolation since was was 2 years old and until the age of 13!
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A better example might be criminals or mental patients in extended solitary confinement, or elderly people in non-rich retirement homes, or even a lonely fish in a bowl.
That is better! I've heard stories of those who have gone insane or such from solitary confinement. It is very effective, but is it worth the personal risks?
QuoteSurely Visi-tan's idealic image of Lisa-chan came primarily from stories of her exploits.
As someone trained to be a high-end business woman, she would admire Lisa-chan's exploits (even though they are not very nice at all!)
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Especially when it's just as easy to simply turn away. No doubt Visi-tan might have done that at first, and the reason why she never wants to join the Binteji Renmei is because she doesn't want to have to put up with sucha difficult task.
Correct! She considered joining the Binteeji Renmei and forgiving Windows 1.0-tan and in turn helping Lisa-tan but since that goes against so much of what Visi On-tan has gone through, proved to be very difficult.
It's kind of a shame too because that would have really helped Lisa-tan recover and Visi On-tan make some more really nice friends!
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Well OS/2-sama doesn't really bare any malice towards 1.0-chan or even 2.0-chan -- if anything she still considers 1.0-chan as a kind of stepmother. However, she too avoids seeing them if she can afford to, since they invoke too many memories that were once fond and are now painful.
So it is possible for Visi On-tan to see the vintage Windows-tans without having an angry OS/2-tan? It's also sad that OS/2-tan doesn't hate the vintage Windows-tans at all but avoids seeing them.
Thinking back on all of the good times she had with them, when life was a lot more peaceful and civil and comparing it to her experiences today would be painful :(
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And besides, the Windows Family are a whole separate entity and fair game as far as loathing is concerned. ^___~
That even applies to the freerange Windows-tans (3.2-tan, the 95 OSR 2-tans, Neptune-tan, Odyssey-tan and 97-tan), does it? 0__0
The Windows-tans of the Microsoft Family faction may have a lot of protection and security from the likes of the A$C but those wanderers are nearly defenseless!
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Hmmm... now that's a tough cookie to crack..... '___'
*ponders*
For maximum sap... I would probably say that no one among them knows that secret except C128-tan. Being the 2K-tan of the Commodore family at the time, she was probably more in-tune with the inner-happenings of the company, and closely monitored C65-tan's birth. It was her hope perhaps to give the young girl a surprise birthday party, while simultaneously presenting the joyous news to her other sisters.
So C128-tan was the only one who has met and known of C65-tan back then?
But I say, she has taken having a younger sister very well! (and maybe because of the C65's similiarities with the C128, I can theorize that C65-tan wanted to be like her known big sister! ^^)
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But after the horrible news of her banishment, she chose not to tell anyone about it -- with the company already in its last throes, she couldn't afford to drop morale even further.
Bummer :(
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Only after the company collapsed and she was free to roam the world as a Wanderer, did she make it her life's work to find her long-lost little sister, just to see what became of her.
*sniffle* That's sweet! I hope that they do reunite and C65-tan could be introduced to her older sisters and stepsister once and for all!
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The irony is that while she's been on her quest, C65-tan has probably scuffled with C64-tan and VIC20-tan several times, neither of them realizing they were blood relatives. ^___^;
Oh my... If they ever do have that Commodore family reunion, it would be very awkward to say the least!
"Oh... That crazy pirate girl I confronted was... One of my sisters?! AAAAAAH!"
"Awkward...."
Btw, I now know that C128-tan is the mature and dependable-type but is VIC20-tan like? I take it that she's quite aggressive?
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(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/C65tansketch.jpg)
Preconcept sketch of C65-tan!
Yaaaaaargh! She's a sailor cadet turned into a pirate! This is shown full size to be able to read the mini comic with C64-tan, C128-tan and C65-tan! According to the newly-implemented backstory, that scenario would not have been possible as C128-tan was the only one who knows of C65-tan but I couldn't resist! :D
That little scene takes place back when they were still at Commodore so they are all in full uniform! (based off of C-Chan's sketch of the Commodore-tans in uniform in 1985)
I'm not sure what eye color or hair color C65-tan would have. All I have planned out is that she has some apparent similarities with C64-tan and C128-tan.
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_VisiOntansketch.jpg)
Preconcept sketch of Visi On-tan!
Tried to make her look like a diva and a business woman. Not easy for me >__<
Near the bottom left of the picture is a little scene of her meeting the A$C for the first time! (I wanted to add in RISC OS-tan and eCS-tan as well but didn't have enough space -_-)
She is disgruntled and some form of paranoid; but she also has X-Ray vision, heat vision and the ability to shoot lasers from her eyes! :D
Oooh,... I'm gonna love replying to this.
Stand the Fantastic Plastic By.... @v@
Added after 11 hours 54 minutes: Oooh,... again, I left too little time to reply to these. I'll rush through them, then. ^___^'
QuoteSo it is possible for Visi On-tan to see the vintage Windows-tans without having an angry OS/2-tan? It's also sad that OS/2-tan doesn't hate the vintage Windows-tans at all but avoids seeing them.
Thinking back on all of the good times she had with them, when life was a lot more peaceful and civil and comparing it to her experiences today would be painful
In addition to that, it's also important to assume that OS/2-sama, deep down inside, also doesn't want to risk formenting a hatred towards them either, or worse, be hated by them for what she wants to do to their family. 1.0-chan especially could become hysterical if she sees OS/2-tan hurt any of her children, even if she hardly knows them.
QuoteThat even applies to the freerange Windows-tans (3.2-tan, the 95 OSR 2-tans, Neptune-tan, Odyssey-tan and 97-tan), does it? 0__0
The Windows-tans of the Microsoft Family faction may have a lot of protection and security from the likes of the A$C but those wanderers are nearly defenseless!
Yeeeeeeeeeep. ^^;
But they ARE tough, so I wouldn't worry too much about them. ^___^
If anything, they've all since wisened up to ways to avoid trouble as much as possible (or most of them, anyway...). ^.^'
QuoteSo C128-tan was the only one who has met and known of C65-tan back then?
But I say, she has taken having a younger sister very well! (and maybe because of the C65's similiarities with the C128, I can theorize that C65-tan wanted to be like her known big sister! ^^)
Well it really is just conjecture on my part,... but if you like it, I guess it's a done deal. ^^
Quote*sniffle* That's sweet! I hope that they do reunite and C65-tan could be introduced to her older sisters and stepsister once and for all!
You sure? After all, she is a bit nutty,....
Would make for more sap value if C128-tan, after finally finding her, fails to get C65-tan to acknowledge her as anything other than a rival. -.-
QuoteOh my... If they ever do have that Commodore family reunion, it would be very awkward to say the least!
"Oh... That crazy pirate girl I confronted was... One of my sisters?! AAAAAAH!"
"Awkward...."
More awkward if you consider that C65-tan would have to be tied down with ropes. ^______^'
Then again,... maybe this is too much sap. Maybe she does mellow out with a family reunion. ^.^
QuoteBtw, I now know that C128-tan is the mature and dependable-type but is VIC20-tan like? I take it that she's quite aggressive?
Correct, C128-tan, despite being the youngest TRUE Commodore-tan, is often confused as the eldest due to her appearance and calm disposition. I actually based her archtype on Zakuro from "Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan" (a very funny, but gorey and vulgar Anime), since she parallels C128-tan so well (especially in relation to her older, but younger-looking and "brattier" sisters.
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/11/9837.jpg)
And correct, VIC20-tan is a bit on the aggressive side, as she was modeled after turn-of-the-20th-century Doughboys and thus was involved in more land-based and close-quarter fighting than her sisters (who were all primarily naval captains). After the collapse of Commodore, she became as similarly cynical as Pilot-chan (minus the cussing), but instead chose to travel the world rather than stay in one spot (lamenting a past that few people bother to remember).
Originally I had no anime archtype for her,... but after seeing Venus Versus Virus, I actually think Laura would make a great archtype.
(http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/laura.jpg)
Small, youngish, fairly intimidating eyes (not as much as PET-chan's, though), not adverse to wielding large weaponry (although of course, she deals with more antiquated stuff). The only thing is that her hair would not be blonde at all -- more than likely a transitionary color between PETchan and C64-tan (like burgundy).
QuoteYaaaaaargh! She's a sailor cadet turned into a pirate! This is shown full size to be able to read the mini comic with C64-tan, C128-tan and C65-tan! According to the newly-implemented backstory, that scenario would not have been possible as C128-tan was the only one who knows of C65-tan but I couldn't resist!
Darn, I'm outta time. ;___;
But yeah, just wanted to say these sketches are Off-the-Hook! Adorable stuff! With her bandana, she reminds me a bit of Lime from the Saber Marionette series (and that's a good thing, as Lime-chan was a great,... and also wacky character!). ^^
And the mini comic is to die for, as all your microchibis are. ^.^
QuotePreconcept sketch of Visi On-tan!
Tried to make her look like a diva and a business woman. Not easy for me >__<
Near the bottom left of the picture is a little scene of her meeting the A$C for the first time! (I wanted to add in RISC OS-tan and eCS-tan as well but didn't have enough space -_-)
She is disgruntled and some form of paranoid; but she also has X-Ray vision, heat vision and the ability to shoot lasers from her eyes!
And likewise, Visi On-tan is a remarkable sketch as well -- surprisingly detailed at that! ^__^
Since I'm in the process of watching Shion no Ou, I should probably point out that she bears some resemblence to Saitou Ayumi from that series (probably cause of the hairstyle and keen expression). Not sure if Visi-tan would approve (given Ayumi's TRUE identity... ^^;), but it's a wonderful coincidence no less. ^.^
The "vision" attacks were very clever -- don't know why I didn't see them coming. ^v^
And the comic... damn! I insist you're trying to get me to blow up again. ^_____^
Don't think RISC-chan and eCS-chan would've been necessary -- it already has me ROFLing uncontrollably! ^V^
Good work as always, Aurora-hime. ^____^
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In addition to that, it's also important to assume that OS/2-sama, deep down inside, also doesn't want to risk formenting a hatred towards them either,
Aww... How could she possibly form a hatred towards Windows 1.0 and 2.0-chan? :( (I guess it must be because they are still relatives of the Windows family, although not typically associated with them)
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or worse, be hated by them for what she wants to do to their family. 1.0-chan especially could become hysterical if she sees OS/2-tan hurt any of her children, even if she hardly knows them.
Couldn't she just try and keep quiet about all of that and attempt to act civil? Or is that unfortunately much easier said than done?
Either way, it would be absolutely devestating if OS/2-tan and Windows 1.0-tan + 2.0-tan started hating each other! And to think that 1.0-tan still cares so much about her other children, grandchildren and uhh... NT-tan (who'd be a stepsister to the DOS-based Windows-tans, right? And that would make NT's descendants their step-cousins or something like that? Of course this is technically speaking...) despite that none of them even know she exists!
BTW, when exactly were 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan exiled? I know that they knew 3.0-tan/3.1-tan for a while but did they ever meet NT-tan or 95-tan?
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Yeeeeeeeeeep. ^^;
But they ARE tough, so I wouldn't worry too much about them. ^___^
If anything, they've all since wisened up to ways to avoid trouble as much as possible (or most of them, anyway...). ^.^'
I bet the exceptions to the wising up and avoiding trouble are 97-tan and 95 OSR 2.5-tan! :D
Speaking of 3.2-tan who was very briefly mentioned, she is 3.1-tan's twin sister who was taught Chinese and went to enter the Chinese computer market. But before her training, would she have ever met her twin and older relatives?
QuoteWell it really is just conjecture on my part,... but if you like it, I guess it's a done deal. ^^
I like it, and it explains why C65-tan would have gotten in scuffles against C64-tan and VIC20-tan- they did not know that C65-tan was really their sister because C128-tan never told them, so they thought that she was a bootleg!
QuoteYou sure? After all, she is a bit nutty,....
Would make for more sap value if C128-tan, after finally finding her, fails to get C65-tan to acknowledge her as anything other than a rival. -.-
I guess all that time away from her, as well as the clashes had with some of her other sisters would make C65-tan think of C128-tan as a rival too.
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More awkward if you consider that C65-tan would have to be tied down with ropes. ^______^'
Then again,... maybe this is too much sap. Maybe she does mellow out with a family reunion. ^.^
Aw darn I thought that would have a pretty cool reunion! Besides, tying her down would be at first the only way to get her to stay in the same room as her rivals/sisters! But after exchanging some awkward apologies, she'd be able to calm down and be able to get to know her other sisters for the first time!
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Correct, C128-tan, despite being the youngest TRUE Commodore-tan, is often confused as the eldest due to her appearance and calm disposition. I actually based her archtype on Zakuro from "Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan" (a very funny, but gorey and vulgar Anime), since she parallels C128-tan so well (especially in relation to her older, but younger-looking and "brattier" sisters.
http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/11/9837.jpg
And correct, VIC20-tan is a bit on the aggressive side, as she was modeled after turn-of-the-20th-century Doughboys and thus was involved in more land-based and close-quarter fighting than her sisters (who were all primarily naval captains). After the collapse of Commodore, she became as similarly cynical as Pilot-chan (minus the cussing), but instead chose to travel the world rather than stay in one spot (lamenting a past that few people bother to remember).
Originally I had no anime archtype for her,... but after seeing Venus Versus Virus, I actually think Laura would make a great archtype.
http://ostan-collections.net/annex/Images/laura.jpg
Small, youngish, fairly intimidating eyes (not as much as PET-chan's, though), not adverse to wielding large weaponry (although of course, she deals with more antiquated stuff). The only thing is that her hair would not be blonde at all -- more than likely a transitionary color between PETchan and C64-tan (like burgundy).
Cool! I hope to see them soon! Btw, do they still wear their old uniforms like PET-tan and C64-tan do?
Heh, I had a feeling that VIC20-tan would be cynical like Pilot-tan! ;012
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Darn, I'm outta time. ;___;
But yeah, just wanted to say these sketches are Off-the-Hook! Adorable stuff! With her bandana, she reminds me a bit of Lime from the Saber Marionette series (and that's a good thing, as Lime-chan was a great,... and also wacky character!). ^^
And the mini comic is to die for, as all your microchibis are. ^.^
Oh wow... She is a lot like Lime! An aggressive, pirate version of Lime! :D
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And likewise, Visi On-tan is a remarkable sketch as well -- surprisingly detailed at that! ^__^
Since I'm in the process of watching Shion no Ou, I should probably point out that she bears some resemblence to Saitou Ayumi from that series (probably cause of the hairstyle and keen expression). Not sure if Visi-tan would approve (given Ayumi's TRUE identity... ^^;), but it's a wonderful coincidence no less. ^.^
Another coincidence that works nicely!
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The "vision" attacks were very clever -- don't know why I didn't see them coming. ^v^
I at first struggled to think what kind of weapon she'd wield but suddenly the idea of the "vision" attacks came to me! :D
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And the comic... damn! I insist you're trying to get me to blow up again. ^_____^
Don't think RISC-chan and eCS-chan would've been necessary -- it already has me ROFLing uncontrollably! ^V^
Good work as always, Aurora-hime. ^____^
Thanks!
Yo Aurora-san. ^^
Almost done with my lull,... now just need to scrap up some time. ^.^
If I can't draw anything by Friday, I'll swallow my pride and issue cheap storyboards instead. At this point, I need to start doing something. -___-
QuoteCouldn't she just try and keep quiet about all of that and attempt to act civil? Or is that unfortunately much easier said than done?
Answered your own question, now.... ^___~
QuoteEither way, it would be absolutely devestating if OS/2-tan and Windows 1.0-tan + 2.0-tan started hating each other! And to think that 1.0-tan still cares so much about her other children, grandchildren and uhh... NT-tan (who'd be a stepsister to the DOS-based Windows-tans, right? And that would make NT's descendants their step-cousins or something like that? Of course this is technically speaking...) despite that none of them even know she exists!
In that case perhaps "hate" might not be the right word. Perhaps OS/2-tan is simply too scared of breaking their hearts. Even if they beg her to make peace with their family, that's impossible for OS/2-sama at this point in time.
QuoteBTW, when exactly were 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan exiled? I know that they knew 3.0-tan/3.1-tan for a while but did they ever meet NT-tan or 95-tan?
In the original preconcept stories I posted [buried somewhere in this thread], I suggested that the two were still around after NT-san and 95-an were born. But given the direction the company was already going in, the NT and 95 were pushed into training, indoctrination and conditioning almost immediately. Since mixing with their NON-belligerent relatives would've been counterproductive, it's likely neither pair was made to meet one another, except perhaps in some random passing along some random hallway. Especially in NT-san's case, she was not related at all and had less of a need to call them "mother" and "onee-san".
QuoteI bet the exceptions to the wising up and avoiding trouble are 97-tan and 95 OSR 2.5-tan!
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Weather still good out there, right? ^___^
QuoteSpeaking of 3.2-tan who was very briefly mentioned, she is 3.1-tan's twin sister who was taught Chinese and went to enter the Chinese computer market. But before her training, would she have ever met her twin and older relatives?
Your character, so I thought you could tell me. ^___^'
I would probably say no -- and in fact, given her distant upbringing, she's probably unaware that over half of her sisters/step-sisters exist at all. It doesn't help that a lot of the new Windows-tans she meets are bootleg-tans. If she were ever to meet the REAL XP-tan, her first impression of her would undoubtedly be that she's a fancy-looking bootleg. ^___^;
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I like it, and it explains why C65-tan would have gotten in scuffles against C64-tan and VIC20-tan- they did not know that C65-tan was really their sister because C128-tan never told them, so they thought that she was a bootleg!
And speaking of bootlegs,... yeah, that actually makes my hypothetical storyline sound more complete. ^.^
You got it! ^__^
QuoteI guess all that time away from her, as well as the clashes had with some of her other sisters would make C65-tan think of C128-tan as a rival too.
QuoteAw darn I thought that would have a pretty cool reunion! Besides, tying her down would be at first the only way to get her to stay in the same room as her rivals/sisters! But after exchanging some awkward apologies, she'd be able to calm down and be able to get to know her other sisters for the first time!
I imagine that before such a reunion could take place, C128-tan may have to willingly let herself be captured by C65-tan, since the latter simply refused to believe the story while C128-tan was still armed and dangerous. Not that she would believe anything C128-tan says outright, even while tied up in the brig, ready to walk the plank,... but at least the seeds of doubt would start softening up C65-chan to the truth.
An attack by the other Commodore sisters (perhaps with a little "air support" this time) later, would finally see all the Commodore girls together at last, with a freed C128-tan finally revealing the truth to the shock and bafflement of everyone else. ^^
QuoteCool! I hope to see them soon! Btw, do they still wear their old uniforms like PET-tan and C64-tan do?
Heh, I had a feeling that VIC20-tan would be cynical like Pilot-tan!
Actually no,... or rather, like the other two (and Amiga), they only wear leftover pieces of their old uniforms. VIC20-chan, having long worn her old uniform (and being a bad knitter) likely only wears her old, beaten Brodie helmet; while her replacement clothing still has a militaresque feel, its daintier and surprisingly stylish for her personality, contrasting too much with her old-fashioned, gritty headgear. It's a way of showing that, deep down inside, she wants to be more feminine and wants to be a part of modern life, but the memories of her past simply refuse to let her do that outright.
C128-tan may still have her dress cap and turndown-collar shirt, but has opted against wearing her coat out in the wild (especially since replacements are scarce); also, having grown used to living freely on her own, she likely wears a more casual-looking skirt, dark leggings, and a pair of comfortable shoes.
QuoteOh wow... She is a lot like Lime! An aggressive, pirate version of Lime!
Aha! Finally met someone here who's seen Saber Marionette. ^___^
Quote from: "C-Chan"Yo Aurora-san. ^^
Almost done with my lull,... now just need to scrap up some time. ^.^
If I can't draw anything by Friday, I'll swallow my pride and issue cheap storyboards instead. At this point, I need to start doing something. -___-
Although it is tough for you at the moment, I am glad that you'll still make some progress, one way or another!
QuoteQuoteCouldn't she just try and keep quiet about all of that and attempt to act civil? Or is that unfortunately much easier said than done?
Answered your own question, now.... ^___~
Is it the former or the latter?...
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In that case perhaps "hate" might not be the right word. Perhaps OS/2-tan is simply too scared of breaking their hearts. Even if they beg her to make peace with their family, that's impossible for OS/2-sama at this point in time.
...The latter! For maximum sap! *sniffle* OS/2-san is much better off avoiding them completely ;__;
QuoteIn the original preconcept stories I posted [buried somewhere in this thread], I suggested that the two were still around after NT-san and 95-an were born.
So it was just before the OS wars when they were exiled!
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But given the direction the company was already going in, the NT and 95 were pushed into training, indoctrination and conditioning almost immediately. Since mixing with their NON-belligerent relatives would've been counterproductive, it's likely neither pair was made to meet one another, except perhaps in some random passing along some random hallway. Especially in NT-san's case, she was not related at all and had less of a need to call them "mother" and "onee-san".
That sounds perfect! NT and 95 were trained from the start to fight against the competitors and I assume pillage their cities afterwards until they welcomed their new Windows overlords! Interacting with the 1.0 and 2.0-tans would have gotten in the way with that because aww... they are so sweet! However that exactly was why they were exiled- they couldn't carry out the scorched-earth tactics of their younger sister... And NT.
With both pairs of Windows-tans not meant to meet each other, as well as that 3.1-tan (who was only kept for being the first popular Windows) and MSDOS-tan (did she still have a little influence remaining?) were seperated from both pairs, the times couldn't have been good for them. It is their loneliness that most likely changed them to the ways they are now.
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Weather still good out there, right? ^___^
Yeah... HEY!! You did that again!
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Your character, so I thought you could tell me. ^___^'
I would probably say no -- and in fact, given her distant upbringing, she's probably unaware that over half of her sisters/step-sisters exist at all. It doesn't help that a lot of the new Windows-tans she meets are bootleg-tans. If she were ever to meet the REAL XP-tan, her first impression of her would undoubtedly be that she's a fancy-looking bootleg. ^___^;
I was unsure but I now know that when in doubt, go with the sappiest and most dramatic scenarios!
I guess 3.2-tan was a wanderer from the start! She would have met and does know some of her real relatives (the ones that are also wanderers) but more often encounters bootleg-tans than not. And given that these bootlegs she has fought against are mostly (if not all) imitations of the Windows-tans of the Microsoft Family, she might not want to meet the originals :(
Did I mention that she fought some bootlegs? :D Don't be fooled by 3.2-tan's dainty and cheerful appearance, she is tough and a skilled survivalist and takes pride in those things.
Too bad she couldn't reunite with the rest of her family (especially her twin sister) because it would be so incredibly awkward- maybe even more so than the Commodore-tan family reunion!
3.1-tan would end up mistaking 3.2-tan herself for a bootleg while 3.2-tan mistakes the other real Windows-tans as bootlegs! XD
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And speaking of bootlegs,... yeah, that actually makes my hypothetical storyline sound more complete. ^.^
You got it! ^__^
Yippee! ^_^
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I imagine that before such a reunion could take place, C128-tan may have to willingly let herself be captured by C65-tan, since the latter simply refused to believe the story while C128-tan was still armed and dangerous. Not that she would believe anything C128-tan says outright, even while tied up in the brig, ready to walk the plank,... but at least the seeds of doubt would start softening up C65-chan to the truth.
An attack by the other Commodore sisters (perhaps with a little "air support" this time) later, would finally see all the Commodore girls together at last, with a freed C128-tan finally revealing the truth to the shock and bafflement of everyone else. ^^
That is epic! C128-tan risking her life against her younger sister who used to like her but has long gone crazy, while the other sisters call in an air raid against C65-tan's ship!
I'd like to add in a few things to that (for maximum sap!): Just before that air raid was called, C65-tan sees the error of her ways and frees C128-tan, not daring to hurt her only sister who has known her and cared for her.
And right after the air raid was first called, C65-tan escorts C128-tan out of the ship into plain view where they see the other Commodore sisters at the front lines. C128-tan says that the Commodore sisters are all together at last.
While PET-tan, VIC20-tan and C64-tan are shocked and baffled by this at first, C128-tan explains everything (including that it was C65-tan who then decided to free her, and that all of these conflicts were very unfortunate misunderstandings in the first place) and C65-tan appologizes to everyone. The other sisters realizing how the conflicts were all misunderstandings, they also appologize to her as well and they all get to know each other for real for the first time!
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Actually no,... or rather, like the other two (and Amiga), they only wear leftover pieces of their old uniforms.
Oh... That's what I meant. ^^;
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VIC20-chan, having long worn her old uniform (and being a bad knitter) likely only wears her old, beaten Brodie helmet; while her replacement clothing still has a militaresque feel, its daintier and surprisingly stylish for her personality, contrasting too much with her old-fashioned, gritty headgear. It's a way of showing that, deep down inside, she wants to be more feminine and wants to be a part of modern life, but the memories of her past simply refuse to let her do that outright.
C128-tan may still have her dress cap and turndown-collar shirt, but has opted against wearing her coat out in the wild (especially since replacements are scarce); also, having grown used to living freely on her own, she likely wears a more casual-looking skirt, dark leggings, and a pair of comfortable shoes.
Cool! I like those ideas! Could I help you out and sketch them?
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Aha! Finally met someone here who's seen Saber Marionette. ^___^
Actually, no I haven't. I'm such a phony!! :(
QuoteThat sounds perfect! NT and 95 were trained from the start to fight against the competitors and I assume pillage their cities afterwards until they welcomed their new Windows overlords! Interacting with the 1.0 and 2.0-tans would have gotten in the way with that because aww... they are so sweet! However that exactly was why they were exiled- they couldn't carry out the scorched-earth tactics of their younger sister... And NT.
And, for the sake of prestige, a lot of elements of the old Microsoft era had to be disposed of or rewritten, to avoid embarrasment and blur Prior Art (so they can claim patents on technology stolen elsewhere). That included any references to Altair, dealings with QDOS-tan, Xenix-sama's service, OS/2-tan's upbringing, and of course the old Windows-tans. Maybe in a few more years, that trend might sweep up to more contemporary family members -- after all, no one wants to remember MS BOB-chan, and it seems about time to retire MSDOS-chan.
QuoteWith both pairs of Windows-tans not meant to meet each other, as well as that 3.1-tan (who was only kept for being the first popular Windows) and MSDOS-tan (did she still have a little influence remaining?) were seperated from both pairs, the times couldn't have been good for them. It is their loneliness that most likely changed them to the ways they are now.
It's really more the exile that has shaped them to be the way they are now (or more specifically, just 2.0-chan -- 1.0-chan literally never changes). However, it was living alone and sidelined in the fledgling Windows empire that made 2.0-chan more vocal about the unnerving changes going on, and in doing so she might have inadvertently stepped on a few toes.
At least MSDOS-chan still had leverage in that she was still a revenue source at the time, and could still protest and have her voice heard (somewhat) without fear of being kicked out. But no one used 1.0-chan or 2.0-chan anymore,.... so their presence became more and more "annoying" overtime.
QuoteDid I mention that she fought some bootlegs? Don't be fooled by 3.2-tan's dainty and cheerful appearance, she is tough and a skilled survivalist and takes pride in those things.
Certainly didn't doubt it. She kinda reminds me a little of Meilin from Card Captor Sakura -- or at least a 3.1-sama version of her. ^___^
Quote3.1-tan would end up mistaking 3.2-tan herself for a bootleg while 3.2-tan mistakes the other real Windows-tans as bootlegs! XD
Now you see why bootlegs are bad! They cause family disunity! ^.^
Probably should note that bootlegs simply don't exist among the Linux-tans. You mention bootleg to them, and they just look down at their feet wondering what the heck you're talking about. ^____^;
QuoteThat is epic! C128-tan risking her life against her younger sister who used to like her but has long gone crazy, while the other sisters call in an air raid against C65-tan's ship!
I'd like to add in a few things to that (for maximum sap!): Just before that air raid was called, C65-tan sees the error of her ways and frees C128-tan, not daring to hurt her only sister who has known her and cared for her.
That sounds like a nice way to refine the premise. ^__^
I should probably clarify, though, that I don't see any of them fighting with their original armadas. C65-tan's pirate ship is probably as ragtag as she is, and the other Commodore sisters can't afford to buy back any of their old company vessels, so they probably improvise. No doubt using the Binteji Renmei's fishing boat, flying their Colors quilted together on the fly by the younger Vintage-tans, and arming it with something not much stronger than a potato cannon. (cause cannon shells cost money, you know!)
The "air raid" is actually just their fancy term for getting Amiga-chan to convince Pilot-chan to help them defeat the crazy pirate girl once and for all. The Lewis Guns are in the shop (have been stuck there for years) and there's no money for bombs, so Pilot-chan too has to improvise. Probably with homemade "pom-poms", not necessarily lethal (but perhaps a bit disgusting). ^^;
I'd like the scene to have a very light-hearted Studio Ghibli feel, although since C128-tan is locked away with nothing but the sounds to guide her (and with no knowledge of their prior skirmishes), she would think there's some horrible carnage going on.
QuoteCool! I like those ideas! Could I help you out and sketch them?
I still feel kinda bad that I seem to be making you do most of the hard work. But yeah sure, I think that'd be great and I should at least make the effort to help you color map them. ^^
QuoteActually, no I haven't. I'm such a phony!!
GAAAH!! Xvx
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Well if you're ever interested, it's a great (albeit underrated series) that might be available in a cheap bundles at your local retail entertainment store. There's Saber Marionette J, J Again, J-to-X, and its prequel-sequel "R" (that's a little grittier). ^^
Quote from: "C-Chan"And, for the sake of prestige, a lot of elements of the old Microsoft era had to be disposed of or rewritten, to avoid embarrasment and blur Prior Art (so they can claim patents on technology stolen elsewhere). That included any references to Altair, dealings with QDOS-tan, Xenix-sama's service, OS/2-tan's upbringing, and of course the old Windows-tans. Maybe in a few more years, that trend might sweep up to more contemporary family members -- after all, no one wants to remember MS BOB-chan, and it seems about time to retire MSDOS-chan.
MS BOB-tan! How could I forget her?! She was the caretaker of 3.1-tan and 95-tan and OSR 2.1-tan! 3.1-tan and 95-tan do not speak of her anymore for being disgraceful to the company and OSR 2.1-tan was too young to remember her. MS BOB-tan wasn't exiled but ran away from home with the intent to never return. Oh, and OSR 2.1-tan also ran away from home because MS BOB-tan did.
And there's the possibility of retiring MS DOS-tan?!
The dealing with QDOS-tan I understand slightly: MS DOS is based off of QDOS which M$ bought from another company, but how does that translate into the OS-tan backstories?
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It's really more the exile that has shaped them to be the way they are now (or more specifically, just 2.0-chan -- 1.0-chan literally never changes). However, it was living alone and sidelined in the fledgling Windows empire that made 2.0-chan more vocal about the unnerving changes going on, and in doing so she might have inadvertently stepped on a few toes.
Being exiled from a once caring family to live as a wanderer during the OS wars and not able to make any OS-tan friends because they were all busy fighting and/or trying to survive and had something against them just for being Windows-tans... I'm at a loss for words to express how terribly sad that is, but it were those things that left poor 2.0-chan mentally scarred and uhh... 1.0-tan is just oblivious at a first glance (but I'm sure that she was as frightened as 2.0-tan was)
I should have been a little more clear but whne I said "the times couldn't have been good for them", I was refering to 3.1-tan and MS DOS-tan for being sidelined so much (because well, the fact those were certainly not good times for 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan!)
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At least MSDOS-chan still had leverage in that she was still a revenue source at the time, and could still protest and have her voice heard (somewhat) without fear of being kicked out. But no one used 1.0-chan or 2.0-chan anymore,.... so their presence became more and more "annoying" overtime.
They wouldn't dare exile one of their money makers!
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Now you see why bootlegs are bad! They cause family disunity! ^.^
Especially in the scenario that the Windows-tans were doing something in the outskirts of town and suddenly got seperated from each other, to find someone who only
looks like one of their sisters but malicious! o_o
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Probably should note that bootlegs simply don't exist among the Linux-tans. You mention bootleg to them, and they just look down at their feet wondering what the heck you're talking about. ^____^;
"Boots? But I'm wearing sandals!"
"Huh? What about my boots?"
"I'm wearing high-heels, hee hee!"
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That sounds like a nice way to refine the premise. ^__^
I should probably clarify, though, that I don't see any of them fighting with their original armadas. C65-tan's pirate ship is probably as ragtag as she is, and the other Commodore sisters can't afford to buy back any of their old company vessels, so they probably improvise. No doubt using the Binteji Renmei's fishing boat, flying their Colors quilted together on the fly by the younger Vintage-tans, and arming it with something not much stronger than a potato cannon. (cause cannon shells cost money, you know!)
I forgot that the other Vintage-tans would be involved! After all, two of the Commodore-tans and their stepsister are in the Binteeji Renmei! ^^;
Even if the confrontation uses entirely improvised weapons and such, it is still epic! And I'm sure that a potato cannon could still inflict moderate damage against an old wooden ship ;012
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The "air raid" is actually just their fancy term for getting Amiga-chan to convince Pilot-chan to help them defeat the crazy pirate girl once and for all. The Lewis Guns are in the shop (have been stuck there for years) and there's no money for bombs, so Pilot-chan too has to improvise. Probably with homemade "pom-poms", not necessarily lethal (but perhaps a bit disgusting). ^^;
What Lewis Guns and these homemade pom-poms?
