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Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Chocofreak13 on August 03, 2010, 10:40:17 AM
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shitty is being stubborn in being reformatted.

this dopey computer ("family" computer) is TECHNICALLY the newest one in the house (except maybe my burnt-out laptop) and it makes Hac-chan look like speed racer.

the only other working computer, a 2k box w/ sp4, has no wireless, and, once again, kind of makes Hac-chan look like speed racer. (WHY HAVE SP4 IF NO WIRELESS CARD??)

and this stupid 98 box i was hacking apart won't open on the other side so i can get the hard drive out >____< *kick*

DISCUSS: how computers have been massive dissapointments/frusterations to you

"Master, have i failed you...?" "YES. YOU HAVE."
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Dr. Kraus on August 03, 2010, 12:51:42 PM
My Seagate 750GB hard drive died a little while ago with no logical reason at all. But I was able to just use a 1TB to replace it, also had everything backed up on another drive so everything is A O-K!
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: VonDaab on August 03, 2010, 02:06:44 PM
My parents Fujitsu Siemens desktop that died after 4 years,  so had to dig out its 12 year old predecessor, Intel Celeron, which runs fine, even though bit slow.

My sisters Fujitsu Siemens laptop that was unusable after 2 years. Pile of crap was full of ventilation holes, yet still overheating. Also the thing weighted a ton, but still didnt offer any too fancy specs.
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Chocofreak13 on August 04, 2010, 02:17:30 PM
my sis's dell went after 4 years. not only did the hard drive fry but the power connector dislodged, taking a chunk of the motherbard with it.
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: svx on August 05, 2010, 03:07:18 AM
My brother loved Asus.  He's... used Asus motherboards for years.  Years and years.

Motherboards are... like... ceiling fans.  Sometimes you'll be there.  Getting cooled down beneath the gentle breeze of a dizzily twirling mess of fan blades.  You'll be there, feeling refreshed as the air swirls around you...  And... other times?

Other times, you'll be standing there...  and you'll wish it sped faster. So you'll upgrade its BIOS so that it accepts newer AMD Phenom processors.  You'll... Go to the manufacturer's website. Emerson. Casablanca. Minka Aire. Hunter. Asus. Whichever manufacturer made your fan.  So you can upgrade its BIOS.

And then it will stop working after applying the latest BIOS upgrade. And that's what happened to my brother's ceiling fan. Motherboard, I mean. Ehh.

He buys Gigabyte now. And runs Intel processors. And he hates Asus passionately. This is the same reason that I hate Casablanca passionately. Ceiling fans are defeated by the invention of air conditioning units, A.C. units for those who speak technical jargon, which have failsafe mechanisms to reflash themselves from a file on a USB thumb drive.

You just... hold down the the Fn key while depressing the power button for five seconds. And the air conditioner will fix itself.

Nachos.
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Chocofreak13 on August 05, 2010, 12:33:42 PM
salsa.

still my computer upstairs refuses to reformat. i'd replace the motherboard had i the thought to actually keep the cables around for the old one (power switch connector, ect). NANAMI REFUSES TO LEAVE. i need to replace her with Saseko so she won't be a mute anymore, but nanami just won't go. even when i tried formatting the blank drive to dual boot them it wouldn't work.

i seriously need a new motherboard. >___<
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: NejinOniwa on August 06, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
DELTA has an ASUS motherboard, and her wireless has stopped working after the latest reformat; that's a Win failure, I think, though, so no blame. But I agree that their support isn't exactly the greatest there is...

At least she's recognizing the device now. -w-;
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: SleepyD on August 07, 2010, 03:24:37 AM
Quote from: "Chocofreak13"salsa.

still my computer upstairs refuses to reformat. i'd replace the motherboard had i the thought to actually keep the cables around for the old one (power switch connector, ect). NANAMI REFUSES TO LEAVE. i need to replace her with Saseko so she won't be a mute anymore, but nanami just won't go. even when i tried formatting the blank drive to dual boot them it wouldn't work.

i seriously need a new motherboard. >___<
Nanami LURVES YOU.

I just have a cheap ECS motherboard for my Nanami. Doing alright. Nothing major. Only problem was that it didn't have drivers for Win2k, so I couldn't dual boot 2k properly, and now poor 2k-tan's just sitting in her hard drive... waiting...

Might get a new board in the future. but not anytime soon. Saseko's in my laptop. The fan in there broke near one of the screws, sending plastic parts flying all over the inside.  Now it only boots up when it wants to, since the hard drive isn't always detected. And when it does start up, I'm prone to random BSODs. Especially if I nudge it or move it just a tiny bit.  Must keep it very very still...

