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Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: coldReactive on September 02, 2009, 10:45:53 PM
Since a day or two ago, I haven't been able to activate my copy of Adobe Flash CS3 Pro Educational Edition. So guess what this means?

1. I can no longer color drawings the way I used to.
2. I no longer need windows.

Le gasp!
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: NejinOniwa on September 03, 2009, 04:35:35 PM
Goncratulations, my dear. -w-
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Post by: Chocofreak13 on September 03, 2009, 07:12:22 PM
my friend russell would be happy for you. :3

and i say: good for you for finding an os-partner that you're happy with. :3
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: coldReactive on September 04, 2009, 03:03:43 PM
Now to wait for Runes of Magic to flawlessly work in Wine.

The only Windows machine I have now is my netbook (Just upgraded its RAM to 2 GB), and it's staying like that for a while, until ReactOS becomes stable.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Chocofreak13 on September 05, 2009, 11:43:30 AM
:3 well, congrats.
oh, and, out of curiosity, what windows?
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Post by: IanDanKilmaster on September 05, 2009, 01:16:58 PM
Good on ya ^^b.

According the AppDB@WineHQ, the closed-beta version of Runes of Magic has a Gold rating (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8157) (which is like next to perfect).  I just got Warlords Battlecry III to work excellently on my old setup in Wine, so I'm very happy.  I just wish MechCommander 2 worked as well, I really want to play that.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: coldReactive on September 07, 2009, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: "Chocofreak13":3 well, congrats.
oh, and, out of curiosity, what windows?

Windows XP Home
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Vash342 on October 13, 2009, 09:50:31 PM
I recently went Linux Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

I like the freedom, but find the interfaces confusing and hard to work with compared to windows.  

Blow my socks off though, linux mint is jesus in OS'.  Everything is installed for drivers( I HATE YOU WINDOWS) and my wireless connections for some odd reason ran better, and had a much stronger signal.  Its like going to DSL from AOL.  You wonder why the world ever produced something like that.
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Post by: Sora on October 14, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
Apparently Linux is to Mac what Mac is to Linux.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 14, 2009, 07:36:26 AM
Apparently, Mac is just plain sucky.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: coldReactive on October 14, 2009, 09:37:07 AM
Well, I'm back on Windows, sadly. I'm going to go back to linux some day though, not now.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 14, 2009, 05:31:39 PM
We all say that, don't we -w-
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Vash342 on October 16, 2009, 10:07:12 PM
Linux pendrive is also a saviour.  XP USB Bootable however is impossible to make, and it isn't worth it unless you need it.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: NejinOniwa on October 17, 2009, 06:31:33 AM
Pen-XP?

That's a frightening concept. >_>
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Vash342 on October 17, 2009, 05:40:32 PM
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"Pen-XP?

That's a frightening concept. >_>

I took a weeks worthy of time to create it to find out, its worthless unless something doesn't work in linux.

Oh, and definitely have USB 2.0 when you plug it into something...
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Sora on October 17, 2009, 05:45:55 PM
You actually created a USB bootable version of XP?
Wow.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: coldReactive on October 18, 2009, 04:00:41 PM
Well, I'm going back to linux soon, in a week and a few days, when Ubuntu 9.10 comes out, I'll be testing Kubuntu seeing if it can install my nvidia drivers via jockey.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Vash342 on October 18, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
Quote from: "Sora"You actually created a USB bootable version of XP?
Wow.

Shamefully I answer yes.
I'm going to go cry like a beaten stepchild with breathing problems in that corner over there.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Alex S on October 18, 2009, 07:02:43 PM
That's actually quite impressive.  I mean, I've got a friend who's written his own USB drivers for his TI-84+ calculator, but bootable XP on a flash drive? That's something I want to see.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Vash342 on October 18, 2009, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: "Alex S"That's actually quite impressive.  I mean, I've got a friend who's written his own USB drivers for his TI-84+ calculator, but bootable XP on a flash drive? That's something I want to see.

Very narrow work space let me tell you.
I recommend anywhere from a 2 GB to a 512 MB flash drive.
Other than that I used HP's Flash Drive Format tool, and PE Builder to create the XP image I wanted to use. If I remember correctly you need the three system files from your Main drive, usually C:\.  Install it all through built in DOS and boom. Theoretically it should work.

