everytime we talk about older OSes, they always relate to RL releases of OSes. basically, 1 came first then 2 (which was a better version of 1) and even though 98 and SE are widely considered twins, 98 came first and SE about a year later.
this makes about as much sense as me going to church.
so i decided to take an anime approach: (DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT ARTISTIC, JUST -slightly- INFORMATIVE.)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i98/Chocofreak13/ostanlineage10-1.jpg)
1. DOS, the black cat, guardian of the windows family.
2. Windows 1.0, the oldest known windows ancestor. Helped create the windows family.*
3. Windows 2.0, daughter of 1.0, keeper of the family record, current caretaker of 1.0.*
4. Windows 3.1, daughter of 2.0, link from main family to elder generations, current keeper of DOS. **
5. Yamada, daughter of 3.1 windows 98 first generation, current wherabouts unknown.(*)
5.a. Windows 98, daughter of Yamada, twin sister of SE
5.b. Windows 98 SE, daughter of Yamada, twin sister of 98
6. Windows 95, daughter of 3.1, family warrior.
6.a. Windows ME, possible daughter of 95, ward of 2000, 1 of 3 OSTAN mascot
7. NT, daughter of 3.1, caretaker of Inu-T.
7.a. Windows 2000, daughter of NT, guardian/caretaker of ME 1 of 3 OSTAN mascot
7.a.a. Pizza, adopted daughter of 2000, professional public nusiance
7.a.b. Windows Server 2000, possible daughter of 2000, Server representative
7.b. Inu-T, daughter of NT, ward of NT
7.c Windows XP (Saseko and Homeko), daughters of NT, twin sisters, 1 of 3 OSTAN mascot
7.d. Windows Server 2003 (SABA), daughter of NT, current server mascot, server represntative
8. Unknown (**)
8.a Windows Longhorn Server (SABA LONGHORN), unknown origin, server representative
8.b Windows Vista (Vistan), Unknown origin, multiple forms
9. Norton Anti-virus, Family Doctor, pervert
*This OS, while a part of the Windows Family, does not reside within the main branch of the Windows Family.
(*)This OS is currently missing.
**Due to a time paradox at the end of the cold war, 3.1 remains younger than her children.
(**) The entire Vista branch's lineage, while inexplicibly tied to the Windows Family, cannot be traced back. Origins thus remain unknown.
Well, as far as i know... Vista (wich was then called longhorn) was developed to replace the XP line, so basically they should be in that line... How Longhorn relates to Vista, i don't know, because Longhorn was the codename for Vista and basically all i ever saw from Longhorn were betas...
That's a pretty good chart. I like your artwork and I'm glad you remembered Windows 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan! :D
However...
2.0-tan is the oldest sister to 3.1-tan, 3.2-tan, 95-tan, the 95 OSR 2-tans, the 98-tans and possibly ME-tan. (the DOS-based branch of Windows-tans are all daughters to Windows 1.0-tan) I say possibly related to ME-tan because IIRC, Windows ME is largely DOS-based but also has some NT-based elements.
NT-tan and her descendants are not related by blood to the DOS-based Windows-tans (NT is based off of Digital Equipment Corporation's VMS operating system) and are actually stepsisters to them but none of the main Windows-tans know that. You are correct that NT-tan is the mother to Inu-T, 2K-tan, XP-tan, and Saba-tan. Vistan and Windows 7-tan are also NT-tan's daughters.
98-tan and 98SE-tan are sisters to the DOS-based Windows branch. Yamada isn't an OS-tan, she's just an OS-tan wannabe like WE-tan and Pizza-ko.
There is also a Windows 3.2-tan who is 3.1-tan's twin sister but because of 3.2-tan's distant upbringing (and living as a wanderer for her whole life), most of the other Windows-tans are unaware of her existence.
And then there are 95 OSR 2.1-tan and 95 OSR 2.5-tan but they don't reside with the rest of the Windows Family. They live as wanderers.