I've moved out most of the stuff in there onto Nanami, and I've since graduated from uni, so I don't have as much of a need to use it now.  


Nanami is taking over in this room. >_>
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Chocofreak13 on August 07, 2010, 02:33:07 PM
my motherboard is an intel that i sorta hacked out of a computer i.........found. i swapped it out for my old AMD because this one had an extra ram slot (less expansion slots, but i only had one card for it anyway, so it's not much of a loss). this one's sound support only extends up to XP, though, which is why i wanted to swap it out.

and if she lurvs me, she should be willing to wait untill speedy's fixed. then she can move there. (fixing speedy the laptop is less expensive than i though, only $175. :3 will make a good college computer. -w-)
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: NejinOniwa on August 07, 2010, 04:33:08 PM
175 bucks? For like half again of that, you could buy a decent new one, you know....
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Xeon on August 07, 2010, 05:02:44 PM
I'm curious. How expensive are computer parts in the states?.
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Dr. Kraus on August 07, 2010, 06:34:12 PM
Depends, a mobo can cost $50-$750, HDD $22-$3122, CPU $30-$1030, the list go's on and on
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: PizzaDrill on August 08, 2010, 04:54:43 PM
Quote from: "Xeon"I'm curious. How expensive are computer parts in the states?.
http://www.newegg.com/
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Dr. Kraus on August 08, 2010, 11:18:31 PM
Lol, could've posted that Pizza good save
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Chocofreak13 on August 09, 2010, 08:29:43 PM
Quote from: "NejinOniwa"175 bucks? For like half again of that, you could buy a decent new one, you know....

dell (http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/deals/popular_laptops?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=bt&dgc=IR&cid=17495&lid=405688)
HP (http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/store_access.do?template_type=landing&landing=notebooks)
ASUS (http://usa.asus.com/ProductGroup1.aspx?PG_ID=1quIC6RvvlvcvNbn)
ACER (http://us.acer.com/acer/product_detail.do?slot21e=%01&slot30e_presel=%01&slot44e_presel=%01&slot11e=%01&slot42e=%01&slot36e=%01&slot32e=%01&slot45e_presel=%01&slot34e_presel=%01&slot4e_presel=%01&slot6e_presel=%01&slot42e_presel=%01&slot22e=%01&slot49e_presel=%01&slot32e_presel=%01&slot22e_presel=%01&link=oln108e.redirect&slot20e_presel=%01&slot37e_presel=%01&slot34e=%01&slot38e=%01&slot44e=%01&slot40e_presel=%01&slot1e_presel=%01&slot1e=%01&slot10e_presel=%01&slot36e_presel=%01&slot20e=%01&slot8e_presel=%01&slot14e=%01&slot47e_presel=%01&slot11e_presel=%01&slot33e=%01&slot2e_presel=%01&slot43e=%01&slot37e=%01&CRC=314501644)
IBM (http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=2576396&storeId=1&catalogId=-840&langId=-1)

no, i really couldn't.
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: svx on August 09, 2010, 11:50:26 PM
I... buy my stuff on ebay. Usually.

Speaking of which...

watchtower is my computer, an AMD 64 X2 dual core 5400+ with an Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wifi motherboard, nVidia GTS 250, and... some RAM. Random RAM. And, this:

02:07.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems 56k WinModem (rev 01)
   Subsystem: Agere Systems LT WinModem 56k Data+Fax+Voice+Dsvd
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
   Memory at fdfff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
   I/O ports at cc00
   I/O ports at c800 [size=256]
   Capabilities: [f8] Power Management version 2
   Kernel driver in use: martian
   Kernel modules: martian_dev

I live... with trees. And fields. I'd often be seen wielding my AR-15 with two clips duct-taped together, a can of beer in my hand, and either lounging atop a lawn chair or my Ninja ZX-750. With my AR-15. Plinking things off as I ride. If people were around. That's why I need a modem.

And that modem sucks.

I have a pile of modems here beside me:

An Ambient AMI-7019F/2019C (according to the top left corner),
A Smartlink SL-1800 (according to the chip),
An Intel 537EP,
And a (Rockwell? Guessing...) RS56G.

I spent lots of time researching these a while ago. And I'm disappointed. I used to use the Intel 537EP years ago. And now I find that Intel doesn't offer generic Linux drivers anymore; I found the latest ones, and messed with them until they compiled. But then I found that they use a 32-bit close-sourced object and just wrap around it. And then the Smartlink -- it would use the slamr driver from the pretty common slmodem Linux drivers, but... that... also does not support 64-bit. And the same for everything else. None of these modems have decent drivers. And I'm not making them.

