Eric Schwartz was one of pioneers of the home-made computer animation, thanks to Amiga.
He won lots of animation competitions in the eighties and in the nineties, and was also the guy who created the first Amiga mascotte (i.e. a sort of Amiga-Tan before even the concept of OS-TANs was born) in the person of Amy the Squirrel, a very sexy furry lady.
(http://rigby-jones.net/es/top/amy.gif)
(http://www.sitting-ducks.com/~jeff/linkgifs/ami.gif)
Last month he created, still all using with his Amiga 4000 (except he assembled the anim for youtube thru Macintosh), this nice tribute animation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mg6wrYCT9Q
Enjoy it! Enjoy Amiga!
Aa sou sou,... it's great to see some of recent works by Amy-san's creator. ^^
*sniff*
So beautiful... ;_;
ZOMG get me a net it's a Pitkin sighting!!!
But really, that was a great video! I really enjoyed it! ^_^
And yeah, Amy has gotten quite a makeover, too ^////^
What a sad use for a lovely song.
I think I lost all respect for the Amiga fandom in one blow.
:P funny thing tho.. I think i played portal/halflife 2 on a Windows PC
Plus, I distance myself from anyone that makes furries these days.
LAWD, IS THAT SUM "YIFF IN HELL"?
Quote from: "CaptBrenden":P funny thing tho.. I think i played portal/halflife 2 on a Windows PC
I sincerly hope he did *not* play Portal, otherwise such use of GLaDOS would be unforgivable.
I'll just convince myself he heard the song and decided to abuse it like that.
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I'll just convince myself he heard the song and decided to abuse it like that.
Come on... Don't be so serious... Don't you see the humor in it? ;012
YIFF YIFF YIFF
(or wait, I didn't see it yet)
still
YIFF YIFF YIFF
No not really :P no humor seen, maybe I need my binos to see it out on the horizon
Moar liek HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE, amirite? ^^
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I'll just convince myself he heard the song and decided to abuse it like that.
Come on... Don't be so serious... Don't you see the humor in it? ;012
Nope.
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I'll just convince myself he heard the song and decided to abuse it like that.
Come on... Don't be so serious... Don't you see the humor in it? ;012
Nope.
Various times worldwide morons said Amiga is dead after the Commodore demise, and it is still here with various new hardware, three different OSs descending from it, and various clones of ancient hardware...
Eric Schwartz drawn many images depicting "Still Alive Amigas" to answer to these morons, and when he heard that music, he used it for his animation because it is perfect fitting for it.
This animation features still alive Amiga making jokes about Peecees, by poisoning it with Viruses (it is still true danger for PCs) and eliminating Macintosh as she was was a killer.
Now this animation it is just fun. If you don't like it, then It is not my guilty.
I don't care of your taste... For me it is funny.
If you do not like it, then just do no see it...
There are worst things on internet...
And there are worst things even from Amiga zealots...
Now you seen Eric Schwartz "Still Alive" animation an you disliked it...
Now what you have done if I had shown you this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PVUB4eElTo
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QuoteVarious times worldwide morons said Amiga is dead after the Commodore demise, and it is still here with various new hardware, three different OSs descending from it, and various clones of ancient hardware...
And how is that being still alive?
Back when the Amiga was great everyone had one, now if you want one you have to find it one in some convention or buy one of those PowerPC-based clones.
Tha Amiga may not be technically dead in the sense that it does still exist as a platform, but to speak as like nothing has changed is plain delusional.
QuoteEric Schwartz drawn many images depicting "Still Alive Amigas" to answer to these morons, and when he heard that music, he used it for his animation because it is perfect fitting for it.
Yet it's got NOTHING to do with the actual meaning of the lyrics, which you can't truly understand unless you play Portal.
QuoteThis animation features still alive Amiga making jokes about Peecees, by poisoning it with Viruses (it is still true danger for PCs) and eliminating Macintosh as she was was a killer.
QuoteNow this animation it is just fun. If you don't like it, then It is not my guilty.
It almost looks as it is though, you took so much hassle to try to explain to me why it's funny.
I frankly don't even care.
QuoteI don't care of your taste... For me it is funny.
Here you iterate again.
QuoteIf you do not like it, then just do no see it...
That's exactly what I do.
Why are you making such a big deal out of it?
QuoteThere are worst things on internet...
So just because there are worse things I'm not allowed to voice my opinion on less worse things?
QuoteAnd there are worst things even from Amiga zealots...