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I'd like the scene to have a very light-hearted Studio Ghibli feel, although since C128-tan is locked away with nothing but the sounds to guide her (and with no knowledge of their prior skirmishes), she would think there's some horrible carnage going on.
Yaaaar! The troublesome girl got hauled to the brig!
After the whole conflict gets resolved for the better, is there the possibility of the other Commodore-tans joining the Binteeji Renmei?
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I still feel kinda bad that I seem to be making you do most of the hard work. But yeah sure, I think that'd be great and I should at least make the effort to help you color map them. ^^
That is okay! You've helped me out many times with difficult things so I am just happily offering to return the favor!
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GAAAH!! Xvx
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Well if you're ever interested, it's a great (albeit underrated series) that might be available in a cheap bundles at your local retail entertainment store. There's Saber Marionette J, J Again, J-to-X, and its prequel-sequel "R" (that's a little grittier). ^^
Yeah, I don't watch a lot of anime aside from what's on Cartoon Network and Toonami (with a few exceptions). I KNOW I am missing out on some really great stuff like Saber Marionette which I am interested in :( (anime DVDs are hard to come by in my area and I cannot buy anything online)
Preconcept sketches of VIC20-tan and C128-tan!
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_VIC20_C128tanpreconcepts.jpg)
VIC20-tan has a "military lolita" look to her as a way to combine military style with a dainty and feminine look- I decided on elements from the "lolita" fashion that is highly popular in Japan because the VIC20 was first released in Japan. (I tried to draw her in a kimono-like outfit at first but it just didn't work)
C128-tan wears something more casual but I am at an almost complete loss for how to draw her outfit :(
Still needs color-mapping, addition of details and logos (which I failed to add on C128-tan. Although on VIC20-tan, the trim at the bottom of her jacket is in the colors of the rainbow VIC20 logo)
AAAAAAAAAH!!!!!! AURORA-HIME, YOU'RE WONDERFUL!!!!! ^V^
I admit, I was expecting to work solely on the Zerosanity Xmas comic during the weekend, and as you can imagine I didn't because the C-chan sucks. But this time it was for a good reason.... ^^
When I saw your sketches based on their modern-day attire that I described, I absolutely LOVED them. But in addition to that, inspiration finally hit me like a lightning bolt! ^o^
Not wanting to let it slide this time -- and realizing that some of my best works were done on the fly, without any planning -- I dropped everything and worked on the picture of VIC20-tan and C128-tan that was coming to me literally in a vision!
I was rusty, had to use a base image to kickstart the anatomy and skirt folding, spent an unhealthy amount of time experimenting with color mapping, and [as usual] haven't added any shading yet.
But thanks to you, I think I finally have what could very well be her final appearance! ^o^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/VIC20-C128.png)
Maybe the colors do need some more work, but I think they're original. The top portion of her, from the tunic onwards, is colored after the original VIC-20 unit. The cute fixings in her lower body are based off the Commodore logo.
While I said before that only her Brodie Helmet was leftover from her old Commodore days, I was sufficiently impressed with your "military lolita" approach that I decided that her tunic IS also a leftover from her combat days (and even added some ammo pouches and an insignia to her right arm). No doubt she used to wear slacks and strapped boots in typical "doughboy" style, but has since switched to something more dainty and feminine (although the bayonet sheath under her skirt, and the M1903 Springfield rifle on her shoulder, is a good way to keep the pedobears away).
I'm sure her eyes speak for themselves as far as her personality goes. Physically, though, she's still technically a child-type and is lonly 143cm (hence why he rifle looks so much bigger than it is).
If you'd like to help me with some shading, I've attached the Sauce. I think it'd be great, since I'll be able to work on C128-tan immediately (w/ a special C65-tan "cameo"). ^______^
Added after 39 minutes: QuoteMS BOB-tan! How could I forget her?! She was the caretaker of 3.1-tan and 95-tan and OSR 2.1-tan! 3.1-tan and 95-tan do not speak of her anymore for being disgraceful to the company and OSR 2.1-tan was too young to remember her. MS BOB-tan wasn't exiled but ran away from home with the intent to never return. Oh, and OSR 2.1-tan also ran away from home because MS BOB-tan did.
Fufufu... more pages of OS-tan history get written. ^___^
OSR 2.1-sama's story could probably be a very interesting one. No doubt she wouldn't have survived a day all alone in such a hostile environment at the time, if not for her uncanny ability to think outside the box. ^^
QuoteAnd there's the possibility of retiring MS DOS-tan?!
Well in RL, MS-DOS has been retired years ago. It's only natural that, sooner or later, her presence (and reminder of the past) will start to grow more inconvenient, especially now that she offers nothing of value to the post-Vista generation.
QuoteThe dealing with QDOS-tan I understand slightly: MS DOS is based off of QDOS which M$ bought from another company, but how does that translate into the OS-tan backstories?
Quite simply,....
- M$ adopted the newborn QDOS-chan.
- M$ played with her for a few days.
- M$ made two clones off of her and shuttled them away.
- M$ dumped her, now that they had what they really wanted.
And she's fended for herself ever since -- and with no one to develop her further, her growth and mind were horrifically stunted. Even DRDOS-tan (then CP/M-tan) wouldn't acknowledge her until many years later, when she started thinking for herself and stopped viewing her "daughters" as competition.
QuoteBeing exiled from a once caring family to live as a wanderer during the OS wars and not able to make any OS-tan friends because they were all busy fighting and/or trying to survive and had something against them just for being Windows-tans... I'm at a loss for words to express how terribly sad that is, but it were those things that left poor 2.0-chan mentally scarred and uhh... 1.0-tan is just oblivious at a first glance (but I'm sure that she was as frightened as 2.0-tan was)
Well true there were things that frightened 1.0-san (explosions and stuff), but she did it more as a fear of 2.0-chan's sake (or that of her family portrait) rather than for her own.
QuoteEspecially in the scenario that the Windows-tans were doing something in the outskirts of town and suddenly got seperated from each other, to find someone who only looks like one of their sisters but malicious!
Sounds like a tactic the virus-tans would use. ^__~
Quote"Boots? But I'm wearing sandals!"
"Huh? What about my boots?"
"I'm wearing high-heels, hee hee!"
BWAHAHAHA!!! That's right. ^.^
QuoteI forgot that the other Vintage-tans would be involved! After all, two of the Commodore-tans and their stepsister are in the Binteeji Renmei! ^^;
Even if the confrontation uses entirely improvised weapons and such, it is still epic! And I'm sure that a potato cannon could still inflict moderate damage against an old wooden ship
Fufufu... Indeed, but I think they wouldn't have used potatoes after all, since the vintage-tans would be on a tight budget and adverse to wasting staple food.
On the other hand,... there could be a surplus of papaya on hand.... ^.^
QuoteWhat Lewis Guns and these homemade pom-poms?
A Lewis Gun is an old-fashioned machine gun that used to be very popular as improvised biplane gun mounts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_gun
Although the X-Star isn't a biplane, Pilot-chan did modify it slightly to make use of that gun (pulled off one of her old biplanes before she had to sell it).
Unfortunately, it's been broken for a while, and with the replacement parts as expensive as they are, she's still trying to earn enough money to buy them.
Actually, nevermind the pom poms (I think I was thinking of something else). With such a rickety pirate ship, she doesn't need explosives -- just really heavy things to drop below. Perhaps some of the garbage bags Amiga and FreeDOS-chan puppy-eyed her into taking away. And if she ever runs out,........ she could always just drop PCDOS-chan. ^^;
QuoteAfter the whole conflict gets resolved for the better, is there the possibility of the other Commodore-tans joining the Binteeji Renmei?
Well C128-tan finally finds her long-lost little sister, so there's no need for her to wander the world.
VIC20-chan might be stubborn, but she might find she gets along well with Pilot-chan (and perhaps a few others like ITS-sama or Amstrad-tan). Plus VIC20-chan is unusually revered by the Linux-tans (especially the older ones protecting the Binteji Renmei), and probably warms up to the feeling of being wanted again.
QuoteThat is okay! You've helped me out many times with difficult things so I am just happily offering to return the favor!
As always, thank you very much for that, and for all your hardwork! ^__^
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Quote from: "C-Chan"AAAAAAAAAH!!!!!! AURORA-HIME, YOU'RE WONDERFUL!!!!! ^V^
I admit, I was expecting to work solely on the Zerosanity Xmas comic during the weekend, and as you can imagine I didn't because the C-chan sucks. But this time it was for a good reason.... ^^
When I saw your sketches based on their modern-day attire that I described, I absolutely LOVED them. But in addition to that, inspiration finally hit me like a lightning bolt! ^o^
Not wanting to let it slide this time -- and realizing that some of my best works were done on the fly, without any planning -- I dropped everything and worked on the picture of VIC20-tan and C128-tan that was coming to me literally in a vision!
Thanks! Although still looking forward to the ZS Xmas special, I really really like work you've done on VIC20-tan! And even better that the present day designs for VIC20-tan and C128-tan came to you so quickly! (I confess that I really struggled to think of something x__x)
I've seen some fantastic works from you that were drawn without any planning, like the C64+Amiga portraiture!
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I was rusty, had to use a base image to kickstart the anatomy and skirt folding, spent an unhealthy amount of time experimenting with color mapping, and [as usual] haven't added any shading yet.
But thanks to you, I think I finally have what could very well be her final appearance! ^o^
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/VIC20-C128.png
She's so cute!! I'd want to glomp her but seeing that bayonet and gun, I'm keeping my distance...
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Maybe the colors do need some more work, but I think they're original. The top portion of her, from the tunic onwards, is colored after the original VIC-20 unit. The cute fixings in her lower body are based off the Commodore logo.
While I said before that only her Brodie Helmet was leftover from her old Commodore days, I was sufficiently impressed with your "military lolita" approach that I decided that her tunic IS also a leftover from her combat days (and even added some ammo pouches and an insignia to her right arm). No doubt she used to wear slacks and strapped boots in typical "doughboy" style, but has since switched to something more dainty and feminine (although the bayonet sheath under her skirt, and the M1903 Springfield rifle on her shoulder, is a good way to keep the pedobears away).
Good call on keeping her military tunic! The fact that she still has her helmet and tunic really help with the military-chic/military lolita look that was intended! The mismatched shoes and socks actually work out very nicely! And if Something Awful-tan and the other members of the Fashion SWAT beg to differ, VIC20-tan's got that bayonet and big gun! :D
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I'm sure her eyes speak for themselves as far as her personality goes. Physically, though, she's still technically a child-type and is lonly 143cm (hence why he rifle looks so much bigger than it is).
She tough and cute! She's small but with a big attitude and gun to boot!
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If you'd like to help me with some shading, I've attached the Sauce. I think it'd be great, since I'll be able to work on C128-tan immediately (w/ a special C65-tan "cameo"). ^______^
Sure! I'll help!
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Fufufu... more pages of OS-tan history get written. ^___^
OSR 2.1-sama's story could probably be a very interesting one. No doubt she wouldn't have survived a day all alone in such a hostile environment at the time, if not for her uncanny ability to think outside the box. ^^
The reasons that OSR 2.1-tan left are really sad. Having not yet outgrown the need for MS BOB-tan, she did not find her to be annoying and liked her so she was devestated when MS BOB-tan left for being a failure. Since OSR 2.1-tan was to bring USB support to the Windows family but did not do a good job at it, she left because she failed what she was supposed to do and while being a wanderer, she was hoping to stumble upon encountering MS BOB-tan again.
Incidentally, OSR 2.5 was still not very good at USB support either. Now I wonder why OSR 2.5-tan left...
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Well in RL, MS-DOS has been retired years ago. It's only natural that, sooner or later, her presence (and reminder of the past) will start to grow more inconvenient, especially now that she offers nothing of value to the post-Vista generation.
Well, that's sad and it's a bummer that not very many of the Windows-tans will miss her when she does get kicked out, but on the bright side, she'd be able to join the Binteeji Renmei and reunite with PC DOS-tan, Windows 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan!
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Quite simply,....
- M$ adopted the newborn QDOS-chan.
- M$ played with her for a few days.
- M$ made two clones off of her and shuttled them away.
- M$ dumped her, now that they had what they really wanted.
And she's fended for herself ever since -- and with no one to develop her further, her growth and mind were horrifically stunted. Even DRDOS-tan (then CP/M-tan) wouldn't acknowledge her until many years later, when she started thinking for herself and stopped viewing her "daughters" as competition.
Oh my gawd! That is just awful of them! Using a poor little girl at her expense for their own gain to get rid of her soon after! That is just so wrong! No wonder why that is kept a secret!
I didn't know that QDOS-chan's physical and mental growth were severely stunted! I thought she just a little scatterbrained and was so short for being a very minimalist DOS!
It's also a shame that it also took so long for DR DOS-tan to acknowledge and start caring for her because the damage to QDOS-chan was already long done. Glad that DR DOS-tan changed her ways but I wish I could have said better late than never.
QuoteWell true there were things that frightened 1.0-san (explosions and stuff), but she did it more as a fear of 2.0-chan's sake (or that of her family portrait) rather than for her own.
Ohh.. She was mainly scared of what was happening to 2.0-chan!
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Sounds like a tactic the virus-tans would use. ^__~
You're right! And there are plenty of Windows virus-tans around to take advantage of seperation and all the bootlegs! o_o
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Fufufu... Indeed, but I think they wouldn't have used potatoes after all, since the vintage-tans would be on a tight budget and adverse to wasting staple food.
On the other hand,... there could be a surplus of papaya on hand.... ^.^
Don't want to waste staple food! Something less pratical like papaya would be a good alternative!
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A Lewis Gun is an old-fashioned machine gun that used to be very popular as improvised biplane gun mounts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_gun
Those are cool!
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Although the X-Star isn't a biplane, Pilot-chan did modify it slightly to make use of that gun (pulled off one of her old biplanes before she had to sell it).
She is resourceful and not only a great pilot, but also a great plane mechanic!
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Unfortunately, it's been broken for a while, and with the replacement parts as expensive as they are, she's still trying to earn enough money to buy them.
That's going to be tough...
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Actually, nevermind the pom poms (I think I was thinking of something else). With such a rickety pirate ship, she doesn't need explosives -- just really heavy things to drop below. Perhaps some of the garbage bags Amiga and FreeDOS-chan puppy-eyed her into taking away. And if she ever runs out,........ she could always just drop PCDOS-chan. ^^;
That did sound weird to me because when I think of pom poms, I think of those things that the cheerleaders use! ;012
And if she runs out of trash to drop, she can drop someone who talks trash! Okay, so Pilot-chan is the trash-talker but I'm sure that PC DOS-tan may be as well because of her own hardship, sharp wit, sharp tongue and cynicism! (and besides, Pilot-chan is the pilot!)
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Well C128-tan finally finds her long-lost little sister, so there's no need for her to wander the world.
Yeah! When C128-tan will have succeeded in her life-long goal as a wanderer, being able to reunite with and befriend C65-tan, they can finally settle down in the Binteeji Renmei!
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VIC20-chan might be stubborn, but she might find she gets along well with Pilot-chan (and perhaps a few others like ITS-sama or Amstrad-tan). Plus VIC20-chan is unusually revered by the Linux-tans (especially the older ones protecting the Binteji Renmei), and probably warms up to the feeling of being wanted again.
I knew it would take more time for VIC20-tan to be willing to join but be able to find some friends. Hmm... *attempts to establish a connection*
Pilot-chan is cynical and may have endured similar hardships, ITS-sama was a rebel, Amstrad-tan I'm not sure about though. Was she another rebel? And her reverence among the Linux-tans is really interesting but I'm stumped!
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Got to work on the VIC20-tan picture and got most of the shading done! Here is revision 1:
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Oooh,... outta time, but just wanted to say thank you for helping me shade VIC20-chan! Indeed, seeing your contribution, there was no doubt in my mind that you knew right away the kind of deep shading that would be needed, since the light source is coming from slightly behind her. ^.^
I updated the revision just a little, to deepen some of the shading a bit (especially on her face and legs), where very little light reaches them. All in all, though, since you're graciously working on this, I'll try to focus on whipping up C128-san as fast as I can. ^.^
Thanks again! I'll respond to the other stuff soon! ^___^
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QuoteVisi On-tan
info:
http://toastytech.com/guis/vision.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiOn
technical details:
-a short-lived but influential GUI OS
-made and priced for high-end corporate workstations, also able to work with IBM PC compatibles running MS DOS
-ported to other OSes, such as C/PM or Unix (and has a Unix-based development environment)
-never popular due to high cost (up to $7,500) and minimum requirements (512 KB of RAM,a 5 MB hard drive) and slow performance
-influenced the development of Windows
-advanced for its time with many modern GUI features, even some that did not become commonplace until years later
-did not include a graphical file manager though
-was a huge success at its first demonstrations in 1982
-was supposed to be released in the summer of 1983 but wasn't released until December. Was already being declared vaporware
-during development, VisiCorp was under 'corporate civil war'
-recieved largely negative reviews after release, some claimed VisiOn to be 'the end of operating systems'
-Visi On sold to another company in 1984, never heard from again
character descriptions and backstory: A diva, aristocrat and business woman. In her youth she never mingled with the home users or home computer OS-tans. However, she did work with the Unices, DR-DOS-tan and MS-DOS-tan and admired Lisa-tan (another very high-end business OS).
She was a great success before her official release, in her first appearance to the public in 1982 and her future looked very promising. She was expected to make her official debut in the summer of 1983 but was delayed until December. During that time, people were already counting her out before she had a chance (which angered her a lot). Also during this time, her company was under a civil war which was emotionally scarring to her.
When she finally made her official release, the people were unimpressed and she got a lot of negative reviews. Despite being advanced in most ways, she was slow, demanding and picky. Another cause of her demise was the announcement of Windows in late 1983, which was said to have driven many of Visi On-tan's customers away. She was sold to another company in 1984 but was not heard from again or just no one cared. (however she is still alive)
And the worst part... *GASP* She has a vendetta against Windows 1.0-tan! (who herself was unremarkable and unsuccessful but still was a factor in the highly advanced Visi On-tan's demise, adding insult to injury here) Oh yeah, she's not fond of the other Windows-tans either. While her dislike for the Windows-tans does not runas deeply as OS/2-tan's hatred for them, Visi On-tan still got screwed over pretty badly! She strongly admires the Anti$oft Coalition.
Visi On-tan is however, friendly with the Unices as well as DR-DOS-tan. (I can also imagine her being friendly with IMSAI 8080-tan; a fellow formerly powerful business woman who suffered a similar fate to her) She also likes and has empathy for MS-DOS-tan (who back in the good ol' days was powerful, confident and influential, now these days just that shy little girl no one really notices anymore and is the unofficial house servant of the M$ Family) and wants to help her but cannot when all of those Windows-tans are there too!
personality-wise, she is disgruntled, homesick (but knowing that she can never return to her parent company) and thinks the everything and almost everyone has conspired against her. However she does cheer up in the company of those she is friendly with, knowing that there are still a few people who care.
I'm not sure if she would be in the CIOST or a wanderer. Her personality makes her fit in with the CIOST pretty well, but she is or at least was a diva who wouldn't consider fighting- she'd have one of her security people do that for her. But living on her own, she may have toughened up over the years and has learned to fight.
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And a really obscure Commodore-tan, Commodore 65-tan!
technical details:
-a prototype that was to be improved version of the Commodore 64
-development started in 1990, cancelled in 1991
-meant to have backwards compatibility with the C64 as well as have advanced features like those of the Amiga
-was never officially released, but the C65 prototypes were sold on the open market after Commodore's demise in 1994
-has a 3.54 MHz processor (much faster compared to the C64's 1 MHz)
-128 KB RAM expandable to 8 MB
-used Commodore Basic 10.0
-an internal 3.25" floppy drive was to be implemented but never was
character details: Appearance-wise, she has some resemblance to C64-tan but the biggest differences include the fact that C65-tan is considerably taller (I'd say in the upper 5' range), very clunky, and dressed like a pirate. She'd be dressed like a pirate because the C65 was never officially released but the prototypes were sold on the open market. She'd also be very determined and stubborn, still getting out into the world despite her disadvantages and not letting them get her down. She is seen as an inspiration to some, others... as insane. For affiliation, most likely a wanderer.
Oh wow, a few news characters! And very interesting ones at that!
Visi On-tan seems pretty interesting, and it's cool that the A$C has FINALLY gotten a new member! Good find, as I had never heard of this OS, nor would have thought of half the things you did.
And I love her design, too.
As for C65-tan...yours and C-Chan's design is PURE WIN! I love the Military Lolita look, it's awesome (I am a fan of both Military and Lolita looks, BTW). Cool character backstory, as well! ;010
QuoteSo most of the time, server farms are better than mainframes!
But mainframes are awesome! :P
QuoteFufufu! Why does everyone think UNIX-sama is some kinda monster? ^___^'
I mean,... okay she is a little.... *dodges boots*.... but in the case of EXEC-sama, there are two primary drivers in play:
1) EXEC-sama is older than Grandma CTSS even! Her efforts to vanquish Multics-sama and GECOS-sama notwithstanding, UNIX-sama still acknowledges a small bit of respect to her elders. ^________^
2) UNIX-sama is old as well. You know, "birds of a feather", having something more in common than with the other "kids". This is also the reason why, prior to GENIAC-chan, she'd spend most of her time having long conversations with ITS-sama, who at least is old enough to remember magnetic tapes. ^__^
You make me wonder...would Unix-sama have ever met CTSS-sama...? Cause it's been said that Unix and CTSS shared more similarities than Unix and Multics, in some cases....
Would make for a ton of sap, as Unix-sama would be meeting the one person who was, for all intents and purposes, more akin to her than Multics-sama was; yet cared for Multics-sama with all her heart and was crushed to see what Unix-sama did to her...maybe it's because CTSS-sama died in 1973 (still quite early in Unix-sama's life), but I've never really thought of their interactions until now.
QuoteFufu... reading the encyclopedia entry, I kinda figured she'd be a huge Lisa-tan admirer. I imagine she and Lisa-chan would be like old-fashioned aristocratic friends -- elegantly and courteously poking fun at eachother over fine tea and pâtisserie.
Actually, that could add an element of modern despair (oh noes! here comes more sap!)....
She views Lisa-chan as her senior and always admirered her strength -- but seeing her now in the state that she's in is rather devastating, and only strengthens her resolve that the entire world is conspiring against her.
Add again the fact that Windows 1.0-chan is not only NEAR her, but actually a close friend to Lisa-chan, and that's enough to send the poor Visi-tan's brain reeling.
Oh, I can see the two as buddies...both were ambitious and influencial, but failures all in all...
QuoteWell the CIOST is getting a little full....
And since she does sound a lot like an older OS/2-sama, and strongly admires the A$C,... hell, why not induct another member? ^___^
She's in the company of OS/2-sama (a fellow Windows resenter), has the older TRSDOS-chan to reminisce about the good ol' days, and can achieve her MSDOS-chan fix with PCDOS-chan. ^.^
AND... she has clerical experience, so already that makes her useful in the ever-underfunded A$C.
Awesome! A new A$C member!
But considering how many "independant" OS-tans are out there, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of them.
QuoteWhere to start...In a berzerk fit of rage she nearly killed her mother, she has the habit of whacking people with her metal staff, throwing books, and throwing boots! Oh, and she doesn't take compliments very well.
But we all know that she is very nice compared to the likes of Festering Hate-tan, who is (currently) THE most malicious malware-tan and is a zombie with the need for REVEEEEEEEEENGE!
I think that Unix-sama would actually be a rather resonable individual...maybe reading the history of Unix made me realize that Unix-sama probably would have begun life with the best of intentions, and would have felt a great deal of guilt for some of the things that she did.
I think her attitude (especially currently) would be akin to Ben Linus (bet you missed my outta nowhere Lost references, huh?). She's quite normal and calm; even if she's plotting something against you, she acts with a great deal of courtesty. But the minute she feels the need to act you better watch out--I figure she'd be quite in touch with her Id; which means a would-be agresser would get a fairly pure form of RAGE on her part :P
Course, I'm sure she has her nice side; we did speculate quite extensivly on who her friends would be, and the list is very extensive...
OMG, I just phychoanalized Unix-sama...
*gets flute cracked over head*
I spoke too soon...
QuoteSo she does have respect for some of her elders! I wasn't sure if she would because of a lot of bad experiences she had with them (although CTSS-sama and EXEC-sama are harmless
In my comic I hope to explain some of her distain toward Multics-sama and GECOS-san...
QuoteIn addition to that, it's also important to assume that OS/2-sama, deep down inside, also doesn't want to risk formenting a hatred towards them either, or worse, be hated by them for what she wants to do to their family. 1.0-chan especially could become hysterical if she sees OS/2-tan hurt any of her children, even if she hardly knows them.
And I was about to ask why OS/2-san never approched Win1.0 or 2.0-chan... :..(
In the original preconcept stories I posted [buried somewhere in this thread], I suggested that the two were still around after NT-san and 95-an were born. But given the direction the company was already going in, the NT and 95 were pushed into training, indoctrination and conditioning almost immediately. Since mixing with their NON-belligerent relatives would've been counterproductive, it's likely neither pair was made to meet one another, except perhaps in some random passing along some random hallway. Especially in NT-san's case, she was not related at all and had less of a need to call them "mother" and "onee-san".
Ahhh, this clears up a problem I forsaw; I was going to include a cameo of OS/2-san and NT-chan in a comic with VMS-sama (circa 1990/91).
But it's funny you should mention "conditioning"; I do suppose that those MS engineers could have done just about whatever they want to any of the Windowses. I wouldn't be surprised if NT-san saw VMS-sama and didn't even really recognize her -__-
QuoteThat sounds perfect! NT and 95 were trained from the start to fight against the competitors and I assume pillage their cities afterwards until they welcomed their new Windows overlords! Interacting with the 1.0 and 2.0-tans would have gotten in the way with that because aww... they are so sweet! However that exactly was why they were exiled- they couldn't carry out the scorched-earth tactics of their younger sister... And NT.
With both pairs of Windows-tans not meant to meet each other, as well as that 3.1-tan (who was only kept for being the first popular Windows) and MSDOS-tan (did she still have a little influence remaining?) were seperated from both pairs, the times couldn't have been good for them. It is their loneliness that most likely changed them to the ways they are now.
I do suppose that NT-san would have been brought up to recognize 3.1-san as her only mother-type figure, though...
QuoteQuite simply,....
- M$ adopted the newborn QDOS-chan.
- M$ played with her for a few days.
- M$ made two clones off of her and shuttled them away.
- M$ dumped her, now that they had what they really wanted.
And she's fended for herself ever since -- and with no one to develop her further, her growth and mind were horrifically stunted. Even DRDOS-tan (then CP/M-tan) wouldn't acknowledge her until many years later, when she started thinking for herself and stopped viewing her "daughters" as competition.
That sum crazy crap going on.
Sad, though, it makes me think there's a reason behind QDOS-chan's rather quirkey mantallity :..(
All this talk of source code theif n' stuff makes me think of a recent story I read about biotech companies patenting human genes. It turns out 1/5 of the human genome has been patented--yes, your genetic makeup is officially 1/5 "owned", and scientists have to cough up money to work on these portions of genes. We're partially closed-source as it were XD
This kinda made me think about the open/closed source OS-tan analogy. I suppose closed-source OS-tans would have their entire genetic sequence owned, while OSS ones would allow anybody to work/test/modify their genes.
Also, I was reading about the Unix Wars (research for my comic), and I came to a realization; before the Unix Wars, Bell Labs' Unix source code was practically free for anybody to modify and redistribute, and the magnetic tapes with Unix on it were being sent around the world. But in 1983, when Bell System broke up, AT&T could then sell Unix as a product; it clamped down on all source code exchange and tape distribution, which greatly harmed Unix' development.
Which makes me think...I know we suppose Unix-sama's physical problems stem from an emotional cause, but now it seems like the Unix Wars would have had an acutal, physical, effect on her up-until-then good health.
In other news, I'm thinking about making an Emacs-tan or kun, cause, y'know, it's such a famous Unix program. But I have next to no ideas, aside from her/him being something of a helper to the Unixen. Any thoughts?[/quote]
Sorry, can't join in quite yet, and afraid I have to do a Post-n-Go for such an important character as C128-san. ^___^
*posts and goes*
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/VIC20-C128b.png)
Commodore 128-tan.
Was for many years the youngest TRUE Commodore-tan, until the appearance of C65-tan.
Still has her old military uniform, except for her coat and heeled shoes.
Is carrying a plushie of C65-tan, although I wasn't sure of her hair and kerchief color scheme.
C128-san has relatively muted colors, per the scheme of the original hardware.
She DOES carry a firearm, although she conceals it better than her military lolita "big" sister.
OBVIOUSLY still needs to be shaded and stuff. ^^;
And that's about all for now....
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Oh, and Sauce attached.
C ya soon! ^-^
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UPDATE:
Wow, got quite a lot of ground to cover here.... -v-
QuoteShe's so cute!! I'd want to glomp her but seeing that bayonet and gun, I'm keeping my distance...
That.... wouldn't.... be.... such.... a bad.... precaution. ^^'
On the one hand, she doesn't mind being called cute (in fact, she dresses that way to kinda... encourage that). On the other hand, life as a Wanderer was/is hard, and really hasn't done anything to diminish the kind of perpetual edginess she used to experience while in the service.
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Good call on keeping her military tunic! The fact that she still has her helmet and tunic really help with the military-chic/military lolita look that was intended! The mismatched shoes and socks actually work out very nicely! And if Something Awful-tan and the other members of the Fashion SWAT beg to differ, VIC20-tan's got that bayonet and big gun!
Thank you. ^__^
Interestingly-enough, I intended the mismatched shoes for C64-chan originally, but pulled them out the last minute since it didn't seem to look quite right on her boots (although I compromised by leaving her coat lining a bit mismatched. Which reminds me,... might be crazy to say this, but perhaps this picture sits the precedence for a "reimagining" of a full-sized PET-chan and C64-tan.
Don't know,... already putting off the Zerosanity XMAS comic a bit too much... ^.^;
QuoteShe tough and cute! She's small but with a big attitude and gun to boot!
Now you see why she'd get rather well with Pilot-chan. Both are similar in height, appearance, marksmenship, and temperment. ^__^'
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Incidentally, OSR 2.5 was still not very good at USB support either. Now I wonder why OSR 2.5-tan left...
Well those WERE more competitive times for the Softies. Based on our earlier discussion about winning or losing, I suppose they would've encouraged an obsession for winning by any means necessary. And if you were a loser now, you were a loser forever, no matter what. ^^
Maybe OSR 2.5-sama left believing that mindset. And after a few years wallowing in misery, she realized [perhaps with a little help from 2.1-sensei] tnat it really wasn't the end of the world, and started piecing together her life back. Now, like C65-tan (minus the insanity), she's confident that she can do anything -- even compete head-to-head with a superior OS like Hacchan. ^___^
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Well, that's sad and it's a bummer that not very many of the Windows-tans will miss her when she does get kicked out, but on the bright side, she'd be able to join the Binteeji Renmei and reunite with PC DOS-tan, Windows 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan!
True that. ^^
But try to keep that to yourself, though. It's PRECISELY because she might be happier getting kicked out that certain mean-spirited, chair-throwing people might insist she be kept around in perpetuity. @__@
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Oh my gawd! That is just awful of them! Using a poor little girl at her expense for their own gain to get rid of her soon after! That is just so wrong! No wonder why that is kept a secret!
Meh. Same old story repeated countless times since. She just happened to be one of the first. -v-
It's actually fortunate that she does fully understand or even care about what's said about her in print -- otherwise, it'd be insult to injury to find out how often she's been denied the credit for being the predecessor of MSDOS and PCDOS, who are themselves wrongfully credited for being the first "DOSes".
QuoteI didn't know that QDOS-chan's physical and mental growth were severely stunted! I thought she just a little scatterbrained and was so short for being a very minimalist DOS!
Chicken and the egg scenario, my dear. ^^
Is it that she's physically and mentally stunted because she is a minimalist DOS, or is it because she was never evolved beyond being a minimalist DOS that she remained physically and mentally stunted? `v'
QuoteIt's also a shame that it also took so long for DR DOS-tan to acknowledge and start caring for her because the damage to QDOS-chan was already long done. Glad that DR DOS-tan changed her ways but I wish I could have said better late than never.
Chalk up another bit of sap for the Binteji Renmei. Each member has something in their past that haunts them, and certainly someone as hands on and workaholic as DRDOS-tan would have tons of things she's not proud of. This is probably a source of contention with some of her daughters -- I can't imagine that PCDOS-tan or DOS/V-tan or perhaps even PTSDOS-tan wouldn't have argued with her at least once.
QuoteDon't want to waste staple food! Something less pratical like papaya would be a good alternative!
Note to say papaya doesn't have its health benefits. ^.^
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But by GAWD, the smell! >x<
QuoteShe is resourceful and not only a great pilot, but also a great plane mechanic!
Oh no,... on the contrary, she's a mediocre mechanic and the reason why she takes so long building things. It used to be that she'd have her own deck crew that would take care of stuff like that.
Now that she's on her own, she realizes the full impact of neglecting her studies. ^___^;
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And if she runs out of trash to drop, she can drop someone who talks trash! Okay, so Pilot-chan is the trash-talker but I'm sure that PC DOS-tan may be as well because of her own hardship, sharp wit, sharp tongue and cynicism! (and besides, Pilot-chan is the pilot!)
BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! I honestly hadn't thought of it that way! That's a good one, Aurora-hime. ^.^
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Yeah! When C128-tan will have succeeded in her life-long goal as a wanderer, being able to reunite with and befriend C65-tan, they can finally settle down in the Binteeji Renmei!
Not sure if C65-tan would want to stay put for TOO long, but C128-tan is certainly gracious and passive enough to settle down. It would certainly help to have another adult-type to help out with heavy tasks.
QuotePilot-chan is cynical and may have endured similar hardships, ITS-sama was a rebel, Amstrad-tan I'm not sure about though. Was she another rebel? And her reverence among the Linux-tans is really interesting but I'm stumped!
ITS-sama is also an excellent marksmen -- probably better than Pilot-chan and VIC20-chan -- who also manages to keep her head cool. Combined with her age and wisdom, they could see her as a kind of senior of sorts.
Amstrad-tan is strong and athletic, and just a tad bit foul-in-the-mouth as well (albeit too laced with heavy British slang to be fully comprehensible). She could take very well with their level of brusque humor. ^^'
Oh, and didn't you know? Linus' first computer was a VIC-20. ^__^
Perhaps if it weren't for VIC20-chan, the Linux-tans as we know them may have never existed. ^.^
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As for C65-tan...yours and C-Chan's design is PURE WIN! I love the Military Lolita look, it's awesome (I am a fan of both Military and Lolita looks, BTW). Cool character backstory, as well!
Um,... the Military Lolita one is VIC20-chan. C65-tan is the loony pirate girl.... ^^'
QuoteYou make me wonder...would Unix-sama have ever met CTSS-sama...? Cause it's been said that Unix and CTSS shared more similarities than Unix and Multics, in some cases....
Would make for a ton of sap, as Unix-sama would be meeting the one person who was, for all intents and purposes, more akin to her than Multics-sama was; yet cared for Multics-sama with all her heart and was crushed to see what Unix-sama did to her...maybe it's because CTSS-sama died in 1973 (still quite early in Unix-sama's life), but I've never really thought of their interactions until now.
Tsk tsk,... if figures the Queen of Sap would have THAT on her mind. ^^
From our previous discussions, I assumed the two were never destined to meet -- perhaps CTSS-sama, like EXEC-sama, was confined to live in a particular place, allowed to be visited by only prescreened people (usually high class or royalty), and only rarely allowed the luxury of traveling at all (let alone by herself). All this despite protestations to the contrary -- but then these were far different times, so she simply put up with these stuffy ol' rules.
Under those circumstances -- perhaps motivated by the dreadful news of MULTICS-sama's defeat (would the year be right?) -- maybe she would have snuck out in secret, veiled in heavy "hag-like" clothing to avoid detection. Maybe she would have spent a night (or nights) trying to seek out the unknown girl who inflicted so much physical and emotional harm to Multics-sama.
In fact, despite her usual demeanor, it might have occured to CTSS-sama at one point to commit something,... perhaps,... not nice,... vengeful even,... poisonous literally...
But upon meeting the young UNIX-sama (who wouldn't have known who she was), CTSS-sama would have been immediately conflicted.
QuoteI think her attitude (especially currently) would be akin to Ben Linus (bet you missed my outta nowhere Lost references, huh?). She's quite normal and calm; even if she's plotting something against you, she acts with a great deal of courtesty. But the minute she feels the need to act you better watch out--I figure she'd be quite in touch with her Id; which means a would-be agresser would get a fairly pure form of RAGE on her part :P
Course, I'm sure she has her nice side; we did speculate quite extensivly on who her friends would be, and the list is very extensive...
Speaking of conflicted, you seem to appreciate the intricacies of "UNIX-sama-ism". ^____^
Good going, Bella-hime. ^.^
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But it's funny you should mention "conditioning"; I do suppose that those MS engineers could have done just about whatever they want to any of the Windowses. I wouldn't be surprised if NT-san saw VMS-sama and didn't even really recognize her -__-
Well, if you think of it as Gunslinger Girl-style conditioning, then yes that could be a possibility. Even more tragic for VMS-sama, since she can't recreate her true family without forcing some kind of "reconditioning".
One could almost say this has motivated her to emphasize technological development within the CIOST.
QuoteI do suppose that NT-san would have been brought up to recognize 3.1-san as her only mother-type figure, though...
Correct. As far as M$ is concerned, 3.1-sama is the Beginning. Even MSDOS-chan's origins are a bit muddied in this respect, so it's not uncommon, especially among young users these days, to assume 3.1-sama
PREDATES MSDOS-chan. ^^;
Ignorance is Strength, after all. ^__~
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All this talk of source code theif n' stuff makes me think of a recent story I read about biotech companies patenting human genes. It turns out 1/5 of the human genome has been patented--yes, your genetic makeup is officially 1/5 "owned", and scientists have to cough up money to work on these portions of genes. We're partially closed-source as it were XD
Well I have a hard time believing that because human genome projects are centered around only a small sample set of DNA. Especially with environmental factors (e.g., radiation) altering our DNA in subtle ways, the mapping of MY genes is not guaranteed to be of much relevance to yours.
Besides, the fact that they're rushing to patent this stuff only shows that they're not at all interested in using it for anything productive -- and people with only money in their head do not a good scientist make. `__'
For all we know, there claims to ownership of human genes has as much functional relevance as having a star registered in your name.
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This kinda made me think about the open/closed source OS-tan analogy. I suppose closed-source OS-tans would have their entire genetic sequence owned, while OSS ones would allow anybody to work/test/modify their genes.
Correct -- I'm kinda getting a sense of deja vu, so I think we discussed this at one point. ^.^
This little OS-tan world of ours certainly presents an interesting philosophical premise: how would family relationships work out in a world where cloning is literally a fact of life rather than a freakish rarity. It would not be rare for someone with the power and resources of UNIX-sama to legally recognize THOUSANDS of clones as her legitimate daughters and grandaughters and great grandaughters, and thus cast herself as a kind of Super Matriarch.
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Also, I was reading about the Unix Wars (research for my comic), and I came to a realization; before the Unix Wars, Bell Labs' Unix source code was practically free for anybody to modify and redistribute, and the magnetic tapes with Unix on it were being sent around the world. But in 1983, when Bell System broke up, AT&T could then sell Unix as a product; it clamped down on all source code exchange and tape distribution, which greatly harmed Unix' development.
Which makes me think...I know we suppose Unix-sama's physical problems stem from an emotional cause, but now it seems like the Unix Wars would have had an acutal, physical, effect on her up-until-then good health.
That is a good point -- definitely one backed by empirical research. I like it! C-chan approved! ^___^
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In other news, I'm thinking about making an Emacs-tan or kun, cause, y'know, it's such a famous Unix program. But I have next to no ideas, aside from her/him being something of a helper to the Unixen. Any thoughts?
Well you know my thoughts on him in the other thread. ^.^
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Oh wow, a few news characters! And very interesting ones at that!
Visi On-tan seems pretty interesting, and it's cool that the A$C has FINALLY gotten a new member! Good find, as I had never heard of this OS, nor would have thought of half the things you did.
And I love her design, too.
Yeah, it's about time that the A$C gets a new member! I at first thought that the A$C was closed to new members so I originally thought that Visi On-tan would be in the CIOST or be a wanderer, but the CIOST may be getting full.
Besides, her being with someone else who has had bad experiences with the Windows-tans [OS/2-tan] is perfect! And that she can talk about old stuff with TRS DOS-tan and be a friend to her (TRS DOS-tan really could use a friend!) , and not to mention the thrill of being in such a crazy group and simply knowing that she is wanted by someone...
Visi On-tan's life turned around for the better when she joined the A$C, even though she (along with the rest of the group) gets in a LOT of trouble!
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Oh, I can see the two as buddies...both were ambitious and influencial, but failures all in all...
Lisa-tan and Visi On-tan also suffered some similar fates.
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I think that Unix-sama would actually be a rather resonable individual...maybe reading the history of Unix made me realize that Unix-sama probably would have begun life with the best of intentions, and would have felt a great deal of guilt for some of the things that she did.
I think her attitude (especially currently) would be akin to Ben Linus (bet you missed my outta nowhere Lost references, huh?). She's quite normal and calm; even if she's plotting something against you, she acts with a great deal of courtesty. But the minute she feels the need to act you better watch out--I figure she'd be quite in touch with her Id; which means a would-be agresser would get a fairly pure form of RAGE on her part :P
Course, I'm sure she has her nice side; we did speculate quite extensivly on who her friends would be, and the list is very extensive...
I agree!
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In my comic I hope to explain some of her distain toward Multics-sama and GECOS-san...
Wait a minute... GECOS-san was Unix-sama's mentor, right? If so, why would she feel disdain towards her? (Was GECOS-san abusive or something?)
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But it's funny you should mention "conditioning"; I do suppose that those MS engineers could have done just about whatever they want to any of the Windowses. I wouldn't be surprised if NT-san saw VMS-sama and didn't even really recognize her -__-
I think that conditioning would explain why NT-tan is unaware of her relations with OS/2-tan and VMS-sama (why NT-tan and her daughters are treated like sisters to the DOS-based Windows-tans), and why NT-tan and 95-tan both are unaware of 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan.
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I do suppose that NT-san would have been brought up to recognize 3.1-san as her only mother-type figure, though...
I think that seems right. It was conjectured that 3.1-tan was once cheerful and loved the young NT-tan (who admired 3.1-tan and her beauty, reflecting on how NT started at version 3.1 and had a 3.1-like GUI) but lost a lot of her enthusiasm because NT-tan and 95-tan were always paired together for training.
Quote from: "C-Chan"Sorry, can't join in quite yet, and afraid I have to do a Post-n-Go for such an important character as C128-san. ^___^
*posts and goes*
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/VIC20-C128b.png
WOOOOOOOOOW! She's beautiful! (And heck a lot more detailed than my sub-par preconcept sketch!) She definantly has that mature look (which her outfit also helps establish) that makes her look like the big sister of the Commodore-tans despite being the second youngest!
I also really like how you did the eyes. I just might change the eye style that I have used all this time (my art style hasn't changed all that much in three years, aside from vast improvements in proportions and shading)
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Is carrying a plushie of C65-tan, although I wasn't sure of her hair and kerchief color scheme.
CUUUUUUUTE! C128-tan lovingly holding that plushie of C65-tan shows that she really does care for her younger sister, even if she is a pirate that has long gone insane! ^_^
The color scheme is very close to what I finally decided on (although her bandana is also beige). Her hair is dark purple as well as her eyes.
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That.... wouldn't.... be.... such.... a bad.... precaution. ^^'
On the one hand, she doesn't mind being called cute (in fact, she dresses that way to kinda... encourage that). On the other hand, life as a Wanderer was/is hard, and really hasn't done anything to diminish the kind of perpetual edginess she used to experience while in the service.
At least I don't have to worry about her shooting or stabbing me for calling her cute!
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Thank you. ^__^
Interestingly-enough, I intended the mismatched shoes for C64-chan originally, but pulled them out the last minute since it didn't seem to look quite right on her boots (although I compromised by leaving her coat lining a bit mismatched. Which reminds me,... might be crazy to say this, but perhaps this picture sits the precedence for a "reimagining" of a full-sized PET-chan and C64-tan.
Adding in PET-chan and C64-tan would further increase the very high levels of awesomeness of the picture! Although... it does come at the cost of further postponing the ZS Xmas special... Tough call :(
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Don't know,... already putting off the Zerosanity XMAS comic a bit too much... ^.^;
Hmm... You could do that after finishing the ZS Xmas special. We're most of the way there!
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Now you see why she'd get rather well with Pilot-chan. Both are similar in height, appearance, marksmenship, and temperment. ^__^'
Of course!
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Well those WERE more competitive times for the Softies. Based on our earlier discussion about winning or losing, I suppose they would've encouraged an obsession for winning by any means necessary. And if you were a loser now, you were a loser forever, no matter what. ^^
Maybe OSR 2.5-sama left believing that mindset. And after a few years wallowing in misery, she realized [perhaps with a little help from 2.1-sensei] tnat it really wasn't the end of the world, and started piecing together her life back. Now, like C65-tan (minus the insanity), she's confident that she can do anything -- even compete head-to-head with a superior OS like Hacchan. ^___^
OSR 2.5-tan in a sappy story... I'm tempted to draw that! A short but motivational comic! ^_^
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True that. ^^
But try to keep that to yourself, though. It's PRECISELY because she might be happier getting kicked out that certain mean-spirited, chair-throwing people might insist she be kept around in perpetuity. @__@
That's cruel!
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Meh. Same old story repeated countless times since. She just happened to be one of the first. -v-
I didn't think such scenario was that common! The OS-tan world can be a cruel place, just like the real world!
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Chicken and the egg scenario, my dear. ^^
Is it that she's physically and mentally stunted because she is a minimalist DOS, or is it because she was never evolved beyond being a minimalist DOS that she remained physically and mentally stunted? `v'
Uhh... Can I use a lifeline to answer that?
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Chalk up another bit of sap for the Binteji Renmei. Each member has something in their past that haunts them, and certainly someone as hands on and workaholic as DRDOS-tan would have tons of things she's not proud of. This is probably a source of contention with some of her daughters -- I can't imagine that PCDOS-tan or DOS/V-tan or perhaps even PTSDOS-tan wouldn't have argued with her at least once.
And I thought that DR DOS-tan was perfectly nice :(
But surely she has a lot to regret back when she and each of her daughters saw each other as competition.
Speaking of DR DOS-tan, what would her relation be to GEM-tan? They are from the same company, and GEM is DOS-based!
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But by GAWD, the smell! >x<
Even worse-smelling than papayas are Durians! Foul stuff!
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Oh no,... on the contrary, she's a mediocre mechanic and the reason why she takes so long building things. It used to be that she'd have her own deck crew that would take care of stuff like that.
Now that she's on her own, she realizes the full impact of neglecting her studies. ^___^;
Ohh... Didn't think about that! Hopefully she is shaping up and learning mechanics on her own now that there is almost no one to help her! (of course she could hire MenuetOS-tan to help her! And even better is that MenuetOS-tan is generous enough to allow large discounts to the Vintage-tans :D )
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BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! I honestly hadn't thought of it that way! That's a good one, Aurora-hime. ^.^
I love throwing around wisecracks whenever I can! :D
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Not sure if C65-tan would want to stay put for TOO long, but C128-tan is certainly gracious and passive enough to settle down. It would certainly help to have another adult-type to help out with heavy tasks.
C65-tan could stay a wanderer but visit the Binteeji Renmei often or even by a part-time member! Although her years as a wanderer have turned her insane (although her insanity decreases after the reunion), she has gained a liking for travel and work.
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ITS-sama is also an excellent marksmen -- probably better than Pilot-chan and VIC20-chan -- who also manages to keep her head cool. Combined with her age and wisdom, they could see her as a kind of senior of sorts.
And a role model!
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Amstrad-tan is strong and athletic, and just a tad bit foul-in-the-mouth as well (albeit too laced with heavy British slang to be fully comprehensible). She could take very well with their level of brusque humor. ^^'
Cool! ;012
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Oh, and didn't you know? Linus' first computer was a VIC-20. ^__^
Perhaps if it weren't for VIC20-chan, the Linux-tans as we know them may have never existed. ^.^
That's right- I actually was about to guess that. Also, OpenBSD's creator first used a VIC-20!
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Would make for a ton of sap, as Unix-sama would be meeting the one person who was, for all intents and purposes, more akin to her than Multics-sama was; yet cared for Multics-sama with all her heart and was crushed to see what Unix-sama did to her...maybe it's because CTSS-sama died in 1973 (still quite early in Unix-sama's life), but I've never really thought of their interactions until now.
And to think that CTSS-sama could have been a good grandmother figure to Unix-sama if it weren't for what she did to Multics-sama.
It was mentioned that Unix-sama is fond of EXEC-sama, who is like the grandmother Unix-sama never really had!
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From our previous discussions, I assumed the two were never destined to meet -- perhaps CTSS-sama, like EXEC-sama, was confined to live in a particular place, allowed to be visited by only prescreened people (usually high class or royalty), and only rarely allowed the luxury of traveling at all (let alone by herself). All this despite protestations to the contrary -- but then these were far different times, so she simply put up with these stuffy ol' rules.
That's what I was thinking too. Certainly suits the times.
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Under those circumstances -- perhaps motivated by the dreadful news of MULTICS-sama's defeat (would the year be right?) -- maybe she would have snuck out in secret, veiled in heavy "hag-like" clothing to avoid detection. Maybe she would have spent a night (or nights) trying to seek out the unknown girl who inflicted so much physical and emotional harm to Multics-sama.
In fact, despite her usual demeanor, it might have occured to CTSS-sama at one point to commit something,... perhaps,... not nice,... vengeful even,... poisonous literally...
But upon meeting the young UNIX-sama (who wouldn't have known who she was), CTSS-sama would have been immediately conflicted.
Whoa... CTSS-sama sneaking out to attempt to assassinate Unix-sama? o_o
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Correct. As far as M$ is concerned, 3.1-sama is the Beginning. Even MSDOS-chan's origins are a bit muddied in this respect, so it's not uncommon, especially among young users these days, to assume 3.1-sama PREDATES MSDOS-chan. ^^;
Ignorance is Strength, after all. ^__~
Oh my gawd >__<
I thought it would be obvious to everyone that the command line OSes generally came before the GUI OSes! (there are a few obscure exceptions though, such as Free DOS [first released in 1998] and Tinfoil Hat Linux [first released in 2002] )
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Correct -- I'm kinda getting a sense of deja vu, so I think we discussed this at one point. ^.^
This little OS-tan world of ours certainly presents an interesting philosophical premise: how would family relationships work out in a world where cloning is literally a fact of life rather than a freakish rarity. It would not be rare for someone with the power and resources of UNIX-sama to legally recognize THOUSANDS of clones as her legitimate daughters and grandaughters and great grandaughters, and thus cast herself as a kind of Super Matriarch.
That is crazy! But Plan 9-sama recognizes Plan B-tan and Octopus-tan (two of her clones) as real family!
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Also, I was reading about the Unix Wars (research for my comic), and I came to a realization; before the Unix Wars, Bell Labs' Unix source code was practically free for anybody to modify and redistribute, and the magnetic tapes with Unix on it were being sent around the world. But in 1983, when Bell System broke up, AT&T could then sell Unix as a product; it clamped down on all source code exchange and tape distribution, which greatly harmed Unix' development.
Which makes me think...I know we suppose Unix-sama's physical problems stem from an emotional cause, but now it seems like the Unix Wars would have had an acutal, physical, effect on her up-until-then good health.
Nice research! And I agree that would have physically affected her. Few Unices were unaffected by the Unix Wars!
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Wait a minute... GECOS-san was Unix-sama's mentor, right? If so, why would she feel disdain towards her? (Was GECOS-san abusive or something?)
Well, GECOS-sama wasn't exactly the sweetest or even the most decent instructor in the world. If anything, her motivation for training UNIX-sama was to get back at her old nemesis MULTICS-sama -- once that little inconvenient fact was revealed, UNIX-sama may have wanted to express her displeasure of being used.
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I think that seems right. It was conjectured that 3.1-tan was once cheerful and loved the young NT-tan (who admired 3.1-tan and her beauty, reflecting on how NT started at version 3.1 and had a 3.1-like GUI) but lost a lot of her enthusiasm because NT-tan and 95-tan were always paired together for training.
Correct. Everything was honky-dory with only NT-tan around -- but enter 95-tan and the gushing of attention towards her by all parties (even Father), and the realization came to 3.1-sama that she was no longer it. There's an ever-lasting feeling trying to wriggle past all the layers of her own lesser conditioning that perhaps history was repeating itself to her own detriment.
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WOOOOOOOOOW! She's beautiful! (And heck a lot more detailed than my sub-par preconcept sketch!) She definantly has that mature look (which her outfit also helps establish) that makes her look like the big sister of the Commodore-tans despite being the second youngest!
Well it's a bit unfair comparing it to your sketch, since I spent days on this trying to finalize the right kind of look and color scheme, going through a number of less appealing versions. In that case, it's also way better than my own sub-par preconcept sketch I drew of her last year. ^__~
Glad you think she's very beautiful, though -- it occurred to me that I've yet to draw genuinely mature women (slight exception perhaps being Amiga-sama in her gala dress), so now seemed like an excellent opportunity. C128-san may have been firm and professional while she was in the service, but she was also mature and motherly, and the only one out of the old guard that treated the young cadet Amiga-chan with any welcoming spirit.
Long retired from the service, C128-tan has only matured further and grown even more kindly than before, perhaps a result of her search for her long-lost little sister.
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I also really like how you did the eyes. I just might change the eye style that I have used all this time (my art style hasn't changed all that much in three years, aside from vast improvements in proportions and shading)
I like to experiment with eyes a lot, and don't mind changing styles frequently for different characters. The keen, catlike appearance works very well with VIC20-chan, but C128-san clearly needed something softer and more doe-like, but with its own slight edge. It's really not much different from the Haruhi-style I use, except perhaps for a little more eyelash, a larger pupil, and that semi-glossy jutting in the center of her iris. You'll know what I mean when you check the Sauce. ^.^
Speaking of Sauce, don't worry about shading her as I'll take care of that this time. You have an epic comic ending to work on. ^___^
QuoteCUUUUUUUTE! C128-tan lovingly holding that plushie of C65-tan shows that she really does care for her younger sister, even if she is a pirate that has long gone insane!
The color scheme is very close to what I finally decided on (although her bandana is also beige). Her hair is dark purple as well as her eyes.
Got it! Already fixed the colors in my own Sauce. ^___^
I imagine the picture is taken a few years into the future, after C65-tan has already been found and C128-san already knows she's a pirate. That's why I wouldn't mind adding PET-chan and C64-tan to this picture either, since by then they'll have all been reunited.
Would certainly present an excellent opportunity to show off PET-chan's eyes,... ironically, the most intimidating of the bunch. ^_________^
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Oh shoot, I'm outta time now, but I'll continue this later. Don't go away! ^.^
QuoteCommodore 128-tan.
Was for many years the youngest TRUE Commodore-tan, until the appearance of C65-tan.
Still has her old military uniform, except for her coat and heeled shoes.
Is carrying a plushie of C65-tan, although I wasn't sure of her hair and kerchief color scheme.
C128-san has relatively muted colors, per the scheme of the original hardware.
She DOES carry a firearm, although she conceals it better than her military lolita "big" sister.
OBVIOUSLY still needs to be shaded and stuff. ^^;
Oooh, I love her! The eyes are really neat, as well as her outfit and plush, as well as her stockings....we don't see enough characters with pantyhose :P
QuoteTrue that. ^^
But try to keep that to yourself, though. It's PRECISELY because she might be happier getting kicked out that certain mean-spirited, chair-throwing people might insist she be kept around in perpetuity. @__@
Don't mention Steve Ballmer! You'll get us all F#$%ing Killed!
QuoteITS-sama is also an excellent marksmen -- probably better than Pilot-chan and VIC20-chan -- who also manages to keep her head cool. Combined with her age and wisdom, they could see her as a kind of senior of sorts.
Amstrad-tan is strong and athletic, and just a tad bit foul-in-the-mouth as well (albeit too laced with heavy British slang to be fully comprehensible). She could take very well with their level of brusque humor. ^^'
Oh, and didn't you know? Linus' first computer was a VIC-20. ^__^
Perhaps if it weren't for VIC20-chan, the Linux-tans as we know them may have never existed. ^.^
Oh wow, now I have to add VIC20-chan in my comic at some point :D
QuoteUm,... the Military Lolita one is VIC20-chan. C65-tan is the loony pirate girl.... ^^'
Sorry, the Midwest clearly scattered my brain O__o
QuoteTsk tsk,... if figures the Queen of Sap would have THAT on her mind. ^^
From our previous discussions, I assumed the two were never destined to meet -- perhaps CTSS-sama, like EXEC-sama, was confined to live in a particular place, allowed to be visited by only prescreened people (usually high class or royalty), and only rarely allowed the luxury of traveling at all (let alone by herself). All this despite protestations to the contrary -- but then these were far different times, so she simply put up with these stuffy ol' rules.
Under those circumstances -- perhaps motivated by the dreadful news of MULTICS-sama's defeat (would the year be right?) -- maybe she would have snuck out in secret, veiled in heavy "hag-like" clothing to avoid detection. Maybe she would have spent a night (or nights) trying to seek out the unknown girl who inflicted so much physical and emotional harm to Multics-sama.
In fact, despite her usual demeanor, it might have occured to CTSS-sama at one point to commit something,... perhaps,... not nice,... vengeful even,... poisonous literally...
But upon meeting the young UNIX-sama (who wouldn't have known who she was), CTSS-sama would have been immediately conflicted.
Well, I know CTSS-sama would have died in 1973, so I suppose the Multics/Unix-sama showdown would have occured in 72 or early 73 (shortly before CTSS-sama's death)...I also support the idea CTSS-sama would have been quite confined, as far as I know CTSS never left MIT.
But I don't believe CTSS-sama would have had the heart to try to kill Unix-sama. Even if she did hurt the person closest to her, I figure her attitude would be very live and let live...(and she would have known Multics-sama had it coming, in a way).
QuoteSpeaking of conflicted, you seem to appreciate the intricacies of "UNIX-sama-ism". ^____^
Good going, Bella-hime. ^.^
Thank you ^///^
QuoteWell, if you think of it as Gunslinger Girl-style conditioning, then yes that could be a possibility. Even more tragic for VMS-sama, since she can't recreate her true family without forcing some kind of "reconditioning".
One could almost say this has motivated her to emphasize technological development within the CIOST.
Lemme put it this way--I wouldn't put ANYTHING past MS >____<
But yeah, I don't think NT-sama will ever be able to find out the truth... -___-
QuoteWell I have a hard time believing that because human genome projects are centered around only a small sample set of DNA. Especially with environmental factors (e.g., radiation) altering our DNA in subtle ways, the mapping of MY genes is not guaranteed to be of much relevance to yours.
Besides, the fact that they're rushing to patent this stuff only shows that they're not at all interested in using it for anything productive -- and people with only money in their head do not a good scientist make. `__'
For all we know, there claims to ownership of human genes has as much functional relevance as having a star registered in your name.
Waaah! I can send you the article :P
But you make good points; still, when research into deadly diseases is being impeded by these patents, they do seem very harmful.
QuoteCorrect -- I'm kinda getting a sense of deja vu, so I think we discussed this at one point. ^.^
This little OS-tan world of ours certainly presents an interesting philosophical premise: how would family relationships work out in a world where cloning is literally a fact of life rather than a freakish rarity. It would not be rare for someone with the power and resources of UNIX-sama to legally recognize THOUSANDS of clones as her legitimate daughters and grandaughters and great grandaughters, and thus cast herself as a kind of Super Matriarch.
Good point...I just think that they'd view it as the way they "reproduce" and not give much though to it @___@
QuoteThat is a good point -- definitely one backed by empirical research. I like it! C-chan approved! ^___^
Thanks again!
QuoteYeah, it's about time that the A$C gets a new member! I at first thought that the A$C was closed to new members so I originally thought that Visi On-tan would be in the CIOST or be a wanderer, but the CIOST may be getting full.
Besides, her being with someone else who has had bad experiences with the Windows-tans [OS/2-tan] is perfect! And that she can talk about old stuff with TRS DOS-tan and be a friend to her (TRS DOS-tan really could use a friend!) , and not to mention the thrill of being in such a crazy group and simply knowing that she is wanted by someone...
Visi On-tan's life turned around for the better when she joined the A$C, even though she (along with the rest of the group) gets in a LOT of trouble!
I wonder if we'll find more A$C members... ;)
QuoteHmm... You could do that after finishing the ZS Xmas special. We're most of the way there!
True dat! I wants my Unixen, and I wants them NAU!!!
QuoteWell, GECOS-sama wasn't exactly the sweetest or even the most decent instructor in the world. If anything, her motivation for training UNIX-sama was to get back at her old nemesis MULTICS-sama -- once that little inconvenient fact was revealed, UNIX-sama may have wanted to express her displeasure of being used.
So true; unlike CTSS-sama who saw her life's work as being to raise Multics-sama, GECOS-san would have seen caring for Unix-sama as nothing but a job and an opportunety to find a good pawn.
QuoteCorrect. Everything was honky-dory with only NT-tan around -- but enter 95-tan and the gushing of attention towards her by all parties (even Father), and the realization came to 3.1-sama that she was no longer it. There's an ever-lasting feeling trying to wriggle past all the layers of her own lesser conditioning that perhaps history was repeating itself to her own detriment.
Oh my gawd...that is one screwed up bunch, I'd be fun to do a Windows family comic, in a sick kinda way O___o
Hello ladies. ^^
Ecstatic to report that I am now the proud owner of an Acer Aspire One. As much as it hurts to say it, I have to give credit where credit is due: this wonderful little machine simply blows the EeePC out of the water (the 700 series), and honestly seems like a FAR better value than the current competition. Cheap, small, sleek, responsive and fast-booting -- the customized version of Linpus Lite clearly shows better time investment to it. And while the OS is technically locked, unlocking it (and getting access to the repo) is stupidly easy -- and speaking of Repo, the Fedora repository is PACKED! And better than packed, it's reasonably up-to-date -- enough to offer Inkscape 0.46! @o@
Best of all, the Easy Mode desktop is customizable -- not by default, but at least it's FAR more hacker friendly than the Xandros Easy Mode ever was. Within an hour or two, I put everything I ever needed into a laptop within Linpus Lite -- it's just INCREDIBLE!!!!!! *v*
Now,... why am I saying all this? ^^;
Cause maybe I played with ONE-chan a little too long,... so now I'm behind on drawing again. -v-'
In fairness, I did do a little shadework on the Aspire One to test it out -- working in Inkscape on a 9 inch screen (1024x600 resolution) definitely offers much in the way of breathing room. ^.^
[Shaded Commodore 128-tan and VIC20-tan attached below.]
Will need to beg for another extension on my raincheck, but I definitely guarantee a response by tomorrow. If anything, because now I can enjoy 15 second boot-ups. ^___^
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Congratulations with your new One! Those really are impressive!
I'm especially impressed by that 15-second boot time! o_o Daaaaaaarn that's fast! My computer on the other hand, takes 2 freaking minutes to boot! x_x
Still running out of time, but promised I'd finish this, so.... C-chan GO!!!!!! ^V^
QuoteAdding in PET-chan and C64-tan would further increase the very high levels of awesomeness of the picture! Although... it does come at the cost of further postponing the ZS Xmas special... Tough call
QuoteHmm... You could do that after finishing the ZS Xmas special. We're most of the way there!
QuoteTrue dat! I wants my Unixen, and I wants them NAU!!!
Fufu! The experts have spoken. ^___^
Very well, I'll shall mop up what's left of the two Commodore girls (much faster now since Aurora-hime graciously offered to do VIC20-chan's shading) and resume work on the XMAS comic!
Although I think that's the 35th time I proclaim that. I sucketh mucheth as of late.... ^_______^;
QuoteOSR 2.5-tan in a sappy story... I'm tempted to draw that! A short but motivational comic!
Hmmm,... well if you do want to do that one day, I think it'd be great to write it from the POV of OSR 2.1-sama, as if writing about her younger sister in her memoirs. Though a bit long-winded, her old-fashioned prose would do much to help make the story of 2.5-sama's rise-from-the-ashes more inspiring and fun to read. ^___^
Kinda cute too to end the memoirs with her taking a break to reply (rather hastily) to one of 2.5-sama's letters,...... which just so happens to be a very familiar one from one of the original 4komas... ^.^
QuoteAnd I thought that DR DOS-tan was perfectly nice
But surely she has a lot to regret back when she and each of her daughters saw each other as competition.
Oh sure she has a lot to regret and she is a lot nicer than she was before. However, she's also a bit proud and may not necessarily concede that everything she did in the past was bad -- this is why she might get into scuffles with some of her more vocal daughters.
Ironically, she loves and cares for QDOS-chan PRECISELY because she harmed her the most out of all her children, yet QDOS-chan is mentally incapable of showing anything but love to her mother. The guilt is to the point where she actually wishes QDOS-chan talked back like PCDOS-chan -- but as long as that's not possible, DRDOS-tan simply does her best to make up for her so-called "parental negligence".
QuoteSpeaking of DR DOS-tan, what would her relation be to GEM-tan? They are from the same company, and GEM is DOS-based!
Good question... GEM-chan is your girl, so I leave you to decide her relationship (blood-related perhaps?). @.@
But I do know that DRDOS-chan has always been supportive of GEM-chan, and is most certainly primarily responsible for her current rehabilitation. ^__^
QuoteEven worse-smelling than papayas are Durians! Foul stuff!
OMG!!!!! @________@
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian
How did you get acquainted with the fruit? ^^
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Ohh... Didn't think about that! Hopefully she is shaping up and learning mechanics on her own now that there is almost no one to help her! (of course she could hire MenuetOS-tan to help her! And even better is that MenuetOS-tan is generous enough to allow large discounts to the Vintage-tans )
Course, then there'd have to be a way for Pilot-chan to know someone who knows someone who can ask MenutOS-san for some favors. ^_______^
*ponders*
Actually,.... didn't we say Altair-san COULD join the Binteji Renmei soon? ^__^
QuoteThat's right- I actually was about to guess that. Also, OpenBSD's creator first used a VIC-20!
