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[Darknight_88]

If we're talking about an actual Eva VS Gundam fight. the only Gundam Large enough to battle an Eva is the Devil Gundam in the G series(which is ironic since evas fight angels). Looking at the 15-19 meter tall gundams fighting a 40 meter tall eva its unlikely that any gundam could win.

The eva would just probably eat the gundam.

Smaller would be best IMO...
Gundams already have little to no chance. Making it a larger target doesn't help.

and then, if you take into account...

berserk mode

...yeah, the Gundam is pretty much screwed.
Best option  for the Gundam would be  to run into space and nuke it from orbit. Several times. It's the only way to be sure >_>

or S2 engin

GOD mode Hax, anyone?

...

Still, If I had to put a "conventional" mecha into a fight against an EVA, my bet still goes for an Armor Slave equipped with the lambda driver, and an ace pilot. I think it's the only "real" mecha that can really have a real (but slight) chance of defeating an EVA

[CaptBrenden]

once again, nukes may not do it think of the blasts the evas took on a regular basis!  the left craters a nuke would be proud of. only the angels were able to hurt them because AT Fields can be used to nulify AT fields, nothing else.  The eva wins, hands down. I love armor slaces but i still dont think they have a chance either...

[Darknight_88]

once again, nukes may not do it think of the blasts the evas took on a regular basis!  the left craters a nuke would be proud of. only the angels were able to hurt them because AT Fields can be used to nulify AT fields, nothing else.  The eva wins, hands down. I love armor slaces but i still dont think they have a chance either...

oh well...If you're not using an EVA-00...then I counterattack with a Dirac Sea attack!
try to get out of there without running out of life support systems and a berserking EVA


Don't remember how the AT field worked exactly (what generated it), but I guess the Lambda Driver (with an expert pilot) could do the job if the AS  ambushes the EVA: get a good shot to the pilot plug, using the LD to pierce through the AT field, and the EVA is dead.

[CaptBrenden]

watch the series again  the only time ANYTHING peiced the AT field without nulifying it first was when they used all of japans power to fire 2 sniper rounds out of a high power partical beam cannon.  I dont recall anything of that magnitude used in FMP.  

Thats why the hundreds of defence systems and even N2 mines (nukes) failed to do much of anything to angles or evas other then give them a sunburn.

[Tsubashi]

The Absolute Terror field (AT field) is the physical and psychological barriers which maintains the separation of intelligent life. It is, in theory, what keeps others outside of ones conscious. There are very few things that can pierce an AT field (The Lance of Longinus and highly focused particle beams). The EVAs generate them by melding the consciousness of former pilots into the cloned shell (aka Yui, and Asuka's mother)

[CaptBrenden]

couldnt have said it better myself *claps*  Tsubashi is wise.

[Darknight_88]

Oh well, then I claim H4x3d game

. I dont recall anything of that magnitude used in FMP.

actually, It was said in the series that the lambda driver would render nuclear weapons useless, they'd be like toys.

So I guess It could achieve at least the same  power as a particle beam cannon

[CaptBrenden]

quite the vage description of its use and power no?  come back when u haz at feeld plz tnx

[Tsubashi]

Ahem... A positron rifle, specifically. Also, rendering nuclear weapons useless is, at this level, not very impressive. The EVAs can take a blast from an N-2 mine (Equal to many nukes) even without the AT field, albeit heavily damaged.

I think you are right in calling it a H4x3d game, since there really is no way to win

[CaptBrenden]

unless you are an angel, or another  eva, or worse, a flight of them.  

then again, you could always take them out from the inside, take out the command structures...

[Darknight_88]

quite the vage description of its use and power no?  come back when u haz at feeld plz tnx

actually, the same could be said about the AT field. The only description is that it can only be pierced by 3 things: another AT field, lance of longinus and very concentrated positron beam.
Also, I think 288 (don't remember the number) N2's would do the job too. (when EVA-01 was trapped inside the dirac-sea-angel (necessary to destroy the AT field or the dirac sea?).


Lambda Driver? it's generated by the pilot "imagination" (kinda H4X too). So it does what the owner wants to do. Wanna concentrate HUGE ammounts of energy into a concentrated beam to pierce through X thing? done, but to do that you just have to concentrate all your mind into it. Where does  the energy necessary to do that comes from? nobody knows, It's also a HAX. So in the end, it kinda depends on the pilot ability and state of mind.


There are no "numbers" on the strenght of each kind of field, so it's not easy to come back with something else than a "description of its use and power"

so, tl:dr: I FIGHT YOUR GOD MODE HAX WITH AN UNLIMITED AMMO HAX

The EVAs can take a blast from an N-2 mine (Equal to many nukes)

actually, N-2 mines are not that powerful >_>. More on the level of a tactical nuke.
Something I have always wondered: If a N-2 can damage an EVA...why not strike several times the crippled EVA with more nukes? If it damaged it, it means some of that energy it could get through the AT field. Therefore, striking several times would destroy the plug at some time.
>_>

I think you are right in calling it a H4x3d game

indeed >_<

[CaptBrenden]

oh yeah well *dodge* hah!

[Darknight_88]

oh yeah well *dodge* hah!

oh yeah well
*IMMA CHARGIN MY MIND BEAM!!1*
*homing mode*

[CaptBrenden]

*juke*  

oh yeah, well i can kill a yak from 200 yards, with MIND BULLETS!

[Darknight_88]

*SEVERAL MIND BULLETS  in a MIND BEAM with HOMING MODE almost beyond visual range*

superior HAX, mind ya