I guess.
QuoteNow you seen Eric Schwartz "Still Alive" animation an you disliked it...
Yep, what's so hard to accept about it?
QuoteNow what you have done if I had shown you this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PVUB4eElTo
Random, not really funny but worth a chuckle I guess.
I'll tell you, it's actually funnier than most of the "I'm a Mac I'm a PC" spoofs I've seen around.
You even take the hassle of replying with a picture and... wait? Uffa?
Mica sei italiano per caso? o_O
EDIT: Hey, I just noticed that quote of Jean-Louis Gassée on your signature, I completely forgot about that guy! To think he actually left a successfull company to found Be, Inc.
Though honestly looking at it Apple wasn't in a good place at the moment, that quote being from 96 which if I recall correctly wasn't one of their best years.
Ironically the Amiga was the one that didn't survive the competition, while Apple actually kept existing and still exists.
Oy....I hate to accidentally fan a flamewar, but I really hope I can put this one out...
I have to agree with Raffaele-san; I find this animation humorous and sweet, regardless of where the song came from; it's called a parody, c'mon. It's not supposed to be serious, and neither should you guys.
I feel a great amount of sympathy toward the Amigans, and while I have never used an Amiga or any like OS, I really hope that someday it will make a comeback as a competitive OS. The world needs more diversity among when it comes to OSes; it shouldn't just be Windows and Mac. How this is relevant here, I have no idea. Arguing about which is better is kinda stupid, as Amiga is, currently, something of a hobby system while Macs are more of a general use computer (I daresay...a personal computer). But I think you are both making too big a deal out of it. Just remember, we can argue all day about which OS, Mac, Amiga, Windows or Linux, is better...but there will always be bigger fish. Like Multics or VMS, which pwns all of them :P
Quote from: "Bella"Oy....I hate to accidentally fan a flamewar, but I really hope I can put this one out...
Sorry, did you had the impression of a flamewar? Because I didn't.
My mistake is problably the lack of any emoticons or some sort of way to convey the fact that I am, in fact, perfectly calm.
QuoteI have to agree with Raffaele-san; I find this animation humorous and sweet, regardless of where the song came from; it's called a parody, c'mon. It's not supposed to be serious, and neither should you guys.
Nah, I don't think it's a parody.
It's more like a music video.
As for it being humorous and sweet, that's your opinion and maybe even what Schwartz wanted it to be.
It's just that I don't think it's funny, and Raffaele didn't quite like that.
Yeah sure, my first comment about that was a little drastic, but heck... to abuse GLaDOS like this, she deserves better!
And yes, this was an obvious exageration on my part, it's meant to be sarcastic.
I don't quite understand why can't I be serious if I want to though, if I feel there's need to explain myself I'd rather do it in a cold but polite manner rather than trying to joke about it and giving the impression I'm mocking the other side.
QuoteI feel a great amount of sympathy toward the Amigans, and while I have never used an Amiga or any like OS, I really hope that someday it will make a comeback as a competitive OS. The world needs more diversity among when it comes to OSes; it shouldn't just be Windows and Mac.
Amiga is not just a OS, it's more like a whole package, kinda like the Mac is.
QuoteHow this is relevant here, I have no idea. Arguing about which is better is kinda stupid,
Which is NOT what we are doing here anyway.
Quoteas Amiga is, currently, something of a hobby system while Macs are more of a general use computer (I daresay...a personal computer).
Well, it used to be a good mainstream platform actually, but didn't play out quite well in the end.
It is kind of a hobby NOW but you know, there are plenty of people who use the Amiga as their everyday machine and I think it's wonderful but to actually believe that "we're comin' back" bullshit is just ridicolous.
QuoteBut I think you are both making too big a deal out of it.
But that's what I said in my previous post, so I'm not making a big deal out of it.
QuoteJust remember, we can argue all day about which OS, Mac, Amiga, Windows or Linux, is better...
Which is NOT what we are doing here.
Quotebut there will always be bigger fish. Like Multics or VMS, which pwns all of them :P
Yeah, sure.
Quote from: "iDarbert"
You even take the hassle of replying with a picture and... wait? Uffa?
Mica sei italiano per caso? o_O
Uffa si dice anche in inglese! Anche se con una sfumatura lievemente diversa dalla nostra...
(Uffa it is common in English also! Even if it is to be intended with a little different meaning...)