Amazing what that spunky little sharpshooter has started. ^___^
Actually, Linus' second computer was a Sinclair QL, the younger sister(?) to ZX Spectrum-tan. Never really thought of making a QL-tan, although the OS name for the machine is rather,... interesting,... in a conflicting kinda way. ^^;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QDOS
QuoteWhoa... CTSS-sama sneaking out to attempt to assassinate Unix-sama?
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But I don't believe CTSS-sama would have had the heart to try to kill Unix-sama. Even if she did hurt the person closest to her, I figure her attitude would be very live and let live...(and she would have known Multics-sama had it coming, in a way).
Well it was a quick "what if" I threw out, but definitely agree now that might not be the way to go. CTSS-sama had seen enough madness in her life to perpetruate more of it herself.
However, it stands to reason that any contact CTSS-sama had with UNIX-sama before her death must have been without UNIX-sama's knowledge. As far as the UNIX-sama was concerned, she was simply chatting with a kindly "old lady". ^^;
QuoteOh my gawd >__<
I thought it would be obvious to everyone that the command line OSes generally came before the GUI OSes! (there are a few obscure exceptions though, such as Free DOS [first released in 1998] and Tinfoil Hat Linux [first released in 2002] )
Nah,... a lot of my associates thought of DOS as that text menu that appears right before Windows Safe Mode, or that little shell window that you get when you type "cmd" in XP's Run Prompt. Interestingly-enough, I've used my drawings (and yours/Bella's) to teach a very,..... "memorable" history about computers OSes, to help rectify that sacrilege. ^___^'
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Oooh, I love her! The eyes are really neat, as well as her outfit and plush, as well as her stockings....we don't see enough characters with pantyhose :P
Funny,... you're right. I think I can count in one hoof the number of pantyhose-laden characters that are out there. @@
2K-tan (occasionally)
DRDOS-tan
Cheetah-tan
Musix-tan (but they're purple)
AtariTOS-tan (or are they long socks?)
QuoteOh wow, now I have to add VIC20-chan in my comic at some point
Oh, that'd be sweeter than mole-asses! ^V^
*squeals with joy*
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But you make good points; still, when research into deadly diseases is being impeded by these patents, they do seem very harmful.
The real harm is not so much in the impediment of for-profit research, but rather in barring REAL research by REAL people and institutions actually willing to help people. At least that's how it would be like if the software industry can analogize the healthcare one. ^___^'
QuoteGood point...I just think that they'd view it as the way they "reproduce" and not give much though to it @___@
Precisely, it'd be almost invisible to them. ^__^
Maybe a matter of philosophical discussion every once in a while (by OS-tans who have nothing better to do), but other than that it's not treated as strange at all. ^-^
QuoteOh my gawd...that is one screwed up bunch, I'd be fun to do a Windows family comic, in a sick kinda way O___o
Nah,... I'd say there's bigger fish to fry. Or at least I wouldn't dwell on the canon figures for TOO long, else we invite the wrong kind of company.... -v-;
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Fufu! The experts have spoken. ^___^
Very well, I'll shall mop up what's left of the two Commodore girls (much faster now since Aurora-hime graciously offered to do VIC20-chan's shading) and resume work on the XMAS comic!
Will you still add in PET-chan and C64-tan? If you have the time to?
Still, I'm looking forward to the completion of that picture and continuation of the ZS Xmas comic! :D
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Although I think that's the 35th time I proclaim that. I sucketh mucheth as of late.... ^_______^;
I don't know... I wasn't keeping count! ;012
QuoteHmmm,... well if you do want to do that one day, I think it'd be great to write it from the POV of OSR 2.1-sama, as if writing about her younger sister in her memoirs. Though a bit long-winded, her old-fashioned prose would do much to help make the story of 2.5-sama's rise-from-the-ashes more inspiring and fun to read. ^___^
Ooooh! That's a really neat approach to the story! I like it!
As well as her encounters with OSR 2.5-tan that changed both of their lives for the better, I also hope to include:
- 2.1-tan talking about MS BOB-tan; who was hers, 3.1-tan's and 95-tan's caretaker
- MS BOB-tan running away and OSR 2.1-tan being devestated by that
(although I stated that OSR 2.1-tan was too young to remember MS BOB-tan, but maybe because of the parallels of hers and OSR 2.5-tan's stories, maybe she suddenly remembered!)
- OSR 2.1-tan's fondness of hi-tech gadgets being put to use as she was to introduce USB support to Windows
- How she ran away because of her failures, thinking that was the only way to go.
- The first competition between OSR 2.5-tan and 98-tan! OSR 2.5-tan loses and leaves too because of the competitive and "if you lose, you are a loser for life!" mentalities that had become common in their family
- Scenes of OSR 2.5-tan alone as a wanderer and wallowing in misery, barely having enough money to support herself
- The OSR 2 sisters reunite, OSR 2.1-tan helps OSR 2.5-tan get her life back together and restore her confidence!
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Kinda cute too to end the memoirs with her taking a break to reply (rather hastily) to one of 2.5-sama's letters,...... which just so happens to be a very familiar one from one of the original 4komas... ^.^
Nice! I like that it is a light-hearted way to end this sappy comic, and that it is true to both characters and of course I like the throwback to that OSR 2.5-tan 4Koma series!
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Oh sure she has a lot to regret and she is a lot nicer than she was before. However, she's also a bit proud and may not necessarily concede that everything she did in the past was bad -- this is why she might get into scuffles with some of her more vocal daughters.
I see.
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Ironically, she loves and cares for QDOS-chan PRECISELY because she harmed her the most out of all her children, yet QDOS-chan is mentally incapable of showing anything but love to her mother. The guilt is to the point where she actually wishes QDOS-chan talked back like PCDOS-chan -- but as long as that's not possible, DRDOS-tan simply does her best to make up for her so-called "parental negligence".
Oh my gawd... The sap! The irony! The sadness of it all... too powerful for me to express in words :(
I know! I will draw a DR DOS-tan + QDOS-tan group picture! *adds to queue*
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Good question... GEM-chan is your girl, so I leave you to decide her relationship (blood-related perhaps?). @.@
She could be DR DOS-tan's sister! And to DR DOS-tan's daughters, she is auntie GEM-chan! :D And because Atari TOS-tan is GEM-tan's twin sister, that'd make her auntie TOS-tan! But don't call her that though. That will make her feel old and she does not like that at all!
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But I do know that DRDOS-chan has always been supportive of GEM-chan, and is most certainly primarily responsible for her current rehabilitation. ^__^
Yup! Although GEM-tan has suffered a lot (physically and mentally), she is one of the much luckier Vintage-tans; having a very supportive sister, being open-sourced, being with her neices, being close friends with Amiga-tan and also becoming Lisa-tan's best friend!
GEM-tan was confined to a wheelchair for being too weak to walk but little by little with the help of her friends, she was able to muster up the strength to be able to walk again and she is very grateful for all the help she has gotten and returns the favor by helping the other Vintage-tans, especially those that really really need it (i.e: Lisa-tan, QDOS-tan, Windows 1.0-tan, 2.0-tan, Altair-tan)
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OMG!!!!! @________@
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian
How did you get acquainted with the fruit? ^^
On the "Top 10 mist disgusting candies ever" list on Listverse (one of my favorite websites!):
http://listverse.com/food/top-10-most-disgusting-candies-ever/
Durian candy is #2 on the list.
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Course, then there'd have to be a way for Pilot-chan to know someone who knows someone who can ask MenutOS-san for some favors. ^_______^
*ponders*
Actually,.... didn't we say Altair-san COULD join the Binteji Renmei soon? ^__^
Why, yes! Since Altair-tan's hobbies are making calculators (and other small electronic gadgets) and model rockets, it is very likely that she has consulted MenuetOS-tan at some point. And since MenuetOS-tan is still only a beta OS and she still has a lot to learn, helping out Altair-tan would be valuable training for her and the two could become friends! (which both girls really do need)
Incidentally, that is kind of the same reason why MenuetOS-tan and OSR 2.1-tan know each other!
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Amazing what that spunky little sharpshooter has started. ^___^
Actually, Linus' second computer was a Sinclair QL, the younger sister(?) to ZX Spectrum-tan. Never really thought of making a QL-tan, although the OS name for the machine is rather,... interesting,... in a conflicting kinda way. ^^;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QDOS
Hmm.... *takes notes*
- QL= Quantum Leap
- Released in 1984 by Sinclair Research
- ZX Spectrum's successor, aimed at the hobbyist and small business markets but failed
- Hardware looks very similar to the ZX Spectrum
- Capable of multitasking
- Rushed into production and development, was buggy. Also originally unable to accommodate all of its firmware (part of it shipped as an external cartridge)
- Percieved as a toy (due to its resemblance to the ZX Spectrum), did poorly in the business markets
- Sinclair's computer products were acquired by Amstrad in 1986, QL discontinued
- Still, several companies continued development for the QL after its discontinuement
I don't have a lot of ideas for QL-tan yet, but I know for sure she strongly resembles ZX Spectrum-tan, is "Quantum Leap"-inspired, tries to be professional but has childish habits that get in the way. She is also prone to rushing things and is extremely scatterbrained.
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Nah,... a lot of my associates thought of DOS as that text menu that appears right before Windows Safe Mode, or that little shell window that you get when you type "cmd" in XP's Run Prompt.
What exactly is that Run Prompt in XP? I mean, there's no way it could be DOS since XP is based off of NT! ;013
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Interestingly-enough, I've used my drawings (and yours/Bella's) to teach a very,..... "memorable" history about computers OSes, to help rectify that sacrilege. ^___^'
Awesome! Now your associates know about the OS-tans and all of the backstories that have been made! :D
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Funny,... you're right. I think I can count in one hoof the number of pantyhose-laden characters that are out there. @@
2K-tan (occasionally)
DRDOS-tan
Cheetah-tan
Musix-tan (but they're purple)
AtariTOS-tan (or are they long socks?)
AtariTOS-tan wears long socks. However, you forgot OS/2-tan!
Sorry,... haven't been feeling really well lately,... ^^;
Don't mind me if the backlog persists a bit... and my writing is a bit uninspired... -.-'
Just can't imagine all the catching up I'll have to do after I recover. -.-'
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Will you still add in PET-chan and C64-tan? If you have the time to?
Still, I'm looking forward to the completion of that picture and continuation of the ZS Xmas comic!
Oh for sure, already got their poses planned and all. PET-chan will brandish her old sword, and C64-tan will do some,... merchandising. `v'
QuoteOoooh! That's a really neat approach to the story! I like it!
As well as her encounters with OSR 2.5-tan that changed both of their lives for the better, I also hope to include:
Yeah, now that you detail it to that extent, that COULD make for an excellent comic! ^^
BTW, you needn't worry too much about the details for MSBOB-tan. Since these would be 2.1-tan's memoirs, she could easily piece together a story of her based on her own childhood memories as well as bits and pieces of newsclips and documented sources from M$. I'd imagine she'd be really good at researching.
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Nice! I like that it is a light-hearted way to end this sappy comic, and that it is true to both characters and of course I like the throwback to that OSR 2.5-tan 4Koma series!
I like to think of them as a kind of mini Binteji Renmei for Windows-tans. Perhaps once in a blue moon, 2.1-sama might offer food and shelter for fellow Window-tan wanderers. -v-
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Oh my gawd... The sap! The irony! The sadness of it all... too powerful for me to express in words
I know! I will draw a DR DOS-tan + QDOS-tan group picture! *adds to queue*
Whoops,... I should start keep my ideas to myself. All I do is increase your Queue. ^^;
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She could be DR DOS-tan's sister! And to DR DOS-tan's daughters, she is auntie GEM-chan! And because Atari TOS-tan is GEM-tan's twin sister, that'd make her auntie TOS-tan! But don't call her that though. That will make her feel old and she does not like that at all!
Oh yeah, that - would - not - be - pretty! ^v^;
But I definitely love the ideas... "Auntie GEM-tan" has a nice ring to it (notwithstanding that some of the nieces are actually LOWER). ^___^;
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Yup! Although GEM-tan has suffered a lot (physically and mentally), she is one of the much luckier Vintage-tans; having a very supportive sister, being open-sourced, being with her neices, being close friends with Amiga-tan and also becoming Lisa-tan's best friend!
And now that you phrase it THAT way, I can definitely see why GEM-chan would eventually recover.
I wanted to also expound on the fact that her sister being a great doctor (albeit a self-appointed one) probably was a big contributor to that. ^___^
QuoteGEM-tan was confined to a wheelchair for being too weak to walk but little by little with the help of her friends, she was able to muster up the strength to be able to walk again and she is very grateful for all the help she has gotten and returns the favor by helping the other Vintage-tans, especially those that really really need it (i.e: Lisa-tan, QDOS-tan, Windows 1.0-tan, 2.0-tan, Altair-tan)
And that's too sweet of her. ^_____^
Now where'd I put that stamp of hers? ^.^
QuoteWhy, yes! Since Altair-tan's hobbies are making calculators (and other small electronic gadgets) and model rockets, it is very likely that she has consulted MenuetOS-tan at some point. And since MenuetOS-tan is still only a beta OS and she still has a lot to learn, helping out Altair-tan would be valuable training for her and the two could become friends! (which both girls really do need)
Incidentally, that is kind of the same reason why MenuetOS-tan and OSR 2.1-tan know each other!
Connections, connections! Told you it was all about WHO you know as much as WHAT you know that counts. ^____^
No surprise that all the craftier OS-tans know that. ^.^
QuoteI don't have a lot of ideas for QL-tan yet, but I know for sure she strongly resembles ZX Spectrum-tan, is "Quantum Leap"-inspired, tries to be professional but has childish habits that get in the way. She is also prone to rushing things and is extremely scatterbrained.
That sounds about right -- a pretty close parallel between ][-chan to Lisa, AtariDOS-tan to AtariTOS-tan, TRSDOS-tan to CoCo-tan....
Must be a generational thing. ^.^'
One last bit of info on a potental QL-tan,...
The actual operating system for the machine is called "Sinclair QDOS"... not related, btw, to our QDOS (which is actually 86-DOS). ^^;
QuoteWhat exactly is that Run Prompt in XP? I mean, there's no way it could be DOS since XP is based off of NT!
Honstly not even sure. I always imagined it was a DOS emulator of sorts. ^^;
QuoteAtariTOS-tan wears long socks. However, you forgot OS/2-tan!
Aw crap! Did forget the multitasking goddess. ^.^
In any event,... yeah, my replies do feel a bit uninspired. Sorry... -v-
Better just get some shut eye instead. ^^;
Quote from: "C-Chan"Sorry,... haven't been feeling really well lately,... ^^;
Don't mind me if the backlog persists a bit... and my writing is a bit uninspired... -.-'
Just can't imagine all the catching up I'll have to do after I recover. -.-'
Sorry you are not feeling well :(
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Oh for sure, already got their poses planned and all. PET-chan will brandish her old sword, and C64-tan will do some,... merchandising. `v'
Super cool! I can't wait to see it! :D
What will also be great about that picture is that it will sort of fulfill the Commodore-Amiga family picture idea you wanted to draw! On its own it was way too ambitious but splitting it into two pictures (the AROS + Morph OS 1.x + Morph OS 2 pic, and the Commodore-tans pic), it becomes more manageable!
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Yeah, now that you detail it to that extent, that COULD make for an excellent comic! ^^
BTW, you needn't worry too much about the details for MSBOB-tan. Since these would be 2.1-tan's memoirs, she could easily piece together a story of her based on her own childhood memories as well as bits and pieces of newsclips and documented sources from M$. I'd imagine she'd be really good at researching.
That works much better! And this will be the 4th OS-tan Flashbackstory Chronicles story.
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I like to think of them as a kind of mini Binteji Renmei for Windows-tans. Perhaps once in a blue moon, 2.1-sama might offer food and shelter for fellow Window-tan wanderers. -v-
That is so nice, and another example that the wanderer class is not necessarily "every -tan for herself"! ^_^
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Whoops,... I should start keep my ideas to myself. All I do is increase your Queue. ^^;
Nah, that's perfectly alright! These ideas can give me inspiration to draw all kinds of pictures I otherwise wouldn't have considered!
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Oh yeah, that - would - not - be - pretty! ^v^;
... Auntie TOS-tan! ;006
*gets high-heeled shoe thrown at her head* x__X
TOS-tan: Gimme back my shoe.
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But I definitely love the ideas... "Auntie GEM-tan" has a nice ring to it (notwithstanding that some of the nieces are actually LOWER). ^___^;
Under some bizarre circumstances it is possible to have an aunt/uncle that is younger than the niece/nephew!
QuoteGEM-tan was confined to a wheelchair for being too weak to walk but little by little with the help of her friends, she was able to muster up the strength to be able to walk again and she is very grateful for all the help she has gotten and returns the favor by helping the other Vintage-tans, especially those that really really need it (i.e: Lisa-tan, QDOS-tan, Windows 1.0-tan, 2.0-tan, Altair-tan)
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And that's too sweet of her. ^_____^
Now where'd I put that stamp of hers? ^.^
over here...
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11639/GemOS-tan_Stamp.png)
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That sounds about right -- a pretty close parallel between ][-chan to Lisa, AtariDOS-tan to AtariTOS-tan, TRSDOS-tan to CoCo-tan....
Huge contrast between siblings!:
][-chan is cheerful, friendly and very hard-working!
Lisa-chan is melancholy, and formerly spoiled!
AtariDOS-chan is a sweet and old-fashioned (but very youthful!) magician!
AtariTOS-tan is a self-conscious diva wanting to keep up with the times and in extreme denial of gettng old! She also contrasts greatly with her biological sisters [DR DOS-tan and GEM-tan] as well!
TRSDOS-chan is extremely conservative, puritanical, uptight and stubborn!
CoCo-tan is much more laid-back and much less conservative!
ZX Spectrum-chan has terrible fashion sense but is highly intelligent, a great researcher and writer!
Sinclair QL-tan has better fashion sense at least, but is extremely scatterbrained!
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One last bit of info on a potental QL-tan,...
The actual operating system for the machine is called "Sinclair QDOS"... not related, btw, to our QDOS (which is actually 86-DOS). ^^;
I knew about that, but it's still... Kinda bizarre!
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What will also be great about that picture is that it will sort of fulfill the Commodore-Amiga family picture idea you wanted to draw! On its own it was way too ambitious but splitting it into two pictures (the AROS + Morph OS 1.x + Morph OS 2 pic, and the Commodore-tans pic), it becomes more manageable!
Wow! You just give me an idea! @v@
if I can finish that picture (and I mean REALLY finish, with PETchan and C64-tan), why not import the others? After all, they're all SVG files,... it'd only be a matter of changing the lighting. ^.^
I would need to draw a new Miggy pic if I did that, or just use the one meant for the 1985 pic (as if to show that she still has the original piece). ^.^
QuoteThat is so nice, and another example that the wanderer class is not necessarily "every -tan for herself"!
Oh no -- or rather, it IS "every -tan for herself", but that just means they're free to live however they want to. Even if it means helping others under-the-table. ^.^
Quote... Auntie TOS-tan!
*gets high-heeled shoe thrown at her head* x__X
TOS-tan: Gimme back my shoe.
*realizes heel is lodged into head*
Whoops..... that's gonna be hard to pull out. ^^;
QuoteUnder some bizarre circumstances it is possible to have an aunt/uncle that is younger than the niece/nephew!
I guess I can relate from my own family. -.-
Quote][-chan is cheerful, friendly and very hard-working!
Lisa-chan is melancholy, and formerly spoiled!
AtariDOS-chan is a sweet and old-fashioned (but very youthful!) magician!
AtariTOS-tan is a self-conscious diva wanting to keep up with the times and in extreme denial of gettng old! She also contrasts greatly with her biological sisters [DR DOS-tan and GEM-tan] as well!
TRSDOS-chan is extremely conservative, puritanical, uptight and stubborn!
CoCo-tan is much more laid-back and much less conservative!
ZX Spectrum-chan has terrible fashion sense but is highly intelligent, a great researcher and writer!
Sinclair QL-tan has better fashion sense at least, but is extremely scatterbrained!
Wow! What's with all these generational gaps. ^^;
It's probably due to the strict discipline, but the Commodore-tans were all very uniform in character back in the old days. Amiga-chan was the first major disruption to their lives -- but after the company fell, they all started freeing their own unique personalities.
QuoteI knew about that, but it's still... Kinda bizarre!
Well maybe she kinda looks like her (not unlike how OS-9 and Mac OS9 look alike), but obviously taller and more developed. Probably would be an injoke to consider QL-tan as a "what-if" for QDOS-chan.
Plus, I imagine QL-tan would be the only person in the world trying to enforce the young girl's REAL name (= "86DOS-tan").
Added after 8 hours 27 minutes: BTW, very happy to announce the completion of Commodore VIC20-tan/Commodore 128-tan portraiture. At least for now... depending on how well the Xmas comic goes, I might add PETchan and C64-tan later. ^.^
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/normal_VIC20-C128-Final.png)
Large Version:
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/VIC20-C128-Final.png
QuoteActually, Linus' second computer was a Sinclair QL, the younger sister(?) to ZX Spectrum-tan. Never really thought of making a QL-tan, although the OS name for the machine is rather,... interesting,... in a conflicting kinda way. ^^;
But it was the great Linus' second computer! Somebody had better make a -tan!!!1!
BTW, Aurora, I really like your ideas. I also like C-Chan's idea to make her look a hint like QDOS-chan. :D
QuoteNah,... a lot of my associates thought of DOS as that text menu that appears right before Windows Safe Mode, or that little shell window that you get when you type "cmd" in XP's Run Prompt. Interestingly-enough, I've used my drawings (and yours/Bella's) to teach a very,..... "memorable" history about computers OSes, to help rectify that sacrilege. ^___^
Really?! Our drawings are helping somebody, somewhere, learn more about OSes!? ^///^
QuoteAs well as her encounters with OSR 2.5-tan that changed both of their lives for the better, I also hope to include:
- 2.1-tan talking about MS BOB-tan; who was hers, 3.1-tan's and 95-tan's caretaker
- MS BOB-tan running away and OSR 2.1-tan being devestated by that
(although I stated that OSR 2.1-tan was too young to remember MS BOB-tan, but maybe because of the parallels of hers and OSR 2.5-tan's stories, maybe she suddenly remembered!)
- OSR 2.1-tan's fondness of hi-tech gadgets being put to use as she was to introduce USB support to Windows
- How she ran away because of her failures, thinking that was the only way to go.
- The first competition between OSR 2.5-tan and 98-tan! OSR 2.5-tan loses and leaves too because of the competitive and "if you lose, you are a loser for life!" mentalities that had become common in their family
- Scenes of OSR 2.5-tan alone as a wanderer and wallowing in misery, barely having enough money to support herself
- The OSR 2 sisters reunite, OSR 2.1-tan helps OSR 2.5-tan get her life back together and restore her confidence!
This sounds like a good idea...I don't have much to input, though : \
QuoteShe could be DR DOS-tan's sister! And to DR DOS-tan's daughters, she is auntie GEM-chan! And because Atari TOS-tan is GEM-tan's twin sister, that'd make her auntie TOS-tan! But don't call her that though. That will make her feel old and she does not like that at all!
Ahah! This explains why GEM-chan is in the DOS' picture!
Yup! Although GEM-tan has suffered a lot (physically and mentally), she is one of the much luckier Vintage-tans; having a very supportive sister, being open-sourced, being with her neices, being close friends with Amiga-tan and also becoming Lisa-tan's best friend!
GEM-tan was confined to a wheelchair for being too weak to walk but little by little with the help of her friends, she was able to muster up the strength to be able to walk again and she is very grateful for all the help she has gotten and returns the favor by helping the other Vintage-tans, especially those that really really need it (i.e: Lisa-tan, QDOS-tan, Windows 1.0-tan, 2.0-tan, Altair-tan)
Wut? GEM is open source? I didn't know this...at any rate, GEM-tan sounds very nice and like a great person to have around!
QuoteBTW, very happy to announce the completion of Commodore VIC20-tan/Commodore 128-tan portraiture. At least for now... depending on how well the Xmas comic goes, I might add PETchan and C64-tan later. ^.^
Now THIS is my new background! :D
Just gorgeous, I really love how you did the shading; it's so dramatic. VIC20-tan is very serene and professional looking; and as I've said before, 128-tan is adorable in a very tough kinda way. I love her outfit, it's very imaginative; she has an awesome weapon, and I really like her hair, too. Her eyes are...really freaky, actually, it looks like she could melt steel off the Chrysler Building! But in a good way XD
Anyhoo, I have some interesting discoveries to tell about...I've delved into the possibly not-so-acurite yet very thought-provoking world of computer folklore!
It started as a quick snippet on a Slashdot (or...some other tech-centric forum, it eludes me right now), regarding VOS, everybody's favorite uber-powerful fault-tollerant OS.
Some know-it-all wrote:
QuoteMultics was developed with US government money, so clever folks at Honeywell, Prime and Stratus got the code for (virtually) free by filing a Freedom of Information act request. Stratus' VOS is a Multic derivative that is still for sale and used on mission critical systems such as the defense center at Cheyenne Mountain, CO not to mention stock ticker plants.
What's that, you say? VOS is a code decendant of Multics? Well, there were no references to this fact, nor do I believe that the government's input of money into the project would allow one to see the code by filing a Freedom of Information act request. But it raises a rather interesting question.
So I hopped on over to alt.folklore.computers to see what other interesting legends I could dig up...it was a mindblowingly fun waste of time, I gotta say.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.folklore.computers/topics
While there's a helluva lotta spamming going on, try doing a serch. Try typing one seemingly unrelated OS+another unrelated OS and chances are, somebody, somewhere, will have some theory that they're related.
They make a case for the NT/VMS tie, and that VMS skimmed the best features from ITS and TOPS; they have some people who are positive Linux is a hardcore Unix clone, and that Windows, well...stole from just about everyone in the industry. Don't even get me started on Multics, whom they make out to be some kind of Mitochondrial Eve of operating systems. No, really, I've seen about every OS tied back to Multics in some way. Unix, VOS, VMS (>Windows NT), certainly most timesharing systems; but even the DLL files and other common stuff found in Windows, they say, has its roots in Multics.
I dunno how this would tie into OS-tan lore, only that everybody's genetics is one big, scrambled, interelated mess ^^
QuoteReally?! Our drawings are helping somebody, somewhere, learn more about OSes!? ^///^
I know, what's the world coming to? -v-
QuoteNow THIS is my new background!
*squeals with delight*
Just imagine if I add the other characters.... ^__^
QuoteJust gorgeous, I really love how you did the shading; it's so dramatic. VIC20-tan is very serene and professional looking; and as I've said before, 128-tan is adorable in a very tough kinda way. I love her outfit, it's very imaginative; she has an awesome weapon, and I really like her hair, too. Her eyes are...really freaky, actually, it looks like she could melt steel off the Chrysler Building! But in a good way XD
Ah... feeling a bit of deja vu. By VIC20-tan, I believe you mean C128-san, and by C128-tan I think you mean VIC20-chan. Part of the whole "younger -tans look older" thing. ^__^'
VIC20-tan's weapon is an M1903 Springfield service rifle, not unlike the one used by Triela in Gunslinger Girl. At first glance the bayonet seems to be missing,... but it's there somewhere..... ^__~
Should probably note that C128-tan also carries a small firearm as well, but she's far better at concealing it than her own older sister.
Ironically, PETchan's eyes are actually scarier than VIC20-chan's -- I can imagine her steely gaze was a result of trying to imitate her older sister (who now prefers to keep them shut perpetually). ^^
QuoteI dunno how this would tie into OS-tan lore, only that everybody's genetics is one big, scrambled, interelated mess ^^
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After all that,... we're really back where we started then, aren't we? ^_______^;
Gotta disappear for now,... have a UNIX panel to fix, a CIOST panel to start, Python to practice and some of your art to drool over. ^.^
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Wow! You just give me an idea! @v@
if I can finish that picture (and I mean REALLY finish, with PETchan and C64-tan), why not import the others? After all, they're all SVG files,... it'd only be a matter of changing the lighting. ^.^
Your original idea fulfilled!
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I would need to draw a new Miggy pic if I did that, or just use the one meant for the 1985 pic (as if to show that she still has the original piece). ^.^
Oh! That's right! Amiga-sama isn't in either of them! But you'd need to change the clothes, hair and face if using the Amiga-sama pic from that 1985 portraiture. But that shouldn't be too much of a problem since you are working with SVGs (well, at least less of a problem than if trying to do it with raster graphics!)
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Oh no -- or rather, it IS "every -tan for herself", but that just means they're free to live however they want to. Even if it means helping others under-the-table. ^.^
True, the wanderers are out fending for themselves (hence the "every -tan for herself") but it's not completely that way because some wanders band together and a few are willing to help others out.
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*realizes heel is lodged into head*
Whoops..... that's gonna be hard to pull out. ^^;
AAAAAAAAH! The heel is poked into my BRAAAAAAIN!
Okay, just try to yank the shoe out as quickly as possible. I'll be in excruciating pain, but probably less than if it were yanked out slowly.
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Wow! What's with all these generational gaps. ^^;
Crazy, huh? Also, there is a huge generation gap between the Windows-tans, and a series of generation gaps between the Mac-tans!
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It's probably due to the strict discipline, but the Commodore-tans were all very uniform in character back in the old days. Amiga-chan was the first major disruption to their lives -- but after the company fell, they all started freeing their own unique personalities.
I do recall reading that Amiga-sama was not liked at all by the Commodore-tans (maybe except for C128-san, who was at least nice enough to be even remotely welcoming of her) back then, and I wonder if that is the reason!
Of course I know that C64-tan especially hated Amiga-sama because of her musical abilities. Now how did they reconcile?!
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Well maybe she kinda looks like her (not unlike how OS-9 and Mac OS9 look alike), but obviously taller and more developed. Probably would be an injoke to consider QL-tan as a "what-if" for QDOS-chan.
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But it was the great Linus' second computer! Somebody had better make a -tan!!!1!
BTW, Aurora, I really like your ideas. I also like C-Chan's idea to make her look a hint like QDOS-chan. :D
Okay! Sinclair QL-tan coming up!
Well... she's almost be a "what-if" for QDOS-chan, except for the fact that QL-tan is extremely scatterbrained.
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BTW, very happy to announce the completion of Commodore VIC20-tan/Commodore 128-tan portraiture. At least for now... depending on how well the Xmas comic goes, I might add PETchan and C64-tan later. ^.^
http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10570/normal_VIC20-C128-Final.png
Wow! The finalized lighting and shading are beautiful! ;019
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Really?! Our drawings are helping somebody, somewhere, learn more about OSes!? ^///^
Awesome!
I really like the OS-tans not just because of their cuteness but also their backstories and that I have learned so much more about computers and OSes since joining (err... first posting on) OSC!
For example: I knew of the Amiga but didn't know it had descendants [Morph OS and AROS], I knew of the Commodore 64 and PET but not the VIC-20 or 128. I knew a little about FreeBSD and BSD but didn't know there were many other BSD variants! Nor did I know there were OSes around before Bell Labs Unix. Or that Windows NT and its descendants aren't really related to the other Windows OSes. And then I learned all about the DEC OSes! I now know all the OSes from Apple (the only one I never heard of before joining was A/UX)!
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Wut? GEM is open source? I didn't know this...at any rate, GEM-tan sounds very nice and like a great person to have around!
GEM was open sourced by Novell in 1999 (Novell bought out Digital Research in the early 1990's). And IIRC, DR-DOS was open sourced under a different name.
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They make a case for the NT/VMS tie, and that VMS skimmed the best features from ITS and TOPS; they have some people who are positive Linux is a hardcore Unix clone, and that Windows, well...stole from just about everyone in the industry. Don't even get me started on Multics, whom they make out to be some kind of Mitochondrial Eve of operating systems. No, really, I've seen about every OS tied back to Multics in some way. Unix, VOS, VMS (>Windows NT), certainly most timesharing systems; but even the DLL files and other common stuff found in Windows, they say, has its roots in Multics.
That is very interesting and I know that Multics and Unix are extremely influential, but I'm still skeptical about the claim that every OS being tied back to Multics though.
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I dunno how this would tie into OS-tan lore, only that everybody's genetics is one big, scrambled, interelated mess ^^
But if that's true, that would mean everyone would be family!
QuoteWow! You just give me an idea! @v@
if I can finish that picture (and I mean REALLY finish, with PETchan and C64-tan), why not import the others? After all, they're all SVG files,... it'd only be a matter of changing the lighting. ^.^
Wow...that's not a bad idea...
QuoteIt's probably due to the strict discipline, but the Commodore-tans were all very uniform in character back in the old days. Amiga-chan was the first major disruption to their lives -- but after the company fell, they all started freeing their own unique personalities.
I always thought the Commodore-tans were pretty fun-loving; I didn't know that they had that strict a military order.
QuoteAh... feeling a bit of deja vu. By VIC20-tan, I believe you mean C128-san, and by C128-tan I think you mean VIC20-chan. Part of the whole "younger -tans look older" thing. ^__^'
VIC20-tan's weapon is an M1903 Springfield service rifle, not unlike the one used by Triela in Gunslinger Girl. At first glance the bayonet seems to be missing,... but it's there somewhere..... ^__~
Should probably note that C128-tan also carries a small firearm as well, but she's far better at concealing it than her own older sister.