Digital family life has nevar been this complex.
aurora, i agree with most of your points. i will work them into a version 2 chart. (thanx for the compliment btw, but they're just doodles. i'm also getting a good art program and a tablet soon hopefully, so perhaps i will improve. :3 )
as for yamada tan, though, i've read around, she IS 98, but was criticized for being too plain. i still count her (she's just forgotten, like many non-mainstream tans), and besides, i've always pictured her (from an anime standpoint, not an os standpoint) as 98 and SE's mother, she looks the part, and seems to be the only OS who can actually hold down a job. but since she's not mentioned much, or pictured with any OSes, i peg her as currently "missing".
thanx for the info though. it's going into my next report.
btw, next year i hope to be part of an online animation class, if i make the cut please expect lots of OS-tan related flash clips! xD
also, next time, could you include a link to some pics of these tans? i'll go to wiki for now, but...
oh, and a suggestion for future site updates: a gallery search feature would be nice. :3
Here's Windows 3.2-tan (http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_chibiwindows3_2tan.jpg)
95 OSR 2.5-tan and 97-tan (http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_OScarameldansen1.jpg)
95 OSR 2.1-tan (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/CaptainMiko/OS-tans/95OSR2-1tan.png)
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95 OSR 2.5-tan and 97-tan (http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/normal_OScarameldansen1.jpg)
Caramelldansen~
Nice job, choco.
thanx both, got em. going through the wiki anyway to see if there are any i missed.
also looking on actual os releases on wiki, why don't we use their codenames more often? janus and chicago and asteroid sound nice, i think. :3 not that there's anything bad about the names now, i just think janus sounds pretty. :3
Another of Windows 3.x's codenames is... SPARTA!!
The Classic Mac OS also has some awesome codenames though the only one that most people know are Mac OS 9's first codename of "Sonata" and Macintosh System 7's first codenames of "Blue" and "Big Bang".
lol, "THIS IS SPARTAAAAA!!!!" *points at 3.1*
btw, is there a 3.0 tan?
Windows 3.0-tan is the same character as 3.1-tan, just when she was very young.
i see. :3
hmm, damn, i was picturing (anime standpoint) a big sis that 3.1 remembers fondly, but died when she was very small....
at any rate, i'm gonna split, okie? i'm getting antsy (pc and ps2 running upstairs) and i'm already freaking out that itunes had dissapeared. 0_0;
g'nighty'night.
3.1-tan does have a very sappy backstory in the OS-tan Annex Project:
She was born during the era of MS-IBM cooperation and she lived with Windows 1.0-tan, 2.0-tan, MS-DOS-tan, PC-DOS-tan, OS/2-tan and possibly Xenix-tan (she was said to have retired around the time 3.0-tan was born).
This was for a very short time, as later in 1990, the MS-IBM Family broke up. And then during the OS Wars, Windows 1.0-tan and 2.0-tan were exiled and 3.1-tan is not allowed to speak of them (if she can remember them at all)
Here's my try at a Windows family tree. It's a collage but I like how you went that extra mile and drew everything in yours!
(EDIT: OOPS! I forgot to add in CE-tan! >__< )
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/windowshistorychart-rev1.png)
Its missing server 2008, though has anyone even created a server 08 tan?
Oops! I forgot her too! >__<
There is a Server 2008-tan. She's a mackerel girl like 2003 Server-tan but 2008 Server-tan has curly blonde hair, a tiara and her mackerel body is gold-colored.
You know guys.. Longhorn is sever 2008.. much like a couple other tans there is more then one version of her. Ive seen a few pictures (tho i dont remember where) of a Saba with horns, and that was suppose to be server 2008
Well, not really, actually - it's true Saba 2008 has horns, but the original longhorn-tan is someone different - since Vista was in prototype status and known to the public for quite a time and under this time known as longhorn, there was a separate -tan made during that period. Longhorn thus represents the prototype releases before it was named Vista. Server 2008 is a separate, finished product.
aurora, yours makes mine fail!!! ;_;
at any rate:
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i98/Chocofreak13/windowsfamilytree2o.jpg)
oh also i was sure there was a comic with saba longhorn it it!!! but i can't find it.....
so i'll give you this instead. ♥
http://iiichan.net/stuff/homeo/index.php?file=37
pizza is sou kawaii, rite?
Lol I haven't seen a family tree for OS before
i came up with the idea last week, icerain. nice to meet you btw, haven't seen you before. :]
but aurora, i like yours better, on some points. i might borrow some of your format for version 3. :3
Thanks! I'm glad you like my version too but mine's not as original as yours -_-
I still need to revise my version of the Windows family tree (add in CE-tan and Server 2008-tan) and I'm also working on the Mac-tan family tree (I'm warning you all now, it's going to be weird!).
Well, that's mac for ya...weird... ^_^
ooooo do the mac tree in a mafia style!! xD there's a photo in the gallery like that, i love it! xD
at any rate, version 3 is done, just need to colour and upload.
btw, i got my tablet in the mail yesterday, perhaps we'll be seeing prettyful things coming from me now!! =D
LOL, Have fun with it... ^_^
i plan to, when i get the time. :]
Here's the first revision of the Mac-tan family tree!