(http://www.sluggy.com/images/comics/971012b5.jpg)(http://www.sluggy.com/images/comics/971012b6.jpg)
E comunque siamo un po'distratti vero? ;012
(and perhaps we are a bit distract, isn't it?) ;012
[Vedi Immagine allegata]([See Attached Image])QuoteEDIT: Hey, I just noticed that quote of Jean-Louis Gassée on your signature, I completely forgot about that guy! To think he actually left a successfull company to found Be, Inc.
Though honestly looking at it Apple wasn't in a good place at the moment, that quote being from 96 which if I recall correctly wasn't one of their best years.
It is a statement of 1996 describing the situation of disperation in Apple when they saw Amiga in 1985.
Fortunately for Apple, the Commodore management was composed by total morons, who didn't even know what kind of computer they were selling.
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Ironically the Amiga was the one that didn't survive the competition, while Apple actually kept existing and still exists.
Hum... ;018
Better to make a little list:
Operating Systems:
- AmigaOS4.0
- MorphOS
- AROS (AROS Live!, VMWAROS, Native AROS, Aros hosted in Windows, Aros hosted in Linux, AROS for PPC computers)
Platforms:
- Amiga Walker
- AmigaONE
- Pegasos I & II
- Efika
- Sam440EP Samantha
AmigaOS & MorphOS loaders on Macintosh:
- Moana
- PearPC modified for MorphOS
Clones:
- Minimig
- Natami
- A1K
- Clone-A
Emulators:
- UAE (WinUAE, AmigaForever, E-UAE, UAE)
- Winfellow
Preinstalled systems for emulators:
- AmigaSys
- AmiKit
What a bonanza of choices, alternatives, and descendants...
Not that bad for a dead system... ;010 :smoke:
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Quote from: "Raffaele the Amigan"Quote from: "iDarbert"
You even take the hassle of replying with a picture and... wait? Uffa?
Mica sei italiano per caso? o_O
Uffa si dice anche in inglese! Anche se con una sfumatura lievemente diversa dalla nostra...
(Uffa it is common in English also! Even if it is to be intended with a little different meaning...)
Sinceramente dopo la Spia di TF2 che per dire "grazie" dice "prego" ho cominciato anche a fregarmene di come usano gli inglesi la nostra lingua XD
QuoteE comunque siamo un po'distratti vero? ;012
Di solito guardo il contenuto dei post, non chi li fa oO
QuoteEDIT: Hey, I just noticed that quote of Jean-Louis Gassée on your signature, I completely forgot about that guy! To think he actually left a successfull company to found Be, Inc.
Though honestly looking at it Apple wasn't in a good place at the moment, that quote being from 96 which if I recall correctly wasn't one of their best years.
QuoteIt is a statement of 1996 describing the situation of disperation in Apple when they saw Amiga in 1985.
Yeah I get it, but you are missing the point.
QuoteFortunately for Apple, the Commodore management was composed by total morons, who didn't even know what kind of computer they were selling.
Heh, same old song and dance.
Lots of brilliant products get ruined like this, the rest fail because people don't recognise how good they are.
A few actually manage to outbreak into the wild.
QuoteQuote
Ironically the Amiga was the one that didn't survive the competition, while Apple actually kept existing and still exists.
Hum... ;018
Better to make a little list:
*long list*
Not that bad for a dead system... ;010 :smoke:
So? What's the point? That it has a faithful legacy?
That it does still exist as a platform? Yep, already said that (you can buy one at a convention, you can order a Pegasus online, Amiga is actually releasing new machines from time to time).
But you should try to interpret what I post correctly instead of releasing a flurry of "omg we're not dead amiga ftw" stuff, because if you actually read it correctly you'll see I refer to the Amia not surviving as a commercial product. (as many other products from other companies did)
Are you going to go ahead and deny that the Amiga did not kept selling enought to be a succesfull consumer electronics product (without that meaning it's bad, just that it didn't "make it")?
Because if that's what you want we can close this argument (which happens to be seen as a flame anyway) immediately.
You think people who hate the Amiga are stupid and annoying? Imagine how fun it is to be treated as such while you are not.
EDIT: By the way, I'm curious... what web browser do you use on your Amiga?
Quote from: "iDarbert"
QuoteIt is a statement of 1996 describing the situation of disperation in Apple when they saw Amiga in 1985.
Yeah I get it, but you are missing the point.
Well, to be honest... What part of "everyone was scared as hell" is not clear to you?
Quote
So? What's the point? That it has a faithful legacy?