Ironically, PETchan's eyes are actually scarier than VIC20-chan's -- I can imagine her steely gaze was a result of trying to imitate her older sister (who now prefers to keep them shut perpetually). ^^
Oh lawd....get me a pointy hat 'cause I'm officially a dunce >____<
About the bayonet, is it folded up or something? And is that a knife on her right leg?
And PET-chan has scary eyes? No wai! She seems so sweet!
*imagines VIC20, PET-chan and Unix-sama three-way stare-off contest*
Yeah, that would probably cause a China Syndrome-like meltdown...@___@
QuoteAwesome!
I really like the OS-tans not just because of their cuteness but also their backstories and that I have learned so much more about computers and OSes since joining (err... first posting on) OSC!
For example: I knew of the Amiga but didn't know it had descendants [Morph OS and AROS], I knew of the Commodore 64 and PET but not the VIC-20 or 128. I knew a little about FreeBSD and BSD but didn't know there were many other BSD variants! Nor did I know there were OSes around before Bell Labs Unix. Or that Windows NT and its descendants aren't really related to the other Windows OSes. And then I learned all about the DEC OSes! I now know all the OSes from Apple (the only one I never heard of before joining was A/UX)!
Before joining, I think I knew more about the history of modern computers than older ones. I knew all about Windows and a lot about Mac, and had heard of Linux and Unix but didn't know much about them; same goes for some vintage computers, like the Commodores and the Altair and stuff. I hadn't heard of any antique (pre 70s) OSes, not did I know about VMS or any of the DEC OSes.
QuoteGEM was open sourced by Novell in 1999 (Novell bought out Digital Research in the early 1990's). And IIRC, DR-DOS was open sourced under a different name.
Oh, I see...
QuoteThat is very interesting and I know that Multics and Unix are extremely influential, but I'm still skeptical about the claim that every OS being tied back to Multics though.
Just for instance, they refer to (and Wikipedia backs up the fact that) object segments in Multics being a precursor of DLL files. Does that make Windows related to Multics? No. Does the case that a feature inside Windows has its roots Multics? Yeah.
QuoteBut if that's true, that would mean everyone would be family!
Again, I think it depends of your idea of what family is. Just as all humans (or any members of a species) are "related" in a way because they all contain common genetics, have bodies that work generally the same way, and have some similar mental or emotional traits, a great deal of OSes have common traits.
Does this make all OSes related? No, I think only code or acting very much like another OS can make a case for two OSes being related. But most do share some common points. So it depends on what you think is "family" ;)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/img019-1.jpg)
Oh look, it's a bunch of app-kuns and an app-tan! My first serious drawings of anime-style boys ^_^
On the right, that's either ed-kun or vi-kun. I hadn't decided which, but I figured both would share some relation. So...supposing he's ed-kun, he'd be quite difficult and shy and misunderstood, and he would be friends with Unix-sama (as ed was the first Unix text editor, written by Ken Thompson) as well as some of the older Unixen.
Next in line is Red-kun. Red is a VMS text editor. This character just kinda popped into my head-- a wild-eyed, hot-headed guy, always looking for a fight and who never knows when to hold back. Kinda the complete opposite of the suave, stoic VMS-sama. They'd constantly be fighting about everything, like an old married couple XD
Next up is Emacs-kun, you're stereotypical sensitive, smart, wavy haired bohemian/hippie guy who all the young Unix and Linux-tans swoon over. He was born in the golden age of the MIT hacker culture, and would have looked to ITS-san as something of a friend and mentor in his youth (as ITS was the OS Emacs was built on), as well as befriending TOPS and Tenex-tan as some point.
As for heights of these guys...maybe...4' 9'', 5' 7'' (shorter than VMS-sama! ZOMG!), and a good 5' 10'', 11'' or so. XD
Ehm...next in line is VLC-tan. Cause VLC is a nice little media player.
Boys! And applications! Both are so underrepresented here (though not unrepresented). Great job, Bella-san!
^ Hear hear!
I should also note that all three of these -kuns are avid writers and readers. In fact, the only thing VMS-sama can do to shut Red-kun up is pile a bunch of books in front of him. I suppose only while reading would he be busy enough to stop his diatribes about...everything XD
That ed-kun or vi-kun is cute! I like how Red-kun is the opposite of VMS-sama in personality and Emacs-kun is so handsome! VLC-tan is very cute too (I have VLC on my computer!) and very close to the preconcept I had in mind for her (short hair, traffic cone hat but I had no idea for her outfit. I also had in mind that her traffic cone hat doubles as a megaphone!)
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Oh! That's right! Amiga-sama isn't in either of them! But you'd need to change the clothes, hair and face if using the Amiga-sama pic from that 1985 portraiture. But that shouldn't be too much of a problem since you are working with SVGs (well, at least less of a problem than if trying to do it with raster graphics!)
Or,... I could just assume that she went for the "retro" look that day for the sake of the picture. After all, she wears the same hat and has the same eyes and has only grown a little bit more,... all she would need to do is don her old cadet uniform and tie her hair in pigtails. ^__^
But I suppose it wouldn't hurt to mature the face a bit... after all, she should start acting a little more like a mother than a bright-eyed pup. ^^
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AAAAAAAAH! The heel is poked into my BRAAAAAAIN!
Okay, just try to yank the shoe out as quickly as possible. I'll be in excruciating pain, but probably less than if it were yanked out slowly.
Oh wait,... you want ME to do that?! No way, suppose the hole starts squirting brain fluid at me?!! @__@
...
And besides, you might want to consider... you know... bending down a bit first........ ¬¬'
*oinks a bit, as if to give Aurora a clue*
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I do recall reading that Amiga-sama was not liked at all by the Commodore-tans (maybe except for C128-san, who was at least nice enough to be even remotely welcoming of her) back then, and I wonder if that is the reason!
In part yes, although a big part centered around the fact that their "Father" had been dismissed from the company by what they considered to be a chain of "baffoons" up in high command. And it just so happens that the newly adopted Amiga-chan was the unwitting darling-child of those baffoons.
Had they known the Commodore family would die out by the 90's, they would have at least tried to reconcile their differences early and help propel their stepsister to new heights. But since they believed their own propaganda (what with so many victories in the market), it never occurred to them at the time that the Commodore Family would have no future -- hence, they wasted their time with needless animosity.
QuoteOf course I know that C64-tan especially hated Amiga-sama because of her musical abilities. Now how did they reconcile?!
Probably took about 15 years. ^__^
Amiga-san wasn't around by the time Commodore crashed and burned, so the remaining Commodore sisters parted their own separate ways as Wanderers. C64-tan probably didn't give her stepsister much thought until she came across the fledgling Binteji Renmei which Amiga-san helped put together (accompanied by a much friendlier, almost alien PET-chan, who by then had already joined and made amends for her previous misbehavior).
The fact that her stepsister was not only doing something wonderful for other people in their predicament, but also never wavered from her sweet, friendly and honest convictions, likely moved C64-tan to tears. At this point, she would literally beg Amiga-san for forgiveness (and of course, Amiga-san wouldn't have a single idea of what she was talking about, which would only make C64-tan cry more).
During the ensuing weeks, they would have been together longer than during the entirety of their lives at Commodore HQ.
And after about two months, once C64-tan was sufficiently broken in as the resident Tech Geek, musician and gamer, their relationship would have been as indistinguishable as that of any real sisters, remaining so to this day. ^^
QuoteWell... she's almost be a "what-if" for QDOS-chan, except for the fact that QL-tan is extremely scatterbrained.
Meaning QDOS-chan is only scatterbrained to a lesser degree of extreme? ^.^;
QuoteWow! The finalized lighting and shading are beautiful!
Thank you! ^__^
We'll see if I can squeeze anything in when more characters get squeezed in there. ^>^
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For example: I knew of the Amiga but didn't know it had descendants [Morph OS and AROS], I knew of the Commodore 64 and PET but not the VIC-20 or 128. I knew a little about FreeBSD and BSD but didn't know there were many other BSD variants! Nor did I know there were OSes around before Bell Labs Unix. Or that Windows NT and its descendants aren't really related to the other Windows OSes. And then I learned all about the DEC OSes! I now know all the OSes from Apple (the only one I never heard of before joining was A/UX)!
Well I think I've said this before, but I agree that being in this forum, working on the projects that we do, has offered me an EXPLOSION of knowledged about operating systems, computers in general, and their history thereof. It's one of those instances where learning is fun. ^-^
QuoteWow...that's not a bad idea...
Course, I might be afraid to do this only because the lighting might get tricky. ^^;
MOS-chan's wings, MOS2-chan's bow and both their eyes are luminiscent, so it will disrupt the kind of long 9 o'clock shading you see on C128-san and VIC20-chan. @@
That, and... well... still have to draw your BSDs first, you know. ^_^;
QuoteI always thought the Commodore-tans were pretty fun-loving; I didn't know that they had that strict a military order.
Like I said in another post, I think off-duty they would have plenty of fun in the rec room, on shore leave, in crew quarters, etc. They would do everything from attending fine dignitary parties (like the one in Aurora's comic), to waste quarter after quarter in the local arcades (playing state-of-the-art masterpieces like Donkey Kong and PacMan).
They might have even attended an event sponsored by one of their rivals (think, AtariTOS-chan), only to play a small prank that more than often led to a small riot.
Yeah, they were not devoid of fun if that's what you're wondering. ^__~
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Oh lawd....get me a pointy hat 'cause I'm officially a dunce >____<
About the bayonet, is it folded up or something? And is that a knife on her right leg?
Funny how you answered your quesiton with a question.... ^^;
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And PET-chan has scary eyes? No wai! She seems so sweet!
*imagines VIC20, PET-chan and Unix-sama three-way stare-off contest*
Yeah, that would probably cause a China Syndrome-like meltdown...@___@
Touche. ^__^
She looks sweet cause she keeps them closed. But that's one of the delicious ironies I wanted to add to her character. ^___^
I wanted the trio (PET-chan, II-chan, AtariDOS-chan) to have something shockingly-mature that counterbalances their overly-cute and young appearance. ][-chan has the most obvious traits, AtariDOS-chan the least obvious.
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Just for instance, they refer to (and Wikipedia backs up the fact that) object segments in Multics being a precursor of DLL files. Does that make Windows related to Multics? No. Does the case that a feature inside Windows has its roots Multics? Yeah.
That's actually what I was thinking myself. ^__^
Using that reasoning, I could make the case that Windows is related to coal, because coal is a precursor to the electricity that's eventually used to run Windows. ^v^;
QuoteOh look, it's a bunch of app-kuns and an app-tan! My first serious drawings of anime-style boys
Wow! Now that you mention it, you're right! I only remember seeing the DEC commander, the UNIX-sama followers, and a few random men in your latest Linux-sama comics. ^__^
Then again,... I dunno....
I still have the feeling that we're forgetting some long-lost -kuns you may have drawn before.....
...
or am I thinking of Aurora-hime's Mac-kuns? '_'
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On the right, that's either ed-kun or vi-kun. I hadn't decided which, but I figured both would share some relation. So...supposing he's ed-kun, he'd be quite difficult and shy and misunderstood, and he would be friends with Unix-sama (as ed was the first Unix text editor, written by Ken Thompson) as well as some of the older Unixen.
I'll go with Vi-kun, just to get his design out of the way. ^___^
Seems like a cross between Negi-sensei from Mahou Sensei Negima and Conan from Detective Conan -- which according to the former series, essentially GUARANTEES a huge following of rabid fangirls. ^^;
And he's UNIX-sama's height (or an inch shorter? I forget) -- this, the C-chan approves. ^^
Red-kun... BWAHAHAHA! ^v^
Unexpected but definitely welcomed. The dude looks like an OSX-kun prototype, minus the cat head. ^__^
I imagine he'd be a longtime "friend" of VMS-sama, stretching back to the days when she was a hot-blooded DEC officer herself. ^.^
Fufu... married couple-like arguments -- as if VMS-sama didn't have enough on her hands evading the stalking of her two fangirls/daughter(s?). ^.^
Approve enthusiastically on the height differential -- I am happy none of us seems to suffer from the dreaded "Hollywood Immutable Casting Syndrome" (or "HICS" for short). ^__^
Emacs-kun is not only perfect (in form and backstory), but after watching Battlestar Galactica I would comfortably say he reminds me of the character Gaius Baltar. That may not be a compliment depending on what you think of Dr. Baltar, but certainly his looks, his suave composure, and his intellectual fame makes the comparison more appropriate than none. ^___^
Just to be on the safe side, make sure he abides by the adage that "Loose Lips Sink Ships". ^___________^;
QuoteEhm...next in line is VLC-tan. Cause VLC is a nice little media player.
Oh,... now you dun it.... -v-
*C-chan EXPLODES... Olympic-style*
(http://i3.sinaimg.cn/2008/en/photo/2008-08-24/U3134P461T74D8239F1661DT20080824223329.jpg)
QuoteIn part yes, although a big part centered around the fact that their "Father" had been dismissed from the company by what they considered to be a chain of "baffoons" up in high command. And it just so happens that the newly adopted Amiga-chan was the unwitting darling-child of those baffoons.
Had they known the Commodore family would die out by the 90's, they would have at least tried to reconcile their differences early and help propel their stepsister to new heights. But since they believed their own propaganda (what with so many victories in the market), it never occurred to them at the time that the Commodore Family would have no future -- hence, they wasted their time with needless animosity.
You’ll have to excuse me because I haven’t researched Commodore history as much as I’d like to, so I don’t know what RL parallels this draws on. But you almost make it seem like Miggy-chan was to these corporate types what Lisa-chan to her Father…another ambitious system that never made it big…?
QuoteProbably took about 15 years. ^__^
Amiga-san wasn't around by the time Commodore crashed and burned, so the remaining Commodore sisters parted their own separate ways as Wanderers. C64-tan probably didn't give her stepsister much thought until she came across the fledgling Binteji Renmei which Amiga-san helped put together (accompanied by a much friendlier, almost alien PET-chan, who by then had already joined and made amends for her previous misbehavior).
The fact that her stepsister was not only doing something wonderful for other people in their predicament, but also never wavered from her sweet, friendly and honest convictions, likely moved C64-tan to tears. At this point, she would literally beg Amiga-san for forgiveness (and of course, Amiga-san wouldn't have a single idea of what she was talking about, which would only make C64-tan cry more).
During the ensuing weeks, they would have been together longer than during the entirety of their lives at Commodore HQ.
And after about two months, once C64-tan was sufficiently broken in as the resident Tech Geek, musician and gamer, their relationship would have been as indistinguishable as that of any real sisters, remaining so to this day. ^^
Awww, how sweet. :)
You know, a few days back I was on eBay…looking for some photography equipment…when I got a bit distracted and started looking at vintage computers. My gawd I didn’t know there were so many C64s still out there! Not to mention the ZX Spectrums, the Russian clones, the Amiga computers, and the PDP-11 I found for sale…in NH! For only $800! A steal, I say!
Curse the lack of space in my home! XD
QuoteWell I think I've said this before, but I agree that being in this forum, working on the projects that we do, has offered me an EXPLOSION of knowledged about operating systems, computers in general, and their history thereof. It's one of those instances where learning is fun. ^-^
I concur! I always loved reading about the history of computers, but I really didn’t know as much about the OSes themselves. So this has been a big learning experience for me.
QuoteCourse, I might be afraid to do this only because the lighting might get tricky. ^^;
MOS-chan's wings, MOS2-chan's bow and both their eyes are luminiscent, so it will disrupt the kind of long 9 o'clock shading you see on C128-san and VIC20-chan. @@
That, and... well... still have to draw your BSDs first, you know.
Couldn’t you just…lessen the luminescence or something…?
And you still want to draw the BSDs?
QuoteLike I said in another post, I think off-duty they would have plenty of fun in the rec room, on shore leave, in crew quarters, etc. They would do everything from attending fine dignitary parties (like the one in Aurora's comic), to waste quarter after quarter in the local arcades (playing state-of-the-art masterpieces like Donkey Kong and PacMan).
They might have even attended an event sponsored by one of their rivals (think, AtariTOS-chan), only to play a small prank that more than often led to a small riot.
Ummm…was it a concert….?
QuoteThat's actually what I was thinking myself. ^__^
Using that reasoning, I could make the case that Windows is related to coal, because coal is a precursor to the electricity that's eventually used to run Windows. ^v^;
Yeah but by that reasoning, we could tie the just about anyone or anything to anything else…
QuoteWow! Now that you mention it, you're right! I only remember seeing the DEC commander, the UNIX-sama followers, and a few random men in your latest Linux-sama comics. ^__^
Then again,... I dunno....
I still have the feeling that we're forgetting some long-lost -kuns you may have drawn before.....
...
or am I thinking of Aurora-hime's Mac-kuns? '_'
I think you’re thinking of Aurora’s drawings…I remember those Mac-kuns.
QuoteI'll go with Vi-kun, just to get his design out of the way. ^___^
Seems like a cross between Negi-sensei from Mahou Sensei Negima and Conan from Detective Conan -- which according to the former series, essentially GUARANTEES a huge following of rabid fangirls. ^^;
And he's UNIX-sama's height (or an inch shorter? I forget) -- this, the C-chan approves. ^^
Yeah, he’s just a little shorter than Unix-sama :P
QuoteRed-kun... BWAHAHAHA! ^v^
Unexpected but definitely welcomed. The dude looks like an OSX-kun prototype, minus the cat head. ^__^
I imagine he'd be a longtime "friend" of VMS-sama, stretching back to the days when she was a hot-blooded DEC officer herself. ^.^
Fufu... married couple-like arguments -- as if VMS-sama didn't have enough on her hands evading the stalking of her two fangirls/daughter(s?). ^.^
Approve enthusiastically on the height differential -- I am happy none of us seems to suffer from the dreaded "Hollywood Immutable Casting Syndrome" (or "HICS" for short). ^__^
Emacs-kun is not only perfect (in form and backstory), but after watching Battlestar Galactica I would comfortably say he reminds me of the character Gaius Baltar. That may not be a compliment depending on what you think of Dr. Baltar, but certainly his looks, his suave composure, and his intellectual fame makes the comparison more appropriate than none. ^___^
Just to be on the safe side, make sure he abides by the adage that "Loose Lips Sink Ships". ^___________^;
Does Dr. Baltar enjoy long walks on the beach, poetry slams and acoustic guitar? ‘Cause I’m sure Emacs-kun would >:P
QuoteOh,... now you dun it.... -v-
*C-chan EXPLODES... Olympic-style*
What? You asploding for a sketch I doodled up in a few minutes? XD
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Or,... I could just assume that she went for the "retro" look that day for the sake of the picture. After all, she wears the same hat and has the same eyes and has only grown a little bit more,... all she would need to do is don her old cadet uniform and tie her hair in pigtails. ^__^
But I suppose it wouldn't hurt to mature the face a bit... after all, she should start acting a little more like a mother than a bright-eyed pup. ^^
That's good too! Not only would it be cool to see that the present day (or near future) Amiga-tan still has her old uniform, it's much easier than replacing her whole outfit!
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Oh wait,... you want ME to do that?! No way, suppose the hole starts squirting brain fluid at me?!! @__@
...
And besides, you might want to consider... you know... bending down a bit first........ ¬¬'
*oinks a bit, as if to give Aurora a clue*
But I'm afriad that I'll fall ovre if I bend down bewcause TOS-tan sncuk behidn me ad n thrwe her shue inot teh back of me heda adn bran wereh coorndatin taek pa-- eqrwjkzvnm weaioh vnas;kjfk;w!
*yanks shoe out of head* Ha ha!
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In part yes, although a big part centered around the fact that their "Father" had been dismissed from the company by what they considered to be a chain of "baffoons" up in high command. And it just so happens that the newly adopted Amiga-chan was the unwitting darling-child of those baffoons.
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You’ll have to excuse me because I haven’t researched Commodore history as much as I’d like to, so I don’t know what RL parallels this draws on. But you almost make it seem like Miggy-chan was to these corporate types what Lisa-chan to her Father…another ambitious system that never made it big…?
I do remember that Tramiel left Commodore in 1984, with other people taking control. Were these new people in control involved with the Amiga?
I also imagine that back then the Commodore-tans would have hated Atari TOS-tan because after Tramiel left, he formed his own company (Tramel Technology) that bought out part of Atari Inc. to form Atari Corporation which developed the Atari ST which was released shortly before the Amiga.
Which is akin to that the Mac-tans used to hate NeXTSTEP-tan because of Jobs leaving Apple (he was fired) and forming NeXT. Yet it is a different story because the NeXT machines did not actually compete with the Macs very much but rather the high-end workstations (there were a few Macintosh workstations released in the 90's) while the Atari ST directly competed with the Commodore machines and they were each other's main competitors.
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Had they known the Commodore family would die out by the 90's, they would have at least tried to reconcile their differences early and help propel their stepsister to new heights. But since they believed their own propaganda (what with so many victories in the market), it never occurred to them at the time that the Commodore Family would have no future -- hence, they wasted their time with needless animosity.
Them Commodore-tans... They sure were formidable but so short-sighted, unprepared for the worst and didn't shape up in time :(
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Probably took about 15 years. ^__^
Amiga-san wasn't around by the time Commodore crashed and burned...
I know that the rights and trademarks to the Amiga have been bought out by other companies, but did it first happen shortly before Commodore's demise?
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...so the remaining Commodore sisters parted their own separate ways as Wanderers. C64-tan probably didn't give her stepsister much thought until she came across the fledgling Binteji Renmei which Amiga-san helped put together (accompanied by a much friendlier, almost alien PET-chan, who by then had already joined and made amends for her previous misbehavior).
Wow!
PET-chan much friendlier than she used to be?! (she used to be mean?! And misbehave a lot?!) Now I wonder how she reconciled with Amiga-sama!
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The fact that her stepsister was not only doing something wonderful for other people in their predicament, but also never wavered from her sweet, friendly and honest convictions, likely moved C64-tan to tears. At this point, she would literally beg Amiga-san for forgiveness (and of course, Amiga-san wouldn't have a single idea of what she was talking about, which would only make C64-tan cry more).
During the ensuing weeks, they would have been together longer than during the entirety of their lives at Commodore HQ.
So much sap! And that Amiga-sama didn't know what C64-tan was talking about when begging for forgiveness shows that Amiga-sama did not think ill of her stepsisters at all!
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And after about two months, once C64-tan was sufficiently broken in as the resident Tech Geek, musician and gamer, their relationship would have been as indistinguishable as that of any real sisters, remaining so to this day. ^^
Awesome!
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Meaning QDOS-chan is only scatterbrained to a lesser degree of extreme? ^.^;
Uhh... I don't know! X__x
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Well I think I've said this before, but I agree that being in this forum, working on the projects that we do, has offered me an EXPLOSION of knowledged about operating systems, computers in general, and their history thereof. It's one of those instances where learning is fun. ^-^
I've even impressed people IRL about my recently-acquired knowledge of other OSes, most of which I learned about on OSC!
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Course, I might be afraid to do this only because the lighting might get tricky. ^^;
MOS-chan's wings, MOS2-chan's bow and both their eyes are luminiscent, so it will disrupt the kind of long 9 o'clock shading you see on C128-san and VIC20-chan. @@
That is tough!
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That, and... well... still have to draw your BSDs first, you know. ^_^;
I didn't forget about them either!
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And PET-chan has scary eyes? No wai! She seems so sweet!
*imagines VIC20, PET-chan and Unix-sama three-way stare-off contest*
Yeah, that would probably cause a China Syndrome-like meltdown...@___@
That just gave me inspiration for a ZS mini-arc! A staring contest tournament! :D
And yes the finalists would be Unix-sama and PET-chan!
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Touche. ^__^
She looks sweet cause she keeps them closed. But that's one of the delicious ironies I wanted to add to her character. ^___^
I want to see PET-chan with scary eyes!
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I wanted the trio (PET-chan, II-chan, AtariDOS-chan) to have something shockingly-mature that counterbalances their overly-cute and young appearance. ][-chan has the most obvious traits, AtariDOS-chan the least obvious.
Well... PET-chan's got the scary eyes. Apple ][-chan is very mature and wise beyond her years and uhh... not sure about Atari DOS-chan though (she was the breadwinner of her family?) But then again, her surprisingly mature trait is the least obvious!
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You know, a few days back I was on eBay…looking for some photography equipment…when I got a bit distracted and started looking at vintage computers. My gawd I didn’t know there were so many C64s still out there! Not to mention the ZX Spectrums, the Russian clones, the Amiga computers, and the PDP-11 I found for sale…in NH! For only $800! A steal, I say!
Curse the lack of space in my home! XD
Found a bunch of C64's? DO WANT! And you are so lucky being able to find a PDP-11 for sale online for such a price!
Sooo...guys.
Who's gonna make Chrome-tan?
Take it while she's up for grabs. Won't be long!
Actually, there are already several drawings of Chrome-tan on nijiura.com, and the first ones were made the day on or after Chrome's release!
Now that's more like it! Care to share some with us, Aurora-dono?
Oh shoot, I forgot all about this thread? ' ';
*starts typing*
Added after 1 hours 31 minutes: QuoteYou’ll have to excuse me because I haven’t researched Commodore history as much as I’d like to, so I don’t know what RL parallels this draws on. But you almost make it seem like Miggy-chan was to these corporate types what Lisa-chan to her Father…another ambitious system that never made it big…?
Kind of, although the big difference was that she actually DESERVED the attention, and she also made it big in some areas. However, she WAS expensive relative to other systems, and she WAS very badly marketed. I recall Pitkin's thoughts on the old Amiga advertisements being analgous to Kentucky Fried Chicken commercials marketing it as "Warm Dead Bird".
And the intention was to shift towards the Amiga line entirely (much like Apple II was displaced with Macintosh), although naturally that didn't go quite their way. -v-
QuoteAwww, how sweet.
You know, a few days back I was on eBay…looking for some photography equipment…when I got a bit distracted and started looking at vintage computers. My gawd I didn’t know there were so many C64s still out there! Not to mention the ZX Spectrums, the Russian clones, the Amiga computers, and the PDP-11 I found for sale…in NH! For only $800! A steal, I say!
Curse the lack of space in my home! XD
Well a Pan-chan (=C64) doesn't take up much space, ya know. ^>^
*nudges Bella*
QuoteCouldn’t you just…lessen the luminescence or something…?
Nope. -v-
QuoteAnd you still want to draw the BSDs?
Yep. ^^
QuoteUmmm…was it a concert….?
Course. Imagine AtariTOS-chan adlibing her songs as usual, and then having the track get replaced by something clearly not 80's music... or even distinctly feminine.... ^^;
Could have also been a game of sorts too -- she might have tried to showcase her skills wielding the legendary 7800 Light Gun, only to find it mysteriously replaced with a Nintendo Zapper. ^^;
You know... standard rivalry humor. I'm sure it worked the other way around too, what with AtariDOS-chan being a magician and all. ^___^
QuoteDoes Dr. Baltar enjoy long walks on the beach, poetry slams and acoustic guitar? ‘Cause I’m sure Emacs-kun would >:P
He might if he didn't spend the entire series in space. ^v^;
On the other hand, I do doubt Emacs-kun would be as......... chronically promiscuous..... ^^;
QuoteWhat? You asploding for a sketch I doodled up in a few minutes? XD
Yeah! And here's the medical bill for it too! `v'
QuoteThat's good too! Not only would it be cool to see that the present day (or near future) Amiga-tan still has her old uniform, it's much easier than replacing her whole outfit!
And just between you and me........... I do kinda like the old uniform. ^^;
She never wears it, though, as it's irreplaceable -- once it's damaged, it's damaged for good with no replacement available anymore. -.-
On the other hand, she can buy boingball shirts by the gross. ^.^
QuoteI do remember that Tramiel left Commodore in 1984, with other people taking control. Were these new people in control involved with the Amiga?
Yes, I would say so. Tramiel was still around when Commodore was still building its *Nix box, but still eyeing developments from the Amiga team. But it was after Tramiel left that Commodore acquired it and embraced it.
It's an oversimplication, so you can read the whole dark and dirty history here... ^___^
http://www.amigau.com/aig/ahistory.html
QuoteI also imagine that back then the Commodore-tans would have hated Atari TOS-tan because after Tramiel left, he formed his own company (Tramel Technology) that bought out part of Atari Inc. to form Atari Corporation which developed the Atari ST which was released shortly before the Amiga.
Which is akin to that the Mac-tans used to hate NeXTSTEP-tan because of Jobs leaving Apple (he was fired) and forming NeXT. Yet it is a different story because the NeXT machines did not actually compete with the Macs very much but rather the high-end workstations (there were a few Macintosh workstations released in the 90's) while the Atari ST directly competed with the Commodore machines and they were each other's main competitors.
More than that, Tramiel also sued Commodore (although only after it sued him and the team that left with him), so there might have been a feeling amongst the Commodore-tans that their father had betrayed them. Since they operated under strict discipline, though, they never would have expressed their feelings any which way -- but in private, they would have felt hurt.
Had he stayed, maybe there would never have been an Amiga line, and subsequent Commodore systems would have simply continued the lineage (in fact, a successor WAS in the works already).
QuoteThem Commodore-tans... They sure were formidable but so short-sighted, unprepared for the worst and didn't shape up in time
Profit-motives tend to be very intolerant to long-term projections. ^.^
Ironically, the Commodore-tans are much more resourceful now than when they were still in the service.
QuoteI know that the rights and trademarks to the Amiga have been bought out by other companies, but did it first happen shortly before Commodore's demise?
That I don't remember (probably dug in that link I posted above), but more than likely it was sold off before.
QuoteWow!
PET-chan much friendlier than she used to be?! (she used to be mean?! And misbehave a lot?!) Now I wonder how she reconciled with Amiga-sama!
Perhaps strict and austere is better than "mean", but considering Amiga-san's personality, PET-chan realizes now how inappropriate her behavior might have seemd to the young cadet. Imagine a young Amiga-chan trying to decorate PET-chan's cabin with flowers, but then receiving a scolding by her for A) putting up stuff that was against regulations, B) entering her cabin without permission, C) abandoning her post, D) being late, E) saluting the wrong way, F) not wiping that stupid smile when told to, G) pretending to not know where the brig is, H) etc.
PET-chan, however, would have changed a lot on her own as a Wanderer -- certainly seeing how old and helpless she was on her own during the OS wars might have humbled her considerably. Once she met Amiga and ][-chan, she would have already been quite willing to put the past behind her along with them and start fresh.
QuoteUhh... I don't know! X__x
FYI, I don't liken QDOS-chan to Osaka (from Azumanga Daioh) for no good reason. ^___^
Remember that part where she's shoveling coal? ^.^
QuoteThat just gave me inspiration for a ZS mini-arc! A staring contest tournament!
And yes the finalists would be Unix-sama and PET-chan!
Now now! There are still TONS of scary-eyed OS-tans lying around. ^____^
GECOS-sama for one.... z/OS-sama as another...... -v-
QuoteI want to see PET-chan with scary eyes!
You and me both. In time, ma dear. In time. ^.^
QuoteWell... PET-chan's got the scary eyes. Apple ][-chan is very mature and wise beyond her years and uhh... not sure about Atari DOS-chan though (she was the breadwinner of her family?) But then again, her surprisingly mature trait is the least obvious!
It has to do with her trade -- she's a surprisingly competent magician, even though she always gives the impression she's a timid, bumbling beginner. In fact, she often works that into her act -- struggling (with pouty face and everything) to pull a bunny out of a hat, letting some more hilarity ensue, and then finishing with an epic finale where a whole HERD of bunnies swarm out of the hat. Or a polar bear with bunny ears. Or a television with Plan9-sama wondering why the hell there are TV cameras in her bedroom. ^^'
She knows all the rules of the trade, and knows how to entertain everyone young and old with magic that, while not particularly modern or flashy, is very effective and thought provoking. ^^
On the other hand, she has a nasty habit of misplacing her Prestige notes, so a lot of ad-libbing is required. ^____^;
QuoteActually, there are already several drawings of Chrome-tan on nijiura.com, and the first ones were made the day on or after Chrome's release!
Oooh! Those I gotta see. ^___^
Added after 43 seconds: Okay, cap reached. Will continue tomorrow. ^___^
It does seem as if there is a heightened influx of IE-tan imagery as well. Interesting...
What? No theories for over one month? The resident theorist/OS-tan cultural anthropologist greatly disapproves T__T
Oh well, I'm here to fix this.
--Berkeley Timesharing System (will be called "BTSS" to cut down on typing)-tan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Timesharing_System
What we know about the OS: BTSS was used from 1964-67; it was the product of UC Berkeley's Project Genie, an ARPA-funded computer research initiative similar to MIT's (Multics-producing) Project MAC. It was a part of the new wave of academic timesharing OSes, and was written on a SDS minicomputer, making it one of the first successful timesharing systems built for a minicomputer. Unix co-creator Ken Thompson worked on the Berkeley Timesharing System, and I've read Unix borrowed a few process control features from this OS. One flaw, however, was that while typing a command, BTSS would automatically fill in the rest of the command after a few characters were typed. This seemingly time-saving feature ended up being a pain for most, and is said to have been a cause of its downfall.
The character: Due to the Genie reference, I see BTSS-tan as being vaguely Middle-Eastern themed. I see her as having very powerful psychic (specializing in telepathy) powers, being able to see what those around her will say while they're still thinking it. I don't know if she would have an ability to see the future; but it would be interesting to conjecture that she saw a lot of major events that would occur in her time, and that this knowledge drove her to an early death. Somehow I think BTSS-tan should share a few physical similarities with Unix-sama; perhaps she should join the ubiquitous "scary eyed OS-tan" club?