(http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/albums/userpics/10307/machistorychart_rev1.jpg)
Wow, different, but not much more complicated than the windows tree... ^_^
And I thought that System 3.4-tan and 5-tan would be enough to make anyone go "WTF?!"
Since I added in the codenames for the Mac OSX-tan, I was wondering if I should also add in some of the codenames for the Classic Mac OSes too.
Sure, why not...Makes it more complete... and indeed MacOS 3.4 is indeed a bit strange... ^_^
i like it, never seen the early MACs before! (earliest i saw was Lisa and OS2.)
i should try to make an OS-kun tree, and upload the ver. 3 windows tree. O__O;
btw, got tablet and CG program! <D
aurora-san, you left out Lisa, os-2 (the blonde one) and OS9's name! (sonata)
Lisa-tan and Apple II-tan (that's the other blonde girl older than the Mac-tans) are not directly related to either branch of the Macintosh line but if I decide to extend the family tree to include all the Apple-tans I'll include them in. Though I certainly should add in Lisa-tan since the Mac OS was heavily influenced by the Lisa OS.
I'll add in the Classic Mac codenames too in the next revision.
But aren't Lisa and Mac System II hardware?
You're right but are getting some things mixed up here.
The Lisa is hardware but there is also the Lisa OS (Lisa-tan represents both). And once again you've gotten Apple II-tan (the blonde girl with braided pigtails) confused with another. Apple II-tan is a catch-all character representing the Apple II series hardware and its OSes. Mac System 2-tan is one of the Mac OS-tans, of course!
The thing is a lot of the vintage OS-tans mainly represent the hardware but assumed to also represent its OSes or version of BASIC it runs. These vintage-tans tend to blur the line between OS-tans and hardware-tans!
Ah, so the older the system, the more confusing it gets... ^_^
AUGH, i'm gonna stick with windows on second thought, mac be too confusing.
except Kyourou-kyun. sou kawaii, Kyourou and Emuii 4eva!!!
lulz chatspeak xD
About early Macintosh version numbers...
In the beginning there were three separate pieces of software in a Mac: the Finder, System Suitcase (sometimes called just System), and ROM. The ROM stored code in a chip so it could be kept out of RAM, which was very expensive. The Finder was like Windows Explorer: it was the program that you used to launch other programs. The System Suitcase was everything else. The ROM chips were part of the motherboard and rarely upgraded. That leaves the Finder and System Suitcase.
At first each had their own version number, but that got confusing very fast. At some point certain Finder + System Suitcase combinations where discussed as "System Software x.y" were x and y had nothing to do with the System Suitcase or Finder version number. System Software 5.1 had System Suitcase 4.3, Finder 6.0 and MultiFinder 1.0 !
To fix this, System Software 6 brought all the version numbers together. Also called just "System 6", it was the best yet and lasted much longer than anything previous.
System 7 was a complete rewrite, and had many new features. Apple agreed to let other computer makers sell their computers (clones) with "System 7" for a fee.
Mac OS 7.6 was more trademarkable than System and allowed Apple to shutdown illegal cloners more effectively. Mac OS 8 was not part of the contract with clone makers; 8.0 was the end of legal Macintosh clones.
Apple continued making large and small updates to Mac OS until 9.2, when they dropped the old line completely for Mac OS X.
More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_history
Hey, are there any OS-tans for A/UX ?
Quote from: "iamnothere900"About early Macintosh version numbers...
In the beginning there were three separate pieces of software in a Mac: the Finder, System Suitcase (sometimes called just System), and ROM. The ROM stored code in a chip so it could be kept out of RAM, which was very expensive. The Finder was like Windows Explorer: it was the program that you used to launch other programs. The System Suitcase was everything else. The ROM chips were part of the motherboard and rarely upgraded. That leaves the Finder and System Suitcase.
Thanks for clearing all of that that up! ;019 I didn't know how to explain all of that myself!
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At first each had their own version number, but that got confusing very fast. At some point certain Finder + System Suitcase combinations where discussed as "System Software x.y" were x and y had nothing to do with the System Suitcase or Finder version number. System Software 5.1 had System Suitcase 4.3, Finder 6.0 and MultiFinder 1.0 !
I'm still baffled by those strange version numbers (who isn't?!), especially System 3.4 which doesn't even have a System Software version number!
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To fix this, System Software 6 brought all the version numbers together. Also called just "System 6", it was the best yet and lasted much longer than anything previous.