That it does still exist as a platform? Yep, already said that (you can buy one at a convention, you can order a Pegasus online, Amiga is actually releasing new machines from time to time).
But you should try to interpret what I post correctly instead of releasing a flurry of "omg we're not dead amiga ftw" stuff, because if you actually read it correctly you'll see I refer to the Amia not surviving as a commercial product. (as many other products from other companies did)
Anything you can buy or sell IN the market IS IN the market, not OUTSIDE the market...
Maybe Amiga a very insignificant little niche of interested people, but we do not care...
Modern world is actually a world made of infinite niches. There are big ones, and little ones, and TIIINY ones.
To make a parallel (non an example, just a parallel)... we who are here in OS-TAN Collection are a part of the niche of people interested in OSTANs... world outside, does not even care OSTANs exist, and even our existence as fanatics could be interpreted as "odd", or "strange".
So we Amigans continue our direction without being embarassed of external world.
We need just some hardware, enough peripherals for input/output, a decent internet connection, and some software covering actual file standards, such as HTML, JPEG, PDF, AIFF, MP3, FLV, VOB, DOC, etc...
If someone would join us, then he/she he is welcome ;hi .
If someone would leave, he/she is saluted. ;hi
Quote
Are you going to go ahead and deny that the Amiga did not kept selling enought to be a succesfull consumer electronics product (without that meaning it's bad, just that it didn't "make it")?
Because if that's what you want we can close this argument (which happens to be seen as a flame anyway) immediately.
No any problem... It is a very known situation in our community, and an interesting soap opera, which sometimes hits newspapers, and news sites online.
Actual Amiga Inc. management never launched Amiga as consumer electonic product. It was not even interested in the Operating System, Infact Amiga Inc. subcontracted Hardware and O.S. to two different firms, leaving them free to commercialize it.
In the meanwhile they launched another product called Amiga Anywhere which has nothing in common with Amiga, except the name. It is a competitor to Java. But it was poorly marketed. And it was not free as Java.
When the AmigaOS 4.0 started selling, Amiga Inc. management blocked any activity by claiming back the intellectual properties of the OS.
There is actually a court trial in USA opposing Amiga Inc. owner of the I.P. and trademarks, and Hyperion which manufactured AmigaOS 4.0.
-----
WARNING!
Here that follows it is just RUMORS and to be intended just as like rumors...
-----
Rumors said that Amiga Inc. desires no any success in selling products, because it is a cover to avoid taxes.
If you want to know more then register any Amiga Forum, and stay tuned for rumors and private messages.
Ask me more news in private, if you want to know more, I do not want to be sued in a court trial by USA judges. ;014
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You think people who hate the Amiga are stupid and annoying? Imagine how fun it is to be treated as such while you are not.
Annoying? Only if they attacked Amiga without reason, or being malicious.
People pointing Amiga flaws, are welcome if they make critics with honesty and sympathy, else if they want to starting flamewars or trolling they are not even considered.
Quote
EDIT: By the way, I'm curious... what web browser do you use on your Amiga?
Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Internet_and_communications_software
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Internet_and_communications_software#World_Wide_Web
But I strongy doubt that names of Amiga software gives you any clues... You culture in software is firmly tied with names of Big Boss & Worldwide Known Software ;011
(obviously I did not intend to offend you here. It is just a matter of facts that people worldwide consider only "THE NAME"(TM)...
If the name of the software is not tied to a famous BRAND, then the software is considered not good or not existing.
Think for example the fact that people worldwide consider Linux no good because it does not run a software named Office,
MICROSOFT OFFICE... to be precise... But Linux just runs some strange unknown software called
OPEN Office... ;013 ;014 )
OK, there's no point in arguing with you. Even answering politely doesn't prevent you from being so arrogant and you don't even try to understand what one actually means, so have fun replying to things I've never said.
I actually wrote answers for all that but you know what? You would think I'm a moron anyway, so why should I bother trying to change your mind? Considering your other contributions to this forum it's probably for the best, it was my mistake to answer you on the first place.
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lawl
Hope you guys didn't mind the show ;020
QuoteHope you guys didn't mind the show
Well, I'll say...
7/10.
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"QuoteHope you guys didn't mind the show
Well, I'll say...
7/10.
So is it succesfull or unsuccessful troll?
discuss.
also pic not related
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Don't worry, you did a good job.
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Don't worry, you did a good job.
saged and reported.
Oh, wait.