So I've ordered a US Robotics USR5610B for $15 from ebay.

If it doesn't work, I'll unload my AR-15 on it. And then drive over it on the Ninja. And then cry. I'll cry.

Maybe I should use Windows. Windows-tans are... cute...
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Red-Machine on August 10, 2010, 04:19:02 AM
Why do you still use modems?  Do you have direct cable connections to things or something?
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Chocofreak13 on August 11, 2010, 04:12:56 PM
oh, modems, i lawl'd. i actually miss the dial-up sound. it's nostalgic.

and svx, it depends on your preference. if you like linux, use linux. if you think you'd like windows better, then use that.

maybe you should practice with wine or ubuntu first. xD
other than that, XP is stable, so i recommend that. :3
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Red-Machine on August 11, 2010, 04:59:20 PM
XP is actually pretty flawed to be honest.  Like it's habit of copying everything from your video card's RAM into main RAM; so if you have a modern graphics card (128MB plus) you lose a LOT of system RAM.  I once knew someone who had an XP machine with 1GB of RAM and a 640MB graphics card.  1GB minus 640MB from graphics card, minus 200MB or so for the OS & additional programs and say 50MB for the device drivers.  That left him with less than 128MB for gaming.  Stupid, huh?
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: svx on August 12, 2010, 07:53:49 PM
I've installed Windows 7 on some computers lately...  Ehh. It's pretty nice. I guess.

It's weird to me. But the interface is pretty. And I haven't seen it crash yet. I think the only thing that irks me about Windows these days is that Microsoft hates C so much that they refuse to add C99 compatibility to their compiler, even with C1X becoming the new standard soon.  Microsoft seems to love C++... But... I hate C++.  I like C and assembly.

And... Windows is tough to program for. Its web of libraries is like a programming language unto itself.  I like the simplicity and standardization of Linux and all of the obligatory components, but it's a pain that the hardware manufacturers don't take it too seriously.

Ehh.  As for the modem?  It's for... the... internet. Uhnm. Yeah. Out here in the fields, there's no such thing as DSL or cable. Satellite internet all runs through Wildblue and has that lame Fair Access Policy (wikipedia it; it's stupid!) that throttles the speed down to 3kbps permanently for the remainder of a month or two months after you download more than a gigabyte or so, and it's not worth the $80/mo they charge...

I'm waiting for this lightning bolt US Robotics modem to come. So bad. I'll edit some pictures. I mean, I'll post some pictures. Of how cool it is. When it gets here. Period.

Spilled my beer. Too excited.
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Chocofreak13 on August 16, 2010, 06:52:10 PM
poor dear. drink it out of the floor.

programmers seem to prefer linux it seems. for just a basic user, XP is queen. ^^
not half bad for art, too, however i'm hooked on win. 7 after trying it (that doesn't mean i'm going to abandon any of the older OSes. i'm still going to use XP, if the DRIVE WOULD FUKKING FORMAT----)
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: svx on August 17, 2010, 11:29:02 PM
Ehhh...

Windows 7 is... pretty nice. The more I play with it, the more I like it. But it's weird because... it... is... weird. Yeah...

Ermm... Ehm.  Why won't it format?

Tried seeing if you can read or write a partition table to it in DOS? Or Linux? Or something? Something you boot from a USB drive or a, um. What are they called? Floppy? CD? Whatever those are.

I work with a lot of hard drives. I'm... good... at... data recovery. And drinking. But I digress. Aozora Very Good Days is the best song Stereopony ever did. If you like J-Pop. Anyway, erm. Hmm...

I've had a lot of weird problems with Windows not wanting to format things properly whenever I put Windows on computers. I've learned that when Windows thinks a hard drive is bad, it's... wrong. Usually. Sometimes. Ehh. There're lots of programs out there to fill the #@*%&er with zeroes; if you can write a partition table to it, I recommend trying that to see if it's really bad...

Or...

It... could... be... a... bad hard drive? I guess. I dunno. What was I doing just now?
Title: computers don't really inspire confidence anymore.....
Post by: Chocofreak13 on August 18, 2010, 01:07:57 PM
the hard drive isn't bad; if anything, the motherboard is. i try to load from cd and it decides to be a sped and not write cause it says something like "insert proper boot media or reboot and select proper boot media"

when i insert a known good cd. it's weird, cause i just wrote to the drive a few months ago and everything was fine.

the computer boots, it just doesn't reformat. and like i said, i tried to write to the blank drive (which nanami sees as storage space, so it's also good) and it still refuses to write.

at any rate, i've sent speedy to the repair shop so i'll just have to sit and wait to see how she turns out. she'll probably become my main computer.