System 6 brought the version numbers ALMOST completely together but it was close enough and a lot less confusing. :)
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System 7 was a complete rewrite, and had many new features. Apple agreed to let other computer makers sell their computers (clones) with "System 7" for a fee.
That probably explains why many apps work with System 6 (and older) but not System 7! I thought that System 7 was good (except for System 7.5) though its advancements did have a few major trade-offs.
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Mac OS 7.6 was more trademarkable than System and allowed Apple to shutdown illegal cloners more effectively. Mac OS 8 was not part of the contract with clone makers; 8.0 was the end of legal Macintosh clones.
That's right! But IIRC, most of those clones at the time were legal. Apple was losing a lot of money to the clones (legal or otherwise) and wanted to shut them all down.
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Hey, are there any OS-tans for A/UX ?
Yes there is! Here's her article at the OSC Wiki: (http://ostan-collections.net/wiki/A/UX)
Oy, Oy.. post that in your ZerOSanity thread... ;070
Shameless self-advertising 101, smokey, yo. -w-
uhm.........................yeah i think i'll go now.
I edited my last post to be less shameless.
nice, thanks...
But maybe you could toss in a link in your signature... Then you'll bring ZerOSanity under attention without the chance on OT...
yesh. what smokey said. :]
Wow everything got complicated so quickly... this will really help me make my game though! Cool! Also, I didn't know that 3.1-tan and I were the same age! I feel closer to her somehow.
Quote from: "Toki"...3.1-tan and I were the same age...
;018
o_o
Wait, wut?!
You're too cute to be 19!
I'm not 19 yet >3>
Besides... Haruko Momoi is 38 and she's way cuter than I'll ever be.
Well it was a 30% chance you would be 19...
Should've done the flattering thing, though and assume you were 18...
Thats okay. I somehow was hanging out with a bunch of japanese industry people (like talent scouts. wtf?) and they all thought I was 15... thats flattering right? o_0
HAY!! YOU"RE MAKING ME OT AGAIN!! AAH! * runs away *
yay! someone almost my age! *toki hug*
Someone remind me how I am related to this age-thing, I can't seem to perceive it correctly.
...is 19 the official moeblob-age or something on this board, or what? I don't seem to fit in in that category (i fukken hope)
wait....thought you said you were in your 20's.
well, idk if there's a set age, but toki appears to be moe no matter her age. she could be 90 and still moe, so it seems.
we're a tad off topic, no?
hmmm, i wonder if it's possible to assemble a linux family tree....O__o;
well, linux seems to be more like a renegade street gang...
WAT
20's
ARE YOU CRAZY WOMAN
I'm like what, 18½!?
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And the Linux family tree...
hm.
Is there a possibility to do something like different -tans for different kernels? or is that unnecessary?
would be a big tree ^_^
With the basic distro's and all the sub distros...
Yeah, drawing a Linux family tree or even a Unix family tree would be way too difficult and huge! x__x
SPAAAARTAAAAAAAAAANS!!!!!!!
OONNN!!!
AAAA!!!!
PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANEEE!!!
NEJIN!!!! *rabid glomp* YOU'RE ONLY A YEAR OLDER THAN ME!! >]
linux isn't an official family. they're more like a motley street gang of orphans. like the goonies or something. (if i got that reference wrong, don't yell at me, i've yet to see that movie :[ )
Wow, Linux is a family, but they're all bastard childs of Unixes...
Not necessarily. Linux IS based off of Unix and made to operate just like Unix would but Linux is not derived from its code at all.
However, Linux-tan is sort of like the daughter Unix-sama wished she had! Unix-sama's actual daughters are mostly bratty, fight against each other and she can barely trust most of them at all due to all the infighting since the Unix Wars.
speaking of which, i have yet to see any linux SONS. any males?
my friend would look just like slackware if he were a girl. :\
There aren't any human male Linux characters. The only male Linux character is that creepy penguin with three packages if you know what I mean. o_o
*shudder*
Why, why was he created?!
So...the Linuces are UNIX-sama's adoptive children.
Good riddance?
AAAAAHHHHH!!! O_____O;;; (penguin-thing)
if slackware was male he would look like my friend russel. xD
makes me wonder who linuxs' various biological parents are.
we know that FCL was product of sweden. :3
Aw, Nejin! You perv! ^_^
Sorry I haven't posted in awhile guys XD
Ew, linux-kun is creepy alright.. I wish they would make a human linux-kun D:
Yep, Linux-kun is one animal those animal-rights groups wouldn't mind being hunted... ^_^
but isn't he representing knoppix or GNU?
i need not state my slackware-kun point again. and fcl-kun would be like kernel sanders! xD
Awesome. Never saw a complete three of Windows. It's kinda missing CE, Server 2008, Home Server, OS2 Warp as well as minor variations to be mentioned like XP 64 bit, Tablet PC, Fundamentals for Legacy PC's and Neptune which is real just not released to the public, only the workers.