OSHI-
PARTY V&!
alright, seems both of you hopped off the path and wandered off into the wild blue yonder back there somewhere. Please turn around and attempt to find the path again...
...then again dont. Since before it was just arguing back and forth over the same trivial stuff.
I've been watching this thread carefully as the arguments were steering dangerously close to the flamewar zone.
But I'll also take this time to say that I have watched the "Still Alive" animation and I think it is pretty funny and the animation was nicely done. Thought the song was cool too.
Quote from: "Aurora Borealis"I've been watching this thread carefully as the arguments were steering dangerously close to the flamewar zone.
I don't think it's a problem anymore, I won't reply any further.
QuoteBut I'll also take this time to say that I have watched the "Still Alive" animation and I think it is pretty funny and the animation was nicely done. Thought the song was cool too.
The song is amazing, it's more amazing if you play the game before you hear it though.
QuoteI've been watching this thread carefully as the arguments were steering dangerously close to the flamewar zone.
That's why I went in to loosen it up a bit. I saw that it was getting a bit too /b/ at the end, and you guys got in before I got to call it quits. But that's the way it goes, MODS=MODS and so on, haha.
Still Alive...?
I need to learn how to play that thing. Rawr.
Quote from: "CaptBrenden"alright, seems both of you hopped off the path and wandered off into the wild blue yonder back there somewhere. Please turn around and attempt to find the path again...
...then again dont. Since before it was just arguing back and forth over the same trivial stuff.
Honestly I didn't intend to make it a flamewar, neither I suspected it could become one when I first calmly replied. I don't understand why I'm considered equally guilty.
If discussing equals flaming then OK, I will avoid that in the future.
QuoteThat's why I went in to loosen it up a bit. I saw that it was getting a bit too /b/ at the end, and you guys got in before I got to call it quits. But that's the way it goes, MODS=MODS and so on, haha.
Actually I let it go the second I saw that reply, it had gotten way too pointless.
The mods (and you) arrived AFTER I stepped back.
And yes I know you are joking but frankly I don't know if I'm able to communicate anymore, seems to me that nobody else noticed I tried to be as polite as possible.
I understand that the almost-flamewar was not intentional or expected at all. I am not completely sure how it happened but some things (and the way they were said) were probably taken the wrong way on multiple occasions. (hopefully no offense to anyone)
At least this possible flamewar was ended in a truce before either mod needed to use the heavy artillery!
TL;DR - Shit sux, go away, RAGE, etc.
Letting this sleep, then.
Quote from: "Aurora Borealis"At least this possible flamewar was ended in a truce before either mod needed to use the heavy artillery!
Quotetruce before either mod needed to use the heavy artillery!
Quoteheavy artillery!
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QuoteITT: YOU JUST
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I lol'd, seriously XD
Yay! Flamewar averted!
Quote from: "iDarbert"OK, there's no point in arguing with you. Even answering politely doesn't prevent you from being so arrogant and you don't even try to understand what one actually means, so have fun replying to things I've never said.
Arrogant? Au contraire.
You perceived me as arrogant, just because you are reading written words, and not listening spoken words, so you can't hear the sound and the intonation in it.
Internet written communications often suffer of this joke...
Do you said I did not understand what you want to mean?
Then please would you be so kind to explain better your statements?
I perceived it as an attack (with some sarcasm in the end, when you made some innuendo about the existence of some Amiga browsers) so I was enough kind to answer you the more polite I could, indicating you the actual situation and the software we have.
Didn't seem to me to being off-topic.
I just answered exactly the things you said.
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I actually wrote answers for all that but you know what? You would think I'm a moron anyway, so why should I bother trying to change your mind? Considering your other contributions to this forum it's probably for the best, it was my mistake to answer you on the first place.
Now things got complicated...
These lines you wrote, really are very hard for me to understand... Can you repeat it in italian? So maybe I can follow your thoughts...
This passage it is the worst to understand...
Quoteso why should I bother trying to change your mind?
I read it and read it again and seems strange to me either in english, or translating it in italian...
Because if you start a discussion trying to evangelize someone... Or even trying to change someone else's mind on the internet, then you started a discussion with the wrong footstep...
If you believe you started this discussion with the precise intent to change with a sort of ease my apprecciation in my platform of reference, that is based upon firm arguments, and upon a precise choice of reason, then you started this discussion with some kind of ingenuity and childish behaviour. Don't you think so?