--Tenex (aka TOPS 20)-tan
What we know about the OS: Tenex was an OS created in 1969 by a Boston company, BBN. In 1973 DEC bought Tenex and renamed in TOPS-20. It was sold by DEC until the 1980s, when they phased it out; but it still continues to have a cult hobbyist following. Tenex's main influences include Berkeley Timesharing System and Multics (in fact, Multics programmers helped advise in the construction of Tenex-- and suggested the developers make it less complex!). After it was bought by DEC, TOPS-10 contributed to its design. Tenex was considered to be very user friendly and to have an intuitive CLI; users need only type a portion of their command, hit the esc key, and have either the command executed or a list of possible choices presented.
What I think about the character: I see a good inspiration character for Tenex-tan as Euphemia from Code Geass. Sweet, kindly, but perhaps a bit naive and notably out-of-place in a military setting. A natural people-person, she would have a slight clairvoyance inherited from BTSS-tan; only she has the control over her powers BTSS-tan lacked. She would have loved Multics-sama and would have been trained by her in matters of manners and etiquette. After being "recruited" into the DEC military, Tenex-tan would have drifted toward TOPS 10-sama and come to look at her like a mother or sister figure. While quite successful, she never would have been the greatest fighter (choosing to avoid conflicts when possible). She would have been discharged from the military, after numerous political and social conflicts with VMS-sama and her followers.
In "let's dredge up the past" news, I'm thinking of making -tans for two certified CIOST members and barely-beta OS-tans, Argante and Unununium-tan. Just a passing thought, though.
BTSS-san + Tenex-san: I agree with your proposed backstories and personalities for both! I think they are spot-on! ;010 Sadly, I don't have anything to contribute :(
Argante-tan: I did want to draw her but I did propose some ideas for her personality and appearance.
Argante is a virtual open source OS and a fully virtual environment so Argante-tan would be friendly and diplomatic with others. Being focused on security, stability and efficiency as top priorities, she is very pragmatic and mainly fights only for defensive purposes. And is a system with no compromises, she is very stubborn! She would be the CIOST's main diplomat, however a lot of diplomatic meetings don't go well when she is in charge because is so stubborn and does not believe in compromises at all! XD
She is either a sorceress or cyberspace traveller, carries a staff, has wavy hair (elements from the Argante logo) and she wears traditional Polish attire in blue and white (Argante's main developer, MichaÅ, Zalewski is from Poland) and also wears a white hat (because MichaÅ, is a "white hat" hacker- a nonmalicious hacker for security purposes)
Unununium-tan: I know that she was mentioned before in this thread. I could try and dig that post up for you if you want.
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I have an idea for a new character: EnGarde Secure Linux-tan
EnGarde Secure Linux is a server-only distribution focused entirely on security and oddly enough does not include the X Window system, does not include many desktop functions, and requires a second computer to configure it. Backlash ensued when developers charged a $60 fee for users to continue using EnGarde Secure Linux.
She is a bodyguard and soldier that is tough, stoic and loyal yet disagreeable and difficult at times. While she offers her services to any server or high-end OSes, she is affiliated with the Linux/Unix Consortium and was hired by Linux-sama and Unix-sama to break up any fights that ensue. She carries an assortment of weapons but primarily uses a stun-gun, has wavy white hair, purple eyes and wears an old-fashioned French military uniform (circa 18th century). Oh, and "EN GARDE!" is her catchphrase!
QuoteWhat? No theories for over one month? The resident theorist/OS-tan cultural anthropologist greatly disapproves T__T
The resident theorist and OStan cultural anthropologist also incorrectly assumed that everyone was also OODLES more productive without her. Mayhap this is reality coming back to bite ya. ^__~
QuoteThe character: Due to the Genie reference, I see BTSS-tan as being vaguely Middle-Eastern themed. I see her as having very powerful psychic (specializing in telepathy) powers, being able to see what those around her will say while they're still thinking it. I don't know if she would have an ability to see the future; but it would be interesting to conjecture that she saw a lot of major events that would occur in her time, and that this knowledge drove her to an early death. Somehow I think BTSS-tan should share a few physical similarities with Unix-sama; perhaps she should join the ubiquitous "scary eyed OS-tan" club?
Ahha... early psionics, I like that. ^^
Given how much obscene media attention the predictions of Nostradamus gets, I wouldn't be surprised if BTSS-sama left her own musings recorded somewhere - in a format few can read anymore, of course - and that has been used by certainly more than a handful of cultistically-inclined OS-tans to retroactively predict disasters that BTSS-sama cryptically foresaw. That would at least offer an opportunity for the name to appear more often than not. ^^
As for the eyes, why not? If you think about it, scary-eyed OS-tans are still in the minority. ^^'
QuoteWhat I think about the character: I see a good inspiration character for Tenex-tan as Euphemia from Code Geass. Sweet, kindly, but perhaps a bit naive and notably out-of-place in a military setting. A natural people-person, she would have a slight clairvoyance inherited from BTSS-tan; only she has the control over her powers BTSS-tan lacked. She would have loved Multics-sama and would have been trained by her in matters of manners and etiquette. After being "recruited" into the DEC military, Tenex-tan would have drifted toward TOPS 10-sama and come to look at her like a mother or sister figure. While quite successful, she never would have been the greatest fighter (choosing to avoid conflicts when possible). She would have been discharged from the military, after numerous political and social conflicts with VMS-sama and her followers.
Fufufu... I remember you mentioned her a while ago. ^^
Not much to say here -- I think the Euphemia figure fits her perfectly.
Interesting how her involvement in DEC parallels that of Amiga-san in Commodore -- woefully unsuited for military life, she lacked the ability to carry on their time-honored traditions and created some friction between her and a good number of her family members.
QuoteArgante is a virtual open source OS and a fully virtual environment so Argante-tan would be friendly and diplomatic with others. Being focused on security, stability and efficiency as top priorities, she is very pragmatic and mainly fights only for defensive purposes. And is a system with no compromises, she is very stubborn! She would be the CIOST's main diplomat, however a lot of diplomatic meetings don't go well when she is in charge because is so stubborn and does not believe in compromises at all! XD
She is either a sorceress or cyberspace traveller, carries a staff, has wavy hair (elements from the Argante logo) and she wears traditional Polish attire in blue and white (Argante's main developer, MichaÅ, Zalewski is from Poland) and also wears a white hat (because MichaÅ, is a "white hat" hacker- a nonmalicious hacker for security purposes)
Hint: if it's virtual, always choose the less substantial power. The ability to manipulate telecommunications grids a la Ghost in the Shell - or even Macross Frontier - is probably more appropriate for her, and in this day and age could actually gain her more benefits than traditional eye-of-newt sorcery.
The fact that she's a hacker only cements that further -- the ability to incapacitate her enemies (either by herself or a more trained CIOST member) and then "hack" their minds to extract their memories would be an invaluable skill.
Even better, she wouldn't have to do it to the actual OS-tan -- a virus-tan who recently infiltrated an OS-tan would make for an easier and traceless target.
QuoteUnununium-tan: I know that she was mentioned before in this thread. I could try and dig that post up for you if you want.
The actual Ununuium project is dead, so if the OS-tan will continue to exist she'll be little more than an uber prototype not unlike Windows Neptune.
I had in mind that she doesn't speak or interact very much -- her sole contribution to the CIOST is an amazingly powerful ultrasonic or antimatter attack that's capable of vanquishing even a well-entrenched Solaris-sama. The drawback, however, is that it requires more power than her prototype body can withstand, so it can only be used once -- hence, she's more a living weapon of last resort or tide turner.
Appearance-wise, she's probably albino but still rather elegant and graceful looking -- yet her true physical appearance is rarely seen as she is almost always wearing a large and elaborate armor that makes her look thrice as large. That's why I likened her more to a Dolem from RahXephon in previous preconcepts. -.-
QuoteShe is a bodyguard and soldier that is tough, stoic and loyal yet disagreeable and difficult at times. While she offers her services to any server or high-end OSes, she is affiliated with the Linux/Unix Consortium and was hired by Linux-sama and Unix-sama to break up any fights that ensue. She carries an assortment of weapons but primarily uses a stun-gun, has wavy white hair, purple eyes and wears an old-fashioned French military uniform (circa 18th century). Oh, and "EN GARDE!" is her catchphrase!
That sounds about spot on, so not much to say here. ^.^
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Still got a few rounds to take care of elsewhere, so I'm disappearing for a while. But I'll be back. ^^
QuoteArgante is a virtual open source OS and a fully virtual environment so Argante-tan would be friendly and diplomatic with others. Being focused on security, stability and efficiency as top priorities, she is very pragmatic and mainly fights only for defensive purposes. And is a system with no compromises, she is very stubborn! She would be the CIOST's main diplomat, however a lot of diplomatic meetings don't go well when she is in charge because is so stubborn and does not believe in compromises at all! XD
She is either a sorceress or cyberspace traveller, carries a staff, has wavy hair (elements from the Argante logo) and she wears traditional Polish attire in blue and white (Argante's main developer, MichaÅ, Zalewski is from Poland) and also wears a white hat (because MichaÅ, is a "white hat" hacker- a nonmalicious hacker for security purposes)
I was thinking if I make an Argante-tan, much of her look would be taken from the actual logo. But I do approve of the color scheme and white hat.
QuoteI have an idea for a new character: EnGarde Secure Linux-tan
EnGarde Secure Linux is a server-only distribution focused entirely on security and oddly enough does not include the X Window system, does not include many desktop functions, and requires a second computer to configure it. Backlash ensued when developers charged a $60 fee for users to continue using EnGarde Secure Linux.
She is a bodyguard and soldier that is tough, stoic and loyal yet disagreeable and difficult at times. While she offers her services to any server or high-end OSes, she is affiliated with the Linux/Unix Consortium and was hired by Linux-sama and Unix-sama to break up any fights that ensue. She carries an assortment of weapons but primarily uses a stun-gun, has wavy white hair, purple eyes and wears an old-fashioned French military uniform (circa 18th century). Oh, and "EN GARDE!" is her catchphrase!
I can believe it doesn't include X Windows, actually... :P
Anyhow, I like the proposed ideas-- giving her an old French military look will certainly give her some distiction. And considering the rows that go down among the Unixen and Linuxes, I'd think they'd need a whole team of bodyguards...^^
Hmmm...I remember once making, or at least proposing...some concepts for some sort of Linux-tan security guard. I don't think it was EnGarde, though... I think it was some router distro.
QuoteAhha... early psionics, I like that. ^^
Given how much obscene media attention the predictions of Nostradamus gets, I wouldn't be surprised if BTSS-sama left her own musings recorded somewhere - in a format few can read anymore, of course - and that has been used by certainly more than a handful of cultistically-inclined OS-tans to retroactively predict disasters that BTSS-sama cryptically foresaw. That would at least offer an opportunity for the name to appear more often than not. ^^
As for the eyes, why not? If you think about it, scary-eyed OS-tans are still in the minority. ^^'
Well, I don't know if she'd be scary-eyed in an intimidating sense...but I am sure she would look as if she was staring right into somebody's soul and reading their mind...cause in a way she would be.
QuoteHint: if it's virtual, always choose the less substantial power. The ability to manipulate telecommunications grids a la Ghost in the Shell - or even Macross Frontier - is probably more appropriate for her, and in this day and age could actually gain her more benefits than traditional eye-of-newt sorcery.
The fact that she's a hacker only cements that further -- the ability to incapacitate her enemies (either by herself or a more trained CIOST member) and then "hack" their minds to extract their memories would be an invaluable skill.
Even better, she wouldn't have to do it to the actual OS-tan -- a virus-tan who recently infiltrated an OS-tan would make for an easier and traceless target.
This sounds about right! Dually noted if I decide to make an Argante-tan.
Though really, I'm in more of a conceptual mood than an artsy mood right now. I can't even imagine working with Inkscape at the moment : \
QuoteThe actual Ununuium project is dead, so if the OS-tan will continue to exist she'll be little more than an uber prototype not unlike Windows Neptune.
I had in mind that she doesn't speak or interact very much -- her sole contribution to the CIOST is an amazingly powerful ultrasonic or antimatter attack that's capable of vanquishing even a well-entrenched Solaris-sama. The drawback, however, is that it requires more power than her prototype body can withstand, so it can only be used once -- hence, she's more a living weapon of last resort or tide turner.
Appearance-wise, she's probably albino but still rather elegant and graceful looking -- yet her true physical appearance is rarely seen as she is almost always wearing a large and elaborate armor that makes her look thrice as large. That's why I likened her more to a Dolem from RahXephon in previous preconcepts. -.-
Perhaps she is dead by now, but that doesn't mean I couldn't still draw a -tan for her (come to think of it, most of my favorite OS-tans...and OSes...are dead). I remembered reading she'd be in something of a vegetative state 90% of the time...'course, if I drew her, it'd be in a rare moment of lucidity O__o
When I envisioned her, I thought she would have long, wavy white hair and silver eyes. And be very pale. I don't remember a color scheme being proposed, so maybe I have some psionic skills of my own, eh? Nah, must have been the Ununuium site that gave me the idea. :P
As for you likening her to the Dolems...I haven't watched RahXephon, but knew they were some sort of mecha-like creature. If I do draw her, it'll likely be in her inner-suit or whatever.
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This sounds about right! Dually noted if I decide to make an Argante-tan.
Though really, I'm in more of a conceptual mood than an artsy mood right now. I can't even imagine working with Inkscape at the moment : \
Le sigh... Have to say I've been the same way myself. -.-'
Not for lack of trying, though -- when I do get inspiration, it's usually at my most busiest times.
Plus my programming ideas keep fluctuating back and forth like a yoyo... lately, I've rekindled my interest in a small Japanese language learning game. Not as complicated as my earlier idea -- but still heavily Anime-inspired.
I suck, I know. -___________-'
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When I envisioned her, I thought she would have long, wavy white hair and silver eyes. And be very pale.
AKA, albino. ^.^
QuoteI don't remember a color scheme being proposed, so maybe I have some psionic skills of my own, eh? Nah, must have been the Ununuium site that gave me the idea. :P
True that. Got it from the same place myself. -v-
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As for you likening her to the Dolems...I haven't watched RahXephon, but knew they were some sort of mecha-like creature. If I do draw her, it'll likely be in her inner-suit or whatever.
FYI, there's no shortage of the more kind-hearted CIOST-tans who would try to get her out and about every once in a while without her outer-suit (MenuetOS-tan comes to mind).
However, I'm not sure if it's necessary to have her be depicted as dead, since she was barely even alive to begin with. With incomplete emotions and no way to conceptualize the notion of "socializing", she behaves perhaps more android than humanoid. Not to say she couldn't have a moment of lucidity,... but it would likely be from the most unexpected thing.
Oh, hai, it's BTSS and Unun...Ununuium-tan.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/img003.jpg)
BTSS-tan I wanted a bit mysterious and exotic, so I based her outfit loosely on tribal belly dance costumes. She has wavy/curly hair, cause, well, you don't see a lot of curly haired people in anime (I'm sure this in part comes from the fact that straight hair is easier to draw). As a part-Mediterranean with crazy curly hair, I feel my people need more exposure. lawl.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/BellasOS-tans/img004.jpg)
Now for Unun...Ununun...Ununuium-tan. What can I say, I'm on a futuristic suit kick (must be watching too many Mecha series). Somehow I also envisioned Ununuium-tan as being on the youngish side...
Oh, and look at what interesting tidbit I found...
http://multicians.org/mepap.html
Milord! Multics Emacs?! Whoa, we knew Emacs-kun was one swingin' cat, but who'd of thought he'd have worked for...the Queen Mother (is that her pet name? I forget). Actually, I've found there's a whole range of Emacsen, even a version for VMS and Windows. We could probably get away with more than one character, but I've always thought less was more when it came to our OS-tans or App-kuns.
Actually, visiting the Multicians site reminded me that it was about a year ago that I started to research Multics, after some offhand comment C-Chan made about the system. I consider this discovery the turning point in my research of OSes, as well as my "career" as an OS-tan artist. Up until then I had intentionally blinded myself to anything older than Unix, deeming any older systems too uninteresting to research, much less make OS-tan personifications of. (This was really just history repeating itself, as I, for a long time, didn't want to research anything older than Windows and Mac). I remember looking through the Multicians site...at first I felt mild bemusement at the gaul of these people, for propping up the legacy of such a long-dead system; then a bit of resentment for their apparent disdain for opposing systems and (what I thought to be) their general attitude of arrogance. But the more I read, the more I started to sympathize with their plight (that sappy story of C-Chan's involving Multics and Unix-sama probably helped, too :P).
That said, it wasn't for some time and quite a bit of reading later that I realized the real tragedy was, for all their time and effort, the fact that Multics never could have made it off the ground; at least as a commercial success.
And in my research of other systems, I have found most of them can claim some tie back to this OS. Multics may have nearly collapsed under the weight of its own complexity, but from that collapse a great many OSes sprang. It may not be the "mother of all systems", but it did, and does, stand as a source of ideas and inspiration for more OSes than I can list here.
Sorry, for the speech. I was feeling a bit sentimental there.
QuoteLe sigh... Have to say I've been the same way myself. -.-'
Not for lack of trying, though -- when I do get inspiration, it's usually at my most busiest times.
Plus my programming ideas keep fluctuating back and forth like a yoyo... lately, I've rekindled my interest in a small Japanese language learning game. Not as complicated as my earlier idea -- but still heavily Anime-inspired.
I suck, I know. -___________-'
You don't suck, you just have too many ideas (this can't be a bad thing, though).
I've always felt inspiration was something that couldn't be forced. I usually let it find me, and I try to harbor it until there's use for it. This must sound very silly, but that's just the way I've always thought of it.
As for your programming ideas, do as the ancient Unix Gurus say: Keep it simple. Less is more. Etc, etc. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
QuoteFYI, there's no shortage of the more kind-hearted CIOST-tans who would try to get her out and about every once in a while without her outer-suit (MenuetOS-tan comes to mind).
However, I'm not sure if it's necessary to have her be depicted as dead, since she was barely even alive to begin with. With incomplete emotions and no way to conceptualize the notion of "socializing", she behaves perhaps more android than humanoid. Not to say she couldn't have a moment of lucidity,... but it would likely be from the most unexpected thing
Oh lawd. Sucks to be her. @@;
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I can't see the pictures!!!! ^0^
What is it with Photobucket lately... or is it just this machine.... -.-
Okay, will have to wait until I get home to see the rest -- do have to take a small break anyway. -____-
Added after 21 minutes: QuoteMilord! Multics Emacs?! Whoa, we knew Emacs-kun was one swingin' cat, but who'd of thought he'd have worked for...the Queen Mother (is that her pet name? I forget). Actually, I've found there's a whole range of Emacsen, even a version for VMS and Windows. We could probably get away with more than one character, but I've always thought less was more when it came to our OS-tans or App-kuns.
And with your drawing slump (and well, mine too), yeah... better just give him more appointments than a home-call doctor. ^^;
QuoteActually, visiting the Multicians site reminded me that it was about a year ago that I started to research Multics, after some offhand comment C-Chan made about the system. I consider this discovery the turning point in my research of OSes, as well as my "career" as an OS-tan artist. Up until then I had intentionally blinded myself to anything older than Unix, deeming any older systems too uninteresting to research, much less make OS-tan personifications of. (This was really just history repeating itself, as I, for a long time, didn't want to research anything older than Windows and Mac). I remember looking through the Multicians site...at first I felt mild bemusement at the gaul of these people, for propping up the legacy of such a long-dead system; then a bit of resentment for their apparent disdain for opposing systems and (what I thought to be) their general attitude of arrogance. But the more I read, the more I started to sympathize with their plight (that sappy story of C-Chan's involving Multics and Unix-sama probably helped, too :P).
Fufufu... admittedly, while I never wanted NOT to research old systems, I was always afraid that I wouldn't be able to call Unix-sama the Queen Mother of all OSes for much longer. But thanks in huge part to your own interpretation of OS-tan Lore of Yore, UNIX-sama's place in the world is actually more interesting. If anything, it makes the evolution from "young pup" to "Queen Mother" more of a curse to her, an everlasting reminder that all good things do come to an end and that immortality is always accompanied by the ever-present threat of loneliness.
QuoteAnd in my research of other systems, I have found most of them can claim some tie back to this OS. Multics may have nearly collapsed under the weight of its own complexity, but from that collapse a great many OSes sprang. It may not be the "mother of all systems", but it did, and does, stand as a source of ideas and inspiration for more OSes than I can list here.
Sorry, for the speech. I was feeling a bit sentimental there.
Take solace in the thought that I eat sentimental orations for breakfast. But it was very beautifully put, btw. ^^
QuoteAs for your programming ideas, do as the ancient Unix Gurus say: Keep it simple. Less is more. Etc, etc. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
So back to the Concentration Game it is! ^___^
That's the only thing that looks even remotely possible given my current fledgling knowledge of PyQt4. ^.^
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I'll return more with good words regarding the drawings. -v-
BTSS-san is very beautiful and exotic-looking and still very fanciful like the other timesharing OSes of the era!
The futuristic style suit looks great on Unununium-san! The long bangs and the visor strongly remind me of Rider from "Fate/Stay Night", which adds on to Unununium-san's awesomeness! :D
When browsing through computer history articles, I found inspiration for a new conjecture to add to the list: BeOS-tan's personality, backstory and why she failed against the competition in the 90's
technical info from here: http://lowendmac.com/myturn/02/0403.html (and somewhat contrary to Low End Mac's name, the site specializes in Macs but there is a lot of interest in other OSes, particuarly BeOS!)
BeOS had superior abilities to the competition but was not properly marketed, attempted partnerships not founded until it was too late. Trying to be proprietary like the Mac (only runs on company-made hardware) failed because a market wasn't created for it. Be had poor planning and poor understanding of the market: Appealing only to hardcore geeks (hardly profitable because it is a small niche), not coming in the form of a server (was a personal computer operating system in a time where server OSes were on the rise), and nearly lacked internet connectivity. Apple at first tried to make Mac OSX based off of BeOS but was much too difficult.
The later Classic Mac-tans, Windows-tans and NeXTSTEP-tan are commonly blamed by others to be BeOS-tan's demise, however BeOS-tan actually brought her demise on herself. Her skills and efficiency are top-notch, she is a genius with excellent potential but failed because she did not show off her abilities to the general public.
So I think that BeOS-tan is very quiet, overly modest and seeks isolation from most others and because of her isolation, she was largely uninformed about the competition and underestimated it. She would not like working in groups and much prefers working with one person at a time and her favorite kind of people are the 'geeky' type. (I think she'd be friends with 4K-tan, BBSpot-tan, Slashdot-tan, QNX-tan and IMSAI 8080-tan. And maybe TRON-sama.)
It has also been speculated that she does not see her daughters [Haiku-tan and ZETA-tan] very much or at all.
YES!!! NOW I can finally see Bella-hime's creations in all their glory! ^.^
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BTSS-tan I wanted a bit mysterious and exotic, so I based her outfit loosely on tribal belly dance costumes. She has wavy/curly hair, cause, well, you don't see a lot of curly haired people in anime (I'm sure this in part comes from the fact that straight hair is easier to draw). As a part-Mediterranean with crazy curly hair, I feel my people need more exposure. lawl.
Fufufu. Being hungry, now you just inspired me to seek something preferrably-laden in olive oil and assorted cheeses. Mmmm... Mediterranean munchies... ^.^
Do I even need to go over the clothing? Has not Bella-hime proved time and time again that she's the Goddess of OS-tan Fashion around here? ^^
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Aw, screw it, I have no self-control. Let me just swoon, dammit! ^___________^
*SWOONS*
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*revives* Like it, love it, worship it,.... reminds me of Sakura's dress from
Tsubasa Chronicles, only on steroids and trust me that's a good thing. ^.^
I see it as a merge of CTSS-sama's pre-Victorian sensitivies and Multics-sama's love of accessories and decorations, and yes with a gorgeous splash of the exotic.
Never really thought of belly dancing being my thing, but she might change my mind. ^.^
(or might've,... I forget, is BTSS-sama around?)
Curly hair will be a challenge, though, but so was Multics-sama's IMPOSSIBLY-intricate dress, and yet you pulled it off. ^^
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Now for Unun...Ununun...Ununuium-tan. What can I say, I'm on a futuristic suit kick (must be watching too many Mecha series). Somehow I also envisioned Ununuium-tan as being on the youngish side...
Considering I actually draw child-type characters regularly (enough to turn the Binteji Renmei into a borderline preschool), it surprises me that I never considered UUU-chan to be one. It actually makes sense given the young, prototypical nature of the system -- plus the fact that children, especially in Anime/Japanese movies, are often depicted as being particularly attuned to ESP and special powers. ^^
It even makes her role more interesting -- on the field everyone assumes she's an adult due to her large scary-looking outer armor, the awesome power of her attacks, and the eternally emotionless and speechless face, which victims just assume is some form of lone-wolf arrogance.
Those closest to her, however, get the privilege of seeing what's behind the armor: a young, vulnerable, emotionally-handicapped girl who nevertheless exhibits great curiosity and a reverence for all things that people take for granted. She would bend down and gape in interest at the sight of an aphid sucking dew off a leaf, or of concrete turning from a slushy substance into something as hard as stone.
If you really want to get sappy (or soapy?), she might actually be able to compile memories and emotions through this and over time grow more and more to be like a regular girl. But due to her incompleteness, all those memories and emotions are wiped out every time she uses her power, and thus she'd have to start from scratch completely unaware of her previous "lucidity".
Though this was an acceptable sacrifice in the early days, it wouldn't be long before friction would exist between members who have grown fond enough of UUU-chan to protect her from being used in this manner.....
...and those, like GECOS-sama, who can't really consider harm done to this "barely-sentient being" as a "sacrifice". I doubt the list of such members would be very long, but it might include a few unexpected surprises. @__@
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The futuristic style suit looks great on Unununium-san! The long bangs and the visor strongly remind me of Rider from "Fate/Stay Night", which adds on to Unununium-san's awesomeness!
What a Coin-ci-dence.... ^.^
Fate/Stay Night is actually on my upcoming Anime Queue.
Work, my beloved EeePC! Work hard so I can finally watch that series! ^^
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So I think that BeOS-tan is very quiet, overly modest and seeks isolation from most others and because of her isolation, she was largely uninformed about the competition and underestimated it. She would not like working in groups and much prefers working with one person at a time and her favorite kind of people are the 'geeky' type. (I think she'd be friends with 4K-tan, BBSpot-tan, Slashdot-tan, QNX-tan and IMSAI 8080-tan. And maybe TRON-sama.)
It has also been speculated that she does not see her daughters [Haiku-tan and ZETA-tan] very much or at all.
I don't recall at the moment if I suggested ZETA-tan be a CIOST member or not, but even if she were it would still make sense that her mother rarely ever sees her. Especially if BeOS-chan is overly modest, it would not be unlike her to wallow in shame, to afraid/ashamed to face her daughters, and preferring to hide in the comforting presence of fellow geeks.
Funny how the demise mirrors Commodore's failure to properly market Amiga-san. ^^
However, having recently been given the opportunity to witness how horribly neglected the latest AsusOS is and how botched Dell's deployment of Ubuntu in the Inspiron Mini 9 was, I can say that poor marketing and planning is still quite pandemic.
Or rather, I think it's intentional -- although perhaps they may not realize it. In an attempt to lock-in a system that's inherently open, they just end up botching the whole thing -- but that's better for them profit-wise. Because by offering an inferior product like this, especially netbooks which threaten their margins, they either chide people into getting the XP models, or they make them eager to purchase the newer [hopefully better, in the consumer's mind] models.
It's very rare these days for a company to create a true exceptional and flawless product -- that's because it may very well be more profitable to create something inherently flawed.
I was browsing the net and I found out about Calmira (http://www.calmira.de/), which is an open-source 16 bit shell that brings 3.1's interface up to date with that of the 'modern' windows. I think it's pretty neat. Ok, maybe a bit useless, but still neat. It'd be interesting to see the implications of such a project in the OS-tan universe. :P
Making a Calmira-tan may be hard (I have no ideas!) but a reference to Calmira could be made by drawing a picture of 3.1-tan cosplaying as 95-tan (or one of the 95 OSR 2.x sisters!) :D
3.1-sama cosplaying as Windows 95 OSR 2.5-sama could turn me into a convert. ^___^
[whispering] (Lying... of course I would never betray the Goddess OSR 2.5-sama. ^.^)
Since "Open Source" is something of a dirty word in Micro$oft (nowadays they like to throw around "Mixed Source" a lot), it's likely not looked at too kindly by Management. But 3.1-sama likely wouldn't mind, as Open Source clothing is the only thing left for her that she can get in stores or markets. -v-
All the fancy shops and boutiques that once treated her as a Queen now open the doors solely to her MUCH younger sisters. -.-'
I originally intended to draw 3.1-tan cosplaying as just one of the Windows 95 sisters, but I drew this zerOSanity page so she could cosplay as all three of them!
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/CaptainMiko/OS-tans/zs_3-1cosplay.jpg)
QuoteAnd with your drawing slump (and well, mine too), yeah... better just give him more appointments than a home-call doctor. ^^;
Plus it would make the character a lot more interesting and lend him a much more....ancient and learned air...
QuoteFufufu... admittedly, while I never wanted NOT to research old systems, I was always afraid that I wouldn't be able to call Unix-sama the Queen Mother of all OSes for much longer. But thanks in huge part to your own interpretation of OS-tan Lore of Yore, UNIX-sama's place in the world is actually more interesting. If anything, it makes the evolution from "young pup" to "Queen Mother" more of a curse to her, an everlasting reminder that all good things do come to an end and that immortality is always accompanied by the ever-present threat of loneliness.
As for that Queen Mother title, it really could go either way depending on your outlook. Multics-sama may have (unintentionally) created all the conditions needed to bring about a new age of OS-tans, but it was Unix-sama who took advantage of this. Unix-sama may be the "Mother of all OSes", but that never would have been possible-- nor would she have even been born-- without Multics-sama being there first.
I could go on, but it makes my head hurt thinking of the inextricable mess that is the history of Unix/Multics ;026
QuoteTake solace in the thought that I eat sentimental orations for breakfast. But it was very beautifully put, btw. ^^
Oh, I love Sentimental Orations. They're especially good with extra Sap on top!
QuoteWhen browsing through computer history articles, I found inspiration for a new conjecture to add to the list: BeOS-tan's personality, backstory and why she failed against the competition in the 90's
technical info from here: http://lowendmac.com/myturn/02/0403.html (and somewhat contrary to Low End Mac's name, the site specializes in Macs but there is a lot of interest in other OSes, particuarly BeOS!)
BeOS had superior abilities to the competition but was not properly marketed, attempted partnerships not founded until it was too late. Trying to be proprietary like the Mac (only runs on company-made hardware) failed because a market wasn't created for it. Be had poor planning and poor understanding of the market: Appealing only to hardcore geeks (hardly profitable because it is a small niche), not coming in the form of a server (was a personal computer operating system in a time where server OSes were on the rise), and nearly lacked internet connectivity. Apple at first tried to make Mac OSX based off of BeOS but was much too difficult.
The later Classic Mac-tans, Windows-tans and NeXTSTEP-tan are commonly blamed by others to be BeOS-tan's demise, however BeOS-tan actually brought her demise on herself. Her skills and efficiency are top-notch, she is a genius with excellent potential but failed because she did not show off her abilities to the general public.
So I think that BeOS-tan is very quiet, overly modest and seeks isolation from most others and because of her isolation, she was largely uninformed about the competition and underestimated it. She would not like working in groups and much prefers working with one person at a time and her favorite kind of people are the 'geeky' type. (I think she'd be friends with 4K-tan, BBSpot-tan, Slashdot-tan, QNX-tan and IMSAI 8080-tan. And maybe TRON-sama.)
It has also been speculated that she does not see her daughters [Haiku-tan and ZETA-tan] very much or at all.
Hmmm, I remember once reading OS X was supposed to be based off of BeOS, and conjecturing BeOS and NeXTSTEP-tan would have been mortal enemies at one point, but I never got around to thinking up a backstory about these facts. This all sounds about right to me!
QuoteFufufu. Being hungry, now you just inspired me to seek something preferrably-laden in olive oil and assorted cheeses. Mmmm... Mediterranean munchies... ^.^
How ironic! Just yesterday I went to a delightful little Greek cafe. ^^
QuoteDo I even need to go over the clothing? Has not Bella-hime proved time and time again that she's the Goddess of OS-tan Fashion around here? ^^
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Aw, screw it, I have no self-control. Let me just swoon, dammit! ^___________^
*SWOONS*
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*revives* Like it, love it, worship it,.... reminds me of Sakura's dress from Tsubasa Chronicles, only on steroids and trust me that's a good thing. ^.^
I see it as a merge of CTSS-sama's pre-Victorian sensitivies and Multics-sama's love of accessories and decorations, and yes with a gorgeous splash of the exotic.
Never really thought of belly dancing being my thing, but she might change my mind. ^.^
(or might've,... I forget, is BTSS-sama around?)