Keep in mind all of the above is no method to the madness, so don't blame me if it doesn't work.  If you want just madness, google it and you will most likely come up with something very similar.

I'm not promising anybody that this works and proceed at your own risk.
After all, it is Windows.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Sora on October 18, 2009, 07:28:44 PM
Vash 342 must be a very good programmer.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Vash342 on October 18, 2009, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: "Sora"Vash 342 must be a very good programmer.

ROFL, I just pay attention.

If you know what you want to do, then all you have to do is either research it or find someone else to do it for you.

All I did was found that FAT32 has some troubles booting over USB on XP so back to FAT16 because that's floppy media format.  Floppy boot was all the rage about ten years ago.

Then I found a tool to do that for me, AKA HP USB disk format.

Then I found a way to chop off everything off the XP install disc to make it small enough.  Pe builder.

Useful tool trust me.

If you downgrade from Vista and have SATA, most every american release of XP Pro didn't come with SATA controller drivers.  Took me a month to figure this one out.  Then I used Pe builder to slipstream the SATA controllers into an install.  Works like a charm now.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Sora on October 18, 2009, 11:38:26 PM
OS's used to be small enough to fit on a floppy drive? Scary.

Added after 2 minutes:

So why did you make a USB bootable version of XP anyway?
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: coldReactive on October 18, 2009, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: "Sora"OS's used to be small enough to fit on a floppy drive? Scary.

USED to be?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Linux#Floppy_disk_distributions
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Sora on October 19, 2009, 12:49:42 AM
That's mainly server OS's though.
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Post by: NejinOniwa on October 19, 2009, 07:03:49 AM
He did it because of SCIENCE.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Vash342 on October 19, 2009, 05:51:05 PM
Science is starting to see a very bleak future then...
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Alex S on October 19, 2009, 05:54:47 PM
Quote from: "Sora"So why did you make a USB bootable version of XP anyway?

My guess: Because he could.

Also, having portable XP could be useful if it isn't too annoying to use, because it can address other Windows systems as Windows systems for diagnostic purposes.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Sora on October 20, 2009, 02:58:49 AM
But aren't most windows systems fundamentally different?
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Vash342 on October 20, 2009, 07:33:40 PM
Quote from: "Sora"OS's used to be small enough to fit on a floppy drive? Scary.

DOS 6.1 was 3 floppy's

3.1 was 6 I think

95 emergency boot was 1

98 was 16 Floppys, IF you didn't get the brand new limited edition sacred technology of CD-ROM

I have all of these except 98.
Ironically, the DOS floppies I have are the Harley Davidson Floppies, ha ha ha



QuoteBut aren't most windows systems fundamentally different?

9x series was very similar.
2K and XP are extremely similar, most drivers are the same between the two.  Vista and 7 i'm not entirely sure, but I would assume they are because 7 is Vista without the suck attached to it.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Alex S on October 20, 2009, 10:22:57 PM
To Sora:
9x Series: 95, 98, ME.
DOS-based OS that could read and write to FAT 16 and FAT 32 drives. Could not map NTFS drives, therefore only useful for rpair to other DOS-based OS.

NT Series: NT4, 2000, XP, Vista, 7(?)
NT Kernel-based OS that can read and write to FAT 16, FAT 32 and NTFS, and EXT2 with certain drivers. More useful for Windows repair because they can read and therefore identify all versions of Windows. (Not sure if XP recognizes Vista and 7 though.)

Vista is basically a suckified XP though...
And you could make a recovery floppy for ME also, and I think XP somehow.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Sora on October 21, 2009, 01:34:51 AM
Okay.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: coldReactive on October 21, 2009, 07:17:18 AM
Quote from: "Alex S"And you could make a recovery floppy for ME also, and I think XP somehow.