But I could be wrong about the sense of your statements, and it could be just a wrong impression of mine about your behaviour...
If you have some doubts, or believe I am joking with you then contact me in private messages, so we can start a stream of consciousness in our native language and avoid misunderstandings.
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LOST??? o_o
What a lame TV Serial and game... ;014
No seriously, this LOST serial never raised in me any appeal (and I am a person who likes science fiction)...
Aaaw, please.
*flicks cigarrette*
Is this a troll...?
I hope so, because I fear for the other alternative. O_o
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Is this a troll...?
I hope so, because I fear for the other alternative. O_o
Hm? Sorry I didn't quite understand, was it something I said?
*Shuffles in...*
QuoteLOST???
What a lame TV Serial and game...
No seriously, this LOST serial never raised in me any appeal (and I am a person who likes science fiction)...
Waaaaaahh! You just broke a Lostie's heart here :P
No really, it is one of those show that's impossible to understand if you don't watch from the beginning of the season, or even the series, and difficult to like if you can't suspend your sense of reality.
That said, I do think that it's one of those few perfect shows for me ;)
*Shuffles out*
QuoteHm? Sorry I didn't quite understand, was it something I said?
Oh, sorry, no. I forgot quoting Rafa there, that's what I was talking about.
And like, Bella-san, don't feed the trolls please... ^-^;
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"QuoteHm? Sorry I didn't quite understand, was it something I said?
Oh, sorry, no. I forgot quoting Rafa there, that's what I was talking about.
Oh, no problem :D
Quote from: "iDarbert"Aaaw, please.
*flicks cigarrette*
Forgive me, but if this is your attitude, and you refuse to explain yourself, you just revealed you are nothing than a troll.
I answered your questions, but as a counter-answer you claim me of arrogance, pretending you want to change my mind (???) ;014 , and continued attacking me without explain why all this hate.
Unfortunately I lost my precious time with you believing I could have a civil discussion, and believing you were a polite and open minded person capable to sustain such a discussion without prejudices.
But seems clear now that you prefer your cigarettes rather than continuing a civil discussion, this shows you are full of prejudices and presumptuousness.
So this is my decision:
I will not bother you anymore and I hope sincerely that you will not bother me anymore, or commenting my threads.
My future attitude regarding you will be oriented to a complete ignoring that you exist. That's all.
[It is intended that if you will start threads attacking without reason my platform of choice, then you will receive proper replies.]
Best regards,
Raffaele
Cheers.
*flicks cigarrette*
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Let's do a quick overview of this thread, shall we? It all began when I said I didn't like the video (not on the premise that I don't like Amiga but because it abused GLaDOS and Still Alive -
which by the way was meant to some kind of joke, a sarcastic remark), and what you understood is that I dislike Amiga (despite my attempts to clarify I don't), and overiterated the fact that you don't care that I don't like it.
I asked you out of pure curiosity what browser you use and you understood I was taunting with "AH AH THERE'S NO SOFTWARE FOR AMIGA!" (you clearly said that in a reply in wich you defined it as sarcasm).
I pointed out that despite the fact that the platform still exists it was not the success it could have been and you understood I was yet again implying it failed because it sucked (you stressed the fact that it's a niche with a lot of faithful users, which implies you believe I don't think it's no good).
So on this basis I am just a troll, interesting theory. I guess that by trolling you mean refusing to further discuss with someone who has proven not to listen to you then yes, I am a troll and I'm proud of it.
I enjoy debates and such as an interesting way to exchange opinions but this is not discussing, you make no effort to understand me at all and on top of that you accuse me to do the same while so I'm not "discussing" any further.
Coward? Maybe, but I'd rather use MY "precious time" doing something else.
You started this whole mess, as it began with me not enjoying the video, you acting like it was hurting your feelings and somehow it also became some kind of "you hate Amiga and you are wrong" kind of discussion, with you lecturing me on how Amiga is not dead and I'm an ignorant for not knowing anothing other than worldwide known software.
By the way since you asked me twice (and I don't want to be rude by ignoring a sincere question) by "changing your mind" I don't mean "I'm trying to make you understand Amiga sucks and I failed", I meant "I'm trying to make you understand I'm not against Amiga, this is all a misunderstanding on your part".
So there it is, I defended myself against these (in my opinion) injust accusations and I will grant your wish and ignore you from now on if that's what you really want.
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You can skip the etiquette monsieur (just playing the role of the Spy here), it doesn't really helps making you polite after you called me a troll.