Curly hair will be a challenge, though, but so was Multics-sama's IMPOSSIBLY-intricate dress, and yet you pulled it off. ^
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Actually, curly hair isn't that tough. Ya gotta think the freehand tool. As for BTSS-sama's status, sadly, I think she had a fairly short lifespan. I know they only used it at Berkeley from 1964 to 67, I don't know about other installations. -___-
QuoteConsidering I actually draw child-type characters regularly (enough to turn the Binteji Renmei into a borderline preschool), it surprises me that I never considered UUU-chan to be one. It actually makes sense given the young, prototypical nature of the system -- plus the fact that children, especially in Anime/Japanese movies, are often depicted as being particularly attuned to ESP and special powers. ^^
It even makes her role more interesting -- on the field everyone assumes she's an adult due to her large scary-looking outer armor, the awesome power of her attacks, and the eternally emotionless and speechless face, which victims just assume is some form of lone-wolf arrogance.
Those closest to her, however, get the privilege of seeing what's behind the armor: a young, vulnerable, emotionally-handicapped girl who nevertheless exhibits great curiosity and a reverence for all things that people take for granted. She would bend down and gape in interest at the sight of an aphid sucking dew off a leaf, or of concrete turning from a slushy substance into something as hard as stone.
If you really want to get sappy (or soapy?), she might actually be able to compile memories and emotions through this and over time grow more and more to be like a regular girl. But due to her incompleteness, all those memories and emotions are wiped out every time she uses her power, and thus she'd have to start from scratch completely unaware of her previous "lucidity".
Though this was an acceptable sacrifice in the early days, it wouldn't be long before friction would exist between members who have grown fond
enough of UUU-chan to protect her from being used in this manner.....
The thought that everything she learns would be lost every time she uses her power is especially sad, but I think this would perfectly fit Unun...Unun...UUU-chan. :..(
Quote...and those, like GECOS-sama, who can't really consider harm done to this "barely-sentient being" as a "sacrifice". I doubt the list of such members would be very long, but it might include a few unexpected surprises. @__@
Hmmm, it's time to play...
CIOST Members Who Think UUU-chan is the Ultimate Living Weapon!-GECOS-san...check!
-FreeVMS and Ozone-chan...no way, they would sympathize with her...
-eCOS-tan...she could go either way...
-VxWorks-tan...I don't think she hangs around enough to get involved in this kind of stuff...
-VMS-sama...no, she couldn't...no...yeah...maybe she would...probably... O__O;
QuoteI don't recall at the moment if I suggested ZETA-tan be a CIOST member or not, but even if she were it would still make sense that her mother rarely ever sees her. Especially if BeOS-chan is overly modest, it would not be unlike her to wallow in shame, to afraid/ashamed to face her daughters, and preferring to hide in the comforting presence of fellow geeks.
Funny how the demise mirrors Commodore's failure to properly market Amiga-san. ^^
However, having recently been given the opportunity to witness how horribly neglected the latest AsusOS is and how botched Dell's deployment of Ubuntu in the Inspiron Mini 9 was, I can say that poor marketing and planning is still quite pandemic.
Or rather, I think it's intentional -- although perhaps they may not realize it. In an attempt to lock-in a system that's inherently open, they just end up botching the whole thing -- but that's better for them profit-wise. Because by offering an inferior product like this, especially netbooks which threaten their margins, they either chide people into getting the XP models, or they make them eager to purchase the newer [hopefully better, in the consumer's mind] models.
It's very rare these days for a company to create a true exceptional and flawless product -- that's because it may very well be more profitable to create something inherently flawed.
True that-- this is why I don't trust anything sold by a big corporation anymore. T___T
QuoteI was browsing the net and I found out about Calmira, which is an open-source 16 bit shell that brings 3.1's interface up to date with that of the 'modern' windows. I think it's pretty neat. Ok, maybe a bit useless, but still neat. It'd be interesting to see the implications of such a project in the OS-tan universe. :P
Hmmm, interesting find, Nuker!
QuoteI originally intended to draw 3.1-tan cosplaying as just one of the Windows 95 sisters, but I drew this zerOSanity page so she could cosplay as all three of them
Haha! 3.1-tan cosplaying her sisters' is golden! And I've always thought NT-sama would enjoy cosplaying 3.1-tan ^^
QuoteFufufu... admittedly, while I never wanted NOT to research old systems, I was always afraid that I wouldn't be able to call Unix-sama the Queen Mother of all OSes for much longer. But thanks in huge part to your own interpretation of OS-tan Lore of Yore, UNIX-sama's place in the world is actually more interesting. If anything, it makes the evolution from "young pup" to "Queen Mother" more of a curse to her, an everlasting reminder that all good things do come to an end and that immortality is always accompanied by the ever-present threat of loneliness.
Until I first read about Multics, I didn't think there was any OS older than Unix!
Now I know that the oldest (known) OS dates back to 1955!
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As for that Queen Mother title, it really could go either way depending on your outlook. Multics-sama may have (unintentionally) created all the conditions needed to bring about a new age of OS-tans, but it was Unix-sama who took advantage of this. Unix-sama may be the "Mother of all OSes", but that never would have been possible-- nor would she have even been born-- without Multics-sama being there first.
I could go on, but it makes my head hurt thinking of the inextricable mess that is the history of Unix/Multics ;026
Interesting! I never looked it at like that! Yeah... Deciding whether Multics-sama or Unix-sama as "Queen Mother" is tricky!
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Hmmm, I remember once reading OS X was supposed to be based off of BeOS, and conjecturing BeOS and NeXTSTEP-tan would have been mortal enemies at one point, but I never got around to thinking up a backstory about these facts. This all sounds about right to me!
In the 90's, BeOS-tan and NeXTSTEP-tan were mortal enemies but over time and due to BeOS-tan's lack of self-confidence, she feels it is for the best that she ended up losing -_-
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Actually, curly hair isn't that tough. Ya gotta think the freehand tool. As for BTSS-sama's status, sadly, I think she had a fairly short lifespan. I know they only used it at Berkeley from 1964 to 67, I don't know about other installations. -___-
How sad! Of all the OS-tans, she had one of the shortest lifespans... Along with TSS/360-san, Apple I-sama and SpringOS-tan :(
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It even makes her role more interesting -- on the field everyone assumes she's an adult due to her large scary-looking outer armor, the awesome power of her attacks, and the eternally emotionless and speechless face, which victims just assume is some form of lone-wolf arrogance.
Those closest to her, however, get the privilege of seeing what's behind the armor: a young, vulnerable, emotionally-handicapped girl who nevertheless exhibits great curiosity and a reverence for all things that people take for granted. She would bend down and gape in interest at the sight of an aphid sucking dew off a leaf, or of concrete turning from a slushy substance into something as hard as stone.
Awwww! ^_^
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If you really want to get sappy (or soapy?), she might actually be able to compile memories and emotions through this and over time grow more and more to be like a regular girl. But due to her incompleteness, all those memories and emotions are wiped out every time she uses her power, and thus she'd have to start from scratch completely unaware of her previous "lucidity".
Awww.... :( That's awful that she has to re-learn everything and regain all the friendships and memories she lost each time she uses her powers. Of course, someone like GECOS-san could exploit that to turn UUU-chan into a killing machine.
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CIOST Members Who Think UUU-chan is the Ultimate Living Weapon!
-GECOS-san...check!
-FreeVMS and Ozone-chan...no way, they would sympathize with her...
-eCOS-tan...she could go either way...
-VxWorks-tan...I don't think she hangs around enough to get involved in this kind of stuff...
-VMS-sama...no, she couldn't...no...yeah...maybe she would...probably... O__O;
I'll add some:
-MenuetOS-san: No way! She helps out UUU-chan a lot, and gets especially devastated when UUU-chan loses all her memory!
-IMSAI 8080-tan: Probably not. Although she is somewhat of a megalomaniac and yearns for the old days when she was a military superpower, she is also unselfish.
-NeXTSTEP-san: No, but she certainly would have thought so given the mentality she had in the 90's before allying with the Mac-tans and having a change of heart. Besides, having suffered a lot herself, she would not want to see any of her comrades suffer too.
-SkyOS-tan: Yes
-OS-9-tan: Could go either way
-TinyOS-tan: Heck yeah!
-Argante-tan: Not sure
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Funny how the demise mirrors Commodore's failure to properly market Amiga-san. ^^
It doesn't seem to matter how good the quality of a product is, but rather the quality and quantity of its marketing!
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Haha! 3.1-tan cosplaying her sisters' is golden! And I've always thought NT-sama would enjoy cosplaying 3.1-tan ^^
That would be cute! I suddenly also wanted to draw a quick picture of 3.1-tan dressed as 95-tan and 3.2-tan dressed as OSR 2.5-tan! XD
QuoteI originally intended to draw 3.1-tan cosplaying as just one of the Windows 95 sisters, but I drew this zerOSanity page so she could cosplay as all three of them!
Aurora-hime is just too amazing sometimes! Where doth this girl get so much inspiration? I want me some of that. ^___^
Are you going to turn this into an actual ZS Comic Page? This just begs for a patented Aurora Light, Color and WIN treatment. ^__^
PANEL 1: Wasn't really sure what this part was about at first, but seeing as how it continues in the background of Panel 2, seems like it's just an opener meant to parallel 3.1-sama's predicament. Seems she's not the only old Windows-tan who wants to imitate the young'uns. ^.^
PANEL 2: Micro-chibis... and micro-chibis of OSR 2.1-sana and 2.5-sama to boot! To quote from the goddess....
WHEEEEEEE!!!!!! ^V^
PANEL 3: Ah, I'm starting to think that this particular comic is structured like a kind of commercial. ^___^
Also, it seems by now that we're pretty much in agreement that Calmira is definitely represented as clothing (or, well, you know, a kinda cosplaying mechanism). ^___^
PANEL 4: BOO!!! >.<
PANEL 5: YEAH!!!!!!!!! Now THAT'S more like it! I'll write letters to that anyday!!! >v<
PANEL 6: BOO-YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW we're cookin with FIYA!!!! ^V^
PANEL 7: .... O__O
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^V^
Hacchan picked a helluva time to reverse the tables finally. ^.^'
The final punchline is brilliant, superb, remarkable, astounding....
...and too FRAKKIN FUNNY!!!!!! ^V^
*head explodes*
Added after 30 minutes: *head regrows*
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The thought that everything she learns would be lost every time she uses her power is especially sad, but I think this would perfectly fit Unun...Unun...UUU-chan. :..(
Also thought it was a good compromise on our mutual interpretations of her personality. She could be emotionless or lucid and it would still make perfect sense. ^^
Admittedly, it didn't occur to me until much afterwards that this particular memory-gets-lost-after-xyz factor is suspiciously similar to Angelica's dilemma in Gunslinger Girl. Not that Angelica-chan has a super powerful psionic/ultrasonic/antimatter attack or wears a three meter tall armored suit, but just thought I'd give the heads up anyway. ^^'
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Hmmm, it's time to play...
CIOST Members Who Think UUU-chan is the Ultimate Living Weapon!
-GECOS-san...check!
-FreeVMS and Ozone-chan...no way, they would sympathize with her...
-eCOS-tan...she could go either way...
-VxWorks-tan...I don't think she hangs around enough to get involved in this kind of stuff...
-VMS-sama...no, she couldn't...no...yeah...maybe she would...probably... O__O;
Fufufu... you figured it out. ^^
VMS-sama may have grown colder over the years but she's no monster. Nevertheless, her primary responsibility is to protect everyone in the CIOST -- and certainly if a decisive moment came where their entire existence was in jeopardy, what else can she do but do everything in her available power to save the majority? After all, it's not just the OS-tans at risk, but also the towns and people under their direct protection.
Wouldn't mean she'd meet with the spent and catatonic UUU-chan in private afterwards, perhaps begging for forgiveness and shedding rare tears.
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Awww.... That's awful that she has to re-learn everything and regain all the friendships and memories she lost each time she uses her powers. Of course, someone like GECOS-san could exploit that to turn UUU-chan into a killing machine.
Not "could", but "does". Or at least tries to anyway.
If left by themselves, there's no doubt she would exploit UUU-chan to the fullest. After all UUU-chan would be just like the young UNIX-sama, with the exception that the perpetual loss of her identity would ensure she would never rebel against GECOS-sama.
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-MenuetOS-san: No way! She helps out UUU-chan a lot, and gets especially devastated when UUU-chan loses all her memory!
Exactly. ^___^
Quote-NeXTSTEP-san: No, but she certainly would have thought so given the mentality she had in the 90's before allying with the Mac-tans and having a change of heart. Besides, having suffered a lot herself, she would not want to see any of her comrades suffer too.
This is similar to VMS-sama's line of thought.
Quote-SkyOS-tan: Yes
-OS-9-tan: Could go either way
-TinyOS-tan: Heck yeah!
Definitely on the first one.
Probably yes on the second one (not that she really cares much for all that military stuff anyway).
As for the third,... we haven't really discussed TinyOS-tan much, but yes she's not exactly the most pleasant OS-tan of all. ^^'
Quote-Argante-tan: Not sure
Actually yes... HECK YES.
Something about UUU-chan prevents Argante-san from reading her mind, and that creeps her out. And whenever UUU-chan increases her sentience, that would freak out Argante-san even more since she's the only OS-tan in the group who would be completely unpredictable by her. Perhaps because of her stubborness, it never occurs to her that UUU-chan might not mean her any harm, and so is one of the few who breathe a sigh of relief whenever UUU-chan defaults back to her Zero state.
There's also BeOS-chan (now that we've been talking about her much lately), but I kinda think of her as an indecisive one. On the one hand, she is supposed to help with strategy. On the other hand, she may not feel worthy to deprive UUU-chan of a future, having been unable to secure one for herself.
And we're actually forgetting one very important person too:
UUU-chan herself.
When she's hardly sentient, she does as she's told.
But even when she's almost fully sentient, she's not above sacrificing her precious memories to save her friends. If anything, she might view it as a privilege -- a way to give back to the people who took a Living Weapon and turned her into a normal girl with feelings, dreams and fond memories.
@Aurora Borealis: Now that's just awesome. OK, so calmira is represented by cosplaying, as there isn't any real innovation aside from the interface.
QuoteAlso thought it was a good compromise on our mutual interpretations of her personality. She could be emotionless or lucid and it would still make perfect sense. ^^
Admittedly, it didn't occur to me until much afterwards that this particular memory-gets-lost-after-xyz factor is suspiciously similar to Angelica's dilemma in Gunslinger Girl. Not that Angelica-chan has a super powerful psionic/ultrasonic/antimatter attack or wears a three meter tall armored suit, but just thought I'd give the heads up anyway. ^^'
Yeah, after you mentioned it I thought of a parallel UUU-chan's situation and the effects of conditioning in Gunslinger Girl...
QuoteFufufu... you figured it out. ^^
VMS-sama may have grown colder over the years but she's no monster. Nevertheless, her primary responsibility is to protect everyone in the CIOST -- and certainly if a decisive moment came where their entire existence was in jeopardy, what else can she do but do everything in her available power to save the majority? After all, it's not just the OS-tans at risk, but also the towns and people under their direct protection.
Wouldn't mean she'd meet with the spent and catatonic UUU-chan in private afterwards, perhaps begging for forgiveness and shedding rare tears.
How sad...I wonder if UUU-chan would be able to read minds while catatonic? Or would she have no emotions and thus not be able to process anything she heard/sensed?
QuoteNot "could", but "does". Or at least tries to anyway.
If left by themselves, there's no doubt she would exploit UUU-chan to the fullest. After all UUU-chan would be just like the young UNIX-sama, with the exception that the perpetual loss of her identity would ensure she would never rebel against GECOS-sama.
Even sadder...somehow GECOS-san has become, like, the greatest anti-hero of all our OS-tans...
QuoteThis is similar to VMS-sama's line of thought.
I always thought NeXTSTEP-tan would be similar to VMS-sama, if only for their contributions to more popular OS-tans (in the former's case, OSX, in the latter, Windows NT. I don't know if NeXTSTEP-tan would be as powerful as VMS-sama, but then again, I've never really considered her powers/weapons (I've considered that she should be good with gun, to tie her in with the Doom references, but I'd like to hear something more solid proposed).
Speaking of which, what defensive powers might BeOS-tan have...?
QuoteActually yes... HECK YES.
Something about UUU-chan prevents Argante-san from reading her mind, and that creeps her out. And whenever UUU-chan increases her sentience, that would freak out Argante-san even more since she's the only OS-tan in the group who would be completely unpredictable by her. Perhaps because of her stubborness, it never occurs to her that UUU-chan might not mean her any harm, and so is one of the few who breathe a sigh of relief whenever UUU-chan defaults back to her Zero state.
You just piqued my curiosity in Argante-tan...
...must...draw...CIOST...group...pic...
QuoteThere's also BeOS-chan (now that we've been talking about her much lately), but I kinda think of her as an indecisive one. On the one hand, she is supposed to help with strategy. On the other hand, she may not feel worthy to deprive UUU-chan of a future, having been unable to secure one for herself.
That sounds right
QuoteAnd we're actually forgetting one very important person too:
Uhmmm...
Primos-tan? Yeah, I think she would spend time in the company of other Multics-likes (such as VOS-sama) and not get too wrapped up in CIOST politics...
QuoteUUU-chan herself.
When she's hardly sentient, she does as she's told.
But even when she's almost fully sentient, she's not above sacrificing her precious memories to save her friends. If anything, she might view it as a privilege -- a way to give back to the people who took a Living Weapon and turned her into a normal girl with feelings, dreams and fond memories.
Oh, okay, you mean UUU-chan. That's so brave of her...she knows what'll happen to her, yet she still faces her fate. If anything, she might look at each time she loses her memories like an fresh start, an opportunity to meet and come to love her friends all over again. :..(
QuoteUntil I first read about Multics, I didn't think there was any OS older than Unix!
Now I know that the oldest (known) OS dates back to 1955!
For awhile I thought Unix was one of the oldest OSes, but then I discovered there were much older ones. But I didn't think they'd be interesting enough to make -tans for, seeing as they lacked a lot of reference material...
...now I see that's no roadblock, 'cause if there's no reference material, you always have your imagination to help ;)
QuoteInteresting! I never looked it at like that! Yeah... Deciding whether Multics-sama or Unix-sama as "Queen Mother" is tricky!
I'd still refer Multics-sama is the Queen Mother, and Unix-sama is the Goddess...now tell me how THAT makes sense ^^'
QuoteIn the 90's, BeOS-tan and NeXTSTEP-tan were mortal enemies but over time and due to BeOS-tan's lack of self-confidence, she feels it is for the best that she ended up losing -_-
I wonder if-- as both are CIOST members-- they've made up? Or do you suppose there's still a lingering hostility between them...?
QuoteHow sad! Of all the OS-tans, she had one of the shortest lifespans... Along with TSS/360-san, Apple I-sama and SpringOS-tan
Speaking of that last one, I've been meaning to draw a SpringOS-tan...
That would be cute! I suddenly also wanted to draw a quick picture of 3.1-tan dressed as 95-tan and 3.2-tan dressed as OSR 2.5-tan! XD
Oooh, be careful with your cosplay. Let us not forget the infamous Unix/Slackware-tan cosplay incident, and corresponding Death Cult dedicated to keeping Unix-sama and Slack-chan in their outfits ...
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11522/normal_posterlarge.png)
I wonder whatever happened to the Death Cult for Cuties? (A reference for all those emo enough to get it...XD)
In Old As Dirt Character Ideas, I'm considering an idea for an ORVYL-tan and WYLBUR-tan/kun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYLBUR
ORVYL was an early timesharing system, and WYLBUR was its text editor. All I know about the potential characters is they they'd be practically inseparable, and obsessed with building a plane (a reference to their names).
In More Linux-tans Than You Can Shake a Stick At, recently C-Chan brought up ALT Linux. Considering this is a distro that is really taking off in Russian schools, I think we might need at ALT-tan. As was the old dilemma about Edubuntu-tan's profession...would ALT-tan be a student, or teacher?
In Conspiracy Theories News, what do you make of this chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-sharing_system_evolution
Read the legend, and scroll down to OS/2 and VMS. According to this chart, OS/2 is *gasp* strongly influenced by VMS!? And NT is *gasp* derived from OS/2! And VMS! And yeah, they show a lot of systems which we consider un-realated as being directly related, but this sorta brought back memories of my "NT-san is derived from a VMS-sama and OS/2-san DNA Soup" theory.
QuoteHow sad...I wonder if UUU-chan would be able to read minds while catatonic? Or would she have no emotions and thus not be able to process anything she heard/sensed?
I think the latter -- like a baby, she would receive a whole torrential flood of input, but she wouldn't know a thing as to what to do with it. It would certainly not be any less heart-wrenching to see her, at best, just picking up the tears from the metal floor trying to figure out what they are.
QuoteEven sadder...somehow GECOS-san has become, like, the greatest anti-hero of all our OS-tans...
Oh now, this is an Anime subculture after all. Anti-heros are surprisingly quite popular and loved. ^___^
Quote
I always thought NeXTSTEP-tan would be similar to VMS-sama, if only for their contributions to more popular OS-tans (in the former's case, OSX, in the latter, Windows NT. I don't know if NeXTSTEP-tan would be as powerful as VMS-sama, but then again, I've never really considered her powers/weapons (I've considered that she should be good with gun, to tie her in with the Doom references, but I'd like to hear something more solid proposed).
Uh,... ever heard of the BFG-4000? I'll give you 1,000,000,000,000 New C-chan Points if you can figure out the acronym. ^_______^
On the other hand, a Plasma Gun is probably a lot more practical -- it was my favorite weapon, once upon a time when I played Doom. -v-
I don't think she's anywhere near as powerful as VMS-sama since she might be more dependent on modern weapons for her power instead of sorcery (or even strategy), but she's certainly well above average compared to most modern OS-tans. ^___^
QuoteSpeaking of which, what defensive powers might BeOS-tan have...?
Don't laugh, but I was thinking of music,... LOUD, EAR-POPPING music!
Course, it's not all hokey -- the music probably contains an ultra-high frequency signal that causes a lot of extra pain and paralyzes any would-be antagonists. Thanks to her special headphones, though, she's not affected. ^^
Quote
You just piqued my curiosity in Argante-tan...
...must...draw...CIOST...group...pic...
The CIOST does have an unusual mix of ironic characters, don't it? ^___^
QuoteUhmmm...
Primos-tan? Yeah, I think she would spend time in the company of other Multics-likes (such as VOS-sama) and not get too wrapped up in CIOST politics...
Correct. ^^
In fact, I'm not sure if she would really care much if the CIOST did disintegrate.
Quote
Oh, okay, you mean UUU-chan. That's so brave of her...she knows what'll happen to her, yet she still faces her fate. If anything, she might look at each time she loses her memories like an fresh start, an opportunity to meet and come to love her friends all over again. :..(
That's right. *sniff* ^^
BTW, since they do undoubtedly tell her about her previous incarnations, I'm sure UUU-chan eventually makes it a habit to leave behind journals and time capsules for her to view in the future. That way, she'd be less afraid to give up her precious memories, since there's at least a small guarantee that she may love them all over again.
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I wonder if-- as both are CIOST members-- they've made up? Or do you suppose there's still a lingering hostility between them...?
*poins at GECOS-tan*
You don't have to make up with anyone to be a CIOST member. You just have to be useful, and be ready to solve your own problems whenever you're not. ^___________^'
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Oooh, be careful with your cosplay. Let us not forget the infamous Unix/Slackware-tan cosplay incident, and corresponding Death Cult dedicated to keeping Unix-sama and Slack-chan in their outfits ...
Doggarn, I LOVE that picture!!! >v<
Quote
In Old As Dirt Character Ideas, I'm considering an idea for an ORVYL-tan and WYLBUR-tan/kun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYLBUR
ORVYL was an early timesharing system, and WYLBUR was its text editor. All I know about the potential characters is they they'd be practically inseparable, and obsessed with building a plane (a reference to their names).
OMG... T__T
...
.....Well.... sounds like the right kind of characters to show up in Pilot-chan's stories.
Oh, didn't you know? Like ][-chan, she also does her fair share of tale-telling: real tales, tall tales, war tales, tail tales, the works. And she's reasonably versed in the history of old aviation, so no doubt she might take the story of ORVYL and WYLBURE and... embellish it somewhat. ^.^
Course, the stories are hardly PG-13 -- probably why she only gets a fraction of the attendance that ][-chan draws. ^.^
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In More Linux-tans Than You Can Shake a Stick At, recently C-Chan brought up ALT Linux. Considering this is a distro that is really taking off in Russian schools, I think we might need at ALT-tan. As was the old dilemma about Edubuntu-tan's profession...would ALT-tan be a student, or teacher?
That a trick question too? ^.^
Since it was a teacher that started the FOSS revolution in Russia, there's no doubt in my mind that ALT Linux-sama is also a teacher. She's kind of like the OLPC-tan of Russia, only older and more mature. ^__^
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In Conspiracy Theories News, what do you make of this chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-sharing_system_evolution
Read the legend, and scroll down to OS/2 and VMS. According to this chart, OS/2 is *gasp* strongly influenced by VMS!? And NT is *gasp* derived from OS/2! And VMS! And yeah, they show a lot of systems which we consider un-realated as being directly related, but this sorta brought back memories of my "NT-san is derived from a VMS-sama and OS/2-san DNA Soup" theory.
Well it was actually this very list that made me think that too. But since it proved just TOO disturbing, I just shelved the URL away and burned my eyeballs.
Great, now I have to do that all over again. Thank you so much, Bella-hime. >v<
*fetches the gasoline*
QuoteUh,... ever heard of the BFG-4000? I'll give you 1,000,000,000,000 New C-chan Points if you can figure out the acronym. ^_______^
Big Freakin' Gun (Or sometimes big friggin' gun), from DOOM, right? ^^
BTW, if you want I can link you a chart with the history of all the UNIX related systems. It's HUGE.
QuoteBig Freakin' Gun (Or sometimes big friggin' gun), from DOOM, right? ^^
Correct-o-mondo. ^__^
Here's your cash prize... -v-
*offers wagon wheel full of NCPs*
The exchange rate in Euro is currently 10,000,000,000,000 NCPs for every one Euro. ^.^
QuoteBTW, if you want I can link you a chart with the history of all the UNIX related systems. It's HUGE.
I think I know which one you're referring to. Still, I'd love to see what you've got. `v'
If you display the one I'm thinking about, I'll give you a cookie.
If you display something new and exciting, I'll give you a bigger cookie.
This one. (http://www.levenez.com/unix/) It was probably the one you were thinking about.
Yes and no. Yes that's the actual Unix family tree source I knew from earlier in my studies. However, it's an update version of the one I knew from before -- it even contains reference to the latest stable Linux kernel version and the iPhoneOS.
Congratulations, Microwave-san! You've earned a mega cookie now! ^v^
Hope this is big enough:
(http://www.wlra.us/wl/wlcookie.jpg)
QuoteI think the latter -- like a baby, she would receive a whole torrential flood of input, but she wouldn't know a thing as to what to do with it.
That's what I assumed...
QuoteIt would certainly not be any less heart-wrenching to see her, at best, just picking up the tears from the metal floor trying to figure out what they are.
Poor UUU-chan :..(
QuoteOh now, this is an Anime subculture after all. Anti-heros are surprisingly quite popular and loved. ^___^
Yeah, there's nothing like a good anti-hero! (<oxymoron)
QuoteUh,... ever heard of the BFG-4000? I'll give you 1,000,000,000,000 New C-chan Points if you can figure out the acronym. ^_______^
On the other hand, a Plasma Gun is probably a lot more practical -- it was my favorite weapon, once upon a time when I played Doom. -v-
I don't think she's anywhere near as powerful as VMS-sama since she might be more dependent on modern weapons for her power instead of sorcery (or even strategy), but she's certainly well above average compared to most modern OS-tans. ^___^
Thanks to Google I now know what a BFG is (that, and Nuker-san's post) ^^
But yeah, a plasma gun would probably be a good weapon for her.
QuoteDon't laugh, but I was thinking of music,... LOUD, EAR-POPPING music!
Course, it's not all hokey -- the music probably contains an ultra-high frequency signal that causes a lot of extra pain and paralyzes any would-be antagonists. Thanks to her special headphones, though, she's not affected. ^^
I've been watching a new TV series called Fringe (think a mix of The Twilight Zone and The X-Files), and one of the episodes actually explored high-frequency sound weapons. So I can buy it.
Actually, Fringe has a lot of characters with odd powers. Last week there was a woman could generate radiation, and the week before a guy who had an uncontrollable ability to manipulate and generate electromagnetism. Kinda OT, but it's a good place to get ideas for odd powers for OS-tans XD
QuoteThat's right. *sniff* ^^
BTW, since they do undoubtedly tell her about her previous incarnations, I'm sure UUU-chan eventually makes it a habit to leave behind journals and time capsules for her to view in the future. That way, she'd be less afraid to give up her precious memories, since there's at least a small guarantee that she may love them all over again.
*baaaaaawls*
How sweet...
QuoteYou don't have to make up with anyone to be a CIOST member. You just have to be useful, and be ready to solve your own problems whenever you're not. ^___________^'
Oh, yeah. That makes sense now. :P
Quote.....Well.... sounds like the right kind of characters to show up in Pilot-chan's stories.
Oh, didn't you know? Like ][-chan, she also does her fair share of tale-telling: real tales, tall tales, war tales, tail tales, the works. And she's reasonably versed in the history of old aviation, so no doubt she might take the story of ORVYL and WYLBURE and... embellish it somewhat. ^.^
Course, the stories are hardly PG-13 -- probably why she only gets a fraction of the attendance that ][-chan draws. ^.^
Dirty, foul-mouthed thoughts are bad for you, Pilot-chan T___T
Still, ORVYL and WYLBUR-tan are kinda a passing thought. After all, I still want to make a completed DTSS, BTSS, WAITS, and Tenex-tan...
QuoteThat a trick question too? ^.^
Since it was a teacher that started the FOSS revolution in Russia, there's no doubt in my mind that ALT Linux-sama is also a teacher. She's kind of like the OLPC-tan of Russia, only older and more mature. ^__^
Aw, I was hoping for a vote of student/schoolgirl (Clearly, I have been watching too much anime XD).
QuoteThis one. It was probably the one you were thinking about.
Wow, I haven't see this updated version either! Thanks for posting this!
Though, looking at it, I'm a bit disturbed by some of the names of these old Unixen...
*goes into hokey stand-up comedian mode*
What, tell me WHAT, in all of hell and creation, is a WOLLONGONG GROUP EUNICE #7? What is a Unicos? Is it like a Unicorn? What's a Mert? Mert and Eunice? Is this a Unix family tree, or a listing of residents at a Queens old folks' home?
*tschtcheta*
QuoteThanks to Google I now know what a BFG is (that, and Nuker-san's post) ^^
But yeah, a plasma gun would probably be a good weapon for her.
The same Google can also give you pictures of what said Plasma Gun looks like (Doom+Plasma Gun). The classic look is probably more recognizable than any newer counterpart (I never played Doom3, so don't know if there is one). ^.^
QuoteI've been watching a new TV series called Fringe (think a mix of The Twilight Zone and The X-Files), and one of the episodes actually explored high-frequency sound weapons. So I can buy it.
Actually, Fringe has a lot of characters with odd powers. Last week there was a woman could generate radiation, and the week before a guy who had an uncontrollable ability to manipulate and generate electromagnetism. Kinda OT, but it's a good place to get ideas for odd powers for OS-tans XD
Ah! There she goes with her cable/network tv shows. ^_________^
Still trying to secure some copies of Lost, just so I can witness for myself the epicenter of much of Bella-hime's joy. -v-
QuoteDirty, foul-mouthed thoughts are bad for you, Pilot-chan T___T
Still, ORVYL and WYLBUR-tan are kinda a passing thought. After all, I still want to make a completed DTSS, BTSS, WAITS, and Tenex-tan...
Focus, girl, focus! ^o^
QuoteAw, I was hoping for a vote of student/schoolgirl (Clearly, I have been watching too much anime XD).
I have too.... And after going through DearS, Mahoromatic and Ichigo 100% non-stop, I would almost get the impression that all female teachers in Anime are raging sex fiends AND.... a little on the... bouncy... side. -.-;
Quote*goes into hokey stand-up comedian mode*
What, tell me WHAT, in all of hell and creation, is a WOLLONGONG GROUP EUNICE #7? What is a Unicos? Is it like a Unicorn? What's a Mert? Mert and Eunice? Is this a Unix family tree, or a listing of residents at a Queens old folks' home?
*tschtcheta*
Where's my sauce pan?! A sauce pan needs to be on her head this second! Come on people, work the sauce pan! ^v^
Kukuku... ^.^
QuoteThe same Google can also give you pictures of what said Plasma Gun looks like (Doom+Plasma Gun). The classic look is probably more recognizable than any newer counterpart (I never played Doom3, so don't know if there is one). ^.^
Would it be....this?
(http://uk.gizmodo.com/bfg.jpg)
QuoteAh! There she goes with her cable/network tv shows. ^_________^
Still trying to secure some copies of Lost, just so I can witness for myself the epicenter of much of Bella-hime's joy. -v-
On the ABC site you can watch full episodes of Lost, but it's only within the US, so I dunno if it'd apply to you. The DVDs should be pretty easy to find or rent, though ^.^
And don't mind any of my TV fangirlism. I come from a family with both a Star Wars fanboy and a Star Trek/Babylon 5/Stargate/Lost fanboy, so I pale in comparison XD
QuoteI have too.... And after going through DearS, Mahoromatic and Ichigo 100% non-stop, I would almost get the impression that all female teachers in Anime are raging sex fiends AND.... a little on the... bouncy... side. -.-;
Looks like someone needs to get their mind outta the gutter TT
QuoteWhere's my sauce pan?! A sauce pan needs to be on her head this second! Come on people, work the sauce pan! ^v^
Kukuku... ^.^
WTF? Now I'M confused ;026
QuoteWould it be....this?