Wonder why microsoft didn't just call 98SE windows 99 and 95 OSR2.5 as windows 96. Yeah I know those name exist already. 96 is a beta released update for 95 supposedly and is called windows Nashville and 97 tan is the prebeta of 98 called Memphis. 99 is the beta of 2000 called NT 5.0. ;018 wt... if so what is Neptune then? Windows 2001? based on XP released XP is NT 5.1 or Windows 2001. Confusive but makes sense. Just intertwined which derails the actual sense into not making sense. This thing needs to be studied or debated. ;138
Neptune was going to be a home version of 2000, but it was pulled by Bill in favour of ME. I've played with the beta and it seems pretty solid, although a tad unstable when it has the latest DirectX...
And what was Odyssey now again...something to do with 2k as well, if I remember things right.
Windows Oddysey's goal was to develop a successor to 2k. Also, Neptune and Odyssey teams combined with XP team.
^^
I still can't believe that the fairly stable Neptune got scrapped and replaced with the dreaded ME!
but we loves an ME!!! she's so adorable and crashy!
oh wow, i just realized that i never uploaded version 3.
.........i wanna make version 4 now. but it's too late, so i'll work on it tommorow, if someone reminds me.
ME-tan is very likable (because of her crashiness and her cuteness) but ME itself? Not so much! But if it weren't for ME's unreliability, the OS-tans as we know them likely wouldn't exist, so we primarily owe the existence of the OS-tans to Windows ME and its infamy!
Yes Ive heard ME being has she is carries a great piece of history over her. She was the first tan ever created. To tell you the truth I like ME. I have it in virtual pc 2007 and she hardly ever crashes. Randomly on random days at random times she crashes the virtual machine service. Says: Vmsrvc - the application vmsrvc.exe has caused a problem in vmsrvc. The application will now close. It closes and nothing happens. So I think I have a pretty stable and loved ME version.
As an OS collector I also have Neptune and it's pretty much like an advanced 2K but a very stable one. Sometimes drivers mess her up. I've gotten that problem were at the end I manage to revive her and bring her to life. "Neptune, I'm so glad to see you safe, welcome back girl - Ohh master thank you for your loyalty and kindness" When she restarts you wish she'd say that. What she says is a box with System Failure : This machine has recovered from a fatal internal error. Would you like to provide comments about this problem so it can be fixed?
Obviously the Neptune team does not exist so you cannot report anything since to microsoft Neptune does not exist as it was abandoned/scrapped. The windows update service also fails on her and many programs requiring 2K SP 1, 2, 3, 4, RU will not install. Since she's an NTC or no service pack modified 2K. Ever tried SP4 on her? I did it says Neptune cannot be upgraded becaus the SP4 of 2K is for 2k SP3. lol Makes sense. Either way Neptune is a 2K engine so it's kinda messed also.
Yeah, Neptune was a bitch to get running properly. She comes as standard with a crippled version of IE 5.5, which can't do anything. You update to IE 6 SP1 and it will crash a fair amound of times. It also comes with DirectX 7, so you try to update it to DirectX 9.0c and it hates you. I managed to get it work by copying some files from my ME partition.
Long story short: she's stable, but only as long as you're careful and have a copy of ME/2k to hand in case you need some files.
if given the option, i'd dual (or even tri-) boot xp and me (and 2k). my sister knows some people who still run ME due to the fact that there are some EPIC games that were made for ME and ONLY ME. so in order to play them, they have to keep her around. maybe that's why she's sometimes pictured w/ a game controller ^^
i wish i could have kept 2k-tan. she really was reliable and strong, and while the graphics were a little slack, she had screensavers, which i really liked (xp-pro has none :\ ). sadly, i was stuck in a catch-22: in order to use wireless internet, she had to be at sp4, which you need the internet to upgrade to. :[
hmm, my dream laptop: an alienware area 51 running windows ME.... >:]
Hey chocofreak. Need help making an os three? I'm planning on doing one hopefully implementing major versions and I will try to use pics which will be cool. got a little problem. There is no OS Tan of Microsoft Home Server or Microsoft Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs I need help on those two.
sure, sounds great. :3
but it's not version 3; it's version 4 at this point, if you read every single little stupid posting you will notice that i made a ver. 3 but never uploaded it.
so it's version 4. hmm, i should start ^^;
and yeah, we should cross notes on those two. for a server, perhaps homeko+saba...?