XP and 2000 make a disk known as a boot floppy that allows you to boot and repair stuff (but not your OS, filesystem, etc. that has to be repaired through the WinXP/2000 setup CD.) The boot floppy actually, what it does is that it loads generic CD-ROM Drivers so that you can load your precious Setup CD somehow. The boot floppy cannot use fdisk I believe (even though it should)
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Vash342 on October 23, 2009, 05:39:14 PM
Quote from: "coldReactive"
XP and 2000 make a disk known as a boot floppy that allows you to boot and repair stuff (but not your OS, filesystem, etc. that has to be repaired through the WinXP/2000 setup CD.) The boot floppy actually, what it does is that it loads generic CD-ROM Drivers so that you can load your precious Setup CD somehow. The boot floppy cannot use fdisk I believe (even though it should)

This is honestly why I keep DOS floppies around still.
Make a quick virtual machine, install DOS and copy autoexec.bat, MSDOS.sys, and System.sys to a floppy.
It fits perfectly and you now have a fully functional bootable floppy.

I find it nice to use because the winXP disc recovery console never works for me.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: xxwolfwoodxx1 on April 08, 2010, 04:16:39 PM
congrats, enjoy your zooming because I will enjoy mine too
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Sora on April 08, 2010, 06:13:27 PM
"Zooming?"
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Bella on April 11, 2010, 06:24:20 PM
Right now I'm running Puppy Linux (liveCD) on a crap-tastic HP laptop whose system specs are too poor to run XP well. I can't believe it, Puppy picked up on the wireless network automatically!

Well, it looks like I know what my summer/travel computer and OS is going to be... and here I thought I might have to go 3+ months sans reliable computer.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: NejinOniwa on April 11, 2010, 11:16:37 PM
The puppy is the trustiest tool ever created by nerdkind...use it with great affection. <3
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Bella on April 13, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
THANX NERDKIND. >:3

I didn't expect that it would work with the wireless card out-of-the-box-- Ubuntu didn't even do that. :<
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Alex_Reetz on April 13, 2010, 10:50:59 PM
My opinion,  linux feels cheap(The gui and icons.) and more geared for people who want complete control of everything on there os....but it seems to complected. The whole 'Support' thing is wishy-washy and being a gamer, It just causes more problems then good. linux is good for the anti-establishment, server, geek and poor users, but as far as gaming and 'basic' support, it leaves a lot to be desired.

I plan on using ubuntu, but I see myself being a windows users until internet 2 comes out and causes a big brother effect on the interweb.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Sora on April 14, 2010, 02:02:31 AM
Even whylinuxisbetter.org admits that you should stick with windows if you're a gamer.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Chocofreak13 on April 14, 2010, 09:22:01 AM
let's see:
family computer runs vista *barfs*
my personal computer is running xp, but i'm trying to upgrade it to 7/ubuntu (or maybe mint).

which brings me to this question:

DOES ANYONE HAVE AN .ISO OF WINDOWS 7. CAN SOMEONE TORRENT IT FOR ME? SEND IT? PLEASE???

ugh, i'm going out of my mind here! both the people who waved a disk in my face, wel, one's in south carolina on vacation right now and the other just went back to SWEDEN. >:[

it's getting frusterating cause i don't want to get attached to xp but i can't upgrade yet. i need that computer for schoolwork but i don't want to install anything cause it's all going to get wiped anyway. :[
help?
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: PizzaDrill on April 14, 2010, 01:59:36 PM
Quote from: "Chocofreak13"let's see:
family computer runs vista *barfs*
my personal computer is running xp, but i'm trying to upgrade it to 7/ubuntu (or maybe mint).

which brings me to this question:

DOES ANYONE HAVE AN .ISO OF WINDOWS 7. CAN SOMEONE TORRENT IT FOR ME? SEND IT? PLEASE???

ugh, i'm going out of my mind here! both the people who waved a disk in my face, wel, one's in south carolina on vacation right now and the other just went back to SWEDEN. >:[

it's getting frusterating cause i don't want to get attached to xp but i can't upgrade yet. i need that computer for schoolwork but i don't want to install anything cause it's all going to get wiped anyway. :[
help?

I have an ISO of the RTM somewhere I think. Maybe a couple betas too. I don't have any activation patches though.
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Post by: Chocofreak13 on April 14, 2010, 08:10:10 PM
my friend said he put it in the mail....so now i just gotta wait a few days.....^^;
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Post by: NejinOniwa on April 15, 2010, 04:29:18 PM
Sorry 'bout that one...-w-;

Also, reminder: Unless shit is actually BROKEN, you don't NEED to wipe it. Just install it over and remove the XP and you'll be AwwwwRIGHT...