To the rest of the community: I apologise for answering him once more thus keeping the flames alive but being accused like this is just ridicolous, I had to reply to at least a bunch of this accusations.
I understand this forum is no place for this kind of things, and I'll desist from falling into such situations once again. I just hope you understand my need to answer one last time.
ITT: Cancer? On my /osc/? Am I becoming an oldfag already?
Also, TL;DR of above post: NOBODY HATES YOU, NOBODY THINK YOUR OPERATIVE SYSTEM SUCKS, ETC. (unless, of course, you use Vista or a Mac, but let's not get into that), NOBODY UNDERSTANDS EACH OTHER. Fail thread is full of fail, let's not let it spill over to the rest of the forums, shall we?
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"ITT: Cancer? On my /osc/? Am I becoming an oldfag already?
Also, TL;DR of above post: NOBODY HATES YOU, NOBODY THINK YOUR OPERATIVE SYSTEM SUCKS, ETC. (unless, of course, you use Vista or a Mac, but let's not get into that), NOBODY UNDERSTANDS EACH OTHER. Fail thread is full of fail, let's not let it spill over to the rest of the forums, shall we?
Heh, sorry 'bout that but I had to reply one last time, I really had to.
Thanks for summing it up by the way,
My appreciation, amigo..
So the conflict really was from a series of misunderstandings. Thank you for clarifying everything, iDarbert. I hope that message of yours will allow the conflict between you and Raffaele to be resolved for the better.
Given how much conflict there is in this thread, should it stay open (in case there are others that really want to discuss the original topic)?
Quote from: "Aurora Borealis"So the conflict really was from a series of misunderstandings. Thank you for clarifying everything, iDarbert. I hope that message of yours will allow the conflict between you and Raffaele to be resolved for the better.
I'm not too positive on this but we'll see.
QuoteGiven how much conflict there is in this thread, should it stay open (in case there are others that really want to discuss the original topic)?
Closing it now would prevent Raffaele from "defending" himself (I don't really want this to shift to Private Messages) so personally I wouldn't do it but you are the moderator so I'll have to leave that decision up to you.
Right now I have no wish to discuss with him either personally or in this thread so whatever happens there will not be anymore drama in this thread.
Actually, you two should have stopped "Defending yourselves" when we first said knock it off. I relize that you may have been "calm" this whole time, but I think common sence should have made you relaize your comments were not being taken in a good light and you should have cut your losses then instead of "clearifying" them and making it worse. The "disscussion" bearly seemed civil to me and others watching, and was escelating with each "defending" post.
Anyhow, Im off on a tangent there. Let me get across the point Im trying to make:
IF EITHER of you continue this dissagreement in public further, hammers will come down. This has gone beyond civil discussion as far as im concerned and is detramental to the atmosphere of the forum. Civil discussions dont consist of personal attacks and melicious sarcasum.
For cripes sake, just cus someone doesnt like what you like, dont get freaking butt hurt and offended by it. Fuck.
Quote from: "iDarbert"Cheers.
*flicks cigarrette*
Let's do a quick overview of this thread, shall we? It all began when I said I didn't like the video (not on the premise that I don't like Amiga but because it abused GLaDOS and Still Alive - which by the way was meant to some kind of joke, a sarcastic remark),
I hope we both misunderstood, but seems to me that you exagerated right now...
To be honest, I didn't see any joke in your words...
What I told you?
I told you to not take this video seriously... It was just a joke not an abuse, but you answered you did not see any humor in it...
I did not see a relaxed person here answering a joke, I saw just a person offended that someone abused some games (famous or obscure games, I do not care)...
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and what you understood is that I dislike Amiga (despite my attempts to clarify I don't), and overiterated the fact that you don't care that I don't like it.
I do not care if you don't like it or not, I just said that we are still alive, but you insisted, and being malicious...
Here:
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Well, it used to be a good mainstream platform actually, but didn't play out quite well in the end.
It is kind of a hobby NOW but you know, there are plenty of people who use the Amiga as their everyday machine and I think it's wonderful but to actually believe that "we're comin' back" bullshit is just ridicolous.
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I asked you out of pure curiosity what browser you use and you understood I was taunting with "AH AH THERE'S NO SOFTWARE FOR AMIGA!" (you clearly said that in a reply in wich you defined it as sarcasm).
So it seemed... as you pointed it in an edit...
And you do not asked me what browser I am using, but what I am using just on Amiga.