Quote from: "Chocofreak13"if given the option, i'd dual (or even tri-) boot xp and me (and 2k). my sister knows some people who still run ME due to the fact that there are some EPIC games that were made for ME and ONLY ME. so in order to play them, they have to keep her around. maybe that's why she's sometimes pictured w/ a game controller ^^
i wish i could have kept 2k-tan. she really was reliable and strong, and while the graphics were a little slack, she had screensavers, which i really liked (xp-pro has none :\ ). sadly, i was stuck in a catch-22: in order to use wireless internet, she had to be at sp4, which you need the internet to upgrade to. :[
hmm, my dream laptop: an alienware area 51 running windows ME.... >:]
What are these epic games?
And I quite agree. The laptop I'm gonna buy off my boss I will put ME on, and maybe 2k.
Quote from: "Chocofreak13"for a server, perhaps homeko+saba...?
Quite an idea. Homeserver is designed to connect home appliances like with wireless it can connect blutooth, cell phones tablet pcs xbox 360s and was designed to personally connect XP and Vista pcs. so perhaps a saba homeko + premium. If so wich vistan should we use to cross with Homeko? I'm bad at drawing. This could be a good start here: http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=23 We need to make at least a descent one not a fish girl as we could use the bottom of her to represent her cross and features instead of a tail as we all see in nt, 2k, 03, 08 servers.
We need to mix her up a little more and choose another hair color and take those XP off of her and put HS there.
As for Fundamentals for legacy pc's it's a new one: we could start the design based as; she is a XP but stripped down and compact able to run with ME & 2K specs. It's a cross between homeko and promeko as it does not contain media center but does not have homeko's program access and defaults, paint nor Professional's outlook express and usb support. It needs a new clothing hairstyle and color and attitude.
Uhm... guys, if you want a good family tree reference... look into this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows_Family_Tree.svg
I guess it's the most accurate way of portraying the Windows family tree... no cure of it myself. It doesn't have the unreleased versions though. I guess you can get those in between the actual family tree.
kiso, thankyou! <3 this will realy help. :3
freaky-san (idk if you is maile or female yet @___@), i disagree. she is a server, and should match. but i understand where you're coming from, there was a concept-tan i did for win 2k pro server (something like that) that i did but never uploaded (picture a schoolgirl, but instead of sailor collar there is giant tail that looks like shrimp sushi hanging down. (2k deals w/ food alot, so i decided to follow suit.)
what if we design her as more of a mermaid and less of a fish with a human head? (honestly, when i put it like that, it's making me think of knoppix-kun. DEAR GOD THE HORROR!! THE HORROR!!! O_____O; )
i'll draw a concept sketch and upload it tomorrow. (oh shi-- just remembered i need to take a break from drawing cause i'm showing signs of carpel tunnel. eh......oh well, i'll draw anyway. i'll get injured in the line of duty, how nobel. -w- )
btw, i'll mix in some vista, but not that vista, she's always been a little slutty to me. nin-vista was always mah favorite. <3
i'm printing the info, i'll start tonite.
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http://ostan-collections.net/topic-231.html
this could help. stumbled on it by accident while searching google for pics of the various DoSes that lived w/ 3.1 before the split-up.
We definitely should use the small 100 x 100 pictures of the tans to make a visible timeline but your appreciation of drawing full bodies or scenery would be greatly admired. I'll see what I can do. if this timeline is done the way I picture it it might become a wallpaper due to it's size. hopefully i'll be able to fit them in honoring almost all os versions. I'm still doubtful about including betas as I don't know much about them and betas have no pictures except Longhorn. and I don't plan to include crippled versions of windows because some people dislike their bundled original versions like Vista P and XP KN and such other. If Mac isn't sued for including safari or quicktime as their software then neither should microsoft for their IE and Media Player, period. Windows needs to come with at least some stuff DUH! if it comes without an internet explorer How the hell are you going to connect to the internet in order to download and install firefox, safari, chrome, opera, mosaic, netscape, flock, seamonkey, avant, maxthon etc? and lets say i got many CDs i want to hear music and I don't have a player such as media player to listen and because I don't have ie installed i cannot donwload it nor download Itunes, winamp, vlc, quictime player, real player, adobe player, because i don't have IE either. Beats me but those anti microsoft empire activists are rather lacking common sense. Justice for all. I think I derailed from the topic there ... 0_0
you're getting off topic, dearie~
at any rate, this is where our collaboration splits--i hand draw all my work. (even on the computer, thankyou tablet.)