Oh: and that reminds me, my 7 is the Ultimate x64 version, which I think might've been a bit too much for your hardware to handle anyway... >_>
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Post by: Chocofreak13 on April 15, 2010, 06:08:47 PM
i think 32 bit will be best, but what arrives in the mail arrives in the mail.

oh yea, apparently i get to make a new -tan......OF MYSELF! see, my friend took ubuntu, and tweaked it heavily (removes a fukton, added some stuff) and dubbed it KariOS.

personally i think ChocOS has a better ring to it.... ^^
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Bella on April 15, 2010, 07:00:37 PM
Quote from: "Alex_Reetz"My opinion,  linux feels cheap(The gui and icons.) and more geared for people who want complete control of everything on there os....but it seems to complected. The whole 'Support' thing is wishy-washy and being a gamer, It just causes more problems then good. linux is good for the anti-establishment, server, geek and poor users, but as far as gaming and 'basic' support, it leaves a lot to be desired.

I plan on using ubuntu, but I see myself being a windows users until internet 2 comes out and causes a big brother effect on the interweb.

Who on earth chooses an OS based of looks, though? I'd rather have a stable, well-built OS that has a "crappy" GUI-- or no GUI at all-- over an astonishingly pretty piece of garbage any day.

FYI, because Linux is open source, you can make it look like anything you want-- if you prefer Aqua, like I do...
http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=219520
...or VIsta's interface...
(http://www.techiequest.com/pic/vixta-screenshot.jpg)
There are more than enough themes, icon packages and desktop environments to choose from to make it look however you want.

Linux systems have given me a lot less grief than Windows systems over the years. Ubuntu and Puppy Linux both picked up on wireless networks in just a few clicks (maybe a few more for the former), I've never witnessed a kernel panic/crash under it (I've had one with OSX so far) and never had any hardware compatibility issues. Not even with peripherals like scanners and printers. Software's never been an issue, probably because I used FOSS software almost exclusively whether I'm using WIdnows, OSX or Linux. I do agree that Windows is the only OS for a gamer-- but that's the game development community's fault. >.>

The strength of Linux, if you ask me, is the ability to run on sparse hardware and portability (like its Unix ancestors). Yes, the developers aren't quite as good at adapting/marketing Linux to a home userbase as they could be, but Canonical seems to be trying their best.

PS, I'm a rather poor, anti-establishment geek (anti-establishment = anti-Microsoft). I'm not particularly attached to Linux (probably more of an OSX and OpenVMS proponent at the moment) but I gotta give credit where credit is due. [/img]
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Post by: Chocofreak13 on April 16, 2010, 09:01:48 AM
every user has a preference. i'm more a fan of linux and windows than mac, personally (iz kind of confusing, and hard to get a *coughfreecough* copy of).

this is the sort of thing we'd have to gather everyone together and have a formal debate over or something.
my vote, everyone pick what they like best. it's like religion; everyone has their preference, and no one should force their beliefs on another.
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Post by: NejinOniwa on April 16, 2010, 10:36:56 AM
Yep, it's like religion, everything sucks and it should all just BURN IN THUNDERRRRRRRRR and wait patiently until *SPOILER'D*
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Chocofreak13 on April 18, 2010, 08:08:40 AM
now i'm just waiting for you to create THORLINUX xD

ya think thor will LIGHTNINGWTF all'uf us in 2012? .___.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Alex_Reetz on April 18, 2010, 10:24:52 PM
I been a window's nazi since i was 7(1997) mostly because my dad worked at Microsoft, but I did unknowingly used reactOS (linux.) for 4 years without knowing. the only real linux I liked was lindows, because it was fun to tinker with, sadly, Windows will always be my favorite, but I will drop it in a heartbeat as soon as the big brother effect takes over the interweb and software.(A good example is china, look it up.) MAC OSX is a great OS, but it seems a little overpriced, over hyped and  more of a status symbol then anything. I plan on making a osx86, but I WILL NEVER BUY A MAC. Tried to, but even used items are expensive as hell. a macbook only 6 years old cost 700.00 USD!

I wish I could make my own OS that supported windows files with a linux freedom. but no, if they ever do M$ will sue them and track down anyone who pirated it or bought it.
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Post by: Bella on April 18, 2010, 11:31:06 PM
ReactOS isn't Linux, it's not even close... it's its own OS, built from scratch.

