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Started by panda, September 17, 2005, 04:24:10 PM

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IanDanKilmaster

No, that's not it, it's the file size creep that has plagued Bethesda games since Morrowind.

It wasn't much of a problem in Morrowind (not unless you played for a long, long, long, long time and were a serious klepto), but became more and more of an issue in subsequent Gamebryo-based Bethesda games (Oblivion, FO3, and New Vegas).  Before Skyrim, the problem was at its worst in New Vegas, when long-time players and players who got the add-ons started noticing severe framerate and freezing issues.  In those earlier cases, it was never really dealt with because a majority of players never even encountered it.  Now, in Skyrim, the file size creep has become a full-blown file size JUMP, especially if you own and use property and explore often.  It's really a problem on every platform, but it's most noticeable on the PS3, where it causes framerate and crashing issues rather quickly (because the PS3 has half the usable RAM the 360 does, and PCs are nigh immune to RAM issues thanks to upgrading).

The Choice of a New Generation.

Nichi

I hope I don't run into that when playing Fallout 3 or Oblivion, although I'm on a PC

Maybe there's a fan-made mod to fix that, if it becomes an issue...

IanDanKilmaster

With the PC it's hardly an issue, any problem it causes for you can likely be fixed with a fan mod or using the console.

Granted, it'd be great if Bethesda finally narrowed down what in the Gamebryo/Creation engine causes this and fixed it, that way there would be no need for little bandages here and there.  As it stands now, the best guess of most Skyrim players is that it has to do with how often cells respawn in-game.  Unlike Morrowind or even Oblivion before it, things take forever to despawn in Skyrim.  Dead bodies and random items left in the world stay there for several in-game days, as opposed to the 3-day spawn limit in Oblivion.  It sounds great on paper, but when you consider all of the other things the game has to keep up with (especially if you're one of the players who picked up "interior decorating" as an unmarked skill), it adds up... and up... and up.

Anyway, as an Oblivion and Fallout 3 player, especially on the PC, you're unlikely to really be weighed-down by any of these issues.  Even if you do, there are likely fan-made solutions available to you (for example, Skyrim players on the PC have already figured out how to address the file size/respawn issue from the console).  In fact, the only thing I think you'll even notice are the ash/goo piles in FO3 if you ever use energy weapons (most ash/goo piles refuse to despawn, without a little help from the console, of course).

The Choice of a New Generation.

Nichi

All right, I'll keep that in mind.

Which, I'm now reinstalling my Steam games on 2k; starting with Portal 2

IanDanKilmaster

Cool, I'm actually surprised there are new games that'll run on that great old OS.  2k-tan was always good for gaming ^^.

The Choice of a New Generation.

Nichi

#14210
2k-tan the Desktop actually doesn't run Windows 2000 natively. She runs Windows 7 and Fedora 16 natively, with Windows 2000 setup in Virtualbox (Along with NT 4.0, XP, and Vista)

The name had a double meaning, really; not just of one of my favorite OS-tans, but also the fact it cost just a little under $2,000 to build

IanDanKilmaster

I was curious about that, I considered that it was most likely a name, but for some reason, I immediately jumped to another conclusion xD.

Still, I like the double significance, that's pretty cool.

The Choice of a New Generation.

CaptBrenden

Honestly ive got some 300 hours in skytim, and the only glitches ive run into is entering my house and my furniture dissapears, and one glitch in a quest where this guy keeps trying to "teach me a lesson" after the quest is done and it breaks the game if i try to fight him, or run. i have to avoid him completely, but nothing game breaking yet.
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Bella

*walks into giant wall of gaming talk*

*wonders how she ended up in the Gaming thread*

*realizes this is /Topicless*

AW FUCK.

Nichi

@Bella: Sorry about that ^_^;;;

Well, to change subjects, I'm working on that Christmas story I had talked about writing. I expect to have it ready soon enough to post on my dA and in Scrap Paper next weekend ^_^

IanDanKilmaster

@Cap'n:
Nothing truly game-breaking on my end yet, either, but as my file size gets larger, I find the length of time before the game stutters or freezes gets shorter and shorter.  In other words, it's only a matter of time before it happens to me.  It's unlikely you'll notice anything Cap'n, since you're playing on 360, and no one playing on there has had any serious framerate issues yet.  As I mentioned earlier, it's a problem most prominent on the PS3, due to the lower RAM (256MB-PS3 vs 512MB-360).

That all aside, I haven't taken the time to properly welcome you back.  Great to see you posting again, and I'm happy to read that you're doing well.  The forum is starting to feel more like when I first joined xD.

@Bella:
C'mon, it's not like Topicless hasn't been overrun with other topics before.  I mean, there have been at least one or two days where I had to tunnel through a couple pages worth of pony talk before finding an actual discussion xD.

The Choice of a New Generation.

Bella

Three things:

1) So, there's this new show on TLC (aka That Channel About Freaks and Normal People who are Treated Like Freaks) called "Geek Love". As a geek who's in love with and dating another geek, I AM OFFEND. 'W'

2) I'm drinking eggnog that tastes like LIQUEFIED SUGAR COOKIES. Not sure if I want.

3) My avatar is now Derpy Hooves cosplaying as Thom Yorke.

Nichi

@Bella, on that show on TLC: *facedesk* *facedesk* *facedesk*

That's really all I can manage to say on that.

CaptBrenden

Quote from: Bella on December 18, 2011, 07:01:29 PM
*walks into giant wall of gaming talk*

*wonders how she ended up in the Gaming thread*

*realizes this is /Topicless*

AW FUCK.

Such language :p

Topicless thread isnt really topicless. it would be bloody confusing if it was. There are topics, but your not limited to what you want to talk about. The thread is named as thus because "The thread you talk in when there is no thread to talk about what you want to talk about but doesnt warrant its own thread thread" was too long.
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Red-Machine

So guise.  Kim Jong-Il is dead.
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