just an update, i have completed the basic laydown for 2/4 parts of the tree. (left is servers and other pieces, such as antiviruses and whatnot.) i have also sketched a quick concept for homserver.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i98/Chocofreak13/concept-tan.jpg) (w/ the arrow)
alas, freak-san, this is where our collaboration parts. and to everyone, i know you mean well, but do remember, this thread was started from an ANIME-STYLE stand point of the family tree, NOT the real life release dates.
will post ver. 4 of family tree soon. freak-san, you're still welcome to make your own, we've gotten multiple versions, after all.
Uh... shouldn't home server be wearing maid style clothing? You know.... 'cause serving's the main function of the OS in relation to the others... she'd be the OS-tan's maid-like companion.
Anyways... interesting design... mermaid. I'd like to see one of those colored.
Ahh nice I'll try to draw too to see if I come with something. Yes Homeserver might be maid but she is a server. might has well make it a little more professinal. How about a secretary type? And yes to Chocofreak you might upload your. I'll work on mine. I'll let you know as soon as possible. perhaps we could merge our or do a 3rd combined one. As for flpc i'll tackle that. Also let me look at any missing versions of windows. Catcha later. Thanks for the support. Don't give up, I won't either.
IF you want to look at the complete Windows family (including CE and Mobile) Wikipedia has an entry of every codenamed OS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_codenames
Ahh nice but If I include those the OS three will not even fit in one paper. Here's my try at FLPC Design's.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2403/scan0001s.jpg
And this is a link to the OS three I'm making, it's only a made up one so it's not official. I has lots of errors and giberrish written.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6691/scan0002bhm.jpg
DAMN yours is complicated. i'll revise mah design, i'm just stuck on a kogal obsession lately. ^^ for hair colour i'm thinking maybe a light sand colour like nin-vista and XPMCE (the cat-eared version).
btw, i'm bored, so i'm doing what you were asking in your pic and revising the sketch. i'll upload tomorrow. (idk how good it'll be, my artz suck.) i'll also work on a revistion of the one i did.
Couple of Suggestions:
Get the family trees done before artwork... helps a lot. Also, if you're going to do your own artwork, do them separately then scan them and add them to a digital tree... like Aurora did on her version of the family tree. that way you don't have to worry about space.
You can alternatively divide the tree into separate groups. that would be one for the DOS/9x family, one for NT family and one for the CE/Mobile family.
Okay. thanks a ton. As you see I don't do good at drawing.
And to Kiso, I was thinking about that but 9X is such a small family and Dos can be used in one single space since they vary so little. NT is quite a big show. The alpha three I made, the suares are supposed to be pictures but not evryone will have so I'm thinking in making a small line three with a circle were the pick will be and then make tiny extensions to other relatives of it for example Put the 2K picture and represent it with her pick and then on her top derivate a picture of server tan 2000 and then i'll stick 4 small lines naming the server versions with no pics. Reasons; 1 The three would be Enormous if everyone has a pic, 2 the three would be hell complicated, 3 not everyone has a pic.
Well... that can be done... and may be expanded later when depictions for the "missing members" of the family start to come. In any case... I could make one myself
Hmm... I wonder if we even need a family tree for the OS-tans in the wiki.
hmm Not a chance, FLPC has been out now for more than 3 years according to the launch date and Home Server is nearing 2 years and neither of them have been presented with a female representative yet.
mmm, ik what you suggested about putting it together later makes sense, kiso-san, but i guess i'm just a rebel when it comes to that. ^^ making stuff up as it goes, just like the crew of the starship enterprise! xD
oh jeebus, i've been so focused on baking and preparing for a showdown that i completely spaced drawing. O___O; eeh, i'll upload it later today....hopefully. ^^;
Hehe It's ok. You said you took my flpc right? that's why I haven't done another yet thou I believe I'll only do another equal or worse.
yeah :\
but i haven't coloured it yet, so i'll post it later >___<
so much drama these days. it's worse than dawson's creek!! >.<
You can always post the uncolored version first and later post up the colored version. That worked for so many people, they even made a black and white comic genre called manga. Oh wait... those are from Japan... lol
Anyways, I just wanted to say that you shouldn't worry about colors for drawings. Sometimes, you need the outlines to better view your characters.