Apple is overhyped as hell, but they make a good product, so... I used to think of Macs as status symbols too, but knowing a number of very average, normal, blue-collar people who use Macs has changed my stance.
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Post by: NejinOniwa on April 19, 2010, 09:22:01 AM
Windows support, use WINE?
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Post by: Chocofreak13 on April 19, 2010, 09:29:37 AM
i was about to say that :3

hmm, if it goes well, i will post copies of ChocOS once i get it. ^^

i'm not too much of a mac fan personally (have i said that already?). they seem too expensive, i haven't used them much at all (maybe once or twice?),  and people tend to favor them as "THE" art computer, but i do just fine on windows. :\
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Post by: Sora on April 20, 2010, 03:02:02 AM
Virtual Machines will only get you so far...
I say if you want to run Windows programmes, get Windows! Not Parallels or Wine...
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Post by: NejinOniwa on April 20, 2010, 03:14:04 AM
Aside from gaming purposes, I really don't see the deal with the Windows fanmonglery.
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Chocofreak13 on April 20, 2010, 09:15:36 AM
iz true.....though most programs run on windows so if you'd like to keep running fancy things like that you may need an emulator such as wine .____.
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Post by: IanDanKilmaster on April 20, 2010, 01:15:02 PM
It's really a user-by-user thing... you can generalize, but it helps to know specific things.

The most important thing - how much time are you willing to spend learning?  'Cos you're going to have to before you're able to reliably... enjoyably use a GNU/Linux OS.
The other things obviously have to deal with your purpose - if you play a lot of games, you'll want to stick with Windows; if you have a handful of games that you play but aren't always on the cutting edge, you might be interested in a GNU/Linux OS (both generalizations can be pretty much applied to other programs as well)

I personally don't have a lot of experience with Mac or its OSes (I did use some old iMacs back in HS... didn't care for it), but I've maintained an interest in it.  From what I understand, a large portion of the animated programs on television are made using Macs (watch a show like the Boondocks and see just how much Mac-related humor is in there), and a great deal of the artistic folks I knew in college also used Macs.  I won't say, "If you want to be an artist, use a Mac" because I think it's good to go against the flow every now and then.  I see plenty of artists online that use Windows or Linux, so I think there's always room for diversity.
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Post by: Chocofreak13 on April 21, 2010, 08:32:34 AM
i like that. the only experience i've had with macs are:
they were the art computers in middle school
my sister's ex (still somewhat a friend of mine...i guess) works at apple
my brother has a mac

and that's it. i prefer windows, cause it's what i grew up with, and am most used to.
also, being a nerd, i am open to linux....

macs are considered "the" art computer, but i don't like that. gimp and cg illuist worked on windows just fine. :\

oh and before i forget CONGRADULATIONS NEJIN ON 10,000 POSTS~~~
also,
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Post by: Bella on April 21, 2010, 12:49:41 PM
Totally agree with IDK here... the usefulness of an OS all depends on the purpose the user has in mind.

And Nejin too, outside of gaming, almost any modern OS can do what Windows can as well.

AND Choco, Macs are rather overrated as art computers. I'm an artist and a Mac-user and I don't even know WHY that is. Although, Mac does come with a pretty wicked native suite of amateur music/audio/photo/video editing software... but on the graphics end of things, you're pretty much left to fend for yourself (I use GIMP, because I like it more than PS).

I like how organized everything feels in Mac... everything looks the same, it's predictable, it's intuitive. Of course, that's probably a bad thing for a lot of people. Technologically-speaking, I probably wouldn't be so keen on it were it not a Unix-- I don't even LIKE Unix, but it's the best we have right now and  probably will be for a long time to come.
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Post by: Sora on April 22, 2010, 01:36:17 AM
What was this thread about, again?
Title: I've gone Linux - Le Gasp!
Post by: Chocofreak13 on April 22, 2010, 09:28:41 AM
someone switching to linux.

bella, i agree. and i'd like to try mac (don't knock it till ya try it, i suppose), if only i could get a copy.

meh, maybe if i build another computer, cause right now all i have is glazia and giantia, and the only plans for those include windows and linux. :\