Almost... I think that's definitely the Doom3 variant. Here's the classic one -- pixelated to death, but note the beige.... crinkly part. ^___^
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Plasma_rifle
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And don't mind any of my TV fangirlism. I come from a family with both a Star Wars fanboy and a Star Trek/Babylon 5/Stargate/Lost fanboy, so I pale in comparison XD
Ohhh... if not for the last three movies, I might've joined along with the first fanboy group. And maybe even the second some 15 years ago.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh... the nostalgia is flowing. ^^
QuoteWTF? Now I'M confused
You know,... that common Japanese gag were people who are not funny get hit by a giant pan that comes from nowhere.
Gah! Now it ain't funny anymore. X.X
*crawls towards a corner, rolls into a ball and mopes*
Oh wait,....
*pulls rope*
*gets crushed by giant sauce pan*
*stares at giant cookie*
...
I could get used to this...
By the way, Microsoft showcased Windows 7 (milestone 3) at PDC2008. You can find a lot of info here: http://www.vista123.net/category/vista/windows-7
Seems like Microsoft has managed not to screw up and that the os-tan profile I posted in the 7-tan thread is spot-on. Me happy ^^
(BTW, there's gonna be an open beta very soon.)
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Open beta? From M$? The flying!?
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Whoa, whoa, whoa. Open beta? From M$? The flying!?
Yeah, sounds downright impossible, but if you want to download it and try it, you can :P
Considering how the Betas went with Vista, that seems highly unlikely...
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Considering how the Betas went with Vista, that seems highly unlikely...
It's
official. The beta is open.
http://www.vista123.net/content/microsoft-slates-windows-7-public-beta-early-2009
Unexpected. Well, well, I wonder what'll happen...and how stripped the beta will be from the fancypants stuff.
If the Beta turns out to be a real Beta, with just a few bugs in difference to the complete product, I'll drown myself.
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Unexpected. Well, well, I wonder what'll happen...and how stripped the beta will be from the fancypants stuff.
If the Beta turns out to be a real Beta, with -no- bugs, I'll drown myself.
Fixed. Various people have had the alpha version on their PCs for a while now, and they have experienced no major bug/crash whatsoever. And we're talking about an
alpha version. I have an hard time believing it myself, but we're talking about professional technology writers and experts.
This is so absurd that I get the feeling the end of the world is near...
As for your question... it seems Microsoft wants to streamline the development process: they will have one beta, one release candidate, and that's it, so it's possible the beta will have a lot of the stuff which will be in the final version.
Actually, Longhorn WAS a WILDLY popular Open Beta too. It's just that the "Open" beta wasn't exactly legal. ^____^
Kukuku! Oh happy days of playing with that infernal thing.... -v-
It's not surprising at all that the alpha/beta versions of Vienna (calling the Windows 7 beta by its old codename) are relatively stable. If you consider that Vienna is at its heart an updated version of Vista with some of its intentionally-annoying features removed (or trimmed down at least), then you could easily make the case that development began 7 years ago, and the whole Vista debacle was literally a fiendishly expensive beta test of the product.
There's no doubt in my mind Windows 7 will be what Vista could have been if it were not crippled -- I remember Longhorn as being a pretty decent system, and certainly the technology displayed in Vienna (such as touchscreen support, network-integrated apps, KDE-style panel bars and ribbon-based apps) existed back in 2006. And unlike before, Micro$oft is in more of a precarious position in terms of market share loss than its willing to admit, so this time around they might not be able to afford to #$%& around with consumers like they did before.
However, an excellent, unencumbered, stable product is not necessarily in line with the company's bottom line in this particular market sector -- it certainly conflicts with the profit drive of hardware manufacturers, 3rd party software vendors and DRM proponents. So at least this risk exists that they may cripple the final version somehow.
Still curious about price, availability and versioning. ;)
Wow, so Windows 7 beta will be free for the public to try out? A couple of years ago I would have been totally onboard with trying it out, and I admit I still have a shred of curiosity to see what the most stable, usable Windows release will be like...
But then I remember the promise I made myself, that after XP, I will never use a Windows OS again. XP was the first Windows I ever enjoyed using (and still do), and will be the last, regardless of how much M$ may improve their products in the future. I couldn't imagine supporting a company that goes against everything I think is right.
Curse my hardheadedness...^^
Alright, to properly snuggle myself back into this forum and to spark some more discussion in this thread, I would like to bring up two concepts that have been touched on before.
XINU-tan:
Or "amas-XINU" or even "masa-XINU", if we chose to reverse the kana of sama instead of the romanization.
My thought was to make her a Bizarro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro) UNIX-sama. I don't mean to trample on Bella-san's awesome concept. A Native American XINU definitely fits the logo better. I just wanted to throw out the idea. However it goes, I wholeheartedly agree to the reverse-speaking quirk.
Oralux-tan:
I have a few concept sketches made. Hopefully I'll get some posted sometime (if they haven't been lost in my most recent move). However, I had a thought that her seeing-eye chicken is actually an Oralux-kun....under a similar curse as a very familiar Jusenkyo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jusenkyo#Jusenkyo)-doused porcine. I have concept sketches for him, too.
Also, I like the direction UUU-chan's backstory is going! :D
QuoteAlright, to properly snuggle myself back into this forum and to spark some more discussion in this thread, I would like to bring up two concepts that have been touched on before.
Yay! Siya-san has jump-started the Theories thread! Good to see you back. I would've thought you dropped off the face of the earth if not for the fact you found my DA page.
QuoteXINU-tan:
Or "amas-XINU" or even "masa-XINU", if we chose to reverse the kana of sama instead of the romanization.
My thought was to make her a Bizarro UNIX-sama. I don't mean to trample on Bella-san's awesome concept. A Native American XINU definitely fits the logo better. I just wanted to throw out the idea. However it goes, I wholeheartedly agree to the reverse-speaking quirk.
No problem, I happily welcome any new suggestions for my OS-tan designs. There's nothing I love to hear more than the input of others. ;010
Ironically I was thinking of XINU-tan awhile back, and how to make her more unique...I really like your idea of making her a sort of Bizarro Unix-sama. Light hair, eyes, perfectly approachable and pleasant, even cheerful-- she should probably still be kept a bit on the youngish side, though. And we could always incorporate a few Native American aspects, as well.
This would make for quite a bit of humor between amas-XINU and some of her Unixen relatives. :P
QuoteOralux-tan:
I have a few concept sketches made. Hopefully I'll get some posted sometime (if they haven't been lost in my most recent move). However, I had a thought that her seeing-eye chicken is actually an Oralux-kun....under a similar curse as a very familiar Jusenkyo-doused porcine. I have concept sketches for him, too.
I checked out the Oralux site but I'm still a bit unclear... is it some sort of LiveCD distro geared toward the visually impaired? I suppose Oralux-tan would be blind herself, with a seeing eye chicken as a pet; this sounds like an offbeat and interesting design. I would really like to see the concept sketches of this. ^^
QuoteAlso, I like the direction UUU-chan's backstory is going!
Yeah, for being based on such a little-known and quite dead OS, the character design is really very incredible. I'd like to do a finished drawing of her (it'd be quite easy, with the suit and all).
QuoteI checked out the Oralux site but I'm still a bit unclear... is it some sort of LiveCD distro geared toward the visually impaired?
Exactly! Here is a review (http://lwn.net/Articles/45329/). It is ever-so-slightly more informative. Since Oralux ceased development, the home page is much less helpful.
QuoteHowever, I had a thought that her seeing-eye chicken is actually an Oralux-kun....under a similar curse as a very familiar Jusenkyo-doused porcine. I have concept sketches for him, too.
*cough cough* Not sure who you might be talking about.... Jusenky-doused pigs... how droll. *cough cough* ^.^;
That is a neat concept, btw. ^__^b
BTW, thank you for stopping by Siya-san~! I was hoping you'd stop by so I could say good-bye, but if things work out well this may not be the last time I see you. -v-
Quote
Also, I like the direction UUU-chan's backstory is going!
Another sap lover it seems. ^___^
QuoteIronically I was thinking of XINU-tan awhile back, and how to make her more unique...I really like your idea of making her a sort of Bizarro Unix-sama. Light hair, eyes, perfectly approachable and pleasant, even cheerful-- she should probably still be kept a bit on the youngish side, though. And we could always incorporate a few Native American aspects, as well.
This would make for quite a bit of humor between amas-XINU and some of her Unixen relatives. :P
OMG~!!!! Are you thinking what I'm thinking?!!! @.@
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*imagines Unix-sama, amas-XINU, and C-One imitating either of them in the same room*
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*brain explodes* >_______<
As for her looks, we could easily say she looks near-identical to UNIX-sama (except for the lighter hair and eyes), but her clothing is distinctly native American. A sharp contrast to the dull, minimalist, and often distinctly Westernized dresses that UNIX-sama wears.
Change her dress, add a splash of hair dye, a couple of contacts, and LOTS AND LOTS of acting lessons, and maybe she TOO could be volunteered for some stand-in jobs. ^___^;
Now if we could get either another doppleganger or a cloner (Virtualbox-tan?), we could have FOUR UNIX-samas in the same room. I don't think Slack-chan would be able to even TALK cohesively after that experience. ^__^
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Yeah, for being based on such a little-known and quite dead OS, the character design is really very incredible. I'd like to do a finished drawing of her (it'd be quite easy, with the suit and all).
Feel free to let me know if I can help with the shading/lighting. I have to admit I'm not up to speed anymore doing start-to-finish characters, but I seem to have some small talent left for that kind of post-production. I managed to finish Plan9-sama's shading work and the User Space Gang back scenery in record time, upsetting my undefeated string of upsets. ^^'
QuoteExactly! Here is a review. It is ever-so-slightly more informative. Since Oralux ceased development, the home page is much less helpful.
Thank you, that clears things up a bit more.
Hmmm....Fried Chicken Linux-tan...Oralux-tan....I'm seeing a pattern of chicken-based Linux distros. Are chickens related to penguins by any chance? :P
QuoteOMG~!!!! Are you thinking what I'm thinking?!!! @.@
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*imagines Unix-sama, amas-XINU, and C-One imitating either of them in the same room*
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*brain explodes* >_______<
As for her looks, we could easily say she looks near-identical to UNIX-sama (except for the lighter hair and eyes), but her clothing is distinctly native American. A sharp contrast to the dull, minimalist, and often distinctly Westernized dresses that UNIX-sama wears.
Change her dress, add a splash of hair dye, a couple of contacts, and LOTS AND LOTS of acting lessons, and maybe she TOO could be volunteered for some stand-in jobs. ^___^;
Now if we could get either another doppleganger or a cloner (Virtualbox-tan?), we could have FOUR UNIX-samas in the same room. I don't think Slack-chan would be able to even TALK cohesively after that experience. ^__^
I agree with these suggestions about amas-XINU! Don't know about VirtualBox-tan being another doppleganger (some sort of mediator always did fit the bill a bit more); but Unix-sama always did have a lot of OS-tan "clones", now didn't she? Still wouldn't make it any better on Slackware-chan, though. ^^
*thinks about four Unix-samas in one room*
*passes out*
QuoteFeel free to let me know if I can help with the shading/lighting. I have to admit I'm not up to speed anymore doing start-to-finish characters, but I seem to have some small talent left for that kind of post-production. I managed to finish Plan9-sama's shading work and the User Space Gang back scenery in record time, upsetting my undefeated string of upsets. ^^'
I sure will! A vector sketch would be quite easy, I admit quick shadework is a bit more difficult...
Quote from: "C-Chan"BTW, thank you for stopping by Siya-san~! I was hoping you'd stop by so I could say good-bye, but if things work out well this may not be the last time I see you. -v-
You'll be missed, C-chan! A while back, I noticed you were planning to leave. Probably before I even came here. I was hoping that the situation had changed, but I realize that real life has more urgency and is in more need of our dedication than any internet community. I hope you get the opportunity to visit in the future (and I hope I'm not on an unexplained hiatus at the time >.>; ). Good luck in your future endeavors! ^^
Also, I had fully intended to do a picture for you kind of as a birthday/thank you gift...but I couldn't figure out what to do and I got busy with work (and maybe SPORE ^^; ). So, I'm sorry that never happened.
QuoteNow if we could get either another doppleganger or a cloner (Virtualbox-tan?), we could have FOUR UNIX-samas in the same room. I don't think Slack-chan would be able to even TALK cohesively after that experience. ^__^
Maybe Ghostzilla-tan could get in on this action. Though I forgot whether we decided her disguise ability was
solely as Firefox or
primarily as Firefox. That and I've been getting a database error when I've tried to view the Wiki.
QuoteHmmm....Fried Chicken Linux-tan...Oralux-tan....I'm seeing a pattern of chicken-based Linux distros. Are chickens related to penguins by any chance? :P
Other than that they're............... fish?
Or mammals?
Or reptiles?
Gee,... I forget what animal kingdom category chickens and penguins might belong to? ^.^
Quote*thinks about four Unix-samas in one room*
*passes out*
Oh what the hey! Second time's a charm! ^v^
*passes out again*
QuoteI sure will! A vector sketch would be quite easy, I admit quick shadework is a bit more difficult...
I know it's exhausting to do a drawing start to finish, but broken into two parts actually makes it a little more manageable.
I know from experience fumbling around with the BSD-tans that I've gotten pretty weak at the initial sketchwork and coloring, but have improved a little with shading and highlighting -- a complete reversal of how I used to be when I first came here. That being said, I think it makes sense that I offer my serves as your personal shader, lighter and special effects pig. ^___^
That being said, I need to make it very clear that YOU will now be my boss. I definitely won't be creating anymore drawings of my own (unless they deal directy with my programming), so aside from the usual brainstorming I'm gonna depend almost primarily on you for spearheading the actual drawing effort. That means everything can be designed exclusively to your own tastes and art direction. ^^
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You'll be missed, C-chan! A while back, I noticed you were planning to leave. Probably before I even came here. I was hoping that the situation had changed, but I realize that real life has more urgency and is in more need of our dedication than any internet community. I hope you get the opportunity to visit in the future (and I hope I'm not on an unexplained hiatus at the time >.>; ). Good luck in your future endeavors! ^^
Thank you Siya-san. ^__^
Admittedly, I won't return to OSC -- I've already committed not to look back. However, aside from my newfound programming efforts (which I'll be able to commit to a lot more frequently now), I'm also going to spend a little time each week doing freelancery at DeviantArt. Suffice to say, as long as you help out with DeviantOS-tans, you'll see me again. Just don't be surprised if my name is RADICALLY different. ^.^
(wow, it's gonna be sooooooooooo different.... -v-)
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Also, I had fully intended to do a picture for you kind of as a birthday/thank you gift...but I couldn't figure out what to do and I got busy with work (and maybe SPORE ^^; ). So, I'm sorry that never happened.
Fufufu... well you could have had me (C-chan) sleep peacefully over Momonga-chan's tail or me lie comfortably on Musix-sama's lap having my ears cleaned, or perhaps lie me in bed between FreeSBIE-sama and RoFreeSBIE-sama.... *giggles lecherously* ^.^
Just kidding though... don't worry about it, Siya-san. ^__^
I'm happy enough that you enjoyed that uber-quick drawing I did. Given how surprisingly-often gift pics were tossed to the curb in the past, I'm ever so grateful that you seriously appreciated it. ^^
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Maybe Ghostzilla-tan could get in on this action. Though I forgot whether we decided her disguise ability was solely as Firefox or primarily as Firefox. That and I've been getting a database error when I've tried to view the Wiki.
unfortunately Fedora-Tan still has a few things to enable in this forum.
Please, since I will no longer be around to request anything of him, PLEASE PM him with any problems you encounter in the forum. If you stay silent, he's gonna assume that no news is good neews. -v-
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And I guess that's it for that. ^^
I'm gonna miss this Wall O' Text central that is the OS-tan Theories and Discussions thread. So many interesting ideas and characters were born here. Even though DA will limit the availability of discussion areas for ideas like these, I'm sure we can come up with a way to continue such active brainstorming.
To all who remain, have fun and happy theorizing!! ^v^
Good huntin! Dismissed! ^0^
*C-chan salutes and signs off*
Wow, my first post in this thread and it follows the very last post by the great Buta-senpai. Following the recommendation of the talented Bella-sama, I thought I'd pop in here and throw out and idea of mine I've been sitting on for quite some time. It's not an OS-tan, but an app-tan (I do have a few OS-tan ideas, but I really want to see how well this idea fares). I don't know how many people use this application, or if anyone (in this forum, that is) is a big of a fan as I am of it, but I really like Amarok. It's a really awesome jukebox for Linux (I think since KDE has been ported to Windows, Amarok is bundled with it), which I think does a good job as an alternative to iTunes. So it really surprised me when I couldn't find an Amarok-tan. So I started thinking, what should Amarok-tan look like. What I'm currently envisioning resembles Haruko Haruhara from FLCL except with wolf ears and a tail (Amarok is Inuit for wolf) possibly wearing headphones or wielding a Rickenbacker (or knockoff) bass guitar (like Haruko) with everything in a blue and white theme (like Amarok). I think the headphones might work better, especially if they were visibly attached to a portable audio player, because it would demonstrate the function program in a more analogous fashion. I just don't know how it would fit with the wolf ears, perhaps they could be earbuds. Pardon the lack of detail, I'm having trouble recalling the entire concept. I'll see if can come up with a picture that accurately depicts what I'm describing.
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Bwooo. Haruko. In my OSC? Seems more than likely...
FARK YARGH. -w-
Ahh, I've been waiting for the day we would see a -tan based on Haruko. ^^;
I like the concept of her being a wolf-girl, and I think the Haruko character template would fit really well. I think she would look best having wolf ears. Dunno about the headphones or music player (since she's going to have a guitar, perhaps she's already a musician?), but maybe she would look cool with a boombox. It is your character, though, so you should have the final say in the design. :P
All in all, this is a really good concept-- you're on to something here. Having a good character concept is half the battle. I really look forward to what other app-tan and OS-tan ideas you have floating around. :D
Are there any plans of making two more error tans One with black hair and one with white hair as well as Browser Tans like; Google Chrome Tan and Flock Tan, OS Tans like; ReactOS Tan, and other searches besides Google like; Yahoo and Bing(Livesearch/msn) Tans? I really suck at drawing so I really can't but I think I might give ideas. The two new error tans could be error 500 Internal server error and error 503 Service Temporarily Down error. Yahoo tan may use many purple and yellow colors while the msn tan could use a completely new image possibly using the windows logo as well as it's new Bing logo. Google Chrome Tan can use it's main colors and a great amount of blue as Chrome's default and little gadgets as minor designs. React OS is a clone of XP SP1 so there might be a good thinking amount there.
*dusts off thread*
Wow, this got buried...
Okay, so I have an idea. There are like, three versions of Mac OSX-tan, and we want to except them all as the same character.
(http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/341/2/b/3_OSX_Leopard_tans_by_Kattlanna.png)
And then there's Snow Leopard-tan, who I want to accept as the same character as Leopard-tan (because, well, it's basically a re-coloured Leopard-tan).
BUT THEY'RE ALL SO FRIGGIN PHYSICALLY DIFFERENT.
So, I propose a theory: Snow/Leopard-tan has a mild degree of shapeshifting ability (at least hair/eye colour). She developed this as a tactic to avoid time-paradoxes in her "travels"; in case she ran into a past version of herself, her past self wouldn't recognize her future self, and no weird paradoxes would result form any encounter between her different selves.
Y/N?
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OH! And this would also explain how our dear little Leopard-tan would be able to transform herself into an XP-tan doppleganger with her magical Boot Camp brooch.
I think it sounds reasonable.
Agreed. It sounds reasonable.
Reasonability = 0.89 out of 1.
Seems to make sense
Okay, cool! :B
I realize this is a pretty egregious necropost,
BUT. I complied this rather huge paper on OS-tans and their animal anthropomorphisms, and I had no place to put it. It's too speculative/OT for the wiki or annex threads, so I figured instead of making a new theories thread I'd just reuse the one we already have.
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OS-tans and Totem Animals: Or How Marketing Sometimes Gets Things Eerily Right
Part I
I did not write most of what you see here. Instead the information presented here was culled from several sites around the 'Net, links to which will be provided. I do not claim to be an authority on animal symbolism nor that these sites are authoritative either, but I believe the information provided is mostly accurate. Hopefully this will offer some fascinating insights into the animals chosen to "represent" various OS-tans and may provide new insights on old characters.
The symbolism is presented here without comment, and I invite you, the reader, to figure out how they relate to the characters. Some of these will be plainly apparent, while others may come off as ironic, inverting the best (or worse) traits of the character. Or perhaps they really do tell a truth, one nobody can see at first glimpse? In this way, animal anthropomorphisms challenge you to look past your preconceived notions and into the soul of a character.
Name: Multics
Animal: Eagle (As of 2008. Formerly: Snow owl)
Suggested by: Bella, as a reference to the eagle mascot in the Multics Man comics
"Swiftness, Strength, Courage, Wisdom, Keen Sight, Illumination of Spirit, Healing, Creation, Knowledge of Magick, Ability to See Hidden Spiritual Truths, Connection to Spirit Guides and Teachers, Power, Intelligence, Renewal, Clear Vision, The Solar Bird, Spiritual Power, Carries Souls Back to the Dreamtime, Soul World Memory, Retrieves Lost Soul Parts." 1
With its acute eyesight, the eagle has come to embody an all-seeing eye. The eagle is often a solar symbol, and can be linked to all sky gods. It signifies inspiration, release from bondage, victory, longevity, speed, pride, the father and royalty; it is often an emblem for powerful nations... The eagle is often depicted in combat with other animals; when seen in combat with a BULL or LION, it represents the spirit or the intellect in conflict with the physical. When shown with a serpent in its talons, the two represent the struggle and unity of LIGHT and DARKNESS; good and evil. In this context the eagle depicts LIGHT and good, while the serpent represents evil and DARKNESS. Often its opposite is the OWL - the bird of darkness and death."...
Name: Bell Labs Unix
Animal: Horned owl
Suggested by: C-chan, as a reference to an O'Reilly book on Unix that has an owl on the cover
"Silent and Swift Movement, Seeing Behind Masks, Keen Sight, Messenger of Secrets and Omens, Shape-Shifting, Link Between the Dark, Unseen World and the World of Light, Comfort with Shadow Self, Moon Magick, Freedom, Silent Wisdom, Nocturnal Vision, Healing Powers, Magical, Detachment, Change, the Mystery of Magic, Omens, the Arts, Watchfulness, Night Magicks, Truth, Patience." 1
"In ancient Egyptian, Celtic, and Hindu cultures the symbolic meaning of owl revolved around guardianship of the underworlds, and a protection of the dead. In this light the owl was ruler of the night and seer of souls. A misunderstanding of this necessary relationship gave the owl some negative associations with death." 2
"Through pop culture references... and folklore, we all associate owls with wisdom at some time or other. Rather than intellectual wisdom, though, owls are connected with the wisdom of the soul. However, there are other qualities that owl has. Owls are often seen as mysterious, mostly because many owls are strictly nocturnal and humans have always found night to be full of mystery and the unknown. Owls live within the darkness, which includes magic, mystery, and ancient knowledge. Related to the night is the moon, which owls are also connected to. It becomes a symbol of the feminine and fertility, with the moon's cycles of renewal.
Even the mythology relates owl to this wisdom and femininity. The owl was a symbol for Athena, goddess of wisdom and strategy, before the Greeks gave their pantheon human forms. According to myth, an owl sat on Athena's blind side, so that she could see the whole truth. In Ancient Greece, the owl was a symbol of a higher wisdom, and it was also a guardian of the Acropolis. Diana, the Roman response to Athena, was strongly associated with the moon, and also the owl. The Pawnee and the Sioux saw the owl as a messenger (akicita) to the first of all evil creatures (Unktehi). " 3...
Name: SAGE
Animal: Badger
Suggested by: Stewartsage... because the honey badger don't care.
"Keeper of Stories, Bold Self-Expresssion, Aggressiveness, Single-Mindedness, Passion, Cunning, Revenge, Perseverance, Control, Antidote to Passivity or Victimization, Persistence in the Service of a Mission, Groundedness, Knowledge of the Earth, Earth Magick and Wisdom, Creative Action in a Crisis, Protection of Rights and Spiritual Ideas" 1
"Determination, Eagerness, Strong will, Focus, Strategy, Tenacity, Defense, Protection, Independence, Confidence" 2
"The badger stops at nothing to get what it wants... Specifically, those with the badger totem often attract this creature because he/she has difficulty finishing what is started . . . The badger is also fiercly independent and can be quite aggressive when threatened ... Although smaller in stature, the badger commands attention from friend and foe alike.
The symbolism of the badger also includes individuality. The badger is a unique creature, well equipped to meet all the challenges it faces. It lives its life quite effectively. And although its methods might seem unorthodox, the badger doesn't care what the rest of the animal kingdom thinks about them....the badger tell us to "walk your own path at your own pace." Nevermind what others may say. Have faith in your own abilities and know that you are well-equipped to take on whatever challenge faces you." 2Name: OpenVMS
Animal: Shark
Suggested by: DEC Marketing
"Ability to Move Constantly, Remorselessness, Never Being Caught Off Guard, Ability to Defend Oneself, Hunter, Survival, Adaptability" 1
"Calculating, Perceptive, Primal, Instinctive, Ancient, Knowing, Powerful, Focused, Mystery, Perpetual Motion, Dynamic, Unique Vision, Curious, Effective, Innovative, Superior, Efficient, Equipped"
"The shark...conveys a message of sleek authority. And the shark is an authority on all fronts of survival. In fact, those who connect with the shark totem will be masters at survival ... Shark people are extremely adept at summing up social situations, manipulating people and events (I don't mean that in a bad way). People with the shark totem navigate through life with a specialized "gut-rudder"... a primal instinct. It's a visceral, hard-wired knowing that guides certain humans. It's infallible, reliable, and geared for one thing only: To protect... life.
...rarely stays in the "shallow end" of life, but prefers to move deftly through the waves of experience - encountering adventure with undeniable exuberance.
And for all this zealous talk of life, the shark is also symbolically equipped to share lessons of death too. Actually, sharks know death is a fallacy. They have no concept of it. Sharks are in a constant state of renewal, and those with the shark totem will confirm the absence of death. Sharks, and humans attuned to sharks will only see renewal - only transition.
Sharks are superior organisms. From tail to teeth, sharks convey perpetual fluidity and momentum. They are examples of progress in its most assertive stages. To wit, their biological mechanisms are so elite, they've had no need to evolve over insane spans of time. They function from a place of timeless propulsion. Ever-forward.
Perhaps it is the sharks unsinkable nature that makes it a bit of a cold character (energetically speaking). Sharks are about aerodynamic efficiency, and they allow no fluff to enter their consciousness. They're quite austere and are wrapped in robes of distance and mystery. Those with shark totems will display similar aloofness. Inwardly, they sense the waves of emotions within and around them. Yet, outwardly they are cool, controlled, steely. This makes people of the shark clan extremely good businessmen/women, leaders and visionaries.
It's important to note the inherent duality here. The element of water is esoterically symbolic of emotions, dreams and intuition. And yet, the shark conveys a sterility in emotion. To be clear, the shark is not symbolically devoid of emotion. Rather, it is a master of emotion.
...Such a uniquely equipped creature, with so many (seeming) contradictions. We see an energy in the shark that is so linear and spear-like in its objective....yet, at the same time there is such delicate elegance." 2...
I have more jotted down, but these are probably the most accurate OS-tan/animal pairings I've seen. Maybe I'll write another post explaining WHY I find these so spot-on as well as personal thoughts on the animals listed, but I'll just leave this here for now.
Sources:
1: http://onespiritx.tripod.com/magick18.htm
2: http://www.whats-your-sign.com/animal-totems.html
3: http://www.pure-spirit.com/more-animal-symbolism/400-owl
Y NOBODY REPLY TO MY WALLOTEXT? ;___;
Anyway... since I really have no other place to put it.... these are (some of) my Official Vistan Choices.
Home Premium:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11639/normal_vistahome.png)
(Note: due to the similar hair color and decorations I MAY consider this to be Chivistan)
Business:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/11639/normal_vistabusiness.png)
Ultimate:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10274/normal_Vista.jpg)
(IF a separate character from the first Vistan I posted)
Home Basic:
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10622/normal_1175613037909.jpg)
(I may consider this the same character as Visbou, due to similar hairstyle, colors, etc)
I personally consider the Home Premium one to be "official". I like the design; simple, but still looks good
Although, the Business one is nice; reminding me a little bit of 2k-tan
Blue hair. Me gusta
AFAIK, the "official" -tans are Visbou and Vistake...and since those are the ones with the most material (including material with both at the same time), I find them best used for the purpose - Vistake is generally representative of all versions below Ultimate, which Visbou represents.
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AFAIK, the "official" -tans are Visbou and Vistake...and since those are the ones with the most material (including material with both at the same time), I find them best used for the purpose - Vistake is generally representative of all versions below Ultimate, which Visbou represents.
Not in my story canon, they aren't. <_<
Besides, I fail to see how those two reflect the system in any way. Way too pun-based/random for my tastes....
Since this topic was resurrected, and since I've had a lot of time to think about this with how slow it's been at work, I figured I may as well drop in one of my theories about the OS-tan universe; more precisely, what variations of 2k-tan represent what version of Windows 2000. As it was established long before I even knew what OS-tans where, this version (The one that's widely considered canon) (http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10213/2k~1.jpg) represents Professional edition. However, there are still 2 other versions not accounted for: NT 5.0 (The beta version), as well as Server and it's spin-offs (Advanced and Datacenter).
Personally, I feel that this version (http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/12513/2k.jpg) represents Server. The way she's dressed and is sitting, she seems less like an employee and more like a boss; being there to supervise her employees and provide what they need to do their job. Seeing as an administrator can use a server OS in a similar way (Monitor other computers connected to it, as well as storage of documents and other stuff employees would need for their job), it makes sense to me that this variation would represent Server.
As for NT 5.0 beta, that would be this version (http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/os-tans/Windows%202000/1102552349200.jpg), or any of the young or loli versions of 2k, seeing as both are "in development"; who hopes of one day becoming a great OS.
The very last one I came up with was that futa 2k represents the NES "version" of Windows 2000 (As seen in this Let's Play video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_IGb0WyLRQ)), although it was merely a joke that came about one night when I was really tired.
So, any thoughts?
i agree with the loli reps of 2k being her in 'training' or 'development' (although 'developing' sounds rather awkward when applied to a character ><; ), especially given the comic of her with the alt-NT learning.
on the other hand, i disagree with the server rep, given the fish-version out there. if the other servers are fish-type, why not all? :\
if we're on the topic of what's canon and what's not, i'd ask if anyone is going to question os-kun canonness. but idk if anyone besides me cares too much ^^;
Well, I hadn't found any fish-2k pics, so I went with that one.
Also, I don't see why the OS-kuns wouldn't be considered part of canon. After all, they are to the OS-tans as Supergirl is to Superman
which is why i thought no one would question. plus, os-kun pics are in very short supply, especially given that i lost all the pics i had and kazumi crapped out. too bad, since i had some of a young 3.1-kun.
before i get off topic, should we revive the thread? there was still alot to talk about, if i remember right. :3
This thread got revived when I posted my tl;dr on OS-tan Totem Animals. It's just that nobody noticed. >_>
Speaking of which...
I'm thinking Canadian Goose as Whirlwind's animal (look at said variety of goose, compare color scheme with Whirlwind's, not to mention the whole motherhood aspect of things, which works, since she's sort of the universal mother to all minicomputers/a lot of mainframes). PDP-1-chan strikes me as a bluebird... specifically, THIS bluebird (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebird_of_happiness).
Harvard Mark I is a white swan. It just fits her personality really well.
And I'm getting a wolverine-ish feeling from OS/2-tan. -w-
by 'revive' i meant discuss the long forgotten topics such as the os-tan 'world' and family trees. not to mention the os class system. @___@;;
not that spirit animals aren't cool. :3
I'd like to see those things brought back too. A few days ago, I added some more details to the OS-tan setting article on the wiki.
Also I'm developing some character bios in the Annex thread and would like some input on those too.
So it's this thread (or the OS-tan Theory 101 thread) for nearly all OS-tan conjecture, and the Annex thread for bios. Let's keep this at least somewhat organized.
i've been somewhat avoiding the annex thread because most of what was going on there didn't involve me, but i'll try to sneak back in. >>;
also, since i had some questions on naming, i revived the N:YI thread too. :\
most of it is antique-tans, though, and idk anything about that. :\
btw, while i have you on the line, how did Apple I-sama die?
She died of illness/depleted life force in late 1979. It was in 1978 that her health (and life force) started to decline, referencing the destruction of many of the Apple Is in '78 when they were traded in for an Apple II at a discounted price. :(
(I bet those people who got rid of their Apple Is are regretting it!)
ah. then i should find a different final twist to my story arc, since I-sama wouldn't have been around at the point in time. :\
That's unfortunate. :(
How's that story coming along? I'm really interested!
i finished one story arc, but i still need to draw it. speedy's lack of internet has made drawing much more appealing, however, so i'm hoping to finish the second chapter of the comic soon. so far, i've got 6 chapters planned out, and 3 more story arcs in mind. :3