Yeah I think. Nice you have it. I might as well color my original one but ahh damn I don't have anything to paint with, I remembered my brother took my pencils and well you know. *poof*
oh noes. where did this thread go?
I eated it.
Shouldn't I have? '.'
barf it up, master.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i98/Chocofreak13/i_frew_up.jpg)
All I need to know is that every single OS-tan is indirectly or directly descended from Multics-sama (directly in the case of the Unixen, Mac OXes, and Linuxes, sorta).
:p
MOTHER OF ALL THINGS LOL
(this is an inside joke with myself, don't bother asking)
lol, Mother of all Tech Demos...
that poor cat.....xD
it's nice to have forum revival recently.
anyway, are we going to try to revive the family tree project or is it on hold for now?
I've been busy with other projects, mainly my comic series. But I'm glad to see this forum revived, and this revival has inspired me to make some more OS-tan stuff, so I'll try again with this.
i'm thankful i posted that cat. i needed a laugh after seeing the sheer amount of text i'm going to print. (let's hope pierre doesn't notice..... vv; )
thanks, i'll try to get back to it as well, but right now i'm currently tied up witht eh quiz project, so it may be a little while. on the bright side, by the end of it, i'll be fluent in osfandom. and i'll probably have enough art to construct several trees.....
come to think of it, openVMS is the mother of NT-tan, who is the mother of half of the win-tans, and step-mother to the rest, which makes openVMS grandma to windows, which means we should put her in the tree too.....who was openVMS related to? can't find her in the wiki.
VMS-tan's mother is RSX-11-tan, whose adoptive mother is DOS-11-tan, though RSX-11-tan's true ancestry is unknown. They're listed in the wiki.
VMS-tan's younger sister is VAXELN-tan. RT-11-tan and RSTS-tan are step-relatives to them, those two being stepsisters to VMS's and VAXELN's mother.
TOPS-10-tan and TOPS-20-tan were also in the same faction as them (The DEC), and are some sort of step-relatives, but I don't know what their relation is exactly.
like a 3rd cousin twice removed.
anyway, i shoul put all this into a new tree....
after the quiz.....
and i'm starting a new projet for this...
o____o; so much to do.
Added after 24 minutes:
some of those aren't in the wiki yet, they have yet to be written. :\
Quote from: "Chocofreak13"i'm thankful i posted that cat. i needed a laugh after seeing the sheer amount of text i'm going to print. (let's hope pierre doesn't notice..... vv; )
thanks, i'll try to get back to it as well, but right now i'm currently tied up witht eh quiz project, so it may be a little while. on the bright side, by the end of it, i'll be fluent in osfandom. and i'll probably have enough art to construct several trees.....
come to think of it, openVMS is the mother of NT-tan, who is the mother of half of the win-tans, and step-mother to the rest, which makes openVMS grandma to windows, which means we should put her in the tree too.....who was openVMS related to? can't find her in the wiki.
Aurora-sama is correct on all accounts, but there is evidence that RSX 11-tan's ancestry lies in a VERY VERY old OS from the 1960s. The only info I've found on it is a single post in Alt.sys.pdp10 (and I quote):
QuoteRSX did not come from a DEC operating system, as you observed. It's intellectual precedants were a realtime executive writen by John Neblett (now retired in Ashville, NC) for the RW-300 process control computer. Thence to "The Synchronous Executive" by me about 1963 for the TRW-330 process control computer.
The entire thread is here http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sys.pdp10/msg/51870e4fc2d88da5
I've always supposed RSX-11-tan's true mother would be some sort of tribeswoman or nomad, from a culture that is very primitive (considering its release date) and almost lost to time (I can find no info on it). How she ended up under DOS Batch11-tan's care is a good question; maybe, like the RSX11's true heritage itself, the story will remain a mystery.
I've been considering making a family tree for the OSX-tans; I suspect it would be one of the most sizable direct lineages in all of OS-tandom, but I will need help with it (especially around the BSD-to-NeXTSETP-to-Rhapsody server junction).
*oh Aurora....*
Mysteries of ancient times? In my OS-Tan fandom?
DO WANT!
yippie. as long as i gets help w/ all these projects and such. :3
I think i'll make a family tree for this!
In my family i'm the holder of all family documents and the family tree organizer for the next three generations in my family, so wipping up a family tree of OS' shouldn't be that hard :D
Might I offer some of my preliminary work, maybe it can be of help (http://cptlfrghtr.deviantart.com/art/I-I-OS-tan-Family-Web-149630187).
THANKYOUS~ *HUG*