QuoteEDIT: By the way, I'm curious... what web browser do you use on your Amiga?
As being written after that "bullshit" it could be interpreted as being malicious...
"Do you have any browser on Amiga???" "are you enough advanced?"
If you did not wrote that "bullshit" some lines before, then maybe I could had interpreted your words in a more polite sense...
And I shown you we have some different browsers, but honestly saying that the names of these software could gives you no clues, as completely unknown to you...
I just pointed the software we have, any person uses the software he wants.
I hope I was enough honest.
And to be precise I do not like to answer what software I use on any platform, I just indicated what softwae we use in general...
But if you like so badly to know it, I prefer to use on my Pegasos machine these two: "AWeb" and "Sputnik" amongst any other Amiga software.
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I pointed out that despite the fact that the platform still exists it was not the success it could have been and you understood I was yet again implying it failed because it sucked (you stressed the fact that it's a niche with a lot of faithful users, which implies you believe I don't think it's no good).
Maybe if you had measured your words, i had not misinterpreted you.
"bullshit" is a very strong word in english, more and more than italian, and I got some prevention when I spotted it...
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You started this whole mess, as it began with me not enjoying the video, you acting like it was hurting your feelings and somehow it also became some kind of "you hate Amiga and you are wrong" kind of discussion, with you lecturing me on how Amiga is not dead and I'm an ignorant for not knowing anothing other than worldwide known software.
I said just it is an humor video, and the invite was to make a smile, rather than claiming abusing musics of Role Playing Games...
QuoteBy the way since you asked me twice (and I don't want to be rude by ignoring a sincere question) by "changing your mind" I don't mean "I'm trying to make you understand Amiga sucks and I failed", I meant "I'm trying to make you understand I'm not against Amiga, this is all a misunderstanding on your part".
So why you had not explained it in your previous comment, instead of simply saying you were "flicking cigaRettes"?
Now how I could consider you???
Nice try, but too late...??? ;018
Raff... Maybe you missunderstood me.. but what I said applied to you as well. STAND THE FUCK BY. I dont feel like playing these games with you two.
Quote from: "CaptBrenden"I dont feel like playing these games with you two.
Neither do I.
Yep, it's definitely malignant. Lazors charged and at the ready.
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Yep, it's definitely malignant. Lazors charged and at the ready.
"NOEZ I WUNT 2 LIV!!"
So, apparently, Cancer is the cure for Cancer. Who would've thought that.
And please don't start this again, because Capslock ain't as easy-going as I am (also has the b&!hammer), and I'm off now. So for your own good...
SAGE GOES IN EMAIL FIELD (http://mailto.sage)
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"So, apparently, Cancer is the cure for Cancer. Who would've thought that.
More like misdiagnosed cancer, trust me.
QuoteAnd please don't start this again, because Capslock ain't as easy-going as I am (also has the b&!hammer), and I'm off now. So for your own good...
No wish to do so.
QuoteSAGE GOES IN EMAIL FIELD (http://mailto.sage)
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Let's have cake instead! It's so delicious and moist.
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Now you guys are off topic :P GOBK2TOPIKLSSTRD
Quote from: "CaptBrenden"Now you guys are off topic :P GOBK2TOPIKLSSTRD
Wasn't the topic about Still Alive?
GLaDOS in on topic.
it was about the video more or less. If your not going to discuss the video itself, go to a general games talk thread or start a thread for portal/valve disscussion
Quote from: "CaptBrenden"it was about the video more or less. If your not going to discuss the video itself, go to a general games talk thread or start a thread for portal/valve disscussion
Fine.
D'aww. I was just about to post up some GLaDOS-tan imagespam. Now you bwoke it.
Oh well. OFF TO RANDOM IMAGE THREAD'D~
Or a Portal/valve thread. I normaly dont support people creating smaller threads for individual games, but Im sure there is enough portal/halflife fans and players here to warrent its own thread.
I'm not one, though.
And for the last damn time, SAGE GROWS IN EVERY FIELD.[/color][/size].
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/9/9f/Sage_field.jpg)
Quote from: "CaptBrenden"Raff... Maybe you missunderstood me.. but what I said applied to you as well. STAND THE f*** BY. I dont feel like playing these games with you two.
Ahem... Sorry I continued the so called flamewar... But on friday I could not see your post, as in the same moment you made your post, I were in the edit page writing my comment...
And I spotted your CEASE ALL FLAMES post only when I submitted mine... ;140